The Nintendo Discussion Thread

[Kid Icarus]

Sin and Punshiment.

That's all I ask for on VC. One simple little game....

[Mecha Cow]

I'm pretty sure Reggie (Or someone else) said that people would be able to download games from different regions. Not sure if that would include Japanese games as well, but at least it's good news for us Euros. So you'll probably be able to download Doshin, Peanut, since it came out here in Europe (It got poor reviews though).

[ThirdMarioBro]

Meh, I'll judge its content for myself. Frankly, my cartridges will be treated solely as collector's items if this new virtual distribution system works out well, and we are treated fairly. We would never have to worry again about the cartridge pins wearing out, or the stickers wearing off, or all that crap our NES's put us through.

[Kid Icarus]

If I can get the NES, SNES, and N64 games at higher resolutions, they're sold.

I can't play my N64 anymore because of it's horrible resolution... and now I bet it'll be even worse going back after being spoiled by my PC.

Edit for new thought:

I was reading some post on Planetgamecube's boards, when it dawned on me.

Nintendo, having multiple controller colors on Gamecube, was pry one of the best design ideas of the system. Why?

If you notice the plug matches the controller, and they had four diffrent colors here in the US (well, five if you count the clear/indigo) you could have four diffrent colored controlers for each of the four slots making it easy to tell which controller was for which player.

BRILLIANT.

Thankfuly they kept this idea with Wii and the player number lights on the Wiimote.

[Peanut]

http://wii.ign.com/articles/716/716000p1.html

I hope to God this is the case everywhere. If Nintendo decides to go with this idea, I'll be buying a lot more than I ever would having to use a credit card.

[Kid Icarus]

As long as it's not an online type currency.

[Peanut]

As long as it's not an online type currency.

Huh? What's that supposed to mean? If you mean not like Microsoft Points for XBL, then you're insane, because it's awesome.

[Kid Icarus]

As long as I can choose the exact ammount to be put into the online 'token' thing, it'd be okay I guess...

but I don't want to ever run into a situation where I only need $1 to get a game, but I have to put a minimum of five into the account.

[Mecha Cow]

Are any other Euros having problems with the Star system on Nintendo's website? It says my NSMB code is invalid, and I wasn't able to register Luigi's Mansion either.

...Not that you can actually use the Star points for anything good, but still.

[Dinny]

Are any other Euros having problems with the Star system on Nintendo's website? It says my NSMB code is invalid, and I wasn't able to register Luigi's Mansion either.

...Not that you can actually use the Star points for anything good, but still.

They normally put in some good stuff come Christmas. Gamecubes, DS's, Micros and many games (mostly Metroid games) have been put up in the past. I've never had a problem with it myself.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Kojima Calls Wii a Thing of the Past June 30, 2006

by: Phillip Levin

The creator of Metal Gear Solid refers to the system as an old telivision in an age of home theaters.

While as of late, Nintendo fans have become cozy to hearing mostly praises from developers and publishers for Nintendo’s new-gen console, Wii, there are still comments from other developers who think less of the console. Take, for instance, Metal Gear Solid creator Hideo Kojima. Talking to Japan’s Ge-Maga this week, the famous video game creator referred back to an E3 interview where he called Wii a thing of the past.

“The PS3 is a movie theater. You pay 1,800 yen and view a movie with great sound and a huge image,” Kojima said. “These aren't movies that are remade directly from television, but video that's been made for the movies, and everyone comes wanting that. Xbox 360 is watching a DVD at home. It's for people who want to watch a movie, but anything is okay. The Wii is a television program. You turn on the television, and you can watch soccer or watch a variety show -- enjoy a program lightly.”

This week, he talked more on the subject, saying, “If you think about the future of the industry and game creators, I get the feeling that the winner had better be the movie theater -- or, the PS3. No one will say that the price is cheap. However, the PS3 is 'the future.' The Wii is interesting, but in terms of functions, it's a machine with past concepts.”

Despite Kojima’s strong preference in PlayStation 3, he’s still been one of Wii’s biggest supporters. “The best thing would be a PS3 with controls like the Wii."

On another subject, Kojima jokingly asked Tetsuya Nomura why Cloud wasn’t in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, to which Nomura replied with a laugh, “We didn’t get an offer.”

source: Ge-Maga and IGN

Double talking dick. Oh well, I guess he got his character is Brawl, now he can slam it all he wants. Kojima shows his true colors. Pwetty graphics are more important to him than gameplay. Then again, we always knew he was one of those nerds who wants movies and games to merge. MGS (though a damn good game, I don't contest that) is in reality just a few steps above Sega Saturn FMV movies, but with some actual game action.

MGS = 4/10 gameplay, 6/10 interactive movie. That's one for the graphics whores out there.

[Dr. Doom]

-=Punches TMB in the face=-

[Kid Icarus]

Metal Gear Solid sucks.

Kojima had still better be giving us something fun to play at least.

It's also funny... how many people own a home theatre system compared to a TV? How many pepole watch TV shows on those home theatre systems too...

[Dr. Doom]

-=Uses TMB as a weapon and beats Trunks to death=-

[Kid Icarus]

/spit

/charge


(MGS still sucks. Kojima should have gone into movies)

[Dr. Doom]

-=War stomp, Frost Shock, Stormstrike, Earth Shock, Windfury proc, kills you, gets honor, PENAUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!=-

[Hannah]

Despite Kojima’s strong preference in PlayStation 3, he’s still been one of Wii’s biggest supporters. “The best thing would be a PS3 with controls like the Wii."
But they've done/tried that already, didn't they? =P

[Dr. Doom]

Her post is dumb because she originally posted a pic of some fat hairy naked guy bending over and I told her to change it.

[Hannah]

Her post is dumb because she originally posted a pic of some fat hairy naked guy bending over and I told her to change it.
:cry: Liar.

[Archon_Turtle]

Something I got from a place that may or may not be my work that I thought you guys would enjoy seeing. It's an old GBA Flash Rom cart for testing builds of games. The place that may or may not be the place I work was throwing them out, so I grabbed one.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/JNCOPosterboy/Random%20Pics/100_1302.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/JNCOPosterboy/Random%20Pics/100_1301.jpg

[ThirdMarioBro]

That is a SCORE!!! Man, I wish you had grabbed more of them. Sweet find.

[Archon_Turtle]

I have a few test type things. I have a GB color test cart, a blue/green test PS1, weird stuff like that

[Dr. Doom]

What the hell are they?

[Kid Icarus]

-=War stomp, Frost Shock, Stormstrike, Earth Shock, Windfury proc, kills you, gets honor, PENAUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!=- Oh, too bad.

My connection lagged right before I died, booting me off the server! :-O

Anyway, those are like official flash carts... think emulation and what not, but these are made by Nintendo for game developers to test their program builds on. Handy little suckers.

[Peanut]

Double talking dick. Oh well, I guess he got his character is Brawl, now he can slam it all he wants. Kojima shows his true colors. Pwetty graphics are more important to him than gameplay. Then again, we always knew he was one of those nerds who wants movies and games to merge. MGS (though a damn good game, I don't contest that) is in reality just a few steps above Sega Saturn FMV movies, but with some actual game action.

MGS = 4/10 gameplay, 6/10 interactive movie. That's one for the graphics whores out there.

No, TMB. MGS isn't a good game. It's a below average movie. MGS is crap and it always will be. Like I've said before, Splinter Cell > MGS for stealth action and the story is pretty much worthless anyways. Kojima is a maniac. We've all known this for awhile.

[DrSpengler]

Double talking dick. Oh well, I guess he got his character is Brawl, now he can slam it all he wants. Kojima shows his true colors. Pwetty graphics are more important to him than gameplay. Then again, we always knew he was one of those nerds who wants movies and games to merge. MGS (though a damn good game, I don't contest that) is in reality just a few steps above Sega Saturn FMV movies, but with some actual game action.

MGS = 4/10 gameplay, 6/10 interactive movie. That's one for the graphics whores out there.

Could you post a source link for that? I want to post the quote at Forver Geek but I need the source, first.

Thanks.

[Dr. Doom]

Words cannot express how much I hate Peanut.

[Peanut]

And I can't express how much I hate ugly metal kids who have my space accounts.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Could you post a source link for that? I want to post the quote at Forver Geek but I need the source, first.

Thanks.


http://wii.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=7083

Have fun.

[DrSpengler]

Thanks, man. I'll post that on Monday (boss don't pay me to update on the weekends!).

[Dr. Doom]

And I can't express how much I hate ugly metal kids who have my space accounts.

Was that supposed to be directed at me? Cause I'm ****ing hot.

[Peanut]

Was that supposed to be directed at me? Cause I'm ****ing hot.

:lol: Fine. Fine. I guess we can erase that comment from the records.

[Jo Dawn]

Was that supposed to be directed at me? Cause I'm ****ing hot.

*swoons in the mere presence of Doom's words*

[Dr. Doom]

-=Poses seductively=-


Also, check this out. Sony likes the PHAT LEWTZ (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3151823).

[Kid Icarus]

My guess? $69.99-$79.99.

Another draw back to Blu-Ray... the discs are expensive to produce. Added onto insanely high development costs... ouch.

[Peanut]

:lol: Wow. Only a stretch for games to be $99.99, and this dude is talking American prices! This is just ridiculous. If the average game player does shell out the ridiculous amount of money for a PS3, how are they even going to afford a game?

I mean, surely Sony is selling this thing at a loss, wouldn't it be better to have games at least on par with 360 titles? If their games are $20 to $30 more expensive, how is anyone going to afford, or even want to buy more than one game at launch, or at any other point for that matter. If they don't make money back on software sales, where are they going to make it!?!

This is where this whole thing smells to me. Since Sony is part owner of Blu-Ray, they'll profit heavily from BD's catching on. I think Sony is just trying to get this whole Blu-Ray vs HD DVD thing over into our market, so they can try and push their format as much as possible, which just makes me sick. It almost seems like this thing was a Blu-Ray player first, and a gaming console last. There is more money in movies than videogames, after all.

[Dr. Doom]

The link about game prices came from Brian Clevenger's latest news post for his wonderful comic 8-Bit Theater (http://www.nuklearpower.com/). I thought I'd post it here, because I found it to be a very intelligent observation of the situation.

I hear things like this (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3151823) and I have to wonder what Sony is thinking.

Their sheer dedication to unbridled optimism for the PS3 is amazing. Really. If scientists could find a way to harness that energy, it'd be the next revolutionary industry to be shut down by Big Oil.

The "business plan" here, and I use the term loosely, seems based on the idea that it's perfectly reasonable to charge hundreds of dollars more than the competitors for an essentially identical product. It would also work in a world of pure fantasy where the PS3 is the only lens through which all media produced by human hands must pass in order to be consumed. And, yeah, if I were the president of Sony, I'd think that was a great world too. I'm not sure that I'd make billion dollar business decisions based on the phantom economics of that fictional world, though. Seems like you'd miss an important thing or two. Like the existence of competing products and the overwhelming presence of multi-platform releases.

I suppose the PS3 in general galls me so much because Sony should know better. They only got into the console biz because Nintendo's company policy used to be, "WE'RE THE KING OF THE WORLD AND **** YOU." It gave the PlayStation room to nest. It then took over the industry as Nintendo took an entire generation to figure out that there were alternatives to its products being sold over the counter.

You'd think what with the seed of Sony's console history being the raw hubris of another party, they'd be hyper-sensative to falling into the same trap themselves.

But no. Instead, Kronos just keeps gobblin' up kids saying things like, "Man, I ever tell you how I got this gig? Hell, maybe later, being King of the Titans is gonna be great forever."

[Kid Icarus]

That was very well put. Kudos to the person who wrote that.

It *is* pretty damn funny that they're doing exactaly what Nintendo did.

EDIT: But at least the N64 was only $199.99 at launch...

[ThirdMarioBro]

Somebody buy me this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb1fUB0FTz4&search=GP2x). Kthxbye.

[Spitfire]

No, TMB. MGS isn't a good game. It's a below average movie. MGS is crap and it always will be. Like I've said before, Splinter Cell > MGS for stealth action and the story is pretty much worthless anyways. Kojima is a maniac. We've all known this for awhile.
I can't say I totally agree with you but I do on some level. I found 3 to be a rather awesome game. But then again 3 is the only one of it's kind in the whole series. And 4 has no promises of being any different then 2.

Let him have his fun being a moron. When his game makes no money cause no one wants a Sh!t-station 3 then he will be begging Microsoft and Nintendo to publish his game.

[Mecha Cow]

Subtle (http://gonintendo.com/?p=3498). :lol:

[Kid Icarus]

Actually, that was a REALLY good move by Nintendo. If he *does* play it, he'll see that not all videogames are Grand Theft Auto.

It's also funny 'cause they think Bush's brain could use it. :lol:

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, I’m picturing a monkey banging on a keyboard, with a DS lite in his mouth…Heh…It’s funny because Our president looks like a monkey…but you knew that…yeah…

:lol:. That sounds about right.

[Peanut]

Was it an insult or were they being serious? :lol:

I'm out until Thursday guys, I'll see you all then.

[TMNTerminator]

Was it an insult or were they being serious?

I was wondering the same thing! :)

[愛]

Yeah, so about the latest Nintendo news....

*hears crickets*

....righto.

[Kid Icarus]

We'll know more at E3! Geeze, just wait for it!

I mean um.

Spaceworld in September FTW?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Summer fu*king sucks. I'm going swimming. 200 Ft. stright drop waterslide FTW.

[愛]

Oh, you're an asshole. I wanna go swimming! I wish I could get a weekend off so I can go to the beach. Beaches are FTW, too.

[Kid Icarus]

I'm so bored that I just watched 20 episodes of Beavis and Butt-head... after a quest spree in WoW.

[愛]

I've been watching Korean drama shows for the past week. I've been bored out of my mind. I wanna die. :cry:

[GK Punk]

I've been watching G1 Transformers on a daily basis. For. The. Win.

[Kid Icarus]

http://www.planetgamecube.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=11799

Gunpey is comming to North America. This game looks freaking sweet... and having been designed by Gunpei Yokoi it's going to be good.

For those that don't know, Yokoi-san created the D-Pad, Gameboy, Virtual Boy, Game and Watch, and played a massive role in the creation of Donkey Kong... and Kid Icraus, Metroid, and TMB's favorite Panel De Pon.

That last game should have each and every single one of you sold on this.

[DrSpengler]

I'll probably get it. Always felt bad for Gunpei Yokoi. Years of history-making service, made one mistake (Virtual Boy), Nintendo gives him a "window seat", he quits in humiliation, gets run-over by a car.

Sucks.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I know. I wanted to shoot the bastards at Nintendo when they punished that genius like that. All of them. Mother fu*kers. Thank goodness Intelligent Systems is still here to carry on the traditions and style he created.

Anyways, anybody who dosen't buy this game will almost undoubtably be missing out on something special. One last game, and a puzzle game no less, from the man who gave us this....

http://www.askalee.com/sfc_gamephoto/sfc_gamephoto_file_n-z/Panel%20de%20Pon%20(J)001.png

This is about as close to a sure thing as I think you can get.

[GK Punk]

He also created Metroid. We can't forget that.

[Kid Icarus]

...aus, Metroid, and TM...

gotcha coverd, GK ;).

This game already came out though. It was a launch title for Gunpei's last hardware device, the Wonderswan.

[Spitfire]

A week ago my friend wanted a PS3 and said he never wanted a 360. I got a 360 and we stayed up all night playing it and I changed his mind. Now he wants a 360 instead. When I get a Wii I'm sure the same thing will happen. I think the main turn on for him is it's PC like so it kinda lures in PC gamers. The Wii has a hardrive too*Right?* or something like that so that might attract PC gamers as well. I don't know if the PS3 has one or not. But if it doesn't then the PS3 is kinda already dead in the water at this point.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The Wii has not proprietary hard drive, but it can use external drives, which imo is better.

[愛]

Throw a 1tb external hard drive on that sucker, and you'll be alright. ;)

[ThirdMarioBro]

Jesus Smurfing Christ, that'll be the day.

[愛]

You mean the day that's already here?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144021

[Brodie]

They should totally release Super Puzzle Fighter for DS. It'd be amazing.

[Kid Icarus]

They released that for the Gameboy Advance, so you can play it on your DS ;).

Picked up Big Brain Academy today along with Street Fighter Aniversary collection for PS2. Whee.

Olmost bought the Penny Arcade book too.

[ThirdMarioBro]

You mean the day that's already here?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144021

YOU'RE SH*TTING ME!!! Damn, I wish I could afford something like that.



I played SF Anniversary Edition at an arcade, and on PS2 last year at the Oklahoma Classic Gaming Exibition, and it was fun for the fifteen minutes it lasted, but it seemed kinda messy. I mean, the novelty of watching CPS1 Guile and CPS2 Guile Sonic Boom each other to death is fun, but technically, the game seemed a mess, and I didn't think the characters truly represented each version well enough. They fixed several glitches in the old characters that made them too similar to the later versions. Although I did really enjoy how Cammy, Dee Jay, Fei Long, and T Hawk had CPS1 renditions of their themes made for authenticity, even though they didn't exist back in those days. It was a cool touch.

Anyways, I'll just stick with Hyper Fighting on 360, if or when that ever comes out. It was the best of the SFII series. I never cared as much for Super, or Super Turbo the way I did for the old CPS1 Street Fighter II versions. Super Moves wern't fleashed out enough until the Alpha series came along. Now that was some sweet sh*t.


I'll die happy when I can play Marvel versus Capcom 2 online.

[Cure]

http://wii.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=7137

I wonder what game it is? Must be good if Nintendo is in such a hurry for it......

[Dr. Doom]

I don't think it's about the game, they just wanna put the system out before PS3.

[Archon_Turtle]

Anyways, I'll just stick with Hyper Fighting on 360, if or when that ever comes out.

Official Release date is August 2nd

[Spitfire]

Alright so I beat Super Mario 2 today...the NES one. Well I beat the one on the All Stars cart. Anyways I get that it was all a dream Mario was having but what the hell else was going on? Who is Wart and what is it he was doing that made Mario have to go stop him? What were those things you free at the end*I would assume something Wart imprisioned* I get some of it but parts are missing O_O

[ThirdMarioBro]

The game was a conversion of Doki Doki Panic. They swapped out the Mario sprites, but not much else. Wart (or whatever his Japanese name was) is the villan in Doki Doki Panic. Doki Doki Panic was a game based off of a Japanese Anime, which Nintendo made in 1986 for the Famicom. I suppose if we could see that anime, we would know the real identity of Wart, the Shy Guys, Birdo, and those little things you rescue at the end.

[Kid Icarus]

Ah.... you played Super Mario 2 USA ;).

The game it's based on is insanely weird... Doki Doki Panic! was a Famicom Disc System game only released in Japan. Basicaly, it goes like this:

Two kids get pulled into a magic book, and an arab family (no idea why they chose arabs) goes into the book to save them.

Crazy stuff.

D'oh, TMB beat me to it.

[Spitfire]

Ah yeah I knew it was a spirte remake but I never knew the orginial was an anime. Weird to think Shy Guys*My favorite Mario enemy* weren't even made for Mario haha.

[Kid Icarus]

More new Pokemon info... game's looking like it *might* shape up...

http://www.4colorrebellion.com/archives/2006/07/12/pokemon-diamond-pearl-magazine-scans/#more-3580

Also, the DS Headset is going to come out four days before Pokemon. The game's going to have VoIP while you're playing the game... I could see this going coop with people on your friends list. So 8 player Pokemon RPG could be fun. "hey, have you caught ____ yet? I'm looking for one still... let me know and I'll trade you ___".

[ThirdMarioBro]

Hey, I'd buy it just for the V-IP if nothing else. That's one plus. I hope the game shapes up. Any pics of the headset yet? I've been out of the loop working on current content and other stuff *coughNintendoversusSegaConsoleWar21WordPagesLong* and haven't had much time to read news.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://wii.advancedmn.com/images/media/zeldatp_042.jpg

*falls into floor laughing uncontroablly*

That's...just.........

*bangs head on desk*

Too...funny.

[DrSpengler]

In regards to "Doki Doki Panic", here's a great site with some compare/contrast screens and info between DDP and Super Mario bros 2 USA.

http://www.themushroomkingdom.net/smb2_ddp.shtml

And here's a list of name differences between Japan and America for Super Mario Bros 2 USA.

http://www.themushroomkingdom.net/smb2_j-e.shtml

[Kid Icarus]

http://wii.advancedmn.com/images/media/zeldatp_042.jpg

*falls into floor laughing uncontroablly*

That's...just.........

*bangs head on desk*

Too...funny.
WTF is that? Tingle's friends? Is Tingle going to be in the game now? I'm confused... my head hurts.

Anyway, BIG news from EA. We're getting SIX original versions of the main franchises on Wii. Madden, Tiger Woods, Harry Potter, NFS, SSX, and The Godfather are all getting unique Wii renditions.

I've never been interested in EA's junk... but hell, there's three games in there that I'm sold on if they can pull them off right. Crazy stuff.

[Peanut]

Dude, I called some kind of Harry Potter magic wand thing waaay back. Looks like EA is really digging the Wii.

[Dr. Doom]

Catherine, ROFL

[Peanut]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/ab3j/character/character02.html

Square is putting some FF characters into Mario Basketball 3 on 3. Got a moogle in there, Black Mage, White Mage, and some stuff I don't know. I really hope Square and Nintendo are getting back on better terms. Besides the fact I'd like to see one of the better FF characters get into SSB:B, I'd also like to see a new Super Mario RPG. Imagine!

[ThirdMarioBro]

I want Cloud in Smash Bros....ya' know, just so I can kick him in the balls or something and post the pic on GameFags.

Oh, and Mario Basketball was FUN AS HELL at E3. Buy it. It's online.

[Kid Icarus]

A new Super Mario RPG would make me wet myself, no joke.

And I'd rather have the main character from Secret of Mana in Smash Bros. He'd be better for it, I think. That or the Sprite... that thing'd be awesome.

[DrSpengler]

There appears to be a third page of characters that they haven't unveiled yet.

More Final Fantasy characters or a set of characters licensed from a different company, you think?

[Dr. Doom]

I'm really looking forward to that game.

[ThirdMarioBro]

You should be. It's 'effing awesome. Dribbling with they stylus seems dumb in theory, but once you start playing the game, its fun as hell. It clicks together, you run, jump, dunk, really dribble, and more. The game just rules, but it's best with other people to play with, and since this sucker uses the Wi-Fi, its a win/win situation.

[Peanut]

But really, what's panned out on Wi-Fi the way we thought it would? Sure, Mario Kart is fun with friends, but it hardly ever works properly with people you want to play with. I think we've done some Animal Crossing about twice, and I've never played MP Hunters, but from the looks of it, no one else does either.

Hopefully this will break the trend, but I'm doubtful.

[Kid Icarus]

Pokemon. That's all WFC's waiting for.

Anyway, news on the Wiimote:http://wii.ign.com/articles/718/718946p1.html

The tip of the pointer contains a megapixel camera. What for? Why? Who knows and why not?

Maybe you could use it to put your face into Wii Sports? That'd be sweet. Or to map your face to a character in Tony Hawk? Or, even better, have a game that tells you to take a picture of something blue, something round, ect. That'd be sweet.

[Barkworm]

I don't like the fact that I'll have to buy batteries. :|

[Peanut]

I'm sure they'll come out with a rechargable battery pack, much like Microsoft did with the 360 controller. Besides, 30-60 hours isn't exactly going to fly by quickly. One pack of batteries for 60-120 hours? That's fine by me, considering the 360 controller eats batteries in 5-6 hours.

And as for the camera in the Wiimote, it's been talked about that those faces Shiggy and the gang used at E3 in Wii Sports might exsist on a profile level for your Wii. Sounds awesome to me.

[Mecha Cow]

They'd be crazy not to release battery packs. I'm sure they will, or I will get angry and write mean stuff online.

Also, the simplified rumble feature is kind of a bummer, but it's not a huge deal. I'm just glad it still has one.

[Kid Icarus]

Really, 2AA batteries run around $3 in the US... with 4 packs only being about five, and it only getting cheaper the more you buy.

Or, here's an idea: Rechargable batteries. :-o.

I'm also digging the battery life indicator light. Good thinking there.

[Peanut]

Me too. I hate being in the middle of a game and my 360 controller dies out and I have no spare batteries on hand. Annoying as hell.

[Kid Icarus]

Lithium Ion batteries are expensive too... Wiimotes are already crammed full of stuff, I can't see Nintendo wanting to up the cost anymore.

Edit, more Pokemon news: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXqZ8TlaaNs

****, damn you Nintendo. Sold.

;_;

Electabuzz's evolution looks like ass.

[Peanut]

The graphics upgrades are very nice, but it still looks like the exact same damn game!

[ThirdMarioBro]

****, damn you Nintendo. Sold.

;_;

Electabuzz's evolution looks like ass.

Haha, I sooo knew you'd cave. :P :D

Still looks like the same old crap to me though.

*goes to place preorder for Star Fox Command*

[Kid Icarus]

The Wifi stuff should make it more bearable, and it looks like they've revamped the menu for the better, again. While it's still not the MMO they need to make VOIP can olmost be used to create the same kind of feeling...

And there's still that rumor going around that Square and Nintendo are working on an MMORPG for Wii.

[Peanut]

Even a Pokemon MMORPG won't hook me. Most people online are complete idiots. It really isn't even worth my time to try and play most of the online multiplayer games out there.

[Kid Icarus]

OH, I won't play with random people except on Mairo Kart. Every other online game I play it's with people I know from here, or in real life.

I think you're just scared of the pwning I'd give you. :-O

[Peanut]

More like I just don't even care to play. Pokemon needs to change. The gameplay is stagnant, just like Final Fantasy. The "skill" in Pokemon battles are also a joke. The only deciding factors are level and type advantage. There's more luck than skill involved.

[Dr. Doom]

I think the main appeal of a Final Fantasy game is the storyline though. Does Pokémon even have anything of a narrative? (I played yellow way back in the day, I barely remember it)

[Peanut]

Which is why I said gameplay and not overall. The story in Final Fantasy is what draws people in. I'm pretty sure there aren't many people who play Final Fantasy because of the fast and furious, action packed gameplay.

And Pokemon has a "story"...I guess. It's the same basic thing in every game and it's crap.

[Brodie]

Hahaha, Final Fantasy's fast, furious, action packed gameplay...Peanut, you crazy.

[愛]

It's fast and furious in FFX-2!

...but that game should never have been made...or even thought of.

[TheGreenMagic]

That's always been my big gripe with Final Fantasy games... The batle systems always starts out good, but the further I get in one of the games, the more the battle systems bores me to no end. Especially thanks to the Summon animations.

[Kid Icarus]

The lack of skill in a Pokemon game only comes from people that don't play in human vs human matches. There are some people that create formulas to figure out exact damage counts from attacks vs the average of a pokemons level, and there are a few combos within move sets that are stupidly strong (which is why Mewtwo is banned from all tournaments... amnesia, amnesia, amnesia, rest, repeat until amnesia's PP is at 0, then psychic ftw, rest when you start to die.)

yes, the gameplay does need to change. And hopefully it'll move to an MMO setup on Wii. Doubtful, and I'm tired of Nintendo sitting on that one.

But when a game is still selling millions of copies in a matter of months why change it?

[Peanut]

Why not change it? I guess I'm seeing this from the point of a game player and not an 8 year old kid. It's selling millions of copies because of all the kids. If Pokemon wants to continue being taken seriously in the videogame community, it has to change. That doesn't mean it will, because why should they actually do some work and make something new as opposed to just tossing out the same game with minor differences every couple years?

I'm not looking at this from a marketing stand-point. As a videogame player, I don't want to keep playing the same crap over and over again. Especially when it's something as worn out as a traditional turn-based RPG.

GTA is still selling millions of copies, but would you stand up for that game on the same merits? Despite the fact that it has way more variation than a Pokemon game. Yet another series that needs to change. The majority of people in our community agree with that. You can only use the "it's still selling millions of copies" arguement for so long.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I don't give a damn how much it's selling. If I was a writer for Nintendo's PR department, then maybe I would, but i'm not and I don't. All I care about is if the game is fun, and I'm tired of playing the same thing over and over. There's no variety. I'm no RPG fan. I onl put up with RPG battle systems if the story is killer, and Pokemon dosen't offer that, so I look to the Gameplay. It was fun in Pokemon Yellow, but past that, I lost interest. The only Pokemon game I've enjoyed since was Pokemon Puzzle league, and that was Panel de Pon with badges.

I'll maybe buy this for the Wi-Fi, but that is a big ass "maybe".

[Kid Icarus]

Oh well. It's still going to sell like crazy.

If you want a diffrent type of Pokemon game check out those dungeon ones comming out. They look pretty fun.

[Peanut]

But why do you care that it's going to sell like crazy? Why!?! Will it directly effect your bank account?

We're saying Pokemon is garbage and needs to change. It really doesn't matter to us how much it sells! Finding Nemo is a PS2 and Xbox Greatest/Platinum Hits title, but does that mean we're about to rush out and support it? No.

[Jed]

I'm pretty sure he was speaking from the perspective of the people who make it when he made that comment, and it's a sad fact that if it does sell well then the people who make it won't be bothered to change it.

[Peanut]

I don't know. GWG is a pretty stout supporter of Pokemon in general, so it could be either way.

We've had this discussion in here before though, so I suggest we move on to something more interesting.

[Kid Icarus]

But why do you care that it's going to sell like crazy? Why!?! Will it directly effect your bank account?

We're saying Pokemon is garbage and needs to change. It really doesn't matter to us how much it sells! Finding Nemo is a PS2 and Xbox Greatest/Platinum Hits title, but does that mean we're about to rush out and support it? No.

As a premier tournament organizer for pokemon usa, in short... yes. it does effect my bank account. if the brand is still popular my tournaments stay healthy. if the brand falls to crap, money goes out of my pocket.

anyway, onto something important. DSL's have been getting small cracks on them...

http://www.planetgamecube.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=16741

Nintendo is teh DOOM3D!

[Peanut]

Honestly, I've been using my DS Lite non-stop everyday since I got it. No problems...with anything...at all.

This sounds more like the "exploding" Xbox cords and frying Xbox360's from not too long ago. It happens to about 10 people and they freak out. Suddenly every idiot, especially ones without the actual console/handheld in question, thinks every single one of them is broken or will break.

What the hell were these people doing with their Lite's that the hinges actually SNAPPED? It doesn't feel like cheap plastic, in fact it isn't, so they couldn't have been using them normally.

[Kid Icarus]

I know of three 360's that were returned to just one store here because of the power chords goin' kaboom....

but yeah. the DSL doesn't feel cheap at all from what little time i've spent with the demo units.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I wuuuuuuuuv my wittle DS Wite *COUGH* I mean Lite.

Pardon the sudden atack of the cute voice.

Nah, nothing wrong with mine either, and I already dropped it....on a carpet. Nope, nothing wrong with it.

[愛]

You have to be pretty careless to drop something expensive like that. I've never dropped my cell phone, Gameboy, or mp3 player. Yeah, stuff happens, but you just need to be careful.

[ThirdMarioBro]

That's only the 2nd time in 15 years I've ever dropped something over the price of $30 or with silicon inside. Ever. Whole story:

I was running to answer the phone and hit the wall while trying to go around a corner. The DS Lite went up, I dropped the phone, and caught it with my feet enough to nullify the impact. I busted my back in the process though.

Yes, my DS Lite is more important to me than my back.

[Peanut]

I know of three 360's that were returned to just one store here because of the power chords goin' kaboom.....

Uh...yeah...the original Xbox is the one with the power cord explosions...not 360.

[Kid Icarus]

Strange, because that's what the manager at the Gamestop here told me their 360's had been returned for.

I also seem to recall a few articles when 360 came out about the faulty powercords blowing up and frying the system...

I thought the only problem Xbox had was the blue screen?

[Jed]

I don't think the 360's powercords blew up, I think they just got too hot and the system would shut down... or freeze up or something like that.

[Peanut]

It was the Xbox that had the exploding power cords. And they didn't even blow up, they just kind of fizzled and one was recorded as catching on fire. It was due to some faulty wiring inside the cords that shorted out after awhile. They had a recall on all cords for consoles made before a certain date. I had to get a new cord for mine, despite the fact I never had any problems, as it was an earlier model. It was just a thicker cord with an adapter at the end.

The initial batch of 360's had problems with over heating. I've never heard anything about power cords for it. Just the fact that the thing runs super hot and some people, I think it was something like less than 1%, had their consoles fizzle out and shut down on them. Some of them also ate discs or stopped working completely.

[ThirdMarioBro]

It wasn't technically the chords. It was the AC Adapter box on the chord that were frying. That's all over now anyway. The majority of those were due to stupid people placing their 360's in poorly ventilated areas or sitting them on the carpet. I've got an intercooler on mine with a vertical stand. Always a good temperature.

[Kid Icarus]

thanks for clearing that up guys... no idea why i thought 360's power chords were blowing up.

I hate the off season... damn news drought.

so why don't you guys have WoW yet, hm?

[Peanut]

Because MMO's are the devil and I'd rather play 5 different games than spend all my time on one game. Honestly, I also don't have the time to invest in an MMO that would even make it worthwhile.

[愛]

Don't have the time? You have all the time in the world, you bum! You just don't want to invest the time! Go back to your strip malls...where values are king.

[GK Punk]

Go back to your strip malls...where values are king.

I had my girlfriend saying that all last year :lol:

[ThirdMarioBro]

Those rumors about a gaming ipod comming out keep getting louder (viral marketing). it's going to happen, but now there's some bullsh*t being stirred up by Apple fans. Read this crap. :lol:

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/07/20060718164759.shtml

One, Nintendo uses ATI based hardware and software. Two, Nintendo wouldn't make their games compatible with itunes because Apple would get a cut of their sales, and cause technicalilities. Remember 1993 and the Nintendo Playstation's profit dispute? Yeah. And last of all, why would Nintendo give Apple a free ticket and enterance advantage into the portable gaming industry? Why don't they just allow Sony to put classic Nintendo games on the PSP. it would be the same difference. Apple will make a gaming Ipod, but if they do it alone, it will likely be an afterthought and have N-gage level of suscess. If Nintendo allows them to put their library up for download, they're creating oppostion and boosting the competition. Never going to happen, and Nintendo would be utter fools if it did. Then again, you already knew all that.


I think MacFans is just referring to the term "Nintendo" in it's classic game sense. There will probobly be classic games for download on what I'll call the "igame", but they won't be Nintendo's. I think they're using the name as a discriptive term, if you catch my drift. Sorry I can't be more specific. I'm tired.

[愛]

Hasn't Nintendo been fools for a while now, though? To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if there was some truth to this article.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, if it did turn out to be true, then Nintendo just signed their fate away and they deserve whatever they get, and i'd hope it hurts badly because ignorance dosen't deerve to be rewarded. Just let Sony run licensed N64 games on the PSP. If you're gonna' license your games, go third party all the way.

Still, I don't think they're that stupid. Close, but no. Still, they've proven me wrong enough times to worry.

[Peanut]

This "gaming" Ipod won't go beyond Breakout. I don't see the thing even having any conventinal "gaming" control settings on it. Maybe a touch wheel or touch screen. This will straight up be an Ipod with casual games. Zuma and some crap like that.

Why would anyone want to get into the portable gaming market after seeing what Nintendo has done to Sony? On top of that; if Apple did make a gaming Ipod it would be going after the same market as the PSP, which is to say, the high-end market. I don't think it would be a real threat to the DS. Just like the PSP wasn't/isn't.

Apparently Microsoft is getting into this too with the Argo, so lets hope the portable market doesn't get flooded with half-ass crap like the PSP.

[Kid Icarus]

iPod already comes with breakout.... center button to launch the ball, wheel to move the paddle. Good time killer.

[Peanut]

I know it does. I don't think they're going to go beyond that. Casual games is as far as they go.

[Kid Icarus]

yeah, i really can't see Apple jumping into the gaming market... and even if they do, i can't see them making any kind of dent in it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I can see Apple making as much dent in the gaming market as Nintendo (or Sony for that matter :lol: ) could in the music market. Aka, zilch.

[Kid Icarus]

Holy **** :-O

I followed a link from Nirvanaclub.com to MTV.com... and found a Wii ad hitting me in the face.

Reggie is awesome.

[ThirdMarioBro]

"I want my WiiTV" :lol:


Quick note: The Oklahoma Video Gaming Exibition will be held August 19th in Tulsa. For directions, click here (http://www.ovge.com/location.html), and if you want to see the coverage of last year's show I did for an example, click here. (http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=5303)

I'm not covering anything this year. I'm just going, goofing off, getting pwnd to hell and back in shoryuken.com's Street Fighter tournament, then buying a TurboDuo, and hopefully there will be an arcade machine I want (and can afford) for sale.

Come kick my ass at Street Fighter!

[GK Punk]

I need a new Turbo Duo :(
Mine died :( :( :( :(

[Kid Icarus]

Suda51's Wii project... here: http://www.thewiire.com/news/371/1/Heroes_First_Footage_and_Details

Game looks like it has promise... And the celshading is a notible upgrade from what Gamecube is capable of doing.

I olmost want to see another Celda, just to see how Nintendo could push the engine on Wii...

[ThirdMarioBro]

Hard to believe that is a Wii title. Let me get this stright...

KILLER art direction, awesome atmosphere, lightsaber ripoff combat, kickass character design, a story I could really dig, schweet musical direction, and you get to kill people? I'll be preordering that asap kthxbye.

Only thing that sucks is the 4Kids quality voiceovers.

[Kid Icarus]

Keep in mind this is the same crazy bastard that made Killer7 ;).

[Barkworm]

I saw this a couple of days ago and the moment the characters started talking the trailer was ruined for me. :(

[愛]

This is Killer7 on some ridiculously good crack....but the voices make me wanna throw up.

[Kid Icarus]

It's Capcom... I'm amazed they don't have Dora the Explorer's voice used somewhere in there.

[Usagi-San]

Since I can only use my left hand, a system that will have games only requiring the use of one is ...exciting to me.

[Cure]

It seems Heroes has completely been taken off of the Wiire. No media for it, not even mentioned in the message boards. Curiouser and curiouser..........

[Brodie]

What was Heroes?

[Kid Icarus]

a game that looks like Killer7, just insanely more smooth and detailed coupled with better animation.

There's not hint of the gameplay yet... it could be anything from a DMC set up to a fighting game with guns, to a rail shooter following after Killer7. It's Suda51's Wii project, so it's going to have to be a tad insane.

[Cure]

IGN has exclusive new Sadness enough. Click here for it. (http://wii.ign.com/articles/721/721396p1.html)

The theme sounds very cool.

[Kid Icarus]

This game could easily turn into a second Eternal Darkness...

I hope it doesn't though, as far as sales go.

[Peanut]

Looks stupid to me.

[Brodie]

Yeah, where's Vin Deisel and the explosions?!

ghey.

I want a damn release date.

[Kid Icarus]

For Wii, or for Sadness?

Sadness is Q4 2007.

Wii will be out by the end of the year... we'll know before September.

[Peanut]

Sony just loves to blow smoke out of their ass.

Now, speaking to Joystiq.com, Sony's senior PSP product manager John Koller has addressed the issue of PSP's place in the market, commenting on how he feels the success of the DS has affected Sony's own handheld ambitions: "There has been no impact on sales", Koller assured

Koller continued, "If you look at the numbers, they did very well in June. But, if you look at our numbers since launch until now, we have outsold the DS by approximately 900,000 units in North America. Statistically speaking they had a holiday head start on the PSP, so in terms who have sold more overall has been a back and forth."


:lol:
Sure you did, buddy. Sure you did.

[ThirdMarioBro]

:lol: That is the most pathetic attempt at justificationa and bullsh*t padding I've seen in some time.


"Well...well, we don't suck. We outsold the DS because we said so.".
-John Koller

Jesus :lol:

[Barkworm]

Total DS and PSP sales in the US(from NPD):

Nintendo DS - 5.187.240
PSP - 4.711.961

I don't blame the guy, maths are really hard.

[JameO]

I love how Sony is based off all lies, what do you get out of thinking that your portable sold more and praising it for that, when in reality, it didn't do nearly as good as you claim! So stupid Sony, so stupid.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, so stupid that they managed to kill e3 to save themselves from competition. This one won't just fade away.

[Mecha Cow]

Tingle fans, unite! Our master needs us (http://www.nintendo.com/tinglesurvey/).

If you want Freshly Picked Tingle's Rose-Colored Rupee Land to get an English release (And you do), let NoA know by filling in the survey.

(To the Tingle haters: Don't be a dick. If you don't want to buy the game, leave the survey alone. Don't sabotage it for us who genuinely want it.)

[ThirdMarioBro]

Saw it two days ago. Already put in my (positive) two cents. Give me wine, women, and rubees.

[Mecha Cow]

Good man. Here is your reward (http://www.happinetonline.com/000001/product/75/4902370513875_500.jpg).

[Peanut]

Why wouldn't they port it over? The DS needs something crazy like this!

[Kid Icarus]

Ubisoft announces SEVEN Wii launch titles. http://planetgamecube.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=11866

SEVEN. Holy crap. And most of them look interesting. Red Steel and Rayman were already on my buy list ahead of most of the Nintendo games. Add Blazing Angels and Far Cry to that list.

;_;

I'm going to be SO broke.

[Peanut]

Dear God, WHY!?!

Blazing Angels is complete trash and Farcry is decent, but another iteration does not need to happen. What version is this going to be? Farcry: Insticts - Predator Unleashed Wii part 6? Ubi sure knows how to milk the hell out of a medicore franchise.

Rayman is still the only Ubi title I have any intrest in.

I also find it funny that all of this stuff has been on Xbox/Xbox 360 for a looong time, but now that it's on Wii it's a "must-buy" title. Lolz

[Cure]

Dear God, WHY!?!

Blazing Angels is complete trash and Farcry is decent, but another iteration does not need to happen. What version is this going to be? Farcry: Insticts - Predator Unleashed Wii part 6? Ubi sure knows how to milk the hell out of a medicore franchise.

Rayman is still the only Ubi title I have any intrest in.

I also find it funny that all of this stuff has been on Xbox/Xbox 360 for a looong time, but now that it's on Wii it's a "must-buy" title. Lolz

It's actually considered a must-buy for the Xbox/360, too.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I want Red Steel. The E3 version was an early build, and the sword fighting has evolved since from what I hear. That, and I love the new character artwork.

[Barkworm]

Ubisoft has also announced Prince of Persia for Wii: http://www.jeuxpo.com/afficher_news-3544.html
Yay!

[Kid Icarus]

Dear God, WHY!?!

Blazing Angels is complete trash and Farcry is decent, but another iteration does not need to happen. What version is this going to be? Farcry: Insticts - Predator Unleashed Wii part 6? Ubi sure knows how to milk the hell out of a medicore franchise.

Rayman is still the only Ubi title I have any intrest in.

I also find it funny that all of this stuff has been on Xbox/Xbox 360 for a looong time, but now that it's on Wii it's a "must-buy" title. Lolz

No idea it was on either of them.

And besides, if it has a new control scheme it might improve the gameplay to the point where it's actually fun to play.

In good news, my roommates are going to be buying a 360 pretty soon, and shortly after that a spiffy LCD display for the living room... to go along with these (http://www.ddrgame.com/newarmepadv3.html).

God, I love this house. :D.

[Peanut]

It's actually considered a must-buy for the Xbox/360, too.

What? Farcry? Where the hell did you get that information? The same exact game recycled 4 times over with minimal graphical upgrades is a must-buy? To who? Maybe for someone starving for some 360 games, but other than that...no.

Hooray for PoP on Wii!

[Cure]

What? Farcry? Where the hell did you get that information? The same exact game recycled 4 times over with minimal graphical upgrades is a must-buy? To who? Maybe for someone starving for some 360 games, but other than that...no.

Hooray for PoP on Wii!

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbx/farcryinstincts?q=Far%20Cry

[Peanut]

Yeah...one site I've never heard of versus every major gaming website on the net. That place uses ratings from websites made on a Yahoo Webpage template.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/931339.asp?q=farcry

I hardly call a 78% must-buy. Especially when most people who already owned an Xbox owned Facry or at least played it. Let's also push this into a point in time where decent 360 games are able to be found and Farcry becomes a pretty worthless title.

[Kaneda]

I've actually been wanting to play Far Cry for some time but since i suck at FPS (Wii will help) and dont own a 360 becuz its too expensive (Wii will be supposedly cheaper than every other next gen console) i have never played it.But hey thats just one person.

[Spitfire]

I honestly never liked Far Cry, but that could be due to the fact that my friend talked the crap out of it and made it out to be the coolest game ever made.

By the time I played it I expected it to be god like. But it fell quite short. I get really bored with single player FPS games.

[Peanut]

There's no mistaking that Farcry is a good game. I loved it on the Xbox. But a half-assed upgrade isn't worth the bigger price tag, especially when you can essentially find the same game on Xbox for about $10 now.

[Kid Icarus]

Thing is Peanut, the controls are going to be made for Wii... Hell, Excite Truck would be a stupid game if it wasn't for the fact that you have direct control of the trucks.

And I've never played Farcry. So neh :-p. Lol.

In some news, Nintendo debunks Space World rumors for the billionth time. Advanced Media has the interview, and I'm too lazy to get a link going. Looks like Lezipeg is where we're going to get the rest of the Wii info. That's only in 17 days.

[Barkworm]

Lezipeg
What's that? :P

[Kid Icarus]

I'm sure I didn't spell it right, but eh.

It's a European thingy like E3. Nintendo's supposed to drop the rest of their Wii info there.

[Barkworm]

I was just messing with you, it's spelled Leipzig and it's a city in Germany. The actual convention is simply called "Games Convention". I think it was more or less confirmed that Nintendo won't announce the price there since they don't intend to do that before September.

[Kid Icarus]

I'm pretty sure they said we'd know before September... and GC is the last thing they're going to be at before September.

[Barkworm]

My fault, official word was that it will be announced by September.

[Cure]

Yeah...one site I've never heard of versus every major gaming website on the net. That place uses ratings from websites made on a Yahoo Webpage template.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/931339.asp?q=farcry

I hardly call a 78% must-buy. Especially when most people who already owned an Xbox owned Facry or at least played it. Let's also push this into a point in time where decent 360 games are able to be found and Farcry becomes a pretty worthless title.

But see, that one site you've never heard of takes a consensus of almost all the critics' reviews on the net, so 86 is the average.

[Peanut]

But it's using stuff like Xboxfanboy.com and all that trash. Gamerankings, which is highly regarded to be the most reliable videogame ranking site on the internet, uses only top gaming sites.

And yeah, GWG, it's going to have Wii control, but why would you get Farcry when you would be getting a brand new FPS game, Red Steel, at launch?

I just don't want this version of the game to do good again. They've already ruined a perfectly good game. And not even by just releasing a ton of sequels, but by releasing the exact same game 4 times.

[Kid Icarus]

But it's using stuff like Xboxfanboy.com and all that trash. Gamerankings, which is highly regarded to be the most reliable videogame ranking site on the internet, uses only top gaming sites.

And yeah, GWG, it's going to have Wii control, but why would you get Farcry when you would be getting a brand new FPS game, Red Steel, at launch?

I just don't want this version of the game to do good again. They've already ruined a perfectly good game. And not even by just releasing a ton of sequels, but by releasing the exact same game 4 times.

Red Steel takes priority. I guess it all depends on how diffrent the two games turn out to be.

[Peanut]

Red Steel takes priority. I guess it all depends on how diffrent the two games turn out to be.

:lol: You do realize you're talking about a FPS right? Honestly, I have very little intrest in Red Steel, but if it came down to it I'd take that over Farcry.

[Kid Icarus]

Well, yeah. Weird. I don't even like FPS's, but there's two I'll own on Wii so far.... Prime 3 and Red Steel. Crazy stuff.

[ThirdMarioBro]

RUMOR: Insiders reveal a possible release date and the price point for Wii.
AMN has learned from industry insiders of a couple possible release dates for Nintendo’s new-gen platform, Wii, along with the console’s suspected price point. According to sources, the console is scheduled to launch on Sunday, November 12, 2006.

That noted, this suggested release date may not be final. IGN is also reporting on this possible November 12 release date. However, they have been informed that Wii could hit during late October or on November 2, 2006. AMN has heard similar talk from other developers and publishers.

What’s more, it seems the console will sell for $229.99 and be available in two different colors: black and white.

Additionally, it seems Wii could be region-locked, meaning North American units cannot play Japanese software and vice versa.

Insiders say Nintendo could possibly manufacture over 5 million Wii units by the end of the year. It boosted manufacturing numbers after the positive response to the console at E3 2006.

Readers should consider this report a rumor, as Nintendo has not made any official announcements yet. Nintendo says it will reveal official Wii launch information sometime in September. Stay tuned.

GODDAMMIT, it the date is Nov. 12, then I'm screwed. I won't be able to pick it up then, and will probobly wind up searching for one until Spring like with the 360. I hope it's November 2nd or earlier or I'm out of luck and will have to cancel my preorder.

Also, what the fu*k is up with Nintendo and region codes? So this still means we won't be able to download ANY foreign virtual console titles? If it was never released outside Japan, then is shall remain forever unreleased? What the fu*k Nintendo? Drive people to download roms Nintendo. Really smart. Looks like I'll be importing that Panel de Pon cartridge and modding my SNES after all.

Also, that price won't be too bad if they pack in some goodies.

[Kid Icarus]

229.99?

Hm... well, with a Wimote, Analog attachment, and possibly a Classic controler that's not too out there.

I could see them also thinking of packing a game... say Wii Sports... with it.

region codes make sense, sadly.

this doesn't mean that the emulator for VC wont' be able to play imports though...

[Barkworm]

What I'd like to know is what an extra Wiimote will cost. With all the stuff in it... Any guesses?

[ThirdMarioBro]

229.99?

Hm... well, with a Wimote, Analog attachment, and possibly a Classic controler that's not too out there.

I could see them also thinking of packing a game... say Wii Sports... with it.

region codes make sense, sadly.

this doesn't mean that the emulator for VC wont' be able to play imports though...

If they're using region codes on physical software, then I have no doubt that they have the mentality to use it on virtual software as well. Tell us we can't spend out money outside the US, then limit our selection. Farewell Beyond Good and Evil. Fu*k you Nintendo. Hell, even Sony is ditching them.

I said I'd give them hell for this, and thus I shall.

*starts brainstorming editorial ideas*

[Kid Icarus]

TMB, Beyond Good and Evil was an Ubisoft published game that did make it to the US ;). I've got a copy of it on PS2.

Sin and Punishment would be nice to finally play though...

[ThirdMarioBro]

That's the one I was thinking of. Forgive me, I was tired when I posetd that.

[Mecha Cow]

After all that 'Wii is about playing together and the I's stand for people lol' stuff they pretty much have to include a second controller.

A classic controller (If every Wii owner is guaranteed to own one, it could bring in some support from lazy developers, plus ports of 'normal' games) and Wii Sports (Really, I'm not sure if many people would buy this at full price) would be nice too, but may be asking a bit much.

Either way, $229 is an alright price, I think anyone expecting much less than that is kidding themselves.

As for the region thing, the article doesn't mention the VC. Didn't Reggie (Or someone else) say we would be able to download foreign games?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, but E3 is a long way from here. Things change, and I've been suspecting we'd get ****ed on that for a long time. How can foreign (see: unlocalized) games be rated using an American ESRB system which the government is trying to force legislation through to gain control of? They're going to block Japanese software, then blame it on the kiddies, and tell us it's for our best interests.

[Kid Icarus]

Or, they can post a disclaimer that content in foregin games may not be suitable for people of all ages.... at least leagaly cover their asses.

[愛]

$229.99 seems like a ridiculously decent price for something so sophistocated and so much development put into it. It's a price I'd be more than happy to pay. I was already willing to drop $400 on the thing, but half of that is a-okay with me.

To be honest, even though I enjoy foreign games from time to time (currently playing FFVI Japanese emulated), I think it'd be safe to keep the VC games from the American library. They should have a feature, though, to transfer games from your computer to the console itself, and emulate the game yourself. That'd be a pretty good idea, but I'm sure there'd be legal issues with that. Oh well. It's a thought.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The last thing I want is to go through another six years of Nintendo censoring me from playing Devil Land (actual game) and Panel de Pon. "OMG teh faries!1!1" I'm sick of the censorship. I understand them not releasing, say, a DS game like Tingle into stores because it likely wouldn't sell well, and they have to pay for assloads of distribution costs plus sweetalking (see: bribe) chains like Wal-Mart into carrying this title rather than another four rows of Hitman 2: Blood Money.

There is no risk here other than them not wanting us to have access to that library so we'll spend more $$$ on the American library we're allowed access to. I'm sick of it. There are games over there we never got that I want to play, and some versions that are superior to ours. I never imported because I felt it was too expensive, and there was a chance I'd be able to play it on VC, but it sounds like I'll be region blocked, and if I can play them, it'll be a "one or the other" deal. You can have English or Japanese software, but not both. That pisses me off, and when I get pissed off, I download roms.

I hope to be disproved in the comming weeks, but I seriously doubt it. I can simi-understand their decision to block us from physical Japanese software (Sony for the win), but if they lock the Virtual Console, fu*k them. I'll have an appointment with Romnation. No strings attached there.

[Peanut]

But you have to realize that you're in the minority. Out of all the people who will buy and play the Wii, how many do you think will want to jump off a bridge because they can't play some random Japanese games? 1%? 2%?

It would be a nice feature, yes, but is it really worth that much? Beyond one or two games I can't see a single other thing I'd ever want to play from Japan.

Maybe Nintendo just doesn't see the point in investing all that time and money into getting these titles into their NA VC system, when what they would gain from it is insubstantial to say the least. Why not work on the games that the overwhelming majority of us want to play on the VC?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Maybe Nintendo just doesn't see the point in investing all that time and money into getting these titles into their NA VC system, when what they would gain from it is insubstantial to say the least. Why not work on the games that the overwhelming majority of us want to play on the VC?

How does it cost them a dime to put the Japanese Rom for Panel de Pon (their IP, that they own, lock stock and barrel) into a Progressive Scan emulator? It costs them no more than the cost of hiring some intern to photoshop the boxart and write a product discription in English. You gotta' remember, this isn't the XBlox Live Arcade. Those games are having to be refitted (sometimes substantially) to work online, and sometimes completely overhauled from source code in the case of Street Fighter and Frogger, or rebuilt from scratch such as Pac-man (which Namco has gotten good at by now :lol: ). These VC games haven't been touched. These are stright up copy protected Roms. They don't have to be altered to work in Progressive Scan HD. The proprietary emulators do that automatically (which I was told in person by Takeshi Tezuka at E3). There is no cost involved.

Now, I can understand this omission when speaking of Japanese games based on certain Animes or such that licenses have run out on. But the same thing applies to American SNES games like True Lies, The Flintstones, or Die Hard. You're not going to see that crap on the Virtual Console, and those were made here. They are based on licenses that expired. Same deal as any Japanese game based on a property. I don't expect that. I just expect Nintendo to take their own unreleased stuff, as well as the selection of unreleased Japanese titles they can get permission from Japanese publishers to use, who are likely already supporting the VC anyway. Just take the Rom, slap the boxart on a PSD template, write a Japanese language disclaimer, and sell that sucker. There is no cost involved here, so I don't see the problem with providing this to that minority that demands it. They like to proclaim they are a golbal company, so they should act like it. This dosen't cost them a dime.

[Kaneda]

Whew someone sure wants to play japanese games.I don't mind that i wont be able to but then again I was never interested in importing games.Wouldn't mind that Tingle game though...I'd buy it.

[Dr. Doom]

This is the near end result (a few minutes before it closed) of a GameFAQs poll from a couple days ago.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/TobiasFenrir/PS2pwnsPS3.gif

PS2 > PS3

rofl

[Kid Icarus]

http://www.planetgamecube.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=11894

GenCon picks up after E3.

This is great... I was planning on going there next year anyway, but now I'm sold.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Hey, it's no E3, but it's better than nothing. Still not going though.

[Kid Icarus]

It's perfect for me though. Card games, board games, AND video games? ****. Yes.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Nothing will replace E3. You had to be there. The nerd sweat, bouncing boobs, people lterally getting trampled in stampeds, and Shigery Miyamoto, Reggie, Kaplan, and Iwata walking around signing peope's stuff willingly. *hugs autographed Zelda collector's edition*

There will apprently never be an experience quite like it. Just Japanese & German exclusive press unveilings that I can't get to.

[Kid Icarus]

I could see, in a year or two after this first one, Gencon turning into that. That convention is already HUGE with Magic and Yugioh worlds taking place there, along with a hundred or so other games. While it won't be 100% video games... that's actually better for me. I could also see companies making some impressive booths. The first year I went, Wizards of the Coast made a giant castle to demo games in. Nintendo did a full blow Pokemon stand. Microsoft had a pretty cool demo station for Xbox as well.

Anywho, new Pokemon info... pretty awesome stuff.

- You can trade Pokemon worldwide via WiFi, and you can put up your Pokemon for trade for others to find and trade you for. You will NOT need a friend code to trade through this way. You can also specify what Pokemon you are looking for, including gender and level. For every player you trade with, a map in your game will track the location of the person.
- Trainers will now receive rankings for battling others. More on this later

I'm starting to like this game more now. Getting rankings based on how well I do durring WiFi battles? Trading Pokemon like items in WoW's Auction House? Sweet. Nintendo's finally doing something useful with WFC other then a giant world wide LAN.

[Kaneda]

Wow I'm likin' the new info on the Pokemon game.I kinda wanted this game before :trazz: but now i want it even more.Trading over WiFi without needing freind , codes so sweet.*runs to go play his DS*

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, that's good. I'm glad Nintendo is finally working up something more impressive out of that Pokemon game. Still not buying it though. I've had my fill of Pokemon.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Best. Fake. Ad. Ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljZOHnZNaBc

I'd watch must see TV for that ad.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBSTHNFY89c

I'd pay good money for that. Funny stuff.

[Kid Icarus]

Aside from whoever was playing Ryu sucking horribly, that was pretty damn sweet.

[Peanut]

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=5&cId=3152427

Pretty neat feature. Top Ten Mario Videos. This one is cool! Someone edited footage of Free Running (basically moving around buildings and stuff like PoP) with Super Mario Bros. music and sound effects. I got a real kick out of the end!

Actually, most of them are worth watching. The Mario Marimba one is awesome, so is the dude on the guitar and the crazy Japanese commercial for Mario Kart DS. Skip the GTA Mario one though. It's retarded.

[Kid Icarus]

That was some cool ****. I remember the crazy guitar guy... he's awesome.

[Peanut]

Has everyone listened to the Wii podcast on IGN yet? If not, I suggest you do. It'll really get you pumped for the Wii. It's a really good podcast. Matt from IGN is one of about two editors from that site who I actually respect, so hearing how excited he is about the Wii is very very encouraging.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/725/725324p1.html

[ThirdMarioBro]

Meh, I knew most everything in the podcast already. Still waiting to place my preorder.........*prays to God for November 2nd or earlier*

[Jed]

In the game section of Smyths Toystore today they were playing a promo video on a loop for the Wii, showing tons of games including Metroid 3, new Zelda, Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam, Red Steel and tons of others with shots of people using the remote inbetween. Has anyone else seen this?

[Peanut]

Meh, I knew most everything in the podcast already. Still waiting to place my preorder.........*prays to God for November 2nd or earlier*

Yeah, so did I. I'm sure the majority of us have, but it was still a pretty encouraging podcast.

If this ends up being true...WOW.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=24904633&sid=6155907&tag=latestnews;title;1

[Kid Icarus]

That'd be nice... but I can't see it happening. Either way I'm sure the US market'll get slapped with at least a $200 tag.

[Barkworm]

First trailer for Tingle RPG:
http://touch-ds.jp/mediagallery/st49.html

[Mecha Cow]

I know you're just the messenger, but I love you.

The game really does look nice, and not just because it's about the great Tingle.

[Kid Icarus]

Found an interesting thing on Opera's website today...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/Gwgtrunks/opernintendo.jpg

Looks like they're taking their team up with Nintendo seriously. Wii AND DS on their main page.

[Dr. Doom]

Alright, which one of you guys made this little gem?

http://youknowyouwouldtoo.ytmnsfw.com/

[Peanut]

Probably one of the 95% of people in the videogame community who hate the PS3.

[Cure]

A new little tidbit about Sonic in Brawl. http://wii.qj.net/Sakurai-and-Miyamoto-Comment-on-Sonic-s-Popularity/pg/49/aid/62240

[Mecha Cow]

I'd hardly take that as a confirmation or anything, but yeah, I think it's pretty safe to assume Sonic will be in the game.

[R-iZZy]

Are they planning on bringing any other Sonic characters into the game or are they really being hush-hush about this?

[ThirdMarioBro]

I wouldn't be suprised if they cut the third party list off there, but even then, who else do you need? The rest are superlative. You've got the unofficial frontman of the Playstation brand, the former rival that has fallen from grace, and the red guy who can still proclaim to have a shread of his former stature left in him.

Yeah, Mario on Sonic on Snake. For the fu*king win.

[Peanut]

I want Mega Man. At least one FF character would be nice too. I mean, there are going to be FF characters in Mario Hoops, why not in SSB:B?

[Dr. Doom]

I'm not banking on seeing anyone from Final Fantasy. If they did put someone in there it'd probably just be ****ing Cloud anyways.

[Mecha Cow]

Nah, only characters that have appeared on a Nintendo console are eligible. If there will be a Square character, it would probably be a Chocobo or a Black Mage or a Moogle or something. A few months ago I would have said it was impossible, but with Nintendo and Square's relationship improving as of late, you never know.

And I still want my man Bomberman in there.

[Peanut]

Bomberman has been ruined as of the sh*tty Xbox360 title.

[Mecha Cow]

But square-headed, white-and-purple Bomberman lives on in my heart. :(

[ThirdMarioBro]

They're making a Bomberman party game for Wii in the classic style since they lost the Mario Party licence. There's a chance.

Yeah, and fu*k the new "Urban friendly" Bomberman. God I hate what has happened to gaming.

[Peanut]

Yeah, and fu*k the new "Urban friendly" Bomberman. God I hate what has happened to gaming.

Nothing has happened to gaming. Bomberman has always been a weak character. They tried to upgrade him and failed miserably. That just happens sometimes.

[Dr. Doom]

lost the mario party liscence? O_o

[ThirdMarioBro]

Nothing has happened to gaming. Bomberman has always been a weak character. They tried to upgrade him and failed miserably. That just happens sometimes.

I refer to the overly common ideal that everything in gaming must appeal to the "urban/uptown/ghettoo" mindset. There are some of us such as those on this forum that can switch between happy rainbow sunshine stuff to blood, murder, and zombies, then back with without blinking an eye.

lost the mario party liscence? O_o

I've been hearing they lost it after MP7 and that GBA title. I feel they should have lost it after 3. Mario Party 1 was fun as hell, MP2 improved everything, then all the others were downhill. While 3 was competant, I feel 4 was among the worst Nintendo titles ever made. 5 was a slight step up, then 6 & 7 were abominations. The Bomberman "Party" game at E3 goes to reaffirm that rumor was true. I hope Nintendo brings it back sometime in the distant future though. It could be amazing and freash on Wii, but I don't want Hudson within 15 feet of it.

[Peanut]

I'm almost 100% sure Hudson has moved on. They're making Fusion Frenzy 2 for the 360 after all.

[Barkworm]

Peanut, your avatar ROCKS!!!

[Kid Icarus]

Are they planning on bringing any other Sonic characters into the game or are they really being hush-hush about this?
Besides possibly Eggman, who would want any of the other characters? They're all annoying.

[Kaneda]

I wouldn't mind Knuckles but, they'd end up putting in Shadow or someone else whos crap.

[XERO]

Battletoads, damnit! :x

[Dr. Doom]

Knux would so be for the win

[Peanut]

Yes. The only other character who I could stand besides Sonic would be Knuckles. If some stupid sh*t like Shadow gets in there I'll be pissed.

And Barkworm...this is true. It does rule.

[Barkworm]

Some great news:
http://wii.ign.com/articles/726/726748p1.html

[ThirdMarioBro]

And contrary to popular belief, the controls were pretty tight at E3. They were obviously a little unpolished, but still quite intuitive. I loved aiming the arrows, but moving while in "Z-Targeting" mode was a tad akward. I hope those issues have been resolved, because these sound like positive changes.

btw, If Shadow was put in Smash just to appease all the little emo kids in the world, I would literally go to their offices and light up some cars. No fu*king shadow in a Nintendo game. That fu*ker ruined Sega, and he's not comming over to Nintendo for a cameo.

Pardon my sloppy typing. I just moved to a new keyboard. The old one gave out (hence my recent typing errors as of late).

[ThirdMarioBro]

August 21, 2006
Miyamoto Reveils Mysteries on Unrelease Games (http://wii.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=7411&pg=1&comments=full#comments)

by: Sud Koushik

Miyamoto lifts the lid on some of gamings greatest mysteries.
Shigeru Miyamoto held an exclusive interview with Japanese magazine, Nintendo Dream in honor of the publication's 10th birthday. In this interview, the magazine was able to ask questions about games that never saw the light of day.

Mario 64 2 was the first game to receive the spotlight. Nintendo Dream asked, "It was being made for the 64DD, correct? You said in an interview (in the September 1997 issue) that Luigi is also in it." Miyamoto responded with, "I'm sorry. I've forgotten. However, I believe it's become other games." Nintendo Dream continued the question by asking, "As in the game systems are being used in other games, right?" Miyamoto replied letting out an important tidbit, "From the time that we were originally making Mario 64, Mario and Luigi were moving together. But we couldn't get it working in the form of a game."

Another highly anticipated, but missing game was Mario 128. Miyamoto said that most of the title's concept were incorporated into other titles we have seen today. For example, Mario Galaxy for the Wii.

"Mario 128 was a test concept for Mario, so, for instance, the parts in Mario Galaxy where you're running around on the surface have come from Mario 128. We ran many tests to get a good feeling when running about, which is Mario Galaxy's theme," Miyamoto continued. "We were aiming for 3D action that anyone could play. We want to make a 3D game that is perfect for someone who's just starting out with 3D games."

Cabbage was another MIA title. Ironically enough, Nintendo Dream was the first to break the news about this 64DD title, and unfortunately it never saw the light of day. Miymamoto said a lot of the game's aspects went into the development of Nintendogs. "Cabbage" itself never saw the light of day because, "Itoi and Ishihara [Cabbage Developers] got busy."

Another N64 title that Nintendo Dream brought up was Marionette, a title that let gamers control a marionette character. Miyamoto connected Marionette with the Wii as he said, "Marionette is probably more suited for something like the Wii. However, that type of game is difficult. Just looking at it, it seems to be fun, but then you get the feeling of, 'Well, what do I do now?'"

Last but not least was Stage Debut, a GameCube game that got its origins from the N64. Stage Debut relied on the GBA for connectivity so that gamers could take pictures of themselves and put it in the game. Images of the game were shown with Miyamoto and even Satoru Iwata, Nintendo's president. Some of this game's mechanics were applied to Wii Tennis.

It's always good to see what happens to lost games, and its even better to know that their ideas get implemented into titles that eventually get released.

Okay, that was some useful reading. Simply put, Mario Galaxy is Mario 128. I think we can call that settled now. Luigi was supposed to be in Mario 64, but it didn't work, so they canned it. I remember hearing about "Marionette" years ago, and just forgot about it, as I'm sure most did. Never sounded like a good idea anyway. As for Stage Debut (which I was mildly interested in), I'm glad it went towards something useful. Very insightful information there.

[Hannah]

btw, If Shadow was put in Smash just to appease all the little emo kids in the world, I would literally go to their offices and light up some cars. No fu*king shadow in a Nintendo game. That fu*ker ruined Sega, and he's not comming over to Nintendo for a cameo.
sadface.emo

[Kid Icarus]

Sounds to me like the experiments with Luigi in Mario 64 turned into the Mario and Luigi series...

The way I'm reading that is that Luigi followed behind Mario and could be used for more platforming techniques... Think Ice Climbers in SSB:M.

That's pretty interesting to see how these things have sorta twisted their way into existance.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Everybody's favourite inside source is here to tell you that there is supposed to be a Nintendo Press Conference tonight. Don't know when, but it's comming. I don't guarntee that they'll unveil the Wii information we're all wanting, but there is a conference.

[Peanut]

I thought it was pretty much confirmed that Nintendo was going to have a confrence at Leipzig? They're also, most likely, going to show us something that disappeared on the Cube and is ready to re-emerge on the Wii. There's also been some rumors about a Mario Strikers for Wii and there could be a "big" announcement. There "catch phrase" for Leipzig is "We prove our promise" or something like that. Unless I'm thinking TGS, but I don't think I am.

You'll have to come up with something better "insider"! lolz.:D

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, uh....poo on you!

I'm pretty certain that GameCube project that is going to emerge on Wii is Super Paper Mario.

*edit*

Update: The Leipzig Conference is tonight at 1:15AM (US Eastern Time) and it will not contain any new game announcements. Instead, we'll probobly have to wait until TGS (****). Expect several new Wii game unveilings and announcements/updates tonight.

[Peanut]

So which is it? No new games or new games? lol

http://wii.ign.com/articles/727/727276p1.html

I hope we learn some good news.

Edit: And has it even been confirmed that Nintendo is going to be at TGS? I haven't heard anything yet. The only Wii thing I've heard about TGS is that Marvelous Interactive is going to be showing the Wii version of Harvest Moon there.

Nintendo doesn't typically make a showing at TGS anyways, I guess they have something to show this year, but I still don't know. I'm thinking if anything they may have their own little press conference.