The Nintendo Discussion Thread

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, before we all buy the casket, let's remember. The best the DS could offer us at launch was a sh*tty port of Mario 64, a mini-game party with rabbit ears, and a piss poor port of a piss poor Ridge Racer.

Wii's giving us Zelda, Wario Ware, and Metroid a couple of months late. Let's give them the benifit of the doubt. If it sucks next year, then the doomsayers can kick it off. I'm hoping this last year of not a fu*king thing to play with pay off, but your points are completely valid. Let's hope history dosen't repeat itself. I desperately want to be optimistic about this, because really, if Wii fails, we'll loose something more important than Nintendo. The failure would pretty much guarntee us that we'd never see a huge risk taken again in gaming for the sake of a freash idea.

I want this to work. I really do.

[Peanut]

So do I. I'm just not completely confident in it. I loved the DS from the start. I thought it was an awesome idea and I supported it from day one. It offered something new and it was a great take on portable gaming, but are we truly ready for this on the home console?

I'm kind of sad that we have no options for "regular" gameplay on a Nintendo platform now. We either go touch screen with DS, or Wiimote with Wii. Not that either can't offer those great regular gameplay experiences, but they're few and far between on the DS, and I'm guessing even more so on the Wii.

Nintendo deserves props for trying something new, but just because other people are doing "the same old thing" doesn't mean it's bad. I'm not tired of my 360, the way the games control, or the things it offers me, and I'm not alone in feeling this. I think there's a gross exageration on the state of gaming "stagnation".

Nintendo is constantly on their soap box talking about how the videogame business is filled with nothing but the same old same old, but I completely disagree. EA has made some drastic, amazing and innovative gameplay changes to NHL 07 this year, and they're using a standard control scheme. Innovation doesn't come from silly gimmicks and weird add-ons, which is why I'm glad Nintendo has allowed the use of the standard controller to be used for stuff like SSB:B.

The disappointing thing is if the Wii's primary control scheme turns out to be just another pointless Nintendo gimmick, (And lets face it, they've had more gimmicky failures than they've had successes) then what does the Wii have left? It'll have those awesome Nintendo first-party titles, but when those come out once or twice a year, what else is my Wii going to be good for? It's completely dated graphically when compared to the 360 and PS3, so most ports will be completely dumbed down in that sense, why choose Wii?

I don't know. Like I said before, Nintendo gets the benefit of the doubt no matter what. I just hope I'm not buying into another Gamecube that'll collect more dust than my PS2 ended up collecting in the long run.

[Duke]

Please don't misunderstand what I was saying. I really want the Wii to be a huge success, I'm just not sure the controls are going to translate to third party games the way we had hoped. I mean Metroid isn't even a third party game, and the controls just don't appear to be working from the videos I've seen. And if Nintendo is having trouble making their own games work, what kind of crap is third parties going to give us. Plus, I'm no graphics whore. I have never been and never will but I'd be an idiot to not buy the exact same game with better graphics, especially if the controls on the inferior one made it ackward.

[peanuts_girlfriend]

Im totally in love with the DS, ever since the day i played it ive enjoyed every second. I just love the thought of playing on a touch screen. I love getting to play games like Warioware and rub rabbits. My absolutely favourite is now getting released for the Wii..... Trauma Center <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3 I started playing at P.J.'s house after he told me how cool it was. Within hours i was engulfed in the world of trauma center, its so addicting and so much fun. I keep having to figure out ways to beat certain parts of the game. So im definately really excited to play the game on Wii, i cant wait to try using the little control to cut people open and save lifes. Yes im truely a huge loser.... BUT I LOVE IT :lol:

[Kid Icarus]

Holy crap! A girl! RUN!!!!

I mean, um. Hi? Glad Peanut's managed to turn you into a gamer ;).

BTW guys... big screen TV's rock my world. As soon as I can get my hands on a camera, I'll take some pictures of our gaming setup here.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Im totally in love with the DS, ever since the day i played it ive enjoyed every second. I just love the thought of playing on a touch screen. I love getting to play games like Warioware and rub rabbits. My absolutely favourite is now getting released for the Wii..... Trauma Center <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3 I started playing at P.J.'s house after he told me how cool it was. Within hours i was engulfed in the world of trauma center, its so addicting and so much fun. I keep having to figure out ways to beat certain parts of the game. So im definately really excited to play the game on Wii, i cant wait to try using the little control to cut people open and save lifes. Yes im truely a huge loser.... BUT I LOVE IT :lol:


Nah, you're not a loser. You're a gamer. We're better than everybody else. They just don't know it. :lol:

[Kid Icarus]

I say we all wait until we can actually play the sucker. So far the only person on here that can really talk about that is TMB, and even then that was with unfinished games and unfinished hardware...

As far as Prime 3 goes... Retro still has some time to get everything figured out. Guessing from the changes they've made already, they're listening to what we have to say.

Hopefuly we get some demo units in stores soon... Nintendo needs to start proving this concept to the masses ASAP.

EDIT: NSider's Nintendo Monopoly contest winners are up... here's one of the winners:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/Gwgtrunks/8_icculus.jpg

BAaaahhahaahaha

[Peanut]

I was told today by an EB clerk that the bare-bones PS3 would cost a whopping $679.99 CDN. The fact that the 360 premium started at a base price of $499.99 ended at a price of $800+ once you got it out the door...without a game...well..I really feel for the suckers who're going to drop that much cash for some sub-par launch crap.

I had to spend near a grand for my 360 and a single game. I can't begin to imagine anyone who plans on buying a PS3. Especially if they want to take advantage of the Blu-Ray player, assuming you have the HDTV with HDMI support that you require. That's another $130+ on for an HDMI cable, and one of their uber expensive games, set to retail at $89.99 CDN, and you've got WELL over $1,000 sunk into this thing. Sad.

[Barkworm]

I think there will be a quick price drop, just like the original XBox had. No sane person would spend that much.

[ThirdMarioBro]

And no sane company would make a manufacturer's b*tch with an overhead like that machine.

[Peanut]

I think there will be a quick price drop, just like the original XBox had. No sane person would spend that much.

But how could they possibly afford it? The thing has a Blu-Ray player in it. Stand alone Blu-Ray players cost upwards of $1,000! They're already taking a huge loss on this thing. Any price drop they could possibly attempt and pull off with be unsubstantial at best. A $20 price drop? It won't make a difference to anything but the Sony bank account, which continues to dwindle as they've been losing money for 3+ years.

If Microsoft comes out with a bundle and a price drop for the 360 this holiday season...between the 360 and Wii, the PS3 will be forgotten after the initial shipment. At least in North America.

[Barkworm]

I'm pretty sure I've read that the production of the cell chips will get significantly cheaper next year so there would be some room for a price drop.

[Peanut]

Next year, but what about all that time in between where they'll be losing ground to cheaper, better and more readily available consoles?

Anyways, the Playstation brand takes another hit today, as Activision announced Guitar Hero is going multi-platform. Thank GOD for that one. If I couldn't get a next-gen GH fix because I didn't own a PS3...there would be trouble. I hope they release some kind of adapter so I can hook my GH controllers up to my 360 though.

And in another problem for Sony. They're going to be selling two different copies of Gran Turismo HD for the PS3. One of the games will retail for that steep $70 that most PS3 games will go for, the other for $10-$15 more. The more expensive one will give you..get this, 2 courses and 30 cars. The regular priced one nets you...nothing. Yes, my friends. Nothing. You can't even play the game. You have to download and pay for each car and course. Straight from Famitsu, so it's not just people blowing wind our their ass. Sony is actually going to do this to people.

Also, Nintendo is in talks with Take-Two and the possibility of GTA coming to the Wii is higher than ever. Reggie specifically said that they wanted more M-rated titles on the Wii, and then he went on to mention Take-Two...so the writing is on the wall.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The moment that MGS4 is ported...no, announced to be ported to 360, we can call it a done day.

Even now, it's pretty much over. Amazing how a year can change so much.

[Dr. Doom]

The moment that MGS4 is ported...no, announced to be ported to 360, we can call it a done day.

I second this.

[Ecto Jedi]

And in another problem for Sony. They're going to be selling two different copies of Gran Turismo HD for the PS3. One of the games will retail for that steep $70 that most PS3 games will go for, the other for $10-$15 more. The more expensive one will give you..get this, 2 courses and 30 cars. The regular priced one nets you...nothing. Yes, my friends. Nothing. You can't even play the game. You have to download and pay for each car and course. Straight from Famitsu, so it's not just people blowing wind our their ass. Sony is actually going to do this to people.

To be fair, Sony hasn't confirmed any of this, and I hardly think we can trust a forum-posted translation of an interview from Famitsu. :roll:

Still, if this does indeed prove to be correct, then Sony will have officially alienated a huge chunk of its potential market. I can't speak for others, but I'm damn sure I have no interest in paying full-price for a game and then having to throw some more of my hard-earned bananas around to actually be able to play the damn thing.

But until Sony confirms or denies the rumour, I'll keep a tight lip. The whole concept sounds pretty ridiculous -- I'm still unsure as to whether or not anyone would have the balls to do such a thing. :o

[Peanut]

Besides the fact that it's been reported in numerous other places now? Yeeeah.

Look, if you don't like what we post in here, don't coming replying. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who's kinda tired of your stout defense of Sony and the sarcastic remarks that always seem to follow. We've put you in your place several times, so stay there. It's cool to have an opinion, but to express it like an ass everywhere you go isn't going to make you any friends. Knock off using that eye rolling smiley everytime you reply to something.

[愛]

.....oh dang. He said it, not me.

[Dinny]

Besides the fact that it's been reported in numerous other places now? Yeeeah.

Look, if you don't like what we post in here, don't coming replying. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who's kinda tired of your stout defense of Sony and the sarcastic remarks that always seem to follow. We've put you in your place several times, so stay there. It's cool to have an opinion, but to express it like an ass everywhere you go isn't going to make you any friends. Knock off using that eye rolling smiley everytime you reply to something.

Perhaps rather than shout him down, you should have simply posted links to these other reports backing up your claim? Not only would this have shut him up, but it would have saved you from acting like an arse...

[Peanut]

Yeah...he does this everywhere. Why would I waste my time trying to convince him of anything? We've all tried that before. Sorry to be rude, but mind your own business. ;)

[Dinny]

Yeah...he does this everywhere. Why would I waste my time trying to convince him of anything? We've all tried that before. Sorry to be rude, but mind your own business. ;)

If you didn't want everyone to see "your business", then maybe keep it to the PMs...? ;)

[Mecha Cow]

I know some of you are Prince of Persia fans, so here's some concept art for the next-gen installments (From a leaked UbiSoft press release or something-Includes lots of stuff from a ton of games. TMNT too, it looks really good). Pretty badass if you ask me.

Prince posing (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=actionprince1xd4.jpg)
Some chick (http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fille5hx6.jpg)
Prince again (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=princetest4wh7.jpg)
Logo (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=titleqy2.jpg)

[Dinny]

Has anyone else seen this Sam & Max rumour that the new game may be available through the VC and on the DS? I was only told it by a friend, but I loved the first game and if it's true, I'm sold.

Edit: http://uk.ds.ign.com/articles/733/733514p1.html

[Barkworm]

Has anyone seen those "Farcry: Vengeance" screens at IGN? I don't get why Ubisoft releases such butt-ugly, disgustingly bad screens. :dead:

[Peanut]

I know some of you are Prince of Persia fans, so here's some concept art for the next-gen installments (From a leaked UbiSoft press release or something-Includes lots of stuff from a ton of games. TMNT too, it looks really good). Pretty badass if you ask me.

Prince posing (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=actionprince1xd4.jpg)
Some chick (http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fille5hx6.jpg)
Prince again (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=princetest4wh7.jpg)
Logo (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=titleqy2.jpg)

The links won't work! I NEED THESE! FIND THEM MECHA! FIND THEEEM!

And Barky, yeah...wow. It looked better on the Xbox. More and more I wonder exactly what we're paying for with the Wii.

[ThirdMarioBro]

They're working like crazy to sue all the places that post those materials. There's a huge-ass stink going on about it. AMN almost got into deep sh*t with it this morning as well.

[Mecha Cow]

The links won't work! I NEED THESE! FIND THEM MECHA! FIND THEEEM!

Sorry buddy, it looks like UbiSoft is pissed and went on a deleting/sueing/whatever spree. All the pics are gone. Hopefully they'll resurface in a couple of days. Only thing I can find at the moment is part of it that someone used as their avatar, though that really doesn't do the pic justice:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/MechaCow/pop.jpg

Consider it a preview.

[Peanut]

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!?!?!

BTW, that pictures looks weird as hell. He looks like the Rat King or something.

[Kaneda]

Has anyone seen those "Farcry: Vengeance" screens at IGN? I don't get why Ubisoft releases such butt-ugly, disgustingly bad screens. :dead:

Yes I have and they are craptastic.......I'm starting to worry now because I just pre-ordered Red Steel and Rayman Raving Rabbids.I think I can get my money back if worst comes to worst though.Right?I never pre-ordered so I'm not sure.

[Peanut]

Wow. I don't even know what to say about that one.

[Kid Icarus]

Peanut, wang-slapping forum goers since... FOREVER.

Anyway... Red Steel sould be a pretty easy buy for anyone picking up a Wii if they fixed up the sword fighting since E3.

I haven't looked at the last couple of pages, but has anyone posted the news of Reggie talking with Take-Two to get GTA on Wii? Pretty cool stuff right there. I've never played one so I wouldn't mind shelling out for a rehashed game.

[Peanut]

Yeah, I mentioned it a page back. Along with the Gran Turismo fiasco and Guitar Hero going multiplatform.

[Kid Icarus]

Cool beans... how about Wii's Twilight Princess having a right-handed Link because they mirrored the gameworld... all so righties would have an easier time playing it? There's a lot of bitching going on by the usual internet morons who think it's going to completely ruin the entire game... Go figure.

The POP art looks cool...

[愛]

I happen to be left-handed, and I enjoyed the concept of Link being left-handed. I'm not gonna cry about the change, though.

[Barkworm]

The links won't work! I NEED THESE! FIND THEM MECHA! FIND THEEEM!

And Barky, yeah...wow. It looked better on the Xbox. More and more I wonder exactly what we're paying for with the Wii.
The pics weren't that interesting but it seems obvious that it's a different prince.
And yeah, Far Cry looks like the first Half Life or something but I think we already know that the console will be able to produce better graphics than those.

[Dr. Doom]

I happen to be left-handed, and I enjoyed the concept of Link being left-handed. I'm not gonna cry about the change, though.

cmn, diaf.

[R-iZZy]

Here's a neat little website that'll calculate how much you'll be spending on your Wii console, accessories and/or games.

For Americans (http://www.n-sider.com/newsview.php?type=story&storyid=2440)
For Canadians (http://www.n-sider.com/newsview.php?type=story&storyid=2441)

Sorry for those outside North America. :'(

[The Clerk]

hmm...

looks like I'll be spending $457.89... well worth it :)

[Dr. Doom]

Only a dollar and 8 cents more than me. Sales tax, maybe?

[Spitfire]

That is a really bad launch line up. What is up with all the movie games?

[Mecha Cow]

That is a crappy lineup. Wasn't planning on buying a Wii at launch anyway, but still.

[Peanut]

Ok...guys...can you name a single launch that was better than that? There's a f*cking Zelda in there for Christs sake, and there's more than one game that at least looks interesting. What did the PS2 launch with? Oni and Unreal Tournamnet? Give me a break. Xbox had Halo...for like 2 years...before another good game came out. Playstation had some horrible junk. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Gamecube came out with Luigi's Mansion and Wave Race? Come on guys.

I don't know why everyone expects so much from games these days. It's like all these kids jump into gaming and expect everything to be completely insane on launch day.

Let's also not forget, those are simply launch DAY titles. We're going to get more before the year ends. Does anyone really need more than one or two games at launch anyways?

I'm so sick of the videogame communtiy in this generation. It really drives me insane.

[Hannah]

I need to make about $320 in two months.

I don't think I'll be getting the Wii though, considering how I just got the DS.

u_u

[Dr. Doom]

I've felt that most of the launch titles were kinda weak for a while myself, but I'm not gonna even worry about getting one until my birthday/christmas anyways. So I'm sure more will have come out by then. Peanut's got a point though, most launches are kind of abysmal. I remember not having any real desire for a PS2 until MGS2 was out. And they first thing I wanted on GC was Smash.

[Mecha Cow]

I just said it was a crappy launch. It is. You just agreed with me. I never said I expected anything more or that the Wii suddenly sucks or whatever; please don't put words into my mouth. I really don't see what this has to with the state of the gaming community.

[Kid Icarus]

$611.81

But they got Nebraska's sales tax wrong... they have it at 5.5. We pay 7.5.

Now I've gotta start saving up...

Oh, and the Metal Slug collection is getting Metal Slug 6 put in too.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I myself can't handle more than two games at a time, so buying like 9 or 10 games at a launch is pointless and stupid for me.

[Peanut]

I just said it was a crappy launch. It is. You just agreed with me. I never said I expected anything more or that the Wii suddenly sucks or whatever; please don't put words into my mouth. I really don't see what this has to with the state of the gaming community.

I never agreeed it was a bad launch. I said most launches are completely horrific, and at least we're getting something from the Wii launch, which is better than nothing. I never said you said the Wii sucks, you're putting words into your own mouth. 8)

And this has to do with the gaming community because it's the same everywhere. We're not getting Smash Bros, Galaxy, Wario Ware and Zelda at launch, so it's bad. PS3 isn't launching with MGS4 and FFXIII, so it's worthless.

For some reason everyone is expecting stuff that's never happened before in the video game world, and I'm tired of all of these unrealistic things that people are flipping out over. Like the douche bags who think Nintendo lied about the under $250 price tag for the Wii and continue to bitch about it, despite the fact that everything else costs 2 or 3 times more than the Wii.

Anyways, GWG, what the HELL are you buying, man? I'm in Canada and I pay 14% sales tax, yet I only got up to $592.69!

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/Zelda_2x.jpg

Gold box FTW.

[Dr. Doom]

I like the GC one better

[Spitfire]

Smash Brothers was a nice launch title. One game and some ports don't make a good launch.

[Kid Icarus]

I'm getting another controller, another analog attachment, a classic controller, the system, and 3 games.

[Ecto Jedi]

Besides the fact that it's been reported in numerous other places now? Yeeeah.

Look, if you don't like what we post in here, don't coming replying. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who's kinda tired of your stout defense of Sony and the sarcastic remarks that always seem to follow. We've put you in your place several times, so stay there. It's cool to have an opinion, but to express it like an ass everywhere you go isn't going to make you any friends. Knock off using that eye rolling smiley everytime you reply to something.

Yikes...Is defending Sony a crime around these parts?

Whatever happened to "lets get on with posting as friends with differing opinions", Peanut?

[Peanut]

Yikes...Is defending Sony a crime around these parts?

Whatever happened to "lets get on with posting as friends with differing opinions", Peanut?

Dude, you still have to tie sarcastic remarks and vieled insults to every post you make in here. If you stop that we won't have a problem! Let's just drop it, because we have some much better things to discuss.


Spit, Smash Bros. wasn't a launch title. It was a launch window title. We still don't know exactly what's launch window for the Wii, so how about we wait? And no one is saying that this is an excellent launch by any means, what I'm trying to get across is that it's no worse than anything else we've ever seen.

I also like the GCN box art more. Not digging the top art on the Wii version. Looks akward and a bit half-assed. They should have put it the other away around.

[Dr. Doom]

There isn't even a vague release date for Smash yet, is there? I can't imagine there would be, we've only really seen the tip of the iceberg for that.

[Duke]

I agree with Doom and Peanut the box art looks better on the GameCube version. But of course that won't influence the fact that I'll be picking up the Wii version on launch day. Personally, I kind of wish the GameCube version was released first like it was supposed to be. I'd really like to play the GameCube version someday, but since it's being released later, I doubt I ever will.

[Peanut]

If TP on the Wii doesn't feel like some cheap gimmick, where Nintendo just decided to throw it on there and add in Wiimote controls just to sell consoles at launch, then I probably won't play the GCN version. However, if it does feel like crap, I'll be getting the GCN version. I've waited far too long for this game to not experience it in the best way possible.

Edit: LOL! http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=13886

What an ass. This is the best part.

"I think obviously our competition, the handheld devices from Nintendo and specifically in the case of the DS, we really feel like they're appealing to the same audience that Game Boy has always appealed to. And if you look at the adoption rate of the DS over the first 17 months, not only does it trail the PSP but it also trails their other platforms... They're potentially losing some of their core audience and they're not really expanding beyond that and we think we're expanding into a completely new audience as we did with PlayStation. And we'll do just what we did on PlayStation; we'll dip down to the younger consumer eventually and we'll ultimately appeal to that vastly Earth wide audience we carved out with the original PlayStation."

So the DS ISN'T expanding the market? It's the PSP. Well, Jesus! Where have we all been? I can't wait to get my hands on some of those million selling casual games titles for PSP, like Brain Age and Nintendogs!!!!!!!!....oh wait.

[Ecto Jedi]

So the DS ISN'T expanding the market? It's the PSP. Well, Jesus! Where have we all been? I can't wait to get my hands on some of those million selling casual games titles for PSP, like Brain Age and Nintendogs!!!!!!!!....oh wait.

Now that's some sarcasm. :P

[Dr. Doom]

I kinda want a PSP...... :ohwell:

[Peanut]

I kinda want a PSP...... :ohwell:

Let me guess, MGS: Portable Ops? :lol: I just wish they'd release more of the remake Mega-Man games. :-? I'll be getting EWJ though, fo sho. While the DS offers innovative gameplay and those great Nintendo classics, the PSP has the ability to offer near console experiences on a portable system, which is INSANE. The potential for that thing is out of control, but no one seems to know what to do with it. There's some impressive stuff out there, but not on the level of the DS. I want GoW ported to the PSP! MAKE IT HAPPEN!

And yeah, Ecto. That was sarcasm, but at least it wasn't directed at anyone.

[Dr. Doom]

It's not just Portable Ops, there's actually quite a long list fo games I'd be interested in pursuing.

Maverick Hunter X
Mega Man Powered Up
Power Stone Collection
MGS: PO
Gitaroo-Man
X-Men Legends II
Street Fighter Alpha 3 MAX (I'd prolly just get the collection for PS2 though)
Guilty Gear Judgment
Dynasty Warriors

[Peanut]

I can understand the rest, but X-Men Legend II and Dynasty Warriors?

And yeah, I totally forgot about Gitaroo Man. Damn, son. Which also reminds me that a Parapa The Rappa remake is coming out for the PSP. Awesome.

[Dr. Doom]

Yeah, Gitaroo-Man isn't really easy to get ahold of for PS2 anymore, I don't think. And it's the kinda game that you just wanna spontaniously play for a short period of time, I think it benefits form a system you can just walk around with. As far as X-Men Legends goes, I never really played any of the others and I guess it just filled up the list as something I'd be interested in playing. I dunno if it's something I really wanna purchase. Dynasty Warriors is something I'm a big fan of though, and if it's an original game, then I'd definately be all over it.

[Kid Icarus]

Damn, Peanut beat me to news posting again. Bastard. :-p.

Anyway... Sony really *should* try to lay off the crack soon. They've got a system that's flopping around, practically dead, and one launching pretty soon that's not looking any better off. Best to have as many brain cells working as they can have, you know?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Doom, don't buy SFAlpha3 on PSP. I own it, and I desperately try to play the damn thing, but it's broken. It looks right, sounds right, and moves right, but the PSP D-Pad is just too damn stiff. It's the fault of the system, not the game. The game is responsive as ever, but the D-Pad will break you arm trying to pull off an 8-hit combo. Hell, fireballs are only working 70%, and that's unacceptable. Darkstalkers is the same way. You just can't play them at all on that machine.

Pisses me off, because that is probobly the only "legal" portable version we're going to get, and it's broken. Solution? Get a GPX2 and emulate the stupid thing.

Although.....buy Ultimate Ghosts and Goblins. The game is a BITCH, but it's supposed to be.

[Dr. Doom]

Sounds like the horrid Dreamcast D-pad. :ohwell:

[Ecto Jedi]

Doom, don't buy SFAlpha3 on PSP. I own it, and I desperately try to play the damn thing, but it's broken. It looks right, sounds right, and moves right, but the PSP D-Pad is just too damn stiff. It's the fault of the system, not the game. The game is responsive as ever, but the D-Pad will break you arm trying to pull off an 8-hit combo. Hell, fireballs are only working 70%, and that's unacceptable. Darkstalkers is the same way. You just can't play them at all on that machine.

Pisses me off, because that is probobly the only "legal" portable version we're going to get, and it's broken. Solution? Get a GPX2 and emulate the stupid thing.

Although.....buy Ultimate Ghosts and Goblins. The game is a BITCH, but it's supposed to be.

I use the PSP's analog nub and I find the controls perfectly fine. Then again, I tend to use either Guile or Charlie, whose moves don't require any half-circle motions... :)

And ditto with Ultimate Ghosts 'n Goblins. What an awesome game.

[Kid Icarus]

Analog in fighting games isn't a good thing...

[Dr. Doom]

No, I need a good D-Pad for any fighter where you need to do quarter circles, half circles, charges, whatever. I can't play any fighter with a joystick effectively, especially not an arcade stick. The only exception would be Soul Calibur. I never had problems using a analog stcik for that (with the exception of the few QC's that the game has), but even with that I'm paralyzed on an arcade stick.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I'm a Ryu whore, so bad D-Pad = no go for me.

[Peanut]

Has anyone seen the trailer for the INSANE Wii game by Suda 51 called Heroes? Just incase you don't know, byt the insane dudes who made Killer 7. It looks ridiculous!

[愛]

I haven't seen it yet, but I hope to see it tomorrow when I'm sober.

Do your chain hang low?

[Cure]

Has anyone seen the trailer for the INSANE Wii game by Suda 51 called Heroes? Just incase you don't know, byt the insane dudes who made Killer 7. It looks ridiculous!

Yeah it looks great, but as everyone else on other sites say, the voice acting needs work.

EDIT: This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UXdh1qKHmI) is the link for the original trailer that got leaked months ago. It has better music than the one from TGS in my opinion.

[Kid Icarus]

AMN's feed was taking too long to buffer, so I'll catch it in a couple of days when the buzz dies down.

I really dug the first trailer though... I might have to go find Killer7 on the cheap tommrow... Toys R Us had it for like, $8 new.

[Peanut]

Just get it at IGN or Gamespot, man.

Anyways, I don't think there's anything wrong with the voice acting. It's perfectly corny and over-the-top. That's the kind of voice-acting a game likes this needs. It's not like the dialouge is going to win any awards anyways.

And Ai, people who talk about being drunk when they're drunk are tools, because no one cares. GO BACK TO XBL, n00b!

[The Clerk]

I might have to go find Killer7 on the cheap tommrow... Toys R Us had it for like, $8 new.


ha, yeah, Toys R Us has some pretty cheap stuff for games. I bought a wireless GC controller for 7 bucks new. It works perfectly. AND I did see Killer 7 for GC there on sale.... also Kaiten Baitos (sp) for 13 bucks and Advent Rising for 13 bucks as well.

[Dr. Doom]

And Ai, people who talk about being drunk when they're drunk are tools, because no one cares. GO BACK TO XBL, n00b!


Ooooooh, HE GOTCHU!

[Kid Icarus]

Haha, is it sad that Ai being drunk last night inspired me to get drunk? You're a hero, Ai!

That and I still have about half a bottle of UV Blue that needs to dissapear before the roommates get home... I'm not supposed to have booze in the house.

Anyway, IGN was taking way too long too.

[愛]

You're welcome.

I just saw the trailer, and it is almost the same as the one we saw a while back. I just wanna know how the game is gonna play. All we have seen is concept. I WANT GAMEPLAY!

And on that note, it's back to XBL I go. :(

[R-iZZy]

It's not just Portable Ops, there's actually quite a long list fo games I'd be interested in pursuing.

Maverick Hunter X
Mega Man Powered Up
Power Stone Collection
MGS: PO
Gitaroo-Man
X-Men Legends II
Street Fighter Alpha 3 MAX (I'd prolly just get the collection for PS2 though)
Guilty Gear Judgment
Dynasty Warriors
Nice list, but why not just get X-Men Legends II on a console that you already own? As for the SFA3... you should just get the Street Fighter Alpha Anthology (so F'ing glad I got it)! I couldn't play those games on a portable, I definitely need a console to play those games. But then again, I always thought the same about playing a MGS game, and I'm actually tempted to buy (and quickly return) a PSP right after playing the Metal Gear Acid games.

As far as X-Men Legends, the series, goes....... no one talk bad about that game, unless you want me to go into berserker mode! That's one of my favorite series out, and I've gotten a good selection of others hooked! I've already formed a squad for online play when Marvel: Ultimate Alliance drops!

[Duke]

I'm tempted to finally go pick up a PSP and I'm not sure exactly why. It's just that I saved a grand for the WII launch and I'm only going to need 1/2 that at most. And there is definitely a few games I'd like to get for PSP. At best my resolve not to get one is definitely finally beginning to crumble.

[Peanut]

I really wanted a PSP for no concrete reason too. That was last December. I played it for the first month I had it. Stopped. Got MMMX, played that for about two weeks, then I didn't touch it again until about 2 months ago when I decided to boot up MMMX again. I kinda wish I had that money the PSP cost me. It would go straight into Wii stuff and 360 games. :(

[Kid Icarus]

I'd look and see if the games you want on PSP arn't on consoles... or at least games that are exactaly the same.

THen if you just want it for the media stuff... well, check out one of these (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?family=iPod) puppies. I've been nothing but trilled with mine. Oh, and hey, the battery life is about 3 times as much as the PSP. Go figure.

[Dr. Doom]

I never meant to imply I wanted to purchase all thsoe titles... It was just kind of an arbitray list of games I'd play that I accidentaly excluded Loco Roco from. I dodn't have any intention of buying a PSP any time soon, either. Maybe in the future.

[Kid Icarus]

My comment was more towards Duke then you, but whatever :D

Some semi-news... North America's getting a million Wii's for launch. Shouldn't be too hard just going in and picking one up. This is also the largest console launch for Nintendo.

And Mario vs Donkey Kong 2 is out today. Wish I had cash to get it. Pauline's back in this game too.

[Toonami Tom]

This sounds good, it would be awesome if I could just walk in a store on launch date (or a few days after) and just buy a Wii. I hate it when new video game consoles are hard to find, which seems to be the case usually. In fact, I can't think of a time when a console, or hand held, was easy to find at launch. Unless you pre-ordered or stood in line. I'm glad to hear Nintendo is going to try and make them more available.

[Kid Icarus]

Well, I wouldn't expect it to be *that* easy to find... remember that North America has that crazy Canada country in it too.

Still, in comparison, if you get to a store sometime on launch day, you stand a good shot of finding a Wii.

All of the other launches I've been through (N64, GCN, DS, and to a lesser extent GBA.. .but I got that a few days early. Love stores that break release...) It's been damn near impossible to find a machine later on durring launch day.

[愛]

Canada is a bunch of assholes....oh, hi, Peanut.

[Peanut]

It's never really as bad as it is in the States for console releases up here. Sometimes you can go to some remote place, further north, and find one of something somewhere.

Through all the launches of witnessed, the hardest to find was 64, which was impossible to get for months and months, along with any games. At all. It only launched with two as it was, you could find the random Pilotwings sitting in the big empty Nintendo display case, but you'd never find SM64. I even remember going into a store, excited to play the kiosk set-up, only to discover it was gone, as a store employee had stolen it the night before. My parents told me on Christmas morning that they had taken a trip all the way up to Sudbury in order to find Super Mario 64. They "sweet talked" a Zellers clerk, with a $50, they wouldn't lie to me, into giving them a 64 that was on lay-away, but noticed it came with no game. So the night before Christmas Eve they went off, starting at the stores outside my town, and they struck every store they could. Finally they hit up a K-Mart (now defunct in Canada. Maybe the US too?) in Sudbury, 5 hours form my house, just 20 minutes before closing and found a copy of SM64. My parents would go to any means necessary to get me my videogames.

GBA was a quiet launch here. There really wasn't any buzz surrounding it at all, and you could go out and grab one whenever you felt like it. The same thing for Xbox and Gamecube. PS2 was a nightmare. I didn't want one at launch, but when I heard about NHL 2002 hitting for it in the fall, I had to have one. So I worked all summer to build up my cash flow and treked everywhere to find one. Over two months I searched. Nothing. Late in August, at my cottage, I decided to go find JameO, who also has a place up there. When I came back to my place a couple hours later, I found my dad and mom frantically trying to set up a new PS2, but they were utterly confused by the composite cables, having been using an RF switch for everything previous. My dad had managed to snag one off of a "friend with connections". To this day I still think my PS2 cost someone their life.

DS was the other brutal launch up here. It was almost like no one cared it was launching, but then for some reason they were all gone! Like bandits had made off with them into the dead of night. After I recieved mine on Christmas morning, I took a long look at the packaging and noticed some words imprinted in the box, almost as if someone had written a little note on top of it with a post-it. It said "hold for Kim". I gues Kim never got her DS. :lol: I asked my mom how she got it, and she said it had been my sister. Apparently she asked a nerdy ass Zellers clerk if there were any DS's, and wanting to impress her, he pulled one out and ripped the note off. Poor guy. Used and abused, but at least I got my DS.

I expect the Wii launch to be fairly large, but not to the point where one will be impossible to find. I expect that first shipment to be gone on day one, but Nintendo said they were going to be releasing new shipments on a regular basis, so I expect after a couple days of down time, with nothing on shelves, they'll get out another big shipment and anyone who wants one will have it.

[Dr. Doom]

I'm still somewhat lost on the controller situation. At some point I think it was suggested that the Classic Controller and GC Controller were interchangeable. If that's true, is it to imply one could use the GC controller for VC games and the Classic controller for GC games? I think you get what I mean... I remember hearing something like this but it was never really defined in any way. This is further complicated by the fact that I recall reading that people shouldn't get rid of their GC controllers in regards to SSBB, but to have a game played on a controller that at some point will no longer be in production seems kinda strange. Anyways, this situation confuses me and could use to explainin', if anyone can provide any.

[Toonami Tom]

I looked at their launch titles at www.ign.com and I wasn't very impressed. What do you guys think looks good for the Wii in 2006?

[Peanut]

I think people needlessly complicate it. It's not exactly rocket science. The Wii has GC controller ports, so it can use GC controllers, but you can also get a VC controller for the Wii. I don't know if this will use a different port than a GC controller would, but it makes sense that it wouldn't.

SSB:B will use a normal controller. This means either the VC or GC controller will work for it. Think of the VC controller as a remade GC controller. You can use either or, but the VC controller was made in a classic design for whatever reason. Probably just to make more money on us nostalgic losers. If the VC controller can be used on a Cube is still up in the air.

So in sumation:

Wii "Classic" Controller = Gamecube Controller
Gamecube Controller = Wii "Classic" Controller

At least that's how I understand it. The VC controller is just a second option for those who don't want to use a Cube controller.

Edit: I looked at their launch titles at www.ign.com and I wasn't very impressed. What do you guys think looks good for the Wii in 2006?

We talked about this like 3 pages back. Go read that. Also, beyond the launch titles, we don't know what else there's going to be in 2006. Another one jumping to conclusions before all the information is out there.

[Mecha Cow]

I'm not sure if the VC controller is the same as the GC controller. Aren't you supposed to attach the Wii remote to the back of it or something? That would suggest it still has some pointer functions. Then again, the VC controller doesn't come with the system, so if this combination does provide any extra features, I don't see many games using them.

[Kid Icarus]

The Classic controller gets plugged into the expansion slot on the remote, and then the remote with the cord just gets to sit somewhere... so you've got some weird ass wired/wireless hybrid action going on.

I don't think it's been confirmed one way or the other if we can use Gamecube controllers with Wii games, other then Sakurai mentioning it. But that was a while ago, and things might have changed. We all know how much joy Nintendo gets from zapping us with accessory costs.

[Peanut]

I don't think it's been confirmed one way or the other if we can use Gamecube controllers with Wii games, other then Sakurai mentioning it. But that was a while ago, and things might have changed. We all know how much joy Nintendo gets from zapping us with accessory costs.

I don't see why the possibility isn't there. The Wii is a Cube. Plain and simple. Obviously the option to use a Gamecube controller won't be available for the majority of games, what's the point? But SSB:B is going to use normal controls, so my guess is either GC or VC controllers will work.

I really don't see why there's even a discussion about it. The VC controller is basically a re-mapped GC controller. I thought that was pretty much confirmed? There's been some talk about hooking the Wiimote up to it to give it wireless functionality, but who knows what's that about. It essentially works the same way. I'm almost certain you won't have to hook the Wiimote up to it anyways. Just as an option.

[Duke]

THen if you just want it for the media stuff... well, check out one of these (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?family=iPod) puppies. I've been nothing but trilled with mine. Oh, and hey, the battery life is about 3 times as much as the PSP. Go figure.I don't want it for Media Stuff and you are definitely right the iPod is vastly superior in that aspect. I'm actually considering picking it up for a very select list of games.

[Peanut]

Which games? I haven't been keeping up with the PSP lately, so I want to know if there's anything on the way that I'm not picking up on.

[Barkworm]

If they ever make a 2D Castlevania for PSP I might think about it (Igarashi has recently hinted something along these lines).

[Kid Icarus]

I'm almost certain you won't have to hook the Wiimote up to it anyways. Just as an option.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/Gwgtrunks/56.jpg

[Mecha Cow]

Holy sh*t, it's the Asian Tom Cruise!

[Peanut]

Completely lame. Nintendo fails at something else. It's sad that Microsoft seems to be the only one doing anything right.

Anyways, I said if you did hook it up it would only be for wireless purposes, so that proves my point. It's not adding any type of functions to it.

[Kid Icarus]

I don't think it's going to be that big of a deal. Unless you're trying to swing the classic controller around, i don't see a problem with setting the remote by your side.

I'd be nice if they'd knock $10 off the cost of the classic controller, since they don't have to put any wireless crap in it.

[Peanut]

I just think that's lazy. They're already ripping us off on the price of a bunch of stuff. This is just more to add-on. Think about it. I want to play Super Mario World on my Wii VC with my friend. I can't just go buy two VC controllers, because they won't even work alone. I'd have to go buy a seperate Wiimote too. That's some bullsh*t right there. As if they weren't already trying to jack us on the price of the controllers and games in the first place. If the classic controller is going to be this crippled, why not stick one in the box?

[Kid Icarus]

They never said the classic controller was going to be seperate anyway. Remember that at first it was going to be a shell that you'd plug the remote into?

Anyway, like you're thinking, you can pry just use Gamecube controller with VC games.... not that those work great with D-Pad heavy games though.

[Peanut]

Yeah, but that was all just rumors and speculation.

Anyways, I'm not personally worried about having to use two VC's with two Wiimotes, because I'll probably have that anyways, plus I have GC controllers as a back-up. Although, like you said, that D-pad is horrific.

What I'm worried about is that Nintendo is supposed to be making this console available to everyone. Don't you think making people jump through all these hoops to play games is a little much? What about those older people who buy one, but never had a Cube? They'll need to buy two Wiimotes, wether they want a second one or not. I just think the mess that Nintendo has made with the controllers is awful.

Edit: Ugh. http://wii.ign.com/articles/735/735577p1.html

I really can't stand the Wii case design. And where's the "Only For" on it? THAT'S A STAPLE!

[Spitfire]

I see 2 exclusive games and 5 kids games and that Marvel game that looks pretty lame that I believe are on other systems as well -_- This is why people make fun of Nintendo. Not even us fans will play that crap. Give us some Mario or something here. Not impressing me.

[Peanut]

Oh, shut up. We've been through this already. And don't call anything kiddy or lame when you're using those stupid chibi faces.

[Spitfire]

Oh, shut up. We've been through this already. And don't call anything kiddy or lame when you're using those stupid chibi faces.
Boy do you hate opinions, is that all you do? Complain about what other people think? All you seem to do is get all pissy when someone says they don't like something you like and tell people the things they like suck.

People are different for a reason. If everyone here was like you this forum would be in trouble.

[Peanut]

Boy do you hate opinions, is that all you do? Complain about what other people think? All you seem to do is get all pissy when someone says they don't like something you like and tell people the things they like suck.

People are different for a reason. If everyone here was like you this forum would be in trouble.

No. I don't like any of that sh*t. Is that what you're implying? I'm in the same boat as you. I think it's all crap and I think it looks stupid, but we already went through this. I'm not ragging on you because you don't like it. Far from it.

[Barkworm]

God, kids, go out and play...

[Spitfire]

No. I don't like any of that sh*t. Is that what you're implying? I'm in the same boat as you. I think it's all crap and I think it looks stupid, but we already went through this. I'm not ragging on you because you don't like it. Far from it.
Alright then I'm sorry. I misunderstood ya.

[Peanut]

It's alright. My apparent online tone is always angry and pissy, so I don't blame you. :lol:

[Spitfire]

It's alright. My apparent online tone is always angry and pissy, so I don't blame you. :lol:
Haha it's all good.

But for the sake of being back on topic what all do we have for the Wii launch

So far I have seen these games on Gamestop, but they could be wrong*They had DMC 4 announced as comming out in March <_<* Anywho this is what they have marked down as comming out in November

Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Smash Bros: Brawl
Red Steel
Trauma Center: Second Opinion
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Call of Duty 3
Rayman: Raving Rabbids
ExciteTruck
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles -- The Chrystal Bearers
Madden NFL 07
Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam
Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen & the Tower of Mirrors
Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz
Avatar: The Last Airbender
Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII
Metal Slug Anthology
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2
Far Cry
Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy
NBA Live 07
Open Season
Shrek Smash 'N Crash
Cars
GT Pro Series
Happy Feet
Monster Truck
Rampage: Total Destruction
Rapala Trophies
Splinter Cell: Double Agent
SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature From the Krusty Krab
The Ant Bully

Now I see some lame titles in there, but after looking at all they got there's alota kick ass titles in there as well. Plus the prices are nice too. Some games are only 30 bucks to start with. Pretty genius really. I see stuff in there for people of all ages. Littles kids and adults alike are covered. I don't feel so bad about the Wii launch anymore.

[Dr. Doom]

I WISH Smash Bros. was coming out in November. I don't really see any evidence of that at this point, though.

[Peanut]

No way in hell. They haven't even been developing the game for a year yet.

[Spitfire]

Yeah I figured half that crap probly wasn't comming out. Gamestop you offcially suck more now then you did before...you say subject to change but when was it EVER announced being released that early then if it hasn't even been in production that long?

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=T000233

[Peanut]

Yeah, ships before the console. :lol:

Now everyone to the X06 thread. Microsoft owns.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Oh yes, after comming home and reading the news, Microsoft fu*king pwns something hardcore right up the rectal shaft. I love them after X06. Now, read this halarious quote...

"We don't want PlayStation 3 to be the overwhelming loser, so we want to support them...But we don't want them to be the overwhelming winner either, so we can't support them too much."

Yeah, I think Square just chopped out the last leg out from under the coffee table with that quote.

[Peanut]

I just about died when I read that quote earlier. They straight up hit the nail on the head too. "Without us, Sony has nothing."

[Kid Icarus]

Is it back to 1994 again? Jesus Christ. That's damn close to what Square was saying about Nintendo.

[Kid Icarus]

http://www.planetgamecube.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=12173

Some more Wii Channel stuff, this time they're talking message boards and that kind of goodness.

[Peanut]

Is anyone else kinda worried about how hard they've been pushing the Wii channel crap instead of the games?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Not really. I love the channels myself. I think it's a grand idea. BTW, the official Nintendo magazine in Europe appears to have confirmed that the Wii will let us save whatever to SD cards. I'm looking for scans, but can we hear a collective *PHEW* for this happy news.

[Peanut]

I'm not saying I don't like the channels, but there's an awful lot of focus on them. It's almost as if this console really isn't for us. I think it's obvious Nintendo is trying to cater to the casual more than the hardcore, and that's just kind of unsettling to me.

[Kid Icarus]

Yes, totally. That's EXACTALY why they've pissed off their fans by delaying Zelda just to add Wii controlls. That's TOTALLY why they're in talks with Take Two to get some GTA lovin on Wii. We'll also just ignore the new IP's they showed off at E3.

Infact I'd say they've done MORE for the 'hardcore' gamers so far with Wii at this point then they did for us with Gamecube. Also, who says you can't play the casual games? Brain Age is pretty fun, and Nintendogs lasted about a month before I shelved it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I like Brain Age, but Nintendogs bored me. Still, you're both right to an extent. All I know is I'm more than pleased. Nintendo is giving me all the sh*t I want thus far, so I have nothing to complain about. Zelda is finally commig to kick Okami's ass, launch lineup looks good (compared to past lineups), the machine worked out, the SD storage worked out, Mario Galaxy is going to kick Mario 64 in the balls, Prime 3 looks to make me a happy Metroid fanboy, and there is an absoulte assload of other games comming over the next year.

This is just the month before launch jitters. It'll be fine.

[Kid Icarus]

I think we can all admit it's going to be better then the PS3...

AMIRITE?!?

[Peanut]

Yes, totally. That's EXACTALY why they've pissed off their fans by delaying Zelda just to add Wii controlls. That's TOTALLY why they're in talks with Take Two to get some GTA lovin on Wii. We'll also just ignore the new IP's they showed off at E3.

The delayed Zelda to add Wii controls because no one would have bought the damn thing if the big launch game had been Red Steel. Come on, man. You know that's true. They just tried to shoe-horn the Wii controls into Zelda so they'd have something for launch.

And they're in talks with Take Two because GTA sells consoles to the casual market. And what new IP's are we talking about here? Excite Truck or something? They're also packing in casual crap like Wii Sports. It's for us right? Give me a break. If you can't see where Nintendo is going with this console you need to take off the rose tinted glasses.

And as for me playing the casual games...no. While some of them can be entertaining for a little while, most of them get tiring after about 10 to 20 minutes. Nintendogs and Brain Age both included in that.

[Dr. Doom]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6159054.html?tag=latestnews;title;0

Kutaragi on 360, Wii: "We don't care"
Despite admitting PS3 production problems, Sony Computer Entertainment president says he's not concerned about the next-gen competition.

Last week Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi delivered the keynote address at the 2006 Tokyo Game Show. As usual, he appeared confident, laying out his long-term vision for how the PlayStation 3 will take over many functions traditionally performed by the PC.

As for the PlayStation 3 launch, Kutaragi let Sony Computer Entertainment America president Kaz Hirai lay down the nuts in bolts in a video interview with GameSpot. However, the so-called "Father of the PlayStation," whose English is limited, did speak very briefly with British trade magazine MCV about the looming next-gen conflict.

When asked his opinion of the PS3's competitors, Microsoft's Xbox 360 and Nintendo's Wii, Kutaragi was blunt. "We don't care," he flatly told the trade.

But while he was confident about the PS3's chances, the executive also admitted that the console's launch was not exactly going according to plan. "Right now ... we can't manufacture enough blue laser diodes for our PlayStation 3s," he said, "But we will resolve that."

Blu-ray diode production problems pushed back the PS3's European launch to March 2007. The console is still set to go on sale in Japan November 11 and in North America November 17. However, its day-one inventory has been drastically cut from 2 million units to just 100,000 units in Japan and 400,000 units in the US and Canada.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, I said it before, but I'm more than happy with what we're getting from Nintendo, and I'm more than happy with what the 360 is giving. I've been bitching non-stop for a long time, but with the recent announcements, everything I was bitching about has resolved itself. This is the first launch where I have no reason to be worried at all. There's some big games at launch, Red Steel is working out *look below*, Wario Ware hits in December (Developed by Intelligent Systems unlike the DS game Yay for Intelligent Isystems :D :D), the VC worked out, the Mii's can have our face mapped onto them from digital pictures, and there are going to be pleanty of machines at launch.

What's there to complain about? Now, Red Steel screens from the official European Nintendo mag. Blood splattered Giesha girls with big swords for the win. Also, real sword control is now implemented.

Scans...

http://upl.zorpia.com/org/0/2360/15105004.9565fd.jpg
http://upl.zorpia.com/org/0/2360/15105005.5fea3d.jpg
http://lrg.zorpia.com/0/2360/15105006.ca183b.jpg
http://lrg.zorpia.com/0/2360/15105007.02e73c.jpg
http://upl.zorpia.com/org/0/2360/15105008.32f9d9.jpg
http://lrg.zorpia.com/0/2360/15105010.0c0a78.jpg
http://upl.zorpia.com/org/0/2360/15105011.30ef83.jpg

[Mecha Cow]

Is it legal to post English magazine scans? Not complaining, but I wouldn't want you to get in trouble.

And the nunchuck thing has a motion sensor too? That's news to me, and pretty badass.

[愛]

Jesus, die in a high-res fire. Link the pictures, don't directly link them, please. My Firefox is gonna die in a Firefox fire.

[Peanut]

So has there been confirmed blood in Red Steel? Not that I'm one of those, "WHOMG! BLOD N G0RZERZ FTW IN MY AZ2!!!" but a game called Red Steel, about shooting people in the face and then stabbing them in the eye...without blood...just doesn't seem right.

[Barkworm]

I think it was confirmed that there will be NO blood in it. Which is odd because the official packshot has a bloody blade on it.

[Peanut]

I know there was no blood in it at E3, but I thought at the Wii conference and in several places I read about blood being put in. I think it may have been on a 1up podcast too. Something about Ubisoft listening to feedback about the game and that was one of the big ones.

[Mecha Cow]

I think they said that there would be blood, but it would be 'subtle'.

[Duke]

The delayed Zelda to add Wii controls because no one would have bought the damn thing if the big launch game had been Red Steel. Come on, man. You know that's true. They just tried to shoe-horn the Wii controls into Zelda so they'd have something for launch.Exactly! Delaying the launch of Zelda wasn't meant to please hardcore gamers and we all know that. It was about selling consoles. And if I remember correctly wasn't everyone here pissed about the delay. How easy we forget.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Blood was confirmed in Red Steel last month. Here's a very interesting Reggie interview I enjoyed. No info, but a fun read anyway.

Talk About a Reggie-lution
We sit down with Nintendo America’s biggest big wig Reggie Fils-Aime to discuss the Wii, nunchuks and his secret fantasy career.
BY SCOTT JONES & LIBE GOAD

He's big. Bigger than you think. He shakes your hand, and you think, "Can I please have my hand back now, giant?" Reggie Fils-Aime, Nintendo of America's COO and self-proclaimed Mr. Wii, sinks into a sofa in a midtown Manhattan hotel the day after hosting a rainy, early morning press event announcing the $249 Wii MSRP and the new Wii Channels. Pinging him with questions is probably about as smart as throwing rocks at a hibernating bear, but despite our better judgment, we launch the first volley.


Things go OK at the NYC press event?

For a one-hour event, you wouldn't believe the amount of energy and activity that goes into it. Most people don’t really understand or really don’t care. It takes a lot of effort to make sure it goes off with out a hitch.

Thus ensuring there would be no repeat of the technical failure at the E3 press conference? (When the ‘Red Steel’ demo blinked out.)
A
h, that little glitch … The interesting thing is the play value was there, but the pickup on the screen didn’t happen for about five seconds. For me, it felt like an eternity.

During early concept meetings for the Wii, what sort of conversations were you guys having?

Right from the beginning our objective was to bring gaming back to the masses. Remember those days during the NES and the Super Nintendo? When there would be a family sitting around playing games, because the controllers were simple [to use] and the games were fun?

Not really. I remember my dad drinking a lot and beating us with extension cords.

Well, I remember those days. I was a parent to kids with an age range from four to eight years old, and I remember sitting around playing SNES with my kids.

I'll tell you a story -- I was playing ‘Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past.’ I would stay up to the wee hours of the morning playing that game. And in the daytime, my son, who was probably about seven years old at the time, would play the levels I had beaten.

So I get to the final boss. I'm going to beat Ganon for the final level of the game. It's probably 4 o'clock in the morning, I said [to myself], 'You know what? I'm going to stop here so I can be fresh and beat this level in the morning. You can probably tell what happens, right? So my son gets on the system the next day, sees that I've gotten to the final boss, and he beats the boss. He finishes the game before I do. He stole my thunder.

You guys are desperately trying to reach out to non-gamers. Tell me a little bit about that notion.

I believe there's an opportunity to have multi-generational gaming happening with our system. I'm not going to kid myself; that's not all that's going to happen with Wii, because we still have 'Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess,' and that's pretty hardcore. But we do believe that bringing gaming back to the masses is the right approach.

At the Wii event in NYC people were picking Wii Remote and didn't really know what to do with it. It's not self-evident; you don't just pick it up and suddenly know how to use it.

Once you get it in your hands, it starts coming pretty naturally, I think. In fairness, that's why we didn't have more [PR] folks there with each game trying to walk people through it. Part of our own learning is observing, watching how people adjust. How do they learn to use the control scheme? And how do we take some of that learning and … share it with consumers when they buy it.

So some kind of tutorial is inevitable?

We're looking at tutorials, to help people understand how the different configurations work. …Is [the Wii controller] different? Sure. Using the remote like a tennis racket, of course it's different, but it's also intuitive. And how about the subtleties? You flip your wrist [makes flipping motion in air] and all of a sudden you're putting top spin on the ball. You figure these things out as you play. …There's a learning curve that's going to come, especially if you're used to playing with a dual analog controller.

There's so much handholding that goes on in games lately. But with the DS, and now apparently the Wii, learning is part of the experience. From a design standpoint, I think you guys have gone in the opposite direction from everyone else.

We really have. We think, 'let the consumer experience this, let them go through the enjoyment of learning what's the best configuration for them. Let them figure this out on their own.'

[ThirdMarioBro]

Atari flooded the market in the '80s with so much garbage that the industry collapsed under its own weight. With the amount of crap in game stores, is there a danger of history repeating itself?

I'll twist that around a little bit. Do I think the industry is suffering from a lack of originality? A lot of the same old content? Sequelitis? Absolutely. Absolutely. As a consumer, is it challenge to parse through all the different choices available to find those great games out there? Absolutely.

I have to say one of the things that Nintendo works hard to do is to work with our licensees, as well as internally, to make sure that what we publish for our systems really is as good content-wise as we can possibly get. Now, I'm not going to say that everything is a gem. Because that's not true. But do we work hard, especially with our licensees to give them counsel, to try to make the games as good as they can be? Absolutely.

Yes, there's a lot of dreck out there. But I think a measure of our success is if you go to an EB or Gamestop and look at previous used product for sale, the fact is, you won't see a lot of Nintendo published product. Why? Because we make product that people tend to want to hold onto. The replay value is there. There's emotional attachment to the software. But is there a lot of dreck, especially on the competitive platforms? Absolutely.

Sometimes I go to game store the day after something ships and gamers have already returned it. What does that say? People have tried it once, and thought, 'Boy, I'd rather monetize this than hold onto it.'

Back to the Wii remote -- who in their right mind will really want to wave their arms around for five hours at a time?

Let's take 'Wii Tennis.' If you want, you can play 'Wii Tennis' with those big old strokes, like we did up on stage at E3 this year. Or, you can sit down and play it with these short little movements, with your hands resting on your knees, like I'm doing here [mimics holding invisible controller on knees in front of him]. And it works just fine. Same with 'Metroid Prime 3.' I find that really natural. Or with the 'Zelda' game, with the swinging sword? It's all just a little motion. It doesn't have to be these big, extreme swings.

And I do think that what consumers are going to find is that there will be some games where they're really going to want to exaggerate, and there are going to be some games where things are going to be more subtle. It may, in fact, be the same game, but it might depend on where you are from a level standpoint in the game.

You know, we're partially to blame [for the misconception] because whenever we've demoed these games we have been so over-the-top in showing the motions.

At the press conference, you said the WiiConnect 24 would use the Opera Web browser, which gamers can get by spending their precious Wii points. Tell me, why should we spend money on a free Web browser?

In fairness, for the Americas, we haven't made the business decision for how and what we're going to do with the browser. We recognize for most people a browser is pretty standard. The concept of charging a significant amount of Wii points to get the browser is somewhat challenging. We're going to work through that.

We look forward to the update. Earlier this year, Satoru Iwata at E3 said that Nintendo's developers are working to keep load times short. Two words: Thank you.

It's all based on thinking about this business through eyes of consumer. Think about it: you're all excited, you go buy a game, you put it in the machine and it's loading … and loading … and …loading. It takes the air out of the balloon.

From our perspective, it's wasted time, and so there's a mentality that says we want our load times to be fast [snaps fingers to demonstrate how fast], and we want our system to have a sense of memory if you will, as to what games you've loaded, and how quickly they can load back up … This is entertainment, this is fun. It shouldn't be about waiting.

I have those bongo controllers. I used them all the time for a while, but now they just sit in the corner alongside my Virtua Boy and Power Glove. Tell me: How is the Wii not going to turn into those bongo controllers?

I think the bongo controllers are actually a great example. The first ‘Donkey Konga?’ Great. ‘Jungle Beat?’ Great. But what else have we done? I mean yes, we did’ Donkey Konga 2,’ but what else have we done?

Three games that made use of the bongos? It's not enough.

Imagine if we'd made three games that made use of the DS touch screen. It wouldn't be enough. And so that's why every game makes innovative use of the Wii remote in some way, shape or form, whether it's based on the sensor bar, the direct pointing capabilities or the use of the nunchuk. Every single game makes use of the Wii remote. That’s why I'm confident it won't be a gimmick.

One last question: What would you be doing if you weren't working in the games business?

[Pauses] I enjoy what I do. I have a passion for this industry. I have a passion for this brand. But if I suddenly hit the lottery? And didn't have to work tomorrow? You'd probably find me on an island somewhere being a dive instructor. The kind of dive instructor where if I like my clients, let's go diving! And if I don't? I'd tell them to go somewhere else

I'm glad about the admittance on the damned Bongos. I also liked the cute little story about his kids and Zelda. That was funny, and I like the fact that he actually plays games.

[Barkworm]

I think Reggie should really stop asking himself questions he'll answer with "Absolutely!"...

[Kid Icarus]

Prspeak hits again. Only... is he not as fun as Perrin? Absolutely!

[Mecha Cow]

If this (http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=9609) is true, it is great news.

[Kid Icarus]

Good. Now we won't have to remember a dozen or so codes just to play online with friends. 'Bout freakin' time.

EDIT: So, word is Nintendo shipped a million DS Lite's for Pokemons release, as well as a million copies of each game... And the shipments supposedly sold out within hours. There really isn't any proof to this yet, but it does seem likely.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Bah, screw Pokemon. As for the friend codes, they still suck ass from a straw, but this is a massive improvement. Perhaps they'll be tied to your game history stored with the Mii, and your stats can be updated to your Mii as it mingles around to other people's Wii's. That would be cool.

Man, this is a good time. Rare is finally doing something worth a damn, Sonic Team is attempting redemption (if that is possible), Nintendo is getting set to crank out multiple hits a year, and Microsoft is about to raise all sorts of hell on the 360. I'm a happy gamer.

[Peanut]

The whole "code" thing is still completely lame, which also leads me to believe that Nintendo won't have anything akin to 360's Gamerscore. Sad, but it's highly unlikely I'll be playing anything online on the Wii anyways.

[Dr. Doom]

Smash online for the win

[ThirdMarioBro]

The whole "code" thing is still completely lame, which also leads me to believe that Nintendo won't have anything akin to 360's Gamerscore. Sad, but it's highly unlikely I'll be playing anything online on the Wii anyways.

If you don't play Smash online, then you're a complete and hopeless loser.

[Dr. Doom]

You'll turn into this guy.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ca/Silver_hedgehog.png

[Peanut]

If you don't play Smash online, then you're a complete and hopeless loser.

I'll play Smash Bros. online with you guys, if it actually goes online. Remember, the last thing we heard it would be "very difficult" to get a game like Smash Bros. up and running online.

I'm just not much of an online player. I played a couple games online for awhile, but I always tend to fall out of it. I like single-player gaming much better.

[Dr. Doom]

I think that was probably meant more to suggest that the game wouldn't be out for a while. Not taking the time to get Smash online would be a GIGANTIC mistake on their part.

[Peanut]

No, that was his answer when asked about online play. He said it wasn't their main focus and that it would be very difficult to get 4 player online working properly.

[Barkworm]

I'm just not much of an online player. I played a couple games online for awhile, but I always tend to fall out of it. I like single-player gaming much better.
:thumbsup: 100% agreement.

[Dr. Doom]

Bleh... I will be majorly disappointed if it's not online, though I can certainly still appreciate it nonetheless. It'd be nice to be able to fire up a game with people without having to gather all my friends in one place (which can be difficult), but I'll take whatever I get, I suppose.

[ThirdMarioBro]

They'll get it online, but it will probobly be barebones. I don't care if it's laggy. That's never bothered me. Still, I'd rather they foucus on getting dozens of characters and musical variety included. Online is secondary to that.

[Peanut]

I don't think they will. If they can't get it up and running smoothly, I don't see any chance in it happening. Nintendo just isn't like that.

[Kid Icarus]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/Gwgtrunks/wiiinsp.jpg

Wii's cover art inspiration, or Nintendo stealing ideas? You decide!

[Mecha Cow]

How does that look anything like the Wii cover art?

[Kid Icarus]

The top.

That was something call a 'joke'. they usually make people laugh, even if they're crappy.

[Dr. Doom]

Allow me.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/Gwgtrunks/wiiinsp.jpghttp://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/7917/7917132.jpg

[Kid Icarus]

Thank you, Doom. The effort needed to link two images was/is too much for my hungover self to put forth.

[Peanut]

Are you an alcoholic? It seems like all you do is drink. lolz

Anyways, yeah. Looks stupid, just like the Wii cases.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, I think the 360 cases look perfect, but they're about the only ones. The PS3 cases are short, fat, and ugly, just like Blu-Ray cases....oh wait.

Wii cases look strange, but who cares. After Gamecube, anything is an improvement.

[Kid Icarus]

Has anyone seen the 'leaked' remote packaging? It's damn sexy.

[Kid A]

Hello. Tomorrow I have to face a long journey by train. Well actually just some hours -anyway I thought it would be a good idea to buy a Nintendo DS Lite. I wanted to buy it a long time but I always struggled with buying a PSP. But then I thought that longer gaming time and two displays is way cooler than three hours gaming time and scratched display.
So I decided to buy a DS Lite. White. Because black shows every fingerprint and stuff. But I don't know which game to buy. There are so many that look really cool and I don't know which actually are cool. What I'm looking for is an exciting game you can play at least about 10 hours. I usually play strategy or roleplaying games, but I found out that "Doctor Shiwago's Brain Thingy" (or so) could be cool as well.
Or are there any other must haves on DS? I hope you can help me. Thank you.

[Barkworm]

My personal DS favourite is "Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow". In case you aren't familar with the Castlevania franchise, it's an action game with RPG elements. You'll easily get more than 10 hours out of it. Highly recommended.
Oh, and if you like strategy, you'll probably have fun with "Advance Wars: Dual Strike".
You can check out some in-depth reviews here:
http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/searchresult.asp?term=castlevania&itemid=922145
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/924889.asp?q=advance%20wars

[Mecha Cow]

Yes, Castlevania and Advance Wars are both solid buys. I'd also recommend Mario Kart if you're a fan of racing games, and no DS owner should be without New Super Mario Bros.

[Dr. Doom]

I have a lot of fun with Metroid Prime Hunters and Mario Kart, but also play those online a lot.

[Peanut]

Mario & Luigi: Partners In Time is a solid DS RPG that'll take you a good amount of time. Then of course there's New Super Mario Bros. There's a ton of great stuff for the DS. Check out everything and anything by Nintendo, their stuff is much better than the majority of the garbage shoved on to such a beautiful handheld.

The only problem is a lot of DS games are pretty short, around 5-6 hours, but some are 10x as long. Either due to difficulty or just sheer size. And really, DS games are so cheap that buying two is the same as buying a single console game, so why not pick two up? Even if you get, say Mario & Luigi at full price, (which is still only $30) you can pick up something like Feel the Magic, or Pac-Pix, two good games, for around $10 used.

Either way, stay the hell away from the PSP.

[Dr. Doom]

I'd rather play the first Mario & Luigi for GBA. A lot of the gameplay for Partners in Time, especially the presence of the Babies, just felt horribly tacked on and I just found myself wishing I could play as Mario & Luigi alone. This is one of the few games I've actually had to stop playing out of sheer frustration. Will it keep you busy? I suppose. Is it better than the original in any way? No, not really. It doesn't really make any use of the second screen and from what I could tell, the graphics and music were about the same.

[Peanut]

What frustrated you about it? I don't really understand that, as it's not like the game is hard or anything. I just like the battle system in the second one more. The Bros. items are really cool and some of them have fun mechanics.

[Dr. Doom]

I guess I'd been annoyed enough by the presence of the babies the whole time that when I got to the last fight and remembered the ridiculously unfulfilling ending of the first game, I decided I'd had enough.

[Kid A]

Well ...Brain Training it is. It's unbelievable! I checked four or five stores in the town and not one of them has Castlevania or Advance Wars.
But the handheld itself is pretty noble.

[Peanut]

Ouch, dude. That's not going to last you very long.

And yeah, Doom. I agree. Didn't enjoy the baby aspect.

[Dr. Doom]

And yeah, Doom. I agree.

-=head explodes=-

[Hannah]

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/02/roll-your-own-mii-pre-wii/

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/02/eight-foot-400-pound-nes-replica-ftw/

Wow....just...wow.

[Peanut]

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/10/02/roll-your-own-mii-pre-wii/

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/tmntrule/mii.jpg

YEAH! Come on, let's see everyone else!

[愛]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/TheFatedBattle/MiiMe.jpg

lzolz

[Dr. Doom]

Myself and the lovely miss Hannah

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/TobiasFenrir/MeMii.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/TobiasFenrir/HannahMii.jpg

lol we all wear emo glasses

[Hannah]

It's not tranny enough to be me. :C

[The Clerk]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/Phyzogh/mii.jpg


ha, funny.

[sdp]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/sdphost/miisdp.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/sdphost/Picture011.jpg

mine is close enough though i'd like a little more options

[The Clerk]

*is the only one w/o glasses so far...*

-_-

[sdp]

i don't wear glasses, i thought they were sunglasses.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/sdphost/Picture007-1.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/sdphost/eMiily.jpg


I tried to make my girlfriend but didn't succeed at all, it definately needs more customization, specially in hair styles and colors, i know its supposed to be a simple cartoony version but it shouldn't be hard to make that slight improvement.

[Mecha Cow]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/MechaCow/Miilol.png

I demand funny hats in the final version.

[Barkworm]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/barkworm/mii.png
Haha! Needs more options though.

[Jed]

Needs way more options, I can't get any that look like me. This is the best I could get:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/JedEgan/mii.jpg

[Kid Icarus]

That site tries to force me to use outlook to get the image sent to me... and I'm too lazy to copy the screen.

Anyway... Nintendo's got a big **** up in the works. Word is that Gamestop is going to be the only chain with Wii demos until next year.

In order to play any games you have to hand over a credit card or a drivers liscense at the counter. They're keeping the controllers back there. Retardation. Big BIG mistake when the main point of the console is to get people that don't normally play games to play them. I know my mom wouldn't fork over her liscense to demo some video games.

[Peanut]

Already been confirmed as bogus. It's already known that at least one other huge retail chain, Best Buy, will be getting them. Plus, these are kiosks. That doesn't mean that places can't put out a Wii for people to toy around with, much like I've seen done in several stores with the 360.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/Mii.jpg

Wiii for Miiii and my ugly ass face.

[R-iZZy]

Jean Claude Van DAMN I'm fine!

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/821/izzymiisu7.jpg

[Toonami Tom]

This is freaky in a cool way. This is very much what I look like. Pandora's box of weird stuff has just been opened, because I now have a cartoon image of myself.:D

http://www.maj.com/gallery/AgeTec/Mii/sl_me.jpg

Although, my hair is light brown in real life.

[Peanut]

I can't be the only one extremely excited about this!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/tmntrule/yoshis-island-2-20061005034834824.jpg

[Dr. Doom]

Good gracious, babies Wario and DK!

[ThirdMarioBro]

I can't be the only one extremely excited about this!

Oh trust me, you're not. I'm dying a thousand deaths to play this. This is the game I swore we'd never see in our lifetimes. I can't believe it's actually comming.

[Kid Icarus]

I can still remember seeing the $69.99 price tag on the first game at Best Buy way back when, while I was playing the demo unit.

[Brodie]

So, lets get down to basics, on the fly information, shall we?

Price? $250
R.Date? November 19th, is that the date it'll hit the streets?
Are stores allowing preorders yet?
If so, what do you think the exchange rate for a Gamecube is?
No more colors?
Does it actually come with the two analoged basic controller that it shows on Amazon?

[ThirdMarioBro]

There are talks they are over-manufacturing them, and could wind up with as many as 11 Million by Christmas Eve. That's drop dead, slack-jaw unbelieveable. If only all console launches were like this.

[Kid Icarus]

All console launches *should* be like this, really. But no, companies have to rush everything out as soon as they can, instead of insuring they'll have enough to go around.

And brodie... you've got it mostly right. I don't know what Amazon's saying, but you get one remote, and one nunchuck attachment with the console, and wii sports. you also get, of course, the system, power and av cables, and sensor bar.

[Hannah]

JESUS CHRIST, YOSHI'S ISLAND.
lovelovelovelovelove

[TMNTerminator]

I'm sure this has been discussed/mentinoned before but I was wondering is the Wii backward compatible with GC?

[Mecha Cow]

Yeah, it is.

[愛]

http://epicsupermariobuttracing.ytmnd.com/

Oh, college boredom.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://www.rumorreporter.com/

AMN breaks the story on Wii preorders at Gamestop. Also, the story on Wal-Mart and Best Buy not getting demo kosiks is true. I can personally confirm this. Also, the story of 11 Million units at launch....


...true.

[Peanut]

I'm not taking any of that as fact. Not from a site that looks like that at least. I'll wait for either IGN or Gamespot to confirm anything. I mean, just look at his X06 crap. None of that went down, except the HD-DVD drive which was pretty mucn confirmed at TGS.

11 million Wii's at launch is overkill. Weren't they saying 4 million by December? How in the hell did it jump to 11? There's going to be a sh*t load sitting on the shelves.

[Kid Icarus]

What better way to show off the product then to have it displayed in stores...

On the other hand, it might make it seem like it's not selling. Hm.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I'm not taking any of that as fact. Not from a site that looks like that at least. I'll wait for either IGN or Gamespot to confirm anything. I mean, just look at his X06 crap. None of that went down, except the HD-DVD drive which was pretty mucn confirmed at TGS.

11 million Wii's at launch is overkill. Weren't they saying 4 million by December? How in the hell did it jump to 11? There's going to be a sh*t load sitting on the shelves.

That's our site. We just group the rumors off on that silly looking blog-esque page. Hell, I saw the damned transcript of the conversation ray had with the district manager.

[Brodie]

What the eff, not preorders on the Wii yet? its only 4 weeks away.

I went out today to preorder the Wii, cause I got a check back from my school. Well EB isn't accepting preorders, and don't know when they will. But I was able to preorder ZTP, and Marvel Alliance.

Until I'm able to preorder the Wii, I guess I'll depend solely on waiting for Battlefield 2142 for pc.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Actually, it's about six weeks away.

[Kid Icarus]

Yeah, and I still want my god damned demo station at Gamestop.

I'm sold on it, but I want to be positive on how much fun it's going to be.

[Kid Icarus]

http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/07/wii-retail-details-markup-and-endcaps/

Wii retail end-caps and new accessories leaked.

Wii dogtags FTW.

[Toonami Tom]

I'm all in favor of the s**t load of Wii consoles on store shelves. That shortage of XBox 360 consoles was a pain in the @$$. I was impatient too, and when I found my 360, which was still rare at the time, it was the Core system. I would have rather bought the Premium system.

[Peanut]

I really don't see a need to pre-order a Wii at this point anyways. Just show up when the doors open and you're probably guaranted to get one.

[Dr. Doom]

How many Wiis are being shipped in comparison to how many 360's were shipped at launch?

[Toonami Tom]

What games is everyone planning on buying at launch? I am planning on buying Red Steel, but that's all I can think of really. I'm not going to get Zelda, yet at least, because I'm really not that good at Zelda games.

[Peanut]

How many Wiis are being shipped in comparison to how many 360's were shipped at launch?

Nintendo is saying 1,000,000 Wii's on launch day in NA, correct? I think Microsoft had 325,000+ at launch in North America. 900,000 by the end of the year.

[Dr. Doom]

Well that does certianly make me feel a little more secure about having a Wii under the X-Mas Tree. Or for my birthday. Whichever comes first.


Oh, right, my birthday comes first.


Anyways, I noticed this bit in an article (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6159460.html) on Gamespot.

Discussing the Wii, Sora LLC president and Meteos co-creator Masahiro Sakurai talked about the Wii's controller in the context of Super Smash Bros. Brawl development. He gently chastised the herd-mentality among developers regarding the Wiimote. "…I think there are a lot of games that rely on the controller. There are games that use it as a racket or bat, and a game in which it's used like a scalpel to perform surgery. They all take a different approach, but this has given the impression that the controller is specialized to provide enjoyment through mimicking [activities]. However, how this develops is what's important. For example, how do you [use the Wiimote] to create the fun and addictiveness of your games?"

He also revealed that Brawl would take its own path. "We have given no thought to how we'll use the controller in Brawl. We decided to use it like a normal controller." However, he did not rule it out entirely, adding "…it will not be used in the course of normal play."

Nothing we didn't already know, I guess.

[TMNTerminator]

Nintendo is saying 1,000,000 Wii's on launch day in NA, correct? I think Microsoft had 325,000+ at launch in North America. 900,000 by the end of the year.

Man that seems like a truckload...but i guess thats much better than a shortage...at least it'll be easy to come by...unlike TMX Elmo

[ThirdMarioBro]

I'm just Sakurai knows that you don't force a controller onto a game that sure as hell dosen't need it in any way. Fu*k the GameCube controller too. Playing this sucker with the classic controller, corded or not, is going to be nirvana.

[Peanut]

Man that seems like a truckload...but i guess thats much better than a shortage...at least it'll be easy to come by...unlike TMX Elmo

When you consider that NA has somewhere around 331,470,000+ people living in it...doesn't seem like 1,000,000 is a lot. The 325,000 360 launched with seems almost like a horrible joke.

[Dr. Doom]

I'm just Sakurai knows that you don't force a controller onto a game that sure as hell dosen't need it in any way. Fu*k the GameCube controller too. Playing this sucker with the classic controller, corded or not, is going to be nirvana.

Well we're all USED to teh GC controller for Smash by now. I eprsonally don't know how I'd react to it on a classic controller....if it worked out tho, I'd be all for it, since my GC controllers are all ****ed up except for the crappy 3rd party one.

[Kid Icarus]

Actually... I still prefer the N64 controller for Smash Bros.

[Dr. Doom]

-=Beats him to death with a shoe=-

[Toonami Tom]

I just had a whacked out idea. How about a Super Mario first person shooter for Wii? There could be all kinds of Mario inspired weapons, a Koopa Shell launcher would be cool.

[Dr. Doom]

I guess it wouldn't be the most ourageous Mario-related title ever. Could be kinda fun.

[Kid Icarus]

*Trunk's shoe-bludgeoned corpse rises*

...

Why?

I'd MUCH rather Nintendo just have an original IP for a shooter. Mario's in WAY too many games now anyway.

[Cure]

I just had a whacked out idea. How about a Super Mario first person shooter for Wii? There could be all kinds of Mario inspired weapons, a Koopa Shell launcher would be cool.

Admittedly, I have thought of a Mario Paintball game myself, but I agree with Icarus, an original game might be more fun.

[Brodie]

I want a weird game that has the Universal Monsters.

Brawl should have the Gillman

[Toonami Tom]

You mean the Creature from the Black Lagoon? Yeah, he's pretty sweet. I have a bean bag character of him.:D

Too bad Master Chief can't be in SSB Brawl.:ohwell:

[ThirdMarioBro]

Wii officially supports mp3 playback. So far, it's been announced that you can play music while in the photo channel, but I wouldn't be suprised if you can use it anywhere like the main system menu or something.

This came out of nowhere, but is totally welcome nontheless.

[Peanut]

I thought it was cool to have on 360, but I've used it about twice.

[Mecha Cow]

I seriously don't see the point of it, but whatever, it's not like it detracts from the system or anything.

[Toonami Tom]

I think it's really cool that you can play music while playing games on Xbox 360. I hope the Wii can do that too. Although, I'm not sure I'm getting a Wii anymore. I will decide later.

[Peanut]

Why would you be "not sure" about getting a Wii anymore? Is it because you wasted all your money on Bomberman: Act Zero, or because you just don't want it any longer?

[Kid Icarus]

Because it doesn't have Halo on it is my bet...

[Dr. Doom]

Rather bold of you to assume he likes Halo, isn't it?

Ahem.

I've always wanted to be able to put my own music in games, especially wrestling games. I know this was possible with the Raw titles on Xbox but if nothing else made purchasing one worthwhile to me, then I can't imagine why the apparently mediocre Raw titles would. If this means customizing the music in certain games on the Wii, then I'm all for it.

[Peanut]

Because it doesn't have Halo on it is my bet...

Let's be fair here before you throw a veiled "fanboy insult" towards this poor guy. He didn't say the Wii was going to be crap or anything, he just said he was re-thinking his choice, something I mull over on a daily basis with every demo or hands-on write up I see or read. Am I a Halo fanboy as well?

I've always wanted to be able to put my own music in games, especially wrestling games. I know this was possible with the Raw titles on Xbox but if nothing else made purchasing one worthwhile to me, then I can't imagine why the apparently mediocre Raw titles would. If this means customizing the music in certain games on the Wii, then I'm all for it.

That's the problem. This isn't directly what that means. If they choose not to support custom soundtracks, something that many of the new wrestling games are against, then the option just won't be there. Plus, the Wii would need some kind of hard-drive in order to allow your songs to be used as custome entrace themes or whatever. It'll just end up being like the 360 dashboard music function. You'll be allowed to play your music over the exsisting sounds, both music and sound effects, of the game you're playing.

[Dr. Doom]

Well that's still good, I think. Mute the music of a game and play your own stuff. Actually that'd work pretty well in Wrestling games too. If any of the previous Smackdown titles are any indication, it's that the menu and match tracks are easily ignorable if not annoying as all hell. This will be good for me especially since I spend long amounts of time in teh charcter creation mode. But then again, this is all assuming THQ or whoever else decides to put some of that stuff or anything else with extensive creation on the Wii.

So how excatly do you get the music on your Wii to begin with, then?

[Toonami Tom]

Why would you be "not sure" about getting a Wii anymore? Is it because you wasted all your money on Bomberman: Act Zero, or because you just don't want it any longer?

I just don't know if I should buy another console or not yet. Especially since all I really want this year for Wii is Red Steel, which might turn out to be a crappy game for all I know.

No matter what I decide for this year, I most likely will get a Wii next year when Super Mario Galaxy and SSB Brawl are released. I'm just not sure if I'm going to be all excited and get a Wii on launch day or not.

Because it doesn't have Halo on it is my bet...

That was low.... I don't want to be your enemy though.

Peanut, the Bomberman: Act Zero thing you said was low as well.

Nobody plays nice anyways though, so I guess it's all good. *shrugs shoulders*

[Dr. Doom]

I can't say I'm terribly excited about most of the launch titles either. I'm not really as excited about the games right now as I am about the system itself. But then again, I won't be getting one until X-Mas Eve/Morning, so there will no doubt be more games I want available when I go shopping a couple days later.

[Kid Icarus]

Let's be fair here before you throw a veiled "fanboy insult" towards this poor guy. He didn't say the Wii was going to be crap or anything, he just said he was re-thinking his choice, something I mull over on a daily basis with every demo or hands-on write up I see or read. Am I a Halo fanboy as well?


It was a joke? Lollarskates and all that, funny haha smiley, ect.

Oh, and I watched someone play Dead Rising. Few problems with the animation... like the weapons just *poof* changing. I suppose that's needed, due to the ammount of action. It looks really fun though.

[Dr. Doom]

I suppose that's all that matters, isn't it?

[Kid Icarus]

What matters is that...








wait for it....








Master Chief is really Richards! OMG! O_o

[Dr. Doom]

HE'S ON NOTICE!!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/TobiasFenrir/RichardsOnNotice.jpg

[Peanut]

Peanut, the Bomberman: Act Zero thing you said was low as well.


Why did you quote me saying there was no Halo on Wii? I didn't say it.

And the Bomberman thing was a joke, come on. You know you wasted your money.

[Toonami Tom]

I didn't mean to quote you as saying theres no Halo on Wii. I was just saying that.... ah nevermind. I thank you for defending me for being a Halo fan earlier. Now we find out that Kid Icarus was only joking, and that I'm.... a stretchy dude wearing blue that leads a team of 3 others.:D

'Cause he's on notice! Or something like that. I think we're all on something.:D

[Kid Icarus]

I'm on Mr. Daniels.

Not in that way though. Hah! Bingo at a bar is insane, btw.

But yeah, sorry if I pissed anyone off. Didn't mean to.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I have absoultely no idea what any of you are talking about.

*goes to bed*

[愛]

Stop being a damn alcoholic! Jesus! I'm in college, and even I don't get as dunk as you do!

[Brodie]

You mean the Creature from the Black Lagoon? Yeah, he's pretty sweet. I have a bean bag character of him.:D



Yeah...His name is The Gill Man.