The Nintendo Discussion Thread

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, and it would be just like them to put it before the first day of TGS to feed off the Sony hype. Nintendo said "before TGS". I claim one day before.


Oh, and these new game announcements will probobly be nothing much beyond Super Mario Strikers 2. I'd just go to bed. Hopefully I'm wrong. I'll buy that game in a heartbeat, but I'm not sitting up for it.

[Barkworm]

Home field advantage! Yay!

[ThirdMarioBro]

Nintendo Event on September 14

August 23, 2006

by: Phillip Levin

Nintendo invites members of the media to an event on September 14, 2006.
Nintendo sent out an invite to members of the media tonight, inviting them to a private event on Thursday, September 14, 2006.

The invite reads “Nintendo of America personally invites you to experience our upcoming line up with Nintendo of America President Reggie Fils-Aime.”

No other details regarding what the event could be about are disclosed.

Nintendo is expected to give full launch details, including a Wii release date and price point, sometime in September. This event could be for that announcement.

We’ll have more as it develops.

source: AMN Wii


Told 'ya. Right before TGS. Fu*k them, I'm going to bed. Pray to God that Mario Galaxy makes it before Christmas. I want to see that sucker under the tree and bring back the memories of SMW and my SNES under the tree, or SM64 and my N64 under the tree. Those were such amazing times. I lost that joy of comming home to Mario with GameCube, and I want it back. Five years Nintendo. Five years since Sunshine. It dosen't take that long, even for Twilight-'effing-Princess it dosen't take that long.

Home field advantage! Yay!

:lol: Lucky ;)

[Barkworm]

Wow, if Nintendo wanted to prove that they don't give a crap about the Games Convention they did a great job!

[ThirdMarioBro]

I woke back up. Force of habbit. Saw some pics from a staffers phone. Looks like a mini-E3 in a shipping wearhouse. Bleh.

[Barkworm]

Actually the thing is HUGE. Last year it had about 130.000 visitors.

[ThirdMarioBro]

:o That's like almost double the size of E3 attendance.

*edit*

http://wii.advancedmn.com/images/media/mariostrikerscharged_001.jpg

Momma Mia, That's-a-spicy Soccer Ball!

I love Super Mario Strikers. It's so over-produced.

[XERO]

Mario looks like a friggin' cyborg. :lol:

[Mecha Cow]

So, Mario Strikers 2 (Or whatever the final title is) and Batallion Wars 2. Pretty much what was expected.

Sounds good though, Mario Strikers and apparently Batallion Wars are two games that could really benefit from a sequel.

[Peanut]

Nintendo needs to hurry the hell up and try and finalize everything. I need to put down my pre-orders ASAP!

[Mecha Cow]

European release dates for Q3 and 4 (http://www.nintendo-europe.com/NOE/nl/NL/news/article.do?elementId=0z21Xdagi3PmahvUotFwHO2jn6TAp HuP).

Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin - Nov. 0(Date is cut off - First week probably)
Mario Slam BasketBall (Oh NoE :roll: ) - Nov. 10th
Star Fox Whatever The Title Was Again - Nov. 24th
Yoshi's Island 2 - Dec. 1st

Harvest Moon: Magical Melody - Oct. 20th (They f*cking pushed it back again. WHY? Who the hell is going to buy a GC game in October?)

[Kid Icarus]

Batillion Wars II. Get it? Huh? BWii? HAHAHA.

Um. Yeah.

Anyway, horribly dissapointing showing from Nintendo here. They're doomed because of it. Sony is going to show off their ultra-computer with a toaster and take the girl gamers by storm with their new pink hues.

We might as well go buy some 3DO's and watch over-compressed CD movies.

[Mecha Cow]

What else were you expecting? Doomed? Et tu, Trunks? :lol:

Apparently they're holding some private party thing on September 14th, we will probably get some solid info there ('Release and price details will be announced in September').

[Kid Icarus]

For those that didn't pick up the sarcasm... I did toss in that 3DO line ;)

[Peanut]

Yeah, but I don't think this is one of those times where that sarcasam works, because no one really cared about this showing. I bet the majority of people don't even know that it happened.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, definately not worth the headache I have now from lack of sleep.

*vanishes into shadows to play PDZero*

[Peanut]

Does anyone actually still play PDZ? I thought they were all in CoD2 and GRAW. I really can't take those aiming controls. Soooooo bad.

[Kid Icarus]

And the fact that no one cared about it is what makes it so damn funny to me :D

[Peanut]

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2483

lolz. Everyone is either not buying it or waiting for a price drop.

Is it even possible for Sony to make any significant sized price drops on this machine; within anything except the very distant future?

They're apparently losing a ton on each console as it is, so what would a price drop do to those numbers? They would have to be reaching loses that may even overshadow what was happening to Microsoft with the first Xbox. Analysts have been saying Sony isn't doing very good business as a whole anymore anyways. Little known fact, they haven't actually made money in 5 years. So while people may find it impossible, if the PS3 really does bomb, then Sony is in trouble of losing more than it's lead in the videogame market.

[Kid Icarus]

Seeing as stand alone blu-ray players are still around $1,000+, they're already taking a big hit. Add in all the components needed to play games, including networking features and, i'm assuming bluetooth for the controllers... and they're pry losing ~$300-$400 every machine.

I guess they expect everyone to pick up around 6 or 7 games. And guessing from their current views, they really do think that's going to happen.

I guess they also think pigs are going to start flying out of my ass pretty soon too.

[Peanut]

I also enjoy how so many PS3 fans justify the price by saying "Oh it has blu-ray", but very few of them actually own the means to even display it.

PS I'm posting this from my PSP! lolz

[ThirdMarioBro]

I guess they expect everyone to pick up around 6 or 7 games. And guessing from their current views, they really do think that's going to happen.

I guess they also think pigs are going to start flying out of my ass pretty soon too.

Yeah, and there was that rumor that people were going to be required to buy 3 games in the first 90 days, but I think that's ********.

I can't stand surfing the web on my PSP. Takes too long to type, and I think the DS browser won't load anything with such little ram.

[Peanut]

:lol: I know. It's awful, but I finally got around to getting a wireless router, so I thought I'd try it out. It failed horribly when I found out it wouldn't play sound from YTMND.

[Barkworm]

Guys, have a look at this. It's the "leaked" speech for Ninty's next press event. It's 100% bullsh*t, of course but I figured such an elaborated fake deserved a post:

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/reggie1.JPG
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/reggie2.JPG
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/reggie3.JPG
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/reggie4.JPG
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/reggie5.JPG

Some people really have too much time at their hands.

[愛]

It's total BS because the exchange rate at the very bottom for the HMD is totally wrong. 10,000 yen does not equal $79 USD. lolz

[Dr. Doom]

only a total LUZAR would know that LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Kid Icarus]

Yup, and on Planetgamecube's forums it was pointed out that they used the same 'crumpled paper' texture on the background of each sheet. Actually read through it... Wow. Because a remake of Duckhunt would SO take up 512MB of space.

So, Nintendo was pretty much vacant from PAX I guess. Showed off some DS stuff, and that's about it. Why the hell arn't they doing more public showings of Wii? If you need to PLAY the damn thing to really get it... why arn't they giving people as many chances to play it as they can?

Since they arn't showing anything off, they're doomed. Microsoft is going to get %100 of the market, Sony's going to go back to making crappy TV's short before going into the toaster market with PS3 cases, and Nintendo's going to have to fall back on making card games.

[Peanut]

If anyone, at any point, ever thought that was real..wow. They should just be killed.

The sheer amount of completely idiotic statements in that "speech" just blows my mind! Since when has Nintendo ever ever gone for the low blow on the competition by pointing out numbers like that? Then you have the completely horrible and fake made-up game names. Metroid Dread? Metal Gear Dark Snakes? What kind of 6 year old who went through prefrontal lobotomy thought that brilliant one up? Then they drop that ridiculous gyroscopic bullsh*t for the DS, which isn't even close to as stupid as the October 2nd Wii release date. Capping it all off with that god damn HMD sh*t was perfect.

Not only does the writer of this have too much free time, but he also has too much life remaining. He should just take it and get it over with.

BTW, Trunks, that's enough with the doom and gloom stuff now. It's getting kinda stale.

[Barkworm]

If anyone, at any point, ever thought that was real..wow. They should just be killed.
It's funny that you'd say that because I found this on an Austrian message board and those guys were discussing this crap as if it was real. :lol:

[ThirdMarioBro]

So, Nintendo was pretty much vacant from PAX I guess. Showed off some DS stuff, and that's about it. Why the hell arn't they doing more public showings of Wii? If you need to PLAY the damn thing to really get it... why arn't they giving people as many chances to play it as they can?

Because nothing has really changed at all. Nintendo is still acting blind to the media and they still don't know how to market a good thing. They think it will sell itself. In the end, that is why Microsoft will win. If Nintendo were trying to sell water to a dying man in the desert, they would sell it to him in a yellow bottle.

You won't see a Wii for people to play until late October. By then Microsoft will have ads for Halo 3 and Gears of War flooding everything and nobody will give a damn.


Anyway on to other news, I've got a severe migraine. Time to lay down and rest. I think I got strained too far mowing in 105 degree weather with a heat index of 110. I go out in the sun all bundled up because of the sun. I sunburn like cheesetoast. I wear all that crap tp protect my pale skin, but I think I got too hot because of it.

[Kid Icarus]

I had a dream last night... Wii kiosk's got shipped out and installed without anyone saying anything. There was this chick that walked by the demo station, and just stared at the remote. She had no idea what the hell it was, so I walk up and start playing some random game. I think I was actually just swinging the remote around like a moron, but a huge crowd gathered.

Then I woke up.

[愛]

That's pretty f'n weird, dude. But then again, I had a dream I was about to score with a sweet and beautiful asian girl, and then I woke up just when I was about to take her clothes off. After that, I cried in my bed. No, I'm not joking. =/

[The Clerk]

I'm sorry, Lain.


And Pit, that's an.... odd dream, bro :)

[Kid Icarus]

Yeah. Infact, the TV was off... so yeah. I was just being weird with a plastic remote... Hm.

I need another hobby. Like drinking! Yay for being 21!

[愛]

Drinking has become a more common occurance for me now that I live at college. :o

[ThirdMarioBro]

*chugs a leftover frozen dackerie while watching Conan*

[Barkworm]

Because nothing has really changed at all. Nintendo is still acting blind to the media and they still don't know how to market a good thing. They think it will sell itself. In the end, that is why Microsoft will win. If Nintendo were trying to sell water to a dying man in the desert, they would sell it to him in a yellow bottle.
That's not really true, the marketing campaign for the DS was enormous and Nintendo has already announced a similar one for Wii. Nevertheless it's just weird that they wouldn't show it at GC in Leipzig (actually it WAS playable but for journalists only) since the GC is getting bigger and bigger every year (180.000 people this year, new record) and it would have been a perfect opportunity to get many, many people hyped. On the other hand PS3 was not present in any way but a couple of new trailers so... yeah.

[Kid Icarus]

Sony hasn't even started to manufacture PS3's yet... not really supprised at it's absence.

Thing is... PAX and Leipzig could have turned into the same kind of riot that E3 was, but this time the games would have had more polish to them.

Oh well. September 14th looks like the magic day now. 2 more weeks.

[Peanut]

Some bad news for me. I asked my friend at EB when they started Wii pre-orders. He told me they're not taking any pre-orders. No EB's in Canada apparently. Looks like I'm gonna have to line up on the release.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Our EB's in the area aren't either. Gamestop is still in the air and waiting for a date, and expected allotments to be tallied before they make a decision by the end of the month or first week in October at the absoulte latest. This situation is going to turn into a massive hell this Christmas.

The last time I stood in line for anything, they told the people who had been in line for 5 hours that they were going to "lottery" out the stock and mostly people who came at the last second wound up with the goods, while the people who waited for hours were fu*ked. Not bothering if that is the case.

[Duke]

The last time I stood in line for anything, they told the people who had been in line for 5 hours that they were going to "lottery" out the stock and mostly people who came at the last second wound up with the goods, while the people who waited for hours were fu*ked. Not bothering if that is the case.
That is exactly what happened when I stood in line to wait for my 360. I was there for hours then all the sudden out of no where the manager decides to do a lottery. I was so pissed because I would have been guaranteed one, but luckily a won one anyway. I was smart and called my parents and sister to come get in line for a number. My mom's number actually won. But I was the last winner (well literally my mom was the last winner) and I was 4th in line. The first 3 people in line didn't even win one, and 2 of them actually worked for the store.

[Kid Icarus]

I'll be in Walmart at midnight waiting for them to unpack these suckers. I'll get there early... I can eat at the mcdonalds, and if I get really bored I can go buy a book... or a DS game. Brilliance!

[ThirdMarioBro]

Media Create Sales [August 21-27]

August 30, 2006

by: Miguel Yanez

Both software and hardware charts agree on something: DS really stands for Dominating System. Click for the scoop.
The latest Japanese sales are in, and it has been a excellent week for Nintendo. The entire top ten list belongs to our favorite Dual Screen handheld -- yes, you are reading correctly -- with impressive numbers from Final Fantasy III, and even from Mario's succesful return to 2D glory: New Super Mario Bros. Making a return is also Mario Basketball, and the one that simply cannot die: Animal Crossing: Wild World.

Here's the full chart:

Position / Weekly Sales / Life to Date

01) DS - Final Fantasy III - 503,051 / (NEW)
02) DS - New Super Mario Bros. - 65,556 / 2,901,264
03) DS - Rune Factory - 42,210 / (NEW)
04) DS - Brain Age 2 - 41,784 / 3,073,195
05) DS - Cooking Navi - 37,326 / 384,045
06) DS - Tamagotchi 2 - 30,504 /430,933
07) DS - Mario Basketball 3 on 3 - 30,355
08) DS - Animal Crossing: Wild World - 30,023 / 3,149,131
09) DS - Brain Age - 22,866 / 2,736,150
10) DS - English Training - 17,465

The hardware chart also show dominance from Nintendo's handheld, with an impressive 163,000+ units sold during the week.

Here is the complete hardware chart:

01) Nintendo DS Lite: 163,274
02) PlayStation Portable: 29,945
03) PlayStation 2: 21,829
04) GameBoy Advance SP: 2,719
05) GameBoy Micro: 1,819
06) Xbox 360: 1,197
07) Nintendo GameCube: 837
08) Nintendo DS: 410
09) GameBoy Advance: 14
10) Xbox: 12


I know I don't usually post these things anymore, but you gotta' admit this is impressive. Complete and total DS sweep.

[Kid Icarus]

779367 units of DS software sold in the top ten alone.

Holy crap.

It's kinda nice to see Xbox selling again. It went a few weeks without any sales.

edit... i'm hearing that this is the first time a full top ten sweep has happend in the japanese charts. any idea if that's true?

[Peanut]

I doubt that. The PS2 probably had a few sweeps around its first year of life. I mean, what else was there to buy at that point? Maybe some PSX games.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, if they f*** me over like in a store like that after I wait for seven hours, I'll probobly kick an isle or large display of something over on my way out of the store. Wouldn't ever shop there again anyway. Here's a tip: Don't go to K-Mart. They're the most likely to do a lottery and fu*k the people who lined up.

*prays to God that Gamestop does preorders*

Fu*k you Nintendo for holding the information back so damned long. This has gotten rediculious. I can hardly imagine how pissed the retailers are at this point.

*edit*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMSYBju7en4&mode=related&search=

I wish I could still downgrade my PSP. :( They couldn't get SNES running decently a year ago, but now they can do CPS2? :cry:

[Kid Icarus]

do they have a working SNES emulator yet?

hell, the system might be worth getting if the price drops just to emulate stuff on. and hey, SNES roms are pretty damn small, so i could pry fit the majority of the worthwhile games onto one memory stick....

[ThirdMarioBro]

You could. I did. And yes, SNES is full speed now.

Now, tell me this isn't Duck Hunt...

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/827/827190/vids_1.html

Suuuuuure, it's a tech demo. Just like Pac-Pix and Luigi's Mansion, and Mario 64x4, and blah blah blah.

Duck Hunt.

For the Win.

Shoot the dog.

Wiiiiiiii.

[Kid Icarus]

Yeah, I watched that at work last night. That'll be awesome... the ducks fly away and you can still shoot them. Missing is the dog though... hmm.

[Dr. Doom]

So uuuh... I'm kinda gettin' back into playing MP: Hunters and I'd really like to start playing with people I know more and doing different match types and such. My friend code is in the wifi thread, contact me on AIM or whatever if you wanna play at all. ^_^

[ThirdMarioBro]

I've been speculating on the story for Twilight Princess lately and I got to thinking about some things. Nintendo has basically kept the story of this game wrapped up tighter than any I've seen before. They're usually pretty anxious to tell us what the plot of a Zelda game is waaay before even it's last E3, but in the three (geez) years we've known this game, we haven't heard Jimminy jack-sh*t about the story, and it's less than three months to launch. Something is up. We've seen a lot of Twilight Princess, but there is one thing we haven't seen, and that would be the Twilight Princess herself. Where the hell is Zelda? We've seen one misleading glance of her in the first trailer, and a art piece where she looks pretty shady. I think the title of the game possibly gives away a key element here. Who here thinks Zelda is going to play a dark role in this game, if not possibly a villianous role?

[Kid Icarus]

I thought the whole Twilight thing involved the Twilight realm invading Hyrule... which Miyamoto said was causing Zelda to become withdrawn and depressed, because she's helpless to do anything about it.

But then again, as we saw in Ocarina Zelda's far from it...

You're right though, TMB, compared to what we knew of Wind Waker, and even Majora, we know jack **** about this games story.

[Mecha Cow]

The title character is probably Zelda or that Midna thing. There's no way Zelda will be the villain though.

[Barkworm]

Here's a ton of new screens for Tingle and Yoshi's Island 2:

http://www.g-freaks.de/index.php?id=2045&cat=5
http://www.g-freaks.de/index.php?id=2057&cat=5

I'm still a bit sceptical about Yoshi, especially after I heard that it is being developed by Artoon. The new screens look nice though. And Tingle RPG looks like it's going to be insane!

[Mecha Cow]

Yeah, Yoshi looks a bit wonky. The reused backgrounds don't match well with the new ugly sprites. Artoon has some pretty big shoes to fill, and I'm not sure they have what it takes. But who knows.

As for Tingle, I think even the haters can't deny it looks great. Bring it over Nintendo!

[Barkworm]

Super Paper Mario moved to Wii? (http://wii.ign.com/mail/)

[Peanut]

I've never even heard of Artoon, so I'm not going to make any judgements based on a developer I don't even know. The game looks like it's going to play exactly like Yoshi's Island, so I don't see how they could f*ck it up that badly. Nintendo doesn't put their big franchises in the hands of people who don't know what they're doing.

[Barkworm]

They're the same studio that made those "Blinx" games on Xbox and "Yoshi Topsy Turvy". :|

[Mecha Cow]

Nintendo doesn't put their big franchises in the hands of people who don't know what they're doing.

Star Fox. :P

And why would Super Paper Mario be moved to the Wii? It seemed pretty clear that its only reason for existing was to have one last 'Cube game. Can't say I mind if it has been moved though, maybe now they'll turn it into an actual game worthy of my cash.

[Peanut]

They're the same studio that made those "Blinx" games on Xbox and "Yoshi Topsy Turvy". :|

The first Blinx game actually had a great premise and some cool ideas, but it was rushed out in order to get something out on the Xbox. You can never blame a developer for that. There are flashes of some great mechanics in that game. If it had been given actual development time it might have turned out to be really good, as it stood, it was a good game, not even close to bad. Not in the slightest. Besides that, I'm sure you've never even played those games, so why make assumptions based on something you've never played?

As for Yoshi's Topsy Turvy, another cool game, but it was short and didn't have much susbstance. It wasn't a bad game, but once again, this was just Nintendo tossing some stuff to developers and having them rush out some quick stuff for the DS. What can you expect out of something that started as a tech demo?

Neither of those mentioned games were horrible, or even bad.

Star Fox. :P

As far as I'm aware only 3 Star Fox games have been released since Star Fox 64. Rare made Star Fox Adventures, which is a great game. Q-Games made Star Fox Command, which is completely awesome. I would guess you're talking about Star Fox Assault? Once again wasn't a completely awful game, but wasn't very good either. They had too many ambitions and wanted to go beyond what Star Fox 64 presented. That's not a bad thing. As the parts of the game that directly related to the Star Fox games of old I.E., the Arwing missions, were still pretty fun. They had a solid base to work on in that case.

You're also talking about Star Fox, not one of Nintendo's AAA titles. Yoshi's Island is an AAA title. This developer hasn't really bombed on anything if Blinx and Yoshi are what you're going to base opinions on. Then you've got the fact that they have an amazingly solid engine to work with. It looks like the only thing they're adding is a couple extra moves to do with the babies Yoshi happens to be carrying at the time. I don't think they'll mess this one up. Has Nintendo ever disappointed with something like this? I don't think so.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I think the Yoshi sprite is oversized, but other than that, I have no complaints. All those screens are somming from the first three trial stages on the E3 demo anyways. Play control wise, it was Yoshi's Island. Every move, everyflutter jump, and every little engine quirk was exactly the same.

The only thing that concerns me is the music. It's like people can't write good video game soundtracks anymore. Yoshi's Island had some of the best, so here's hoping it lives up to the audio standard.

[Barkworm]

You're right, I've never played any of those games, I simply looked up some reviews on gamerankings.com. You know how much I love Yoshi's Island, when I find out that some no-name studio which did nothing but (supposedly) mediocre games I get sceptical. And what I've seen so far definitely lacks the magic of Yoshi's Island. Just adapting the exact same gameplay won't be enough for this one.

[Mecha Cow]

No need to get so defensive, Peanut. We're just being cautious, is all.

[Peanut]

I wasn't being defensive, just proving a point. You guys know I don't bother with smilies or pretty language, so I always seem pissed off. WELL I'M NOT!

My only worry is the same as TMB's. The music. I thought the music in NSMB was lacking, and that was written by lord Kondo himself. It's going to be hard to come close to the music in Yoshi's Island though. That stuff is god-like.

[Cure]

Spore is coming to Wii according to this mailbag from IGN.

Click here. (http://wii.ign.com/mail/)

[ThirdMarioBro]

Uhh, no. The only themes Kondo touched in New SMB were the main overworld theme, the "Athletic" version, and the classic underworld music. The rest were by the guy who did the music to Yoshi's Story.


I do know one things though. Nintendo dropped a notch on my scale of respect when they began farming out their franchises en' mass. Just what do they do by themselves anymore? New SMB was first party, but too much of the others were farmed out. After Star Fox, I'm starting to get pissed off.

[Peanut]

Uhh, no. The only themes Kondo touched in New SMB were the main overworld theme, the "Athletic" version, and the classic underworld music. The rest were by the guy who did the music to Yoshi's Story.


Yeah, but what the hell else is there in that game? The overworld theme plays in almost every level.

And what other big games has Nintendo farmed out besides Star Fox? I don't think any of the crappy sports titles or sh*t like that matters. As long as Nintendo is making Mario and Zelda on there own, what else is there?

[ThirdMarioBro]

F-Zero GX was farmed out....but...uh, that game was god.


You win.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://wii.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=7474

My latest article: basically a collection of all my b*tching about DRM and digital distribution from the past year. Tell me what you think.

[Kid Icarus]

Good read, as usual, Lucas.

[Ecto Jedi]

Nintendo doesn't put their big franchises in the hands of people who don't know what they're doing.

*Ahem!* Zelda: Wand of Gamelon?

[Peanut]

Oh come on. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Those were under completely different circumstances and it was so long ago that it doesn't even matter. They also weren't farming out the Zelda franchise for this company to make sequels. They were just doing it to get some crap out for that sh*t system. They're not even Nintendo games.

[Ecto Jedi]

Oh come on. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Those were under completely different circumstances and it was so long ago that it doesn't even matter. They also weren't farming out the Zelda franchise for this company to make sequels. They were just doing it to get some crap out for that sh*t system. They're not even Nintendo games.

Wow, we're being awfully defensive for something that, "doesn't even matter," no? Tsk, tsk... :lol:

'Precious.

[Kid Icarus]

*Ahem!* Zelda: Wand of Gamelon?

... read up on **** before you try to talk about it, k?

I also like how you only have ONE of the CDi games mentioned.

Classic.

[Peanut]

Wow, we're being awfully defensive for something that, "doesn't even matter," no? Tsk, tsk... :lol:

'Precious.

Once again, not being defensive. I just don't try to make my words sound nice. I also don't like when people talk about stuff they don't understand.

Edit: Wow. Ubisoft is really showing the Wii love. http://wii.ign.com/articles/731/731810p1.html

[愛]

Is it bad that I kinda wanna get this game? >_<

http://www.gamespot.com/ds/puzzle/cookingmama/index.html?q=cooking%20mama

[The Clerk]

Is it bad that I kinda wanna get this game? >_<

http://www.gamespot.com/ds/puzzle/cookingmama/index.html?q=cooking%20mama



no, because now I kinda want it.


:D

[Kid Icarus]

Import Get!

[Ecto Jedi]

... read up on **** before you try to talk about it, k?

What the hell am I doing, writing a thesis? :roll:

[愛]

Sigh...I hate doing the mod thing.

Everyone cut it out. Get back on another topic.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Now I want it too. Argh, there's not enough money in the world for this Winter. :lol:

[Peanut]

Old news, Gangstas. I'll be getting it on Tuesday. Both my girlfriend and my sister have been fiending for it since E3. Hopefully it'll hit along with Mario Basketball 3 on 3 and NHL 07 on the same day, if so, heaven. As if I wasn't already having a gaming orgy with Star Fox Command, Saint's Row, Enchanted Arms and Trauma Center for the last little while. It's been an amazing start to the big game season so far!

[ThirdMarioBro]

DAMN, I love me some Winter gaming action. The cold season rules.

[Peanut]

No doubt, foo! It would be nice if I could get my hands on Trauma Center though. My girlfriend is obsessed. She won't put it down. She's even been checking out FAQs for it and everything.

Also, I just remembered Lego Star Wars II hits on Tuesday as well. I loved the first one, but I don't know if I'm gonna have the cash flow to hit up 4 games in a single day, not that I haven't done it before...:D

[Kid Icarus]

FYI, Super Mario Bros. on a 52 inch big screen is teh win. God I love this new TV.

I'm depending on my roommates to pick up the new games... it's fun being broke, and I need to save up for Wii's launch... I guess a new DDR's comming out on the 26th. They'll be getting that. And then Guitar Hero 2's out pretty soon too.

And then Final Fantasy 3...

[Ecto Jedi]

I'm depending on my roommates to pick up the new games... it's fun being broke, and I need to save up for Wii's launch... I guess a new DDR's comming out on the 26th. They'll be getting that. And then Guitar Hero 2's out pretty soon too.

When is the Wii coming out again?

[R-iZZy]

^ November 2006 is the target month. Rumors are they'll reveal the release date on either September 14th or 15th.

[Kid Icarus]

The date hasn't been set yet. At this point no one knows. Nintendo has a big press confrence on the 14th in Japan, and in the US, and then a third for Europe on the 15th.

If they wait any longer then that, it's going to really hurt their opening sales...

[ThirdMarioBro]

AMN has been unable to confirm the authenticity of this list. That noted, we’ve included the list below for our readers. Please consider this list nothing more than a rumor until official word from Nintendo.

* Bonk's Adventure
* Castlevania
* Duck Hunt
* Excitebike
* F-Zero
* Kid Icarus
* Legend of Zelda, The
* Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
* Mario Kart 64
* Metroid
* Mortal Kombat
* New Adventure Island
* Ninja Gaiden
* OutRun
* Pac-Man
* Prince of Persia
* Punch-Out
* R-Type
* Rayman 2
* Sonic the Hedgehog
* Star Fox
* Super Mario 64
* Super Mario Bros
* Super Mario Kart
* Super Mario World
* Tecmo Bowl


Stay tuned for the latest.

source: Play-Nintendo

That's the rumored launch list for the VC. I like how they've only chosen Mario titles that launched with a Nintendo console. A tasteful choice if I do say so. Super Mario World is my favorite Mario game, so win. I'm glad both of the original king supreme Mario Karts will be available as well. Here's hoping those rumors of N64 games being optimised is true. Mario Kart 64 at 60FPS in progressive scan (a feature all VC games support)? Fu*k YEAH! Nice selection of timeless third party games are there as well. I never played Bonk, and I've never owned Punch Out. This is going to be a blast. That is a killer launch list. F-Zero and Outrun on day one. For the 'effing WIN! There's only one thing that could piss on that list, and that is Mortal Kombat. Here's hoping that's the Midway arcade original and NOT the Super NES version (or color-less Genesis version for that matter). We all know what a stink that caused.

Sonic the Hedgehog at a Nintendo launch. Sends chills down my spine. :D

Also, it's confirmed that Nintendo is packaging Wii hardware for sale, and hiring 70+ more people to speed up the process. This tells me launch is comming sooner than later.

[Peanut]

It's an ok list. Not really the blow-out I was expecting, but still pretty good. I'll probably be getting all the Mario's, both Zelda's, New Adventure Island and Bonk's Adventure. I remember renting Bonk at least 20 times from my local video store when I was a kid. And New Adventure Island is a pleasent surprise. The original Adventure Island on NES was a source of many fits of screaming when I was a kid. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't New Adventure Island a Turbografix game? If so, it's the one I'm thinking about and it makes me super excited that it will be available.

[Kid Icarus]

The list was already debunked...

I'd like a little more variation in the game list. The majority of those are platformer or adventure titles.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, fu*k. The ESRB leaked out the real Sega list of launch VC titles, and well....look.

# Ecco The Dolphin
# Altered Beast
# Toe Jam & Earl
# Golden Axe
# Columns
# Sonic the Hedgehog
# Ristar

Ecco is good, but not earth shattering. Altered Beast, Golden Axe, and Columns can eat sh*t and die for all I care. Rister.....meh. The only two things I'd buy there are Sonic and Toe Jam & Earl.


Might I also add, I've bought a lot of this crap in compliation discs, but barring any overbearing DRM, I will buy all this sh*t again, but it will be the LAST time. I'm never paying money for these games again after these purchases. Not that I expect to have to buy them again, but you never know. Anyways, this is the last time.

[GK Punk]

wasn't New Adventure Island a Turbografix game? If so, it's the one I'm thinking about and it makes me super excited that it will be available.

Yes, I do believe so. I also believe it was on a SCD instead of a chip. I can't remember for sure, though. I'm hoping they'll make a way for you to be able to download/buy SCD Turbo Grafix games. Valis 3, on my Wii? It's more likely than you think.

[Peanut]

# Ecco The Dolphin
# Altered Beast
# Toe Jam & Earl
# Golden Axe
# Columns
# Sonic the Hedgehog
# Ristar


Ick. I'd buy Toe Jam & Earl and Golden Axe, maybe. For sure TJ&E though. I already own all the best Sonic games on Xbox with Sonic Mega Collection Plus, so I'm not too worried about that. Honestly, the Sega portion of the VC is the least interesting to me.

[Kid Icarus]

Altered Beast and Golden Axe are about it... I own Sonic the Hedgehog on Genesis and the mega collection.

TJ&E is a maybe... depends what else is on the list.

[Krang]

Well, fu*k. The ESRB leaked out the real Sega list of launch VC titles, and well....look.
# Sonic the Hedgehog
# Ristar
If I didn't already own the original Genesis cartridges for these, I would definitely buy them. Some of you may not know what Ristar is, but in my opinion, it is one of the best and most underrated platformers. Also, I would have liked to see at least one of the Streets of Rage games on that list, but it's not too late to add them later.

Yes, I do believe so. I also believe it was on a SCD instead of a chip. I can't remember for sure, though. I'm hoping they'll make a way for you to be able to download/buy SCD Turbo Grafix games.
Speaking of the TG-16, I wonder if they'll put Parasol Stars on the VC? Not very likely, but you never know...

[GK Punk]

Man, I klnew there had to be atleast one other TG-16 player here. Oh how I love that system!

But yeah, I really hope they do. I don't think it'd be hard for them to build an emulator running off the ISO Files, which I hope is what they'll end up doing. Kind of like how a lot of Genesis Emus will run the ISO's like ROMs.

[Peanut]

If I didn't already own the original Genesis cartridges for these, I would definitely buy them. Some of you may not know what Ristar is, but in my opinion, it is one of the best and most underrated platformers.


I also agree. Ristar is a really cool game. Another one I have on SMC+. I was going to say Comix Zone would be another cool Genesis game to have, until I remembered that was on SMC+ as well.

I think just about everything has been covered somewhere else, or will be. Streets of Rage is one that definately needs to be on there, though. It's mysteriously missing from the Sega comp coming to the PSP.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, the CD Audio on those things would be a nightmare when it comes to filesize, but if they could find some way to do it with a smaller format, then trick the emulator into reading those instead, they could get the ISO's down to 50 Megs or something managable. It's been done with Sega CD before, so I'm sure Hudson and Nintendo could think of something.

Seriously, I never owned a Turbografx/PC Engine, so I'm going to download the crap out of those games. Brand new experience for me. What are some of the best titles?

[Dr. Doom]

w00t 4 teh rist4rz

[Peanut]

Seriously, I never owned a Turbografx/PC Engine, so I'm going to download the crap out of those games. Brand new experience for me. What are some of the best titles?

Uh...lolz...Bonk? Bloody Wolf? Ninja Gaiden? I can hardly remember any of those games. I think I had a TurboGraphix for like a year.

And that also reminds me, which version of Ninja Gaiden will be released? NES? TurboGrafix? LYNX!?!?!

Also, are there going to be Sega CD games on the VC? I can't remember what Sega consoles they were planning on including. If so...I want The Secret of Monkey Island...now!

[GK Punk]

The TG16 Gaiden game wasn't released in the US, but the Japanese one had built in translation activated by a code.

Honestly, I have tons of TG-16 ISO's and most of them are around 30ish megs. As for what are the best, Exile, Valis 1 (Not released in US) Valis 3, Valis 4 (Also not released in the US) The Y'S series, Cosmic Fantasy, I'm sure there are lots more that Im not remembering.

[愛]

This isn't for Nintendo, but this seems like the only sensible place to put it.

I'm definitely buying Okami when it comes out. I've watched gameplay videos on it, and also watched the preview on On the Spot a while back, and it looks so whacked out, I gotta have it. The brush feature is crazy, and you get to be a wolf who can do combos. I really like the style of art in the game, too.

Anyone else gonna buy it? I'm guessing no. :(

[Mecha Cow]

That game looks really good, but even after the recent pricedrop, the PS2 is still €130. >:

[Barkworm]

I'm super-hyped for Okami. It will be mine!!!

[愛]

Yeah! *high-fives over the internet* That's what I'm talking about!

[Peanut]

I actually think it would be a better fit for the Wii. There have been some rumors that that just might happen.

[愛]

It would be a nice fit with the paintbrush and the Wii controller, I definitely agree. Maybe I'll buy the game again! :o

[Barkworm]

That would be awesome. Anyway, I need to have it release day. I've been following every preview since it was announced and I can't wait to finally get my hands on it.

[Peanut]

I've got too much going on in the next-gen to have time for Okami. The only thing I'm going back to last-gen for will be GH2 and GoW2.

You guys need to suck it up and get a 360.

[愛]

I have money now, but not enough for 360. It just may have to be a Christmas thing. Sucks. But at least I'll have enough games to get for that Christmas, das gud amirite?

[Dr. Doom]

And now for your Daily Affirmation with host, GameFAQs Poll of The Day.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/TobiasFenrir/GameFAQspoll9-13-06.jpg

Wii: I'm good enough, I'm smart enough...and doggonit, people like me!

PS3: -=emosadface=-

EDIT: I guess I should have waited till later, the numbers are still low. Oh well, you get the idea.

[GK Punk]

Wow, even the biggest group of PS Fanboys are all about Wii? Crazy.

[Barkworm]

I've got too much going on in the next-gen to have time for Okami. The only thing I'm going back to last-gen for will be GH2 and GoW2.

You guys need to suck it up and get a 360.
You're kinda right, I'm really getting bored with this/last gen. Nevertheless at the moment there's no game I want as badly as Okami (except Zelda) and I won't get an XBox before the price drops even though I have the money.

[ThirdMarioBro]

You're kinda right, I'm really getting bored with this/last gen. Nevertheless at the moment there's no game I want as badly as Okami (except Zelda) and I won't get an XBox before the price drops even though I have the money.

Buy the 360 now. I want to play Gears of War with you this Christmas.

And just what is Okami?


And when did Mario Hoops 3on3 drop online play? Did that just slip under the radar? Dammit, I wanted to play that one online. It was just that much fun at E3. Ignore IGN's review. They're comparing it to sims.

And Mega Man ZX looks like something I might want to get into, even if I absoultely HATE the anime art style. Baby faced X Models I can live without. Mega Man X used to look so badass :(


Badass:
http://maxpages.com/files/mmx/x4armor.gif

Emo:
http://pics.fort90.com/journal/zx2.jpg

*Edit*


Also, launch might be hitting sometime sooner than we think. Wal-Mart's website just started preorders for Wii (anoyone who preorders at a Wal-Mart is suicidal btw), but some of the titles have a Oct. 24th date posted on them. Strange?

[Barkworm]

Buy the 360 now. I want to play Gears of War with you this Christmas.
While I really want to play "Gears" I'm not willing to pay more than 300 bucks for a video game system. Besides I'm waiting for the release of Bioshock and maybe those Mistwalker games.

And just what is Okami?
This wonderful little game. (http://ps2.ign.com/objects/678/678618.html)

[Kid Icarus]

PGC did some math regarding those 150 job postings for people to package Wii.

It was something along the lines that by the end of next month they might be able to have over 1.2 million systems packed up and ready to go, and that wasn't assuming they arn't packaging anywhere else and that was just on those 150 people.

My guess, Nintendo's set up plants in each area with some of their regular staffers and some new temp people. In all honesty they might be able to have around 4 mil ready for launch world over.

[Peanut]

You're kinda right, I'm really getting bored with this/last gen. Nevertheless at the moment there's no game I want as badly as Okami (except Zelda) and I won't get an XBox before the price drops even though I have the money.

You'll be waiting for a long time. 360 isn't going to drop price for awhile. It's doing too well at where it is already. There'll probably be some game pack-in's for christmas though.

As for the Wii, we'll know everything tomorrow guys. Isn't that huge Europe/Japan/NA Nintendo event supposed to happen on Thursday? I believe so. We're going to know everything by then.

And, Barky...those Mistwalker games do look totally cool. I love the style of Blue Dragon. I'm expecting to see a bunch of it at TGS.

Those DS games..meeeeh. I was going to get Mario Hoops, but I played it and wasn't at all impressed. It looks insane, but graphics don't make the game, especially when it comes to the DS. Mega Man just looks waaaay too stupid for me to get into. Besides, now that I have my beautiful NHL game for the season, it's time to start saving for that Wii. I've already got my Wii fund up to $900 CDN, so I'm well prepared.

[Barkworm]

And, Barky...those Mistwalker games do look totally cool. I love the style of Blue Dragon
You do? You realize the designs are from the Dragonball dude? :lol:
Anyway, I have the suspicion that it might suck. Blue Dragon is supposed to come out this year but no one knows how the game will play since there are zero gameplay videos for it. :ohwell:
Oh, and I'll probably get my 360 from India. It'll be released there soon and we're going there next year to visit our family. Hopefully it will be significantly cheaper. It's a developing country, dammit!!!

[Kid Icarus]

Japan's confrence is actually in a few hours... we'll know the Japanese details tonight, and from there we can get a good idea of what prices are going to be like here.

And if we don't get any details from these confrences... I'm setting the internet on fire.

[Peanut]

You do? You realize the designs are from the Dragonball dude? :lol:
Anyway, I have the suspicion that it might suck. Blue Dragon is supposed to come out this year but no one knows how the game will play since there are zero gameplay videos for it. :ohwell:

Yeah, I know, but they're more cartoony.

Nothing has been shown of Blue Dragon yet just because Microsoft wants to hold something back. My guess is it'll show up at TGS.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Japan's confrence is actually in a few hours... we'll know the Japanese details tonight, and from there we can get a good idea of what prices are going to be like here.

And if we don't get any details from these confrences... I'm setting the internet on fire.

Yeah, I assume the beefy stuff will be up tonight. I want some infor on Mario Galaxy and the Virtual Console. The rest kind of fills itself in. I also want the damn Classic controller packed in, but I'm mostly worried about the DRm they'll be using on the SD cards, and the fact that I know Nintendo will be selling SD cards of their own makes me worried as hell (proprietary sh*t). They could just be trying to make extra money tricking Grandma on this shopping season, but you don't charge $69.95 for a 1G SD card unless something rotten is up. You can get the generic stuff from Lexar at half that price, and I've run those suckers through the washer several times. The invincible. I HAAAAAATE proprietary storage mediums. Hate them. I'm also worried that we'll never see any of those old Japanese Nintendo games that were never released outside Japan thanks to the damned ESRB system. They'll region lock us. I can smell it.

# 8:00PM (Wednesday) - 2:00AM (Thursday) EDT
# 5:00PM (Wednesday) - 11:00PM (Wednesday) PDT
# 1:00AM (Thursday) - 7:00AM (Thursday) GMT/UTC
# 2:00AM (Thursday) - 8:00AM (Thursday) BST
# 10:00AM (Thursday) - 4:00PM (Thursday) Japan Time

I somehow get the sinking feeling some of this info isn't going to make me all that happy. Also having to sit through nearly an hour of bloody DS sales figures before they give us the goods is going to get boring as hell.

[Peanut]

I have to stay up until 2 AM? MAN, F*CK THIS SH*T!

And why would the ESRB system lock out imported games?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Because an American rating system couldn't apply to Japanese non-localized software.

[Peanut]

But why not? The ESRB can just rate them and I'm sure there wouldn't be any problems.

[Kid Icarus]

Some things are pretty normal in Japan would turn heads here, and I'm sure we've got stuff that would make them do a double take...

They could always put the games up as unrated with a warning about possible content problems though. That would work.

[Peanut]

I still don't see why the ESRB can't just give them ratings? The just went back and listed ratings for some of the Sega games set to be released on the VC, so why not some Japanese games? They're going to have to go back and rate a bunch of stuff anyways. It's not like the ESRB has been around for 20 years.

[GK Punk]

Especially since to rate them alls they do is watch videos of the games strongest content, and then base the rating off of that alone. It should be easy for them to rate them.

[Peanut]

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/821/821585/vids_1.html

Rayman trailer. Looks weird as hell. I'm disappointed that it looks like a bunch of mini-games. I thought I was actually going to get to play a platformer again. :(

[ThirdMarioBro]

No. It's Mario Party with a sense of humor.

[Kid Icarus]

Speaking of that game... who's ever played Mario Drinking Party?

[愛]

Guess I'll post the info.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6157572.html?tag=topslot;action;1

$250. November 19th. We got this.

[Kid Icarus]

I was really hoping for $200, but I'll live. Just means I'll buy one less game at launch.

[愛]

I just wanna throw this link in here, because it's just way too funny.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6157566.html?tag=latestnews;title;4

[ThirdMarioBro]

Over priced (screw the fanbase), too late, after PS3 launch, and no Mario.


Mark me as pissed.

[愛]

You gotta be dumb if you were expecting anything below $250. Just think of the development taken into this new console, and the controller technology.

It's not too late. Yeah, it's past PS3, but that sh*t is gonna bomb, anyway, so let me go get my careface...oh wait, I lost it.

What I do not like, however, is the uncertainty of Twilight Princess as a launch title. Mario can wait. I want my Zelda.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The story is getting pulled everywhere. Soemthing is up.


And if they delay goddamn Zelda again, I'm not getting Wii at launch. I've taken enough sh*t.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Confirmed: Wii will use Points cards for VC, or credit cards.

500 yen for NES games, 800 yen for SNES games, 100 yen for N64 games. ($5, $8, $10)

30 VC games by end of year, 10 new games online every month. Add MSX to the console list.

1:55 p.m. [update 8]: And the other shoe drops. Famitsu is reporting a December 2 launch and 25,000 yen ($215.51) price for Japan.

[Peanut]

Nintendo is brilliant. Launching the Wii two days after the PS3 is an awesome strategy. That inital PS3 shipment is gone on day one, so what happens when all the whiny brats can't get their PS3? The Wii will be waiting. They're also going to be right there for the huge North American shopping season. There are going to be a ton of kids getting a Wii this Christmas.

[Kid Icarus]

Or, knowing that Sony could convince the retarded public into buying a burning bag of horse ****, Wii is going to be totally over shadowed.

Either way, that's going to be a very interesting week...

[Peanut]

No. It won't be. PS3 will come out, it'll be talked about for 2 days, then they'll all be gone and the first 400,000 people who bought it will have to return them because they broke. Then the Wii will come out...and everyone will have nothing to play because there's no Zelda.

P.S. Why isn't everyone on MSN for a round-table discussion on this?

[GK Punk]

I have to agree with Peanut on this, that's brilliant market stragy there. Especially since, as he said, Each Sony console released as severe problems up to this point on their first run.

[Barkworm]

They've just announced that Zelda will be available at launch!
EDIT:
Wiimote: Yen 3.800 (Euro 25 / USD 32)
Nunchuck Controller: Yen 1.800 (Euro 12 / USD 15)
http://www.gfdata.de/archiv09-2006-gamefront/wiipreview-09.jpg (Copy and paste)

[ThirdMarioBro]

Thank you Jesus.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/topics/wii_preview/movie/lineup.html

[Peanut]

Pretty much everything you need to know until our own conferences can be found right here.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/14/nintendo-japan-conference-not-so-liveblogging/

[Barkworm]

I think it's interesting that the classic controller won't cost more than the nunchuck attachement. It also seems weird that the Japanese won't get Wii sports bundles.

[Mecha Cow]

$250 is a good price, no-one really should have expected much less. It's a real shame that you don't get a second controller in the box, but the Wii Sports pack-in is nice (And us Euro's better get it too).

I don't get why they are selling the remote and nunchuck units seperately though. We all know most games will require both. I have a feeling Nintendo has some evil milking schemes in store, though I suppose they wouldn't be Nintendo if they didn't.

*E* A Shin Chan game? Awesome.

*E²* I see Link is right-handed now. I will assume this is because of the Wii control scheme before I crucify Aonuma. I also see and hear more fanservice, sinister stares and deep voices. I will not comment and instead point out how polished the game looks.

[Barkworm]

http://wii.ign.com/articles/732/732678p1.html
LOL, Kirby, Super Paper Mario and that Donkey Konga racer have all been moved to Wii. R.I.P GameCube.

[R-iZZy]

They've just announced that Zelda will be available at launch!
EDIT:
Wiimote: Yen 3.800 (Euro 25 / USD 32)
Nunchuck Controller: Yen 1.800 (Euro 12 / USD 15)
http://www.gfdata.de/archiv09-2006-gamefront/wiipreview-09.jpg (Copy and paste)
*drops to the floor*

SALVATION! Geez0rz. The price kind of took me by surprise, considering I was anticipating a $200 tag, but $250 isn't so bad. As long as I get Twilight Princess at launch, I'm good.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The motherfu*kers delayed Metroid.
DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



*sigh*

[Mecha Cow]

Wii is region free (http://blog.wired.com/games/index.blog?entry_id=1556591). Good news for importers.

New Zelda screens (http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748589/imgs_1.html). Killer graphics, but that HUD is abysmal. Wii version comes out Nov. 19th, GC version Dec. 11th (...).

[ThirdMarioBro]

DVD Support has been pulled. Not that it matters much, but still. Also, they're not allowing taping of Red Steel today because Ubisoft said so.

[Peanut]

WTF, man. They said Nintendo is going to have just Zelda and Excitetruck at launch. Where the f*ck is Wario Ware? Stupid Nintendo. :(

Edit: Zelda, SMW, SM64 and Donkey Kong available on launch day.

NES - 500 Wii points
SNES - 800 Wii points
N64 - 1,000 Wii points

All of these are starting at points too, so some will probably be more expensive. 500 points equal to $5 USD. Just like MS points.

Edit 2: LOLZ! Dude is making Sam Jackson in the Mii thing. hahaha

Edit 3: These Wii channels look really cool. This press conference is hyping me the hell up.

[Spitfire]

Man guys chill, they delay a few games big ass deal. You want them to rush **** and then fall flat on their ass like Sony, or take their sweet ass time and put out some crap that will really impress people?

I'd prefere they take their time. If I need to wait an extra few months to get a game that is amazing I'll do it. They don't delay it because their assholes they delay it because they want to make it better.

[Barkworm]

$40 for a Wiimote + another $20 for a nunchuck???!!!! :o

[Peanut]

I don't give a sh*t about Metroid. That game sucks, but I want Wario Ware.

[Spitfire]

To be honest most of Nintendo's first party games as funa s they are don't really make it into my collection. I had Sunshine and Windwaker last gen and I sold them. The only Nintendo games I have now are Smash Brothers, Mario Tennis, and Strikers. All of which I'm quite bored with at this point but their good party games.

Now that I have a 360 though no one*Myself included* Wants to play anything on my cube or PS2. We always play Ghost Recon, Fight Night 3, or The Outfit*Shut up we like Freedom Fighters and this is the next best thing <_<*.

I wanted a Wii until I got a 360 cause I did plan on getting both. But now that I got a 360 I don't see a need for a Wii. But if I see enough impressive titles being put on it I guess I'll get one...

[Kid Icarus]

Damn. Zelda and Metroid would have been one ****ing AMAZING launch.

Looks like I'll be getting Zelda and Red Steel instead.

Edit: No region lock is a good thing. I can tell Japan's going to have some crazy games for Wii that I'll want.

[Peanut]

Well you like sh*tty games...sooo....yeah. I don't think anyone is really going to care if you stick with one console, but those of us who don't want to are having some convo in here, so if you're just going to make pointless comments then you may as well leave.

Edit: I'm disappointed with what Nintendo is offering on launch day. I might end up getting Excite Truck just because it's there. Other than Trauma Center, none of the 3rd part stuff intrests me.

[Barkworm]

Is no one else disappointed by the Wiimote price?

[Peanut]

Not really. We pay like $70 for Wavebirds here, so I'm not hurting. It's not like I'm going to buy 4 of them anyways.

[Mecha Cow]

Yeah, I am, especially considering they'll just change those little $'s to €'s like always. I guess we will know all the EU info tomorrow.

[Dr. Doom]

I'm disappointed with what Nintendo is offering on launch day.

Is no one else disappointed by the Wiimote price?

Yes and yes.

The launch titles aren't that strong in my opinion. Only thing I really want is Zelda, and we're all pretty much being forced into getting the Wii version because of the delay on the GC version. Nothing else at launch really jumps out at me as like "omfg, I must have that." Certainly that doesn't mean that I couldn't be suprised by anything, but I'm still not very impresed. Hopefully more will have come out by my birthday/x-mas.

As far as the Wiimote goes, I gues it IS a pretty sophisticated controller... I think they want to encourage people to use their Wiimote and only their Wiimote because it seems like it'llk hold your personal info and such. Obviously the price makes it difficult to play stuff with friends if they don't have a Wii, but I guess that's also where the online play comes in. Oh well, I'll probably get just one more.

[Spitfire]

Is no one else disappointed by the Wiimote price?
$40 bucks isn't bad for a controller. A 360 controller is 40 wired and 50 wireless plus another 12 if youw ant a battery pack for it so you don't need to buy any. And 20 for a charge kit if you don't have one already.

Well you like sh*tty games...sooo....yeah. I don't think anyone is really going to care if you stick with one console, but those of us who don't want to are having some convo in here, so if you're just going to make pointless comments then you may as well leave.
I'm sorry my game tastes don't match yours but that has nothing to do with my point. And the only game I could see anyone not liking in my 360 collection is The Outfit so I have no idea why you think Ghost Recon and Fight Night are ******.

[Peanut]

I think it's funny we're all actually complaining about a Nintendo console launching with a Legend of Zelda game. I guess I was just hoping for something Mario releated for launch, as well as Wario Ware, which I fiend for.

Edit: Ghost Recon is alright, but for when your friends come over? Come on. And Fight Night has nothing beyond graphics. My point was no one cares that you think the Wii is pointless. We're talking about the specifics of it right now, not about how you and you're friends don't play anything besides some crappy 360 games.

[Mecha Cow]

Nah, it's $40 plus another $20 for the nunchuck unit (Which I assume is required for most games).

*E* Can you use a GC controller instead of a 'classic' one btw?

[Dr. Doom]

And does the classic controller come with the system like previously suggested?

[Mecha Cow]

It doesn't. The only extra as far as I know is Wii Sports.

[Peanut]

No VC controller, but we've seen GC ports on the Wii before, so I would guess you can use it for Wii games. The VC controller is supposed to retail for the same price as a nunchuku attachment though, so that's not bad at all.

[ThirdMarioBro]

**** the GameCube controller. I hate the bloody thing, and I always will. Bloody jellybean buttons. H.A.T.E. them passionately. I'm not even using it for Smash, even if I am used to it. Back to the classic A,B,X,Y baby.

Metroid has me pissed, but I found out they are delaying it to add the Mouse/Keyboard type setup we all envisioned for Wii FPS control, so I'm happy here. We'll probobly see it February or March which isn't too bad. Mario only pisses me off because of tradition. And yes, to get Zelda at launch (and on of this caliber) is astounding. People (including myself) are only complaining because it's a year late, but who cares. I'm just pleased with it.

I think the VC prices are a "tad" too high, but I can live with it just fine. Could have been MUUUUCH worse. They reassured my fear that we can use standard SD cards for storage (thank you Jesus), and the Mii Persoinality thing is just cool. As for no region lock....

FUUUUUUUUUUUC* YYYYEEEEAAAAHHHH!!!!

You have no idea how happy this makes me. It means region locks basically just died with the PS2, GameCube, and for the most part, Xbox. May the smog riseth, we are free and clear baby. I can live with the price of the controllers too, and I believe the Wii-motes come with a nunchucku in the box, but they are selling them sepreatrely in case you loose or break it. That's more than cool.


The only thing I'm going to unrelentingly b*tch about is Wario Ware. I was looking forward to making a complete ass out of myself playing that sucker. Japan gets it at launch, so why don't we? Same thing happened with the DS. Delayed for no reason. Bastards.



Now, the hardest part begins. The actual wait to launch.

*goes to finish off Metroid Prime 2*

[Peanut]

So...Wii with not region lock...does that mean we can import old GCN games to play on it, as well as new Wii games? If so, that's pretty cool. I don't really care, but still cool.

[Kid Icarus]

Japan launches nearly a month after we do TMB... that might be why they get it first.

I'd import Donkey Konga 1&2 from Japan in a heartbeat if my Wii can run Japanese Gamecube games.

This also bodes well for unreleased VC games too. For what we're getting now $250 isn't bad at all. $200 minus Wii Sports would have been better, but eh.

EDIT: Cheap SD card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820160032 1GB for just over $20 shipped.

[ThirdMarioBro]

You're right. I wasn't thinking stright.

Also, the Kirby game has been moved, along with DK Bongo Blast (phew). Mario Party 8 showed up, but it's in house this time. HUDSON HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. Thank God.

[The Clerk]

Mario Party games suck.

[Spitfire]

Guess having friends is a concept for ya isn't it?

[Peanut]

The first two didn't.

[The Clerk]

oh, me and my friends have played it.

It was alright... not really. We would play Fuzion Frenzy instead.


Sonic Shuffle > Mario Party any day of the week.

[Kid Icarus]

Hudson made Mario Party suck...

Maybe your friends just arn't into fun?

Anyway, yeah. Never did make it to reserve my console, but I got a phone call from Gamestop today letting me know all the launch info. Haha.

[Peanut]

It was alright... not really. We would play Fuzion Frenzy instead.


Wow, dude...and you're sitting there and telling me Mario Party sucked? Even the worst Mario Party is 10 times better than the pos that is Fuzion Frenzy.

Anyways, anyone heard the news about Red Steel's sword fights becoming 100% free-form, rather than a preset move list? If that's true, I'll get it. For sure. MP has 3 degrees of look sensitivity that makes movement, especially turning, mouse/keyboard fast, so hopefully Red Steel follows suit. That and the sword fighting were the two things that bothered me about the game, so if they fixed those things...look out. BTW the new Red Steel trailer...wow. Looks totally sweet.

Edit:....damn you, Nintendo. http://media.wii.ign.com/media/826/826990/img_3914405.html This screen for Wario Ware TAUNTS ME! DAMN YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL!

Ubisoft announced a new PoP game for Wii too...I want this so badly.

[ThirdMarioBro]

ANAIMAL CROSSING 9-VOLT! For the fu*king win.


http://wii.advancedmn.com/images/media/sonicwildfire_025.jpg

http://wii.advancedmn.com/images/media/sonicwildfire_022.jpg

http://wii.advancedmn.com/images/media/sonicwildfire_020.jpg



Sonic wins.

[Peanut]

He sure does.

So, what are everyones launch lists looking like? As in what will you be getting? So far I've got the Wii itself, Zelda, Red Steel, Trauma Center and maybe one more random game. As for extra's, an extra remote and nunchuku attachment, a VC controller, 2 Wii point cards, and a Wii branded SD card if they release one.

[Dr. Doom]

Wait, is Sonic a launch title?

[R-iZZy]

The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
Madden NFL '07
Red Steel

I want those launch titles as soon as I cop the Wii! OMG, I'm just peaking at those Sonic screenshots. Bajeezers!

*goes back a page and notices the new Zelda screens*

Okay, someone get the bucket of water and wake me up, immediately!

[ThirdMarioBro]

No, Sonic isn't launch. Probobly around March or April.
----

My launch list (my poor wallet)

1. Nintendo Wii console
2. Space controller/nunchucku
3. Classic Controller
4. 3 Wii Points Cards (maybe four)
5. Zelda: Twilight Princess
6. Red Steel (new sword controls confirmed. That's why they forbat flming today. WIN)
7. Wario Ware Smooth Moves
8. Excite-Truck
9. Whatever I have money left for. I want that ubisoft steering wheel.

I'm already getting myself a 4-Gig card. The Nintendo cards only go up to 1-Gig. This way I'll only ever need one.

[Dr. Doom]

I forgot about Marvel UA. I'll definately be all over that.

[The Clerk]

I forgot about Marvel UA. I'll definately be all over that.



That game looks amazing.... but i'll be purchasing that for 360. :D



Isn't there like a music game for the Wii launch where you conduct the band or something?

[Kid Icarus]

Why get the 360 version when the Wii's going to have vastly supperior controlls?

Oh wait. People still take graphics over gameplay. My bad.

Anyway, money allowing...


Wii system
Extra Wiimote
Extra analog attachment
Zelda Wii
Red Steel


the rest depends on what else is out there. I'd like at least one more game, but we'll see. I doubt I'll even have enough saved up for what's on that list. In that case I'll be going with Zelda over Red Steel, and cutting out the extra controller.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748547/vids_1.html

Sweet Mother....Brain. Just...wow.

Jesus, I need this game. Now. Thank you. This just hit top of my list. They fixed the controls. I'm talking in bursts now. Shocked.

METROID FUC*ING PRIME

[The Clerk]

Why get the 360 version when the Wii's going to have vastly supperior controlls?

Oh wait. People still take graphics over gameplay. My bad.




Did I say it was because of the graphics? No, I didn't. :D

I am simply going to buy it for 360 because I love the controller and the system. I don't care much for the motion censor controller. Hopefully my mind will change when I get the Wii but as for now I am liking the 360 controller more for the fact that I don't need to move my arms to move my character. It's not a matter of being lazy, because I'm not, it's a matter if I wanna lay down on my stomach and play a game, lol.

[Kid Icarus]

Did I say it was because of the graphics? No, I didn't. :D

I am simply going to buy it for 360 because I love the controller and the system. I don't care much for the motion censor controller. Hopefully my mind will change when I get the Wii but as for now I am liking the 360 controller more for the fact that I don't need to move my arms to move my character. It's not a matter of being lazy, because I'm not, it's a matter if I wanna lay down on my stomach and play a game, lol.

Right. So you don't like something you've yet to try. I see how this works.

And if you've read anything about the game, you don't move your arms around to move the character... you flick your wrist to do the special moves. You walk around with an analog stick still.

[GK Punk]

I'm downloading a Metroid Prime 3 vid right now, but I have to admit... I almost don't care. I want them to take the series back to it's roots and get away from this FPS crap.

I really dislike FPS. Excuse me, FPA.

[ThirdMarioBro]

We'll, I thought Prime 1 was perfect in that respect, but I can see you point of view. Either way, this is the last game in the "Prime Series" so you just may get your wish.

And I still think it looks like brilliance in the making.

[Barkworm]

The European price has been announced, as expected €249. I've been reading through a couple of forums and many people are pissed saying they'll wait for a price drop. I don't know what they were expecting, we always get screwed when it comes to this kind of things. A funny fact is that lots of people seem to be mad because the console comes bundled with Wii Sports. They don't want/like it and blame the bundle for the high price.

Oh, my list:


Wii (duh)
Zelda (duuuuuh)
Wii Play (comes bundled with a Wiimote)
extra nunchuck
maybe Rayman

[Mecha Cow]

I expected the price, but I want a black Wii and it's a bummer it only launches in white. And why no mention of GC Zelda? Don't tell me it's US only like those damn persistant rumors keep saying.

[Barkworm]

The question is: Who actually wants to buy it anyway?

[Mecha Cow]

I do. :(
I'll probably get both versions eventually, but I am skeptical about the Wii controls so I'd like to play it with a 'normal' setup first.

By the way, I just read that Europe is getting Wario Ware for launch.

[Barkworm]

You got wrong information there, official word was that it would be released "just after launch".

[R-iZZy]

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748547/vids_1.html

Sweet Mother....Brain. Just...wow.

Jesus, I need this game. Now. Thank you. This just hit top of my list. They fixed the controls. I'm talking in bursts now. Shocked.

METROID FUC*ING PRIME
OMFG! YES!

People don't understand why I personally think that the Metroid Prime series > Halo series. The full walkthrough video, alone, can back my opinion up.

Why can't this be a launch title?! AAAAAARGH!

[Dr. Doom]

Let's not be drawing lines in the sand here based on people's console preferences. I know it's kinda the way things work around here, but someone says they want one bloody game on 360 and you guys jump on him like starving Hyenas.

I want them to take the series back to it's roots and get away from this FPS crap.

I really dislike FPS. Excuse me, FPA.

Yes, please, ruin it for the millions of people who do enjoy it for your selfish needs.

[Mecha Cow]

What the sh*t?

Wii not region-free after all (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=19686)?!

[Dr. Doom]

Erm....k

Anyways, in the interest of fairness, I thought I'd post this other poll I found.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/TobiasFenrir/shhpoll.jpg

Now, two things. #1, this is a poll from Superhero Hype, a movie site. The people voting here aren't NECESSARILY hardcore gamers. They're mostly movie buffs, I assume, who'd probably be interested in all that Blu Ray nonsense. It's not exactly the "general public" either, but somewhere inbetween (People who play games but apparently don't read news about them, lol). #2, this poll only has like 3500 votes. GameFAQs gets that in about 5 minutes of a new poll.

Anyways, just thought I'd share another perspective.

[Peanut]

Hmm. Lots to get into here.

TMB, Smooth Moves isn't a launch title is it? I thought it was only launch window, which means from release up until march doesn't it? I don't know what they're setting as the Wii launch window.

Metroid and Super Metroid were good, Metroid Prime blows. Hard. Edit: Just watched a gameplay demo for MP on Wii and boy does it look crappy. The turn looks like it's painful to even try and play. The dude playing it was complaining too. He had to keep chasing after an enemy because he couldn't turn properly.

Clerk, while coming up with a pretty assinine reason to buy the 360 version of Marve:UA; how can you base an opinion on the "censor" (bolded for lolz) controller you've never tried, still has a point. That game looks like the Wii controls are just going to be a gimmick, not a full experience. For most 3rd party games, I expect to be getting the 360 version over Wii almost 90% of the time, unless there's some huge gameplay difference that actually sounds cool.

Mecha, Zelda is being delayed until December for the Cube in NA, so you're probably getting a similar delay. I'm starting to wonder if that even means it'll still come out. Once the Wii hits with Zelda at launch, won't most people completely hyped for TP just be going to get a Wii anyways? Sneaky sneaky.

And finally, Doom. I used to post on the SHH forums way back before it was a huge site, and when it mostly focused on Spider-Man. They're not informed about games, for the most part anyways. They're a lot of the people who buy whatever's biggest and play Madden and GTA. They probably don't know the PS3 is $600 yet, like most people I've talked to who play games, but don't follow them. Everytime I've mentioned the price it's been the same thing "WHAT!?!", so yeah.

Edit: Also, the Wii is region free. Kaplan confirmed it. http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=24981977&sid=6157671
That non-region free crap come from NOE, who are complete tards. The guy who said it was the same guy who said Metroid would be online. Tool.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, fu*k Nintendo. I've said it before, and I say it again. If I'm not allowed to buy the games that the US ever got, I stick with the Roms. They're telling me I'm only allowed to buy games that were released in the US, and that's it. Fu*k them. I'm not buying anything. How about that? Suits me fine.

[Peanut]

Man...come on. You need to stop this sh*t now. You know damn well you're going to buy everything. Just because you can't play a couple of obscure and most likely completely sh*tty Japanese games? Besides, it was NOE who said it wasn't region free and they're dumb asses! Or it could just be that the European Wii will have a region-lock.

I'm just going to come right out and say that I couldn't care less about region encoding. We get everything good and worthwhile here in Canada, so to hell with whatever anime inspired bullsh*t gets released over there. The possibility of playing Sudoku or Mahjong doesn't exactly excite me anyways.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Fu*k the anime games stright to hell right along with Mahjong and Doshin the Giant. I want Devil World, Panel de Pon, the Mario Picross game we didn't get, and Sin & Punishment.

Otherwise, yeah I'm a ******. Just ignore me when I'm steaming off. I'll buy everything. Thank God the Wii uses flash ram and SD cards, unlike Microsoft and their sh*tty hard drive.

And yeah, I believe Perrin and NOA a hell of a lot more than NOE, which are fu*knuts.

Peanut>Me

OMFG! YES!

People don't understand why I personally think that the Metroid Prime series > Halo series. The full walkthrough video, alone, can back my opinion up.Why can't this be a launch title?! AAAAAARGH!

Metroid Prime and Halo and very different, and it's kind of an unfair comparison, but if I have to compare...fu*k it. Metroid Prime is one of the three greatest games ever made to me, second being Ocarina, first being Super Mario World.

[Peanut]

That one part of the MP demo looks exactly like the Flood swarming in the first Halo.

[Kid Icarus]

Most FPS games look the same to me anyway.

Anyway, sorry about those posts from last night. I was drunk, and like most drunkards my brain starts to do things it knows it shouldn't.

[Dr. Doom]

How come words like ****, ****, & **** are blocked out, yet a word like ****** that might actually offend someone is let go?

[Jester]

How come words like ****, ****, & **** are blocked out, yet a word like ****** that might actually offend someone is let go?
*shrugs* I dunna.
Sorry...go on swearing and fuming over VIDEO GAMES!

[GK Punk]

Yes, please, ruin it for the millions of people who do enjoy it for your selfish needs.

Jesus ****ing Christ. Go die. I can't stand this **** any longer.

[Dr. Doom]

cmn, take a joke, lol

[ThirdMarioBro]

All of you stop it. It was a bloody press conference. Chill for Christ's sake.

[Dr. Doom]

PFFT, you were the one freaking out.

[Barkworm]

What's going on here???

[Peanut]

:lol: I'm wondering the same thing!

[Krang]

cmn, take a joke, lol
That looked more like trolling than a joke to me. And I usually try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but come to think of it, your last "joke" like this (directed at a different member) was probably the same thing. Next time it's a warning.

Now can we please get back on topic?

[Dr. Doom]

Well I suppose there's two sides to every story, aren't there?

http://images.thatimagesite.com/core/1530/1530_image.jpg

I like video games. Does anyone else like video games?

[Barkworm]

Everyone go download that huge MP3 video at IGN. I'm not a huge fan of Metroid Prime but this one looks more than promising.

[Hannah]

Uhhh. Krang. Isn't telling someone to "go die" more offensive than what Doom said?
I'm really confused. @__@;

[Dr. Doom]

Is there such thing as an MP3 video?

[Jed]

No, videos can be 1, 2 or 4.

[Duke]

*E²* I see Link is right-handed now. I will assume this is because of the Wii control scheme before I crucify Aonuma.I'm assuming that because of the nature of the new controller, you can set Link up as either right-handed or left-handed depending on the gamer.

[Dr. Doom]

I'd just as soon assume they'll make it all right handed, but who knows. That would be a nice feature for the lefties out there.

[R-iZZy]

Is there such thing as an MP3 video?
MP3 = Metroid Prime 3

[Dr. Doom]

Oh, silly me.

[Ecto Jedi]

Jesus ****ing Christ. Go die. I can't stand this **** any longer.

I do hope that was an extreme exagerration for the sake of humour. If not, shouldn't something be done? :o

[Brodie]

Its ok, he's in a position of power, so he can say things like that. We're only supposed to notice when he says things like "Stop spamming/trolling/flaming/etc." but not when he says something that falls under those criteria.

[Peanut]

Everyone go download that huge MP3 video at IGN. I'm not a huge fan of Metroid Prime but this one looks more than promising.

I still think it looks like turning is a pain in the ass. It's so slow and tedious looking. There's no way you can play a normal FPS with the Wii if that's all it can do.

Edit: Just watched the full video on IGN...wow does it remind me of the beginning of Halo. A cyborg on a ship under attack by alien beings. Stuff blowing up and aliens coming out of the holes. No one can deny that the similarities between MP3 and the Halo series are there.

[Jo Dawn]

Let's please stop all the tiny jabs at each other. If you must, take it to PM. Any questions or concerns about who's allowed to say what and when should be directed to a mod or Krang via PM.

Thank you.


And now, back to out regularly scheduled Video Game discussion. :)

[ThirdMarioBro]

Edit: Just watched the full video on IGN...wow does it remind me of the beginning of Halo. A cyborg on a ship under attack by alien beings. Stuff blowing up and aliens coming out of the holes. No one can deny that the similarities between MP3 and the Halo series are there.

Having played them both now, yeah, I agree. But this is the opening of Metroid, and those are always tense. After that, I assume it goes back to the classic Metroid stuff. Still, BADASS opening.

[Barkworm]

I still think it looks like turning is a pain in the ass.
Yeah, the turning seems a little awkward, I don't get why they made her arm move while turning.

[R-iZZy]

Oh, silly me.
LOL! It's definitely not you. Took me a little while the first go round.

And as for the turning, I think the guy playing was just screwing up. Seemed like he was getting his ass whooped throughout the video, anyway.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Apprently we're not allowed to save Virtual Console purchases to the SD slot. We only get to use the limited 528MB of internal flash memory, and if you run out of space, your only option is to pay a visit to the delete button. They are talking of a possible future "external HDD" solution. If they go with like a 6-gig external flash drive, I'll begrudgingly go with it. If they're going with a proprietary "magnetic" standard hard drive like the 360, then count me out. Too much money put into something easily breakable.

Fu*king money grubbing assholes. They have an SD slot, and they're still going to screw us by forcing us to buy overpriced Wii-specific memory that is too small for it's own good, rather than "dependable" SD cards that are affordable. GameCube memory cards all over again.

I don't put gobs of money into destructable mediums. This proprietary sh*t better be flash based.

[Krang]

That's pretty disappointing. Unfortunately, if they release an external hard drive anytime soon, it will most likely be magnetic. Flash technology is much more expensive per GB, so if it were a flash drive, it would probably have a small capacity to keep the cost down. Then again, they could also postpone it a couple of years and wait for the price of flash technology to go down...

As a side note, I'm not responding to any questions or whiny sarcasm posted in this thread about the argument that happened earlier. Like Jo Dawn said, if you have any questions or legitimate complaints (but please no whiny sarcasm, I've seen enough of that here), PM the forum staff. Any further mentions of that argument here will be deleted for being off-topic.

[Mecha Cow]

Well, I think you only have to pay once, and then you can download a game as many times as you want. I'm pretty sure Kaplan said this. So you wouldn't be throwing your money away or anything. Still, it sucks.

[Peanut]

Yeah, that does suck, but it also makes perfect sense. I guess they just don't want you trading SD cards with your friends. Hopefully they'll come up with something in the future. I really want to be able to carry around all those awesome games.

Edit: As for the MP3 thing, her arm moves because they way you turn is by pressing the reticle against the side of the screen. The guy playing definately wasn't messing that up, the turn just hasn't been worked out properly. It's sad, because I was hoping it would be awesome, unfortunately it doesn't look so hot.

[Barkworm]

There's still plenty of time left, I'm sure they'll get the job done. IGN's Matt Cassamasina was already very excited about the current built. And if they try and "borrow" some of Halo's presentation that's perfectly fine with me.

[Peanut]

Yeah, but Matt gets excited about anything Nintendo related. There's a demo of the exact same level on Gamevideos.com, except you can hear the guys talking. They say some good stuff, but it's a constant complaint about how bad the turning is. They probably should have had the recticle stop an inch or two away from the edge of the screen during a turn, that way you could get there quicker and not be completely out of shot range when you come upon an enemy.

I will admit that the games actually does look improved over the last two MP outings, but I still don't have much intrest in playing it. The control is key, and FPS games were turning is awful always fail miserably. I hope like hell they get it tightened up. After all, how hard is it to speed up an action?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, I think you only have to pay once, and then you can download a game as many times as you want. I'm pretty sure Kaplan said this. So you wouldn't be throwing your money away or anything. Still, it sucks.

Yeah, she did. But so did Microsoft, and I know damned good and well that promises like that only last a certain amount of years, and as I've said before, I'm not letting them hold them hundreds of dollers worth of games on the "promise" that they'll honor the sell forever, because "forever" is a linier term to companies.

Imagine one morning, the suscessor for Wii comes out, and you have to pay a fee to move all your games over, or Nintendo goes under and all your games go poof with your hard drive. Too much money, too little security.

[Barkworm]

Yeah, but Matt gets excited about anything Nintendo related.
Totally true, of course. I like Matt but he overrates anything Nintendo.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, I watched the Gametrailers video, and they guy just seems to be pisses he has to play the game at all. He sounds like he's comparing it to PC shooters (like all self proclaimed "hardcore" elietists), thus I'm going to ignore him. I consider myself a casual shooter fan, because I just play them for the community aspect and fun of shooting people. If I bumb into one of those "hardcore" **** who is raising hell beacuse "I dropped the flag", I ignore him. Who gives a damn. Everything isn't a bloody tournament match. If there are a lot of them, I drop the game and find another match.

Oh, and Metroid isn't a shooter, but you already knew that.

[Dr. Doom]

Someone wanna break down all this SD and flash talk for me? I'm a little confused.

[Ecto Jedi]

Someone wanna break down all this SD and flash talk for me? I'm a little confused.

You and me both, buddy. :o

[愛]

I'll explain it to you on AIM later, Doom, unless someone feels like explaining it on here.

[Peanut]

Well, I watched the Gametrailers video, and they guy just seems to be pisses he has to play the game at all. He sounds like he's comparing it to PC shooters (like all self proclaimed "hardcore" elietists), thus I'm going to ignore him. I consider myself a casual shooter fan, because I just play them for the community aspect and fun of shooting people. If I bumb into one of those "hardcore" **** who is raising hell beacuse "I dropped the flag", I ignore him. Who gives a damn. Everything isn't a bloody tournament match. If there are a lot of them, I drop the game and find another match.

Oh, and Metroid isn't a shooter, but you already knew that.

I'm not a hardcore shooter fan, and I still think it looks bad. When I compare it, I don't compare it to PC shooters. I compare it to what I've played, and compared to every single console FPS I've played, it looks bad. There's also no way you can say Metroid isn't a shooter. You're in first person view...and you shoot things. Just because there are platforming and exploration aspects doesn't change those two facts. MP3 looks like the FPS vs FPA arguement is going to be kicked in the pants again, with FPS doing the kicking.

Also, the video I watched was on gamevideos.com. It's a site connected with 1up.com. I don't think Gametrailers has the same one, but I don't know. All I know is the guy who was playing the game at gamevideos mentioned good stuff, but also complained about the turning a lot.

[愛]

The new controls for MP3 look awful. I simply can't get by the turning aspect. It's so ridiculously sluggish, I can't stand it. Also, the graphics? The f'n same! I really hope they at least fix the controls before launch.

Oh, and Metroid is a shooter. You point, you press a button, plasma comes out of the gun. Shooter.

[Peanut]

I think thus far I'm disappointed in the Wii control scheme all around. From the gameplay videos I've seen nothing really seems to play all that well, beyond simple stuff like Wii sports.

I mean, Nintendo gets the benefit of the doubt on this one and I'm totally stoked to get the Wii, but I'm still not sure if it'll last. In a couple years, maybe even one, will the Wii still be playable? Will we have gotten tired of it and moved on? I hope not.

My biggest fear is that we're going to get stuck with another Gamecube. Some 3rd parties will take some cracks at it for awhile, then that'll die off. Nintendo will get 3 or 4 AAA titles out within the first year or two, then we'll have to start waiting. We'll get some insanely good Nintendo game once or twice a year, then we'll be left with nothing. At this point in time I still see myself playing my 360 a lot more frequently down the line than my Wii.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Meh, whatever. Shooter, FPA, who cares. I'm buying it.

[Barkworm]

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[Duke]

I tried both Metroid Prime games and wasn't impressed with either. I don't know why I ever gave MP2 a chance after not enjoying the first, but I did and it blew just as bad. And if the new controllers are going to make the game even less playable then I'm not even going to give it a chance.

And I'm starting to lean towards Peanut's point of view about the Wii. I think the nintendo platformers will own but outside of that I'm not sure in a couple of years there will still be the third party support for the console. I think I'll be getting 3rd party games for the 360 and not the Wii unless the Wii offers insane exclusives and the controllers don't result in reduced game play.