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ThirdMarioBro

01-15-2005, 01:31 AM

Iwata: Revolution will bring a "paradigm shift" to gaming

Nintendo president confirms his company's next-gen console will be unveiled at E3, says it will lure retired gamers and nongamers to the market.
TOKYO--In a full-page interview in Thursday's Kyoto Journal, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata commented on the current state of the company's next-generation game console--being developed under the working title "Revolution."

Iwata said the Revolution will cause a "paradigm shift" in video gaming, and reconfirmed that details on the machine will be unveiled at the upcoming E3 in May. He added that the machine will most likely come out somewhere between 2005 and 2006, when Sony and Microsoft are expected to release their next-generation consoles. Currently very little is known about the Revolution except that it may not use a conventional controller and may be able to connect to a PC monitor as well as the traditional TV screen.

"The keyword for the DS was 'innovative product,' but it will be 'paradigm shift in [game] play' with the Revolution," Iwata said in his interview with Kyoto's popular local newspaper.

"The concept behind our new console, tentatively named 'Revolution,' is the same as the DS. We want it to broaden the [video gaming] audience range, and we don't want it to be something that people will see as too irrelevant to them, too difficult to use, or as something that wastes space. We'll announce specific details at the E3 ... It will most likely come out between this year [and] next year, which is considered to be the transition period for home consoles," Iwata said.

Iwata said the DS and PSP aren't directly competing, because Nintendo is aiming for nongamers and retired gamers with its handheld, while Sony is targeting the traditional gaming audience. He added that his company will also attempt to avoid competing in the next-gen console market.

"Similar to the relationship that the DS has with the PSP, we won't fight over the same share of the pie with another company. We have no intention of fighting over shares of the market in a way that will shrink it. For us, success will depend on whether we can call back people that have stopped playing games, and whether we can also bring in a new base of customers. That way, our share [of the market] will increase since the market will grow bigger," Iwata said.

Iwata also took time to comment on the success of the DS. "We shipped 2.8 million units in Japan and America by the end of last year, and most had reached the hands of our customers by early after New Year's. Its sales are very good when compared to the launch of other game machines we've sold in the past. We feel that the DS has gained a wide range of audience. Aside from video game fans, people that haven't played games in a long time, or never played games before, have been picking up the DS," Iwata said. "According to research, the sales of game hardware for one month, starting in late November, increased by 75 percent compared to the past year, and game software sales also rose by about 10 percent. I believe that the DS is hindering people from losing interest in video games."

When asked by the Kyoto Journal what he thought of the PSP, Iwata stated relatively bluntly that Sony is going in a direction that Nintendo doesn't believe in, though he softened that by saying he welcomes Sony's entrance into the market--since it should expand the total gaming audience.

"In the past, the video game industry grew on high-quality graphics and data volume," Iwata said. "We decided to move into a different direction, since we believe that those days have ended. But by watching the PSP, we see that there are also people that have different thoughts from us. But it's up to the consumers to make the judgment, and it'll also be good if we can expand the market size by bringing out our best points."

Iwata also commented briefly on Nintendo's entrance into the movie market, hinting that although the company is strongly considering the move, it isn't completely sure if it will be going into the business just yet.

"We're strongly considering the matter. I've been in contact with the script writers, directors, and the production companies. We're looking into the potentials between movies and video games. But if we decide to really go into the movie business, it will be around summer of 2006 at the earliest."

By Hirohiko Niizumi -- GameSpot
POSTED: 01/14/05 05:14 PM PST
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Same sh*t. Gemme new news dammit. Oh wait....what is this...
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RUMOR #4: Sega is readying another Sonic game for the GameCube.

Source: Blue hedgehog enthusiasts Sonichq.org.

The official story: Sega did not respond to solicitations to comment.

What we heard: In an incredibly brief article, Sonichq.org cites an interview with Sonic Heroes creator Yuji Naka in Official UK Nintendo Magazine. In the interview, Naka reportedly says he is working on a new Sonic title for the GameCube, which he hopes to finish within the year. And although the interview itself can't be read online, it is almost certainly true, since Sega has released a Sonic game for the GameCube every year since 2002.

Bogus or not bogus?: Not bogus.

By Tor Thorsen -- GameSpot
POSTED: 01/14/05 05:26 PM PST

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If it's Sonic Heroes 2, then to hell with them. If it's Sonic Adventure 3, with all the things they've learned from past mistakes, then I'll have an orgasm.

Spitfire

01-15-2005, 01:32 AM

That is the greatest idea ever! I would buy a DS just for that :)

Peanut

01-15-2005, 01:38 AM

That's the one thing that would probably make me play DS online very little. Finding a hot spot. I don't think I'd put up the effor to find one.

01-15-2005, 01:42 AM

Me either. I think the closest Wi-Fi hot spot I have is Philly. What, I have to spend damn near $5 for the train ride or $3 for the bridge just to play DS online? No thanks. I'll play by myself...and maybe with myself.

ThirdMarioBro

01-15-2005, 01:43 AM

You both have cable. Get a cheap wireless router.

Spitfire

01-15-2005, 01:44 AM

Hot spots are just wireless internet right?
Theres like 50 Starbucks by my house*litterly* that have wireless internet so I think I could manage. And my friends neighbor has wireless internet so he gets free high speed internet when he uses his labtop in the living room hahaha

01-15-2005, 01:44 AM

The cheapest wireless router is...almost $150. Maybe less, because I haven't looked in a while. I'm not paying practically another DS for online play.

Barkworm

01-15-2005, 01:46 AM

Am I the only person in the world who doesn't give a f*ck about online gaming?

Spitfire

01-15-2005, 01:47 AM

This ones pretty cheap
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=603556/search=wireless%20router

No I dont like it either because most people online either suck really bad or are jerks.....but sometimes its fun

ThirdMarioBro

01-15-2005, 01:47 AM

Looks like I'm going to be pretty fu*king lonely on the Wi-Fi net. *sigh* :cry:

Kid Icarus

01-15-2005, 01:51 AM

SF- That game would make a few bazillion people buy a DS, easily. PSP woulden't know what ran over it.

Ai - You sure about that? a lot of coffee shops have wifi. check out here (http://www.wi-fihotspotlist.com/).

Barkworm - I really don't care much. But there are two games that SCREAM to be put online: Pokemon, and Animal Crossing. Both of those are going to be on the DS, and hopefuly they'll be online. We'll know more at E3 ;).

01-15-2005, 01:55 AM

Clarksboro, NJ? Oh, hell no. That's almost a 45 minute drive, if the map is accurate enough.

Kid Icarus

01-15-2005, 01:58 AM

Damn, that's some crazy sh... stuff.

I dunno what to tell ya. I know the DS'll have some crazy leap-frog stuff too (we tested this out with it's built in wireless link. A is here, B is as far away from A as they can be, and C is as far away from B as they can be, A and C can still send and receive data).

ThirdMarioBro

01-15-2005, 02:05 AM

Each DS acting like a wireless hub huh? I figured as much.

Peanut

01-15-2005, 05:29 AM

The cheapest wireless router is...almost $150. Maybe less, because I haven't looked in a while. I'm not paying practically another DS for online play.

True that, and there's not chance in hell I'm going to sit around in some cafe looking like a tool to play online games. No matter what they are.

And no Barkworm, you aren't the only one who doesn't care about online gaming. I couldn't care less actually. I enjoy single player games a lot more than multi-player ones.

ThirdMarioBro

01-15-2005, 06:53 AM

Then why do you play Halo 2?

I'm playing Mario Kart when that sucker goes online. Either that, or live in an online fanboy community in Animal Crossing.

Something like that...

not chance in hell I'm going to sit around in some cafe looking like a tool to play online games. No matter what they are

You do realize that it's that exact mentality which is the reason I can't get teenagers to play Donkey Konga at the mall.

It gets awfully lonely when you have to be the lone standout/reject in a store.

Peanut

01-15-2005, 08:22 AM

I said I enjoy single player experiences more than multiplayer experiences. That doesn't mean I don't like multiplayer games.

As for any type of mentality, I wasn't saying people who go to a cafe to play games are tools or anything. What I meant was I'm not going to go out of my way to play some sub-par online games, when I could sit at home and and play some good ones.

ThirdMarioBro

01-15-2005, 07:28 PM

I honestly don't see how a Pokemon MMORPG could be an inferior game. It'd own the internet. Guess I'm just the only one who wants Mario Kart and Tetris Attack Ladder Tournaments. *shrugs*

Kid Icarus

01-15-2005, 07:51 PM

Well, I'm usually against the idea of online gaming. It's too expensive for developers to run servers for years and years with out charging for it.

However, if it's free, or very VERY low cost, and the game was designed to work around online play, I'll be all over it.

That's why I said I'm looking forward to Animal Crossing DS and Pokemon D/P. I know the former's going to go online. That's a given. But Pokemon's basicly an MMORPG, just not online. It'd be easy for them to adjust the game to be online too. Instead of NPC trainers, you battle other gamers. Legendary pokemon could be uber hard to catch too, instead of 1 to every game pack. And having an actual Pokemon Leauge in the game would make sense. Once a year, or once every couple months, there's the Pokemon Leauge championships. Only players who've collected 8 or more badges can participate, and the badges you've collected are registered on your My Nintendo account (so people can't just gameshark the 8 badges). Then, it's a single elimination tournament until the best player in the world's left standing. They could even run a similar setup to mirror the Pokemon TCG (3 age groups, 10 and under, 11-14, and 15+) to make it fairer to younger kids.

ThirdMarioBro

01-15-2005, 08:02 PM

Kid Icarus

01-15-2005, 08:06 PM

They could also use the bottom screen for chatting, or include a mode where you can play with your Pokemon (like Puppy Times/Nintendogs). It could be used as a new way to evolve, or to get your Pokemon to learn new moves.

Gamefreaks is saying this version's going to be the new standard for Pokemon RPGs, and we haven't gotten that out of them since Gold/Silver.

Peanut

01-15-2005, 08:49 PM

As amazing as a Pokemon MMORPG sounds, I don't see me driving 20 minutes, or walking 40 minutes, to play an online game in a cafe. It's just not happening. Ever.

ThirdMarioBro

01-15-2005, 08:55 PM

Well, as I see it, there's two options.

1. Buy an Xbox ($149.95 + $49.95 - 199.90) to play the only online game they have that I'd want to play until the network dies upon the release of Xbox 2....

2. Go to Sam's, and get an $79.95 router + $29.95 for the game. ($109.90) and go beserk, plus know they'll be a steady supply of online titles I'll want to play (Smash Bros = drool).

I think the choice is clear here.

Not counting the cost of cable here since it's required either way.

Peanut

01-15-2005, 09:06 PM

No one said you had to do either one or the other. The fact is I'm already set up to play online games on XBL, and the choice of online titles to play is far more interesting than the DS has now, even if they release a Pokemon MMORPG, and you still don't know if they even will. Multiplayer Mario Kart can only be fun so many times. Every race it'll basically end up being the same thing. All racing games are like that, and Mario Kart doesn't have a deep customization mode, such as games like NFSU, to keep it interesting for a long period of time. Smash Bros will probably be a huge online title, once again, if it even ends up online. Even if it does go online, doesn't it bother you that the touch screen control will probably make the game frustrating to play at times? Hell SM64 got frustrating because of the wonky control. I couldn't imagine SSB, which requires pinpoint control the majority of the time. Either way it doesn't bother me, infact I don't care if the DS never goes online. I bought it for the single player experience anyways.

ThirdMarioBro

01-15-2005, 09:13 PM

Well, SM64 was frustrating at first until I figured out the secret. Use the D-pad for running, and the touch screen for flying/swimming. Then it was a dream. Smash Bros will probobly be given the same control option, and frankly I've always perferred D-Pads to Analog sticks, so conforming to that shouldn't be a problem.

Dosen't matter anyway. I don't have cable so this is all trival anyway.

Kid Icarus

01-15-2005, 10:27 PM

M64DS was frustrating... until i got over it. Really, I don' get what people are bitching about. it's just like learning how to use the analog stick.

And you know what? I've played through the entire game so far using nothing but the touchscreen. Have I died? Yep. But it was very VERY rarely because of the 'wonky control', it was because I over shot my jumps and fell of the level, or a boss beat me.

If anything, now that I'm used to using the touch screen, the analog stick feels werid.

</end rant>

ThirdMarioBro

01-15-2005, 11:58 PM

Kid Icarus

01-16-2005, 12:09 AM

Really, the point of Mario 64 on the N64 was a training game of sort, to teach people to use the analog stick. I view it on the DS in the same light. It's release is there to teach us how to use the touchscreen for movement.

My only gripe with the touchscreen control? The circle moves. Make it stay put next time Ninty, and it'll be so much better.

Peanut

01-16-2005, 05:39 AM

Kid Icarus

01-16-2005, 12:01 PM

See, I really haven't had any problems with it. There were some at the begining, but they're gone now. Just today I was zipping around the first bowser level collecting the 8 red coins with NO problem. Like i said, i think it'd be a lot better if the little circle stayed in one place instead of sliding with your thumb.

ThirdMarioBro

01-16-2005, 01:51 PM

It's not like learning to use the analog stick at all, because the analog stick is a solid form of control. The touch screen isn't. That's obvious when just about every review site/magazine has mentioned it. I've also mastered using the touch screen, it isn't exactly hard to do that, but there are still moments when it seems like the character is completely out of my control. You'll also have to admit that with the touch screen, some actions are a lot more difficult than they should be. Don't take it as bitching, because I'm not bitching, it's still great. There are problems with it. Just because it's a Nintendo product doesn't mean you have to ignore those problems.

Well, imagine trying to control it with one of those broken up 4 button Sony D-Pads. I'd probobly shoot myself trying to use one of those damn things. THey made it like that so Nintendo wouldn't sue them, and now people are stuck with it. I'll take a touch screen over that anyday.

Also, if the DS had a stick, it'd probobly last about 1.5 years since those sticks wear out under heavy usage. I'm willing to undergo a learning period to avoid the system wearing out quickly. PSP's will start falling like flies after a year.

Barkworm

01-16-2005, 02:25 PM

Well, imagine trying to control it with one of those broken up 4 button Sony D-Pads. I'd probobly shoot myself trying to use one of those damn things.
Aren't those the same D-pads as the PS2 controller have? You know, they're a ton better than the Gamecube's D-Pad.

ThirdMarioBro

01-16-2005, 04:00 PM

I have a habbit of letting my thumb rest on the pad when I'm not pressing it. You can't do that half as well on the PS2's bad, because it's not a pad. It's a group of buttons laid out in a D-Pad shape. It's really distracting when trying to play a side scroller or puzzle game as you can't just slide your finger in any direction. The Cube's D-Pad is a bitch though.

I like the DS's D-Pad because it's a blown up version of the SP's. And the SP's D-Pad was like the best pad ever. That's what the Gamecube's should have been like. Still, you couldn't play anything as fast and frantic as Tetris Attack on a PS2's controller because you'd keep loosing track of where your thumb was supposed to be. It's a bitch of the Gamecube, but at least it's bareable. I miss the N64 D-Pad. Now that was a piece of equipment.

jeff the cheff

01-16-2005, 05:25 PM

:cry: Feel The Magic is pissing me off. I can't get past this nightmare level. And I hate that whenever I die, I have to start all over again and play bull, which is really easy but it takes like...forever. :cry:

ThirdMarioBro

01-16-2005, 05:32 PM

It was the same here. You just have to do it over and over. THere's no way around it. If it helps, the last two past it are easy as dirt.

Peanut

01-16-2005, 07:18 PM

Aren't those the same D-pads as the PS2 controller have? You know, they're a ton better than the Gamecube's D-Pad.

True, but how many games do you use the D-Pad for? I've never used it for anything other than...looking at a map or something.

ThirdMarioBro

01-16-2005, 07:48 PM

Puzzle games would die without the D-Pad, but then again, there havent been may since 1998, and PS2 has few to none. DS is looking to change this.

I actually read somewhere that Sony banned Tetris from the PSP because they don;t want it to look like an underpowered Game Boy. Smart Sony. Ban the game that started thr whole fricking handheld industry. Smart way to bring in older games.

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*edit*

Here are some overall sales numbers this generation. Take a look.

Super Smash Bros. Melee: 2,662,240
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!: 1,817,460
Super Mario Sunshine: 1,804,207
The Wind Waker: 1,750,154
Luigi's Mansion: 1,591,468
Metroid Prime: 1,264,193
Mario Party 4: 962,264
Animal Crossing: 893,126
Mario Party 5: 807,331
Star Fox Adventures: 797,818
Pokemon Colosseum: 738,117
Pikmin: 669,300
Paper Mario The Thousand-Year Door: 548,023
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour: 529,655
Mario Party 6: 469,014
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes: 462,424
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: 411,433
Kirby Air Ride: 393,683
Wave Race: 329,949
Four Swords Adventures: 313,733
Mario Power Tennis: 296,893
Donkey Konga: 294,379
F-Zero GX: 281,938
Eternal Darkness: 280,927
Pikmin 2: 247,258
Wario World: 239,011
Preview Disk: 171,780
Pokemon Channel: 166,966
NBA Courtside 2002: 159,402
Custom Robo: 158,577
Magical Mirror: 121,169
1080 Avalanche: 114,731
Wario Ware Inc: 109,329

Mega Man Anniversary (GC): 199,865
Mega Man Anniversary (PS2): 192,269

Mega Man X Command Mission (GC): 48,019
Mega Man X Command Mission (PS2): 35,314

Viewtiful Joe (GC): 291,494
Viewtiful Joe (PS2): 66,478
Viewtiful Joe 2 (GC): 61,805
Viewtiful Joe 2 (PS2): 18,427

Resident Evil Zero: 433,015
Resident Evil: 480,526
Resident Evil 2: 35,828
Resident Evil 3: 48,726
Resident Evil Code Veronica X: 33,721

La Pucelle: Tactics: 58,373 (Missing December 2K4)

Star Wars Rogue Squadron II Rogue Leader: 873,767
Star Wars Rogue Squadron III Rebel Strike: 472,974

Soul Calibur (GC): 766,621
Soul Calibur (PS2): 708,965
Soul Calibur (Xbox): 509,506

Tales of Symphonia: 279,697

Baten Kaitos: 59,951

TimeSplitters 2:

PS2 270,256
GCN 247,870
XBX 221,535

Those are some good numbers. Capcom should've known better than to think the PS2 version of the two Joe's could outsell GCN's. The audience isn't there. GTA sells more there, but not Joe, or Mega Man. The ports are sucking (rightfully), but the "new" Resident Evil's are doing wery well. I know a lot of other numbers on other consoles can be much higher at times, but Nintendo is doing quite well profit wise. Sega was like at 1/8 of this when they pulled out, and this isn;t counting handhelds (which are FAR higher numbers). Nintendo's fine, and this year will kill these numbers.

Barkworm

01-16-2005, 11:49 PM

True, but how many games do you use the D-Pad for? I've never used it for anything other than...looking at a map or something.
That's true but I still haven't bought the "Resident Evil" remake because of that pad. I really love the GC controller but the D-pad is crappy.
It's good to see that the GC versions of "Viewtiful Joe" are outselling the PS2 versions. Unfortunately that game is a total flop around here, together with "Eternal Darkness" probably the worst selling "good" game this generation.

ThirdMarioBro

01-17-2005, 12:02 AM

Sh*t. Eternal Darkness is a masterpiece. I wish more people realized it.

Kid Icarus

01-17-2005, 02:41 AM

I love that game... it's about time for me to spend another whole day seeing how many chapters i can get though again.

I might even try being stupid, and choosing the Blue artifact at the begining... The games just too easy when you can heal yourself (sanity and health) with a few quick spells. Then again, I still can't beat the boss in the World War story >_>.

Barkworm

01-17-2005, 03:38 AM

Damn, I just started playing it and I chose the blue artifact. I had no clue what it does.
BTW, are you saying that you didn't beat the game? Is it that hard?

Kid Icarus

01-17-2005, 11:07 PM

XD

You're gonna have a hard time. First time through the game? My advice, restart and choose the green artifact. That makes the monsters aligned to green (Yuloth? I can't remember the gods' names), so they'll sap your sanity instead of life (red artifact) or magic (blue artifact).

Essintaly, they put the difficulty selection into the game. Green's easy, Red's normal, and Blue's hard.

And parts of it are difficult. The part I'm stuck at, I'm only stuck because I can't figure out how to damage the monster.

Barkworm

01-18-2005, 12:11 AM

I'll just try it with the blue one till I get stuck. Since I want to see the full ending I have to beat it with all artifacts anyway.

ThirdMarioBro

01-18-2005, 12:57 AM

Does anyone recomend any good flash movies? I need a laugh right about now.

Barkworm

01-18-2005, 01:44 AM

Why is that?

ThirdMarioBro

01-18-2005, 01:49 AM

Oh, just life in general. We're trying to buy a house, and the relators are giving us hell. EA just bought the ESPN licence from Sega (for 15 years), thus killing their sports line for good, the drive in my DVD player just kicked (and the PC dosen't look too far behind it), and I gotta go take a driving test, and then the SAT test soon. Just stressed out and stuff.

Barkworm

01-18-2005, 01:53 AM

Have you already watched all episodes of "Samurai Champloo"? There are some terribly funny ones that should cheer you up a little.

ThirdMarioBro

01-18-2005, 02:18 AM

Nope. It came out on DVD over here and the fansubs all went down. Found that out last night. :(

Peanut

01-18-2005, 07:16 PM

In more videogame news, EA is trying to pitch a reality tv show based on 'The Sims'. They want to get into everything it seems.

Spitfire

01-18-2005, 08:32 PM

In more videogame news, EA is trying to pitch a reality tv show based on 'The Sims'. They want to get into everything it seems.
That would be better then the crap they have on now for reality TV. Its all a bunch of stuck up white people or celebs yelling at each other. Or they have shows where you watch a half hour of people singing in their cars......TV is for morons now I guess

ThirdMarioBro

01-18-2005, 10:08 PM

In more videogame news, EA is trying to pitch a reality tv show based on 'The Sims'. They want to get into everything it seems.

Goddammit this is getting old. Now I REALLY hate them. They're trying to turn into another one of those bastard media outlets that wants to merge gaming with the media (TV, movies, ect). This is fu*king crazy. Hopefully it'll wind up on UPN and bomb faster than a drunk terrorist on a binge.

Spitfire

01-18-2005, 10:35 PM

Hey on a lighter note the more reality shows that bomb the better chance there is of them finially falling out of popularity

Machias Banshee

01-18-2005, 10:39 PM

It could be worse. Broadway's interested in doing a musical of "The Apprentice".

Hopefully Reality shows Will fallout as the top shows. Tho I have to wonder how you guys would react to a regular TV show of your games, Like "Halo: the Series" or something... but I"m getting off-topic here.

Kid Icarus

01-18-2005, 10:49 PM

Super Mario Super Show, the Sonic cartoons, Kirby: Right Back at Ya!, Pokemon..... been done :).

And none of those were done very well, sadly.

Mecha Cow

01-19-2005, 12:04 AM

The SMB Super Show may not have been the greatest show on Earth, but it's still a classic.

On another note, I saw a DS and a PSP in my Games shop yesterday (I'd never seen either one before other than on pictures). The DS looks great, even better than I imagined it. I'm not gonna lie, the PSP is also damn good looking. The buttons seem way too small however (The thing is about the size of a slightly wider GBA, and the huge screen takes up most of the front)...

ThirdMarioBro

01-19-2005, 01:24 AM

Either way, it's nice to know Game Boy is still killing both in sales. It kind of adds a slight degree of security to all of this. It'll be a close margin, but DS should win. PSP does look nice from a design standpoint (even if it is a black GBA), but I just see it's design from a techinal standpoint. I see teens dropping it and watching their $200 shatter into several pieces. Clamshell should be standard for all electronics. It's sweet looking and durable as hell. The old GBA was breakable too, but it had less inside to shatter, and was built without moving parts. Bah, this has been analysied to death anyway...

Wait wait, wait...Mecha, are oyu saying that Gamestop has PSP demo units already out? Damn. The Sony hype train is in motion. Next up is the mindless legions of cult worshipers of popular culture moonwalking into stores to reserve their "hip, totally in new portable system" so all their crew can see them play GTA. How cool is THAT?!?!? :roll:

Kid Icarus

01-19-2005, 01:42 AM

If the battery lasts past the loading screen!

*cymbol crash*

Oooh, burn!

To make this post somewhat decent, I haven't seen any demo units. Guess I'll find out Thursday when I go to pick up my copy of Resident Evil 4.

Oh, and the giant poster advertising RE4 in the Gamestop here has the "only for" thingy on it... I'm betting Capcom can't even advertise the PS2 version until the contract ends, which would be amazing.

ThirdMarioBro

01-19-2005, 01:47 AM

I want the game NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Capcom did this to themselves. They deserve whatever they get.

Kid Icarus

01-19-2005, 01:51 AM

Well, what they're gonna get is great sales on the Gamecube, and so so sales on the PS2.

The one thing developers have learned, I hope, is that bringing a game to another console olmost a full year after its release is a very bad idea.

I have a strong feeling Capcom's going to lose money on the PS2 port.

I'm hoping RE4 manages to push at least 100,000 new cubes.

Mecha Cow

01-19-2005, 06:38 AM

Wait wait, wait...Mecha, are oyu saying that Gamestop has PSP demo units already out?

No no...I'm Dutch, we don't even have Gamestops here in the Netherlands...I was saying that my local Games store had an imported DS (It's not out here yet) and an imported PSP on display.

Spitfire

01-19-2005, 08:10 AM

Peanut

01-19-2005, 08:52 AM

Multiplayer games? Dude...it's all about Mario Party. I haven't played MP6 yet, but 4 was awesome. 5 was so so, it had some good games, but I thought MP4 has the best mini-games. Mario Tennis is also an awesome game, and Mario Kart is a no brainer.

ThirdMarioBro

01-19-2005, 12:31 PM

Hey since this is the Nintendo thread and all I think I should ask this question here
Im intrested in buying some party games for my Cube Im wondering what ones to get
So far I have
Smash Brothers
Freedom Fighters
Godzilla
Bloody Roar*kinda*

I would like more multiplayer ones. I know theres tons of Mario sports games I was wondering what ones are worth getting and such.
Theres Double Dash and the Tenis game that looks kinda fun. I saw a article for Mario Baseball which looked fun

Any suggestions?

Mario Party 6
Mario Kart Double Dash
F-Zero GX
Mario Tennis
Kirby's Air Ride
Soul Caliber II
Donkey Konga

You already have Smash Bros, and that's the ultimate party game.

I never rreally thought of Mario Kart as a sports game. It's kinda it's own catagory, but whatever. Go with that first. It's a screaming good time when you have people to play with. Tilt-a-Kart madness. :)

Spitfire

01-19-2005, 07:54 PM

Thanks Ive played half of those. When I get some cash I might pick up the new Mario party or maybe Mario Tennis

Kid Icarus

01-19-2005, 11:37 PM

ThirdMarioBro

01-20-2005, 12:56 AM

http://ds.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=1515&pg=1&comments=full

Man, it looks nice, but seriously, OUCH!

Mecha Cow

01-20-2005, 05:02 AM

Yeah, that's being posted everywhere. It looks cool, but I don't see why he changed the design of the shield. It doesn't really fit.

ThirdMarioBro

01-20-2005, 03:13 PM

It's not like he can take an eraser to it. :lol:

Spitfire

01-20-2005, 06:31 PM

Go with Donkey Konga.

I can say, even after using a controller instead of a bongo, that it's one of the funest multiplayer experiances I've had since Smash Bros Melee.

Monopoly Party's okay, if you wanna play monopoly on a TV screen.

Also, I have a felling that DDR with Mario game's going to kick ass if it ever comes out here. Hopefuly they'll do a 4 player mode... That'd be crazy.
My friend has Donkey Konga and two bongo controllers*Though I prefere a regular controller* so if I wanna play that he can bring it. Monoply would be cool but I own like 4 versions of the game....haha oh well guess we forgot we had it. I think Im going to go with the tennis game I read its pretty fun. Hell maybe I should rent them first

Wow that tatto is crazy...nice back zits

jeff the cheff

01-20-2005, 06:53 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1103/jeffthecheff/135-3590_IMG.jpg

Duke

01-20-2005, 10:55 PM

Well it took me some time to read all 323 posts and i can't remember everyone who said what but here are some of my thoughts.

I totally agree w/ Leo and everyone else who stated that nintendo is a real GAME company. They live and die by their video games which makes the fact that they care about quality whether than quantity that much more meaning for to their costumers. Sure they could choose to pump out pointless crap in mass numbers because they more titles they have the more games the company will sell but they don't. They care about a few good games and making their consumers have a higher standard to judge by.

I hate the idea of mario in NBA street. What the crap? Sure it might actually help nintendo but it pisses me off. The mario i love doesn't shot hoops.

I'm w/ peanut and everyone else. Luigi deserves his own game, although i will admit i did enjoy luigi's mansion. But it about time he got a real game. The whole time i was playing paper mario 2 and they had the hints of luigi's own adventure. I was like i'd love to play Paper Luigi, and if it followed the same storyline i would love it. That is one of the major reason's I loved Superstar Saga. The fact that luigi was back and actually active. Also luigi, yoshi, and wario are a great addition to SM64DS.

Hmm...what else? The DS is amazing and the psp will/does suck. Sure it will sell but i sure as crap wouldn't want to have ported PSX titles on a handheld. Can't wait for wario ware.

Also...Does anyone else want a new donkey kong country? I mean what the crap? I mean they're porting the originals to GBA w/ a few extras. They should take the time to make a brand new one. And i mean a real donkey kong country not another DK64. Heck i don't know anyone whose played DKC who wouldn't buy a new game. Or even better than a new GBA DKC a initiative DS version. And if i don't want get one for GBA or DS, that is what i'd love to see launch Revolution. I mean nintendo is going to send the cube off w/ a blast (Mario 128, new Zelda) why not launch revolution w/ another classic character. BTW, i do think donkey konga is great but i still want a real DK game.

ThirdMarioBro

01-20-2005, 10:59 PM

Well, there's a new game called Donkey Kong: King of Swing coming to GBA this summer. It's presentation is kinda lacking, but it takes place in the DKC continunity. I don't know if it'll live up to the epicness ofthe original trilogy, but it's nice to see them move on.

And I don't touch the damn DKC GBA conversions. They gored them. Washed out renders, and scratchy as hell sound. I know the GBA can do better music than what Rare did with those ports, and Golden Sun proves it.

Duke

01-20-2005, 11:02 PM

Hmm...Well i will definitely be looking forward to the new one. Thanks for the info.

Mecha Cow

01-20-2005, 11:28 PM

This summer? O_o

Both King of Swing and Jungle Beat are coming out here in a few weeks.

ThirdMarioBro

01-20-2005, 11:34 PM

Yeah, you get King of Swing in about 2.5 weeks or so. We get Jungle Beat sometime in April or later, and King of Swing is locked in somewhere in Q2 2004 which means Summer around E3. *sigh*

Duke

01-20-2005, 11:59 PM

This summer? O_o

Both King of Swing and Jungle Beat are coming out here in a few weeks.
But we got the DS and that is what counts.

Peanut

01-21-2005, 04:06 AM

I can't wait for Jungle Beat. It looks like a super snazzy DKC, except with some innovative gameplay elements.

Mecha Cow

01-21-2005, 05:39 AM

But we got the DS and that is what counts.

Yeah, rub it in. :(

ThirdMarioBro

01-21-2005, 04:21 PM

I can't wait for Jungle Beat. It looks like a super snazzy DKC, except with some innovative gameplay elements.

It's the music that makes the mood. If they can make Rare quality music, then Jungle Beat is gold. If not, it won't feel right.

I miss Rare's music. :cry:

Duke

01-21-2005, 07:30 PM

I got a question about the pelican's DS protection screen. Does the package actually say it comes w/ a screen or does it just say it comes w/ 3 new stylus pens? Cause the only pelican product i found for the DS just mentioned 3 metallic stylus pens and said nothing about a protection screen.

ThirdMarioBro

01-21-2005, 08:23 PM

Yeah, I had to ask the girl at Gamestop about that too. They're in there. It's listed on the back. You just have to look REALLY good. The Pelican pack has screen protectors, the others don't. They kick ass as well.

jeff the cheff

01-21-2005, 10:33 PM

I think they suck. They don't even fit the screen all the way which really ****s me up on some parts of a game. The stylus' that came with it aren't as good as the one the DS comes with, and the top screen protecter is pointless.(its protected enough) I took the covers off, it was a waste of money IMO.

ThirdMarioBro

01-21-2005, 10:37 PM

Well, everyone complains about the bottom protector being too small, but they're forgetting one main thing. If it covered the entire screen it would go up under the lip of the plastic. Then, how in the world would you take them off and replace it when it became scratched up? That's why it a little small, so you can peel it off and replace it when needed.

Meeko

01-22-2005, 12:25 AM

Is Donkey Kong Jungle beat coming bundled with the bongo controllers? or am i gonna have to buy donkey konga to get them?

Barkworm

01-22-2005, 01:05 AM

There's a bundled version.
Oh and I don't think they'll get the music right. The music of the first two DKCs is pretty much untoppable. I want the game anyway, it looks really cool.

JameO

01-22-2005, 10:39 AM

I found this a while ago but have been playing Nintendo and Sega games all day. So here you go if you didn't know this site. http://www.everyvideogame.com/games/nintendo/text_game_list/a.htm

Peanut

01-22-2005, 11:30 AM

Well...they're basically using the same music anyways. If you watch some videos you'll hear a lot of familiar music.

Duke

01-22-2005, 02:39 PM

I just got feel the magic at best buy last night for $24.95. Very fun but the nightmare scene is really starting to get on my nerves. All 3 times i've did at the 3rd nightmare and had to start over. But it does give it that great old school feeling where u have to re-fight all the bosses at the end of a game but i don't even know if this is the end but still.

Dinny

01-22-2005, 02:42 PM

But we got the DS and that is what counts.

I live in the UK and have a DS (Japanese) and I've played Jungle Beat and King Of Swing. Jungle Beat is pretty damn good (but I've only played a couple of levels and it kills your ams if you use the bongos).
However King Of Swing is a big let down, it's a great idea, but it doesn't come together nicely. Some levels are too easy, and some are too hard, and eventually you just become bored doing the same repetetive tasks.

ThirdMarioBro

01-22-2005, 07:25 PM

1. Mario Party Advance (GBA) - 67,927.
2. Gran Turismo 4 (PS2) - 63,584/843,340.
3. Yoshitsune Eiyuuden (PS2) - 41,927
4. Sawaru Made in Wario (NDS) - 33,537/575,069.
5. DQ & FF in Itadaki Street Special (PS2) - 25,264/299,989.
6. Dragon Quest VIII (PS2) - 23,858/3,235,861.
7. Super Mario 64 DS (NDS) - 22,671/593,831.
8. Everybody's Golf Portable (PSP) - 18,682.
9. Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater (PS2) - 18,166/790,518.
10. Shin Sangoku Musou (PSP) - 17,070.

Good, Good.

These are the hardware sales for last week, with the first number representing sales this week, and the second number representing sales so far this year.

1. PlayStation 2 - 65,837/189,238.
2. PlayStation Portable - 64,602/126,654.
3. Nintendo DS - 53,527/162,088.
4. GameBoy Advance SP - 18,289/89,140.
5. GameCube - 7,475/27,178.
6. Gameboy Advance - 588/2,307.
7. Xbox - 506/1,685.

Fu*k. And so it begins.

Kid Icarus

01-22-2005, 09:03 PM

TMB, don't give up hope so soon ;).

Again, all they have to do is announce a Pokemon game, and suddnely there's a bazillion DS's sold.

ThirdMarioBro

01-23-2005, 12:17 AM

Yeah, but they're taking their sweet merry time doing it again.

Anyways...
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Nintendo Sponsors Snowboarding January 23, 2005

by: Matt Saunderson

Nintendo is sponsoring the 2005 US Open Snowboarding Championships in Vermont.

The US Open Snowboarding Championships has announced that it is welcoming Nintendo, along with Volvo, Paul Mitchell, and Motorolla, as new sponsors of its event, beginning with this year’s 23rd annual event.

The 2005 US Open Snowboarding Championship will be taking place at Vermont's Stratton Mountain. Nintendo will be on hand to sponsor the US$5000 Nintendo DS Best Trick Award during the men's and women's half-pipe finals. In addition, Nintendo will be stocking the ski lodge with playable games, including the Nintendo DS and games like Madden NFL 2005 and Spider-Man 2.

Other sponsors of the event, which takes place March 18th, 2005 to March 20th, 2005 are Gore-Tex, SoBe Beverages, and FHM. If you can’t make it to Vermont, you can catch US Open Snowboarding Championships on April 9th, 2005 on NBC.
source: Outdoor News Wire
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Nintendo commercials on NBC sports. Very good advertising Ninty. They're improving.

ThirdMarioBro

01-23-2005, 02:47 PM

12 hours later on a Sunday...

January 20, 2005 - The PSP is still tough to come by in Japan if you're not at the right place at the right time, but supply problems may be coming to an end in just a few months. Sony Computer Entertainment leader Ken Kutaragi revealed today in a speech given to the Tokyo Foreign Correspondents' Club that production of the PSP will rise to one million units per month starting in April.

One million may seem like a big number, but SCE's plans go beyond that. Kutaragi revealed that SCE hopes to increase production to two million units per month in the Summer. Still not impressed? The year end holiday rush could see a leap to three million units per month, a number which Kutaragi refers to as "a little crazy."
Kutaragi also revealed that SCE has shipped 800,000 PSP units since the system saw release on December 12. Prior to today's comments, the official number for shipments stood at 510,000 units. Kutaragi states that while 800,000 isn't small number of units, it is insufficient for the current market.

SCE will release the PSP in Europe and America some time in March. Kutaragi restated SCE's expectations to have 3,000,000 total PSPs shipped by then, with shipments split between Japan and the two new markets.

Greater production numbers suggests the possibility of reasonable supply following launch, although things may get tight at launch itself. We'd suggest that you hold off on those Ebay bids for now, but that you also don't hesitate to preorder at a game shop.

Okay, who here thinks we're screwed if Nintendo can't get off their ass and increse production. Somehow I figured this would happen. Just didn't want to admit it. :cry:

Barkworm

01-23-2005, 03:15 PM

Oh god, relax. The world won't be destroyed if Nintendo has to share the handheld market with Sony. And the DS won't fail. The only thing that might happen is that the Japanese GBA sales drop.

Kid Icarus

01-24-2005, 01:22 AM

I'll be honest. I'm drunk right now. For the first time. LOL.

Here's what I think. **** Sony. They can go to hell. As soon as videogames become an unprofitable market, they'll leave, and Nintendo'll give it a rebirth, AGAIN, and all'll be good.

Again, **** sony. **** them to bloody ****ing hell. I dont like their games, I dont' like the consoles, and i can't stand how the've turned videogames from an art to just an entertainment medium. They can kiss my butt..

Barkworm

01-24-2005, 03:47 AM

HAHAHA, dude, you've got to read this when you're sober again! :lol:

Mecha Cow

01-24-2005, 06:33 AM

He may be drunk, but I kinda agree with him. His last point anyway. Butt-kissing aside.

Kid Icarus

01-24-2005, 10:18 AM

HAHAHA, dude, you've got to read this when you're sober again! :lol:
:lol:

Yeah, I'm slowly remembering all the things I posted on the net last night XD.

Still, that all stands true.

ThirdMarioBro

01-24-2005, 01:05 PM

:lol: That was fun. Perhaps I should get hammered......nah, I'd just say those things anyway.

*claps* That was priceless. :lol:

The world won't be destroyed if Nintendo has to share the handheld market with Sony.

Okay rant time. I gotta say all this or explode.....

I'm tierd of sharing the market. I'm tired of Gamecube being a reclusive market, and people preaching the end of the Nintendo generation. I'm tired of Sony putting Snoop Dog on a handheld and preaching it as the next coming of Jesus, and saying I'm not cool for praying to it. I'm tired of all this "gamerz" sh*t. It never ends, and it looks to get worse. If the DS can't hold it's own against the PSP, then I hold absoultely no hope for Revolution whatsoever. DS is supposed to change the way we play games. People bought it at launch, but that's apprently only beacuse it was the only new gadget to buy. Now, here's the PSP, and people willingly jump on the same old sh*t. I don't believe were going to wind up sharing the market, I'm begenning to think it's going to be N64. Nintendo will be the only company producing anything new that takes full advantage of the hardware's capabilites. The third parties are just going to port N64 games like theres no tomarrow, and it's not like there were that many port. Each publisher has announced at least one title, but the moment PSP takes off what do you think they're going to do? "OMFG IT's THE NEXT PLAYZTATION!1!1!", and they all jump on board. The third parties are testing the thing, and they're going to loose confidence fast. No one has any originality. As I look at the future release list, only a handful of titles really use the hardware in new ways. Namco has the idea (Pac-Pix, and Pac n' Roll), Sega got the drift (Feel the Magic), but what else. Honestly, everyone else is just treating it like a gimmick. The new Castlevania just pokes at a few items, and Viewtiful Joe dosen't look to be any different. They overlook the touch screen and go stright to the graphics. All anyone cares about is the graphics. I've been around all the major gaming sites in the last 24 hours, and everyone I see is just talking about how the DS's graphics are nothing compared to PSP. I mean, what is there to do? The Playstation fans are out in droves, and they just want to watch Hoobestank videos on their PSP so that they can look cool going down the sidewalk. It's sick. I'm sick of being repressed, I'm sick of being talked down too, and I'm sick of being treated by everyone in the world like I'm some little 6 year old adult who just won't grow up and get with the times.

Nintendo isn't even holding their own in the kiddy market anynmore. Kids want to play what their big brothers are playing, and their big brothers are playing Def Jam Fight for New York. Mascot characters are being considered kiddy in the modern age. Notice that Sony is killing off all their mascot characters? Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank. They sold off Crash a long time ago. They're going to go on a licneced game benge and tray to instill the idea into people that mascot characters are outdated. If they are susessful, Nintendo just as well close up shop right now. People don;t want new things.

Every magazine I look at is preaching their death in hardware. Gamepro, EGM, Gameinformer, Tips and Tricks, f*ck, even Pocket Games is and they were founded on the f*cking GameBoy. Now they're writing messages to Nintendo encouraging them to go third party so they don't have to "undergo the humiliation of defeat by a superior foe". I've had it with the gaming community period. They're all mindless sheep.

I'll say it again. If DS dosen't at least hold an equal market share agains't the PS in the US, and most especially Japan, then I give up all hope whatsoever of Revolution doing a thing in the market. I have a feeling of what it's main feature will be thanks to a recent partnership with Sharp about a "new console related project", and if I'm right, it'll be the most amazing innovation we've ever seen....but if it can't sell to a reclusive public that just wants to play another Madden port, then what the fu*k is the point?

I apoligize for that, but I had to do it or bang my head on a wall. This seemed more constructive. Please don't snap at me or anything.

Kid Icarus

01-24-2005, 02:35 PM

Hm... and Sharp has those layered LCD screens... perhaps the Revolution's going to come with it's own moniter? I know that was the big reason Nintendo pulled 480i support from new Gamecubes, 'cause not enough people were investing in HDTV's to make it worthwile to them.

If that's something it has, the real 3D I mean, graphic whores are gonna flock to it.

I managed to sell at least 2 Gamecubes and RE4 to people who were gonna wait for the PS2 version. All it took was "Hey, you DO realize that a regular villager in RE4 has the same number of polygons that Snake has in MGS3, right? You know it's gonna look like crap on PS2, right?".

01-24-2005, 02:39 PM

You're finally starting to see the whole picture, TMB. Good for you. It's unfortunate, but it's the truth. And what can you do about it? Nothing.

Kid Icarus

01-24-2005, 02:44 PM

Oh, we'll see about that. I can read the headlines from E3 now: "Crazed Nintendo Fan Goes On Shooting Rampage".

Maybe I shoulden't give you ideas, huh TMB?

Barkworm

01-24-2005, 02:54 PM

Kid Icarus

01-24-2005, 03:06 PM

Knowing Nintendos history, although not as extensivly as TMB, I can gaurentee that won't happen. They'll die before they go third party.

Really though... as long as Nintendo's still turning a profit, they'll be around for a while yet.

Barkworm

01-24-2005, 03:24 PM

And what more could we want? Of course it would be nice if Nintendo was still #1 on the console market but in all honesty: I don't see that happen too soon. Let's just be happy that we still get new consoles and wonderful new games.

ThirdMarioBro

01-24-2005, 07:13 PM

As long as I get the games I want, I don't care. Sure, I love my Gamecube but if there ever came the time when I had to play new Zelda on the PlayStation 27... well, I wouldn't actually be happy with it but in the end it's the game that matters. Nothing more.

Won't happen, ever. I used to think that, but NIntendo won't go third party. They're too arrogant. Think about Shiggy. The man is flilthy rich. He could have retired years ago. He still works because he enjoys what he does. The moment someone at another company starts telling him what to do he'll quit. The reason NIntendo's quality has been maintained is because he trains the new staff. That's why they're good. Without his teaching, Nintendo would have alreay fallen. Zelda would be dead without Miyamoto or Anomua's guidence, or the people they trained to carry the tourch after them. They won't go third party. They'll just sell or split up and disband. They're game making style depends on making their own hardware to support their games. People claim that is selfish. I say it's what makes their games unique. They make a game system, then a Mario game to show us what that sucker can do. Then Zelda comes along 2 years later to perfect what Mario started. Third Parties don't publish many games on NIntendo's systems because 1. Sony has the cool image which equals market share and 2. The third Parties just know NIntendo's own games are going to kick their ass. No console = No NIntendo. I could go on all day, but i'll end with this.

As long as people like us continue to support them, we may be the underdogs forever, but there will always be a Nintendo.

jeff the cheff

01-26-2005, 09:06 AM

Donkey Konga is awesome, I played it yesterday for the first time. I was pretty good, with my practice in music video games.

Barkworm

01-26-2005, 11:31 AM

JameO

01-26-2005, 11:45 AM

After watching videos of that Dance Dance Mario game with Peanut it just makes me want to cut a rug with that Super Mario Bros. 2 theme.

ThirdMarioBro

01-26-2005, 12:05 PM

Alright, some of you will hate me for posting this but sadly it's the truth:
Nintendo 3rd-Quarter Profit Falls on Yen, Game Sales (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000080&sid=auAoykaxHB00&refer=asia)
Basically the DS is selling great but the games are not. :( Also the GameCube is doing worse than expected.

Goddamit. And so it begins. The fall of Nintendo and the rise of GTA.

*edit* Barkworm, do me a favor and look up Sony's quarterly reports so I can see how much they lost on PSP production. That should shut me up. ;)

Kid Icarus

01-26-2005, 01:18 PM

Donkey Konga is awesome, I played it yesterday for the first time. I was pretty good, with my practice in music video games.

I love Donkey Konga. I can't wait for the second game to come out... I'm thinking of modding my GC and importing the japanese games, just so I can get more songs. >_<.

TMB, calm down. They're still turning a profit. They made 63.1 BILLION YEN. That's CRAZY money, much more then anyone on these boards is ever gonna see.

ThirdMarioBro

01-27-2005, 01:56 AM

That was meant to be a sarcastic remark that people expect me to say. Everyone's profits hurt at a coonsole launch. The fact is, they managed to squeeze a profit by making the thing easy to manufacture. Almost no one makes profit at a console launch. That says a lot.

ThirdMarioBro

01-27-2005, 06:49 AM

Double Post News update

There is a STRONG rumor that NIntendo will unveil the DS online news at a press conference within the next 24 hours. No confirmation, but be alert people.

*edit*

January 27, 2005

by: Casey Ayers

Grab your glove and bat, because it's time to play ball - and not with Mario, for once.

Nintendo announced earlier today plans for a new baseball title on the 'Cube. Developed by Exile Interactive, a company best known for its work with Sega on the World Series Baseball franchise, Pennant Chase Baseball will feature full MLB licensing and commentary by several well-known voices of baseball. The game has a tentative release date of April 4, 2005.

It was also revealed that the Boston Red Sox' own David Ortiz will grace the cover of the baseball title. Hence, the title will make full use of the MLB license, with the inclusion of several popular sportscasting voices:

Nintendo has secured the services of veteran sportscasters Bob Brenly, Rick Rizzs and Tom Hutyler. Brenly played nine years with the San Francisco Giants®. After a tour in the broadcast booth, he managed the Arizona Diamondbacks® to victory in the 2001 World Series Championship. This spring he will begin announcing games for the Chicago Cubs®. The duo from Seattle brings decades of broadcast experience to Nintendo Pennant Chase Baseball. Rizzs has been a member of the Seattle Mariners® broadcast team for 20 years, while Hutyler has served as the public-address announcer for the Mariners since 1987.

Until its April release, more information on the game can be found at PennantChaseBaseball.com.
source: Nintendo of America - Press Releas

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Wierd.

Mecha Cow

01-28-2005, 04:51 AM

Some DS news for the Europeans around here. The DS will be released here on March 11th and will cost about €150,-. It will come bundled with the Metroid demo, just like in the US.

Here's the list of the European DS launch titles:

-Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo);
-WarioWare Touched! (Nintendo);
-Pokémon Dash (Nintendo);
-Polarium (Nintendo);
-Tiger Woods PGA Tour (EA);
-The URBZ: Sims in the City (EA);
-Spider-Man 2 (Activision);
-Project Rub (SEGA);
-Mr. DRILLER: Drill Spirits (Namco);
-Rayman DS (Ubisoft);
-Asphalt Urban GT (Gameloft/Ubisoft);
-Sprung: The Dating Game (Gameloft/Ubisoft);
-Zoo Keeper (Ignition);
-Ping Pals (THQ);
-Robots (Vivendi)

Project Rub is the European name for Feel the Magic btw.

I'm happy that we finally have a European release date and price, and it looks like there will be some pretty solid launch titles as well.

Barkworm

01-28-2005, 05:57 AM

Haha, Project Rub. That's so lame. Anyway, 150€ is a good price.

Mecha Cow

01-28-2005, 06:19 AM

Haha, Project Rub. That's so lame.

Yeah, lol. Now the game has three different names. :lol:

And I wonder what that Polarium game is.

ThirdMarioBro

01-28-2005, 07:57 AM

That's a hellva lot better launch list than we got. Damn you John Madden.

Barkworm

01-28-2005, 10:16 AM

Yeah but you were the first people who got the DS so don't complain. ;)

Kid Icarus

01-28-2005, 02:08 PM

If i was rich, BW, i'd have pick you up one and shipped it. lol.

But im a poor food service worker, so i digress.

Jed

01-28-2005, 06:06 PM

EDIT: The Nintendo DS Limited VIP Pak is now SOLD OUT!!

From Nintendo Europe (http://www.nintendo-europe.com):

"The Nintendo DS launches in Europe on March 11. But we’re giving you the chance to own the dual-screened wonder weeks in advance!

Exclusive to our most valued Nintendo VIPs and Club Members, a special Nintendo DS Limited VIP Pak is on sale now in the Stars Catalogue, including:

Nintendo DS system

Super Mario 64 DS (pre-release version) (Rated ‘3+’)

Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt (Demo version) (Rated '12+')

Wario Ware Touched! (Demo version) (Rated ‘3+’)

Exclusive Nintendo DS T-shirt

All this can be yours for £129.99 (€189.99 for Irish-resident members), plus 1,000 Stars to cover the cost of postage and packing.

But hurry: only 3000 of these highly desirable packs are being made available, exclusively to Nintendo VIPs and Club Members. You won’t find them anywhere else.

Go to the Stars Catalogue (http://www.nintendo-europe.com/NOE/en/GB/stars/index.jsp) now for further details."

At the time of this post there's about 864 left (they only went on sale today at about 11am Irish time) so if anyone wants one they better be quick about it! :)

ThirdMarioBro

01-28-2005, 06:11 PM

EDITED: Sony keeps marching strong.

Media Create has released the latest Japanese hardware sales data, for the week ending Jan. 23rd, 2005.

1) PlayStation 2 - 66,543 (YTD: 255,781) (Market Share: 35.58%)
2) Sony PSP - 56,274 (YTD: 183,028 ) (Market Share: 30.14%)
3) Nintendo DS - 44,608 (YTD: 206,696) (Market Share: 23.85%)
4) Nintendo Game Boy Advance SP - 13,317 (YTD: 102,457) (Market Share: 7.12%)
5) Nintendo GameCube - 5,359 (YTD: 32,537) (Market Share: 2.87%)
6) Microsoft Xbox - 498 (YTD: 2,183) (Market Share: 0.27%)
7) Nintendo Game Boy Advance - 332 (YTD: 2,639) (Market Share: 0.18%)

For the week Sony's PSP outsold the DS, despite the dual-screen handheld's strong market share overall. Sony's market share for the week was 65.72%. Nintendo's market share for the week was significantly less, at 34.02%. Luckily, for both Nintendo and Sony, their market share is far greater than that of Microsoft -- whose Xbox controls 0.27% of the Japanese videogame hardware market.
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Yeah, we're slowly losing. Looks like DS will be the reclusive market before long. I don't care as long as they make profit, and lots of it. Third parties aren't announcing that many new titles, but I notice more showing up for PSP. *sigh*

It'll keep going like this until online Mario Kart and Pokemon get announced. Bah, f*ck gamers anyway.

*plays Ridge Racer DS*

Barkworm

01-29-2005, 03:38 AM

It's interesting to see that the GBA sales keep falling in Japan. To be honest, I always thought this "third pillar" idea was kinda stupid and it seems like it's not working in Japan.

ThirdMarioBro

01-29-2005, 03:44 AM

Well, as long as software keeps coming out, then no big deal. They just need to release more colors. GBA will keep going for some time.

Mecha Cow

01-29-2005, 05:28 AM

Yeah, I kinda agree with Barkworm. I know Nintendo keeps saying the DS and the GBA are meant to co-exist, but come on. The DS can do almost everything the SP can and so much more. I don't see many people who already have a DS buying a GBA.

Kid Icarus

01-29-2005, 11:09 PM

Really... I'm thinking there really isn't some killer Pokemon MMORPG in the works. If there was, why not SAY it and sell a bazillion DS's now?

ThirdMarioBro

01-29-2005, 11:32 PM

Ugh, this sh*t is getting depressing. Perhaps they want to slump? I don't know. Either way, can we change the topic? It's like we spend 6 days a week talking about the sales figures, and 1 offline. It's depressing. Yes, Sony is taking over the world and wants to overtake NIntendo. No, Nintendo will never sell, and yes, as long as they make profit, they'll be around.

I'm just tired of being depressed over it.

*edit*

Here's my latest article

http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=4171&pg=1&comments=full

02-01-2005, 10:02 PM

Yeah, cut the sales bullsh*t. No one cares anymore. Anyway.

There's really not much to say in this thread anymore. The board is slowly dying as it is. I counted today, and the board went four hours without a single new post. I couldn't believe it. I'm about to spam the boards up and down just to get someone to say something.

Kid Icarus

02-01-2005, 10:13 PM

Is it time for the Super Spammer Bros. to attack? I think so.

Really, in 50 years, the Nintendo DS is going to be remember more then Sony's PSP, no matter what the sales end up being. Inovation = longevity. The Virtual Boy inovated when it wasn't needed, and didn't do it well, but people still talk about it.

Must..... post more.... No.

So, what do you guys think about that Nintendo Penant Chase Baseball game comming out? I say it's about time. They own the Seatle Mariners after all.

It'll also be nice to see what Nintendo can do with another sports sim. First Legend of Golfer, and now this.

02-01-2005, 10:17 PM

Hey, why not. I enjoyed Mario Golf and Tennis. I remember I was playing my friend in Mario Golf and I was kicking his ass. At one point he exclaimed, "JAPS MADE THIS GAME! THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY GOLF!!!" That was way too funny to me. Maybe I can wail on his ass in Baseball, too.

ThirdMarioBro

02-01-2005, 10:20 PM

Nah, it's not dying. There's just not much to talk about at the moment. Screw sales data. Now, I just found out Revolution will have twin processors. There's rumors that IBM is going to do something funky with them.

Kid Icarus

02-01-2005, 10:22 PM

Well, see, Nintendo has 2 baseball games in the works. Mario Baseball, and the Penant Chase one. Penant Chase (and I'm pry spelling that wrong >_>) is a realistic baseball sim, kinda like what EA would make. But I'm sure it'll be a lot better, just 'cause... yeah.

So yeah. For YEARS I had a fear of Mario 64's Rainbow Ride level. I hated that level with a passion. See, back when I was trying to beat M64 with a friend of mine, that level's 100 coin star was the ONLY one we coulden't get. Our save file sat there for months with 119 listed, until I convinced my mom to get a Gameshark. Pushed that GS button, and BOOM 99 coins. Walked on to the first circle platform, nabbed a coin, and I beat the game.

But I can proudly say I don't need to do that anymore. Today, Feburary 3rd, 2005, at approx. 2:30 AM while I lie in bed trying to fal asleep, I got the 100 coin star in Rainbow Ride after my second try. See, I always knew that you HAVE to get every blue coin inorder for it to work. I did that. I got all the coins in the lower area, took the carpet, and got the rest of the coins in the house. My phobia's broken, and all that's left of the game is 3 more 100 coin stars and 8 Castle stars. I haven't set foot in bowsers final level. Like TMB, I'm saving my Mario 64 DS Final Bowser Fight virginity until I hit 148 stars (there's 2 stars in each bowser level after all). 6 more stars to go until I get to finish the game.

Now, back to life! I've gotta go work an 11-5/8-close split shift... and I'm wasting sleep time on here! >_>

02-02-2005, 01:34 AM

We got a Wind Waker speed run here, people!

OH BABY! (http://www.archive.org/movies/details-db.php?collection=speed_runs&collectionid=ZeldaWindWaker_708)

Kid Icarus

02-02-2005, 06:27 PM

Update on my Mario 64 DS status:
I've just finished the 100 coin stars. I have 11 castle secret stars to go, including the stupid bunny one and the final two in the last Bowser level. Thankfuly, I've gotten all of the new ones except the 8 red coin in the frosty-dude battle level. 50xx0|2z.

Spitfire

02-02-2005, 06:31 PM

:cry: Devil May Cry is comming out on PSP and it makes me sad to see that game be put on a crappy handheld system. PSP cannot handle a DMC game. DS couldnt either. PS2 as it is can barely handle it. And PSP is worse then PSP. Probly breaks just as easily. Stupid grrr O hate Sony. I HATE THEM SO MUCH!

Errhrm now that I have that off my chest...does anyone know if the Viewtiful Joe game for DS is going to be a port or not?

ThirdMarioBro

02-02-2005, 07:23 PM

It's brand new. That's all I know, but it is new. REJOICE IT'S NOT A CRAPPY PORT! :D

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Top Games Of 2004 Honored February 02, 2005

by: Ray Almeda

The results to the 8th Annual Interactive Achievement Awards are in.

Yesterday evening during the annual D.I.C.E. Summit in Las Vegas, the top video-games of 2004 were honored in the 8th Annual Interactive Achievement Awards.

The games were voted upon by game industry peer panels by the Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences. The awards celebrate a completed projects' outstanding technical and artistic achievements in the world of interactive entertainment.

"The Interactive Achievement Awards provide an important arena for
the interactive entertainment industry to showcase the year's most
outstanding video and computer games," said Joseph Olin, president of the Academy of Interactive Arts & Sciences. "This year's winners not
only represent some of 2004's most popular games, but they also embody
the spirit and innovation that has driven this industry since its
inception."

Winners of the 8th annual interactive achievement award categories are listed below, along with the corresponding publishers and
developers, respectively:

-- Game Of The Year - Half-Life 2 (Vivendi Universal Games/Valve)

-- Console Game Of The Year - Halo 2 (Microsoft/Bungie)

-- Computer Game Of The Year - Half-Life 2 (Vivendi Universal Games/Valve)

-- Innovation in Computer Gaming - Half-Life 2 (Vivendi Universal Games/Valve)

-- Innovation In Console Gaming - Katamari Damacy (Namco Hometek Inc./Namco Limited)

-- Outstanding Achievement In Art Direction - Half-Life 2
(Vivendi Universal Games/Valve)

-- Outstanding Achievement In Animation -Half-Life 2 (Vivendi Universal Games/Valve)

-- Outstanding Character Performance, Male - Robert Guillaume - Half-Life 2 (Vivendi Universal Games/Valve)

-- Outstanding Character Performance, Female - Judy Dench - Golden Eye: Rouge Agent (Electronic Arts/EA/LA)

-- Outstanding Achievement In Soundtrack - Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (Rockstar Games/Rockstar North)

-- Outstanding Achievement In Original Musical Composition - Fable (Microsoft/Big Blue Box)

-- Outstanding Achievement In Sound Design - Halo 2 (Microsoft/Bungie)

-- Outstanding Achievement In Game Play Engineering - Half-Life 2(Vivendi Universal Games/Valve)

-- Outstanding Achievement In Online Game Play - Halo 2 (Microsoft/Bungie)

-- Outstanding Achievement In Visual Engineering - Half-Life 2 (Vivendi Universal Games/Valve)

-- Outstanding Achievement In Game Design - Katamari Damacy
(Namco Hometek Inc./Namco Limited)

-- Outstanding Achievement In Character Or Story Development -
Fable (Microsoft/Big Blue Box)

-- Platform Action/Adventure Game Of The Year - Prince of Persia: Warrior Within (Ubisoft/Ubisoft Montreal)

-- Action/Adventure Game Of The Year - Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (Rockstar Games/Rockstar North)

-- Action Sports Game Of The Year - Tony Hawk's Underground 2 (Activision/Neversoft)

-- First Person Action Game Of The Year - Halo 2 (Microsoft/Bungie)

-- Children's Title Of The Year - Sly Cooper 2 (Sony Computer Entertainment America/Sucker Punch)

-- Family Game of the Year - Donkey Konga (Nintendo/Namco)

-- Fighting Game Of The Year - Mortal Kombat: Deception (Midway/Midway Chicago)

-- Racing Game Of The Year - Burnout 3 (Electronic Arts/Criterion)

-- Role Playing Game Of The Year - Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door (Nintendo/Intelligent Systems)

-- Sports Simulation Game Of The Year - ESPN NFL 2K5 (Sega/Visual Concepts)

-- Wireless Game Of The Year - Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo)

-- Handheld Game Of The Year - Metroid: Zero Mission (Nintendo)

-- Action/Adventure Game Of The Year - Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow (Ubisoft/Ubisoft Shanghai, Paris, Annecy Studios)

-- Children's Game Of The Year - Backyard Skateboarding
(Atari/Humongous Entertainment)

-- Downloadable Game Of The Year - The Incredibles: Escape from Nomanisan Island (Disney Online)

-- Family Game Of The Year - Zoo Tycoon 2 (Microsoft/Blue Fang Games)

-- First Person Action Game Of The Year - Half-Life 2 (Vivendi Universal Games/Valve)

-- Role Playing Game Of The Year - Neverwinter Nights: Kingmaker
(BioWare/BioWare)

-- Sports Game Of The Year - Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2005
(Electronic Arts/Electronic Arts Redwood Shores)

-- Strategy Game Of The Year - Rome: Total War
(Activision/Creative Assembly)

-- Massive Multiplayer/Persistent World Game Of The Year -World of WarCraft (Vivendi Universal Games/Blizzard)

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Not too bad. It's not been a very innovative year for the consoles so I understand the games that won. Last year was a hardware year anyway. This is a software year, so I'm waiting for the next awards. Anyway, I'm ok with the results.

jeff the cheff

02-02-2005, 07:36 PM

SM64DS: I have 144 stars. I will beat this game.

Spitfire

02-02-2005, 07:45 PM

God half of those games are FPS games. I dont get why people like FPS games so much their so boring! I dont care how good the story and the graphics are. Oh well atleast Nintendo got some awards...better then none. Though I could have guessed it would be all Half Life, Halo, and GTA
Shallow magazine worshipping judges

Peanut

02-02-2005, 07:59 PM

Woah now buddy. Just because people don't argee with your opinions doesn't make them wrong...but I agree, FPS's are boring as hell.

Edit: IGN just posted their review of Star Fox Assault. It doesn't look so good for the game, especially considering what it got from a site that's known for over rating everything. See the review here. (http://cube.ign.com/articles/584/584886p1.html)

Kid Icarus

02-02-2005, 11:24 PM

Considering that site's known to have HEAVY income from both Sony and Microsoft, that's not supprising.

It's a new Star Fox game. You fly around and shoot things in space.

If it's not broke, why fix it?

And congrats to Half-Life 2. I hear that game's amazing. Maybe once I get a new computer, I'll give it a go.

Anyone else notice that they have 2 Role Playing Game of the Year catagories? Kinda screwy.

Duke

02-02-2005, 11:57 PM

Anyone else notice that they have 2 Role Playing Game of the Year catagories? Kinda screwy.Yeah, it kinda of confused me too but Paper Mario was my favorite game of 2004 so i'm glad it got something even if it was one of two winners.

Mecha Cow

02-03-2005, 12:06 AM

Considering that site's known to have HEAVY income from both Sony and Microsoft, that's not supprising.

As much as I hate to admit it, IGN usually is fair in their reviews. Well, 'fair' is a strong word, but I've never seen them lower the score just because the game in question is a Nintendo game. Their Nintendo-bashing is mostly confined to taking cheap jabs in articles.

Or maybe I just haven't been paying enough attention.

As for Starfox...Well, I've been sceptic about it since Starfox Adventures (That was Rare and this is Namco I know, but it left a very bad taste in the mouth)...I'll wait what Gamespot says and give it a rent.

ThirdMarioBro

02-03-2005, 01:07 AM

Okay, lemme clear this up.

I'm writing a COMPLETE history of Star fox that will clear up all the SFAdventures stuff. It is NOT a Star Fox game. Nitnendo just told Rare to stick Fox into their recently completel Dinosaur Planet game. Rare got pissed, finshed the game, and went to Billy$oft. THIS is the true next Star Fox game. Don't blame it for Nintendo's bullying Rare into doing something they didn't want to do. As I said, the article comes out on Monday and It'll explain the whole thing, I promise.

As for the game, if it's half as good as SF64, then I'll have a blast and the multiplayer looks godly. I'm sold. Fu*k IGN as they know nothing.

Mecha Cow

02-03-2005, 05:33 AM

I'm writing a COMPLETE history of Star fox that will clear up all the SFAdventures stuff. It is NOT a Star Fox game. Nitnendo just told Rare to stick Fox into their recently completel Dinosaur Planet game. Rare got pissed, finshed the game, and went to Billy$oft. THIS is the true next Star Fox game. Don't blame it for Nintendo's bullying Rare into doing something they didn't want to do. As I said, the article comes out on Monday and It'll explain the whole thing, I promise.
Yeah, I know. But like I said, it left a bad taste in my mouth, and regardless of whether it's canon or not, gave me a bad impression of Starfox.

On another note, I saw a DS demo unit in a department store today. But I didn't get a chance to play it because the store clerks were too busy playing it themselves. :lol:

Barkworm

02-03-2005, 07:23 AM

Peanut

02-03-2005, 01:00 PM

All the good Nintendo games got great reviews at IGN, there's absolutely no reason to believe that they'd lower the rating on purpose. It's a pity, I was looking forward to this and I doubt Gamespot or other reviewers will give much better ratings.

Exactly. IGN isn't ignorant, nor are they taking money from Sony or Microsoft to give Nintendo games bad scores. What they do do is overrate games from both those companies though. They don't, and I repeat DO NOT give biased scores to Nintendo games. I usually find their scores to be spot on, and either way we'll see what Gamespot gives it. BTW they said the Arwing missions were good but the ground missions are god awful. I wasn't buying this game anyways, so I wouldn't care if it got a 10 on every site.

Edit: And this video is pretty funny. http://www.planet-nintendo.nl/cubegone.wmv

ThirdMarioBro

02-03-2005, 10:42 PM

Star Fox is a rail shooter, and frankly, this is probobly the last one we'll ever play, so I'd just sit back and enjoy it.

BTW, the multiplayer is set up so that you can jump off a building, land on someone else's craft, hijack it and kill the pilot, then fly away in their arwing. No other flight game I know of can do that. Give it a chance, and at least rent it rather than just trust someone else's opinion. Screw IGN's, screw mine. Just rent it and try it yourself. IGN is comparing it to games like Crimson Skies which isn't fair. It's not like that. It's multiplayer sim, and Star Fox is button mashing arcade style. Personally, I'm going to have a blast with this sucker since I'll probobly never get another rail shooter, but to each his own. I'm just asking you guys to at least rent it. Next generation, Star Fox will change to be a deeper game, but for now, I just want to enjoy a good button masher. They're a dying breed, and I want to wish them farewell before moving on to other styles of shoot em' ups. Sometimes simplier is good, sometimes it's not. Next gen, it won't be, right now, why not?

*edit*

: And this video is pretty funny. http://www.planet-nintendo.nl/cubegone.wmv

Can you tell me what it's about before I get it? 14MB on 56K is a big investment. :lol: ;)

Peanut

02-03-2005, 10:58 PM

It's about these guys destroying their old Cube before getting a new one. They drag it behind their car for what seems like a couple minutes, and the thing still works! Not just turning on mind you, I mean playing games too.

As for Star Fox, I was probably going to rent it, but I doubted I've ever buy it. The ground based missions just seem like they'll be crappy. If it was all Arwing with a few Landmaster tanks thrown in places, I'd be happy.

Kid Icarus

02-04-2005, 12:09 AM

Considering this isn't even a Nintendo developed game, but rather a Namco developed game, that flushes the whole arugment down the crapper :D.

I pw0n3d Mario 64 DS today. All 150 stars (I was chatting with Spitfire when I got to 147, then sleep hit me >_>). All that's left is to beat bowser, but you don't get any marks for that.

Now, to finish Resident Evil 4!

ThirdMarioBro

02-04-2005, 12:29 AM

Star Fox will kick ass. Nothing like the feeling of blowing off a bomb and watching it take out a hundred ships.
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MAJOR EDIT

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For those who believe Nintendo hasn't changed, I'll say this. Namco had to clear this with Nintendo before they let them do it, but here we go.....

BIG ASS SPOILERS
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I won't say who (play the damn thing if you want to know ;) ), but apperently Namco killed off FOUR core characters in Star Fox Assault. They also pulled a Star Trek Generations with some of the fleet if you get my drift, and the enemies in this sucker can infest your body and control you as they wish. Corneria is attempting to destory them, but failing miserably. Also, yes Andross is dead and is not in this sucker AT ALL. There's a new boss. Yes, you know him, but he ain;t who you think.
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In other words, they actually killed off some of their core characters. It's shocking as hell and left me speechless. You ABSOULTELY HAVE to play this game. It will leave you in dead shock.

Peanut

02-04-2005, 08:55 PM

That sounds pretty interesting. I planned on renting it soon after release. I'll have to do that soon.

Anyways, good old Reggie answered a pretty good question in IGN's third Nintendo Minute feature, which is one of few good new features on the site.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/585/585364p1.html

jeff the cheff

02-04-2005, 10:36 PM

I beat SM64DS the other night. I'm awesome. :D

ThirdMarioBro

02-05-2005, 12:12 AM

Of course. Here's what we need hardcore gamers -- you, IGN, and your readers -- to understand. We love you guys and girls. You are the backbone of our company. Nintendo will always create epic adventures that drive your reflexes wild. We're talking about titles like Metroid Prime 2: Echoes and the upcoming Legend of Zelda for GameCube that keep you up all night mapping out strategy guides and trading secrets with friends. Yes, Nintendo has older and more hardcore gamers at its heart, and that is never going away.

That just makes me smile. :)

Kid Icarus

02-05-2005, 12:38 AM

Oh Reggie, how us fanboys triumph in your glory!

I loved the subtle smackdown he gave IGN as well. Great stuff :).

Edit: Oh, and Jeff, I pwoned that game too. |20xx0|2|) !75 50xx05z!!!5|-|!|=71!1

ThirdMarioBro

02-05-2005, 01:22 AM

Good. That means the three of us have killed it. Now, give me Wario Ware.

Peanut

02-05-2005, 01:53 AM

Yeah, I took out SM64 DS about 2 weeks ago, so add me to that list as well. Can't wait for Wario Ware.

Voltron

02-05-2005, 05:21 PM

I just read that the Revolution will be considered a citizen in 40 nations including the Congo.

Kid Icarus

02-05-2005, 11:52 PM

Screw Wario Ware. I love that game, but here's what I really want:

Pokemon MMORPG!

If getting that means I'd be castrated... I think I'd take the game.

ThirdMarioBro

02-06-2005, 12:24 AM

One day........HURRY UP NINTENDO.

*sigh*

Online Mario Kart and MMORPG Pokemon. Repeat after me Nintendo....

*edit*

Does anyone have any good pictures of Iwata? I'm gonna do a bio on him.

Mecha Cow

02-06-2005, 05:45 AM

This one is pretty good, if you don't mind stealing borrowing from IGN (http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/530/530986/profile-satoru-iwata-20040716011846399.jpg).

ThirdMarioBro

02-06-2005, 01:34 PM

Ah, thank you. That will be helpful :)

Now, who's ready for a good laugh...
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February 06, 2005

by: Phillip Levin

According to the company, the PlayStation 2 is the source of some technological issues in porting Capcom's masterpiece.

In the latest issue of the Japanese magazine CG World, Capcom spoke out on the GameCube-to-PlayStation 2 port of its popular Resident Evil 4 title. According to CG World, Capcom has run into some technological problems while trying to adapt RE4 to the PlayStation 2 architecture.

One of the most problematic issues in porting the title has come down to memory size. The GameCube features primarily 24 bits of memory, whereas PlayStation 2 only produces 4 to 8 bits of memory.

Further, Capcom blames Sony’s hardware yet again when dealing with polygons. The GameCube version of Resident Evil 4’s main star, Leon S. Kennedy, pushes approximately 10,000 polygons, while the PlayStation 2 version currently renders 5,000. Capcom went on to say that the character model of Snake from Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater on PlayStation 2 features 4,000 polygons, and that that was roughly the same amount of polygons that its villagers (which RE4 often features handfuls of on the screen simultaneously) are made up of.

That said, Capcom said that the PlayStation 2 does have at least one aspect to its hardware that could come in helpfully: the ability to make use of more textures at a time. Still, the publisher said that there must be a balance between the number of textures and the quality of them.

Currently, the PlayStation 2 version of Resident Evil 4 is scheduled to release sometime in late 2005, presumably as a holiday title for Sony’s console. Meanwhile, the GameCube incarnation has been on retail shelves since January 11, 2005.
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:lol: :lol: Stupid bastards :lol:

02-06-2005, 02:00 PM

Considering PS2 came out in 2000, that isn't really any surprise. Of course you have to sacrifice some power in order for the game to work on a system that isn't as capable. Normally I would say don't even bother putting it on that system, but Resident Evil started out on a Sony product, so it's only natural to see it on there at some point.

Barkworm

02-06-2005, 02:24 PM

It will be 2006 when the PS2 version comes out. I don't think a lot of people will buy it at that point, it seems like the main reason for this built is to prevent Nintendo from selling more GameCubes.

Kid Icarus

02-06-2005, 05:28 PM

So then, by that logic we should see Mega Man x4-whatevertheheckthey'reonnow release on Gamecube.

Resident Evil started out as a CAPCOM product, not a Sony product.

02-06-2005, 05:49 PM

I wasn't talking about who MADE it. I was talking about what system it was on. Why the Mega Man games are not on GameCube, I don't know. If you're saying you don't want to see RE4 on PS2, then I've lost all faith in the video game community. When the F*CK was it about companies and not about the game? 3/4 of the games that I play, I don't even know what company made them. I don't care. If they deliver, then I'm happy. I don't look at companies like EA and say, "OH MY GOD THEY TREAT THEIR EMPLOYEES BADLY! NEVER BUY THEIR GAMES!!!!!!!" Who the hell cares? I don't. They deliver the games, and if it's good, I'll buy it. Companies are the least on my mind when I am buying a game.

Am I the only person left on this mother f*cking board that is a fan of the games? I don't even know anymore. It would be nice to go back to when people loved games for what they were, and no one was crying about bullsh*t like this. I'm so tired of this. Even this whole board is a bunch of crying and complaining. I didn't donate my money for an electronic shoulder to cry on. I'm sorry, but I don't have that kind of money to burn.

Kid Icarus

02-06-2005, 06:34 PM

You don't wanna read my posts, fine. There's that 'ignore user' feature on here. Best get your donations worth.

This IS the Nintendo Discussion Thread. Not the Video Game Discussion Thread. You don't wanna read fanboys complaints? Then I woulden't even bother comming in here.

You want a good reason I'm upset over RE4 being ported? Besides the fact that, not even a week before the port was announced, Capcom was saying it would only ever be on Gamecube?

Resident Evil 4, as a solid exclusive, would have sold more Gamecubes. More Gamecubes sold mean a higher market share for Nintendo, and more market share for Nintendo means they have more resources to build even better games. I concede the fact that there are plenty of other ways Nintendo could, and should, gain more market share, but this was part of the bigger picture. If Nintendo's share drops too low, they run the risk of depleting their bank accounts because they won't be pulling in enough money to produce games. What do you think'll happen then? Simple; Nintendo will cease to exist. This is random crying. This is, in my mind, a soild reason to be upset over Capcoms decision. Those five games they announced as exclusive titles would have done wonders for Gamecube's public apperance.

Another reason? Sure. RE4's going to be crap on PS2. It's going to look like crap, it's going to sound like crap. It may even play like crap, as Mikami isn't there to oversee the translation. This game doesn't diserve to be hacked up to run on a system that can't handle it. That's the honest truth to. If they had ported to the PC, or Xbox, that'd have been better. At least those platforms could handle the game as is. Heck, Xbox and some PC's might have been able to make it look BETTER then the Gamecube version. It's not about graphics, usually, but RE4 uses realism to scare the bejesus out of you. I don't think it'd be as creepy if, when Chainsaw Man clears off Leons head, the quality of the animation takes a drop as well as the graphic presentation.

And you know what? Since you use them as an example... I'm actually interested in a couple of EA's games on DS. Infact, I've enjoyed Feel the Magic much more then I enjoyed Super Mario 64 DS. In my mind it better suits the platform it's on. Infact, I'm only interest in a handful of Nintendos announced DS titles. Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Wario Ware, New Super Mario Bros., and Band Brothers. On the third party side, there's only a few that I'm not interested in. Who'da though, huh?

I also play TONS of TCG's. Pokemon, Magic, Yugioh (haven't for a while. the game sucks), Magi-Nation, Card Captors, Sailor Moon, Neopets, Xmen, Vs Systems, DBZ, TMNT.... add in a few minatures, and a few table top RPG's. Even though Wizards is my favorite TCG publisher, I play most any and every game that comes out in TCG's. So really, It'd be MUCH appreciated if you didn't make generalizations about me. Thanks.

02-06-2005, 06:41 PM

Say what you want, it's not going to change my opinion. If this is really some kind of bullsh*t fanboy thread where everything is wonderful that has the name Nintendo on it, then I don't want to be a part of it. I don't even like Nintendo anymore thanks to this thread.

Peanut

02-06-2005, 07:14 PM

You know...I'm going to have to go with Ai on this. Enough is enough. Nintendo was probably my favourite game company, but lately I've been seeing just how bad Nintendo fanboys can be. I don't say that to be rude, and I'm not even speaking of our resident fanboys, but just on a whole I've begun to tire over the relentless pissing and moaning. There's more to videogames than just Nintendo, and I'm proud to say that I don't have my eyes glued shut to other systems and games. If Nintendo fanboys had their way, how many people would go without RE4 for months, maybe even years? Not everyone can afford to buy more than a single console. Why not have a 3rd party game of such a great calibur available to as many gamers as possible? Why not have Capcom continue to get strong sales? Won't that just mean more great games from them for the gaming community as a whole? Aren't we supposed to be one of the most loyal fanbases to our hobby? Yet everyday I see comments on people wanting their company to triumph over other companies, people wanting games to fail just so they can brag that their favourite game sold more copies, what the hell is that? Ignorant fanboyism splinters the videogame community, when we should all be happy that any game on any console is selling well. What does that do? It leads to growth in the industry, which leads to better games for ALL OF US! As much as people hate EA, they can, have, and will continue to make quality games. As much as Sony is hated, do you think the industry would be as strong as it is today if the Playstation had never showed up? I seriously doubt that. Like Ai said, this should be about the games...not who made them, not what console they're on, but how good they are. Believe it or not, a good game is a good game, no matter where it came from or on which console it resides.

ThirdMarioBro

02-06-2005, 08:09 PM

But that's the point, people do care about who made them. People slam a system that wasn't made bt Sony even though they know nothing about it. I slam Sony, but I do know about it. Fanboys work both ways even if they don't know that they are. They slam anything that's not in the public eye, and anything that they're told to slam. Fanboys exist even though they claim they're not. I support NIntendo like this because I know that when they cease to exist, this industry will grow stale. They don't know how to market, so it works like this.

Nintendo invents a new idea, and Sony disclaims it because they didn't have it. Then next generation, Sony utilizes that same technology and sales it to the mass market. They're excellent at that, and it becomes standard. Does Nintendo get credit? Yeah, amongst gamers that are educated, but those who aren't will slam them for no reason other than to look intelligent.

And consider this, a PS2 port of RE4 is only going to make the RE franchise look poor because the game wes made for different hardware. When the game plays like crap, people who don't know better will be confused. They'll remember all those glowing reviews and think "why is this crap?". It will hurt credability of magazines, it will hurt Capcom reputation amongst the casual crowd, and the hardcore crowd already knows. It'l like when Sonic Team produced Sonic Heroes for all three consoles. They designed it on the Cube due to ease of programming. When they ported it to Xbox, it ran the same and people were happy and it sold moderately well. When they ported it to PS2, it played like pure crap, and didn't sell 1/10 what it did on GCN simply because the fans were not on that system and the game didn;t attract new fans because the port was so poorly done which hurt Sonic, rather than Nintendo. Hell, it ran half speed. That's why most people make their games on PS2 and port them to the other two, so that the PS2 version won't look like crap. As a result, the GCN and Xbox vrsions usually suck because of it.

Capcom hurt themselves more than Nintendo did here because they are going to be selling an excellent game on a platfoprm that can't handle it, and that will make the game, and the people who made it look incompetent. Games are art, especially this game, and goring it like this is like pissing on the Mona Lisa. I feel sorry for Mikimi for having to see his work be degraded for the mass market. If it came down between market growth, and market quality, then I vote the latter.

If Nintendo falls, then "All of us" are not getting better games. There's just more games. Yeah, the industry makes more money, but I don't get my fun which means I want out. Good for the people making cash, but I don't live to support their mortgage.

I'll quit discussing this now. If anyone dosen't agree, then ignore it. I'm not discussing it anymore if no one wants to listen. The fact exists, and I'm just pointing it out. End of rant.

Duke

02-06-2005, 08:57 PM

I totally agree w/ AI and Peanut. The industry should be about games not companies. I'll play a game regardless of who makes it or what console it comes out on as long as i enjoy the game. Heck, i don't even care if a ton of crap games are made, I'll just avoid them. What does it matter? Really? It doesn't. Capcom has the rights to the game, period, sure i totally believe in integrity and keeping your word but what capcom does is capcom's choice. If guys were really so upset about it why not boycot capcom? Now there's an idea. But you guys won't boycot them because they make good quality games. So, why not let PS2 only owners enjoy their games too, even if it is an inferior version.

On a side not anyone catch Mario on the simpsons?

ThirdMarioBro

02-06-2005, 09:03 PM

Oh god that was priceless. Homer was DK :lol: :lol:

Duke

02-06-2005, 09:08 PM

Yeah, i haven't enjoyed the simpsons in a while but so far this has been a great episode.

Edit: Well the ep turned into pretty much utter crap after i posted but i still enjoyed the beginning of the episode and the nods to nintendo.

Mecha Cow

02-06-2005, 11:50 PM

Funny how someone who likes Nintendo and dislikes Sony is so quickly labelled an ignorant fanboy. Meh. We all have our reasons for liking what we do, no-one here needs to justify anything, nor is anyone ignorant. Let's not go around making generalisations.

Yes, of course it's about the games. But some people think companies like Sony and EA are cheapening the industry, which will result in lesser quality games. That would be an opinion. One can choose to agree or disagree, but at least respect someone's opinion. Like I said, we all have our reasons.

But let's just keep this thread limited to the discussion of Nintendo games and products from now on. After all, that was what this thread was created for, and then unpleasant discussions like this can be avoided.

Peanut

02-07-2005, 12:47 AM

Funny how someone who likes Nintendo and dislikes Sony is so quickly labelled an ignorant fanboy. Meh. We all have our reasons for liking what we do, no-one here needs to justify anything, nor is anyone ignorant. Let's not go around making generalisations.

Yes, of course it's about the games. But some people think companies like Sony and EA are cheapening the industry, which will result in lesser quality games. That would be an opinion. One can choose to agree or disagree, but at least respect someone's opinion. Like I said, we all have our reasons.

No one was disrespecting opinions. I'd also like you to note I wasn't calling anyone here or anyone who "likes Nintendo and dislikes Sony" an ignorant fanboy, because then I'd be labeling myself as such. I don't hide the fact I have a great distaste for Sony's console and games. You act as if I went out and called everyone in this thread ignorant and in need of justifying their reasons, which I plainly did not. If you weren't directing these comments at me, I apologize, but I don't see who else they could be directed towards.

ThirdMarioBro

02-07-2005, 01:38 AM

Let's all just drop it. There's enough in this world to be depressed about. I just want to move on and go back to what we were doing.

Mecha Cow

02-07-2005, 01:53 AM

You act as if I went out and called everyone in this thread ignorant and in need of justifying their reasons, which I plainly did not. If you weren't directing these comments at me, I apologize, but I don't see who else they could be directed towards.

I was speaking generally, not specifically to you or anyone else. I apologize for the confusion.

TMB is right, let's drop it and focus on the games we love.

Peanut

02-07-2005, 09:23 PM

I finally saw some stuff that confirms Donkey Konga 2 and 3 will be coming to North America. I'm so happy, my sister will probably break into a dance because of this news.

Gamespot finally got done reviewing Star Fox Assault (http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/starfoxworkingtitle/review.html) . Seems like the word all around is it's pretty average. I have to rent it next chance I get.

Kid Icarus

02-07-2005, 11:23 PM

Hm... maybe they'll make it a pack? Or just skip to DKA3 and have DKA2 as a pre-order bonus. Ninty hasn't done one of those for a while...

ThirdMarioBro

02-08-2005, 02:32 AM

Well, the song lists are so different in each reigon that I may as well just get the 3 US ones, and the 3 Japanese ones. All in all, NOA did a pretty good job of localizing it. I like the song selections and they found good US equivelents for the Pokemon and Kirby themes by using the US anime music. They even left 4Kids out of it because I found out that they own the rights to the theme songs from those two shows. I always thought they were above the rest of those (and I mean the original season one Pokemon theme. That was good. The rest sucked, so Ninty chose the right one.

Anyways, Peanut's right. DKA kicks ass and I'm happy there will be US versions of the other two. That means all the more songs and since there are two versions of the game, we get two regions worth of music. Total kickass

*happy dances*

Now, if there were only anyone to play with.....

Kid Icarus

02-08-2005, 09:49 PM

I just got to the 6th island in Pokemon LeafGreen today, and the braile in it talks about us making the next world...

This just about seals it for me. The next Pokemon game's going to be an MMORPG.

ThirdMarioBro

02-08-2005, 11:44 PM

http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=4209&pg=1&comments=full#comments

My new article. The Life of Star Fox. Twas hell to research. It will be released in four parts over this week. Interview comes tomarrow.

Kid Icarus

02-09-2005, 08:22 AM

Good start to the article!

ThirdMarioBro

02-09-2005, 11:18 AM

hehe part two has Shiggy naming mascots after Japanese gods. :D

ThirdMarioBro

02-09-2005, 02:20 PM

NEWS UPDATE

This sucks ass.

Silicon Knights Develops For Next Gen February 09, 2005

by: Phillip Levin

The developer is already working on next-generation hardware.

According to the Canadian-based Newspaper The Standard and online video game website Just-Cubed, Silicon Knights has begun development on next-generation consoles. However, the Canadian developer will not be developing for either the Nintendo Revolution or Sony PlayStation 3 but instead is working on software for Microsoft’s “Xbox 2,” also known as “Xenon.”

Silicon Knights, according to IGNcube, last spring ended its exclusive relationship with Nintendo and has since them remained quiet about its future. However, it is expected that later this month Silicon Knights will finally reveal what project(s) they have been working on.

Silicon Knights’ last video game was the GameCube remake Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, released in March of 2004. The espionage-filled title re-told the story of the PlayStation original, but featured a completely re-designed graphics engine, audio work and re-choreographed cut-scenes. Just two years before The Twin Snakes, the developer released its all-original action horror title called Eternal Darkness: Sanity’s Requiem, which earned handfuls of reviews praising the developer and its first GCN release.

Advanced Media Network will have more on Silicon Knights as it happens. Stay tuned.
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Well, so much for the rumors. So long Silicon Kinghts. It was nice knowing you. Seriously, where in the hell are the Revolution Third Party games going to come from.

02-09-2005, 02:25 PM

Oh man, that sucks. Silicon Knights had some great stuff going, and I could've guaranteed something great coming out for Revolution from them. This is pretty puzzling, though. What is Nintendo going to put on their system besides their own franchises? I don't get it.

ThirdMarioBro

02-09-2005, 02:28 PM

Me neither. It's confusing as hell to be in the dark. :|

Kid Icarus

02-09-2005, 02:50 PM

Well, looks like I'll be picking up an Xbox 2 just for Too Human. Damn you Silicon Knights. So long for me wanting to work for you...

Oh yeah, and where's that Nintendo store in Japan at? I know it's in a Panasonic building...

Peanut

02-09-2005, 03:04 PM

Owned! Nintendo just keeps getting bitch slapped.

ThirdMarioBro

02-09-2005, 04:42 PM

Well, looks like I'll be picking up an Xbox 2 just for Too Human.

*chokesonfood*

You gotta be kidding. I gotta take a break from all this.

*goes to play Rush 2049*

*edit*

Gwg, this is why I said working in the gaming industry is a bad idea. At one point you're doing what you love, then the suits and cooperate BS steps in and all of a sudden you're doing something you hate and there's no way out. It's a crappy cycle, and I want no part of it.

This pisses me off. Once again a developer sweet talks Nintendo ot of their secrets and then runs off to use them on another platform for fast cash. Makes me want to puke. The quality of the other games goes up because Nintendo willingly is stupd enough to train people who they know are going to run off to their competation and compete to smother them. Nintendo is so damn stupid. Sometimes I question my faith. What kind of company teaches other people how to kill them?

*edit again*

Here is my interview I did with Dylan Cuthbert about Star Fox and his work with Nintendo. Enjoy. :)

http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=4203

Kid Icarus

02-09-2005, 11:15 PM

Well, it WAS Nintendos fault for not outright purchasing Silicon Knights.

Lets face it, Ninty makes amazing games... but they're pretty much braindead in the buisness world.

ThirdMarioBro

02-09-2005, 11:42 PM

*sigh* So am I about the only person in this thread with no intention of buying an Xbox product? :(

Barkworm

02-09-2005, 11:44 PM

*sigh* So am I about the only person in this thread with no intention of buying an Xbox product? :(
Me neither, but I'm buying Sony stuff. :evilgrin:

ThirdMarioBro

02-09-2005, 11:45 PM

*ignores above post* :D ;)

Kid Icarus

02-10-2005, 12:11 AM

Well, i'd find a way to obtain the game... without owning the system, or paying for the software... but i'm not allowed to speak of such things on here ;).

Mecha Cow

02-10-2005, 12:17 AM

Unless either Sony or Microsoft come up with something that will totally blow my mind (Which I very much doubt), I'll be sticking to just Nintendo. So you're not the only one.

Nice interview btw. I see you asked my question too. :D

Barkworm

02-10-2005, 12:18 AM

Ugh. I wish people wouldn't do that kind of stuff. In the end it only hurts the gamers.

ThirdMarioBro

02-10-2005, 12:29 AM

Kid Icarus

02-10-2005, 01:54 AM

Awesome interview...

So they made Star Fox when they were only 20? Damn... I'll be that old in August, and I don't even know C++ yet XD. Looks like I've got some catching up to do.

Peanut

02-10-2005, 02:35 AM

Ugh. I wish people wouldn't do that kind of stuff. In the end it only hurts the gamers.

True that my brother Barkworm!

On another note, I also hope none of you buy anything Xbox, YOU DON'T DESERVE IT!

Mecha Cow

02-10-2005, 05:46 AM

Or don't care about it.

Peanut

02-10-2005, 06:12 AM

Wow, someone needs to learn to take a joke. :roll:

Mecha Cow

02-10-2005, 07:22 AM

Ah, so when I reply with an honest statement that is in no way offensive or agressive, it means I have no sense of humor. Gotcha.

Maybe someone needs to relax.

Barkworm

02-10-2005, 07:35 AM

Maybe everyone needs to change the topic.

02-10-2005, 10:04 AM

A lot of tension in the video game section these days. I blame myself, for being such a jerk about this stuff.

A change of topic is needed, indeed.

ThirdMarioBro

02-10-2005, 12:39 PM

Agreed. I'm tired of fighting over this junk....

Let's see here....ha ha, some dirt!
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Nintendo, Elpida Talk Revolution February 10, 2005

by: Matt Saunderson

Elpida could be Nintendo's DRAM chip supplier for the Revolution.

Yukio Sakamoto, the Chief Executive of Elpida Memory Inc., the world's 5th largest DRAM chip supplier has confirmed to Reuters that his company is in talks with Nintendo about supplying DRAM chips for its next videogame console, the Revolution.

The news comes just as Elpida Memory announces that it will be supplying Sony with DRAM chips for its next PlayStation console along with Toshiba and Samsung.

Nothing is finalized between Elpida Memory and Nintendo yet. According to Sakamoto the final decision is up to Nintendo.

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I wonder how much RAM the thing will have in the end....

Mecha Cow

02-10-2005, 01:50 PM

Alright, sorry Peanut, I was joking as well and your response kinda struck a wrong nerve. No more fighting.

And what is a DRAM chip?

JameO

02-10-2005, 01:59 PM

02-10-2005, 03:04 PM

Alright, sorry Peanut, I was joking as well and your response kinda struck a wrong nerve. No more fighting.

And what is a DRAM chip?

From what I understand, a DRAM chip is similar to the RAM you have in your computer, but the DRAM is built for a special purpose other than your computer. It's simply memory where data is temporarily stored so it can be accessed easily. These are especially important for games that load "on-the-fly."

ThirdMarioBro

02-10-2005, 03:51 PM

Well I am need of some assistance. I can't seem to find a magazine article or newspaper article online about the DS and all of it's specs. If anyone can help me it will be greatly appreciated. I thought we had one on Anarky's drome but I could not find it. Any article from a magazine or newspaper scanned will work. Thanks again!

Ta da!
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Launch Date and MSRP: Nov. 21, 2004, in North America ($149.99), Dec. 2, 2004, in Japan (¥15,000). Q1 2005 in Europe and Australia

Size (when closed): 148.7 millimeters (5.85 inches) wide, 84.7 millimeters (3.33 inches) long, 28.9 millimeters (1.13 inches) tall

Top Screen: A backlit, 3-inch, semitransparent reflective TFT color LCD with 256 x 192 pixel resolution and .24 mm dot pitch, capable of displaying 260,000 colors

Touch Screen: Same specs as top screen, but with a transparent analog touch screen

Wireless Communication: IEEE 802.11 and Nintendo's proprietary format; wireless range is 30 to 100 feet, depending on circumstances; multiple users can play multiplayer games using just one DS Game Card

Controls: Touch screen, embedded microphone for voice recognition, A/B/X/Y face buttons, plus control pad, L/R shoulder buttons, Start and Select buttons

Input/Output: Ports for both Nintendo DS Game Cards and Game Boy Advance Game Paks, terminals for stereo headphones and microphone

Other features: Embedded PictoChat software that allows up to 16 users to chat at once; embedded real-time clock; date, time and alarm; touch-screen calibration

CPUs: One ARM9 (67Mhz) and one ARM7 (33Mhz) = Total 100Mhz

Sound: Stereo speakers providing virtual surround sound, depending on the software

Battery: Lithium ion battery delivering six to 10 hours of play on a four-hour charge, depending on use; power-saving sleep mode; AC adapter

Languages: English, Japanese, Spanish, French, German, Italian

Color: Silver and black
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Is that what you needed?

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WHAT THE HELL?

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DSA First: Nintendo is extending it's Metroid franchise to the Pinball market for a new DS title.

Today's EBGames release date update has indicated the public to the existence of a new first-party title for the Nintendo DS; Metroid Pinball DS.

As usual, details surrounding the game were limited to the title, developer, and publisher. However, information regarding this title should begin to emerge in the next few months.

Thursday's update also brought with it some much anticipated information. On it's new release date page, EBGames has listed dates for Nintendogs as well as Touch Kirby . Check out our list of coming titles to see the most up to date information regarding the release of DS titles.

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Okay, at first I thought this was dumb as hell, then now that I thin about it, it could work. Samus as a Morph Ball could be genius pinball if done, but they should NOT use the Mario Pinball engine. It sucked ass. Use something new. This could be great fun if done right. Alongside Metroid Hunters, it's going to be a good Metroid year. If they screw this up though, I'm not touching it.

JameO

02-10-2005, 09:08 PM

Are you able to get me the site or a site with an article on it? Thanks alot man! Gotta do this stupid presentation tommorow for 5 minutes on computer technology so why not the DS!

Barkworm

02-11-2005, 12:11 AM

What's up with all the Pinball games? STOP!

ThirdMarioBro

02-11-2005, 12:48 AM

Are you able to get me the site or a site with an article on it? Thanks alot man! Gotta do this stupid presentation tommorow for 5 minutes on computer technology so why not the DS!

Those specs came from IGN

http://ds.ign.com/articles/549/549922p1.html?fromint=1

If you're looking for some DS editorials, then I recomend this place.

http://ds.advancedmn.com/

Why? Because they have assloads of good information, staffed by people who actually care about what they write about (unlike IGN), and I work there :D. Links to editorials is here.

http://ds.advancedmn.com/articles.php?section=8

Hardware Review

http://ds.advancedmn.com/articles.php?section=12

Hope that helps :)

JameO

02-11-2005, 06:07 AM

Thanks alot man!

Kid Icarus

02-11-2005, 09:47 AM

Pinball games sell in Japan Barkworm... so of course they're gonna make 'em.

This might just be the thing Nintendo needs to warm Japanese gamers up to Metroid.

ThirdMarioBro

02-11-2005, 12:53 PM

You're welcome JameO :)

Yeah, they've been trying for eons to get Metroid to appeal to Japan. At least it's not a Metroid Pakichnio machine *shudder*. This actually sounds fun. Can't wait to bounce the morph ball off the giant score sucking Metroid bumpers.

Demented Utrom

02-11-2005, 03:20 PM

Pinball is dead in the arcades and on home consoles.Most game companys are releasing their old arcade games on home consoles now.

02-11-2005, 03:21 PM

Not in Japan, they're not. Pinball thrives over there. I still love pinball games. That reminds me of the Maki Goto PV "Yokohama Shinkirou." This girl plays a pinball game called "China Town." It's her singing inside the machine. It's pretty cool. :D

JameO

02-11-2005, 03:30 PM

I still play Pokemon Pinball sometimes on Gameboy Color. Good game.

Demented Utrom

02-11-2005, 03:33 PM

In North America they are.Most of the Arcades are dead also.

Peanut

02-11-2005, 03:35 PM

Is Nintendo going to turn every franchise into a pinball game?

Demented Utrom

02-11-2005, 03:39 PM

Pinball sucks go back to the 2D style games for most of the games mentioned.There has not been a decent metroid game since Super Metroid.

Dinny

02-11-2005, 03:42 PM

There has not been a decent metroid game since Super Metroid.

Super Metroid may be a great game but what about Metroid Prime or Metroid Prime 2 Echoes? And First Hunt is shaping up to be a great game aswell.

Mecha Cow

02-11-2005, 04:00 PM

Metroid Fusion and Metroid Zero Mission were both excellent games as well.

02-11-2005, 04:04 PM

Dude, every Metroid game is sweet. There are no exceptions. The concept and gameplay has stayed the same throughout the series, and I wouldn't have it any other way. 3D Metroid was done so perfectly, I couldn't even believe it.

Peanut

02-11-2005, 04:06 PM

Shredder Utrom is a troll, just ignore his posts.

ThirdMarioBro

02-11-2005, 06:48 PM

Mario Pinball was stupid. The idea was great because of all the powerup potential, but the engine and physics are flawed.

Sonic Pinball on the other hand had excellent physics and played off many elements of the franchise which made it an enjoyable offshoot. I have high hopes for Pac-Man Pinball (GBA) as well. Metroid Pinball on the other hand could damn well kick ass. The Morph ball would actually make sense as a pinball, and there are so many elements that could be played up it's unbelieveable. Nintendo can make a KICKASS pinball game if they try, and if they give it to the team that did Galactic Pinball for Virtual Boy (ignore the system, the game would have kicked ass anywhere), then this sucker is gold. Just can the idiots that did Mario Pinball. It sucked. This game could be excellent though. I mean, the simple fact that the DS has two screens means we can see the whole table at once. That alone makes a reason to buy this. No more scrolling. ANyways, I'm going to drop it til we know more about the game. I want Wario Ware. But to other buisness.....

New Nintnedo of Japan trademark.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/what-is-v-pocket-20050210115732211.jpg

Now, IGN missed some things. That is the Nintendo DS font. Soooo, what is this for. Any speculation?

02-11-2005, 09:43 PM

A lot of those Nintendo-themed pinball games were pretty good for the most part. I loved Kirby Pinball and Pokémon Pinball. Sonic Spinball was a great game, too. I remember having Pinball for NES back in the day. Man, those were the days...

And about V-Pocket...I have no damn clue. What could it mean, really? V-Pocket. When I see the V, I think "virtual" for some reason.

Kid Icarus

02-11-2005, 11:41 PM

Pokemon Pinball kicked so much ass it wasn't even funny. That game had me more addicted then Red Version did, way back when. And it had rumble (that took an AAA battery >_>).

Licensed video on the DS, to combat the PSP's multimedia functions even more. Use the Play-yan for music, use the other for official licensed video that won't suffer from scratched discs.

But you forgot one of them, TMB. PCGP.

My hope? Online Pokemon EX Trading Card Game. The last P? Players. Pokemon Card Game Players Club is Pokemon Lab's version of our own Pokemon Organized Play (Pokemon Labs make the TCG, Pokemon USA then translates and distributes the cards world wide. Pokemon Labs:Nintendo of Japan, Pokemon USA:Nintendo of America). An online, portable, Pokemon TCG would be SO much fun. Too bad the e-reader doesn't work on the DS, or else the game would easily topple Magic: Online. But a real pack of Pokemon cards, scan in the bar code (they recently took off of cards. EX:Dragon was the last to have them.) and you get 4 copies of the card on your game. And the DS has proved it can do card games well. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

In North America they are.Most of the Arcades are dead also.
1. Nintendo is a JAPANESE company. They always have, and always will, design games for the Japanese market first, and the other markets second.

2. Japan has a thriving arcade scene, which as Ai pointed out includes pinball games.

ThirdMarioBro

02-12-2005, 12:23 AM

Yeah, when an arcade game like Virtua Fighter comes out it's like mass slaughter in the streets to play the game. Same for Soul Caliber II. Over here the arcade response was like "Oh yeah, that's cool". Over there it was like "GIVE ME A TURN YOU SON OF A B*TCH *handgun shots*". Arcades are a way of life over there. In fact, most new arcade games in the few remaining US arcades are importing machines from Japan.

Pokemon Pinball kicked MAJOR ass. I hope those people develop Metroid Pinball. That, and I want lots of classic music. Pinball titles are like celebrational franchise partys. Metroid is finally big and mainstream enough to warrent one. That makes me happy.

Kid Icarus

02-12-2005, 12:36 AM

Around three months till E3...

Gah. Thankfuly I've got my Pokemon tournaments to keep me busy. Gotta find a new venue for states, 'cause I'm thinkin' some stuff's gonna go down this Sunday.... >_>. Ack. Oh well, my tournament got mentioned in the paper here which is free advertisment! w00t! :D.

02-12-2005, 08:06 AM

You're lucky to still have Pokémon TCG tournaments. That card game disappeared around here a long time ago. I'd love to play again, at least for fun. I still need to find my deck. It's probably so outdated with the old cards. :lol:

ThirdMarioBro

02-12-2005, 09:31 AM

Yeah, I used to play Yugioh and some Pokemon TGC a little while back but everything just died out, and there were absolutely no good players around here, so I just kinda quit. Sad really. I had some kickass decks. I need to get into online gaming or somethin.

Barkworm

02-12-2005, 12:05 PM

Looky! A few pics from the upcoming new Kirby game for DS:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v188/barkworm/kirbyds.jpg
It's called "Touch! Kirby: Mahou no Efude". That's all the info I have though.

Kid Icarus

02-12-2005, 08:44 PM

Ai and TMB, give me info, and I can find you guys some Pokemon Leauges to go to. See, I'm also a Professor (just 3 more events after tommrow until I can get my lab coat XD!), so I've gotta help you guys spend mone.... I mean, train your Pokemon so you can become the master trainer! lol.

Seriously, there's big events EVERYWHERE. And Ai, your in Jersey right? I KNOW they've got crazy ammounts of Organized play.

http://www.op.pokemon-tcg.com

check that linky there out.

I'm gonna STFU now though, before I start sounding like an adbot.

ThirdMarioBro

02-13-2005, 12:47 AM

I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma. There's not much going on down here sadly :(

New News on NIntendo V Pocket!
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According to rampant rumors running around the internet, several sources including GamerCentric.com are reporting that the "Nintendo V-Pocket" trademark concerns licensing for planned PDA organizer tools for the Nintendo DS.

One explanation for this includes Nintendo's recent licensing of Palm OS based PDA software, without any given explanation for the creation. These sources have claimed that the actual reality of the "Nintendo V-Pocket" came from the mouths of Nintendo sources themselves. According to them, the expansive software is an attempt to increase the DS' functionality.

Stay tuned for more on these developments, as the Advanced Media Network will definitely be keeping their eyes open for further updates.

Thanks to GCA Staffer, I?Neo for the heads-up.
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Hell yeah, PDA on the DS would kick major ass. I hope this comes out soon ;D

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POSSIBLE REVOLUTION BETA SPECS LEAK
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Revolution will have a custom 64 bit IBM CPU clocked at 3.6 GH
a combination of 400 MB of RAM
an ATI custom GPU based on R520 architecture with 610 MH engine clock and 680 MH memory clock
HD-DVD format for its mediums
backward compatible with gamecube games
built in HDD
connectivity with next nintendo portable game device (i think gameboy evolution)
gyro based controllers

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Now, this is supposed to come from a man whose uncle works within Nintendo. No clue as to truth, but I'm hoping the HD-DVD format they use is Blu-Ray. Yeah, Sony's using it, but Panasonic is too, and Panasonic is in bed with Nintendo, so it'd hurt Sony's big pulls twords new media formats. Who knows if this is true, but it sounds good.