The Nintendo Discussion Thread

[ThirdMarioBro]

This is some of the sickest sh*t I've ever seen.

Link: http://www.cad-comic.com/ 2nd article on the home page atm..

From GamingHorizon.com:

"Earlier this month, gamer named Mitchell S. with the online screenname "Kuja105" who posts on a few online videogame forums (including GameFaqs.com and MetalGearSolid.org) committed suicide. On January 2 he posted a message in both forums detailing his intent to end his own life, citing overwhelming complications with school and finances.


A very brief period of initial disbelief was followed by a barrage of replies from fellow forum members pleading that he not take his life, trying to talk him out of it.

For days, no word was heard from Mitchell. Fearing the worst, members and administration from metalgearsolid.org began searching for contact information, spending hours on the phone trying to get in touch with him. Finally on January 4, Ryan K., an administrator at metalgearsolid.org, got him on the phone and spent hours desperately trying to talk him out of it.

Sadly, Mitchell soon ended his own life by consuming antifreeze and painkillers.

Later, members from the site contacted Mitchell's family to find out the grave news. They reported it to their online community, and posted a tribute to their passed friend on the front page of metalgearsolid.org." Full Report Here.

Mr. Jack Thompson then sent in the following letter regarding the situation to MetalGearSolid.org, one of the forums frequented by Mitchell, where he was known well:

"Your "gamer friend" will find peace through the Lord, Jesus Christ, but sadly it's too late for that.

There is a void in every heart. You can fill it up with the things of God, or the things not of God. This unfortunate soul chose to fill it up with combat games. The playing of these video games is masturbatory activity, meaning senseless self-stimulation. If you gamers could use a dictionary you would know that that term is not necessarily a sexual one.

The real tragedy here extends beyond the life and death of this one fellow. There are literally millions of young people and young adults whose despair is deepend by turning to the things of this world and then finding them meaningless.

All of you gamers need to put down the controllers and get a life. The utter inanity of the vast majority of postings here shows how vapid "gaming" really is.

You are one of the cheerleaders for this wasting of time and the wasting of lives. Do you feel any remorse for having contributed to this "culture of death?" Of course not. Hey, let's all play MORE games, and ignore all the really productive things to do with our lives.

Let's pretend to be shocked that a gamer might descend into deeper depression, as his gamer "buds," knowing he was killing himself, couldn't figure out how to call 911 themselves for him. That would have involved leaving their computers I guess.

Sad. Sad for all of you."

That man is the lowest piece of sh*t on this earth. Somebody needs to read that letter on national TV, but of course, nobody will ever get the chance because they flock to his bullsh1t.

Sick bastard. Somebody really needs to deal with that piece of sh1t. Dammit.

[Barkworm]

There are many things I'd like to say about this guy but that would just put me down on his level...

[Anarky]

Why thank you, Mr. Thompson, I think those were the most insensitive words I've ever read. But then again, you're on your holy crusade against electric devices (Hey, you need something to fight against when videogames are gone... what about my toaster? I always had the impression that it was possessed and that I spend too much time with it) and that justifies everything.

What an asshole...

[Kid Icarus]

He really hasn't looked around at gaming too much lately, has he?

I fail to see how Animal Crossing, Brain Training, Nintendogs, or Tetris have *anything* to do with death... but hey, that's just me. I suppose in Tetris you have to 'kill' the blocks, and in AC plants and trees die...

OMG ANIMAL CROSSING IS TEH EVIL DEATH GAME!

:roll:

Really, if Mr. Thompson would take a couple of seconds to look around... wait. He can't. His head's implated in his anus.

If us gamers are so violent, why is he *trying* to piss us all off? Maybe HE is the suicidal one...

[Dr. Doom]

i'm STILL getting ****ing firewall problems.

The Airport's goin down. I did NOT go through all that hell for nothing.

I always have firewall problems with various things, but like I said I connected almost immediately after I took it outta the box.

EDIT: I seem to ahve developed a bad habit of not notcing that there's an extra page worth of posts. I hadn't even read that Jack Thompson bit when I made this post. It's pretty horrible.

[Mecha Cow]

...Wow. Is Jack really this desperate for attention? The man really has no respect for anything. No wait, he is not a man, my bad.

What a pathetic little person. He's looking for trouble, and he deserves whatever he gets now.

I could continue this rant, but I really can't find the words.

Well, maybe just this.

F*ck you, Jack Thompson.

[JameO]

That is beyond ****ed up, he is beyond unreal. I second that. **** YOU JACK THOMPSON.

And if he drank antrifreeze and overdosed, I doubt a call across the country for 911 would have done much, he was a goner. Ridiculous Thompson up to his dirty work.

[XERO]

That's truly the worst crap I ever read.

Damn you, Jackass Thompson. A person just offed himself and all you care about is bitching about videogames.

I can't believe this.

How about the fact that videogames saved BILLIONS of lives alone?

[Peanut]

The guy is a f*cking prick. Plain and simple. He'll rot in Hell.

[Dinny]

Your "gamer friend" will find peace through the Lord, Jesus Christ, but sadly it's too late for that.

OK that sentence completely contradicts itself, he says that he will find peace but then says he won't

There is a void in every heart. You can fill it up with the things of God, or the things not of God. This unfortunate soul chose to fill it up with combat games.

That is possibly the stupidest sentence I have ever heard, real PHD material right there. His dictionary must contain 6 words, all of which have 4 letters.

deepend

That is not how you spell deepened, you jackass.

All of you gamers need to put down the controllers and get a life.

This coming from a man who spends all his time searching video game forums for people he can insult, because no one in their right mind will hire him anymore.

"culture of death"

:roll:

If it were anyone else, I would have thought those comments were made up, but when it's him, I believe it.

May that Mitchell rest in peace.

[Kid Icarus]

In other news, Gwgtrunks has upgraded his machine in two areas!

Yes folks. I had 128MB of memory... now I'm at 256.

I was running an NVidia Vanta on here, now I've got an ATI Radeon 9250 Sapphire (128MBDDR, 64-bit).

So, basicaly, I doubled the stats on my computer.

How is this relevant to Nintendo, you're asking...

Revolution is supposedly only 2-3 times as powerful as the GCN. I'm in awe at how much better my computer's running now. Programs pop to life, the graphics look clean and crisp and update quicker, I can run more stuff at once... So I say the rev'll be plenty powerful.

[CookSux]

What if the letter was fake?

[Dr. Doom]

I guess that wouldn't suprise me too terribly....but at what point would Thompson hear about it and say something?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Booth Babes Banned: E3 2006

January 23, 2006

by: Chris Playo

It appears that the popular "Booth Babes" of E3 will no longer be present.
An exhibitor for the forthcoming Electronics Entertainment Expo has allegedly leaked a portion of the provided handbook for the convention, in which it is revealed that the widely popular "Booth Babes" of the convention will be no more. The news of the censorship comes as a shock to many in the industry, as the "Booth Babes", women promoting a product for a given company, have consistently been held in high regard by members of the gaming industry.

The handbook cites, "Material, including live models, conduct that is sexually explicit and/or sexually provocative, including but not limited to nudity, partial nudity and bathing suit bottoms, are prohibited on the Show floor, all common areas, and at any access points to the Show. ESA, in its sole discretion, will determine whether material is acceptable.".

Judging by the segments from the document, it also appears that the reach of the censorship may also into the realm of games themselves. While it is not confirmed, it appears likely that games featuring adult only, or games including partial nudity will be brought into question by the change in convention legislation. It is however important to note that the amended regulations of the convention do not entirely limit the popular concept of "Booth Babes". Companies such as Nintendo have traditionally gone with a more conservative approach and have been praised for their actions. It is highly likely that companies adopt a similar approach for the forthcoming exhibition.

Okay, when this broke elsewhere, I acted in a professional manner in my responses. Here, I'll just say this.

SON OF A BITCH


Meh, I always thought the companies were taking advantage of the women anyways, which isn't right. Still, it was nice scenery nonetheless. Meh, dosen't matter in the long run I guess. Perhaps G4 will actually be forced to take footage of actual games rather than the booth babes.

[Demented Utrom]

Censorship, what the hell.I see, the wackos are finally getting their way.Man this Jack Thompson, guy is a idiot.Has this guy heard, of the ESRB rating system probably not.

I'm sick, of people attacking video games it's form of entertainment like movies.For one I have been, playing video games for 16 years.

The E3 Booth Babes, are out of a job. Well somebody, else needs to promote the games now At E3.

[Cerpin Taxt]

Okay, when this broke elsewhere, I acted in a professional manner in my responses. Here, I'll just say this.

SON OF A BITCH


Meh, I always thought the companies were taking advantage of the women anyways, which isn't right. Still, it was nice scenery nonetheless. Meh, dosen't matter in the long run I guess. Perhaps G4 will actually be forced to take footage of actual games rather than the booth babes.

****! And I actually got passes for this year!

[Peanut]

Censorship, what the hell.I see, the wackos are finally getting their way.Man this Jack Thompson, guy is a idiot.Has this guy heard, of the ESRB rating system probably not.

I'm sick, of people attacking video games it's form of entertainment like movies.For one I have been, playing video games for 16 years.

The E3 Booth Babes, are out of a job. Well somebody, else needs to promote the games now At E3.

WHY DO YOU USE SO MANY F*CKING COMMAS!!?!?!?!

[ThirdMarioBro]

It's LA. I doubt those models have a hard time finding work.

[Peanut]

I honestly don't think this is exactly bad. I mean...aren't we trying to get our hobby recognized as a respectable market, like movies? A bunch of strippers running around in their underwear isn't really going to do much to benfit that cause. Sure, it's nice to see a hot girl dressed in leather and acting like she knows something about videogames, but it doesn't exactly make the videogame industry look respectable. Aren't we trying to pull away from the "horny nerd without a life" stereotype? Just my thoughts on it.

BTW, I <3 boobs.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I honestly don't think this is exactly bad. I mean...aren't we trying to get our hobby recognized as a respectable market, like movies? A bunch of strippers running around in their underwear isn't really going to do much to benfit that cause. Sure, it's nice to see a hot girl dressed in leather and acting like she knows something about videogames, but it doesn't exactly make the videogame industry look respectable. Aren't we trying to pull away from the "horny nerd without a life" stereotype? Just my thoughts on it.

BTW, I <3 boobs.

Very good point good sir.

[Kid Icarus]

G4, take footage of games? BAHAHAHA! Like that'll happen. Do they even actually talk about games anymore? I stopped watching a while back.

The booth babes really were retarded in concept though. Let the games sell by their own merit, not because you have some 80 pound barbie doll's cleavge in your face for a good review.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Ugh, those skelaton thin women make me sick anyways.

[Kid Icarus]

So, i'm some more news...

Suda 51's in support of the Revolution. His studio's working on a game as we speak.

Nintendo's hit 3 million people on their WFC service world wide. In comparison, it took Xbox Live 18 months to reach one million.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/diec-2005/diec-how-shiggy-entertains-himself-140600.php

WTF? This is interesting stuff seeing as Mario and DK were born on spiral notebook paper.

[Kid Icarus]

A penguin game? That'd be a big WTF right there. Seriously.

Although, I can think of a few ideas that would work well in a game...

Perhaps you have a penguin, lost (a la Super Mario 64), and you have to construct a series of slides, hills, slopes, and what ever other crazy ideas a dev team would toss out there to get him to the end of the level.

I could see it working like a real-time Tony Hawk level editor. This would be great on Revolution, because you could quickly select the parts you want, and where to place them, in actual 3D movements.

As far as modes go: 1) Action mode. Penguin moves faster through the levels as you construct them. As the game goes on, the challenge of designing the level goes up as does the over all pace. 2) Puzzle mode. Penguin sits at the start of the level until you have it finished. Using diffrent peices, in limited numbers, you have to make a path from A to B. 3) battle: Player 1 puts the peices in the level, Player 2 controlls a polar bear that tries to destory the parts you lay down. Each part would have a 'damage' meter, and the polar bear would be able to preform some sort of leveling up function, possibly through the use of items, to help him win. This could also be turned into a single player mode, destory the one block in the puzzle to stop the penguin, make multiple paths for the penguin to take so it wont' turn into 'blow up the block the penguin's facing'.

I could actually see that being pretty damn fun. Gimme some time to flesh it out. lol.

[Mecha Cow]

Maybe he was just doodling. :P

But hey, they did say Shigsy was creating a new franchise for Revolution, didn't they...?

[愛]

Yeah, he did. I wonder what it is...

[ThirdMarioBro]

That's funny. Shiggy is at a buisness lecture. Kojima is taking notes behind him and Shiggy is drawing in class then gets caught by the press and goes back to taking notes. :lol:


By the way, Revolution Advanced should be launching tonight or tomorrow. I was looking over the final little details an hour ago to make sure all was ready and well.

[Peanut]

A penguin as a hero would actually be awesome. I'm sure Shiggy could make an awesome action/platformer out of it. I WANT A PENGUIN GAME!

[Barkworm]

Penguins RULE!!!

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://revolution.advancedmn.com/

Behold Revolution Advance.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://ds.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=3230

PSP just got fu*ked with a ruber hose. Behold the Nintendo DS Lite.

I call it the iDS.

It's Revolution Pearl White.

I have to buy one now.

Goddamn you NIntendo :lol:

[Barkworm]

I think it's... ugly. :|

[GK Punk]

Looks the same as the old one to me.

My girlfriend JUST bought a DS like last month too.(And in Pink at that!)

Has anyone had any problems with a GBA SP (With backlite) Whiping out games? I had a defective GBA and it destroyed four of my games.

I plan on calling nintendo to see what they can do, but I was just wondering if anyone has heard of anything like this before.

[Mecha Cow]

So that thing actually is real? Just like a week ago they said there weren't going to be any redesigns in the near future. What the f*ck Nintendo?

I think the thing is pretty ugly and looks like it won't play too well either, but I'll probably end up buying it around the time the new Pokemon comes out (So me and my brother each have a DS for linking).

Still, wtf?

[Kid Icarus]

That's how they work, though. Always have.

If someone hits on a true rumor, they either half ass deny it or say they don't comment on rumors. Then a few weeks later, they confirm the rumor.

I like the redesign. I'll pry be picking one up eventually, if only because the paint on my DS is wearing off. This looks like it's using the Apple "clear plastic with paint on the inside" trick, too, which is just incredibly sexy.

It also looks like Nintendo's booted the 'Nintendo grey' away as their primary color... guess we're getting glossy white as it's replacement.

Oh, and Mecha, when the new Pokemon comes out, I'll be more then happy to pwn you. And trade. God I love this wifi stuff.

[CookSux]

damn i, among with nearly 10 of my friends just bought our dses last month.

[Barkworm]

If someone hits on a true rumor, they either half ass deny it or say they don't comment on rumors.
Like the rumour about "Twilight Princess" having optional Revolution controls? ;)

[Dr. Doom]

Mother bastard.

I just bought my DS too.

[ThirdMarioBro]

A lot of people seem to be saying that.

Gk, I've never heard of an SP wiping out a gae before. Do you mean it's killing your save data, or do you mean it's actually wiping the entire game out?


Oh, and this new DS seems to use the Game Boy Micro's D-Pad style as well as it's face buttons. I'm more of a fan of the clicky style buttons myself, but this will be good for fighters (if any ever get ported that is). Either way, the thing is Ipod sexy.

[Peanut]

It looks alright. I'm not a fan of the iPod style. I really don't understand how people think an iPod is sexy. It looks like a white box.

[Kid Icarus]

Peanut: it's 'cause they're shiny. People are generally stupid, so anything shiny looks good.

I like the iPod Mini's... they were sexy. Iodized metal is hawt.

Like the rumour about "Twilight Princess" having optional Revolution controls? ;)
See, that they out right denied eventually. If it's true, they do a sort of "there are no plans to announce anything regarding X at this time, but we're always blah blah blah".

And, seriously, if that's the reason they delayed the game... i'm going to be beyond livid. Make a new Zelda for Revoltuion, and give me a reason to own a Gamecube *now*.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Bah, when it come to rumour denials and confirmations, there really is no way in hell to tell weither Nintendo is full of sh*t of legit. They're too damned sneaky.

I'll be waiting to see if this new DS has a headphone jack (you never know). Once I'm sure of that, I'll preorder it. We probobly won't see it until mid-Summer.

[Barkworm]

Like the rumour about "Twilight Princess" having optional Revolution controls? ;)
See, that they out right denied eventually. If it's true, they do a sort of "there are no plans to announce anything regarding X at this time, but we're always blah blah blah".

This is the link to the official statement: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=62348

"The article in the January edition of NGC Magazine is pure speculation.
Nintendo have made no new announcements regarding The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. We can however confirm that the game is still in development and that it will launch on Nintendo GameCube in 2006."

If you ask me, that's a very, VERY halfassed denial. I for one would be very happy to play it on the Cube and then play it again for the Revo. With new cool features.:D

[Kid Icarus]

i do remember another interview where they simply stated that the article was false, but that might be my brain trying to trick me again.


now where are those damn qtips?

and like i said before... i'm gonna be pissed if that turns out to be the main reason they delayed the game. very pissed.

yes, they need the 'epic' game for revolution to prove existing game design concepts still work on the system... but the gamecube now has had very VERY little to offer people for the last few months, and really nothing note worthy until Zelda comes out. yes, there are some cool games, but they're all over shadowed by Zelda. as evidance to this, the only GCN games i've bought in the last few months are years old games (that i should have owned before anyway), and a collection of mostly 10+ year old games.

looking at this, and the N64's last year of jack ****, why would anyone trust nintendo to deliver on the revolution towards the end? hell, xbox is STILL getting games and it's a dead machine. PS1 continued to get new games olmost a full year into PS2's life span.

[Mecha Cow]

It would only make the Revolution controller look like a total gimmick if used in a game that it obviously wasn't designed for. I doubt Nintendo would do that.

Unless Nintendo says otherwise, I'm just going to assume the article was false.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Let me just say this. If they announce this sh*t at E3, I'm boo-ing their ass off.

[Kid Icarus]

I'm sure you guys have seen the job posting from Midway for a level layout designer for an upcomming FPS for the PS3, 360, and Revo that uses the Unreal 3 engine.

What do you guys think? On one hand, I'm glad the console is powerful enough to run the Unreal engine, but on the other hand... I don't want to see a bazillion soulless FPS games. That and, next to Prime 3, I doubt many of them are going to sell incredibly well (unless, of course, people take onto the revolution controler. They FPS games are pry going to be the systems top seller. =\).

This also means that, despite specs, the Revolution's going to be one hefty piece of hardware. Optimization is key in a console... a processor made specificaly to compute AI, character movement, ect is going to work more efficently then just using brute force. Same thing with a graphics chip, and even memory. And the thing that set the Gamecube apart, a clean mobo.

Damn. We really do need some more news to talk about. :lol:.

[Barkworm]

Let me just say this. If they announce this sh*t at E3, I'm boo-ing their ass off.
Oh please. I know how you roll. I can already see you kissing their feet for it. ;)
Honestly, I don't see what the problem is. We would be able to play it on the Cube AND get some new features out of the game as soon as the Revo is released. I think that's a cool idea.
About the Unreal engine thing: I'm lowering my expectations about the graphics till I finally see them. I'm sure they'll look a hell of a lot better than the first wave of XBox 360 games though.

[ThirdMarioBro]

You're right. I'll wind up kissing their ass. :lol:

Anyway, sorry for my absense. Those fu*kers at Cox cut off my cable again. I'm mad as hell. We had to go pay in person (only two days late) and they refuse to turn it back on for a week. I'm fu*king pissed. Someone hijacked my AMN email account and this whole mess made me miss a Cyndi Lauper concert on VH1. I had been looking forward to that for weeks. Goddamn Cox. They earned their name again. :lol: ;)

I'm borrowing my Sister's modem (and having to use AOHell) so you won't see much of me until I get this sh*t fixed.

I want my Cyndi Lauper concert :cry:

[Kid Icarus]

The problem, Barkworm, is that I was supposed to have this game back in November of last year. The delay was fine, if they were just polishing and adding in levels.

But using an existing game to push the Revolution is crap. Nintendo can do better, and we all know it. Instead of shoehorning this Zelda in, how about they start a new one that's designed to take full use of the Revolution controlls?

It's also a problem because I have had next to nothing to play on Gamecube for MONTHS now. Months. Not just weeks, which is workable, but months. We were promised that we woulden't have a repeat of the N64's end with no support for the last year, and that's happening again.

The big underlying problem is that this hurts peoples trust in Nintendo, which damages their market share. Yes, I take all this **** too seriously, because honestly without Nintendo the game market is going to be extremely boring. Do you honestly think Sony or Microsoft would go balls to the wall and show a Revolution controller type chage? I sure as hell don't.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Do you honestly think Sony or Microsoft would go balls to the wall and show a Revolution controller type chage? I sure as hell don't.

True. They wouldn't, and haven't even in sight of competition.

[Kid Icarus]

see, i'm not talking about them making a revolution controller. sorry if my words wern't chosen very well ;).

what i'm talking about, is that i know they won't innovate. the best microsoft can do is put a track ball on the controller and up the graphics.

the best sony's doing is switching storage mediums, and over loading the system with processors.

i'm sorry, but as an end user i just don't see these things meaning anything to me. as a developer, even, i don't see much benefit.

adding new controll methods, free online play, easier development... these are all things i can see from both sides.

the developer gets more options to play with when figureing out their mechanics, and since the development cycle's shorter and cheaper, some of the crazy ideas will actually be made.

the end user gets a more intuitive and immersive gameplay experience. no more worrying how you're going to push the shoot, jump, and dash buttons at the same time... the camera should be extremely easy to work now... menus are going to be just as easy as on a computer.

Just imagine an RPG, classical Square Japanese style RPG, turn based, with an engrossing story line. Now imagine just laying back, pointing at the attack commands you want to do, who you want to hit, and just using the Z trigger to select it. Out side of battle, just walk around on screen by pointing.

That opens up the RPG market to anyone who can watch a movie. That, alone, is huge.

[Duke]

Just imagine an RPG, classical Square Japanese style RPG, turn based, with an engrossing story line. Now imagine just laying back, pointing at the attack commands you want to do, who you want to hit, and just using the Z trigger to select it. Out side of battle, just walk around on screen by pointing.

That opens up the RPG market to anyone who can watch a movie. That, alone, is huge.Honestly that sounds retarded to me. I don't want to play games simply by pointing and clicking. But i do think the revolution has huge potential, I just hope it doesn't end up like you just described.

[Wingnut]

I haven't been keeping up with the Revolution as much as I should, but I like what i've read and seen so far. Nintendo is simplifying things at the right time, from the simple controller to the library. When I look at the PS3 and 360 I see what I saw in late 90's arcade fighters, over-complicated and more expensive.

I like Nintendo's approach, still the spectre of the PS3 freaks me out, I get the fear that people will buy PS3 simply because "it's the PS3" And frankly im not impressed with the 360. Graphics can only impress me to a certain extent. Eventually graphics will be taken as far as they can go and consoles are going to have to stop using visuals as selling points and really start innovating, that's what Nintendo is doing.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Digital Cable is back on for the moment and the Cyndi Lauper concert is back on. Bye now :lol:

[ThirdMarioBro]

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/ParisHilton-2006SundanceFilmFestiva.jpg

Suddenly my DS feels all nasty.:dead:

[Barkworm]

I've seen this before and I think it's a goddamn disgrace.

[Dr. Doom]

Oh shut up, let her play Nintendogs and get over it.

[XERO]

Oh shut up, let her play Nintendogs and get over it.

Touche'.

Can you get a 'Game Over' in Nintendogs? :P

[Kid Icarus]

I hear that your dog runs away if you leave it alone for too long... guess that'd be as close to a game over as you're gonna get.

Now, can you get a game over in Animal Crosing, is the better question ;).

And besides, Paris is 'cool'. Cool people using your product over someone elses conceived 'cooler' product is ALWAYS a good thing.

Anyway, Nintendojo has a cool news report on their site ( http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1138666511 ) about an article a quadriplegic kid wrote, about how the Revolution controller will let him play videogames again.

Good job, Nintendo. Good ****in' job.

They just hit the disabled person market, pry without even trying to. Sure, they won't have access to every game, but the fact that most all of them (including RPG's, if my above idea is indeed how they'll work them) will be playable for these people could be huge.

[XERO]

Heh.

Make something for one thing, and it benefits another.:D

Nintendo rules.8)

[Peanut]

Honestly that sounds retarded to me. I don't want to play games simply by pointing and clicking. But i do think the revolution has huge potential, I just hope it doesn't end up like you just described.

I agree. That actually sounds REALLY stupid. RPG's are basically as far from a game as it gets. Make the system any more boring and people will fall asleep.

The Rev does have some great potential, though. JameO and I were discussing it on the bus to the mall the other day.

Imagine a First-Person game...but with a sword. Because the Rev controller detects left to right movement you can slash at enemies, environments, whatever, with your sword. That sounds all well and good, but the thing that makes it awesome is adding the DEPTH perception. Imagine besting an opponent in a sword fight and being able to keep the blade just an inch from his throat while he begs for his life. Then you get to actually PLUNGE your sword into it when you're tired of listening to him. You won't be just be pushing A for a finishing move, but actually performing the move! You're in a heated fight, making wild slashes with your sword to block your opponents moves. Suddenly he goes down and inward. You have to pull your controller away from the screen and make it point downwards to cover the low swing. Your swords clash and you quickly spin your controller upwards to throw his sword arm out of control. He comes back at you and swings downwards again, you fake low, pull your controller back towards you, so as to not connect with his down swinging sword, then you quickly go up and in to take him in the heart.

I don't know about you guys, but my head was f*cking exploding as we came up with all these different ideas, and I'm no game designer. Imagine what a master-mind like Shiggy could do!!!

[Kid Icarus]

Animal Crossing DS is just a form of pointing and clicking..

i'm not saying every RPG should be like that. It would sure as hell make menu navigation a hell of a lot faster though.

Or you could map item commands to movements. Need to do heal? Have the game record a movement that you can preform to get what ever to work, in a sense like Castlevania:DoS's seal system. Just you'd make them up (not everyone's going to make an H the same way, after all)

wait.

Street Figher. Now, bear with me, this is pretty far out there. But imagine, to do a Haduken actually *swinging* your arm through the D,DR,R movement (it'd be more like down, forward down, forward i guess). That could be interesting.

And of course they could also use the shell for standard controlls. But man... that'd be fun.

[Wingnut]

Street Figher. Now, bear with me, this is pretty far out there. But imagine, to do a Haduken actually *swinging* your arm through the D,DR,R movement (it'd be more like down, forward down, forward i guess). That could be interesting.

And of course they could also use the shell for standard controlls. But man... that'd be fun.
And it would be a workout :D

[XERO]

Heh, I remember when the Dragon Punch was like the hardest move ever to pull off back then. :lol:

Those were the days.

[Turtledude2k3]

when I picture how the revolution controller will work, I get worried. I mean it looks good on paper, but maybe the idea could be weird..

I will wait and see.

[XERO]

Everybody thought the GameCube controller was weird.

I guess it's adapting to it that makes it effective.

[Kid Icarus]

The Gamecube controller didn't trigger fans to randomly think up game ideas.

If it's doing this to us, imagine what it's doing to people who get *paid* to think up game ideas. Hell, just imagine what Miyamoto has planned for this thing.

*drool*

[Dr. Doom]

Yeah, I remember when the GC's controller was "unconventional". Everything's relative, I suppose. It's no doubt the controller I'm most used to at this point.

[Barkworm]

I never had problems with it. Sure, the D-Pad sucks and the shoulder triggers are kinda crappy too but it's comfortable and no controller is perfect anyway. Except the SNES pad.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Ahhh, you mean the SNES pad and the Saturn pad, right? ;)

Honestly, the Gamecube pad has served me well....except with puzzle games and Soul Calibur II. If only the D-Pad were a tad bigger.

You want the perfect controller? Add select under start, move A,B,X & Y back to the diamond positioning, then place a standard L & R button in front of the two triggers ala Xbox 360, scratch the Z Button entirely and keep the Wavebird's shape while blowing the D-Pad up to at least DS size. Bingo, perfect controller.

I wonder what the shell will come out like. I hoping for more originality than a Wavebird with an expansion slot.

[Kid Icarus]

list of changes to make:
Up the + pad size.
Add a Z2 (W?) button above the L trigger.
Lower the top ridge of the analog triggers, so you can actually use the Z buttons.
Add a select button, move start and select buttons closer to where your thumbs can hit them easily.
If they go back to a diamond layout, which has it's pros and cons (button mashing on the GCN controller is harder to do, and i've yet to have this cause a problem in a game... even in MMX, it's useable after some adjustments.), make it the 6 button N64 layout (but make the buttons the same size).
Make the C-stick's thumb space bigger, mirroring the analog stick.

[Dr. Doom]

I'm guessing the controller shell of the Revo will address a lot of these requests.

[ThirdMarioBro]

make it the 6 button N64 layout (but make the buttons the same size).
Make the C-stick's thumb space bigger, mirroring the analog stick.

SWEET! I hadn't thought of that. Then they would be able to fake both the N64's pad AND the Sega Saturn with a Gamecube quality analog stick. That would be fu*king awesome.

[Kid Icarus]

Not to mention that the N64 pad, in the shape of the Gamecube, could run those Classic Download titles like a pro. IMHO, they got everything but the analog stick right on the N64. Everything. The handles were FAR better the anything out there, all the buttons were easily reachable (unless you wanted to, for some ungodly reason, use the Z button with the + Pad).

But yeah. A and C down for the NES buttons. B, A, C left, and C down for the SNES and GCN. Hell, maybe even rename the C buttons to something else. VWX and Y? or just CDEF? I dunno. So long as they're there if they go with that design.

I'll put Photoshop on here, and make a mock up, this weekend.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, that's pretty much how I'd envision the controller. Excellent ideas Gwg.


I'd elaborte more, but I'm a depressed train wreck, my hands are tired, and I'm going to bed.

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?p=391357#post391357

[Kid Icarus]

hyrule.net has tons of footage from Twilight Princess.

In one, Link's attacking a cucoo, and it goes into the water. And SWIMS! You can see it's little cucoo legs paddling away...

In another one, Link wanders around with a lanter in a village. The lighting effects are beautiful... they put Luigis Mansion to shame. And the draw distance is insane for a game with that level of detail.

[Mecha Cow]

Most of it is just old footage though, but there are a couple of new scenes.

The village looks so nice, which makes it even harder to believe that those city screens we saw a few months back are from the final game.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I'm betting there are tons of people who had no idea the Gamecube was capable of this.

Weither it be at the last minute or not, they are proving that Nintendo had the most powerful and most well balanced machine.

[Peanut]

Weither it be at the last minute or not, they are proving that Nintendo had the most powerful and most well balanced machine.

It's bad Nintendo pretty much decided not to utilize it. "Let's just use our powerful console to make a handful of amazing AA titles, then nothing but Mario Parties and sports games! An even better idea? Let's make all those games use the EXACT SAME character models! Genius!"

[ThirdMarioBro]

Personally, I'm a fan of the character model consistancy. Except for the titles where they downgraded them (double dash comes to mind), they all look great and you don't have to deal with the constant image change every game. N64's models were dogsh*t and just got worse as time went on. This prevents that. I agree that they made a few AAA titles though, then jack sh*t. Pisses me off. We should have beaten Zelda by now and be looking forward to something else. But I like the consistance in character models.

[Peanut]

I do too, but you have to admit they're boring as Hell. Seeing those same god damn models for the past couple years has worn a little thin.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I think that might have more to do with the fact that they have puked out so many filler games as of late that we're seeing them too often.

[Kid Icarus]

Oh, the second I saw SSBM I knew the Gamecube was extremely powerful, hands down. Then the fluid water in SMS, and then fluid animation and sound in Wind Waker, and the detail in RE4 (more then in the PS2, yes it's noticable, and if you even try to say it's not, you're an idiot. trees and shrubs are missing, jaggies galore. and now they should just go get a gamecube and RE4 for $120 some bucks. bite me.).

And now this. graphics that surpass RE4, better animation and sound (if that soundtrack that plays is the real one... sweet jesus) then Wind Waker, better water then SMS, smoother screen rates then SSBM, and draw distances to make you dizzy.

See, Ninty, this is what you needed to be doing all along. **** the soft looking characters. Use the SSBM Mario model. still looked highly approacable, but it looked *cool*.

Oh, and if my updates suddenly drop again.. it's because i'm having even MORE lovely computer problems. My HDD is on the verge of death, even as I type this. -_-. More bitching in the cafe.

[Dr. Doom]

Bottom line: Gamecube makes my pants feel tighter.

[BartAllen]

I love my gamecube dont get me wrong, but the ps2 has had better games, and im not talking about graphics, yes the gamecube has much better graphics then the ps2.
In my opinion the only really good games to come from gamecube are the resident evil games. Ive never been a fan of zelda or any of those games. so my opinion could be biased. well. I still play the original zelda for my nintendo. I love that game.

[Peanut]

Why have a Gamecube if you don't like Zelda or "any of those games"? I think that's kind of stupid.

[BartAllen]

Why have a Gamecube if you don't like Zelda or "any of those games"? I think that's kind of stupid.
Its not stupid. but thanks for calling me that. Im just saying. I dont like zelda. well. actually i do like zelda just none of the new games. I like the original. and i love my gamecube, resident evil 0 is one of my favorite games. and i have more in my life to just be a brand loyalist, its not stupid, but is it sad.

and that isnt a poke at anyone. I want to make sure no one is offended by my statement.

I should of been more specific, when i said or those games. i ment that cell shading type of game. ive never liked those types of games. I just trying to think of fun games that were exclusive to gamecube. that werent also on x box or ps2. but granted, i dont have the vast knowledge of gamcube that others do.

[Kid Icarus]

He didn't call you stupid, he called owning a Gamecube but not liking Nintendos games stupid.

Good games, opinion wise, is all personal. However, if you know about game design, Gamecube consistantly delivered, and Nintendo always delivers with their inhouse games (we'll ignore Mario Party, seeing as that's handled by Hudson now anyway).

I'll post a link to the Zoonami website later, so you guys can see some design documents on OoT (the Water Temple layout is enough to cause a migrane). Also, anyone who's ever sequenced broke in Metroid knows just how damn well Nintendo does complex level designs. They *know* bout those breaks, and they put them in there 90% of the time (cept Prime... those were programming errors by a begining studio).

RE0 is also on PSX. Why not just buy the $10 disc for your PS2, instead of wasting a Gamecube on it?

[Kid Icarus]

Double post. I don't really care. :-p.

As promised, here's some game design documents for Ocarina of Time. These are pretty standard when making any sort of game. They're the outline for everything. Story, item placment, level design, art... it all comes down to how well the original layout is constructed. Nintendo is very good at doing this, which is why their games generally have a much more polished feel (albeit lacking a bit this generation, still on par or above any other studios).

http://www.zoonami.com/intelligence/surveillance/ocarina_of_time.php

Like I said above, anyone whos tried sequence breaking in a Metroid title should be familiar with the charts on there. They show, from start to finish, what items are need and where.

Also note that only in four places in the game are plot tokens needed. When you start, you have to beat the Deku Tree to go farther, to get to the future you have to have the three stones, then you have to get through the forest temple, and finally to face gannon you have to have all 7 medalions. Other then that, the entire experiance is about getting items, and using them to reach new areas. This is why the story in Zelda games isn't important... because it's *not*.

Now here's where the design really shines: difficulty curve. Nintendo has been blamed on holding peoples hands for the first hour or so of a game, but they really hold your hand throughout the entire game without you knowing is. This is a good thing though, because it allows the player to figure it out on their own, but never get entirely lost (unless that was planned, as we'll get to in a second). It's for this reason that Zelda really shines.

Every time you get an item, a puzzle that uses that item is usually right infront of your progress. Either learn the item, or stay stuck. Example: Slingshot. When you get it, you get trapped in a room and you have to use the new item to knock down a ladder to escape. Either learn how to aim now, or you're not going anywhere else in the game.

While we're on the subject of items, also notice next time you play OoT that if you're in a room that requires use of an ammoed weapon (bow, slingshot, deku sticks, magic items, bomb's, bombchu) that there is a generator in that room that you can get to without any of those. Nifty, huh? Dont' belive me... go check it out. I dare you to get stuck. Go on. You can't.

Now for keys... no matter what, you will always have access to a key when you need it. Yes, even in the Water Temple (still getin there). Again, I dare you to ever be stuck without being able to get a key somewhere in the temple. You can't.

Why?

Because Miyamoto is god, and clearly smarter then you.

Water temple.

Look at the digram on the page for the temple. Confusing, no? Not really, if you stare at it long enough. Read it like a book... left to right, top to bottom. It's a walk through for the dungeon! :-O. The thing that makes the Water Temple so confusing is the level design. We all know how frustrating it is to get lost in there, and how easily that happens...

more later. Work time again. -_-.

[Peanut]

Its not stupid. but thanks for calling me that.

Where the hell are you reading? Do you just make up your own posts whenever you read stuff? Where did I call you stupid? I said I think it's stupid to own a Gamecube and not like Zelda and those "other games", which you never specified. I didn't think "other games" meant Cel-Shaded ones. Who would even being to make that connection?

And what's wrong with the new Zelda game, not games, only one was cel-shaded. Just because of the style? Piss poor excuse not to like a game. I suppose this means you out right hated the new TMNT games as well? I can understand it, though. It is your opinion after all.

By the way. You might try reading posts before you begin making accusations. That's twice, junior.

Now for keys... no matter what, you will always have access to a key when you need it. Yes, even in the Water Temple (still getin there). Again, I dare you to ever be stuck without being able to get a key somewhere in the temple. You can't.

I don't see the point you're trying to make. Obviously you can't just "get stuck". That would be pretty bad game design. The stuff you're mentioning is basically in every game ever made. Whenever you get a new item/move etc. in ANY game you'll always need to use it right away to solve a puzzle or defeat an enemy. Obviously a game designer isn't going to drop you into a puzzle with an item/move that has a limited amount of ammo/usage and expect you to get it done in 10 shots or 1 minute, then just leave you trapped in a room forever because you either failed, or you can't get more ammo/power etc. All basic stuff. What's so special about it?

[Kid Icarus]

Most games don't make you use limited items to solve puzzles though, avoiding that design hangup.

And with the keys it all comes down to level design. You can get keys out of order (note, again, the Water Temple), but you're never stuck without access to another key, ever.

And the point I was trying to make was how much work and polish goes into the Zelda series for our friend here, in hopes that he'd find some appreciation for the new games.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Truth be told, I've been bored as hell with gaming lately. I'm too busy with other things like brodening my musical tastes as well as catching up on other things I've been missing far too long, but these screens make me happy.

http://ds.advancedmn.com/images/media/Tetris11.jpg

http://ds.advancedmn.com/images/media/Tetris5.jpg

http://ds.advancedmn.com/images/media/Tetris7.jpg

http://ds.advancedmn.com/images/media/Tetris3.jpg

It's not eye candy folks. Brand new Nintendo themed Tetris modes. I WANT NOW.

[Barkworm]

I can't wait to play this.

[Mecha Cow]

I am not a fan of 8-bit sprites on a photo background, but those DK and Metroid screens do look cool.

[Kid Icarus]

Metris looks interesting... and is that Yoshi's Cookie? WTF? It looks like you get to choose which piece you get there...

[Dr. Doom]

Where's the Zelda mode?

[Kid Icarus]

It's there... from what I saw, it makes you meet certain criteria for each stage. The one screen shot was something like "clear 2 lines with an L piece".

[Kid Icarus]

Few game releases today.

Drill Dozer, from those freaks at Game Freaks. I do belive this is their first original game since Pokemon, and it looks to be a good time.

Resident Evil: Deadly Silence. Once again, go through the mansion, do the same puzzles, shoot at the same things, and put up with the same frustrating controls. We have a winner here folks. :roll:

[Peanut]

Get a PSP and Megaman Maverick Hunter X!!!!!!!!

[ThirdMarioBro]

Where's the Zelda mode?

Ta Da!

http://ds.advancedmn.com/images/media/Tetris8.jpg

[Kid Icarus]

Get a PSP and Megaman Maverick Hunter X!!!!!!!!:lol:

Yes. $300+ just to play a game that I already own two copies of... that'd be a GREAT idea!

[Peanut]

:lol:

Yes. $300+ just to play a game that I already own two copies of... that'd be a GREAT idea!

I wasn't serious. Not only do I think paying that much for one game is ridiculous, but I know you're too closed minded to own anything but a Nintendo sytem.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I swear, if these people in Animal Crossing don't quit calling me Nibblit, I'm going to throw by DS......or dig holes in front of all their houses.

I think I'm going to put a big birdie on my town flag, and I don't mean the kind that fly :evilgrin:

[Kid Icarus]

TMB, they call me G Money. I swear to god, they really do.

I'm waiting for G Unit next.

I wasn't serious. Not only do I think paying that much for one game is ridiculous, but I know you're too closed minded to own anything but a Nintendo sytem.
Wrong!




I own a Genesis. Boohyeah! Oh yeah!


:lol:


No, seriously, I'll pry get a PS2 when PS3 comes out and they become dirt cheap.

[ThirdMarioBro]

:lol:, yeah...they'll finally drop the price to

*drumroll*

$99.95

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Mecha Cow]

What's this (http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/47791120060208_150348_0_big.jpg)? Nintendogs 2? Why no, it is The Dog Happy Life, an exciting new concept coming soon for PSP!

[Barkworm]

Pathetic...

[Kid Icarus]

Seeing as everyone and their uncle (and aunt, and grandma, and mom, and dad, and sister... ect) in Japan already has Nintendogs, I doubt this'll sell very well.

Oh well. It was only a matter of time. I can't wait to hear Reggie blast the game at E3 though.

[XERO]

We need a Nintencats.

[ThirdMarioBro]

God, that is such a sad looking mess. They are so damned sad. That is all I can say. No talent whatsoever.

[XERO]

I agree...


But we still need a Nintencats.

[Kid Icarus]

we need more revolution news! oh wait.. what's this...


http://www.infendo.com/

that site has the first pictures of the BACK of the machine. There's an air vent, and three ports. power and display, obviously... and my bet on the third is the port for the controller bar.

also, the analog attachment is shaped like the N64's middle prong. Thank you, Nintendo. :D.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Holy Shitsu, you're right. That does mimmick the middle handle of the N64 perfectly.

http://ga-forum.com/revback.html

I don't like how Revolution always looks slanted in those pictures though.

[Barkworm]

Here are more pics of the DS Lite (you might have to copy and paste):

http://www.gfdata.de/archiv02-2006-gamefront/ndslite1.jpg

And I have to admit that it looks a lot better than I thought. Definitely an improvement to the original design.

[Kid Icarus]

And sadly, I'll be buying one for the brighter screen. Oh well, my neice has wanted a DS for a while... maybe I'll sell her my old one for like $40 to knock some diffrence off the cost of the new one.

I also hear the stylus is bigger with the Lite. Any confirmation on this?

And the news drought is over! whooho!

New New Super Mario Bros. screens!

http://www.4colorrebellion.net/media/pics/06/02/new_mario.jpg

Bullet Bill, haunted houses, and a desert world!

Edit: when i said the drought was over... I had no idea we'd be getting a flood. Geeze -_-.

http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1139509873

Metroid Prime Hunters will veature voice chatting before and after matches, DS will be able to download content from kiosks (they mention Best Buy and Gamestop specificaly) including movie trailers, game demos, and i'd assume possible firmware updates. I could also see game data for Animal Crossing, Nintendogs, and such as well as possible hotspots. Damn.

and more from Reggie here: http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1139511106

Zelda's going to be forward compatable. Damnit. I want the game NOW, not later with Revolution bonuses. -_-

Nintendo's considering bringing the Play-yan to the states, and pairing with SD card manufacturer's like SanDisk to bundle cards in with the system.

And, if a third party doesn't hurry up and made a DS web browser, Nintendo apparently will.

[ThirdMarioBro]

*sigh* I can't wait for Christmas for that game. :cry:

I WANT NOW!

[Kid Icarus]

Heh, you interuppted my news post. :-p.

Off to work... today's a good day, my friends!

Free online voice chatting, and Metroid all in one. :-O

[ThirdMarioBro]

Gah, beat me to it ;)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060209/ap_on_hi_te/games_nintendo_ds_1

Yes ladies and gentlemen, Nintendo added voice chat. That's another barrier broken down.

[Kid Icarus]

Hah, now we get to say stupid things like 'BARBEQUE!' over our DS's crapy mics! Amazing!

I'm waiting for the money printing add-on though.

[ThirdMarioBro]

:lol:

Well, thus the shouting of....

"BOOM HEADSHOT YOU FU*KING N00b!!!!!!LOLOL!1!1!1LOLOLPWND"

begins. :D :P Gonna be SCHWEET!

[Kid Icarus]

hahaha! omg, chicken butt!

Um. to make this post not entirely spam...

What the hell is Iwata going to reveal in his keynote now? Can there be more MEGATON announcments comming up, or are we just going to hear him farting into the mic as an example of what he doesn't want us doing with MPH?

[Peanut]

Am I the only one who got completely aroused at those new SMB pictures? I mean...this looks like SMB3 on steroids. It's going to be f*cking amazing. If Megaman Maverick Hunter X taught me anything, it's that 3D sprites in side scrollers with detailed backgrounds looks AMAZING! I can't wait for this.

[JameO]

Would that be Canadian Best Buys too? It says US Retailers so I guess not. We never get anything us Canucks!

[ThirdMarioBro]

Honestly, I crave that Mario platformer more than anything right now. Screw Zelda. I have to wait an extra year on that one, but I've been waiting on that Mario game for damned near fifteen years. Peanut's right. It looks like SMB3 on steroids and speedo. I'd murder to play that sucker. IT'S BEING DESIGNED BY THE ORIGINAL SMB3 TEAM!!!!!!!

Also, industry rumor is that Iwata will reveal Revolution's final name at GDC. Weither they change it is in the air though. I also hear that the actual units have already gone into production in China.

[Barkworm]

There are also rumours that Iwata might announce the price of the system. And let's not forget about the final secret Miyamoto has been teasing us with.

[Kid Icarus]

The final secret will wait till E3. I don't blame them. Everything they've done that changes the industry gets stolen, slightly upgraded, and marketed as something the theif came up with. ********, really.

I want Tetris and Mario. Now. Plzkthx. And Zelda, if only because I still have a copy held for me when it comes in, and I get to use my friends discount at Gamestop. WIN FOR ME! Now I'll actually be able to afford all these damned games. lol.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I need that damn game right now. P Switches, moving ledges, pipes, FIRE FLOWER!!!!!

I really must have that game now or I'll die. GIVE ME MY WEED NOW!!!!!!

[Mecha Cow]

New pics of the DS Lite (http://www.ownage.nl/news/11801/). Stupid Nintendo. The damn thing is actually growing on me. And the navy blue one looks HOT.

[XERO]

Screw the Sith.

Nintendo is the real Dark Side.:evilgrin:

[Peanut]

New pics of the DS Lite (http://www.ownage.nl/news/11801/). Stupid Nintendo. The damn thing is actually growing on me. And the navy blue one looks HOT.

God damn it! Now I have to get one! What bullsh*t! Why couldn't they make it look that good in the first place!?! DAMN THEM!

[Barkworm]

The sad thing is that everytime I look at my DS now I think something like "God, it's ugly!". I'm seriously considering buying a Lite... :cry:

[Kid Icarus]

I'm only buying one because of the screen brightness. It's an ego thing, yanno? Being albe to go up to PSP users and say "well, both of my screens are brighter then your one." then make horrible faces at them and farting sounds. Immature? **** yeah. Fun? You betcha. Entirely pointless? That's the whole point! :D

[Barkworm]

If I didn't think that the PSP was completely worthless I'd scold you now! :lol:

[Kid Icarus]

:lol:

Income tax return came in today, so I'll be getting my new computer (parts) tommrow before work. YAY COMPUTER PARTS! Um. Yeah. Ahem.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://newgrounds.com/portal/view/288069

I nearly pissed myself laughing at this one.

*edit*

I also just made an AC:DS town flag that is guarnteed to piss people off. :evilgrin:

[Peanut]

If I didn't think that the PSP was completely worthless I'd scold you now! :lol:

It's picking up Barky, they've got some good things coming from it. Still nowhere near as good as DS, but it's still getting good.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The only fun I've had with it is watching music videos on it. It's good at that, but Ridge Racer and Lumines got old.

I'll nail that Mega Man game though.

[Peanut]

I've also enjoyed PoP: Revelations and GTA: LCS on it. Mega Man has been the best though. I'm looking forward to Exit, Bubble Bobble, Worms and Mega Man Powered Up.

DS has Super Princess Peach coming out though...so...that pretty much beats them all.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Followed eventually by...........

SUPER MARIO BROS 5

for lack of a better name, that is what I will call it.

[Peanut]

They should call it that, because it looks like it'll be worthy of that name.

[Kid Icarus]

the 22nd for SPP right?

I olmost bought Drill Dozer today. I want that game, if only because it proves that Game Freak arn't one trick ponies.

Augh. too much i wanna get. -_-.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Together with the announcement, Nintendo revealed additional details about the DS Lite. First and foremost, it confirmed once and for all DS Lite can play Game Boy Advance games, and its cartridge slot will be located at the same bottom rim of the handheld, as on the original DS. However, Nintendo notes that GBA cartridges will stick out by one centimeter when they're inserted into the DS Lite, due to the smaller form factor. The DS's card slot and power cord socket will be located in the same places as before, while the power switch and stylus holder have been relocated to the right edge of the handheld.

The DS Lite will come with four adjustable levels of screen brightness, with the maximum setting being five times as luminous as the original DS's. Battery life has also been improved. The original DS ran 6 to 10 hours on a full recharge, and the DS Lite runs for about the same number of hours on its maximum brightness. The new model can run 15 to 19 hours on its lowest brightness, 10 to 15 hours on its second level of brightness, 7 to 11 hours on its third level, and 5 to 8 hours on the maximum level. What's more, the DS Lite's battery recharges in three hours, which is an hour less than the original DS.

As previously reported, the DS Lite's body thickness has been reduced by a third (when folded), and it features a 20 percent weight reduction, from 275 grams to 218 grams. The screen size remains unaffected, and both the top and bottom panels use 3-inch LCDs. The original DS used semitransmissive LCDs for its two panels, but the DS Lite will use transmissive LCDs, which allows for higher levels of brightness.

The DS Lite will come with a new AC adapter that is not compatible with other Nintendo handhelds, including both the original DS and Game Boy Micro. There will be two styluses bundled with the DS Lite, and they'll come in the same body color as the handheld. The styluses will be one centimeter longer and one millimeter thicker than those included with the original DS. The DS Lite will also be bundled with a carrying strap and a plastic dust cover that can snap into the GBA slot when empty.

DS LITE SPECS

Model code:
DS Lite: USG-001
Original DS: NTR-001(JPN)

Body Size:
DS Lite: 133.0x73.9x21.5mm (when folded)
Original DS: 148.7x84.7x28.9mm (when folded)

Weight (including battery and stylus):
DS Lite: 218g
Original DS: 275g

Stylus Size:
DS Lite: 87.55x4.99mm
Original DS: 75.0x4.0mm

Upper Display:
DS Lite:
3-inch transparent TFT color LCD with backlight featuring four adjustable levels of brightness, 192x256 pixel resolution, 0.24mm dot pitch, 260,000 colors
Original DS:
3-inch semitransparent TFT color LCD with backlight, 192x256 pixel resolution, 0.24mm dot pitch, 260,000 colors

Bottom Display:
DS Lite:
3-inch transmissive TFT color LCD with backlight featuring four adjustable levels of brightness, 192x256 pixel resolution, 0.24mm dot pitch, 260,000 colors, transparent resistive touch screen
Original DS:
3-inch semitransmissive TFT color LCD with backlight, 192x256 pixel resolution, 0.24mm dot pitch, 260,000 colors, transparent resistive touch screen

Power and Battery
Original DS:
6-10 hours
Full Battery Recharge time: four hours

DS Lite:
Lowest Luminosity: 15-19 hours
Low Luminosity: 10-15 hours
High Luminosity: 7-11 hours
Highest Luminosity: 5-8 hours
Full Battery Recharge time: 3 hours

*Playable hours change depending on game
By Hirohiko Niizumi -- GameSpot

18 mother fu*king hours on a single charge?!?!?

Congradulations Nintendo, you just sold me another damned DS. :lol:

[Dr. Doom]

I'll keep my non-GBA-game-sticking-out-type DS, thank you very much.

[Kid Icarus]

A centimeter is so tiny, you pry won't even notice it at all. They're not talking GB games on a GBASP sticking out here, they're talking "oh, a lil bump, not much though".

I'll be buying one. And it comes with a bigger stylus... I don't have any complaints about the originals, but the bigger ones should shut people up.

And you know, with Nintendo, that 18 hours really means about 20-25. That's ****ing IMPRESSIVE right there.

[Mecha Cow]

A centimeter is indeed tiny, but on a machine this size it's a pretty significant length.

Not sure about the longer stylus. I have no problems with the current one and I don't know if it should be any longer. Oh well, doesn't really matter much.

[Duke]

Yeah i think it will be pretty significant too. I don't think i'll mind it but a centimeter is still going to show when you are talking about something so little.

[Kid Icarus]

Christ, then take the game out and put the cover in when you're not using it.

I know that when I play games, I spend more time looking at the, yanno, screens... maybe I'm just alone there. :roll: .

Oh, I got Puzzle Leauge/ Dr. Mario today. How I lived without this game for so long, I do not know.

[IceFlash78]

Followed eventually by...........

SUPER MARIO BROS 5

for lack of a better name, that is what I will call it.


Uhhh.. SMB 5? Where was 4? Did you mean SMW was the Fourth?


Anyways, I've been putting off on getting a DS cuz I have trouble getting used to the dual screen thing... I can't really loook at two screens at the same time, and at the time, i thought you couldn't play GBA games... but now that you can, maybe i'll splurge a bit and pick it up... Can you play regular GB/GBC games on it? That may be my biggest deterrent if you couldn't..

[Barkworm]

No, you can't.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Uhhh.. SMB 5? Where was 4? Did you mean SMW was the Fourth?


Anyways, I've been putting off on getting a DS cuz I have trouble getting used to the dual screen thing... I can't really loook at two screens at the same time, and at the time, i thought you couldn't play GBA games... but now that you can, maybe i'll splurge a bit and pick it up... Can you play regular GB/GBC games on it? That may be my biggest deterrent if you couldn't..

You don't usually look at both at the same time, and in the end, you usually wind up focusing on the bottom one. If you can't focus on a dual screened setup....well then, I pity you.

[Peanut]

Well...I guess I'll have to thank Nintendo for grabbing some more cash off of me. I guess I'll just give my original DS to my sister or something...

[Duke]

I know that when I play games, I spend more time looking at the, yanno, screens... maybe I'm just alone there. :roll: .
I just said it was going to be noticeable that's all. I too play games for the actual gameplay. But some people just can't admit nintendo could possibly do anything that wasn't perfect, can they? Nintendo has and probably always will be my favorite gaming company but it doesn't mean I'm not above admitting they do things that aren't always perfect. Continuing to deny us Zelda so they can add revolution features to the game is retarded. With all that being said i'm sure i'll pick up a new DS when it comes out. But that doesn't mean that i like the fact that the advance games will stick out even if it is only a centimeter.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, that is annoying, but I'm willing to deal with it to keep sizes down.

[Dr. Doom]

The ****ing screen is bright enough, I can see it perfectly fine, and the thing fits in my jacket pocket. I'm perfectly happy with my horribly arcahaic and oversized electric blue DS, and the fact of the matter is I'm not buying two ****ing DS' in one year. I wouldn't even buy 2 DS' in two years. You guys can shell out the money and justify it by telling yourself it's Nintendo if you want, just don't tell me I'm missing out on something. I save myself $139 and and playing the same freaking games as everyone else. And don't even try to tell ME to pay attanetion to the screen, you're the ones shelling out the money for a redesigned system when most of if not all of you have a perfectly fine original one.

[GK Punk]

Aslong as the new one comes in Pink, I'm sold.

Of course, I dont have an original DS so they would have sold me one at some point this coming year even if they didnt revamp it...

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, and Metroid Hunters is comming up, and looks to be one of the greatest handheld titles to ever exist. Now with over 15 multiplayer maps, voice IP support, and one HELL of an engine, plus a full length Metroid Prime style solo player mode where you get hunted by six other bounty hunters.

And Doom, I'm not saying you're missing out on anything. Hell, t's the same damn machine. No difference in any way whatsoever. I'm just obligated to buy it because

1. It's white, it's Apple style design, and sexy as hell

2. I collect this sh*t which means I'd buy it even if it was a sh*tty plastic red headset with red LED displays.....oh wait....bought that too. Dammit I am hopeless.

[ThirdMarioBro]

*update*

Metroid Prime hunters's voice IP is limited to people on your Friend's list, which means you'll almost never get to use it.

Dammit Nintendo, I knew they'd find a way to screw this up. *sigh*

*edit*

giggle time.

Apprently, rumors from developers indicate that PS3 games are being developed at 720p, then upscaled to 1080i because developers can't get the games running at any kind of acceptable (we're talking 30fps here) framerate when running in native 1080i mode. Add to this the fact that some un-named source at EA is saying the case (system unit) Sony has shown off this far is too small for their needs. Yes people, the refridgerator just because a whole kitchen. :lol:

Honestly, that 1080i thing is pathetic. Looks like this thing really is going to be just a hard to program for 360.

[Mecha Cow]

Awesome (http://www.ownage.nl/images/content/32569.jpg).

[/10 Characters]

[Barkworm]

I saw this before and I have a hard time understanding it. Why don't they just port it to Revolution? Why would anyone buy a GameCube in November???
That being said, I'm looking forward to it as much as ever.

[Kid Icarus]

But some people just can't admit nintendo could possibly do anything that wasn't perfect, can they?

Would people please stop assuming that I think everything Nintendo does is perfect? If you would actually READ what I post, I do admit that it's a flaw, but it's unimportant. Use your brain next time you try to insult me, please?

You want proof? Zelda: Twilight Princess. This game should have been out by now, we should have played and beaten it. But no, why? Because Nintendo thinks we all want to be able to control it with the Revoltuion remote. That's retarded. Make a NEW game to show off the concept. That's why Mario 64 was so revolutionary... it was NEW. And now it looks like they've delayed it until November. Two things... Revolution won't come out until this game's out, and this game was supposed to be out MONTHS ago. And now, besides Chibi Robo, I have NOTHING to play on Gamecube until this fall. Way to make us feel like we went with the right company, Ninty.

And how bout this? They should have just put out this redesign FIRST. My bet is this is why there's such a shortage in Japan right now, because they felt the need to milk us for more money. Great, Nintendo... you just let PSP gain sales on you. Looks great.

And not showing us Revolution games and letting rumors continue about underpowered hardware. This is pry what pisses me off the most.

Oh, and the Pokemon RPG's. Change them, or stop making them, Nintendo. I'm tired of playing the same game over and over and over again with some new, badly designed, monsters with new, badly designed, attacks. Diamond and Pearl had better change the series, or else I won't be buying them until they drop wayyyyyyyyyy down in price.

[Duke]

I wasn't trying to insult anyone. I was just saying that sometimes people (fanboys) blindly defend Nintendo. It is a design flaw and i'm glad you admit it. It is not something that will stop me from getting it but it's still a flaw nonetheless. I just hope they don't go and make a 3rd DS to fix this minor design flaw, cause if they do I'm seriously considering boycotting them for a while. And by seriously I mean probably for a month or something. Cause they do make the best games. I've noticed TMB finally starting to realize that there are other companies and consoles that make great games, and I'm glad to see that at least you realize Nintendo isn't flawless.

November? This f-ing sucks. Seriously? I want the game now, make a new game for Revolution don't pawn this crap off on us.

[Barkworm]

The ironic thing is that this "GameCube"-game will probably never touch my Cube...

[ThirdMarioBro]

Ironic that the once most "highly anticipated game in the industry" is now looking like it will be a dated cop-out on Revolution launch software. I think Nintendo's managed to ruin it for me.

[Barkworm]

Ah, whatever. The Cube is dead anyway.

First pics of Mother 3!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/barkworm/mother3.jpg

EDIT: A new SMB video! The video is short, the quality is crappy and the guy who's playing sucks but DAMN! The game looks hot!
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=9342&pl=game&type=wmv

EDIT²: NPD hardware sales for January are up:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/barkworm/sales.jpg

[Kid Icarus]

Damn. That looks like it's going to play a lot like Super Mario World, as far as the physics goes.

And did he pick up a spikey shell? The hell... that's cool I guess. Little weird though.

Thank god I waited to get Puzzle Leauge (Dr. Mario's been neglected). I'm finally getting the hang of hot chaining. I hit a 7 chain last night. Whooho. Or something.

There is a god! Zelda isn't delayed...again... the site that had the date change switched it back to April 1st.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Frankly, I don't think Best Buy have any more clue when it's comming out that we do. Oh, and you've still got a ways to go before you can top my x22 chain :D :D

Oh, and you could pick up spineys in SMB3. They altered that in SMW, but it appears to have been switched back to SMB3 physics. Just judging by the way he stalls in the air a bit, that seems to resemble SMB3 a bit more than SMW.

Oh, and if I don't play that game now I'm going to have to kill something.

[Kid Icarus]

I hit a 12 chain tonight, I'm getting there. At least I can see the combos and chains linking up now... before they'd happen if they happend. now it's just getting my hands to move the buttons fast enough to get them all going, and getting some more timing problems i have with the game down.

Has anyone picked up Drill Dozer yet? I'm on the fence... I hear it's good in reviews, but it'd be nice if one of you guys had some input.




Whats this... some more Revolution news?

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/02/14/revolution-patent-reveals-ports/

Topic for discussion in link addy.

Cool. I'm worried about the side vent being blocked when you have the system in the stand though... assuming that thing with the holes in it on the right side is an intake vent (a fan can be seen on the rear vent). And 2 USB ports. My guess is that these are for the controller bars... didn't they say you'd have to have two of them, after all?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Hmmm, that AV out jack suddenly dosen't look like the standard port Nintendo has been using for the past 15 years. GOOD THING. This means that there is a chance of them having a proprietary option to output a high resolution signal. Just a thought, but perhaps that's why they aren't supporting HD? Meh, probobly bunk anyway.

http://www.nintendo.com/gameminiav?gameid=SHMfI4-pd_DDhbjpYkb631-LunYD1UhC

There goes another $30. There's a Nintendo conference starting in Japan for the DS in a few hours. We're expecting news about a TV tuner, DS Lite, Web Browser, and a slew of new game announcements. Hold on to your pants folks.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Oh stupid me. The conference is underway now.


First news.....DS Web Browser is OFFICIAL. Developed in conjunction with Opera Software technology, known for the best portable browsers in the Palm OS and Cell phone buisness. K.I.C.K.A.S.S.

Next news, New Super Mario Bros comes out in Japan in MAY!!!!!!!

So, if they delay it over here until God only knows when, fu*k it. We can import and get it quickly. I am so fu*king excited.

*edit*

http://ds-x2.com/index.php?id=4847

and another $30 bites the dust...

http://ds-x2.com/index.php?id=4846

and another $30 (Polarium on GBA? Wierd, but whatever. Sold)

[Kid Icarus]

Christ. Tetris DS is going to sap far too much of my time away... especially that Push Mode. Damn you, Nintendo. And damn you, puzzle games! Damnit!

Heh. Nearly got hit by a car tonight walking to my car from work because I was paying too much attention to PdP.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Ow, that one had to suck ass. :( I remember the time someone almost plowed into me in my own front yard. Rear View window missed my face by 1 1/2 at 50 MPH. Scared the sh*t out of me.

http://ds.advancedmn.com/images/content/news/operads.jpg

I WANT THAT BROWSER NOW. The PSP's browser is very nice, but the severe lack of ease of text imput makes it hell to use, just like text input on Animal Crossing (and anything else for that matter) was hell. Just the benifit of having a touch screen/virtual keyboard is going to make this so much more damned functional. To say I am looking forward to that would be a mass understatement. Also, the DS boots faster than the PSP so I can log on, check my mail, log off, go on with my buisness in 2 minutes time. Booting the PSP up, connecting, and going through the menus and junk before getting to text imput......I just as well go home and check my laptop. It would be quicker. This should be very nice indeed.

[Kid Icarus]

Yeah, well... my bad basicaly :). I was in the middle of that 9 chain... good times. I hit a 10 chain last night. Played on game for a full hour before I realized it was 4:30 in the morning and I needed sleep. I'm gonna mess with the max speed settings and let it go up to 99... 50 just isn't putting the pressure on me anymore.

In some more news, we have the first official 3rd party Revolution launch title, from none other then Tecmo (Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive). It's a golf sim in the Pangya series, that's apparently pretty damn popular all over Asia right now.

This is great, in my mind. We'll be able to swing the golf club with more variations then is possible with number inputting in a regular sim... and this should attract some older business men and other people into golf. Awesome.

Plus it's Tecmo. They've been ignoring Nintendo far too long... here's hoping we'll see a Ninja Gaiden entry soon.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I doubt Gaiden will ever make it, but it is good to see them branch out to Nintendo for the first time since.......hell, SNES I guess.

[CookSux]

Am I the only one who saw that Mario clip months ago? There's another one with Mario against a giant goomba..

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, you're right. I think I just forgot.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20060215/nin24.jpg

THAT'S FU*KING BRIGHT

[Duke]

Yeah i definitely want one now.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://ds.advancedmn.com/images/media/metroidhunters_041.jpg
http://ds.advancedmn.com/images/media/metroidhunters_040.jpg
http://ds.advancedmn.com/images/media/metroidhunters_037.jpg
http://ds.advancedmn.com/images/media/metroidhunters_033.jpg
http://ds.advancedmn.com/images/media/metroidhunters_028.jpg

TWENTY-FIVE Multiplayer Maps. This is the Metroid Prime of handheld single player, and the Halo 2 of handheld multiplayer all rolled into one sweet package. Sweet mother of gaming, this is going to rule so hard.

[Peanut]

Meh...Metroid doesn't seem like the greatest fit for a multiplayer shooter. It'll probably be alright though. 25 maps isn't that spectacular. Sure it's a lot, but how many will actually be played on a consistent basis? Maybe around 9 or 10...if that many. They might all be sh*t. We don't know!

[Kid Icarus]

It's Nintendo doing something they don't do very often... providing you with options.

The more they put into this game, the more they can advertise it has. What sounds better, nine maps, or twenty five maps?

[Peanut]

Yeah...I get that. Sorry. I forgot we have to jizz on everything Nintendo makes or we're being blasphemous.

Must always think of the positives. I wouldn't want to break that important law.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Okay, I'm going to discribe it from my E3 Impressions. The Multiplayer IS Halo, but with a touch screen. Metroid Prime 2's multiplayer was a tacked on train wreck on a joke. Basically, whoever can lock on first is the winner. Here, it's about aim, control, and percision shooting. There is no lock-on here. Not even with the missles. It's skill shooting. Now, the single player is going to be Metroid Prime without the lock-on. This dosen't effect the game because Metroid isn't about the control interface. It's about the atmosphere, style, and general feel of being alone, or being hunted, both of which this game's single player have.

Halo 2 was weak in the fact that the single player was dogsh*t. They focused on one thing, and excelled at it, but the other sucked. We all know the game sold on the multiplayer alone, and rightfully so. Metroid is an even harder challenge. They basically have to design two completely seperate games that use the same interface on the same card. Single player has to be full Metroid Prime quality and style, which it looks to be. The multiplayer on the other hand, has to feel almost like a completely seperate game, and from what I played, it is. The two share little other than their control interface. The multiplayer is designed about multiplayer killing. Single player is about exploration and killing the opposition who this time is going to have AI and be exploring the same worlds you are trying to hunt you. Basically, Metorid Prime meets Metroid Fusion with smart AI.

Also, the E3 demo (even in the simple form it was in back then) was filled with sniper points, places to jump out and kill, power-ups, and basically everything you would expect from a multiplayer FPS. The stages were very well designed. It played basically like Halo with a charge shot. The Single player though (from what I've seen) looks to feel just like Metroid Prime, which is hella good.

So basically, I think the game will turn out fine.

[Peanut]

How was Halo 2's single player dog sh*t? Only someone who hasn't invested any time in the game would say that. The only reason anyone was ever upset over it was the ending and that's because they wanted to play MORE. I seriously doubt Hunters multi will play like Halo. The two games are just too different. I have the Hunters demo and it doesn't control well enough to come even close to Halo. I'm sure the single player will be fine, but I'm seriously doubting the multiplayer will be anything more than a small blip on the FPS radar. It might be decent, but I'm seriously doubting it. Either way, I won't be wasting my money on it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The sh*tty Hunters demo is officially a year and a half old. Things evolve into hits in half that time.

[CookSux]

Am I the only one who wants them to make a port of Super Metroid on the GBA?

[Peanut]

The sh*tty Hunters demo is officially a year and a half old. Things evolve into hits in half that time.

I never said it wouldn't. I'm just trying to talk about the negatives of the game. Is it so wrong to talk about Nintendo games in a negative light? Must everything be completely positive? I'm going to outright state that the Hunters multiplayer won't be worth more than a passing glance.

The Metroid franchise isn't suited for FPS death matches. This is my opinion however, but it's also one shared by many people without Nintendo branded blinders covering their eyes. The Prime 2 Multiplayer was god awful, what's so special about Hunters that will make it better? Is it the downgrade in graphics or the smaller, lower resolution screen? Is it the less responsive controls perhaps? We'll have to wait and see, but I personally don't think it'll be worth the long wait Nintendo put Metroid fans through.

[Kid Icarus]

Sorry Peanut, but TMB has you on this one. Have *you* PLAYED the new version? No. Has he? Yes.

I'd think he'd know a bit more about a game he's played, then you would about a game you've only seen movies for.

Everyone bitches and moans that Nintendo doesn't do something, and then when they do, they bitch and moan that they don't want it. Make up your ****ing mind, or just, please, shut the **** up. At least they're *trying* to widen what you can play on their systems, finally. And what do people do? complain that it's not how it should be, and say that someone else could do it better.

And shut the hell up about 'nintendo blinders'. Just because I can find the good in something most people can only talk bad about makes me a rabid fanboy? Just because I know what *I* like in a game, and support the companies (yes, more then just Nintendo) that can give that to me, makes me some sort of moron who can't see the forest from the trees? That's ********.

I've played enough Halo (and Halo 2, yes) to know that I don't enjoy it. I've played enough Final Fantasy X to know that's not what I'm looking for. Hell, I even spent an hour and some minutes with GTA: Vice City. I can see why people like those games, and games like them... but I personally didn't get much from them. Not because they arn't from Nintendo (looking at my DS library, the majority of games are now third party, and my Gamecube collection isn't so far off from that either).

And did you just totally skip the post about the game? How the multiplayer is diffrent? How it plays? Did you not read the contrast between the two games?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Meh, to each their own. I'm not going to debate/fight over it. Pointless deabte really. Besides, I'm just going to ignore the fact that gaming exists at all until after Hunters and Tetris come out........ or when my city gets some 360 shipments .

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6144463.html

Ladies and gentlemen, UMD is dead. Even Sony pictures is cutting production to a fraction of what it was. We all know why UMD sucks, so I'll save the rant. All I can say is...bout' fu*king time.

*rips Cyndi Lauper concert onto PSP memory stick*

heh

[Mecha Cow]

Poor sales of an inferior, overpriced product? I'm shocked.

Oh, and I just read that Nintendo has apparantly stated there will be a web browser for the Revolution as well.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Where? That means a deeper Wi-Fi connection service plan may be in the works if they're going as far as a web browser. Imagine surfing the web with the remote.

[Mecha Cow]

Sorry, the only link I have is to a Dutch site, and I'm guessing that wouldn't help you guys much. Might be some official announcement soon though.

[Peanut]

See GWG. Do you see what you're doing? I state an opinion and you jump all over it because it's negative. Why would you do that? Why are you resorting to telling me to shut the f*ck up and stop bitching? Are you not intelligent enough to make a point without making a complete ass of yourself?
It's not that you don't like other videogames, it's that whenever anything slightly negative is said about a Nintendo game you get defensive.

Yes, TMB played the newer version of Hunters, but many people in many places a lot bigger than AMN have said the multiplayer of Hunters isn't as good as people think it will be. Metroid just doesn't work for the genre. Once again, it's an opinion and it seems like those types of things seem to get under your skin. Poor fellow.

And yeah, UMD's are complete sh*t. They should have stopped that garbage months ago.

[JameO]

See GWG. Do you see what you're doing? I state an opinion and you jump all over it because it's negative. Why would you do that? Why are you resorting to telling me to shut the f*ck up and stop bitching? Are you not intelligent enough to make a point without making a complete ass of yourself?
It's not that you don't like other videogames, it's that whenever anything slightly negative is said about a Nintendo game you get defensive.

Yes, TMB played the newer version of Hunters, but many people in many places a lot bigger than AMN have said the multiplayer of Hunters isn't as good as people think it will be. Metroid just doesn't work for the genre. Once again, it's an opinion and it seems like those types of things seem to get under your skin. Poor fellow.

And yeah, UMD's are complete sh*t. They should have stopped that garbage months ago.

As I stated before, tattoo of Nintendo should go on the ass, so finally they can kiss his ass. I can't see myself playing a FPS on the DS, with the touch screen, those type of games need to be used on consoles. Yet again my opinion, so take it easy, ok?

Also you should add a I <3 TMB tattoo to your ass as well, it suits the mood. No offence to TMB I like him, but GWG is just outragous and pisses me off to no end. You say oh don't hate you for seeing the good in a good company, but dont hate us for seeing the good in good companies in our opinion. Can't you just take the good and be a gamer and can't we just get along like that?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Okay, you know what? I don't give a fu*k anymore. I was actually debating weither I wanted the game at all last night. Video games are just loosing their luster to me by the day because of sh*t like this. It's all boring, it's all repetitive, and it's all fu*king ignorant arguements like this of dumb siht. It's just killed the whole thing for me. I haven't touched my Gamecube since Christmas when I took that goddamn Shadow game back to the store, and I haven't touched my DS for two ot three weeks. I can't remember. I'm just tired of all of this ignorant crap.

[Peanut]

It's not so much ignorance as you just being stuck with a dead console, buddy. Don't worry though, DS is going to pick up with Super Princess Peach. I can't wait for that b*tch!

[GK Punk]

Super Princess Peach maybe the straw that breaks my back. I may have to get a DS just for that game alone. What's the date on it?

[Barkworm]

February 27. I'm kinda worried about the previews though. Everyone seems to love the game but it's supposed to be extremely easy (Peach can heal herself). :|

[ThirdMarioBro]

Super Princess Peach maybe the straw that breaks my back. I may have to get a DS just for that game alone. What's the date on it?

Within a couple of weeks I think.

[Kid Icarus]

You know, I'm sick of this ****. You all wanna have the wrong impresion of me, go right the **** ahead. You're not worth it. You don't know me, and you obvoiusly never will.

Oh, and I'm pulling my reservation of TP tommrow. It's pushed back, again, until the fall. The News comes straight from Reggie. **** that Nintendo.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Same here. Pulling mine too. Fu*k them, fu*k Reggie and his double talk, and fu*k all of their forward compatability delay ridden stalling worse than last year of N64 bullsh*t. They've officially made me no longer give a fu*k about Zelda. I'm also putting my Gamecube into storage as I won't be touching it for the remainder of the year. Hell, might as well leave it there. I'm not playing fu*king Zelda when Smash Bros Revolution, Mario 128 and MP3 are there waiting on me. Zelda is officially off my "to do" list.

[Dr. Doom]

They've officially made me no longer give a fu*k about Zelda.

PFFT.

Yeah, that's the biggest load of horse **** I've seen posted here in a long time.

You guys can sit here and act like a bunch of drama queens about it, but that's not gonna cchange the fact that Nintendo is gonna do whatever the **** they want with this game, release it whenever the **** they want, on whatever the **** console they want, and it's gotta sell like 8 trillion copies, because that's how Nintendo got to be so great, by doing whatever the **** they want. And certainly none of this will change the fact that you WILL play this game like as soon as it comes out, and you'll think it's amazing, just like every other Zelda game out there, and you're gonna be all "Why did I ever doubt them?". I've said it before, and I'll say it a million more times, Nintendo has never given me any reason to doubt them in the past. Now I'm not gonna sit here and say I'm anywhere near being happy about this forward compatable nonsense or all the delays, but sitting here and PMSing over it isn't gonna solve anything. Because Nintendo's gonna do whatever the **** they want, and as you have proven many times before, you'll gobble it up.

That being said, let's do ourselves a favor and try not to get this thread locked.

[Barkworm]

My recommendation:
1. Take the money you saved on the XBOX 360.
2. Get a PS2 or an XBOX.
3. Play all the stuff you missed.

EDIT: I forgot
4. Enjoy Zelda in fall.

[Duke]

They've officially made me no longer give a fu*k about Zelda.Who the crap do you think you're kidding? Everyone who has every played a single zelda title gives a **** about the whole franchise. And while i'm incredibly pissed, i still think this will be one of the greatest games ever and i'm not letting nintendo take that away from me and neither is anyone else. You will buy it, play it, and love it. And you know that's the truth.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I was going to try to clairify my responce, but I don't really care enough about any of it anymore to bother. I just got back from pulling my preorder at Gamestop. They said many people had been in to do so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utTEbVjbiLI&search=madonna%20letterman

What do you guys think of this editorial?

[Demented Utrom]

Well I'm getting sick of Nintendo, delaying the game.It's going to be for the Revolution, features.
How long have they had, to work on this game 3 years.
I could care less about the Revolution, Features.
I didn't even Preorder it, by the time the game comes out it's going to be in the Fall.
Zelda Twilight Princess, more like Zelda delay till ?.
My finished rant.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Oh, forget it. Who cares anymore.

You know, I was thinking about 1998. That was one good fu*king year. Everything on every machine ruled.Ocarina, Pokemon Stadium, Spyro the Dragon, Crash Warpped, ect.

Hell, I wish so badly that Sony hadn't fu*ked up Spyro and Crash. It makes me sad because those two games were so goddamn good. Hell, those were good enough to make me get a PlayStation back then, but I decided to wait for the sequels to see if they could keep it up. They didn't. Sad thing.

[Dr. Doom]

I loved Spyro, but I couldn't play it for very long, it gave me such a headache. Like, literally.

[The Clerk]

wasn't '98 also the year that Super Smash Bros. came out?

I could be wrong... but I remember having a hella fun time with that game :)

[Dr. Doom]

I believe t'was 99.

[R-iZZy]

PFFT.

Yeah, that's the biggest load of horse **** I've seen posted here in a long time.

You guys can sit here and act like a bunch of drama queens about it, but that's not gonna cchange the fact that Nintendo is gonna do whatever the **** they want with this game, release it whenever the **** they want, on whatever the **** console they want, and it's gotta sell like 8 trillion copies, because that's how Nintendo got to be so great, by doing whatever the **** they want. And certainly none of this will change the fact that you WILL play this game like as soon as it comes out, and you'll think it's amazing, just like every other Zelda game out there, and you're gonna be all "Why did I ever doubt them?".
Sorry for quoting this... but LMFAO! So true. To be honest, I was pissy about the delay. First, they say November '05... then they push it back to the Christmas holidays.... now Fall... it's almost like trying to release an album on P. Diddy's Bad Boy Records, your release date will only get pushed back further and further until you're old enough to receive Social Security.

Anyway, all I can hope is that they're utilizing this time to improve the game. I'll still get it, no matter what. There isn't a Zelda game I haven't gotten yet. And delays won't be stopping that tradition. Zelda has always been about quality, and if time is a sacrifice that we have to make... then so be it! It'll come out eventually. I hate this phrase, but "patience is a virtue". I may not be so virtuous at the moment, but I know the game will get here, eventually. Until, we just have to occupy our times playing other games.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Pardon me Rizzy, but that Chick Norris SCIII sig has to be the funniest goddamn thing I've ever seen in my life.


LOAMROFLOL!!!!!!

[愛]

What the f*ck is this sh*t? I leave for a week or two, and you guys start some ridiculous and redundant Nintendo argument? Now I know why I didn't bother coming back here to check on the posts.

[Peanut]

It wasn't because of this. It was because your dick got caught in your cd tray again. Don't lie.

[ThirdMarioBro]

A Lot can happen in a week huh :P :D :P :D

CHICKEN DANCE TIME!!!!!!

WAHAHAHAHA!!!! I LISTEN TO MADONNA ALBUMS!!!! WAHAHAHAHA I CANCELLED MY ZELDA PREORDER!!!!!! WAHAHAHAHA I CAN BEND OVER SO FAR I CAN SMELL MY DING DONGS!!!!!!!!



Wha? A little spam never hurts.

[Barkworm]

Ding Dongs?! Plural?

[ThirdMarioBro]

*falls in the floor laughing*

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Barkworm]

New Super Mario Bros. coming to the US on May 7!!! (http://www.n-sider.com/newsview.php?type=story&storyid=1764)

New Seiken Densetsu DS TV spot! (http://www.ultrashare.de/f/6089/SeikenDSTV.zip)

More Mother 3 pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/barkworm/mother3-2.jpg

Pics of the GBAMicro/Mother3 bundle:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/barkworm/motherdeluxe.jpg

[ThirdMarioBro]

That Mother 3 Micro is fu*king AWESOME looking. Me likes. Very nice.

And that news about New Super Mario Bros. Every year after E3, Nintendo makes us sit on our ass with nothing to do all Summer but rehash the E3 news. Well, we've been rehashing since last year, so this year seems to be different. Looks like for once in a hundred years, when E3 ends, Summer starts with a bang.

Revolution unveiling, news, and stuff, then come home and Fire Flowers and Koopa shells are waiting on us THE DAY AFTER THE SHOW CLOSES.

Hell, I may be looking forward to the last day ending. I've waited for this for 15 years. Thank you Nintendo. Thank you for not delaying it to late Fall like usual. It's gonna be a DAMN good Summer. If that's the only thing they release, I don't care. I'll probobly go through it 10 times.

*dreams of throwing fireballs again like when I was little*

*tears of joy*

[ThirdMarioBro]

Software:
01. NDS - Eigo ga Nigate na Otona no DS Training: Eigo Zuke/English Training (Nintendo): 109,481 (351,924)
02. NDS - Motto Otona no DS Training/Brain Training 2 (Nintendo): 86,234 (1,143,195)
03. NDS - Oideyo Dobutsu no Mori/Animal Crossing DS (Nintendo): 68,599 (1,792,728)
04. PS2 - Tourist Trophy (SCE): 59,654 (*NEW*)
05. PS2 - Shin Onimusha: Dawn of Dreams (Capcom): 49,472 (275,806)
06. NDS - Otona no DS Training/Brain Training (Nintendo): 47,701 (1,488,761)
07. PS2 - Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII (Square-Enix): 44,947 (437,116)
08. NDS - EyeShield 21 Max Devil Power (Nintendo): 36,811 (*NEW*)
09. PS2 - Nobunaga no Yaboo (Koei): 36,675 (*NEW*)
10. NDS - Mario Kart DS (Nintendo): 22,613 (1,080,168)

Hardware:
PSP: 25,905 (285,276)
NDS: 25,321 (341,580)
PS2: 24,780 (195,456)
GBASP: 5,649 (46,933)
GBM: 3,199 (29,654)
X360: 2,194 (21,370)
GCN: 2,138 (28,552)
GBA: 115 (1328)
XBX: 101 (587)

YTD/LTD
NDS - 341,580/5,988,532
PSP - 285,276/2,968,238
NDS Lead - 56,888/3,020,294

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meh

[Barkworm]

Those numbers are two weeks old, TMB! You can find the latest ones here: http://www.gfdata.de/archiv02-2006-gamefront/01639.html

[Spitfire]

Do magazines get paid to give DS games crap reviews? Everytime I read a review for a DS game it's normally bad mouthing it. Here is the latest...

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=663805

[Peanut]

Have you even played the game? It f*cking sucks. The original was bad enough as it is. Just because it's Resident Evil doesn't mean it's going to be good. Jesus, do people think about what they type anymore?

[Spitfire]

I didn't play it yet no but it's the most recent game I've seen marked as bad by a game magazine. This isn't the only game. I assumed it was good cause all the RE fans I know that played it said it was...I know you don't like RE games so I couldn't expect you to like it anyways.

[Peanut]

It got 3 out of 5....What's wrong with that? IGN and Gamespot also rated it around there. A decent game but nothing completely amazing. How the hell is that bad?

I'd also like to know what other DS game got bad reviews?

[Spitfire]

I don't mean the score it got I mean lines like this

the game goes to show you that innovation isn't always everything that it's cracked up to be.

[Peanut]

Some guys are just biased, dude. Some just do it to stand out and piss people off. Jeff Gertsman from Gamespot used to do it all the time, until he found out he didn't need to act like an ass to get people to notice his reviews. Just because one douche rags on something you love, doesn't mean you need to go generalizing video game magazines as a whole, or saying stuff like magazines get paid to give DS games bad reviews. It's one review, man. Just one. The guy probably only played it for 15 minutes anyways. It is f*cking Gamepro.

[Duke]

the game goes to show you that innovation isn't always everything that it's cracked up to be. What's wrong w/ that statement? The word Sometimes doesn't mean all the time it means sometimes. Just cause a game comes out that has innovative features doesn't mean it's a good thing.

Note: I didn't read the review or play the game. I'm just stating that the statement makes sense.

[Spitfire]

The guy probably only played it for 15 minutes anyways. It is f*cking Gamepro.
Point taking...I used to like that magazine back when I was a kid. And your right it is one review. But usually when I read a Gamepro review for a Nintendo game their slamming it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

It's another RE remake. 3 out of 5 stars is being kind. This game has no reason to exist since the beautiful GCN remake exists. That, and they DIDN'T fix the Gawd awful camera system. After playing RE4, this game should be put in a measuem rather than played. It's a dinosaur. Cash in port with tacked on touch screen crap curtosy of Crapcom.

Now, to some rather befundeling news....

http://ds.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=3395&pg=1&comments=full#comments

What the fu*k is this thing? The patent was filed July 15 of last year. It's not the prototyle for the DS Lite because it lacks X, & Y buttons, yet it resembles the DS, but with sh*tty mono speakers. Some are calling this a prototype for the next Game Boy, but if that is the case, it's just a goddamned DS Downgrade, which seems to be too ignorant to be true. That, and it's pug fugly.

What the hell is this thing?

[Spitfire]

I prefere that style game to RE 4. RE 4 had no artsy camera angles or artsy anything really. It also lacks the fear. Once you get used to it it's easy. I mean moving like a tank isn't so bad.

But I adgree they should have made a new RE game. But it was the 10 year so they remade it for DS...

[Peanut]

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6144735/index.html

I'm guessing everyone has seen this? At least I hope they have. Awesome feature. I especially love the opening segment...MEGA MAN 2 STYLE!

[ThirdMarioBro]

Thank you. Best article I've read in some time.

[Peanut]

I loved the entire thing. The video was especially awesome.

I think the best part of the article was the feature on horrible game covers. Imagine if Mega Man actually looked like this?

http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/2006/features/flashback/nes/megaman_box.jpg

:|

[ThirdMarioBro]

DS Lite versus PSP.



http://static.flickr.com/38/106712254_5c07bb8982_b.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/37/106712160_db42d3fc9b_b.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/34/106712335_a023823254_b.jpg

Uh, yeah. Nintendo got back the brightness crown again.

[JameO]

Yay, now my eyes will continue to get worse!

[ThirdMarioBro]

I thought people's eyes were damaged when they strained to look at low light sources?

[Dr. Doom]

Smart ass.

[JameO]

Yes, what a smart ass, but yes that is true, but also staring at very bright objects for long periods of time doesnt exactly help the eyes. And I dont see the need for the brightest setting, ive tried the PSP in pitch black and it works great, and my regular DS will suit me for now, sure it looks great but I dont see myself wasting money on a brighter and smaller DS.

[Duke]

The only time my DS has been a problem is outside in the sun.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, the boxart is out. It's really comming in May folks. Bottom right corner of this pic I made......duh :lol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/Theseries.jpg

And then there were Five. That's going to take some getting used to.

The box let's you know stright up that the game is Super Mario Brothers heritage in design, and the layout goes out of it's way to show it's a 2D Platformer so that oldschoolers who don't keep up with gaming anymore will look at that and go....'HOLY SH*T A NEW SMB GAME".

The long overdue return to the classic SMB title screen font is there to kill the kiddie stereotypical bullsh1t that has been tagged to Mario since Super Mario World versus Sonic the Hedgehog. Seeing as Mario kart didn't use it, I think they've finally retired the Super Mario World font. Good move. It also screams out to all the retro geeks that this is a Mario game like they remember. THe boxart is trying to get the attention of three different groups: The Hardcore group, the casual group, and the Retired/Retro group. I think it susceeds on all three accounts.

Me likes. Although I'm sure some people will b*tch about it,

[Duke]

I really like the box art and I want this game now.

[Mecha Cow]

I actually really like that boxart, but I'm surprised they didn't change the title. 'New SMB' sounds more like a working title than anything else. Oh well, I don't care.

Also, sweet justice (http://www.the-magicbox.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16468).

[ThirdMarioBro]

Thank God. Online games in general need more options like that. The "Chump" rating is a perfect title for it. I guess they learned quickly from those 999 to 4 Mario Kart Win Loss Ratios and how it PISSES people like us off. I have a friend who will disconnect whenever he is going to loose, online or offline, no matter the game. He'll thro down the controller, turn off his handhelf, whatever. People who are more concerned with their "rep"/stats than actually having fun need to be shot.

Thank you NIntendo Software Technology Institute. Now if people want to disconnect, they'd better put their router cable by their DS and be willing to fu*k up their network to save their "reputation". :lol:

"Will the chump risk having to deal with the Windows XP Home Network Configuration Utility to save their falsely perfect win loss record? Tune in next week on "As the Chickensh*ts turn"

[Duke]

That chump rating is brilliant.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I'm glad it's comming in May because I couldn't wait any longer than that.

http://www.jeux-france.com/images0_4_14872.html

Bottom left corner. How long have I waited to see a modern Fire Mario?

YEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!


I feel like it's 1987 and I'm at my (good) cousin's house playing Super Mario Bros learning about Minus World for the first time. The return of the real Super Mario. It's been soooo long. I feel old.

[Anarky]

I hate to just rush in and ask a silly question, but I've been wondering and my walking solution to all games up to 2000 (aka. my brother) doesn't know the answer either. So here's the situation: I was playing Mario 64 again a couple of days ago and in the beginning there's this pathetic letter Mario gets from his princess and it's signed "In love, Toadstool" and with pink writing next to it "Peach" (could be the other way around too, fact is that there's two names). So what exactly is the princess' name? Is she called Peach or Toadstool?

[Dr. Doom]

If I'm not mistaken, her name is Peach Toadstool. Similar, in fact, to Bowser, who has also had 2 names (Bowser and King Koopa). His name is apparently King Bowser Koopa.

[Barkworm]

If I'm not mistaken "King Koopa" is his Japanese name.