The Nintendo Discussion Thread [Archive] - Page 19

Kid Icarus

10-22-2006, 01:33 AM

And if this (http://www.wii-x2.com/index.php?id=313) is true, I'm not buying a Wii until Summer or later.

Please. There are more games for Wii then Metroid Prime, and you damn well know it. You ****ing know you're going to be waiting outside what ever store at launch to get the machine. TMB, we're olmost one in the same. I'm already planning on taking as much time from work as I can when Wii comes out, Twilight Princess or no. It's going to take a while to get used to the Wiimote, and damnit, I will.

And one thing... I'm tired of hearing all this bitching about Wii from anyone except TMB. He's the only one of us who's played it. Until we've all had a shot at the Wiimote, what grounds do we have to complain about anything? None.

Reviews are someones personal opinions about something, not solid fact. Most people gave Quest64 bad rankings (See here (http://www.gamespot.com/n64/rpg/quest64/review.html)), yet it stands as one of, if not the, most fun I've had with an RPG. iNinja also got low ranks, around 6 or 7... yet it's a damn fine action platformer.

ThirdMarioBro

10-22-2006, 01:41 AM

GK Punk

10-22-2006, 07:31 AM

See, I'm not sure what I'll do. I need to save as much money as I can over the next several months, but if Metroid comes out by let's say march, I may have to give in and buy a Wii.

It's going to suck this time, right TMB? Please tell me it is.

I'm such a sucker for Metroid :\

Barkworm

10-22-2006, 08:40 AM

Hey, March 2007 is not winter 2007 but winter 2006, isn't it?

GK Punk

10-22-2006, 09:32 AM

Yeah, I'm fairly positive. Winter 2007 means Fourth Quarter 2007 basically.

Peanut

10-22-2006, 10:14 AM

Hey, March 2007 is not winter 2007 but winter 2006, isn't it?

Bingo, friend. It's misleading. If MP3 were coming early 2007 it would be announced as Q1. Not Winter 2007.

There are more games for Wii then Metroid Prime, and you damn well know it.

Which games were those again? Either I can't remember or they don't exist...

Barkworm

10-22-2006, 10:55 AM

I wanted to say "Rayman" and "WarioWare" but apart from mini-games collections there won't be that much stuff for a while.

ThirdMarioBro

10-22-2006, 11:52 AM

It's going to suck this time, right TMB? Please tell me it is.

Nope. Not going to suck. :D

Brodie

10-22-2006, 01:08 PM

Oh, and God bless those cheater banning regulators on Xbox Live.

Oh, and Nintendo Power claimed MP3 would be comming out "Winter 2007". Something more forget is, Winter 2007 includes Janurary, February, and March. So...yeah.

Wow, hey, I remember about 6 posts ago I said this with some other dude. How about you start paying attention?

ThirdMarioBro

10-22-2006, 02:02 PM

blah blah blah

Brodie

10-22-2006, 04:58 PM

Well, now that that's settled, see you on the Wii Release day.

Peanut

10-22-2006, 05:57 PM

I wanted to say "Rayman" and "WarioWare" but apart from mini-games collections there won't be that much stuff for a while.

I guess we'll be seeing Super Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros down the road, neither of which I'll expect until at least Q3 of 07 and probably Q4 07, or even Q1 08 for Smash Bros, but other than that...who knows.

I believe there's this false sense of depth as far as the Wii's software line-up is concerned. If you want to believe that Nintendo will come through on their promise to deliever games, you can believe in the depth, but if you're skeptical it looks like the N64 or Gamecube all over again. Hopefully not as bad as the 64, pretty doubtful actually.

I mean, you can believe that Nintendo has stuff in the pipeline. Super Paper Mario I suppose, although I still think it looks kinda meh. They've gotta have an Animal Crossing in there somewhere. Star Fox and Pikmin, but where does it really go from there? And what are the chances that once all of these get out that we'll be getting a new release of our favourite franchises by the end of the consoles lifetime?

I also think 3rd Party support is going to drop off a lot quicker than expected, unless this thing pulls a DS. Even if it does, how many 3rd parties have come out with actual good games on the thing? I don't know about you guys but I own only three 3rd party games on my DS, and two of those I own because they were dirt cheap and I was trying to hook my girlfriend and sister on a DS.

I guess we'll see, but I'm not seeing any difference in this generation from any other generation following the SNES from Nintendo.

Cure

10-24-2006, 11:19 AM

Sorry importers, but lik-sang.com (http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3901) is shut down. And I'll give you two guesses as to who's behind it.

*I'm putting this in the Nintendo thread because I have many import Gamecube games and was plannin' on gettin' FF 3 for DS.

Peanut

10-24-2006, 11:47 AM

Doesn't FF3 come out here in like a month? Why would you import the Japanese version?

And yeah, Sony are douche bags.

ThirdMarioBro

10-24-2006, 12:52 PM

Son of a BITCH!

Lik-Sang was the best import site for all those little Nintendo gashapon toys. They were also one of our few sponsors at AMN. Is this how things are going to go? Sony wants to control the market, and take away all our options whatsoever. It's a matter of time before they shut down the rest.

I hope they crash and burn in hell, but that's not a very improbable dream nowadays. World peace...that's another story. Goddamn you to hell Sony. You hurt my collection this time.

Spitfire

10-24-2006, 01:02 PM

Your avy helps make your post even more angry.

I don't think Sony will go anywhere. Maybe this gen they will die but they have alota other crap to back up on. Even if their complete idiots when it comes to video games they still make TVs and other useful crap. On a market where they can't be complete idiots and could actually be useful.

Archon_Turtle

10-24-2006, 01:41 PM

Personally, I'm waiting till I put some serious time in on a first pary game for the Wii until I pass judgement. I'm involved with a Wii launch title right now, but it's a PS2 port. So I really can't base my opinion on the console until I get ahold of something designed specifically for the Wii.

Spitfire

10-24-2006, 02:19 PM

Red Steel? Yeah that game uses the remote.

Cure

10-24-2006, 03:00 PM

Doesn't FF3 come out here in like a month? Why would you import the Japanese version?

Yeah, good point.

ThirdMarioBro

10-24-2006, 05:56 PM

I can't understand why anyone would import an RPG. It's all in Japanese, and the story is the whole point. If you can't read the texy, why play the game?

The "Immersive Battle system". :lol:

Peanut

10-24-2006, 06:23 PM

Look, that's my turf. Let me handle the JRPG bashing.

Edit: I was waiting for someone to do this! http://www.siliconera.com/index.php/2006/10/23/watch-captain-n-the-game-episode-1/

Peanut

10-25-2006, 09:59 AM

I think the DS is kinda popular in Japan.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/ds-lite/newest-anime-star-the-ds-lite-209943.php

Mecha Cow

10-25-2006, 10:05 AM

What the hell? That's awesome. :lol:

ThirdMarioBro

10-25-2006, 12:09 PM

That's...never happened. Amazing.

Peanut

10-26-2006, 08:06 PM

Cure

10-26-2006, 08:59 PM

I hate Nintendo. With every hands-on impression of the Wii I hear nothing but bad things. Why couldn't they just go full force with a normal, powerful console that could stand up to 360 and PS3, then release games on a regular basis? Why? I hate them.

Really? It's been the complete opposite with me. I've read nothing but good things from hands-on impressions.

Peanut

10-26-2006, 09:11 PM

From where? IGN? Everywhere has beat around the bush for the majority of the time. Places like Gamespot and 1up, but once you get their real thoughts, or go to places that don't really care about what companies think of them, you'll find the real stuff. I've heard very few good things about it, and what I have heard is the horrible DS arguement. "It'll suck at first! Just wait a year." No, lame!

Dr. Doom

10-26-2006, 09:22 PM

Wasn't that Sony's big excuse at TGS?

Anyways, as always, I'm reserving judgement until I actually play something on it.

ThirdMarioBro

10-27-2006, 03:19 AM

Nintendo has pissed me off a lot lately, but it has nothing to do with the actual functionality of the machine. I got nothing on the controller. I get pissed about the lack of HD and the component cables, and I wasn't really pissed about the HD until they decided to banish the cables to their website again.

Am I mad at them? Yeah. But I can't hate them. It's not in my blood. I do blame them for their mistakes though, and that's been about everything lately except the controller. There's nothing wrong with it, and I can say that opinion for fact because I've actually played all the games those guys played, and in earlier, shittier builds too. Red Steel is janky because Red Steel is janky. There's a perfectly realistic way to do FPS on Wii and have it better than the conventional. It's like a combination of PC/Mouse and Metroid Prime's all stick movement, but Ubisoft and their "box" setup is a load of sh*t. Same goes for Retro's. Perhaps that's why they delayed MPrime3. They realised the control wasn't working. Good call, but I'm still mad as hell. They should've known how to do that a year ago.

Nintendo's mistakes? Fu*king with Zelda, and not having Mario at launch again, because I promise you, that's the best game Nintendo has made in a decade. When I stand in line 2 hours, THREE TIMES to play the same short 10 minute demo, it's gotta' mean something. Of course Zelda would be better with a standard controller. It's a fu*king GameCube game.

But I don't hate them. Not buying Wii before Christmas, but that's in protest on the cables, and mostly because I'll have to wait through the holidays for them to get here because I'm sure Nintendo won't produce enough. I'm not opening another fu*king Nintendo console with Composite cables. I've had quite enough of that ****.

Barkworm

10-27-2006, 04:23 AM

[...] and what I have heard is the horrible DS arguement. "It'll suck at first! Just wait a year." No, lame!
But seriously, doesn't every console suck for the first year?

Peanut

10-27-2006, 11:47 AM

I guess. The 360 hasn't been out a year yet, and it's a damn solid console. The Gamecube was solid in it's first year too. NES, SNES, Genesis. All solid. Even the original Xbox launched with some solid stuff. To my knowledge the only really crappy first year came from the PS2. At least as far as I'm concerned.

It just seems like the general feeling about the Wii, from people who've spent more than 10 minutes at a time with it, is that it's good, but not great, and that it doesn't improve upon games. At all. It's just different. And being just different isn't revolutionary. I hope to Christ I'm wrong and the Wii blows us all away come this holiday season, but I just don't see it happening. I'm still going to drop $400-$500 on the thing.

Barkworm

10-27-2006, 12:13 PM

The Metal Slug demo on "On the Spot" is definitely what I'd call "gimmicky crap" but kudos to the developers for adding so many control schemes.
Anyway, I'll just wait and see. I still have faith in this but if the Wii version of "Zelda" gets lower scores than the GC version I'll wait till "Mario Galaxy".

Peanut

10-27-2006, 12:24 PM

Mario Galaxy is the only thing I've heard nothing but good things about. No janky control issues. None of the "it just feels over complicated" crap. It's just "It works and it's fun!". I think once we get into that point in time, where games are made for the Wii and not just tacked on bullsh*t, then it'll be awesome. I just don't see that happening all the often. I'm picturing sh*tty, gimmicky, tacked on gameplay for the majority of a year, sprinkled with a hint of Nintendo brilliance two or three times a year. Honestly, I'm not sitting through that sh*t again. I've done it twice now. I don't want to do it again, but I will...I will. :(

Barkworm

10-27-2006, 12:30 PM

Mecha hit the nail on the head when he said that the Wii will probably be an "and-console". We'll all wait for those two or three great games a year and play something else for the rest of it (it's not like there are no other options). Hey, I did the same with the Game Cube!

Peanut

10-27-2006, 12:36 PM

I think we all did. I knew from the start it was going to be the secondary console. No doubt about that, but if that's so, $250 USD is too much money. I don't care what people say. They're already gouging us for the controls and stuff, and with the recent proft releases we can see they're already pulling in more cash than either Sony or Microsoft is, so why charge so much for the Gamecube 1.5? You're going to release a second-rate console, give it a second-rate price.

愛

10-27-2006, 12:38 PM

I think we're simply being charged for the technology. It took development to make this console happen. It's not some cookie-cutter technology where you upgrade the graphics, change the controller a bit, and there you go. It's not that surprising we're being charged so much, but it's still a lot for something that we might even get bored of after a month.

Peanut

10-27-2006, 12:40 PM

I think it's too much simply because they're making money on every Wii sold. They're not selling it at close to a lose, according to all reports, and even Reggie himself. We're paying for more than we're getting by all acounts.

ThirdMarioBro

10-28-2006, 12:58 AM

http://www.rumorreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/10262006007b.JPG
http://www.rumorreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/10262006009b.JPG
http://www.rumorreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/10262006002b.JPG

It's coming...

Barkworm

10-28-2006, 01:09 AM

Huh?! From where is this?

ThirdMarioBro

10-28-2006, 03:46 AM

Some Gamestop in San Fransisco putting out Wii stuff to tantalize people.

Peanut

10-28-2006, 11:21 AM

Oh goody! Look at all those awesome games! Excitetruck, Blazing Angels, CARS!?! HOORAY! /sarcasm

Barkworm

10-28-2006, 11:34 AM

Seeing this person holding Zelda in his hand makes me jealous.

Spitfire

10-28-2006, 04:12 PM

Some Gamestop in San Fransisco putting out Wii stuff to tantalize people.
I saw some at Target, Wii remote covers hahaha

Peanut

10-28-2006, 04:30 PM

Seeing this person holding Zelda in his hand makes me jealous.

It's only one of those stupid empty boxes.

Spitfire

10-28-2006, 04:42 PM

Now that I look at that picture the only game I would even play out of those is Zelda and Call Of Duty 3. And I probably wouldn't buy them.

Peanut

10-28-2006, 06:16 PM

Is there anything you DO play? Cause it seems like you don't like anything.

愛

10-28-2006, 06:20 PM

There hasn't been a DMC release for a while. What exactly do you do in the meantime?

Dr. Doom

10-28-2006, 06:45 PM

fapfapfap?

ThirdMarioBro

10-28-2006, 06:49 PM

...Got 'Em

Cure

10-28-2006, 10:19 PM

Check out this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63N1tzzs9wg&eurl=) video of some made up Wii skins. There are some that are pretty cool..........

ThirdMarioBro

10-29-2006, 12:33 AM

.......ugly.

Spitfire

10-29-2006, 01:10 AM

Is there anything you DO play? Cause it seems like you don't like anything.
Lately I've been playing Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 and when my friend comes over we try and beat Perfect mode on Perfect Dark Zero. Which is pretty damn hard. So is UMK 3. Other then that I got Okami I still need to beat.

Those are the only new games I play. I rarely play my other 360 games unless I got friends over and we do some multiplayer in Ghost Recon, Fight Night Round 3, or Perfect Dark. And sometimes when I'm really bored I play Dead Rising.

Other then that I get demos as they come out and check them out.

But really how many of you are going to buy Excite Truck, Cars, Ant Bully, Avatar, Blazing Angels*Which I played a demo for on 360 and hated*, and Dragon ball Z? The truck game I might be able to see but the rest I highly doubt.

And FYI I haven't touched DMC in forever. Not even 3 SE which I didn't even complete.

Barkworm

10-29-2006, 01:25 AM

But really how many of you are going to buy Excite Truck, Cars, Ant Bully, Avatar, Blazing Angels*Which I played a demo for on 360 and hated*, and Dragon ball Z? The truck game I might be able to see but the rest I highly doubt.
I thought we've been through this. The launch line-up is not that great but Zelda alone is more than enough (IF the new controls are fun to play that is). I'd also say Rayman looks pretty fun and I'll probably buy "Wii Play". Hey, if I can get some cheap mini games for ten bucks more, why not?

ThirdMarioBro

10-29-2006, 04:02 AM

I'm getting Excite Truck because I'm an arcade whore. You all know that. I'm also getting Metal Slug collection because I would've gotten that whatever system it was on. I mean, the whole damn series on one disc? Why yes sir, may I have another?

Spitfire

10-29-2006, 04:36 AM

You guys do know I'm only pertaining to the games in that picture right?

And yes Metal Slug owns

Mecha Cow

10-29-2006, 06:45 AM

Hey, if I can get some cheap mini games for ten bucks more, why not?
Are you saying Wii Play is only $10 more than the price of a seperate Wiimote (It comes bundled with one, right?)? If so, it might be worth a purchase.

Barkworm

10-29-2006, 09:46 AM

Yep, it comes with a Wiimote (or let's say the Wiimote comes with Wii Play) for €49,99.

Peanut

10-29-2006, 10:11 AM

Lately I've been playing Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 and when my friend comes over we try and beat Perfect mode on Perfect Dark Zero. Which is pretty damn hard. So is UMK 3. Other then that I got Okami I still need to beat.

Those are the only new games I play. I rarely play my other 360 games unless I got friends over and we do some multiplayer in Ghost Recon, Fight Night Round 3, or Perfect Dark. And sometimes when I'm really bored I play Dead Rising.

So what you're saying is you do like some games, but they're horrible? I get it.

Spitfire

10-29-2006, 04:55 PM

Coming from someone who most likely has half the same games I do I would have to say no. You have all 3 DMC games, DR, Okami, I bet you have all the RE games as well, and any DMC fan has Zone Of The Enders*Though I don't know if you do*

Yes I like totally awful games with horrible reviews and it's terrible to have games I can play with my friends. Cause being Anti-social is teh awezomez.

Peanut

10-29-2006, 07:48 PM

Actually I can't stand Resident Evil. And just because I own all 3 DMC games doesn't mean I like them.

Spitfire

10-29-2006, 08:12 PM

Well then we just have different tastes doesn't mean the games I like suck.

Peanut

10-29-2006, 11:20 PM

Well then we just have different tastes doesn't mean the games I like suck.

In some cases, no. In most cases, yes. I think this is just another one of those things where I'm the best. It's cool, man.

R-iZZy

10-30-2006, 12:26 AM

I seriously hope Nintendo can work on bringing more third-party games with a little more mature content into their line-ups, because that's been a bit of a problem for them with the GameCube and N64. They have great first-party games, no doubt... but it's like that's all Nintendo has to offer as far as their gaming library goes. When it comes to their third-party games, I really don't want the Wii to be remembered for stuff like Spongebob and Avatar. Red Steel has the potential to change that perspective from the masses. I'm still waiting out for the Wii version of Marvel: Ultimate Alliance!

But I dunno... perhaps it won't only be in my dream world where bugs explode, splattering their guts and brains everywhere in a future Metroid Prime title.

ThirdMarioBro

10-30-2006, 12:27 PM

http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=9693

In summary...

-Sega has moved a significant number of development staff from PS3 to Wii over the Summer.

Interesting.....

-Although Nintendo has removed DVD movie playback from the Wii, it plans to launch in Japan next year an enhanced Wii capable of such a feature.

Bastards

Nintendo intended to bring Wii to shop shelves in the UK and US for £150 and $200, but became influenced by pressure from the larger retail chains, which raised concerns over margins and low so-called 'basket value' (ie, the amount of revenue generated from a customer's overall purchases at the till)

BASTARDS!

There are plenty of Wii Channel slots remaining to be filled

Obvious, but good news.

Edge says that Wii Sports will be to Wii what Mario 64 was to the N64.

If that's the truth, then it is a sad world indeed for the hardcore gamer.

Peanut

10-30-2006, 01:35 PM

Edge says that Wii Sports will be to Wii what Mario 64 was to the N64.

This statement both depresses and angers me at the same time.

Dr. Doom

10-30-2006, 01:37 PM

Please explain.

Mecha Cow

10-30-2006, 01:57 PM

They just mean in terms of introducing the controls. Let's not make a big deal out of nothing.

Dr. Doom

10-30-2006, 02:02 PM

Ok, yeah, that makes sense. Though, if I recall correctly, the Camera buttons on the N64 controller were rarely actually used to control the camera after Mario 64.

Peanut

10-30-2006, 02:11 PM

Actually I recall them being used for the camera in pretty much every 3D platform/adventure game. I guess Zelda didn't though. They were however used for movement in the greatest 64 game of all time...TUROK: DINOSAUR HUNTER! God that game controlled like complete crap...

And let's hope they mean Wii Sports is comparable to SM64 in the control way, and not in the "Killer app" way. I would cry.

Dr. Doom

10-30-2006, 02:23 PM

I gues I didn't really paly to many 3D platform/adventure games. I probablt spent most of my time with Wrestling games and Smash Bros.

Peanut

10-30-2006, 02:25 PM

http://kotaku.com/gaming/wii/more-wii-secrets-revelation-coming-211056.php

What could it be!? I bet it'll be more lame stuff like "FIVE DIFFERENT WIIMOTE COLOURS!" or something to that completely stupid effect.

Dr. Doom

10-30-2006, 02:33 PM

I don't get the death by PR bit, most people seem to be reacting to it fairly well. Or is that just us? Or WAS that just us? I dunno, I don't get out of the Drome much. (Just as a reminder, Peanut =/= everybody)

Peanut

10-30-2006, 02:44 PM

It seems to be fairly split to be quite honest. It's not just us. For a console all about the "playing is believing" bit, Nintendo has let very few people do any playing.

Dr. Doom

10-30-2006, 02:46 PM

Well I guess that's to be expected when it's so different from what we as gamers are used to.

ThirdMarioBro

10-31-2006, 02:02 AM

And let's hope they mean Wii Sports is comparable to SM64 in the control way, and not in the "Killer app" way. I would cry.

Get a box of tissue then...

http://blogs.ign.com/matt-ign

When Bozon and I played [Baseball] against each other, he tried repeatedly to throw the ball slowly so that I could blast one out of the park, but he couldn't. He tried the full-arch motion (as I'm officially dubbing the exaggerated movements made by actors in all the Wii advertisements and promos) and he tried the wrist-flick motion; both resulted in super fastballs, despite the fact that he deliberately made slow gestures each time. That moves out of clunky territory and into broken country, as far as I'm concerned.

Well, yeah. Congratulations Nintendo, you fu*king suck. A pack-in is supposed to show the full power and potential of a console. It's supposed to make you have a good feeling about the next five years and what they will bring. At the very least, it should give you a good idea of the machine's abilities and teach you how to use those abilities. If Wii Sports is 80% broken, then Nintendo's "Bold new direction" is a complete failure. Swing your arm around and you win. Yeah, good innovation there. Jesus.

At least Bowling works. "Works". Wow. I can't believe I'm using the word "works" to describe a Nintendo PACK-IN title. Mario 64 my goddamn ass. Those two in the same sentence is an insult to me. Let's hope and pray Zelda works, because all the clout just fell on it's shoulders.

We so need Mario Galaxy right now. We need a fu*king MIYAMOTO game right about now. When you question the blessed word "Zelda", you know something is terribly wrong in the world. Mario is the only game I have 100% faith in right now. When was the last time we actually got one anyway? My mind is shot. I need sleep.

Mecha Cow

10-31-2006, 08:06 AM

Let's wait until it's actually released before we start blasting it. It's not that I disagree with you guys but this whole Wii discussion has been run into the ground and it's getting pretty old. All we can do now is wait until we get our hands on it ourselves.

Apparently there's a new Zelda trailer and some new Smash Bros. stuff coming up this week. So yeah, let's talk about that. Happy happy.

Barkworm

10-31-2006, 08:55 AM

If IGN's super-fanboy says it's bad, it must be horrible. :dead:

Peanut

10-31-2006, 10:43 AM

If IGN's super-fanboy says it's bad, it must be horrible. :dead:

Exactly my thoughts. The guy would take it up the ass from Reggie if he was obliged to. When he says something is bad about Nintendo, you know it has to be horrific.

When you question the blessed word "Zelda", you know something is terribly wrong in the world.

This is what blows my mind! Can anyone truly believe that we're sitting around, wondering if a ZELDA GAME is going to be any good? Out of all the franchises in videogame history, Zelda has that really "Yeah, it can't be bad. It's Zelda" thing going for it. There's no chance in it being even good. It's Zelda, it'll be great. RiGHT!?! Even Mario doesn't have that going for him. We know his games will be awesome, but he's just been so dragged out of the last generation that even he gives me some problems. Not Mario Galaxy though. That's a whole nother story. If the Wii wrecks Zelda...I don't even know.

Duke

10-31-2006, 11:25 AM

Can anyone truly believe that we're sitting around, wondering if a ZELDA GAME is going to be any good?
I have so much trouble fathoming it, but each and every time I think about picking up a Wii with Zelda in the near future, I stop and ask myself is this going to suck? I cannot believe I'm wondering if a Zelda game will suck. Something is seriously wrong when he have to ask yourself that question.

Mecha Cow

10-31-2006, 11:31 AM

Zelda is a Gamecube game, no matter how hard Nintendo tries to convice us it isn't. If you're so worried, buy it for GC.

Duke

10-31-2006, 11:36 AM

Zelda is a Gamecube game, no matter how hard Nintendo tries to convice us it isn't. If you're so worried, buy it for GC.I'm almost 100% decided that I will be getting the GC version. But the fact that I'm still wondering if the Wii version of it will suck is pretty depressing.

Mecha Cow

10-31-2006, 11:55 AM

It's depressing that they delayed the game past its console's lifespan and had to port it and add new controls, yes. It has nothing to do with the game itself.

It's a port, guys. It wasn't designed with the Wii in mind, so it's really not the best indication of the system's abilities. I am not at all sold on the Wii version either, that's why I'm getting for GC.

I can't believe I of all people am defending this game. :lol:

ThirdMarioBro

10-31-2006, 12:12 PM

And launching with a port is one of the dumbest things ever. I wanted the Wii version so badly because I'm tired of playing Zelda in 4:3. *sigh*

Duke

10-31-2006, 12:58 PM

And launching with a port is one of the dumbest things ever.Exactly...

Mecha Cow

10-31-2006, 02:10 PM

My point was that we've gone over this a million times already. Damn droughts.

ThirdMarioBro

10-31-2006, 02:33 PM

*goes back to PDZero's classic map downloads, new dashboard update, and gets ready for Halloween*

Screw droughts.

Peanut

10-31-2006, 02:42 PM

Man, PDZ is dead! Do you even play games anymore? I don't think you do.

And Mecha, I'm still thinking about this because if I do end up picking up a Wii come launch day, what am I going to buy? If Zelda for GC launched along side the Wii, I'd get it, but it's not going to. That's the part that depresses me.

Dr. Doom

10-31-2006, 03:33 PM

I hate to say it, but I'm probably gonna end up with more PS2 stuff for birthday/X-Mas this year than I am for Wii or anything else (unless something else I want other than TP and Marvel UA comes out before then). I've gotta get FFXII, Okami and Guitar Hero II, as well as Smackdown vs Raw 07 (which I'm hesitant about...I enjoyed 06 so much I'm almost reluctant to replace it...especially considering I really don't care about any of the real wrestlers anymore with Jericho gone and The Hurricane gimmick hung up, as well as the lack of ECW in the roster...but now I'm sorta getting off topic, I guess...)

Mecha Cow

10-31-2006, 03:42 PM

And Mecha, I'm still thinking about this because if I do end up picking up a Wii come launch day, what am I going to buy? If Zelda for GC launched along side the Wii, I'd get it, but it's not going to. That's the part that depresses me.
Oh, you don't want to wait for the GC version?

Dr. Doom

10-31-2006, 03:56 PM

Suprisingly, this was NOT taken from Gamespot, as most of the news I post is.

Smash Bros. Set For Nintendo World
Nintendo to show new game footage.
by Anoop Gantayat

October 31, 2006 - Nintendo is all set to kick off its Japanese Wii tour in a couple of days. While Japanese gamers will go to the Nintendo World event to get some hands-on time with the Wii console, it turns out that the centerpiece of the event could actually be something unplayable.

The official Smash Bros. website reveals today that Nintendo will be showcasing a new trailer for Wii's Smash Bros. Brawl at the event. According to the site, the trailer will offer a chance at seeing, for the first time ever, in-game footage of the game's new characters.

Could this mean new cast members will be shown? Or are we just going to get an in-game view of the characters that were shown at E3? The first Nintendo World event kicks off in Nagoya on Friday, so expect more details over the next few days.

I was actually just thinking to myself how I really wanted some new info on the game. Hopefully this will reveal some new stuff and not just dwell on what we already know.

Barkworm

10-31-2006, 04:18 PM

I hate to say it, but I'm probably gonna end up with more PS2 stuff for birthday/X-Mas this year than I am for Wii or anything else
I think it's interesting that unlike GC and XBox which were just kind of killed off without any dignity, the PS2 is really having one hell of a funeral. Just look at all those awesome games!

Dr. Doom

10-31-2006, 04:20 PM

It's really been an exceptional system in the seemingly infinite number of great games that were released for it, if nothing else. And mine is still clinging to life, god bless it.

Barkworm

10-31-2006, 04:25 PM

Are we actually praising the PS2?!

Dr. Doom

10-31-2006, 04:38 PM

Seems we've run out of great things to say about Nintendo.

Peanut

10-31-2006, 05:17 PM

I think it's interesting that unlike GC and XBox which were just kind of killed off without any dignity, the PS2 is really having one hell of a funeral. Just look at all those awesome games!

The Xbox died when 360 hit and the Gamecube died following the release of RE4. You also have to take into consideration that the PS2 drastically outsold the both of them. Xbox is completely obsolete with the 360 being out, and the Cube has pretty much been obsolete it's entire life, with the exception of the couple weeks a year we would be playing Nintendo-made games.

It's only a matter of time for the PS2. Once PS3 hits, it's done. God of War 2 will be the last thing for it that anyone cares about. Okami has been out for months. FFXII...well...gay. GH2 and SDvsR will be out for 360. I still can't believe Sony is just letting this thing die. The installed base is so gigantic it's insane.

And really, once those 360 games for 07 start rolling out, the PS2 is a distant memory for me.

Oh, you don't want to wait for the GC version?

It's not that I don't want to wait as much as I can't wait. I know that if I pick up a Wii I'll pick up TP at the same time. That's just the way I am. I'll probably ending up dropping cash on more sh*t than I really need.

The official Smash Bros. website reveals today that Nintendo will be showcasing a new trailer for Wii's Smash Bros. Brawl at the event. According to the site, the trailer will offer a chance at seeing, for the first time ever, in-game footage of the game's new characters.

This is totally awesome news. Give us something to actually care about the Wii for. Plz, Nintendo?

Dr. Doom

10-31-2006, 05:32 PM

I definately apprecaite the Gamecube's existance a lot more than Peanut, if only because of how much Smash I've played over the last 4 years. It's a staple of the relationship I ahve with a few of my freinds and actually it's what brought us together in the first place. But there were also the Metroid Primes and Wind Wakers and Tales of Symphonias and such that made it worthwhile as well.

Peanut

10-31-2006, 05:35 PM

I didn't mean it wasn't worthwhile. I mean besides the few Nintendo games that were released every year, my Gamcube collected mad dust yo. I play everything, so I don't have the time, or really the need/want to play a game for 4+ years.

Besides, you're totally a casual gamer. I'm coming from the loser gamer standpoint. I don't do anything besides play games!

Dr. Doom

10-31-2006, 05:36 PM

ExCUSE ME?! Did you jsut call me a CASUAL GAMER?! Do you know how much time I've spent playinG WoW since January 05? I practically live game to game! What gives you even the VAGUE idea that I'm a casual gamer?

Peanut

10-31-2006, 05:38 PM

ExCUSE ME?!

Oh snap! Mr. Casual is getting out of control.

Don't be like Lain now. I tell him he's a PC Nerd and he goes off his rocker.

Uh, dudes...BTWZZ!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_rAm7cYgNQ
I picture TMB and GWG standing side-by-side in some horrible poser gangsta clothes performing this song. GWG in the back "bouncin'" with his arm and TMB throwing down the beats in his DK tie.

Dr. Doom

10-31-2006, 05:40 PM

You've got a hot girlfriend, I'm twice the nerd you are!

Oh, I just got myself a little. :C

Where the hell do you get off calling me casual? What evidence have you to back up this slanderous claim?

Peanut

10-31-2006, 05:46 PM

Where the hell do you get off calling me casual? What evidence have you to back up this slanderous claim?

Motha f*cka you be trippin'! Just cause you played a couple games a lot don't mean no thang! Brotha's be playin' Madden 24/7, 365, 4:20, naw what I'm sayin'? That don't not make them hardcizore! Motha f*cka you never even owned an Xbox! Unless you repin' games on da whole, you be a casual b*tch! PEACE!

Dr. Doom

10-31-2006, 05:48 PM

YOU WANNA E-FIGHT ABOUT IT!?!?

I've spent enough time on my PS2, Gamecube, GBA, DS and PC to more than compensate for my lack of an Xbox. Apparently you're a casual gamer if you don't waste your money on something you don't want.

And I don't see you going to an anime con in Detroit this weekend to hang out with a band that plays video game music.

And if I do, we're gonna e-fight, but like IRL! >:[

Peanut

10-31-2006, 07:15 PM

I've spent enough time on my PS2, Gamecube, GBA, DS and PC to more than compensate for my lack of an Xbox. Apparently you're a casual gamer if you don't waste your money on something you don't want.

And I don't see you going to an anime con in Detroit this weekend to hang out with a band that plays video game music.

And if I do, we're gonna e-fight, but like IRL! >:[

You miss my point. I play everything I can get my hands on. You play very little. Apparently you've even admitted this to some people.

And I don't go to anime cons because I'm not queer. Plus, bands that play video game music often suck so horribly it isn't even polite to mention them. I did however go to Videogames Live, so...yeah. You suck. Again.

And lets be fair here, you can't compete with me. My casual gaming would be hardcore for you. SO BACK OFF FO I POP YA!

Edit: Wii and VC "Launch Window" games announced.
These will be released either on launch day, or before the end of 2006.

Wii Games

* Wii Sports [Launch title]
* The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess [Launch title]
* EXCITE TRUCK [Launch title]
* Call of Duty(R) 3
* Marvel(TM) Ultimate Alliance
* Rapala(R)
* Tournament Fishing
* Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam(TM)
* World Series of Poker(R): Tournament of Champions
* Dragon Ball Z(R): Budokai Tenkaichi(TM) 2
* Trauma Center(TM): Second Opinion
* Madden NFL '07
* Need for Speed(TM): Carbon
* Elebits(TM)
* Happy Feet(TM)
* Rampage(R): Total Destruction(TM)
* The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy(TM)
* The Ant Bully
* Super Monkey Ball(TM): Banana Blitz
* Metal Slug(TM) Anthology
* Super Swing Golf
* Avatar: The Last Airbender
* Barnyard(R)
* Cars
* SpongeBob SquarePants(TM): The Creature from the Krusty Krab
* Far Cry(R): Vengeance
* GT Pro Series
* Monster 4X4 World Circuit
* Open Season(TM)
* Rayman Raving Rabbids(TM)
* Red Steel(TM)
* Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent(TM)
* Ice Age 2(TM): The Meltdown

Virtual Console Games

* Mario Bros.(R)
* The Legend of Zelda(R)
* Donkey Kong(R)
* Donkey Kong Jr. (R)
* Ice Hockey
* Pinball
* Soccer
* Tennis
* Urban Champion(R)
* Wario's Woods(TM)
* Baseball
* Solomon's Key
* F-Zero(R)
* SimCity(TM)
* Super Mario(R) 64
* Sonic the Hedgehog
* Altered Beast
* Golden Axe
* Columns
* Ecco the Dolphin
* Gunstar Heroes
* Space Harrier II
* Toe Jam & Earl
* Ristar
* Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
* Bonk's Adventure
* Super Star Soldier
* Victory Run
* Bomberman '93
* Dungeon Explorer

Dr. Doom

10-31-2006, 07:23 PM

Again I have no idea where you're getting this from, you have presented me with no evidence whatsoever except that I don't own an Xbox, which is totally ridiculous. We're gonna e-fight.

Peanut

10-31-2006, 07:25 PM

Again I have no idea where you're getting this from, you have presented me with no evidence whatsoever except that I don't own an Xbox, which is totally ridiculous. We're gonna e-fight.

Listen, you're just lame! All you play is WoW! Besides, I was messing with your teeny head again. More important info in my previous post, friend.

Dr. Doom

10-31-2006, 07:26 PM

The arguement was that I'm a bigger loser than you, and you've just admitted that I've won. I'm gonna go cut myself.

Peanut

10-31-2006, 07:28 PM

The arguement was that I'm a bigger loser than you, and you've just admitted that I've won. I'm gonna go cut myself.

Well if that was the arguement than I should have flown the white flag right off the bat. You are more of a loser than me. I'm man enough to admit I'm no longer the biggest one on the forums. *sad face*

Dr. Doom

10-31-2006, 07:30 PM

Do you still have a Dreamcast? =3

We're arguing in like 3 threads at once, roofles.

Peanut

10-31-2006, 07:33 PM

Do you still have a Dreamcast? =3

I never owned a Dreamcast. I was a rather young lad when it first came out and my mother forbid me to buy another console. I just never got around to getting it...HOWEVER, I have discovered my girlfriend has bought one for me. I've been looking around for one for awhile, but she found one. So I'm covered there.

Dr. Doom

10-31-2006, 07:36 PM

What are you, 12? I was like 14 when Dreamcast came out. That's practically old enough to drink. I had my big boy hair and everything.

Peanut

10-31-2006, 07:40 PM

What are you, 12? I was like 14 when Dreamcast came out. That's practically old enough to drink.

Listen, ugly. We're basically the same age. You still can't afford anything. And it wasn't that I didn't have the money to buy one, it was that my mom wouldn't let me! We've been through the mother conversation before! I know you've never had one, so you don't even know!

Dr. Doom

10-31-2006, 07:44 PM

What? A mother or a Dreamcast? Cause I have both. :|

And I can't afford anything cause I spend more time playing games than I do working. IT'S A TRAP!

Peanut

10-31-2006, 07:46 PM

What? A mother or a Dreamcast? Cause I have both. :|

OK. Enough of your garbage, jerk! On to better things.

Interesting Wii/VC games anyone? After reading some stuff on Elebits, it seems totally cool. The way your wiimote is like an extension of yourself. Using it to perform actions like opening doors and moving stuff around sounds totally awesome.

As for VC games, there are a couple I'll probably get. Bonk's Adventure and Toe Jam & Earl right at the top. Maybe Mario 64...again...*sigh*

Dr. Doom

10-31-2006, 07:48 PM

I'd rather just play it on DS. nothing on that list really excited me. Ristar's an awesome game, btu my friend who's GC is busted has Sonic Mega Collection, so I don't really need to buy it.

Brodie

10-31-2006, 09:36 PM

You guys are such tools...But Peanuts right because he's getting me Gears of War...

Dr. Doom

10-31-2006, 09:52 PM

Have fun playing as Hawkeye in Ultimate Alliance.

ThirdMarioBro

11-01-2006, 02:03 AM

Where is Super Mario World on that list? Okay, so the VC launches with Urban Champion and no Super Mario World? You fail Nintendo. You fail.

Elebits seems somewhat interesting to me, but there are other things on my list that come before it.

Mecha Cow

11-01-2006, 05:44 AM

They're just spreading the stuff out. I'm actually pretty interested in the VC since I missed out on most of those games. Do you guys have any recommendations that don't suck or are RPG's?

*E* The Hylia (www.thehylia.com) has some new TP screens for those who care. Looks nice, but that Wii HUD is nasty. Those giant red crosshairs need to go. Also, looks like Aonuma (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/topics/interview/vol5/img/p26.jpg) had a little makeover. :lol:

Brodie

11-01-2006, 09:25 AM

Have fun playing as Hawkeye in Ultimate Alliance.

Deadpool is a nancyboy.

Peanut

11-01-2006, 09:44 AM

Some Japanese magazines have copies of Twilight Princess for the Wii. Initial reports are that they're amazed at how good it is. The word "intuitive" popped up a lot. Along with stuff like, "a different kind of exhilaration" and, "The oneness with the character has improved greatly than a past controller." This can only mean good things for the Wii version of TP. I just hope we get some final reviews before the Wii releases here.

愛

11-01-2006, 09:53 AM

After hearing this, I was taken back to the times of Ocarina of Time, when I could basically play that game without even thinking about it. Intuitive means something like that. If Twilight Princess is anything like that, where I can just sit back and play the game and enjoy it for what it is, I'll be happy.

Cure

11-01-2006, 10:44 AM

I have to say I'm a little bit relieved after hearing those TP impressions.

Barkworm

11-01-2006, 11:05 AM

Good to hear, although my respect for the Japanese gaming press is limited.

Dr. Doom

11-01-2006, 11:44 AM

That's definately some good news, especially since everynone here sort of turned incredibly pessimistic lately in regards to everything Wii-related.

As far as the VC goes, I dunno, as I look at it again, some of those Genesis titles look more and more interesting. My access to Genesis as a kid was always limited, so there were a lot of games that I got a taste pf, but never really got to spend an extensive period of time with. Such as Streets of Rage or the X-Men 2 (I actually did have a lot of time with the first X-Men but I'd love to play it again). Unfortunately, I'm not sure where licensed games will fall into this whole thing.

ThirdMarioBro

11-01-2006, 01:32 PM

I'm sure they'll work something out eventually. I want to buy back all of those old Disney Mickey Mouse platformers for SNES and Genesis. They were all awesome.

http://www.thehylia.com/cutenews/data/upimages/tp_linkeponacolin.jpg

Looks like the whole game really is mirrored. Doesn't matter I suppose, but it does look strange. Those (late) impressions are encouraging and relieving, but I'm still not picking one up before the 25th. I'm not playing Twilight Princess on composite cables. It's just too pretty to waste like that, and it'll take two/three weeks for those damn things to come through the mail. I could be almost halfway through the game by then. I'll wait thanks.

Cure

11-01-2006, 02:00 PM

A pretty positive preview (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=148454) of Call of Duty 3.

ThirdMarioBro

11-01-2006, 02:32 PM

Okay, I'm pissed off here. This is practically no different than any past pre-internet console launch. Why the hell are we getting practically HALF the VC games that Japan is getting? Here's a comparison. Everything we're not getting is labeled red.

NES

# Mario Bros.
# The Legend of Zelda
# Donkey Kong
# Donkey Kong Jr.
# Ice Hockey
# Pinball
# Soccer
# Tennis
# Urban Champion
# Wario's Woods
# Baseball
# Solomon's Key
# The Legend of Kage
# Gradius
# Gomoku Narabe
# Super Mario Bros
# Xevious
# The Legend of Zelda
# Solomon's Key
# Ninja Jaja Marukun

Super NES

# F-Zero
# SimCity
# Super Mario World
# Zelda: A Link to the Past
# Fire Emblem: Monshou no Nazo
# Super Mario Picross
# Donkey Kong Country
# Street Fighter II
# Contra Spirits
# R-Type III
# Super Castlevania

Nintendo 64

# Super Mario 64

SEGA Genesis

# Sonic the Hedgehog
# Altered Beast
# Golden Axe
# Columns
# Ecco the Dolphin
# Gunstar Heroes
# Space Harrier II
# Toe Jam & Earl
# Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
# Shadow Dancer
# Puyo Puyo
# Ristar the Shooting Star

TurboGrafx-16

# Bonk's Adventure
# Super Star Soldier
# Victory Run
# Bomberman '93
# Dungeon Explorer
# Necromanser
# New Adventure Island
# Battle Load Runner
# Bomberman '94

I've got a bad feeling they're going to pretend that anything which was never released outside of Japan will stay unreleased, thus pretending the internet doesn't exist and that their fanbase doesn't know these games exist. Complete and total bullsh*t. Also, where the hell is Super Mario World, which we were already promised would be at launch during their press briefing a month ago? It costs them nothing to put these games up for download. Nothing. Just the push of a button. And where do they get off thinking that two measly SNES games will do the job? I'm tired of this Nintendo-enforced image that the only thing they believe people consider "classic" is the NES and everything past that timespan is too recent.

Peanut

11-01-2006, 03:42 PM

Yeah, that's pretty dumb. Some of them I can understand, like those zany Japanese games that so few people care about anyways, but why do they get DKC, SMW, LttP and we don't? That makes little to no sense to me.

I'm sure we'll get them eventually, though. Even without those games, it's still a great list of games we're getting. I pray Bonk's Adventure is there on launch day. I've wanted to play it so badly for years.

ThirdMarioBro

11-01-2006, 03:51 PM

Yeah, it's still a good list and all, but games like DKC bombed horribly in Japan, yet they are getting it. Why can't we get the games like Super Mario Picross, even though it would probably bomb here? It's not like it costs them anything, and I want to play the puzzle games I missed out on like that. Super Mario World should be there. What's with the complete lack of any SNES representation on that list? I consider that my home console. Hell, we're getting all the new retail software at practically the same time, so the lack of VC software smells suspicious.

I also wonder if Final Fantasy VI (SNES) will still be branded FFIII when we're living in an age where people laugh hysterically at that re-branding crap.

Dr. Doom

11-01-2006, 03:54 PM

They're calling it VI on GBA, aren't they?

Cure

11-01-2006, 04:03 PM

Well, doesn't the Wii launch later in Japan? So isn't possible by that time we will have those games, too? I dunno, just takin' a shot in the dark...............

ThirdMarioBro

11-01-2006, 04:06 PM

They're calling it VI on GBA, aren't they?

True, but then there's that whole "Retro" stigma. We'll see I suppose.

And yeah, the Wii comes out in Japan later, but that list is supposed to represent what we'll be getting through January according to NOA.

Peanut

11-01-2006, 04:08 PM

And yeah, the Wii comes out in Japan later, but that list is supposed to represent what we'll be getting through January according to NOA.

Yep. The list details what we'll get from launch day, up until the new year. Hopefully we'll start hearing stuff about new VC (and regular Wii) games come December.

ThirdMarioBro

11-01-2006, 04:37 PM

Yeah, all this mystery 18 days to launch pisses me off.

Cure

11-01-2006, 06:07 PM

Twilight Princess impressions and Q&A here. (http://forum.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=35042) Loads of info and stuff.

ThirdMarioBro

11-01-2006, 07:38 PM

Yeah, Nintendo is flying two guys from AMN to play the game tomorrow and they told us the Embargo's don't go out until Monday on the videos. Still, it's great to know the game has worked out. This makes me smile big and wide...

Simply amazing. I mean, Zelda always has great music, but every now and then a tune will play in the background and you’ll be like “I’ve got to stop playing cos that tune is just something else”. There’s one in the first area that’s based on an older Zelda tune but it’s remixed and is just divine. There’s plenty more to say on the subject but I won’t because some of the enemy sound effects and the Twilight Realm tunes are really ominous and it would ruin the surprise if I talked about them. It’ll definitely be worth buying the soundtrack though (hmmm, maybe we should look into doing a TP soundtrack on the cover of the mag. . .).

Niiiiiice :D Best news I've heard in ages.

Peanut

11-01-2006, 08:21 PM

One thing that sucks is it isn't orchestrated, but all midi. That seems kind of lousy for this generation doesn't it? :-?

Jo Dawn

11-01-2006, 08:25 PM

Hmm, while I love the orchestrated music, I'd really have to hear the midi before making judgement on it. Granted, I find the actual story more important than graphics and how technologically new it all is, but music is so important to mood and even foreboding... I'm interested to hear it now. Very interested.

Peanut

11-01-2006, 08:32 PM

According to the latest issue of the UK's Nintendo: The Official Magazine, the Wii will output at the relatively impressive 720p, not the low-end, and still rumored, 480p.

WOAH NOW! Could this be one of those "surprises" Nintendo was saying they still had in store? This would be awesome news!

ThirdMarioBro

11-01-2006, 08:33 PM

MIDI has it's strengths. You can adapt music to a situation if it's pre-recorded. MIDI can change to suit the mood of the experience mid-song. Besides, MIDI is a broad term. I'm personally hoping that the music is sample based, much akin to the Super NES. Sampled music can sound almost as good as the real thing something, and still retain the adaptive versatility of MIDI.

ThirdMarioBro

11-01-2006, 08:34 PM

WOAH NOW! Could this be one of those "surprises" Nintendo was saying they still had in store? This would be awesome news!

WHAT!?!?!?!?

WHERE DID THIS COME FROM?

Dr. Doom

11-01-2006, 09:28 PM

OMFG ur lettarz r HYEWJ

Barkworm

11-01-2006, 11:58 PM

One thing that sucks is it isn't orchestrated, but all midi. That seems kind of lousy for this generation doesn't it? :-?
Huh? Where did you hear that? I thought it was confirmed that there will be some orchestrated music in the game.

Peanut

11-02-2006, 12:05 AM

Huh? Where did you hear that? I thought it was confirmed that there will be some orchestrated music in the game.

It was in that impressions link C4A posted. The music is all midi. He said it's really good midi, but at some points you can tell where the synth just doesn't work out like a real score would.

Barkworm

11-02-2006, 12:11 AM

What? But the orchestrated music was one of their big announcements at last year's E³! Suckers...

Peanut

11-02-2006, 12:13 AM

What? But the orchestrated music was one of their big announcements at last year's E³! Suckers...

Well, maybe this guy is just an idiot and he doesn't know what he's talking about? He is English after all, at least it seems so. He did use the words "rubbish and "mate".

So, a Nintendo machine gets another role in a TV show. This time it's the Wii in South Park! Cartman wants one and can't stand the wait apparently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go%2C_God._Go%21_Part_II

I'm about to go watch the episode right now! Totally awesome!

HAHA! "I've been waiting for this thing to come out for months...and now...everyday...time is slowing down. It's like waiting for Christmas, times a thousand!"

Barkworm

11-02-2006, 12:18 AM

Nintendo said that not all music in the game will be orchestrated but this guy says it's ALL midi. Weird. Maybe he is an idiot.

ThirdMarioBro

11-02-2006, 01:23 AM

Who knows, who cares. Koji Kondo is Koji Kondo. Medium doesn't matter.

Mecha Cow

11-02-2006, 06:01 AM

I think the dude posts on GAF too, he says only certain tracks are orchestrated. Whatever, I couldn't care less. I'm not going to pretend I can actually tell the difference. As long as the actual music is good, and with Kondo on the job I'm not worried.

*E* Trailer and stuff (http://thehylia.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1162456769&archive=&start_from=&ucat=4&).

Peanut

11-02-2006, 10:58 AM

OK...that trailer...totally saved face for me. I'm super hyped for this game again. Wow, does it ever look good. And yeah, if that music is snyth, bring it the f*ck on. Wii, Twilight Princess, launch day, I'm there.

ThirdMarioBro

11-02-2006, 11:21 AM

Have fun. Knew you'd crack. :lol:

Said it once, saying it again. I'm not touching the thing without Component cables, and that'll probably take about a month to get ahold of anyway, so I may as well save a buck and Christmas it. I'm not wasting something that beautiful on Composite cables. I know, it's stupid, but I'm holding to it. I might crack and pick it up on launch day, but I still won't touch the machine without the cables. Either way, that trailer redeemed the game in my eyes too. Notice Links voice. He sounds older now.

Oh, and might I say, anybody who posts spoilers after this sucker launches will get their ass handed to them. Just a friendly warning. :D

Peanut

11-02-2006, 11:30 AM

Oh, and might I say, anybody who posts spoilers after this sucker launches will get their ass handed to them. Just a friendly warning. :D

Agreed. Apparently this game has a ton of awesome surprises. If I get spoiled, the person responsible will be BANNED, then I'll come to your house and kill everyone you love.

And listen here, I'm hardcore into HD visuals. I need that component cable, but I'll be damned if I'm going to pass up on this game because Nintendo are stupid assholes! Do I hear camp out? If I do so, I'll take my laptop and use the WiFi from the store to do updates on here!

ThirdMarioBro

11-02-2006, 11:32 AM

You see, if they'd put the damn cables online like...now, before the machine launches, there would be no problem whatsoever. *sigh*

I dunno what to do.

The more I watch that trailer, the more I remember why a year ago that this game was supposed to be the successor to my favorite title ever. After that trailer, I think it still is. The game looks downright moving. Ahhh, thank heavens it's shaping up. Now the Wii launch is again a joyous occasion.

I'm having a hard time getting back into hype mode again, but I'll be damned if that isn't one of the most beautiful trailers I've ever seen.

Dr. Doom

11-02-2006, 11:54 AM

I didn't watch the videos because of the "watch at your own risk" warnings, I assumed there were spoilers. Is it safe to assume there are not?

ThirdMarioBro

11-02-2006, 11:58 AM

They're mostly updated/Wii Upgraded/Mirrored version of scenes we've already seen.....except that one half second shot of Zelda....holy Ring Pops batman, that was awesome.

Let's also say, Link's transformation is MUCH more gruesome now. Rwasome.

Peanut

11-02-2006, 12:10 PM

I didn't watch the videos because of the "watch at your own risk" warnings, I assumed there were spoilers. Is it safe to assume there are not?

Just watch the trailer. There aren't any spoilers in any of the stuff on there, but the trailer is just like something you'd expect to see. No plot details are thrown out there or anything.

Mecha Cow

11-02-2006, 12:26 PM

It all depends on how much you've been following the game and what you consider a spoiler or not. If you've seen the previous trailers, you should have no problems with this one, and the title sequence is spoiler-free.

And I think it's weird that they changed his voice. The game goes crazy with the OoT references, yet they ditch the OoT voice? I liked that one a lot better, anyway, but whatever.

Barkworm

11-02-2006, 12:36 PM

I remember an IGN news post in which they said that it's the same VA.

Cure

11-02-2006, 12:38 PM

For those of you that care, I work at Gamestop and we're getting Gamestop brand component cables for Wii for $60 come launch day.

ThirdMarioBro

11-02-2006, 12:41 PM

It's actually the same voice, but the actor is no longer masking their voice in the higher pitch so that Link sounds a bit older. I like the change actually. Suits him.

Also, notice the Master Sword's placement. The stone he pulls it out of is the same as OoT, but the Temple is gone, yet you can still see the remains of where a temple once stood, and the sun shines down on the sword from the same direction, except there is no stain glass, and it's cutting through the now grown up forest....just like a Link to the Past, or in this case, the A Link to the future....

Some little time line references for 'ya.

For those of you that care, I work at Gamestop and we're getting Gamestop brand component cables for Wii for $60 come launch day.

Say that again in big. bold. letters. so that I can hear it ring from the heavens, because if it's true.....

LAUNCH IS BACK ON BITCHEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even if the price is goddamn insane.

Dr. Doom

11-02-2006, 02:20 PM

Well I certainly don't wanna watch the intro....whenever I get a new game I always it down and let the intro play first, it's like a religious experiance. I don't wanna take that away. So uh...which one's the trailer?

Mecha Cow

11-02-2006, 02:32 PM

The second video is the trailer. There are also some links to smaller videos at the bottom of the page, but they are all like ten seconds long.

Peanut

11-02-2006, 04:50 PM

For those of you that care, I work at Gamestop and we're getting Gamestop brand component cables for Wii for $60 come launch day.

Gamestop brand? So I guess that means those of us who don't even have a Gamestop are sh*t out of luck? *sigh*

ThirdMarioBro

11-02-2006, 08:30 PM

Okay losers, tonight's going to be a good night. Nintendo World is on in Japan right now, and we're getting some goodies. new Twilight Princess videos, new info on Super Mario Galaxy (possible new trailer, but unconfirmed) and we have confirmation of a new Smash Bros. Brawl trailer to go up sometime within the next 12 hours or so.

New shot of Fox from Brawl.

http://www.4colorrebellion.com/media/pics/06/11/ssbb_fox.jpg

Apparently based off the ugly ass Star Fox Command artwork. Yuck. Anyway, more to come.

Peanut

11-02-2006, 09:57 PM

I'm hoping we get some totally awesome stuff. Here's hoping for some more cool character announcements. Apparently the new trailer has already been shown though, so the fact that Fox is the only thing to come out of it is pretty damn disappointing.

And Fox doesn't look bad at all. I think the hate the new character designs got was pretty over exaggerated. It isn't like there's a gigantic difference between the re-design and the older stuff anyways.

BTW, can I get some counts of how many times people have watched the new TP trailer? 8 over here.

ThirdMarioBro

11-02-2006, 10:10 PM

I'll tie you at eight.

Peanut

11-02-2006, 10:13 PM

I'm still freaking out about how good that music is. I'm so glad that trailer got released, I'm totally getting hyped the hell up for the Wii again.

ThirdMarioBro

11-02-2006, 11:05 PM

We're all emotional little children. We go up and down by the hour. :lol:

Brodie

11-02-2006, 11:52 PM

Peanut is like John Kerry, FlipFloppy.

Mecha Cow

11-03-2006, 09:42 AM

New Smash Bros. trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3xbx5iHTxo)! Yoshi's Island level! Mario Kart level! Metal Gear Solid level! I don't care if it doesn't look 'next-gen' or whatever that even means, this game looks awesome. Screw Zelda, THIS I'm excited about.

Peanut

11-03-2006, 10:50 AM

愛

11-03-2006, 10:53 AM

I agree. It...looks the same. I was excited to see the trailer myself, and I was completely let down.

And how could you be excited for Smash more than Zelda? I don't understand that.

Mecha Cow

11-03-2006, 10:57 AM

Because I haven't been pleased with Zelda for over 2 years now and I really like the look of this new Smash Bros.? I feel the exact same way you feel right now whenever someone orgasms over TP, but I don't comment on it.

Sucks that you didn't like the trailer I guess.

Peanut

11-03-2006, 11:03 AM

I should clarify that I don't think the game looks bad in the least. I'm just pissed that this is the trailer we got after all this time. Especially with all the hype surrounding the announcement of a "new" character. I hardly consider Fox with a make-over new.

And Mecha, come on, dude. I love Wind Waker more than any other Zelda game, but are you really that bent out of shape because they went back the way the franchise has always been viewed? I mean...seriously.

Mecha Cow

11-03-2006, 11:11 AM

I didn't even bring up Wind Waker. I'm not comparing the game to anything. I just don't really like the direction they took. I know I'm the only person in the world who feels this way, but that's still how it is. Big deal. I'm not saying the game sucks or anything. I just don't think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread like everyone else seemingly does.

ThirdMarioBro

11-03-2006, 11:16 AM

Are you...joking? I was so totally unimpressed by that trailer. It looks exactly the same as Melee. And I don't mean graphics wise. Melee was beautiful anyways, and this looks totally awesome, but in terms of the game itself..I mean...I don't know. That one part where Mario is fighting Link totally made me think, "I've played this exact same thing a zillion times before!" and I even said out loud "This looks exactly the same." Completely let down.

You've gotta be on some serious crack if you think this looks better than Zelda. At least in this point in time.

I've got to disagree. First of all, I want it to play exactly the same. i said that from day one. I don't want the Wii-remote forced into this in any way, period. I don't want it at all. I wanted this to play exactly like Melee because it's going to be online. In the future, they can make us wave our arms around all they want, but not this time.

So yeah, I'm completely satisified by Smash. I got what I wanted out of it....well, not everything, but I'm sure they're saving that for next year.

Peanut

11-03-2006, 11:25 AM

I didn't even bring up Wind Waker. I'm not comparing the game to anything. I just don't really like the direction they took.

But...that makes no sense! The direction they're going is the direction the Zelda series has gone in since day one! Wind Waker is the only installment that deviates from what Zelda has always been, so naturally I'm assuming that you don't like this "direction" because it has changed from Wind Waker, which is the only other direction the Zelda series has gone in. I'm not trying to rag on you or anything, I just really don't understand where you're coming from at all.

It could probably be cleared up if you actually specified instead of just beat around the bush on the question all the time. I want to know what you don't like about this new Zelda. It intrests me, because there are a few points I probably agree with.

I've got to disagree. First of all, I want it to play exactly the same. i said that from day one. I don't want the Wii-remote forced into this in any way, period. I don't want it at all. I wanted this to play exactly like Melee because it's going to be online. In the future, they can make us wave our arms around all they want, but not this time.

I never said anything about controls or Wii-mote use. I want this to play just like Melee as well, but I don't want it to just be the same game, with some new characters and an extra coat of paint. It looks like everyone from the previous games has all the exact same moves, animations, etc etc. It doesn't look like they added anything.

And where the hell do people keep getting the online part from? Didn't the director say specifically that it would be much too difficult to put it online, so they weren't focusing on it? I don't know where people keep pulling the online from.

Mecha Cow

11-03-2006, 11:29 AM

But...that makes no sense! The direction they're going is the direction the Zelda series has gone in since day one! Wind Waker is the only installment that deviates from what Zelda has always been, so naturally I'm assuming that you don't like this "direction" because it has changed from Wind Waker, which is the only ever direction the Zelda series has gone in. I'm not trying to rag on you or anything; I just really don't understand where you're coming from at all.
You are talking about graphics. I am talking about everything else. Look, I really don't want to argue about this again, because it's just going to end with the 'you're crazy' comments that I really don't appreciate.

*E* Sorry, didn't see your edit.

It could probably be cleared up if you actually specified instead of just beat around the bush on the question all the time. I want to know what you don't like about this new Zelda. It intrests me, because there are a few points I probably agree with.
The reason I don't specify is because I did it before and it just led to dumb arguments where both parties did not see eye to eye. But since you asked, the main thing I don't like is how the game is clearly tailored to please the 'fans' after the 'outcry' following WW. Pleasing your fans is fine, but they're seemingly going out of their way to make the game as 'dark' and 'mature' (Which I don't think belong in Zelda at all - No, this isn't like MM) and OoT-like as possible. I know there are still some light-hearted parts, but still. The game even got a T rating for blood, which I certainly hope is exaggerated. It's obviously a fan-game, there's really no denying that, and I feel alienated by it. I just haven't seen anything yet that really feels like 'Zelda' to me. I hope the final game can ease my worries, and that the series' charm and innocence hasn't been drowned out by angst and darkness.

It really has nothing to do with the graphical style (I love this one as well, for the record), please don't assume I'm that shallow. It's just that I care about a lot more than just gameplay. :)

愛

11-03-2006, 12:00 PM

Um, isn't it the job of the developer to please the fans? They're not going to totally revamp the whole series just to try and reel in some new people. Even so, they changed very little from the original games. Sure, it's darker, but you can't fully rehash the old stuff. That'd be...like GTA or something. That may be a bad analogy, but I believe you get what I mean.

And to be honest, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I think you just want a sequel to Wind Waker, and it's not going to happen. But that's just my opinion. I guess I need to stress that, so I don't seem like Zarius or something.

Peanut

11-03-2006, 12:01 PM

Makes sense, but I don't really see anything that proves the game has taken the Warrior Within path and gone from serious with some dark tones to over blow death, destruction, blood and guts. You know what I mean? We really haven't seen enough of the game to make a valid assumption either way.

It seems like Okami to me. Where each area is full of darkness, but after you perform certain feats you clean up the land and restore the light. If that's what TP is like, I'm all for it, cause that was an awesome part of Okami.

Mecha Cow

11-03-2006, 12:42 PM

And to be honest, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I think you just want a sequel to Wind Waker, and it's not going to happen.
Nah man, WW is my favorite game but I love the whole series, it's not like I hate everything that isn't cellshaded. I don't know what gave you got that impression, but it isn't like that at all. But I don't want (another) OoT sequel either. And I actually do feel like they're trying to revamp the whole series for a new audience, that's my problem with it. If you don't feel that way, then it's understandable you don't agree with me.

Most people seem to think WW is 'kiddie' and the rest of the series is much darker, but in terms of actual content it really isn't like that (Aside from the visuals). TP is actually the odd one out if you ask me (Not directed at anyone in particular, just want to clear up the whole WW/TP comparison).

And yeah, I don't mind darkness either, as long as there is enough contrast. That's what made MM so cool.

Peanut

11-03-2006, 02:58 PM

Most people seem to think WW is 'kiddie' and the rest of the series is much darker, but in terms of actual content it really isn't like that (Aside from the visuals). TP is actually the odd one out if you ask me (Not directed at anyone in particular, just want to clear up the whole WW/TP comparison).

That's what really pisses me off. When people say Wind Waker was kiddie because of the graphical style...God. I want to snap. Wind Waker is the most beautiful game I've ever seen and my favourite of all the Zelda's.

And yeah, I don't mind darkness either, as long as there is enough contrast. That's what made MM so cool.

I agree. I really can't stand full-blown darkness. I'd much rather have a nearly completely bright game like tWW.

ThirdMarioBro

11-03-2006, 05:50 PM

Most people seem to think WW is 'kiddie' and the rest of the series is much darker, but in terms of actual content it really isn't like that (Aside from the visuals). TP is actually the odd one out if you ask me.

So I assume that you mean you wish for Zelda to retain it's childlike innocence (I don't mean that in a bad "kiddy" way, but I don't know how else to put it). Sort of the, "start the game as a child, and grow into an adult over the course of the adventure" type of thing? Because in Twilight Princess, you seem to begin as an adult, then get cast into the heart of hell right out of the gate. If that's the case, I completely understand the perspective.

And yeah, Wind Waker was one of the most artistically beautiful games ever made.

Mecha Cow

11-03-2006, 06:05 PM

In a way, yes. Part of Link's character (As far as he has one) is that he's an innocent kid with a pure heart. He's a hero, not because he's some great warrior, but because he's a little kid who has the courage to fight evil. TP Link seems too much of a 'badass' (The way a lot of 'fans' want him to be), though this might just be played out in the trailers to build hype for the game.

But yeah, it's hard to get that maturing aspect when the character starts out as an adult (I know they say he's 16, but he's more of a man than a boy). It's not like in OoT either, where adult Link was only physically mature. Oh well, I hope that aspect isn't lost, we will see soon enough.

ThirdMarioBro

11-03-2006, 07:10 PM

It's been hard as hell for me to get hyped back up for the game, because when I flip the "hype switch" in my mind off, it's difficult to turn it back on. But I remember now, I did the exact thing during the 2/12 year wait for Ocarina. Look at how we all feel about that now.

In seven years or so, we're all going to feel quite silly looking back on this.

http://wii.advancedmn.com/images/media/zeldatp_60.jpg

http://wii.advancedmn.com/images/media/zeldatp_55.jpg

Hype Switch back on now. We got our impressions with it up. Talked with a couple of guys from IGN and EGM. Everybody loves it.

The moons realign, hell warms back up, and the world returns to normal. I'm happy.

Peanut

11-03-2006, 08:06 PM

But I remember now, I did the exact thing during the 2/12 year wait for Ocarina.
When you were like 11 or 12? Come on now, give us a break. By that point we hadn't had a Zelda in years, and we weren't all completely jaded assholes like we are now.

TP Link seems too much of a 'badass'

LOL! Yeah, right! Cause we all know how completely badass ranch hands are! Link isn't going to start off anymore badass in this game than he did in any others. The only difference is he isn't a little kid anymore, big deal. He milks cows or some sh*t. That doesn't scream "badass" to me.

(The way a lot of 'fans' want him to be)

That's a preeeetty huge assumption. And the quotations around fans? Didn't you start playing games with the N64? Are you really in the position to make such a bold statement about Zelda "fans".

ThirdMarioBro

11-03-2006, 08:52 PM

I'm an old-school, NES raised, jaded, hard nosed, arrogant, elietest, know-it-all, gangsta' mothafu*ka and I'm completely happy with the game. It's just this time Link doesn't get to go sailing his way to manhood. Now he gets to go nightstalking as a bloodthirsty wolf.

Basically the same thing, except darker. Zelda is Zelda.

Btw guys, look in the latest issue of Nintendo Power. There's updated screens on Yoshi's Island 2. They've revamped the art style, and it looks just like what you would expect of Yoshi's Island now. It feels just like the original. I think you can all let out your breath on that topic. It's going to kick ass like the artistic masterpiece we grew up on.

ThirdMarioBro

11-03-2006, 09:42 PM

After I spent 10 hours with the game, I barely managed to squeak by two temples, with the third so far off that I could scarcely imagine getting there, let alone approach the objective. (For the record, out of 30 or so journalists, nobody came close to the third temple.) I asked how long it took Nintendo's testers to complete the entire game the first time through. The answer is a whopping 70-plus hours. Adding insult to injury, diabolical Nintendo translator and localization manager Bill Trinen told me that he was working on his second play-through of the game. Knowing what to do and where to go, and skipping cut-scenes, Trinen said that he had logged about 27 hours to make it about two thirds of the way through the temples themselves - and that doesn't account for any of the side quests or time sinks like fishing, a single operation that could easily add hours upon hours to Zelda's depth. .

Sweet mother of God.

Control here is comfortable, and while some people might worry that you’ll have to swing your hands all over the place to play Twilight Princess, that didn’t seem to be the case during my experience with the title. Oppositely, a few hours into the game, I found myself relaxed in my chair, resting my elbow on the chair arm, lightly flicking my wrist in different directions to use Link’s sword. In other words, gamers worried about getting tired while playing the game needn’t worry: you can move around as much as you want while playing Zelda or as little as you want. It’s your decision.

See? The controls worked out.

Twilight Princess may have started as a GameCube title, but it finished a Wii one. There remains this faction of gamers that refuses to accept the possibility. You know who you are. You continue to argue that because the controls were originally designed for the GameCube pad there is no hope for the Wii build. You say that your arms will get tired using the Wii remote. You speak of mirrored worlds and right-handed Link. And you know what? It's all crap. If you buy Twilight Princess for GameCube and not Wii, you are a fool. And I state that without meaning to suggest that the GCN iteration is flawed - it isn't. It's an amazing swan song for Nintendo's older system. But neither is it as good as the Wii incarnation. In fact, were it up to me and not Nintendo (and in my dreams, it is), I'd have scrapped the GCN build altogether, forcing everyone to exclusively buy the Wii version. Honestly, Nintendo gave you five good years with GameCube; it doesn't owe you a damned thing.

And that's why I put the poor old GameCube back in the closet last month. It's dead. I'll miss her, and again, I won't. The time has officially changed. Farewell to thee or purple lunchbox, it has been fun. I now move on to Progressive Scan fields of green (whenever the cable comes in the mail...fu*k everything until then), and what I once again call the greatest game ever made, Twilight Princess. I remember saying that during E3-200-fu*king-4, but now I think it can stick in stone.

Peanut

11-03-2006, 11:03 PM

That's all well and good, but this...

Nintendo gave you five good years with GameCube; it doesn't owe you a damned thing.

made me ROFL for about ten minutes.

Finally, with real people actually spending normal amounts of time with this game, we're getting the impressions I've wanted to hear for so long. It's about damn time. The 19th can't come fast enough.

Barkworm

11-04-2006, 12:28 AM

Nintendo announced that you can't play GC games with the classic controller. I don't get it.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=148658

ThirdMarioBro

11-04-2006, 12:52 AM

Goddammit. Looks like I'm stuck with that damn jellybean button piece of sh*t. Ah well, doesn't matter I suppose. I'm used to it. Still hate it though. Anyways, you guys have fun on launch day. I'm waiting on my cables. It's not like I won't have a whole six months of little of nothing coming out to beat the game in....all 75+ hours of that sweet, sweet sucker.

ThirdMarioBro

11-04-2006, 02:26 AM

Turn on Animal Crossing the week of Wii and connect online to get a special gift from Nintendo.

Mecha Cow

11-04-2006, 03:12 AM

LOL! Yeah, right! Cause we all know how completely badass ranch hands are! Link isn't going to start off anymore badass in this game than he did in any others. The only difference is he isn't a little kid anymore, big deal. He milks cows or some sh*t. That doesn't scream "badass" to me.
I already said I was going by the impressions I was getting from the trailers. I don't know what the situation is in the final game.

That's a preeeetty huge assumption. And the quotations around fans? Didn't you start playing games with the N64? Are you really in the position to make such a bold statement about Zelda "fans".
You are grossly misinterpreting me. I am not trying to sound like some elitist prick. I'm saying that a lot of people who've never played Zelda before and only play stuff like GTA look at the series and go like 'Lolz 2 kidy, Link shuld be way coolerz'. These also happen to be the same people who dislike WW because of its graphics. I used quotation marks because these people do call themselves fans for some reason. I am not assuming anything, these people exist.

And I wasn't aware that there was some holy gamer ranking based on which system you started with, I guess I will never be cool now. :(

ThirdMarioBro

11-04-2006, 03:36 AM

Oh pbbt, ignore PJ. Two weeks ago he was condemning Nintendo to hell...now he's all orgasmic over Wii again.

Three Weeks Ago...
PJ cancels his preorder

One Week Ago....
I hate Nintendo. With every hands-on impression of the Wii I hear nothing but bad things. Why couldn't they just go full force with a normal, powerful console that could stand up to 360 and PS3, then release games on a regular basis? Why? I hate them.

Half a Week ago
Fu*k Nintendo. No Wii in 2006 for me

Now...

Finally, with real people actually spending normal amounts of time with this game, we're getting the impressions I've wanted to hear for so long. It's about damn time. The 19th can't come fast enough.

You hear the wind blowing? Nah, that's just Peanut's opinion again.

GOT 'EM!

Stimor

11-04-2006, 04:15 AM

i once gave a dime to this street performer and told him he owes me

Peanut

11-04-2006, 10:40 AM

You hear the wind blowing? Nah, that's just Peanut's opinion again.
GOT 'EM!

This coming from the guy who flops back and forth and every single opinion he has? Wether it be videogames or something else? The guy who condemned every single videogame company with the exception of Nintendo without even getting his own first hand impression of things?

I'm still skeptical on the Wii. I still don't think Nintendo has sh*t all in the pipe-line. I still don't think the Wiimote is going to work as well as everyone hopes. I'm not excited for the Wii. Don't mistake excitement for Zelda as excitement for the Wii. TP seems to be turning out fine, so I'll buy the Wii for that alone.

At the time of my pre-order cancel, reports were coming out about Zelda sucking sh*t on the Wii. Everywhere you went people were saying their hands-on time was awful. Why would I want to buy a console with sh*tty games on it? Even if I do have the money?

This has nothing to do with the Wii or my impressions of Nintendo over the last month. I still hold true to each and every one of those words. Zelda is just getting too much good word of mouth to ignore.

Once again, to summarize. Nintendo? Morons. Wii? Gimmicky. Zelda? Awesome. Simple as that. I'm still looking forward to the 360 going forward more than the Wii.

Anyways, you guys have fun on launch day. I'm waiting on my cables.
It's pretty much confirmed that there are going to be a bunch of 3rd party component cables available on launch day, probably of better quality too. Any more excuses for being poor?

ThirdMarioBro

11-04-2006, 12:49 PM

It's pretty much confirmed that there are going to be a bunch of 3rd party component cables available on launch day, probably of better quality too. Any more excuses for being poor?

Nope. I'm just not paying $60 for goddamn cables, which is the rumored price. If they're $30, then I'm game, otherwise, no. That's too much.

Barkworm

11-04-2006, 02:00 PM

The official Nintendo cables are 30 bucks here so I don't see why they would be anything more than $30 in the US.

ThirdMarioBro

11-04-2006, 04:11 PM

To squeeze the people camped out at launch who don't want to wait for the Nintendo cables to ship through the main system. Happens all the time.

Peanut

11-04-2006, 04:13 PM

Here you go, buddy.

Perrin says Wii component cables available all over the place! (http://kotaku.com/gaming/nintendo/wii-component-cables-online-only-pause-not-212458.php)

Yet more hope for us abused HD gamers.

ThirdMarioBro

11-04-2006, 04:40 PM

Okay, done deal. I'll have to make a 48 hour marathon without sleep to drive home in time to make launch, but dammit I'll do it if we get 480p on day one.

Hopefully my GameStop doesn't do a midnight launch. Then I can get a nap on the drive home.

Peanut

11-04-2006, 04:44 PM

Go to a Toys R Us or Best Buy. I don't think either of those are doing any kind of midnight things. They're just opening normally on the day of, or maybe an hour early.

ThirdMarioBro

11-04-2006, 06:45 PM

Gah, I'm so strapped for money. I don't know how I'm going to swing this. I may just take out a loan or something, because if they've got 480p, I'm there on day one.

Peanut

11-04-2006, 07:39 PM

There will be component cables at launch. Either 3rd party or Nintendo, it really doesn't matter.

From Kotaku again. They got ahold of a Best Buy book for Wii and PS3.

S video cables (Better)
React brand SKU 8009004, $17.99
This is the only Wii S/AV cable Best Buy will carry for launch.

Component video cables (Best)
React brand SKU 8008988, $24.99
Psyclone brand SKU 7985727, $59.99

Either way we're getting component cables on day one, so I'm happy as hell.

ThirdMarioBro

11-04-2006, 07:55 PM

Woah, I wonder what the huge difference in price on those two component cables stems from?

Bah, either way...win.

*edit*

I looked it up. The Psyclone brand cables are those heavily shielded gold tipped cables that are supposed to give a 12% boost in signal clarity. Don't know if 12% is worth almost $40, but it's something to consider.

PanMan

11-04-2006, 07:59 PM

Hey guys, I've been watching this thread for a while now and wanted to ask something. I don't have a Gamecube, but am planning on getting GC games so that I can play them on the Wii. What I'm trying to figure out now is if a 251 memory card will be enough, or if I have to buy the 1019 memory card.

Also, I've noticed that the third party memory cards are significantly cheaper than the official nintendo cards. I prefer to get the official nintendo ones, but the difference in price has me on the fence. So are the third party memory cards good quality, or should I just go with nintendo's memory card?

I've made a list of all the games that I want to buy, but I don't know how many blocks of memory some of them take. I was hoping you guys could fill in the blanks and/or confirm what I already have.

Batman Begins ..............................................6
Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu .................................2
Batman Vengeance
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone ....................9
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets .......5
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban .......4
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire ....................5
Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker ...................12
Legends of Wrestling II
Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers ....................4
Lord of the Rings: Return of the King ....................6
Lord of the Rings: The Third Age
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! .................................8
Metroid Prime ..............................................2
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time ....................15
Prince of Persia: Warrior Within .....................4
Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones ....................20
Spider-Man: The Movie ..................................2
Spider-Man 2
Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast ....................27
Super Mario Sunshine ..................................7
Super Paper Mario
Superman: Shadow of Apokolips ......................4
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Battle Nexus
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Nightmare........1
Ultimate Spider-Man ..................................15
X-Men Legends ...............................................26
X-Men Legends II
X-Men 3: The Official Game
X2: Wolverine’s Revenge ...................................4

TOTAL .................................................. ............188

Thanks in advance.

Peanut

11-04-2006, 08:01 PM

It's like the difference between buying a Sony made component cable for your PS2, or buying a Monster brand cable. The Sony PS2 component cable is $25 CDN, while the Monster cable is $55 CDN. The Sony cable is just regular old metal on the tips, you're going to lose signal through that. The Monster cables use better conductive metals, like gold. That's why I use Monster cable for my PS2, DVD player etc. The one exception is the 360 cable, it's well made and it was free, so...win.

So my guess; first cable is the regular old cable, second is the high-end one. If it comes down to it, I'll grab the regular cable, it's going to make no difference with a 480p output, anyways.

Edit: To the dude above. If you're worried, just buy the biggest one. You won't have a problem fitting all your saves on there. I have one of the small memory cards that launched with the system, and one of the 251 cards, and I've never run out of room with 25+ games saved between there and the old one, including an entire Animal Crossing town, which takes up a ton of space.

As for 3rd party memory cards, I got burned on one of those on both PSX and N64, so I never used them again. They become corrupted a lot and you lose your saves. I know a friend of mine has had a Mad Catz Cube card crap out on him, so just bite the bullet and go with the official Nintendo one.

ThirdMarioBro

11-04-2006, 08:01 PM

Screw it all and get an SD card instead. If I'm not mistaken, the Wii will let you save your GCN memory card data to the Wii's SD card, so you would have no need to a GameCube memory card at all. The size comparison is something like this.

GameCube Memory Card - 8MB
Wii SD Flash Card - 1GB (1000 MB)

Yeah, screw the memory card. Besides, those nasty things are battery based, which means they have a finite lifespan.

Peanut

11-04-2006, 08:08 PM

PanMan

11-04-2006, 08:10 PM

That's pretty good if true. I think I'll wait until it's confirmed that you can do that though. That'd definitely save me some money.

Peanut

11-04-2006, 08:12 PM

Hey, PanMan. Noticed you're from Canada. Do you have a Wii pre-order or are you going launch day to grab one? If so, where are you going? I'm torn between Futureshop or Toys R Us at the moment. I know for a fact what Toys R Us is doing, but I haven't found out what Futureshop is up to.

PanMan

11-04-2006, 08:19 PM

I don't have a pre-order since I figure there will be enough to go around. I'm actually thinking of going to the real canadian superstore since maybe less people would think to go there (since it's mostly a grocery store). If that doesn't work out, there's always FutureShop or even Walmart. Hopefully I won't have to resort to Zellers. I bet they'd have it more expensive than everywhere else.

And on that note, how much is it going to cost in CDN dollars? I'm hoping for a $279.99 price.

Peanut

11-04-2006, 08:23 PM

$279.95! Here, this is a pretty helpful little thing that was posted way back in the thread somewhere.

http://www.n-sider.com/newsview.php?type=story&storyid=2441

It's a Wii calculator for us Canucks. Pretty cool for checking out how much you'll have to shell out for the Wii and whatever else you want come launch day.

Anyways, apparently the shipments are down a little more than was expected here. I was talking to a dude at Toys R Us who said they're getting a little less than they hoped for. They took 40 pre-orders, all of which were snatched up. He said hopefully they'll be getting a couple more in for launch, but he didn't know yet. All stores will get their launch numbers late next week, so we should know where our best chances are by then.

And yeah. The Great Canadian Superstore is a great idea. If it comes down to it, that might be a good backup.

PanMan

11-04-2006, 09:17 PM

I saw that before but wasn't sure if it was official or not. Is this official then or is it just somebody's assumptions?

ThirdMarioBro

11-04-2006, 09:35 PM

Are they allowing Cube saves to the SD cards? I guess that makes more sense. I'm still torn on what size SD card to get with the Wii. The 1 gig card is pretty pricey. I'd much rather spend that money on games and stuff. Hands up for whoever is buying a Wii-mote glove!

*raises hand* I'm getting a dog tag too.

You see, our consoles are getting old, and we want dependable copies of our games. So, I assume you are, like me, going to go bezerk on the Virtual Console. Do you want to get a 512MB card now and wind up upgrading it in seven months or so, or do you want a 1GB to last you a long time? Remember, some Wii games with sh*tty soundtracks will support custom soundtracks (such as Excitetruck), so you'll be using the card for more than just VC stuff and game save data.

That's why I got a 2GB Lexar card.

Peanut

11-04-2006, 10:31 PM

I saw that before but wasn't sure if it was official or not. Is this official then or is it just somebody's assumptions?
Nope. Official pricing. I know a ton of people who work at EB Games and the like. I've talked to them about it before.

You see, our consoles are getting old, and we want dependable copies of our games. So, I assume you are, like me, going to go bezerk on the Virtual Console. Do you want to get a 512MB card now and wind up upgrading it in seven months or so, or do you want a 1GB to last you a long time? Remember, some Wii games with sh*tty soundtracks will support custom soundtracks (such as Excitetruck), so you'll be using the card for more than just VC stuff and game save data.
I don't know if berserk is the word I'd use on the VC. As it stands, with the games that're on the lists we've seen, I'll only end up buying 3 to 4 MAX. Plus, I won't be using the SD card for anything other than VC games and game saves. I have no intrest in custom soundtracks or anything of that sort. I've had that feature for 5 years now, and I've used it a total of maybe once.

ThirdMarioBro

11-04-2006, 11:03 PM

http://wii.advancedmn.com/images/media/zeldatp_59.jpg

http://wii.advancedmn.com/images/media/zeldatp_58.jpg

Somehow, seeing a battle take place is a location as serene and quiet as a snow covered field with nothing nearby makes it all the more dramatic to me.

PanMan

11-04-2006, 11:17 PM

That's cool about the pricing. I was afraid they would jack it up to $299.99. I just don't like the price of the controller. It comes to almost $81 with tax! I'm probably only getting one extra one, and it probably won't be on launch day. I think I'm just going to get Zelda on launch day aside from the console, and I'll get a second controller and Marvel Ultimate Alliance at a later date.

Only 2 weeks away :)

Peanut

11-06-2006, 01:29 AM

I'm still slightly torn on where my launch day money is going. Aside from the console itself and everything I'll need to get it going, (SD Card, Component Cables, Wii Points) I don't know where the rest of my money is going in terms of games or other accessories. After Zelda I'm leaning on Trauma Center, because it was a huge hit in my house, with my girlfriend and sister constantly swapping the game back and forth and trying to one up each other. Beyond that...I don't know. I want another controller, but at that price...kinda hard to justify right now.

Barkworm

11-06-2006, 01:34 AM

I found out that I won't have as much money for launch as I hoped to so I'm just getting the console, a cable and Zelda. Here's a newb question: What's the difference between RGB cables and component cables? Which one has better quality? I'm asking cause both are the same price.

Peanut

11-06-2006, 01:46 AM

Aren't they the same thing? RGB is just another form of analog component video isn't it?

ThirdMarioBro

11-06-2006, 02:45 AM

RGB......Red Green Blue

An RGB cable is just another name for a component cable. That's all.

Peanut

11-06-2006, 03:12 AM

RGB......Red Green Blue

Thanks, Professor!

Barkworm

11-06-2006, 03:54 AM

Ah okay, thank you. It's weird that amazon lists them seperately.

The Clerk

11-06-2006, 04:37 PM

http://onemorelevel.com/games.php?game=34

I love this game.

ThirdMarioBro

11-07-2006, 02:28 AM

Well, today is my birthday. Birthdays depress me to no end. Another year older, another year with no girl in my life another year closer to becoming an old man with prostate cancer, clogged arteries, and altimerz....yeah, I have a fear of age and dying bodies. Screw it. I decided to sit down and take a trip back in time to when I was five years old, and in Kindergarten. I broke my diet and poured myself a bowl of Captain Crunch since I ate that a lot when I was five.. God that stuff tastes like charcoaled sh*t chunks. Anyway, I decided to spend a night with my unopened copy of "The Wizard" and try to remember why I loved gaming when I was so little.

Seriously, I know the whole movie is a giant Nintendo commercial. I know it's just subliminal advertising at it's most blatantly obvious, but dammit I don't care. I really don't. It makes me go back in time. It reminds me of being in school in 1989 and how that was the most fu*king awesome thing in the world, to dream of going to California to enter some "Super Collassal, Video Armageddon" tournament for $50,000. Back when on the playground we used to pretend we were "The N Team", if anybody still knows what that was. The time I sneaked my Zapper into class and got suspended. The time when Game Boy's were a dime a dozen on the playground. The times when we sat at the lunch table and all talked about ways to get out of minus world, or find the magic whistles in Super Mario Brothers 3. Anybody remember the Konami code? Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Select, Start. Yeah, I'm hardcore like that.

I remember the days when every kid in class had a big crush on Jenny and Princess Lana. We "hated girls", but not those two. They could sharpen out pencils anytime. I remember when a new kid came in talking about Altered Beast on his brand new Sega Genesis what'chamacallit. We rocked the bastard. Sega? FU*K THAT ****! Jesus, what you doin' bring that sh*t in here. We're trying to beat Tetris fool, and you spring that Sega sh*t? Assholes. :lol: I remember me trying to teach my best friend Jennifer to play Super Mario Land on my Game Boy two days before she got killed. I've still got that beat up old thing sitting by my desk to this day because it reminds me of her. Every now and then I boot it up and kick Tatanga's ass in memory.

I miss the innocence. I fu*king miss the innocence. I miss when we all sat around talking about how awesome it was last week on the Super Show when Super Mario got the fire flower and saved the world's last remaining Spaghetti Sauce from Kount Koopula. I miss the fun of looking at cheaply printed, and impossible to read maps in Nintendo Power, trying to beat Mega Man 4 and Battletoads. I miss....okay, I don't miss those goddamn RF switches we all had hanging behind out TV's. But I do miss the whole family sitting down together to play Nintendo. I miss when my mom and dad would sit down and try to beat my high score at Tetris, then I'd knick them off their toadstools ten minutes later.

Those were the happy times to me. Back when I didn't give a damn about reviews and advertising. Back when I didn't give a fu*k about Sony, innovation, business, or anything else of the sort. Back when games were fun. Back when I played "Totally Rad" (look it up) because the colors were pretty. I miss that. I cherish it.

I'm a jaded old bastard, but when I popped in that movie I got a bit teary eyed because it brought that feeling of innocence back for the first time in far too long. It reminded me why I began playing video games, and it reminded me of why I still love Nintendo. Nintendo was my childhood, and it will probably always be an important part of my life. I thought I would share that with you all here twelve days from the launch of Wii.