The Nintendo Discussion Thread

[Barkworm]

I'm not sure if I understand your question.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I understand the Re....Wii controller can detect which way it is pointing, where it is being swinged, and all kinds of motion sensing stuff, but I really don't understand why it needs the ability to detech how far away it is from the system. How does that effect the controls of a game? What purpose does that serve? Meh, probobly not important anyway.

[Mecha Cow]

Could be used for all kinds of things, like throwing a ball or using a bow and arrow. Brings a new depth to things, excuse the pun. It seems really impractical though. We'll see in a couple of days I guess.

[Anarky]

I just read the Wii-bit. And I think Revolution sounds better, but then again, I liked Ultra 64 for a name... so I don't count.

Anyways, does the name have a meaning? All I could come up with was Wii being the latin plural of the word Wus, which is an insult with a typo. And since I doubt that Nintendo wants to insult all the players, it must be something else.

[Mecha Cow]

It's a play on the word 'we'. I've also heard that it stands for Wireless Interactive Interface, but that's probably just a rumor.

[JameO]

Like ive said ii = good in Japanese, and some other stuff related to the japanese, not too sure what, but its to catch it's japanese audience, they know we will buy it here in North America no matter the name.

[愛]

The reputation of Nintendo in Japan isn't all that high anymore. The portables such as DS and Advance do pretty well in Japan, but not the consoles. I watch a lot of Japanese TV, and every time they show a kid's room, he/she has a PS2. Let's face it, they love their RPG's. Nintendo is going to have a hard time appealing to their own people.

[Peanut]

I understand the Re....Wii controller can detect which way it is pointing, where it is being swinged, and all kinds of motion sensing stuff, but I really don't understand why it needs the ability to detech how far away it is from the system. How does that effect the controls of a game? What purpose does that serve? Meh, probobly not important anyway.

Like I've said, sword fighting or even melee attacks of any other kind, like pistol whipping. Moving the controller closer will mean being able to stab the sword forward. Your static position on your couch, or whatever, would mean a normal position for your sword/weapon. Moving the controller forward would thrust the sword forward or smack someone over the head with your gun in a FPS. It does have applications.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Okay, I didn't think of that. Makes sense. Thanks Peanut :)

[Dr. Doom]

What purpose does that serve?

t3h s3x0rz

[Kid Icarus]

Uhhh, yeah. We beat IGN to that story a long while back. Black and white with some colored effects here and there, ala Sin City. Frankly, the game sounds amazing and they look like the new Silicon Knights. We should get some amazing games out of them. We should get a couple of good games out of them before they defect and run with Xbox 360 with their new experience and popularity. :roll:


They've clarified. It's not along the lines of Sin City, but more of the Noir films of, i think, the 30's.

Just think of an old black and white movie, but moodier, and not hyped up on 'cool' like Sin City was.

[Kid Icarus]

Gamecube price drop's comming at E3, apparently.

Gamespot's got info from an EB Games employee of new sinage for Gamecube that has the words "New Lower Price!" on them, and spots for employees to write in the price.

Could we see a $50-$75 Gamecube?

To go with this, Amazon.com is posting a May 15th launch of Twilight Princess.

I'm not going to get excited, because I don't think they know what they're talking about.

But if Gamecube drops to $50-75, and TP comes out at the same time... That could be pretty huge.

Also keep in mind that New Super Mario Bros. comes out on the 15th as well, and we all know Nintendo likes to ship games at the same time to cut costs. Imagine, going into the store to pick up Zelda AND Mario at the same time. </nerdgasm>

Oh, and I haven't been around much lately because I messed up the slave/master setup on my computers drives, and have just been too damn lazy to **** with it.

[Barkworm]

I don't see why anyone would buy a GameCube now when the Wii is only a couple of months away. IGN's Matt Cassamassina posted in his blog that it will be out in October.
About Zelda: I'm pretty sure that it won't be out in May. There are a lot of official release lists for the first two quarters around and Zelda is not on it. I agree that it would be pretty sweet though. I was convinced that I'd never play the game on the Cube.

[Mecha Cow]

The Gamecube price drop is probably just for people who just want to play Zelda but don't want to buy a newly released console at full price. Looking at it that way, it's a good move.

And no way in hell is Zelda coming out this 15th.

[Kid Icarus]

Hell, if you didn't own a Gamecube, but lets say there were a few games you wanted to try out... woulden't you pick on up for $50? That's a freaking impuls buy price point right there, big time.

It also makes me think Wii is going to be pretty cheap.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I'm still playing Zelda on my Cube, and then again on my Revolut....Wii. I have got to quit doing that. No way in hell it's comming on May 15th though.


Oh, and I haven't been around much lately because I messed up the slave/master setup on my computers drives, and have just been too damn lazy to **** with it.

You're cursed dude. Really.

[Peanut]

Is anyone else pissing themselves in anticipations for New Super Mario Bros.? I mean, I was excited as hell before, but those trailers they've been releasing on the NSMB website are AWESOME! I'm going to explode when I get that game.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Small animals will die and throats will be slit if I don't get my fu*king hands on that game. 15 years is too long. I WANT TO STOMP GOOMBAS. I haven't stomped a Goomba since Super Mario 64. Seriously, those new videos on New SMB.com are unbelieveable. The sounds, the music, the original style is back (a big gripe for me as of late), and everything just feels like a true red blooded Nintendo game. Fu*k Zelda, New SMB is my most anticipated game ever right now.

[Duke]

Fu*k Zelda...I can't believe someone especially you TMB would say that.

But I too want this game so bad. I really don't know if I can wait another 2 weeks.

[TMNTerminator]

Hell, if you didn't own a Gamecube, but lets say there were a few games you wanted to try out... woulden't you pick on up for $50? That's a freaking impuls buy price point right there, big time.

It also makes me think Wii is going to be pretty cheap.

Absoultey...i got my cube around christmas because of tremendous deal at gamestop or one of those places that included an extra controlelr, mem card, metroid prime (first cube ever played and LOVED IT) and zelda...so you're definately right that some people, like ps/XB players might wanna drop a little change to try their hand at some of the few great cub games...

[Kid Icarus]

12 days until Mario ships... 14 days until I actually get to play the damn thing.

I need to go reserve it, now that I think of it. I'll do that on Saturday.

And the computer's ****ed. I'm going to have to reinstall Windows AGAIN. It boots me off right after I log in to any user account. I know it's nothing to do with the hardware, because it all ran fine in Safe Mode. ****ing XP. No wonder it's the smiley face of death.

Anyway, it HAS to be fixed for E3. I work on a college campus, and I'm taking Tuesday and Wednesday off next week (gotta love end of the year vacation time...). If I don't get to read all the E3 info instantly, people will die. DIE I say, DIE. >_>.

Hell, I'm going to put Ubuntu on there. Screw Windows.

[Barkworm]

What if you just bought a new one?

[Kid Icarus]

A new what? Computer? My computer *is* new (just over a month old now). The only old part on it is a CDRW drive. It's the OS. Computer runs fine. I'm gonna try a repair on it tonight, but I doubt that'll work. For shame.

And if that was about Gamecube, well then... sorry? I dunno. Email Nintendo and complain would be about all you can do.

[Peanut]

What do you do to that computer to get it to destroy itself every week!?!

[愛]

What kind of wifebeater are you to make a computer that's only one year old to act up in such a manner? Ridiculous!

[Duke]

What kind of wifebeater are you to make a computer that's only one year old to act up in such a manner? Ridiculous!It's not just over a year, he said it's just over a month.

[愛]

Month! Whatever! He's a monster!

[Barkworm]

My computer *is* new (just over a month old now). The only old part on it is a CDRW drive. It's the OS. Computer runs fine. I'm gonna try a repair on it tonight, but I doubt that'll work. For shame.
Ouch. I feel for you.

[Kid Icarus]

Month! Whatever! He's a monster!

I scapegoat it off to Microsoft. Hardware's all fine, computer's wired properly... it's gotta be the OS. Right? I dunno.

I'll be reinstalling Windows this weekend though, that I do know.

[Peanut]

Why does no one want to play Mario Kart DS with me!?!

Ai comes up with some lame excuse that he lost his dongle CD, and no one else is around to play. I want to set up a game with Ventrilo!

[Kid Icarus]

AHAHAHA! TAKE THAT WINDOWS!

Actually, XP pwned my account.

I had read about administrator accounts becoming corrupted... didn't think it'd happen to me.

I think I fix it by deleting the account, and just making a new one. I'm on my mom's and it's working just peachy. Go figure, huh?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Why does no one want to play Mario Kart DS with me!?!

Ai comes up with some lame excuse that he lost his dongle CD, and no one else is around to play. I want to set up a game with Ventrilo!

When I get home, we'll get on Ventrillo and Mario Kart until our hands bleed.

Until then, allow me to share with you the greatest video I have ever seen. Behold the rebirth of Mario...watch the top left one first. O...M...F...G

http://media.ds.ign.com/media/682/682879/vids_1.html

I'm floored. Welcome back to the Mushroom Kingdom folks, and this game just knocked both SMB3 and Super Mario WOrld off their throne. I'm going to cry until I get it. That was just...beautiful. NO MORE SUNSHINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Welcome back Mario. Seriously, I'm as giddy as a four year old who just discovered the minus world.

[Barkworm]

Wow. Bowser got barbecued! :o

[ThirdMarioBro]

Damn stright!

Now let's see people call Mario kiddy. I HAVE TO HAVE THAT FU*KING GAME RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kid Icarus]

If Gamestop doesn't have this in ON THE 15TH, they die a horrible, very painful, bad bad death.

With any luck, they'll get it in early. LIke, on next Friday. Or like... Thursday.

;_;

That video was just.... beautiful. God damn.

[Peanut]

I guess this means you guys didn't watch the live demo on On The Spot last night?

Gertsman put my mind at ease. He said it's like the first SMB, in that you'll run as fast as you can to beat the level, but keep dying, and you still won't slow down on your next try.

[Mecha Cow]

Way to break the tables there, TMB. :P

And the screenshots really don't do that game justice. Poor Bowser :(
What's the flag though? Checkpoint?

[XERO]

Either way, it was poetry in friggin' motion.

[Peanut]

The music is definately Mario 64. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I would have liked to see some classic remixes of songs. On "On The Spot" I thought I heard the classic Super Mario Bros. 3 song. The one that's in generic levels. I can never really tell, because the sound is usually impossible to hear.

[Kid Icarus]

So, as spectators, what do we want to see in Nintendo's E3 press confrence?

1) Reggie, kicking ass, taking names, and talking about their Wii.
2) Miyamoto showing off his new IP, and talking about their Wii.
3) Iwata spouting off some olmost Yamauchi-like babble about nothing at all, and talking about their Wii.

Oh. And I want to at least hear about a new Kid Icarus. >_>

[Peanut]

I guess. Kid Icarus really wasn't that good of a game. I don't understand why so many people clamour for a new one. Especially considering about 80% of the people who say there should be a new one, probably never even played the first.

As for what I want from the Nintendo Conference.
1) Some wicked sweet trailers for Wii games. I.E. Smash Bros, Mario.
2) Some awesome announcements for the DS.
3) Firm release date for Zelda.
4) Some big surprise to make us all go "OH SNAP!"

[JameO]

Ocarina Controller! Anyways pretty much the same as Peanut, I want to see some people throw it down in Super Smash Brothers!

[XERO]

I want some Battletoads info.

Was TMB lying when they said another one is being considered?:P

[Kid Icarus]

IGN gives New Super Mario Bros. a 9.5, the .5 taken off because the game can be beaten bare-bones in a few hours.

:roll:

[Peanut]

Well, you know how it is. Length means something these days. I don't understand how a 9.5 can be complained about in the first place.

[Kid Icarus]

I'm not complaining, but it seems silly that they would even expect a Mario platformer to last much longer then a few hours.

Yanno. He's an old man now. Endurance isn't quite where it was 20 years ago.

Here we go... the news is starting to roll in.

Time Magazine demos Wii! http://www.planetgamecube.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=28&threadid=15882

Wario Ware Wii is revealed. That's gonna be some crazy gaming right there... It's a must buy.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The game is longer than Super Mario Bros 3. That's long enough for me by a long shot. Just because 2D platformers can be beaten somewhat easily by people of our skill level dosen't mean the game is short. They gave us pleanty of variety. Also, the Mario Bros 3 "Boom Boom fortress battle music" was played when fighting Boswer on the bridge. The Super Mario All-Stars SMB theme was played somewhere but I can't remember when. It's a solid mixture of classic arrangments, and new material. I'm glad for the new material because this seems to be the first new Mario music since SM64 that has good new music (Sunshine's music blew). I know it's good because it got jammed in my skull and I've been humming it since I heard it.

No Benvenuto, I wasn't lying about the new Battletoads. Rare has been dropping hints for eons now, but you know how they are. They love to fu*k with their fanbase. As for the game, we'll see I guess. Just for reference, they dropped hints about Banjo Kazooie 3, and that's about to be confirmed. KI3 also seems to be in the priliminary stages, and that's been hinted at since Banjo-Tooie.

Well, Wario Ware Wii was always a given, but FU*K YEAH anyway. One thing off my list. It's going to be teriffic to see Intelligent Systems do a full fu*ked up console game production of the best new series last gen.

Just a note, I'm not dead. Just dead tired. No sleep in two days. Anyway, this is the last day before the hell week of work begins. I got a new 8 Mega-pixel camera, so I'll take all kinds of pictures for you guys. I'll also try out that new Sonic game for 360 and see if Sega fu*ks it up. There are an assload of DS announcements about to hit the fan, and as for Wii......I think I'll just take a tent and camp out in the booth for keeps. Fu*k PS3. It looks to be appointment only. I saw Nintendo's Trailer caravan outside the expo. They had 15 simi's and that was only setting up the last of their booth crap. They've spent millions to cover the whole downtown LA area with all kinds of Viral Wii marketing and billboards. The floor is being painted with their advertisements, and they're fighting with Sony for the remaining ad space (and outbidding them on most of it). Nintendo's apprently fu*king serious about buying and owning this E3 like no other. They're press conference will be held in the biggest hall of the Kodak theatre, the very same you see the Academy Awards in, and Sony's been kicked out of the Staples Center and back to Sony Pictures Studios where they'll apprently be doing their show in a controlled environment tomorrow afternoon. Pictures of Wii games (and all kinds of other sh*t) will probobly start leaking onto the internet around 1:00AM tomorrow night when the Disclosure agreements run out. Nintendo's still managed to keep it all secret, but that's mostly out of curtosey to them because the unveiling is so close. Everybody (including us) has some exclusive info to unveil about the system, but they would all (me included) would be sued to hell and back if we said anything (I don't know a terrible lot except confirmation of something kickass we've all long suspected would hit with the system. That = good thing. The rest of it is being kept under wraps by one trusted staffer Nintendo likes).

Point of all this is, I can tell now that Nintendo is going to own E3. Peter Moore is throwing childish "Sega-like" insults around. That's a sign of fear. Sony hasn't said a goddamn thing (though expect them to go balistic at their press unveiling with bit announcements, don't expect to be suprised by much).

I guarntee you will not be disapointed this time. Also yes, the runors are true. Twilight Princess has been COMPLETELY overhauled.

[Kid Icarus]

That one thing you mention had better be my damned Pokemon MMORPG.

>_>

Oh, and swag plzkthx ftw?

I got from that first bit, TMB, that you've been hooked up with an advanced copy of NSMB... Lucky guy if you did.

[Hannah]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a181/Dsgamer91/Random/wiiavatar6.gif

[Peanut]

I got from that first bit, TMB, that you've been hooked up with an advanced copy of NSMB... Lucky guy if you did.

Or he could have just read about it. Like I did. ;)

[ThirdMarioBro]

No, I don't have an advance copy. Just sitting here playing a friend's advance copy on my portable speakers. Seriously, you'll cry the first time you play it. It's just so goddamn beautiful. Makes you feel like a kid again, except smarter :D Yoshi's Island just got dethroaned, and I know those are some big fighting words. It's that good.

Best platformer ever. Also, Gametrailers.com will have a live stream of the Nintendo Press Conference free. AMN is thinking of doing it, but there are technical problems. We have the capability to do it, but the server would probobly have a stroke. Just use Gametrailers for that. IGN will not be doing it live, and Gamespot's is subscriber only.

[Peanut]

Gamespot's is subscriber only.

Actually, it was announced on Thursday that Gamespot is showing both Sony and Nintendo live, for free...I thought I mentioned that before, but I guess I didn't.

[ThirdMarioBro]

That's good I guess. Stick with Gametrailers though. They've got HD cameras.

[Peanut]

Nah. Gamespot is better, probably be smoother and easier to use too. I've got access to a Gamespot membership anyways, so I'm going to be seeing it in widescreen HD either way.

Full live coverage from the moment the doors open and even AFTER they close. Gamespot is the only place to be.

[XERO]

Got... to... play... New... Super... Mario Bros...

:dead:

[Peanut]

http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3story.html?sid=6149308&pid=932946

First encouraging article about the Wii. One more day until the big press conference!!!

[Barkworm]

Gwg posted about that yesterday. ;)
Aonuma said that the controller wouldn't be used for Zelda in the way people are expecting. I'd love to know what he thought we expected because sword swinging, bow aiming and fishing is exactly what I expected.

[Mecha Cow]

That stuff sounds really impractical to me. I'll be really pissed if they move it to the...Wii completely. One last GameCube game please.

We'll know for sure tomorrow I guess.

[Barkworm]

That stuff sounds really impractical to me. I'll be really pissed if they move it to the...Wii completely. One last GameCube game please.
About that I found this extremely interesting news bit: In the latest issue of "Nintendo Dream-Magazine" (Japanese Nintendo mag) Nintendo Japan's PR guy Mitsuaki Hagishima said that GameCube is not dead and that there will be several new announcements for it soon.

[Mecha Cow]

I really hope so. The last new release I bought was Super Mario Strikers. x_X

[ThirdMarioBro]

I want that fu*king Kirby game. Gotta' love Hal.

Other than that and Zelda, I'd like a DDR:Mario Mix expansion or something.

[Kid Icarus]

Big big news... pry needs it's own topic.

YUJI NAKA LEAVES SONIC TEAM!

http://www.planetgamecube.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=11425


All I can say is about ****ing time. Now, Nintendo, snach up that studio quick... I know they can outpay Sega.

[Jed]

Could anyone tell me what wireless standard the DS uses? g, a or b? Is there anything I should keep in mind when buying a wireless router, I need it for my laptop and DS?

[Kid Icarus]

802.11b.

Go with a G router though, and avoid A like the freaking plauge.

Checkout http://www.nintendowifi.com for a list of routers that'll work well with the DS.

Oh, and when you *do* hook it all up, make sure all of your firewalls are off.

[Jed]

Thanks!:D Yeah, I checked out my laptop and it uses G, and can also work with B. I'm guessing from that and your post that the DS works with G too, so I'll be sure to get that.

About the hooking it up part; do you mean I should turn off my firewall, then set it up, then I can turn my firewall back on? I use Norton Internet Security 2006 on my desktop and laptop.

[Kid Icarus]

You're gonna have to shut the firewall down on the router, and you might have to turn off your computers firewall.

[Kid Icarus]

New rumor going around that Peanut told me about...

Wii might be comming packaged with Wii Sports and Duck Hunt. Any word on this yet?

[ThirdMarioBro]

I've heard nothing yet. It would be damn good if they did though. I've been hearing a lot of crazy stuff lately.

[Barkworm]

I don't think they would do that. The release games' sale numbers always suffer from bundles. Just look at the DS launch, the hardware sales were great but the software sales not so much, just because of the Metroid Demo and Picto Chat.

[Kid Icarus]

You don't think that also might have been because all but two of the launch games sucked, do you?

NES and SNES sure didn't hurt much from bundled in games. Infact, I think with them targeting the non-gamer market they just might. Wii Sports and Duck Hunt are pretty simple games that pry arn't taking up many resources (My guess is they're making the new code monkeys make them).

[Mecha Cow]

I think bundling the console with Wii sports would be a great move as it would serve as a good introduction to the console. The whole game screams 'Tech demo' anyway, so I can see it happening too.

*E* Thanks TMB. :)

[Peanut]

Yeah, I think Wii Sports needs to be bundled with the console. It's a cool concept and all, but why am I going to go out and pay all that money for a game that looks like a fleshed out tech demo?

The same goes for the orchestra game. I don't see that possibly being a stand alone title, to be honest. Most of the rhythm games you play are made awesome by the cool perphs you get with it, but with this one you're just using the wiimote. Duck Hunt I could see as a full release though. Bundled with the Zapper attachment of course.

What would be really awesome is if they put Super Mario Galaxy and Duck Hunt on the same disc. Then had a little title screen to choose which one you wanted to play when you load it up. :lol:

[愛]

I don't want to deviate from this conversation, but I'm about to do something terrible. I've done terrible things on this forum, but what I'm about to do is beyond anything I've ever done. I'm about to steal everyone's childhood away.

Sorry. I had to do it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue4Bca8DbAQ&search=Koopa)

[Peanut]

Um...I kind of don't know what to say. I guess nothing really needs to be said. We all know, deep down inside, we wish we could have been there.

[Kid Icarus]

TMB shot that at me a couple months ago... good stuff.

Funny tidbit that I noticed...

In the game they have Fire Mario on 1-1 before the second ? box...

EDIT: Oh, olmost forgot. ****ing Gamestop didn't get NSMB in yet. Pricks.

[Peanut]

Same here. Release date was 15th everywhere, but apparently that's the ship date. Really f*cking annoying.

[愛]

Yeah, I hate that. I went to EBgames today after getting lunch, and they said they'd have it tomorrow. It sucks, because I work tomorrow. I guess I'll be playing it at work, then.

[Kid Icarus]

I have to wait to get it until I get off work tommrow. Grr.

No where in town has it... so yeah. Sad sad day.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I have to wait to get it until I get off work tommrow. Grr.

No where in town has it... so yeah. Sad sad day.

*Sits and plays press conference copy.*

:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

I am one evil sonofabitch.

[愛]

So how much swag did you get us, TMB! I must know!

[Kid Icarus]

Did you clip some Wiimotes from their wires for us? Plzkthx?

[ThirdMarioBro]

So how much swag did you get us, TMB! I must know!

Nintendo was about the only company with Swag worth a damn this year, and they made you work your ass off to get it. You had to stand in line for New SMB and beat people in the multiplayer mode to get the swag. Surfice, my old sch00l skillz got you guys some swag, so no worries :D :D

I also got some good Sega sh*t for 'ya too. I don't think anybody would want those PS3 lanyards Sony was handing out (I got a lot collecting PS3 hatred quotes from random people), but if you guys want them, just shout out.

[GK Punk]

I'll take whatever random sawg you got TMB. I just want Swag :lol:

[Kid Icarus]

Heh, i'll take one. It'll be cheaper to burn up them my PS2.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Llolooloz!!!

[愛]

Oh I'll Take Anything From E3!

[愛]

Guys...is it bad that this New Super Mario Bros. is making me hard?

You should've heard the maniacal laugh I did when I got the super mushroom. You just don't even know...my childhood is coming back, and it feels damn good.

[Barkworm]

F*ck this continent, my copy won't arrive before next week.

[Mecha Cow]

*Is actually waiting for the EU release*

...

*Not even sure why*

[Peanut]

Um...NSMB is the best game I've ever played...

[Hannah]

Guys...is it bad that this New Super Mario Bros. is making me hard?
Hahahaha, sig'd!

[Peanut]

I finally got into the warp to World 4. This game is so f*cking awesome. Damn.

[Barkworm]

*Is actually waiting for the EU release*

...

*Not even sure why*
Dude, it's possible to get the game for about 35 Euros including shipping. I can recommend sites if you want. GET IT!!!

[Jed]

Dude, it's possible to get the game for about 35 Euros including shipping. I can recommend sites if you want. GET IT!!!

Please do:D I can't afford it but for future reference (when I actually have money) it'd be great to get them that cheap.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Guys...is it bad that this New Super Mario Bros. is making me hard?

You should've heard the maniacal laugh I did when I got the super mushroom. You just don't even know...my childhood is coming back, and it feels damn good.

Oh, there's nothing wrong with it. It did more than make me hard.

Trashing the whole level with the Mega Mushrooms is so twisted and fun. Also, frying that bastard Boswer's ass in the begenning feels DAMN good.

Best game I've ever played. Period.

[Toonami Tom]

I love the new feature of Bowser's skin melting off when he falls in the lava! Hahahahaha!:D Also, the blue turtle-Mario shell is sweet!

[Mecha Cow]

Bowser dies? :(

[Peanut]

He's dead so far, and I'm on world 5. Each world has a new boss to face. Kind of like Yoshi's Island.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, Boswer smokes it. I'm sure they won't leave it that way for long. Nintendo games aren't supposed to make sense. Get to the end of the game and see what happens.

I love the multiple bosses, and all the Yoshi's Island references. The game is like 30% SMB, 10% Yoshi's Island, 20% SMW, 25% SMB3, and 15% SM64. In other words...

Fu*king perfect.

[ThirdMarioBro]

You notice how the more you play this game, the more it seems like the last Mario platformer came out yesterday, and you feel like you're a seven year old again, back before you gave a damn about gameplay versus graphics and the technical merits of game design? Back you all you cared about was fun?

That's how this game makes me feel. Like a kid again. I love Mario.

[Peanut]

I've noticed that.

Anyways, there is one thing I'm a bit disappointed in. The music isn't as good as I had hoped. The main theme is alright. Nothing special. It plays in just about every "normal" level though, so it's starting to bug me. Definately nowhere near as good as the other Mario platformers.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, personally I fell in love with the theme myself. Humming it nonstop, and can interchance it with the classic stuff. *shrugs*

Until I get home, here are some E3 pics from one of my fellow staffers, Matthew Green. Enjoy.

http://pressthebuttons.typepad.com/photos/e3_2006/index.html

[Peanut]

I just don't feel it has that same kind of "classic" feel as the music in the other games. The game itself certainly has classic Mario feel in SPADES, but the music...I don't know. There's just something about it. It could be that it sounds a little un-inspired. Like the music in Princess Peach.

This isn't to say the music in the game is bad. It's not. I just wish it was as hummable as the other Mario themes. Sitting here right now, I can't remember any of the songs from the game. Much like the songs in Princess Peach. Once I finished playing, I couldn't remember them for the life of me.

[Toonami Tom]

I'm in world 5, I'm getting my @$$ kicked, and my DS light is red. I wonder how long it will be until I run out of power and have to charge my DS. At least I can play while it charges.:) I know Bowser is not dead, Nintendo wouldn't kill him (I don't think).

[Kid Icarus]

O_O

Just...

I want to cry.

So beautiful. ;_;

[Peanut]

Do you like the addition of the wall-kick move? I think it's awesome...until you don't want to use the f*cking thing. I don't know how many times that move has caused me to fall and lose a ton of progress through a level, come close to killing me, or killing me out-right. Everytime I get near a wall and don't want to kick, what happens? PING! Off the wall, into some lava.

The game does get pretty tough as you move along. I'm in World 6 and I've died about 5 times on the castle. Mostly thanks to the wall-kick, though. Sigh. It's not so bad in the earlier levels, but it's a pain in the ass in the castles, where you need some precise jumping and falling to the lava is an automatic death.

Edit: Make that 7 times! F*CKING WALL-KICK!

Edit: OK....F*CK! 15 straight deaths in this castle. Wall-kick deaths = 14 Stupidity = 1

[Toonami Tom]

That sucks, at least you will still be playing though instead of beating it really fast. I hate it when I get to a point where I keep dying though. It sucks big time.

[Peanut]

I got through the castle, but the boss is a b*tch. He's cool though. Neat returning character. ;)

[Toonami Tom]

Is it Bowser? Probably not.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Ain't he ;)

This is rumor as of now, but the creator of Mega Man (I forget his name) claims that Mega Man is comming exclusively to the Wii because making a Mega Man game for PS3 would be costly, slow, and not come out any better than Legends did.

Score another one.

[Peanut]

Nope. Not Bowser. I jumped to conclusions. He wasn't so hard, just a little overwhelming at first when he goes nuts and you don't take in his pattern.

Edit: Really, TMB? F*cking sweet! That's a good sign for those of us who want Mega Man in SSB too! :D

[Kid Icarus]

You know, I can see a lot of developers doing stuff like that. PS3 *is* going to be insanely expensive to develop for, and with the group they're aiming at if the graphics are cutting up some new ground the game's gonna flop.

I could see Mega Man controlling like this: C to jump, B to fire, and either the analog or Dpad to move. Whee.

Or hell, turn the controller on it's side and use it NES style.

[Hannah]

Silver the Hedgehog?!



Goddamnit.

[Peanut]

Okay...mission accomplished, Nintendo. I aksed my mom if she wanted to play the new Mario game. "No. I can't play with all the 3D stuff. It's too hard." "Well it isn't 3D. It's 2D like the old ones." "I can't use all those buttons." "You only need one button!". So I got her to try it. I've now been without my DS for an hour. Her, my dad and my sister are all gathered around the DS, taking turns and laughing like maniacs. Nintendo rules.

[Kid Icarus]

... ****ing hell.

Steal that **** back from them! hurry! >_>

Oh well. My mom played DDR and had a spot in my GCN Animal Crossing town that she played daily for over a month. I'll pry get her hooked on some random DS game.

[Peanut]

I still don't have it back. My dad and my mom are completely into it. Then I broke out about the Wii and all it's features. They thought it sounded cool, and then I showed them the SNES esque pad for it...they freaked out. They told me I better have it pre-ordered for launch. Then said they wanted the DS for themeselves, but I told them they couldn't until the DS lite comes out.

This is pure insanity.

[Toonami Tom]

My Mom beat the original Super Mario Bros, I doubt I could get her to play the New one.

[Kid Icarus]

Damn. That's crazy ****.

Kudos, Nintendo. Kudos.

[Peanut]

Yeah, so my parents finished playing NSMB for the night. I took the DS into my room to charge. I fell asleep for about 10 minutes. I heard some scuffling and woke up. Now I can hear coin sounds coming from their room.

I think my DS just got swiped for good.

[Kid Icarus]

That would be kinda scary to wake up to, though. My DS is talking to me. Shouting, actually. WoW is just talking.

Poor Night Elf Druid... you're not going to be able to kill those stupid birdlady things for a few days.

[CookSux]

I love the multiple bosses, and all the Yoshi's Island references. The game is like 30% SMB, 10% Yoshi's Island, 20% SMW, 25% SMB3, and 15% SM64. In other words...

Fu*king perfect.

more like 25% SMB, 10% Yoshi's Island, 10% SMW, 10% SM64DS, 45% SMB3 :lol:

[Kid Icarus]

My one complaint?

I can't go back to previous worlds.

I took the cannon to world 5 ;_;

[Peanut]

You can go back to world 1 if you took the cannon.
I beat the game last night. World 8 has a cool twist in it. The special "unlockable", The ability to play as Luigi by holding down L and R while selecting a file,really isn't anything of the sort. It's not really a problem that there aren't any little "special" things in the game, it is a Mario game after all. We all know some of those secrets in the previous Mario games didn't come out until a ways down the road, though, so who knows.

[Toonami Tom]

You can go back to previous worlds. All you have to do is touch the world you want on the touch screen map.

You don't have to unlock Luigi, he's there from the start. Just hold down the L and R buttons while selecting a game file. Thanks for telling me about him, I thought I would try it and it worked. I'm a world 6.

[Dr. Doom]

zomg spoiler alert -=emosadface=- =((((((((((((

[Kid Icarus]

Yeah, I figured that out last night. I was like "wait... that's not a map on the bottom screen, those are the worlds! Touch Get!

So yeah. Best Mario game ever? So far Super Mario World still holds that title for me... but I've yet to beat it. I'll give it until my second run through to form a solid opinion on it. The game is beautiful though. Pure game design genius (excluding the ****ing mini-shroom. I can get any other power up easily, except the blue shell and mini-shroom)

[ThirdMarioBro]

I quit trying to choose between New SMB, SMB3, and SMW a long time ago. They're all just the eliete of the gaming world. This game is so damn worthy.

Btw Gwg, I love your new name.

[Kid Icarus]

It's ****ing awesome, huh? Goes with the sig and avatar, too. And as more pics come out, I'll be making some changes to the avatar/siggy. Good times.

I did find a picture from Japan of the Kid Icarus game that might get used. Pit's done a hell of a lot of growing up LOL

[Toonami Tom]

That damn mole boss keeps kicking my @$$ in world 6! Ahhh!

[Peanut]

You don't have to unlock Luigi, he's there from the start. Just hold down the L and R buttons while selecting a game file. Thanks for telling me about him, I thought I would try it and it worked. I'm a world 6.

Yeah, I know. That's why I said it was nothing of the sort. It sucks the game doesn't save as him though. Everytime you want to play you have to hold down L and R and push A. Kind of disappointing, but at least the option is there.

And yeah, lolz. That Monty Mole is a b*tch.

[ThirdMarioBro]

It's ****ing awesome, huh? Goes with the sig and avatar, too. And as more pics come out, I'll be making some changes to the avatar/siggy. Good times.

I did find a picture from Japan of the Kid Icarus game that might get used. Pit's done a hell of a lot of growing up LOL

Yeah, I'd say he has....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/P_V_P.jpg

:lol:

[Toonami Tom]

Yes!!! I just killed that ****ing mole! Woohoo!:) :) :) :) :D

[CookSux]

Yes!!! I just killed that ****ing mole! Woohoo!:) :) :) :) :D

Yeah... just jump on him. Don't bother with those bob-ombs

[Kid Icarus]

I was gonna save up and have a Master Sword made, but **** that. I wanna get a copy of Pits bow-sword thing. a Sworw? A Bword? I dunno. It's cool as hell though, and I want one.

[Peanut]

So, I had a nap earlier tonight. I wasn't feeling too well. I woke up about 2 hours ago and I just noticed...my SNES is gone. Upon further investigation, I've come across it...IN MY PARENTS ROOM! They stole my SNES! What's the world coming to!?!

[Kid Icarus]

O_O

What the ****? You're making this all up, right?

The hell how'd you manage to turn your parents into gamers... and with taste even? Christ!

[Peanut]

My mom and dad used to love the NES back in the day. Super Mario Bros. 1 and 3, along with Dr. Mario were some of the family favourites. They're totally into it again. Nintendo made games fun again!

[The Stryker]

I know the feeling man.

My mother and Animal Crossing have a sick relationship now

[ThirdMarioBro]

You're right. Nintendo has made games fun again. I've waited for this day to come for so damned long. My Mom has fallen in love with her DS, and they're nagging me to put the N64 back in the living room to tide them over until the Wii comes out.

I'm so happy right now. Nintendo's scheme worked. Ladies and gentlemen, it's 1986 again.

Think about it. People can play video games with their families again, Duck Hunt returneth as a possible pack in, Pit is back, Metroid, Mario, and the fu*king Zapper. All on a Nintendo system with a front loading drive bay.

It's 1986, and I'm happy.

[ThirdMarioBro]

God I can't quit playing New SMB. It's a drug. I've beaten it almost twice now. Crack, pot, and weed with an italian accent.

I LOVE THIS GAME!!!!!!!

[Barkworm]

Shut up! My copy hasn't even been shipped, yet... :cry:

[ThirdMarioBro]

Nintendo of Europe sucks.

[GK Punk]

They NEED to do a Metroid in the NSMB style. badly

[Barkworm]

What happened to Metroid Dread, dammit!

[GK Punk]

That's what I'm wondering.

[愛]

They should just keep making the GBA-type Metroid games. I'll keep buying them.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I wouldn't count them out yet.

[Dr. Doom]

So, uh...

How'd you guys miss this one?

http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3story.html?sid=6149721&pid=933012

It wasn't at e3, but it seems liek something TMB (at the very least) would have mentioned.

[GK Punk]

I could swear that was talked about here already.

[Dr. Doom]

I guess I wouldn't be suprised, considering how shocked I am that nobody's mentioned it.

[GK Punk]

:lol: Yeah. It looks really cool though.

[Barkworm]

That's probably the last game I'll ever play on my Cube. I want it now!

[Dr. Doom]

I'm gonna go out with Twilight Princess ^_^

[Kid Icarus]

That'll be the last Cube game I buy, but I'll pry end up playing it on Wii more.

And Twilight Princess might as well just be a Wii launch title. The controlls are going to be better, the graphics and sound are going to be better...

What they should do, of course, is just package both of the games together.

[Peanut]

We did talk about it in the E3 thread. I beat Barkworm to posting it, I believe. :D

Anyways, I'm kind of torn on Zelda. I want to play it with the traditonal style more than with the Wii controller, but Wii will have sharper graphics and perhaps some other perks. I don't know what to do!

[Mecha Cow]

Super Paper Mario looks incredibly halfassed, sorry to say. I'm sure it'll play fine, but you can tell they quickly wanted to make one last 'Cube game.

I'm in the same boat, Peanut. I'm probably going to end up buying both versions. x_X

And Tru...Err, Icarus, here (http://www.smashbros.com/en/characters/chara2/img/photo_main.jpg) is a new picture of Pit if you're still looking.

[Peanut]

I agree. It does look half assed. Paper Mario was never the most visually amazing game as it was, but with such an awesome battle system, that's forgivable. Now that it seems like the battle system has been tossed in favour of a 2d side scrolling mechanic, they should have done something to spice it up. It looks ugly and bland.

Who knows. Cheap cash in or another great Mario title? We won't know until we hear more I suppose. Although, at this time, I'm leaning towards the former.

[Barkworm]

I think the game looks incredibly unoriginal but I'm just happy about the fact that I'm getting a side scroller for a home console. How many years has it been?

[Toonami Tom]

I hope they make a 2nd New Super Mario Bros game.:)

[ThirdMarioBro]

Okay, let's break it down.

Twilight Princess on Gamecube
-------------------------------
Wasn't at E3, but I played it at a Nintendo after party. Pretty much exactly what you'd expect. Wind Waker setup and all that.

Twilight Princess on Wii
-------------------------------
For the first five minutes you play it, it's hell. After that, it all clicks and you're in heaven. The control is VERY different from the Gamecube version, even though the games are identical in every way, altough the Wii version runs at a higher resolution and has no framerate issues according to Nintendo (not a big deal on Gamecube, trust me). There are no texture difference between the two versions. Just better resolution. The walking and Z-Targeting is handled with the nunchucku, and the sword slashing is on the A-button on the remote. You want to do a spin? Yank the remote back and right. Want to do a shield shove to stun the enemy? Yank the nunchucku around. Hookshot? Point ad shoot, simple as that. It's hard as hell to discribe, I know. Imagine writing a damned writeup on how a Wii game works (ugh), but trust me, the Wii version is superior. The controls wern't half-assed. They really planned this out, and it works, but the two games are IDENTICAL in terms of content.

Hell, the fishing is so good, you could sell it on that alone, but the whole Wii version maintains that level of high control all the way through, even in boss fights. It works. Just don't expect to pick up and get into it immediately. You gotta take time to adjust to the setup. I had booth babes helping me get the controls down fast in the time limit I had to play, but it'll take you longer. It's worth it though.

I'm going to buy both, but if can only get one, get the Wii version.

I know, that's a complete 180 of what I was saying a few months ago, but it's true. Wii for the win.

[愛]

I wanna pet my Wii when I finally get it.

.....NO, NOT LIKE THAT, YOU PERVERTS.

[Kid Icarus]

Don't worry Ai, we all know the truth!

And that's that we'll all be petting our Wiimotes when we finally can get our hands wrapped around them.

[Peanut]

Dude, I can't wait to play with my Wiimote while pausing SSB and checking out the Zero Suit Samus model.

[Toonami Tom]

Umm....

Games I am looking forward to on Wii:

1. Super Mario Galaxy
2. Super Smash Bros
3. Red Steel
4. Donkey Kong (Maybe, it depends on what it's like)

[愛]

And now...for an awesome video. Thanks to Ryona for finding it!

http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/472.html

[Kid Icarus]

That was the nerdiest thing EVER.

Wrose then the fact that they're actually in an acapella group.

Just for Spitfire, http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1148072133

Devil May Cry might not be staying as a Playstation exclusive title.

[Peanut]

:lol: Why doesn't Sony just close up shop and shift all their focus to TV's.

[Barkworm]

Simple. Because their TVs aren't making any money. The Video Game branch is the only thing that's keeping them alive. :lol:

[Kid Icarus]

.... not for a hell of a lot longer.

And actualy, their movies and music departments arn't to shabby either.

[TMNTerminator]

And now...for an awesome video. Thanks to Ryona for finding it!

http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/472.html

Wow..that was actually pretty great...now, i've seen it all....

[ThirdMarioBro]

I think I know what that is. Saw it a year ago. Funny stuff, and they are actually quite good.

[Kid Icarus]

Chalk up another 3rd party on board with Wii...

Epic and Nintendo are in talks, apparently, to bring a game to Wii. Epic makes the Gears of War series, for those of you like me who don't know who the **** this company is.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I know who they are. Met them at E3. Masters of the Unreal 3 engine. Gears of War was farking fun.

Anyways, this is big. They were the main haters of the Wii a year ago, and now they're getting on board too. This is crazy.

*edit*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFQz98jAcg8

Here's what I had to go through to get my hands on the Wii at E3. Now, imagine that stampede of around 8,000 people going on for a good thirty minutes, and the line wrapping clean around the Sony booth. Everybody who went into the West Hall was going stright to the Wii booth, and running like hell. At one point, I yelled "LOOK, IT'S MIYAMOTO!!!" and pointed away fro the line. About twenty dumbasses fell for it and I cut a good fifteen minutes off the wait. :lol:

Dirty? Yes, but tough. Two guys got stampeeded at the door of West Hall, so I claim whatever is necessary should be done.

[Barkworm]

Today Nintendo Europe announced that the DS Lite will cost €150. Yeehaw! Once again we get screwed. I wanted to buy one but now they can keep it.

[Mecha Cow]

That's the same price as the regular DS isn't it? What price were you expecting? :ohwell:

At least we get an exclusive black version! I'm not in a hurry to get one, but I'll buy it eventually.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Nintendo...always screwing the European gamer.

That sucks. The reason it sucks is because over here it's $129.95. NoE assholes.

[Peanut]

$149.99 up here in Canada. Same as the normal DS. I wouldn't care if it was $50 more expensive. I'd still get it. I NEED IT!

[Barkworm]

I simply don't see why the rest of the world has to pay the same price as the usual DS but we have to pay 20 bucks more. I'm not getting it till the price drops.

[ThirdMarioBro]

You do. The thing is amazing in person. As bright as an LCD TV.

http://www.smashbros.com/en/main.html

Go here. Wonderful information, and shows just how close Smash Bros Brawl came to not existing.

[Spitfire]

I simply don't see why the rest of the world has to pay the same price as the usual DS but we have to pay 20 bucks more. I'm not getting it till the price drops.
Why not just import it from some where cheaper. Find a place with a sale and buy it there. Or get it off Ebay. Since the DS isn't region locked it doesnt matter.

[Barkworm]

Add shipping costs and we're back at the old price.

[Spitfire]

Add shipping costs and we're back at the old price.
Yeah I was thinking about that, and that's when Ebay sounds like the best choice.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I think import fees would wind up being more, but I may be wrong due to the fact that foreign import fees may be less than those inforced by the bloody US government. Barkworm?

[TMNTerminator]

Im actually pretty excited about the Lite. I've been going back and forth b/w the DS & PSP and finally after looking at the prices and games i had basically decided on DS..when I saw they were coming out with the Lite, i was completely sold. i've NEVER been a handheld gamer but this system looks like it just might be able to turn me into one...

[Peanut]

As an owner of both, I would say you made the right choice. The DS will offer you games the PSP could only dream of having.

[Spitfire]

Plus PSP seems to have less games produced for it. That or their less known. And most games I have seen for it are bad ports of console games. Like Marvel Nemesis.

[Peanut]

The cost of development for the PSP is higher, that's why the DS gets more games. Plus developers are going to have a bigger and more varied audience on the DS. Even GTA bombed on the PSP, which shows you how little success some of the lower tier games are going to get on it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I feel the DS is going to have a looooong happy lifespan. We're talking old school Game Boy lifespan here. The system is just that good.

[Kid Icarus]

Peanut hit it on the head with the development fees.

Why spend $2,000,000 developing a handheld PSP title for a userbase nearly a third of the DS's, which the same game will cost you around $1,000,000 to make?

And the brilliant thing? Nintendo can still charge their high liscensing fees and get away with it, so long as their system remains popular and cheap to develop for.

That article on Smabro is awesome. He just become one of my favorite developers to read about.

[TMNTerminator]

As an owner of both, I would say you made the right choice. The DS will offer you games the PSP could only dream of having.

Yea that what it seems...im getting pretty pysched about it getting it...

its a bit weird for me how this conversion has slowly come over me...i mean, b4 last Christmas, i had only played PS & PS2 for the last few years and absolutely knew i'd be getting a PS3 when it came out...then i get the Cube for Christmas and start smashing away at Prime and now Wind Waker (with RE4 waiting in the wings)...i then dusted off the old the 8-bit and have started up a season in Super Tecmo Bowl and playing some Ninja Gaiden in b/w..now Im looking forward to getting the DS and at this point it seems like a forgone conlclusion that I'll be getting a Wii before PS3!!! I don't know if yall can understand what im tryin to say here, but in just the course of a year (last christmas to the coming holiday season) my whole gaming world has been/will be flipped upside down...and it seems ive come full circle back to Nintendo...whodathunkit...

[Kid Icarus]

Satoru Iwata, that's who ;)

Welcome back by the way.

Some more Cube games that you might have missed out on...:

Tales of Symphonia
Viewtiful Joe (GCN > PS2)
Animal Crossing
Donkey Konga
Eternal Darkness (for the love of all that's holy, you NEED this game)
Zelda: 4 Swords (dont' expect to take advantage of the multiplayer... but the single player's pretty well balanced out)
DDR: Mario Mix

And, of course, Super Smash Bros. Melee. If you don't own that game, you shouldn't own a Gamecube.

I hear Baten Kaitos is good... I own it, just haven't gotten a chance to play it yet.

[TMNTerminator]

Thnx!

Yea, I've heard good things about Eternal Darkness and Tales...and Zelda 4 swords...I was actually thinking about picking up Super Smash after i finsih RE4...Paper Mario is pretty good too right?

[Peanut]

Paper Mario is amazing, definately one of the best Cube games. Also try out Super Mario Sunshine and even Luigi's Mansion. Two games that took way too much flak. They're both really really fun, no idea why they got such a bad wrap. The Pikmin series is another awesome one to check out, really cool premise in that game. There's also Star Fox Adventures (another one that took a bad wrap), and if you dig Star Wars, look into the Rouge Squadron games. There's a ton of gold on the Cube, you just need to look for it.

[Kid Icarus]

The original for N64's much better... I didn't really like the new one much.

[TMNTerminator]

Cool...good to hear about Paper..

yea, I have Sunshine...i actually bought it for my wife to play (my oringinal excuse for getting the Cube in the first place!)..i havent played it yet but have seen her trying to make her way around...seems like a pretty cool game too...

[ThirdMarioBro]

And if you want the best racing game ever made, look no further than the highly underappriciated F-Zero GX, co-developed by Nintendo and Sega.

[Peanut]

The original for N64's much better... I didn't really like the new one much.

You're f*cking insane! :cry:

[Kid Icarus]

Blame that dumb tree towards the begining of the game with the damn little bug things that keep falling off platforms, making me go back to the start of the level and work my way through again and again.

>_>

So, more Wii talk...

People on the Planetgamecube forums brought up a pretty interesting point regarding price.

Casual gamers arn't going to want to have to buy extra controlers, attachments, or VC controlers... So we're looking at Nintendo possibly having to include 2 each of Wiimotes, analog attachments, and VC controlers.

I think Wii isn't going to be so cheap anymore.

[XERO]

And if you want the best racing game ever made, look no further than the highly underappriciated F-Zero GX, co-developed by Nintendo and Sega.

GOD, I miss that game! :cry: :cry:

[Dr. Doom]

Too bad GX ruined all the excellent music.

[Spitfire]

Casual gamers arn't going to want to have to buy extra controlers, attachments, or VC controlers... So we're looking at Nintendo possibly having to include 2 each of Wiimotes, analog attachments, and VC controlers.

I think Wii isn't going to be so cheap anymore.

The most a remote will cost is 30. So what 230? That's still cheaper then a PS3 and a 360.

[Barkworm]

I think import fees would wind up being more, but I may be wrong due to the fact that foreign import fees may be less than those inforced by the bloody US government. Barkworm?
Well, import fees here are really high, too. All the DS Lites I saw on import sites are always at least 199.

EDIT: Read this interview with Michel Ancel: http://revolution.ign.com/articles/709/709614p1.html
It seems like the guy is having the time of his life, developing this game. This should be good!

[愛]

199? That's F'n outrageous. I don't fully understand why it's so much more for the Europeans.

[Barkworm]

I think if you guys imported a DS Lite from Japan it would be the same. Import taxes are expensive.

[Kid Icarus]

The most a remote will cost is 30. So what 230? That's still cheaper then a PS3 and a 360.

I dunno. I could see it being 40. There's a lot of technology in that little remote, not to mention the two forms of wireless in it (IR and Bluetooth)

Then the two analog sticks, and two of the VC controllers. Like I said, the casual gamers arn't going to be as willing to go out of their way to buy more attachments.

It still should come out to be less then a 360 though. Maybe they'll have two setups. Seems like everyone and their dogs are doing that now. One with all the extra controllers and Wii Sports, and another one with just two controllers and Mario... If Wii Sports isn't a pack in it's going to be a budget title. No way are they going to be able to charge full price for that.

[Spitfire]

I dunno. I could see it being 40. There's a lot of technology in that little remote, not to mention the two forms of wireless in it (IR and Bluetooth)

Then the two analog sticks, and two of the VC controllers. Like I said, the casual gamers arn't going to be as willing to go out of their way to buy more attachments.

It still should come out to be less then a 360 though. Maybe they'll have two setups. Seems like everyone and their dogs are doing that now. One with all the extra controllers and Wii Sports, and another one with just two controllers and Mario... If Wii Sports isn't a pack in it's going to be a budget title. No way are they going to be able to charge full price for that.
Yeah your right, the damn 360 controllers are 50! No 4 player games for awhile for me I guess O_O

[TMNTerminator]

Not to get off topic here, but i often see reference to "casual gamer" on here...such as casual gamer wont want this or do this or whatever...i can obviously get the idea of what a "casual gamer" is but I just wanted to know how yall considered it (i.e amount of time spent, systems owned, etc.- whatever's important)

[Peanut]

I don't even think it depends on hours spent gaming, or even systems owned. Casual Gamer is such a corporate term anyways. I don't enjoy using it, but it does get the point across rather well.

Really, casual gamers are the dudes who just straight up go buy whatever console is the coolest and play all the big games they hear about it. They don't go to Gamespot or IGN and look up games. They don't go into EB on a regular basis, if it all. They won't try a new game concept. They go for the brands and not the experience. Case in point, 50 Cent Bulletproof and 25 to Life being huge sellers. They're complete garbage. Meanwhile you have an amazing game like ICO getting no love at all. All of the "hardcore gamers" and gaming press totally dug that game, but because the Playstation has such a large "casual gamer" fanbase, it sold like complete trash. They do these things because they don't know/care about videogames as more than a passing form of entertainment.

And GWG, I don't see them packaging a million things in with the Wii. Nintendo has never been known one to do something like that, and I doubt they'll start now. There will probably be special bundles at places like EB and Wal-Mart where you get 2 controllers and a 2 games along with the console for a special price, but that won't be Nintendo's doing.

I'm guessing the basic Wii package will pan out as such.

Nintendo Wii Console
1 Wii Remote with Analog Attachment
1 VC "Classic" Controller
Wii Sports (Pack-in)

However, I can see bundles coming out of big retailers that look like this.

Nintendo Wii Console
2 Wii Remote's with Analog Attachments
1 VC "Classic" Controller
Wii Sports (Pack-in)
1-2 Wii games

I also don't picture the analog attachment being sold seperatly from the Wii Remote. It just doesn't make sense. $30-$35 USD for a Wii Remote and attachment is my bet. There's also really no logical reason for them to make you buy more than one of the "Classic" controllers. There really is no reason for them to make you even buy one at all, as Gamecube controllers will work with the Wii anyways. The VC controller may not even be included in the package when you buy the console.

[ThirdMarioBro]

^I needn't say anything more. I think you hit it on the head Peanut.

but I have been hearing that they plan to sell the classic controller sepretately (which blows ass chunks).

[Barkworm]

I guess that's why Sakurai said that we shouldn't get rid of our GC controllers yet.

[TMNTerminator]

Thnx Peanut..that makes sense...:)

[Dr. Doom]

Maybe the GC Controller can control the classic games?

[Spitfire]

Maybe the GC Controller can control the classic games?
I dont see why not, it has the same buttons, just the only games I see it not working on are games like Red Steel.

[TMNTerminator]

Maybe the GC Controller can control the classic games?

Yea that would be cool...im sure it could work for most (if not all) games

[Peanut]

It'll work for all games. I'd bet anything on that.

[Ryona]

Hi hi.
I came across these today and totally loved them. I'm sure you guys will enjoy them too. :)

Super Mario Bros. Z

Part 1
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/308690

Part 2
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/314226

[愛]

So funny and so awesome. I really like the animation in these. The DBZ music at the end always cracks me up, because it reminds me of the days I used to watch DBZ on Toonami and there was always like, 20 minutes of talking followed up by that music. :lol:

[Peanut]

Really great use of sprites in those! Thanks, Ryona. Very enjoyable. That remix SMW theme in the beginning is amazing. Anyone know where I can find it?

[Kid Icarus]

The NES came with what, 4 diffrent SKU's?

2 controllers, deck, no games
2 controllers, deck, Zapper, Mario/Duck Hunt
2 controllers, deck, Zapper, Mario/Duck Hunt, ROB and one of his games
2 controllers, deck, floor mat, Mario/Track & Field

Correct me if I'm wrong, TMB.

I could see this sucker comming in a few diffrent versions with all the stuff included pictured on the boxes, ala NES (after all, the whole system seems to be trying to take gaming back to that. lets hope it works).

[Peanut]

This is a completely different time. It's just not going to happen anymore. I could be wrong, of course, but I don't see it happening.

[Kid Icarus]

yeah.... but it would be nice.

Some minor news... not sure if I should post about it in the movies thread or not.

The Wizard, the largest Nintendo commercial ever made (what? huh? it's really a movie? Psht.) is comming to DVD.

[愛]

What the hell is that? I feel like I should know it. Explain!

[Barkworm]

No Dolby Digital for Wii. (http://revolution.ign.com/articles/709/709823p1.html)

[TMNTerminator]

Wow, that was pretty Ryonna...thnx! :D

[Kid Icarus]

The lack of Dolby digital is really pretty moot.

My Gamecube sounds just fine with PL2.

[Kid Icarus]

What the hell is that? I feel like I should know it. Explain!

The Wizard is a movie(coughcommercialcough) about two brothers who travel to California to play in the Nintendo World Championships. They meet the lead singer from Rilo Kiley on the way, before she started that band, and they have fun talking about Zelda on top of a motorhome.

They get to the championships, get to finals, and then we have the worlds first look at Super Mario Bros. 3... seemingly the entire point of making the movie in the first place.

[Peanut]

YEAH! That movie rules! And then to dude finds the whistle and everyone is like "OH SNAP! THIS KIDS GOT MAD SMB3 SKILLZ! LOLOMG!"

[ThirdMarioBro]

You kidding me Gwg. The Wizard......is comming to DVD.........omg. :o

So, let's see. We have the SMBSS already out on DVD, Captain N in the wings, the Wizard comfirmed, and Pit in Smash Bros.



I think I'm going to have a fan stroke. This is all impossible, yet it's all true. :lol:

[愛]

I know that movie now. That was CRAZY! I so wanna get it. :D

[TMNTerminator]

Hmm..not sure if i've seen it or not....sounds pretty sweet though!

[DrSpengler]

Man, I haven't seen that movie in over 10 years. I'll be picking it up on release day.

...when is the release day, anyhow?

[Mecha Cow]

Is the Mario Bros. movie available on DVD? I've been looking for it for ages.

You heard me, I love that movie and I'm not afraid to admit it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

It is on DVD.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=986&topic=28278468&page=0

The rumor that sony will lock PS3 games to the systems continues to presist.

PS3 can go to hell, but you already knew that.

[TMNTerminator]

Wow..that would COMPLETELY suck!! I didn't even know though they could do such a thing...i buy almost all of my games used (unless its the rare title I HAVE to have on release day: GTA, MGS)...Sony is starting to hurt big times in my eyes, even more than b4...

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah. Wii60 for the win.

[Kid Icarus]

Used games don't get Sony those liscense fees they need to keep in the clear.

Could you guys imagine if Sony dropped this bomb at E3 too? They'd have no fans left. None.

[Peanut]

LOLOMFG! It's almost as if Nintendo and Microsoft were all like, "Yo, Sony! Together our new consoles are gonna bury you, son!" and then Sony just took the shovel and said, "It's cool, guys! We'll do it ourselves!". *SMILEY FACE*

[Spitfire]

I was reading this Game Informer I got for free when I traded in a bunch of games and they had 360 on one page and on the next PS3 and Wii next to each other. In quotes it said this under each of them
360 "This console already has the momentum, Microsoft just needs to steer it in the right direction"
PS3 "For many people, Playstation has become synonymous with video games"
Wii "I fear that many Revolution titles will feature the same standard gmaeplay with a few motion senor gimmicks"

The article about the Wii was pretty much bashing the Gamecube and N64 saying it has crappy 3rd party support and then says that them getting it for the Wii is too little to late.

Do they get paid to bash Nintendo? Or are they just helpless Sony fanboys?

[Kid Icarus]

This is why Game Informer is generally regarded as utter crap.

Oh, and it's good you got that for free. I'd have to cyber-slap you if you actually took out a video game magazine subscription with all the free info that's out on the net.

[愛]

I used to be subscribed to that awful magazine. It gives terrible information, and biased opinions. I'm glad you got it for free, too. I also used to subscribe to Playstation Magazine. That was back when I really loved Playstation games. Now it's all about Nintendo Power.

[Spitfire]

The only game mag I ever had that was paid for was Gamepro, back when the N64 and PS1 were out. Then my grandparents kept re-newing it every year for two years at a time! I ended up getting it every month until just about a year ago when they finially stopped. That mag went to crap! I also used to get Tips And Tricks but that was free and I actually liked that mag. It was funny to read and they weren't A-holes about what they had in it.

I've gotten Game Informers before for free. Everytime you get a Gamestop card they give you a free year. So I got a year of this crap to look forward to. Those 2-faced jerks! The issue right after the one they bash the Wii in is all about the Wii and how awesome they say Red Steel looks -_-

[Kid Icarus]

Nintendo Power's still a bit on the sucky side... Now if they'd start tossing in a demo disc or two every now and then...

[Peanut]

Wii won't exceed $250 USD! WEEEEEEE!

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6151827.html

[ThirdMarioBro]

It better not exceed $200.

[愛]

lolz that is awesome. Finally, a console that everyone can afford and have fun with the whole family. It's like back in the day...only NES was like, $300. :ohwell:

[ThirdMarioBro]

Say hello to the latest post-E3 poll, this time from Famitsu, judging Japanese next-gen interest following E3. Hold on to your butts.

What game are you most interested in?
1. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii, Nintendo)Wii
2. Final Fantasy XIII (PS3, Square Enix)
3. Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3, Konami)
4. Dragon Quest Swords (Wii, Square Enix)
5. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii, Nintendo)
6. Super Mario Galaxy (Wii, Nintendo)
7. Final Fantasy III (NDS, Square Enix)
8. Monster Hunter 3 (PS3, Capcom)
9. Resident Evil (Wii, Capcom)
10. Halo 3 (Xbox 360) <--- OMG =O!

What hardware are you looking forward to most?
Wii - 68.8%
PS3 - 21.0%
360 - 7.2%
NDS - 3.0%

What do you think of the price of the PS3?
I think the price is high - 88.4%
The price is okay - 10.9%
The console is cheap - 0.7%[/QUOTE]
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Holy sh*t. Now that was a quick turn-around. Right up the ass Sony. Right up the ass. Maybe your 18-24 age demographic will save you here in the states, oh wait, Xbox 360....n/m

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http://kotaku.com/gaming/top/new-super-mario-ad-full-of-sexual-innuendo-175870.php

Want to see my Warp Pipe?

[愛]

kekekekekekekekeke

That was amazing. :D

[Barkworm]

To be fair, Famitsu isn't THAT representative. I remember a Famitsu poll in which lots of people said they were interested in buying a 360...

[TMNTerminator]

It better not exceed $200.

Yea, im in the same boat there...but I can definately squeeze in 250...overall, great news!

[Peanut]

Hooray!
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6151863.html

http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/2006/144/120x90_reg_4_pres209_screen.jpg