The Nintendo Discussion Thread

[Cure]

You had one and got rid of it? Someone ban this fool!

Yeah, I feel stupid for it. My little cousin Erika wanted one so I sold it to her for $20. I felt bad for her cuz she hardly has any friends....so, yeah.

EDIT: I was gonna give it to her, but she offered to pay.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I bought my sister a pink one, then I just gave her my old white Lite (still in mint condition) because the pink one was just too hawt.

[Mr. Snackpants]

So I went to get RE4 for the Wii today because I never had a GC. I couldn't find it anywhere. It wasn't at Gamestop, Walmart, or Meijer. Didn't this thing come out on Tuesday?

[Peanut]

You gotta give third-party games on a Nintendo console at least a day or two, dude. You'll usually get the big Nintendo stuff on the day of release, but most other stuff is generally late. It'll show up eventually.

[Brodie]

RE4 on Wii got a 9.1 on Gamespot. Not to shabby.

[Barkworm]

A two year old game with added waggle functionality??!! Count me in!!!

[Dr. Doom]

I'm enjoying it so far. And it's only 30 bucks new.

Also, it's worth noting that this is my first RE game ever. So it seems like a good point for new players to jump on.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://gonintendo.com/?p=20137

New Prime 3 info.

[Dr. Doom]

zomg spoilarz

[Kendamu]

Well, it will have to work pretty hard to beat Twilight Princess in my book, but that's just my opinion. I know how you guys feel, so please don't start.

Its good to know that the touch screen seemingly hasn't broken the game, though I wish they would have included D-Pad support as well. I feel more and more like the next Nintendo handheld won't have a D-Pad.

Anyway, here's looking forward to a kick-ass Zelda I can take to bed with me.
Nah. Even the Wii has a D-Pad and it's used for other things besides Virtual Console games.

[April]

I bought my sister a pink one, then I just gave her my old white Lite (still in mint condition) because the pink one was just too hawt.

Ahahaha. Uh, marry me?
I'm pretty sure Peanut secretly wants my pink one as well, but he's just too manly to admit to it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

You write the vows, I'll rent the church and find a divorce lawyer for when you get sick of me.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Ladies and gentlemen the real fun begins at Smash Bros Dojo

Zelda's Profile (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html)

That is one NICE model.

[Barkworm]

Woah! Neat!

[Kendamu]

Ladies and gentlemen the real fun begins at Smash Bros Dojo

Zelda's Profile (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html)

That is one NICE model.
Sweet! I can't wait for this!

[Mecha Cow]

Saw it just now. Didn't see it coming at all, what a great update. I'm guessing we will get a glimpse of her moveset later this week. I don't expect Sheik to return, as (s)he has no place in the TP setting and has in all likelihood been replaced by Zero Suit Samus.

[Peanut]

Awesome! I figured we'd have to deal with seeing the profiles for all the announced characters before they got into newer stuff. Definitely like Zelda's newer TP-ish look.

[Cure]

I'm glad she's back. I agree with Mecha, I doubt Sheik will be returning, but am glad nonetheless.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, that's what I'm hoping. Zelda was pretty bad-ass in Twilight Princess with her light arrows and sword.

[Dr. Doom]

I wouldn't see any point in "replacing" any characters, nor why "replacing" Sheik with Zero suit Samus would make any sense as a statement. I don't think they'd remove Sheik, just because it was a huge part of Zelda's gameplay. If they do, they'll have to change her up a bit, and the fact that it's TP Zelda certainly makes that look more possible, but you have to remember, this game isn't exactly canon or anything. If they wanna keep Sheik, they will, regardless of whether or not it'd fit the "story". Who knows, maybe Zelda and Sheik will be seperate characters even. I just wouldn't see any point in removing anyone. It seems like it'd be in their best interest to keep everyone they've already made in order to maximize the number of playable characters.

[Peanut]

I'd say she very well may still transform in Sheik, if they keep her move-set similar. If they've decided to rethink her, then I'd say Sheik is gone. As far as Zero Suit Samus replacing Sheik, I don't know how that would work, unless Samus will be able to "transform" into Zero Suit Samus, and Zelda will no longer transform in Sheik. I guess that's kind of like a replacement. Either way...I think Zero Suit Samus was the stupidest thing they could have possibly added to the game. A complete waste of a roster space. As if the numerous clones weren't bad enough.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Sheik needs to go bye-bye. This game needs to have some originality, and not just throw in all the old characters and tweak their move sets. Melee featured Ocarina/Majora stylized characters, so Sheik was a timely addition. Brawl should use Wind Waker/Twilight Princess stylized characters, and their move sets should reflect recent history. I for one would love to see Zelda get her sword fighting groove on, and for TP Link to have a Down+B where he transforms into a Wolf and goes ape-sh*t.

The games needs to stand out from each other, otherwise this is just a deluxe edition of Melee.

[Dr. Doom]

I fail to see how including things from the last game would rob this game of it's originality. Whether or not Sheik or Falco or Ganondorf or Roy or whoever is there is not the issue, it's just what they do with them. They can bring everyone back without ruining the ingenuity of the game.

I definitely want to see Wolf Link in there in some for or another.

[愛]

Sheik needs to go bye-bye. This game needs to have some originality, and not just throw in all the old characters and tweak their move sets. Melee featured Ocarina/Majora stylized characters, so Sheik was a timely addition. Brawl should use Wind Waker/Twilight Princess stylized characters, and their move sets should reflect recent history. I for one would love to see Zelda get her sword fighting groove on, and for TP Link to have a Down+B where he transforms into a Wolf and goes ape-sh*t.

The games needs to stand out from each other, otherwise this is just a deluxe edition of Melee.

Yeah, you're dumb. Why wouldn't they keep the old characters when a lot of people are used to Melee? It wouldn't make sense to force people to learn how to use new characters, when the original to Melee was an upgrade. I agree with the Wind Waker, though. Not Twilight Princess. That game was good, but....I hate the wolf.

And for the record, I play as Sheik.

[Dr. Doom]

There really isn't much sense in taking anything away from Melee, as long as they focus on adding an acceptable amount of new stuff (even from what little we've seen, I'd say that's the case so far).

But yeah, Wolf Link has to be in there in some form.

[Mecha Cow]

I say 'replace' because

A) it would make no sense to have TP Zelda transform into OoT Sheik (I think it would be foolish to write the change in design off as merely a cosmetic update, I very much doubt the developers would not have taken the discrepancy into account had they intended to keep the Sheik character)

and B) Zero Suit Samus has been confirmed to be a transformation of Samus (ie. a 'bonus' character like Sheik), and as shown by the game's 2nd trailer, has several of Sheik's moves (Not to mention a similar whip/chain weapon).

It would be the same as 'replacing' Young Link with WW Link or Ness with the Mother 3 protagonist (I'm speculating).

Sheik is one of my best Melee characters so hopefully I'm correct, and I believe I am. I would prefer this setup anyway, because regular Samus is actually a good character, unlike Zelda (In Melee at least).

I hope they don't ruin Link with a sh*tty wolf transformation, but like I think I've mentioned before I wouldn't mind seeing Wolf Link/Midna as a seperate character.

[Peanut]

As much as I disliked Wolf Link in TP, I think giving Link a transformation Down+B move would be cool. Because...really...who actually uses Link's bomb move, or even the boomerang? His move-set isn't the greatest, just a bunch of random, and weak, projectile crap.

And Mecha, is it confirmed that ZS Samus is a transformation of Samus? I sure hope so, because the roster is already filled with characters who don't need to be there, we don't need another one.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, if you guys want to play the same game again, knock yourselves out. I want some originality here; not just the same moves carried over with new character models and a few new faces.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/Nicky0836/funnyps3.jpg

I lol'd.

[Mecha Cow]

And Mecha, is it confirmed that ZS Samus is a transformation of Samus?
Yes. It was mentioned on the SSBB promo website, before it switched to its current layout (When it had profiles on all the new characters, including Snake). Her character profile said that she wasn't truly a new character, but that Samus would shed her Power Suit 'under certain circumstances'.

What those circumstances are is anyone's guess, though some have speculated that the transformation occurs after Samus performs her Final Smash (The first trailer seems to hint at this). That would seem kind of strange to me, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Actually, that sounds dead-n accurate. Nice analysis Mecha.

http://i14.tinypic.com/61kl2cm.jpg

Anybody who says that looks like a GameCube game is goddamned blind. Beautiful. Definitely worth the delay.

[Mecha Cow]

That's looking pretty good, though I'm not a fan of Metroid Prime. What's up with Samus' armor in the first shot?

[Cure]

I for one would love to see Zelda get her sword fighting groove on,


I wouldn't like that. Too many sword characters already with Link, Meta Knight, and Pit ALREADY confirmed, and a character from Fire Emblem is possible as well. Zelda was the only magic user in Melee and it should stay that way unless they add more magic users.

[Dr. Doom]

Well, you can already see Zelda there, and she doesn't have a sword. So I wouldn't count on it.

Asd far as Fire Emblem goes, there have been some really awesome characters in some of the other games released here since Melee came out. I think there's some wonderful opportunities therein, so hopefully they won't just stick to Marth and Roy, great as they are.

Double post for great justice.

Maybe there is hope for Shiek. The official site just posted a kick ass medley of OoT from the game. http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/music04.html

[Barkworm]

That's a nice medley alright but why can't Nintendo orchestrate their music for once?

[ThirdMarioBro]

I love it when they post the song demo recordings. It'll make me appreciate the orchestrated final versions SO much more.

I just can't see brown-haired TP Zelda turning into Sheik. It makes little sense, although I guess Smash Bros isn't exactly meant to make sense.

*edit*

Holy SH*T that song is going to sound good orchestrated. When it faded out I started cursing. I WANT TO HEAR MORE DAMMIT!

You've got to remember though, those ocarina songs are now more series legacy than actually Ocarina-specific.

[Barkworm]

I love it when they post the song demo recordings. It'll make me appreciate the orchestrated final versions SO much more.
Wait, so the soundtrack will be orchestrated? Fully? Is this confirmed?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Definitely. Sakuri confirmed a looooong time ago that the whole soundtrack will have a full orchestra with a Latin choir at the disposal of the full composition team, which is apparently a hell'va lot of people. These are the demo version they are posting now, and the finals will be orchestrated later this year near the final stages of development. The E3 version likely won't have any orchestrated tracks though. Its usually the last thing they do on a project of this scale.

[Dr. Doom]

Are you sure that wasn't just Uematsu's theme song from the trailer? Cause I was just expecting that these samples we were hearing were what we were getting, and was perfectly happy with it.

[Barkworm]

Could you post a source, TMB? Not that I don't trust you but... I don't trust you. ;)

[ThirdMarioBro]

The quote came from him around the time the game was announced, thus most all of the transcript links I can find are from the day after they unveiled the game last year. I know he said it though because I heard him say it. I was in the press room of their booth the night of the first day of E3 where he dropped the bomb. Heard it with my own ears.

While it is unknown if Uematsu will compose the game’s entire soundtrack, it can be confirmed that all of the game’s music will be performed by a full orchestra. It will be a deluxe chorus complete with lyrics in Latin.

http://www.wiiplus.net/article.php?articleId=17&page=1

http://www.gamersmark.com/news/2006/05/1/7877

http://www.projectcoe.com/nintendo/games/ssbb.html?var1=sc4

http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=6422

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=11513&CFID=26869178&CFTOKEN=331076dad1de6fb-4641D86C-C09F-3E62-05B82ED042AD6970

[Mecha Cow]

Actually, the chorus thing was only for the game's main theme. I highly doubt every song in the game will have Latin lyrics.

I don't think it's been confirmed (Main theme aside), but I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that the game's soundtrack will be orchestrated, though. Melee's was too, wasn't it?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah it was; when they needed it.

[Cure]

Check out one of the weirdest trailers to come out for a game in a while; Mushroom Men. (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/20841.html)

I'm not hyped about the game, but that trailer is just.......odd. And I like the music. :)

[Peanut]

I love how all they did was take the couple pieces of concept art they released about a month ago, then crudely animated them to some banging music.

[Cure]

This is for TMB since he was asking about racing games before.

Good news: Cruis'n coming to Wii. (http://wii.ign.com/articles/800/800090p1.html)

Bad news: It sounds like it's be one of those "buy new things and upgrade your car street racing" clones.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I don't care. If it plays like a point-to-point arcade racer, then that motherfu*ker is sold. I loved the Crusin' games back in the day, and played them with some close friends at our local pizza place every week after they retired the Daytona cabinet. The games were pretty simple (like most Midway racers) point-to-point racers, but they were all fun and had a sense of humor. Crusin' Exotica was the sh*t.

[Cure]

I don't care. If it plays like a point-to-point arcade racer, then that motherfu*ker is sold. I loved the Crusin' games back in the day, and played them with some close friends at our local pizza place every week after they retired the Daytona cabinet. The games were pretty simple (like most Midway racers) point-to-point racers, but they were all fun and had a sense of humor. Crusin' Exotica was the sh*t.

Yeah, I can agree with all points.

[Barkworm]

New Soul Calibur Legends pics. (http://www.gfdata.de/archiv06-2007-gamefront/3177.html)
Copy and paste please.
Some of those pics look worse than GC graphics....

[Mecha Cow]

What is up with that first dude? Is Amano doing designs for this game or what?

[ThirdMarioBro]

I thought it looked fine, but that's just me. *shrugs*

[Mecha Cow]

It does in some screens, doesn't in others. Don't suppose there's a video going around?

*E* Contra 4 screenshots (http://www.1up.com/do/media?cId=3160432&sec=IMAGES). Nice to see some good old-fashioned spritework.

[Peanut]

Listen...SC is terrible. It peaked at II. Now, let's talk about some good games.

With every new screen and every new video I see of Phantom Hourglass, my want for the game grows exponentially. It also makes me dislike TP more and more. Damn Nintendo for going back to the "realistic" style. Even in just over half a year, TP has already begun to age horribly. It looks terrible.

[Mecha Cow]

Wouldn't say it looks terrible, it just looks...brown. Seriously, it's like the only colors in that game are shades of brown, grey, green and yellow. That's not a 'style', that's just boring.

[Dr. Doom]

Yeah, that dude looks like he'd fit in FFXII perfectly.

I love Soul Calibur. ^_^

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com/image.php?external_image=http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com/images/p376/01.jpg

Wii fanboy versus PS3 fanboy.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html

So, has this forum just rolled over and died since those the happy couple left? Fu*k this. Start talking. Now. Because............

The return of classic (as in F-Zero X/GX, not that fu*king anime) Samurai Goro for Smash Bros. Brawl.

& a hammer brother too.

[Dinny]

Like the idea of assist trophies, gives Nintendo a great opportunity to use a whole bunch of characters. They could potentially make the pokeballs less important, unless assist tropies are very rare.

Also Samurai Goro looks badass.

[jeff the cheff]

Cool, a nintendog has a part in smash bros. I've never played a smash bros game. :embarass:

I haven't fed my nintendogs in over a year....I wonder what happened to them.

[Mecha Cow]

That's a really good idea, what a great way to add even more characters to the game. Man, the animators for this game must be working their asses off. It seems to me that these'd make Pokéballs completely redundant though...Don't see why they wouldn't make those into 'Assist Trophies' as well.

Oh, and I guess this pretty much confirms 'regular' trophies are back as well, though I don't think anyone suspected otherwise.

*E* Nooo...This probably means Tingle will be an Assist character...instead of a playable one. :cry:

[Cure]

I like this idea too, but too bad for those that actually wanted Goroh to be playable.

[Dr. Doom]

Perhaps this opens up the possibility that they'll make it so you can only be assisted by trophies you've earned, or something like that. That'd certainly make things interesting.

[Dinny]

Perhaps this opens up the possibility that they'll make it so you can only be assisted by trophies you've earned, or something like that. That'd certainly make things interesting.

I was just thinking this. Seems like a logical step. This also opens up the possibility for certain vehicles to be used as assist trophies, but keeping it limited to characters seems better to me.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The 3D modelers and animators who are working on this game must be working their collective asses off.

[Cure]

What, no love for Bowser? (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/bowser.html)

He looks hardcore, but what interests me the most is that line about most characters being different "flavors". Does that mean in appearance, play style, or both? Because it would be nice to have Bowser actually playable and not just a walking punching bag.

[Mecha Cow]

Play style, probably. I guess the developers realised that Bowser was a terrible character in Melee. I just think it's funny that the description keeps going on about being different yet all the screenshots show Bowser's old attacks. :lol:

[ThirdMarioBro]

He is a worthless character, but there is something they could do to make him fun. I notice his color palette seems to reflect Super Mario World more than anything else. Wario has a mid-special attack where he whips out his motorcycle from Wario Ware. Bowser needs to pull out the coolest Nintendo villain attack vehicle ever.

http://www.lemmykoopa.com/lk19/1630.jpg

Koopa Clown Copter FTW.

[Brodie]

I like when TMB is excited.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html

Giga Bowser...daaaaaaaaamn.

[Ra]

"Daaaaaaaaamn" is too right. I mean...WOW! :o And he is actually playable this time around too and not left to be a Computer Controled Character!! Oh, how I would love to take on everyone with this bad boy. Take THAT Mario! *laughs madly*

[Mecha Cow]

I like, that's a pretty creative Final Smash.

[Cure]

Man, this has been some week for the updates. Getting better and better.

[ThirdMarioBro]

W00T!

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/images/stage05/stage05_070706a-l.jpg

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/images/stage05/stage05_070706c-l.jpg

Okay, that's the hottest sh*t I've seen in a LONG time. Eldin Bridge meets final boss fight of Yoshi's Island. Win.

[Mecha Cow]

I think the first thing I said when I saw that was a loud 'Ugh'. However, aside from my dislike for TP it seems like a pretty cool level, the flat stages are the best. Going by the screenshots it looks like the background pans too, that's pretty nice.

[Dr. Doom]

You smell. TP is awesome. There, I said it.

[Mecha Cow]

You said it, but you are wrong. YOUR MOM smells.

[Cure]

Nights gameplay footage. (http://gonintendo.com/?p=21029)

Looks OK. They're sticking to the Saturn formula, which is a good thing in Sonic Team's case.

[Brodie]

Well, that gave me more reason to keep my Wii.

[Barkworm]

The graphics look good but the video was beyond boring. I actually stopped watching halfway through.

EDIT: http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[R-iZZy]

Man, TP was awesome, one of the best in the series!

The Eldin Bridge stage is gonna be a lot of fun!

[Dinny]

Dr. Wright!!! I love it. There are way too many possible characters for the assist trophies. This could be the biggest fighter ever...

[Mecha Cow]

For a second I thought he was a playable character, that would have been weird as hell. :lol:

[Dinny]

So did I, I checked the assist trophies to make sure. It's because he didn't mention anything in the description about him being an assist trophy.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Interesting article on Gamespot.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6174649.html

"The reality is that the Wii is not expanding the market as much as Nintendo wants us to believe," Goodman said. "According to a publisher I have spoken to, less than 10 percent of Wii buyers did not previously own a console. So basically, Wii growth is coming at the expense of other console manufacturers--mainly Sony--not by expanding the market. It is only once a Wii enters a household that others start using it. Wii Fit will require those 'non-gamers' to go out and buy the board and software, which I'm skeptical of."

I do believe all of those numbers are inflated as hell, but Wii really is epanding the market; just not as quickly as Nintendo would lead us to believe. After a price drop we'll start to see the real growth begin.

And Nintendo is not satisfying their fanbase to the degree that they should. Their lineup is weak, and E3 only wrote that in stone. Mario Galaxy is one of the best games I've ever played. Hell, I'd go as far as to call it the SMB3 of the 3D Marios, but we're past the day that it and a couple others can sustain a core gamer's appetite. We're not kids anymore. We've got money (to some degree, lol), and we want games, and lots of them. We're the people that have been introducing our grandmas and grandpas to Wii Sports, because we bought it at launch, because we were the only ones who knew of the machine at launch.

Now, about Wii Fit not selling because of non gamers's reluctance to buy the board? Yeah right. The moment they get that thing on Oprah, Ellen, or start running commercials on Lifetime, its over, as in "KO Hyper Combo Finish" over.





Now, to other (slightly) late news on today's agenda....Miyamoto? You loose.

Classic Rare DK: (cool, calm, kickass, super hero, full of personality)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/donkeykongcountry2_recensione_gba_c.jpg

Miyamoto's raped rabid ape DK: (crazy, wild eyed, has fetish for American strippers, breaks sh*t)

Old appearance:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/Donkey_Kong_flier_cropped.png
New appearance:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/dk_poser.jpg



and........


Super Smash Bros. Braw's DK: (full modernization of 1994 Rare DK with modern overhaul)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/donkeykong.jpg




Sorry Miyamoto. You loose, we win.

[Mecha Cow]

Is there supposed to be a difference between classic Rare DK and modern Jungle Beat DK? Because there...isn't.

[Barkworm]

Will we ever get a new DK platformer? It pisses me off that even bullsh*t like King of Swing gets a sequel but DKC doesn't.

[Brodie]

Jungle Beat was the closest thing to a new platformer we'd get. And I loved itttttt.

[Barkworm]

I loved it, too but it was a major bomb so we won't see a sequel to that one either.

[Barkworm]

http://www.freeimagehost.eu/image/110754600962
http://www.freeimagehost.eu/image/9aec87600963
Is that Peach?! She looks great!
Oh and the new Smash Bros. update confirms was Mecha suspected.

[Mecha Cow]

Man, Galaxy is one of the prettiest games I've ever seen. I really can't wait to play it.

*E* According to some Japanese-speaking folks at another forum that lady is named Rosetta.

[Dr. Doom]

Whoever it is does look pretty good. As far as the Smash-related thing Mecha was talking about, you mean Zero Suit Samus?

For those who are too lazy to check the site, you turn into Zero Suit Samus by doing Samus' final smash, which is just a huge freakin' energy blast that breaks her power suit.

[Mecha Cow]

Yeah, the Zero Suit Samus thing. I sure hope there will be other ways to play as her though, an involuntarily transformation would really, really blow.

[Dr. Doom]

Yeah, it kinda would.

[Mecha Cow]

I'm guessing there will be though. Seems kind of pointless to add a whole new character to the game just to use it as a side effect of a move that won't even get used very often. They also may a fairly big deal out of her inclusion in the trailer. We'll see I guess.

[Dr. Doom]

Looks like they're trying to fit a storyline into Brawl.

[ThirdMarioBro]

What the hell is up with the latest update?

[Mecha Cow]

Guessing they're scenes from the opening cinema. Don't get what it's supposed to be about though. I don't suppose anyone recognises that...character in the last shot?

[Dr. Doom]

Kinda looks like the Fruit F***er.

[Cure]

Check out this article (http://www.sonicstadium.org/sonicnews/310/) over at Sonic Stadium about Brawl's inclusion in Sonic. It says that on the 26th or 27th we'll know about his inclusion. What do you guys think?

[Dr. Doom]

I think they're just building suspense. They wouldn't bring it up if they really thought it might not happen. He's in. Hopefully we can get Tails and/or Knuckles too. Just please, not Shadow.

[Mecha Cow]

Wouldn't count on Tails or any other characters, but I'd say Sonic is a pretty safe bet.

[R-iZZy]

Haha. Gotta love how Sega's working with Nintendo. It's nothing like old times.

If Sonic is in the game, Link can sure not count on being the most-used character from me anymore.

[Spitfire]

Haha. Gotta love how Sega's working with Nintendo. It's nothing like old times.

If Sonic is in the game, Link can sure not count on being the most-used character from me anymore.

I used to think like that, not about Sonic or Link but I always wanted to be good with Pikachu and I practiced and got good with him for awhile. Then I tried playing as other characters and now all I use is Gandorf because when I use anyone else I do alright but when I use Gandorf I almost never lose.

I really wish the game was online so I could see how good I really am because I can beat all my friends without much trouble and I've yet to meet anyone who can really beat me but that's all local people around in my area I want to play some crazy guy who plays all the time haha.

[ThirdMarioBro]

You see, I know he's in the game. How do I know? Mario & Sonic at the Olympics. Nintendo does trading games like this regularly. Sega gets to use Mario in a Wii Sports knockoff and makes a lot of money by being the first out. Then Nintendo uses Sonic in Smash and....well, they make even more money.

They've done things like this before, just not to this historic of a degree. As for Sonic Stadium calling the date? Bullsh*t.

I say TGS or even after launch. Maybe you'll have to buy the Olympic game to unlock him. I don't know, but he's in the damn game. They were making jokes about it over a year ago.

[bullet]

actually walked into a gamestops today completely nonchalant and they had three wiis left in stock so now i actually got one. it's incredible how these things come to you when you're least looking for them...or expecting them. i've been looking for one for months, since i don't have the patience to wait for a system in line at 4 in the morning.

[Dr. Doom]

Oh great, another Icicle Mountain. :|

[Mecha Cow]

Bastards! Nobody cares about some Donkey Kong level! Just explain that last weird update!

[ThirdMarioBro]

I care. And I hate it. There better be a DKC stage to compensate.

[Barkworm]

Latest update is Yoshi. Time for a newcomer!

[ThirdMarioBro]

Booooooooo! I love Yoshi. And I love him even more now that he's taken a page from Blanka's book and gone cannibal.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/yoshi_070724d-l.jpg

[Mecha Cow]

Never was a fan of that look for Yoshi, but he looks significantly better than he did in Melee.

...But who cares!? Explain last Friday's update!

[Cure]

Never was a fan of that look for Yoshi, but he looks significantly better than he did in Melee.

...But who cares!? Explain last Friday's update!

:lol: Man, I can tell this is gonna be bothering you for a while.

[Mecha Cow]

Yes, damn it!

:(

*E* Bah, today's update is another floating platforms stage...

[Barkworm]

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=conewsstory&refer=conews&tkr=7974:JP&sid=aZs6vtlkWPp0

[ThirdMarioBro]

Oh, I know. I'm going to make a killing off of my stock. :)

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr1ju6GoCsY

What in the flying fu*k?!?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Mecha Cow]

Whoa, Toad is pretty well hung for such a little guy.

[Cure]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr1ju6GoCsY

What in the flying fu*k?!?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ghost sperm! Luigi's voice was weird.

[Dr. Doom]

XD!!!! Luigi!

[Barkworm]

Viva Pinata coming for Nintendo DS! (http://kotaku.com/gaming/comic-con-07/viva-pinata-ds-announced-283699.php)

[Ra]

Viva Pinata for the DS? Sounds promising. I'll probably get it if it looks promising enough for me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr1ju6GoCsY

What in the flying fu*k?!?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
What the hell did they do to Luigi's voice?! :lol:

[Barkworm]

Some people actually believe this was made by Nintendo...

[愛]

Oh, thank GOD this game is coming for DS. I was never able to play the 360 version, and I kept hearing so many good things about it. I'll definitely pick that game up when it comes out.

[Cure]

So what do you guys think of DK's final smash? (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/donkeykong.html#3rd)

Personally, I was hoping it would be him just going APE-sh*t (get it?! haha) and beatin' people senselessly.

[Barkworm]

Being a big fan of Jungle Beat, I'm all for this move.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Being a royal hater of DK Jungle Beat, I'm mad as hell.

Seriously, Rare games on DS, then DK gets back his fu*king Namco bongos. Dammit.

[Brodie]

I don't understand how you can hate Jungle Beat.

I bet you play Guitar Hero with the controller, too.

[Barkworm]

TMB = Loser:

Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
___________________________

Graphics/Presentation 9.5
This one is one the top level of Graphics in the Gamecube catagory. Honestly, the fur shading absolutely kills Star Fox Adventures. There are prettier, but not many. The big DK in the lower left corner makes for some funky animations and is cool to look at. Never drops under 60FPS. Absoulte beauty to look at.

Sound 9.5
I've heard better in the DK series, but still, each song fits it's area very well. The underwater music is quite ambient, and just hearing the good ole DKC theme brings a tear to my eye after all these years. All of DK's new voice clips are just funny as hell. It makes me laugh just to hear him yell. The thumping noises of the punching and the bongos is nice, loud, and rattles my surround sound. Kickass bass. All in all, the sound is almost completely perfect for this game.

Gameplay 9.6
The only thing keeping this sucker from a 10 is the length, but I write that off because there's so many ways to enjoy this game. The combo system is so deep that you can practically combo and chain through a whole level. And for the bongos, they are a freaking blast. Honestly, I haven't laughed this hard when playing a game since forever. It's a total joy to play. No story whatsoever other than DK wants to be king of all the relms, and beats the royal sh*t out of everything in his path. Just the way I like it. Walking, running, stunning, and pummeling is all a Brease and a joy to control. It takes almost no time to learn at all, and you get good fast. It's a new and unique experience that is a thrill to play and enjoy.

Overall 9.5
For their first work to boot, Nintendo's Tokyo Studio has truly impressed me. I still wish it was longer, but like I said, who cares. The replay in absurdly outragious, and the game is just so much fun you'll be laughing the whole way through. Play this baby and have a blast. It's one of the most unique titles this generation.

THUMP THE MONKEY!!!!

Did I mention that TMB is a loser? I rest my case.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://www.goodcowfilms.com/farm/games/segabase_archives/SegaBase%20-%2032X_files/SNES-DonkeyKongCountry(U).jpg > http://smashbrothersonline.com/GameBoxes/DonkeyKongJungleBeatbox.jpg


I'm sorry, but I prefer to play my DK with a controller, not slap my hands raw. I also prefer to not have my DK drowning in fruity Japanese flower power. And am I the only one who finds it amusing that DK can't even use his Final smash on DK Jungle falls without being killed by the scrolling stage?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/lockedk.gif

[Barkworm]

Oh come on, DKC is a piece of crap compared to Jungle Beat. I used to love it but most of the game is completely uninspired (the boss encounters in the game are some of the lamest in any game). The DKC sequels are fantastic but the first one is NOT.

And aren't you going to say anything about that awesome review of yours?! :lol:

[ThirdMarioBro]

What review?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/dk2.jpg > http://smashbrothersonline.com/GameBoxes/DonkeyKongJungleBeatbox.jpg


That's better.

[Barkworm]

What review?
Your Jungle Beat review from two years ago. The one I posted like two posts above yours? The one in which you say Jungle Beat is super-awesome? :lol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/dk2.jpg > http://smashbrothersonline.com/GameBoxes/DonkeyKongJungleBeatbox.jpg


That's better.

Agreed!

[Brodie]

He's like Paris Hilton, he doesn't pay attention.

I really wonder if TMB reads other posts..

[ThirdMarioBro]

No, I skimmed over it thinking it was someone else's review because I saw the words "thump the monkey" and immediately assumed that I wasn't capable of writing such an ignorant and completely contradictory statement.

Now I will promptly see to killing myself.

[Brodie]

Can I have your 360 games, then?

[Barkworm]

No, I skimmed over it thinking it was someone else's review because I saw the words "thump the monkey" and immediately assumed that I wasn't capable of writing such an ignorant and completely contradictory statement.

Now I will promptly see to killing myself.
LOOOOL!!!
Wait till I quote the review in which you say "Metroid Prime: Hunters" is the best portable game EVER. Then you can kill yourself!

[ThirdMarioBro]

No, then I will kill my unborn children, followed by myself. Sweet Jesus, what the hell was I drinking?

[愛]

Tequila will do that to you. The stuff's suicide. Hunters makes me wanna die.

[Barkworm]

Here it is, I highlighted the best parts:

Metroid Prime Hunters:
-------------------------
Graphics: 9.5

Okay, I know it seems like a given, but stop and look at how beautiful this thing is. See it running on a DS Lite, and you may stop for a second and question if this is really DS software, or FMV. It's unbelieveable. People compare DS visuals of the DS to N64, and that's bullsh*t. This sucker can crank way past that. The ole' N64 had a sh*tty rendering engine that could do a lot, but would choke on framerate every time it did it. DS shows how many years have passed, because it's processors are actually slower combined, but the graphics chip is so damn capable, this sucker can pull the full Metroid Prime engine at obviously lower resolution which a portable can get away with and you not notice. Only problem I had was that enemies in the distance are hard to see/shoot at, but I soon realized that was the fault of the screen brightness. DS Lite will solve that problem.

Control: 9.0
I hated the thumbstrap when I used it with SM64. Never touched it since. Well, I now see why it was packed in. Once you adjust to the lack of cheapo "Lock on", you see that this actually controls better than Metroid Prime. Be warned, the learning curve is steep, but I adore this setup. This is pretty much like Keyboard/mouse FPS control except with a Nintendo D-Pad rather than a sh*tty keyboard's arrow keys. Honestly, the level of percision is insane. The sensitivity can be tweaked to your tastes, and the touch screen buttons you need have a very wide hit range. I almost never miss, and can switch from morphball to plasma gun, to missles, and back to running in 3 seconds flat. It's astounding how good they handled the controls. You just have to adjust, that's all.

Sound: 9.0
Other than a couple of "bleh" tracks, if you loved Kenji Yamamoto's previous work, you'll obsess over this one. All hail the return of Super Metroid's omnious Male "voice Ahhs" chanting as you walk into the boiling gates of hell. Outstanding, and the sound effects even track your footsteps, just like Gamecube. Frequence is a little low, but hey, should I complain about 30Khz on a portable? Hell no.

Fun Factor: 9.9
It's no secret that Prime is my favorite Gamecube game, and this sucker plays just like it except with dual "analog/touchscreen" control. People claim that the action is more of the focus, but that is because there is more of it. It was not done at the cost of Metroid's puzzle solving roots, or Morph ball puzzles" , or find "a way to get the damn energy container locked away right in front of you" stuff. :lol:. The action is just better because there is no lock on, and the battles require more skill. You can still avoid most fights though, just like any Metroid title. [B]This is not an "Add On Sequel", or unnecessary game in the series. It is a full blooded Metroid game.

Multiplayer: 8.9
Honestly, i didn't think Nintendo could do FPS this good. Headshots, Chump points, multiple weapons, sniper points, scalable arenas, 25 arenas in all, each of a different type, and respawn points are random to kill "camping" before it starts. Computer scans for a random place nobody is close to and sets you there. 8 different game modes, and dfferent characters with highly varied abilities. And no, rolling into a ball and dropping bombs like crazy won't work. in fact, you'll probobly just get pwnd for it. Only tactful use of the secondary forms in perferrably tight spaces will work. It's very balanced. Yes, people will drop out on you, but they will get marks against them for it, and if you see someone with a high "chump" rating, you can opt out of playing with them and wait for someone else. Now, I'm not a Halo master, but I know what a good FPS should have, and this has it. If it were on a console with 128 bit visuals, people wouldn't fluff this off like they do. It's really astounding how rounded and complete the package is. I'm having a blast. Now, imagine this with Revolution's idea of "point and shoot" and more players at once, and we're got a Halo contender. As it is, this sucker offers a console experience in online multiplayer. Only weakness is the 4 player limitation. Try it. You won't regret it.

Voice Chat: 8.0
Now, for the voice chat. I was expecting police scanner quality due to the nature of the device. What I got instead was near XBL quality sound with headphones or external speakers. Yes, you can only talk between games or when waiting for other opponents, but the ARM7 is only capable of so much at once, and if it had in game voice chat, the thing would lag like hell. It's already being pushed and hammered way past the limit and managing NO slowdown whatsoever. The designers admitted as much. it was not done to "protect children" or anything. We can likely not expect full voice on Revolution. Remember, this is a handheld being maxed out. To have GOOD QUALITy voice chat at all, it a damned fine bounus. I don't mark off for it's limitations.

Overall: 9.7
[b]If you are a Metroid fan, buy this game. If you're a Metroid fan and don't buy it, you will be treated as a heritic and burned at the stake. I'm serious. Best handheld game I've ever played, and stands up to it's console brethern in the art design department, as well as physics, gameplay, puzzles, better action, and sound. The multiplayer is like a whole different game in one card using the same engine. It was worth the delay alone. Graphics aren't Gamecube of course, but it dosen't really show because it runs so well and looks so good. If portable game continue to evolve at this rate, consoles are going to have to start doing something new because simply, DS and PSP are showing that once the visuals advance a little further, there won't be anything they can't do that consoles can.

NOW you can kill yourself!

[Mecha Cow]

Finally a Megaton on the Smash Bros. website: Ike from Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/ike.html)!

I guess this is my cue to actually finish that game.

[Cure]

Finally a Megaton on the Smash Bros. website: Ike from Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/ike.html)!

I guess this is my cue to actually finish that game.

That is one big f*ckin' sword.

[Dr. Doom]

Sweet! Ike is an awesome character! Granted, there are a lot of awesome characters in both of the FE games I've played (1st US GBA and GC), but I guess the lead is really the only one you could expect. It'd be cool if they added Eliwood, Lyn or Hector from the 1st US GBA game, as well, but I guess I won't hold my breath.

[Revan]

Quick question. I'm thinking of getting a new gaming console, either a Wii or an XBox 360. I've heard nothing but bad things about the Wii and all good things about the 360. Any thoughts?

[Jon]

Quick question. I'm thinking of getting a new gaming console, either a Wii or an XBox 360. I've heard nothing but bad things about the Wii and all good things about the 360. Any thoughts?


'Only bad things' about Wii? Strange, I've been enjoying it.

As for X-Box, haven't gotten any of those (original or 360).

[ThirdMarioBro]

Finally a Megaton on the Smash Bros. website: Ike from Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/ike.html)!

I guess this is my cue to actually finish that game.

Ah-ha! Awesome. I know three people who just pissed their pants over this.

[Dr. Doom]

What it comes down to is what game syou want to play. The Wii is going to be offering you a lot of games that you wouldn't get to play on a 360 and vice versa, though there is a small amount of common ground. The controls are also a factor obviously, but the main thing is games, so I'd reccomend just doing some researcha bout which has a selection thta you'd appreciate more. I certainly wouldn't just get a system for the sake of getting one.

Also, you shoudl take into consideration that the Wii si still very hard to find, whereas you could probably walk into any Gamestop or Best Buy or whatever and walk out with a 360 no problem. And then on the other hand, the 360 is more expensive.

[ThirdMarioBro]

That, and all the 360's on the market are currently defective and almost certain to break within 3 years time or less. Wait until Microsoft releases the new Falcon chipset version later this year if you are going that route.

Otherwise, I don't know what to tell you dude. Each machine is so vastly different and the games are all over the place. Here's a tip. Don't ask for advice. All gamers are very passionate about their tastes, and love to bash the opposition. The fact is, both Wii and 360 are first rate consoles with first rare, though vastly different lineups and styles. Take your own tastes into account, and make a decision by yourself. Don't let someone else's tastes choose for you when their taste in games may not line up with your own.



In other news, I have a new CD to import from Japan.

http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/games/articles/0707/24/news073.html

What is this? The Super Mario Sisters? :lol:

[Revan]

I like to play a lot of madden and NCAA football. Some baseball here and there. Basically mostly sports games. some friends told me that the Wii's controls are crap for sports games.

[Dr. Doom]

I'm digging this Fire Emblem stage. By the way, should we maybe just have a separate thread for Smash and sticky it? It's updated every weekday and we talk about it often enough for me to suggest it. I didn't wanna make one if nobody liked the idea, though.

[Mecha Cow]

I don't know if it's necessary since this thread is about all kinds of random crap, but there's certainly enough discussion on the subject to fill a seperate thread. I will start one if the mods think it's a good idea.

[愛]

Go for it. It's not like I'm going to delete or lock a buddy's thread. :P

[Mecha Cow]

Consider it gone for.

[Dr. Doom]

Allo, what's all this then?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6176307.html

[Mecha Cow]

I heard that was supposed to be a new version of the Pokemon Mini (...Lol), or maybe they're just securing future patents. They'd be insane to release a new handheld while the DS is in its prime.

[Jed]

Is anyone else having trouble updating their Wii? I've updated mine at least twice but it just won't get the new update released today. Keeps giving me error code 32004.

[Swany]

Alrighty, this is my first time posting here, Im thinkiing of getting a DSlite and I'm wondering if its worth the money. I'm getting it with 2 games, Pokemon and Transformers (its a package form GAME for £130). Or you can get pokemon and Harry Potter.

I'm really just seeing if its worth it and if its any good.

[Mecha Cow]

If you're into handheld gaming, it's not going to get much better than DS. Pokemon is a really good game (Despite it not having evolved at all in 10 years) and there's plenty of other great games from a wide range of genres. If you play games on a regular basis I'd say a DS is definitely a good investment.

[Cure]

Is anyone else having trouble updating their Wii? I've updated mine at least twice but it just won't get the new update released today. Keeps giving me error code 32004.

Nah, mine updated fine. It took a while, but it was fine.

[Cure]

New Mario Galaxy info. (http://gonintendo.com/?p=22701)

120 stars confirmed. Nice.

[Mecha Cow]

Give me this game now.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Let's hope there aren't any cheap ones (blue coins, collect 100 coins, ect.)

Fire world, ice world, desert world, water world... Ahhhhh, sounds like the good ole' Mario I've missed.

[Brodie]

Missed for....the year or so that came after NSMB came out?

[ThirdMarioBro]

I'm talking about consoles.

[Barkworm]

Every time I see a new screencap of this game I climax.

[Mecha Cow]

Image not found, jerk!

[Dr. Doom]

Cocktease!

[Barkworm]

Oops, they were taken down. But I assure you, those pics were incredible! :D

[Barkworm]

There, I found them for you guys. Join the orgasming!
http://newlevelgaming.blog-city.com/new_super_mario_galaxy_scans.htm

[Kendamu]

I was reading some of the text on those scans. I guess the Butt Stomp's official name is the Hip Drop? Glad to see that it'll be in the game. I wonder if it'll nullify large falls (resulting in no damage) like in SM64.

Anywho, this game is looking more and more beautiful. I can't wait for it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Mario 64 let you air dive to cancel a fall. I missed that in Sunshine. Notice Kamek in those shots? That alone makes it GOTY for me. Boo Mario is also just too cute. I played with Boo Mario at E3. Stupid Nintendo had one of the demo units unlocked for "select media" to get twice as many stages to play. Basically that meant only IGN got the full demo. Fu*k that. I lurked around the demo for a couple of hours on Friday when I had nothing to do, and figured out how to unlock the debug menu and got to play the rest of the stages.

The caught me and scolded me near the time I finished, and I was like....uh, whatever. I win. Bye.

[Jed]

Could someone in the know help me out with connecting my Wii to my HDTV. I know there are a few options for connecting it but which would be the best? Component is supposed to be best but that's how I connect my 360 to my TV so I don't want to keep having to switch connectors, which would be the next best to go for?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Component is the end of the line. Your best bet is a switchbox.

[Peanut]

Yeah, there isn't anything that's going to make any difference aside from component cables. Maybe S-Video, but that's still a stretch.

[Jed]

I was kind of thinking that. Oh well, if it doesn't make much difference I'll stick with what I've got. I might consider component but I doubt it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I found the most funny-ass signature. I was going to use it as my own, but its too big, so I'll just post it for laughs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/1185480975.gif

[Mecha Cow]

It won't be as funny when Reggie, Iwata and Yamaucshkdjsk blow themselves up moments later. :(

[ThirdMarioBro]

EVERYONE, go and watch the Metroid Prime 3 trailers up for download in the Wii Ware channel. The second one contains something unbelievable.

They reveal a big chunk of the back story of Mother Brain, and I believe Kraid (who was modeled, but ultimately left out of the original Prime) is supposed to be in the game.

And for those Metroid fans without Wiis...

First set...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QclSGBXsmg

Second set...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYlcyECCuPs

Retro is going to bridge the story gap between the Prime series, and Super Metroid. Its an amazing watch.

[Peanut]

Wow, man. Metroid looks so generic FPS now.

[Barkworm]

Here's the problem: Any thunder that MP3 might have will immediately be stolen by Bioshock. Both games cater for a similar audience and when it comes to FP games, graphics are like 60% of the deal. Plus the actual gameplay looks way more original in Bioshock.

[GK Punk]

Plus, the "Prime" gets worse each game. This is the only Metroid game I haven't looked forward to, ever.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I honestly believe that weather it sells well or not, this will be the last major Metroid game before Nintendo ships it off to some crappy third party or retires the franchise completely while Retro and Intelligent Systems produce non-gamer games. I intend to enjoy it to the fullest.

[Mecha Cow]

Galaxy looks so pretty and shiny (http://www.jeux-france.com/news21358_super-mario-galaxy-plus-d-images.html).

[愛]

This game is going to be unreal. Seriously. Look at those pictures! :o

[ThirdMarioBro]

Ten years ago, FPS were nowhere and platformers were everywhere. Ten years later, then trend flip-flopped. It bothers me so much that platformers are such a dying breed nowadays, but one look at this screen makes all those worries melt away.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/42611520070816_223921_0_big.jpg


Kamek Majikoopa on a Doom Ship. Brings a tear to my bloodshot eye. The man in red is back.

[Peanut]

WAHA! Oh, the years I've waited for the next big platformer. This is going to be my game of the year. Not BioShock. Not Halo 3. Not Mass Effect. Not Brawl. Super Mario Galaxy for the mother f*cking WIN!

[ThirdMarioBro]

WAHA! Oh, the years I've waited for the next big platformer. This is going to be my game of the year. Not BioShock. Not Halo 3. Not Mass Effect. Not Brawl. Super Mario Galaxy for the mother f*cking WIN!

That sir, is a comment I must wholeheartedly agree with. For the mother fu*king WIN!

How appropriate that it lands just a few days before both of our birthdays.

[Cure]

Ten years ago, FPS were nowhere and platformers were everywhere. Ten years later, then trend flip-flopped.

You know, you're right. Why ARE platformers such a dying breed? They're so goddamned fun and I can't think really think of anyone who WOULDN'T enjoy them.

[Peanut]

That sir, is a comment I must wholeheartedly agree with. For the mother fu*king WIN!

How appropriate that it lands just a few days before both of our birthdays.

How appropriate indeed, my friend. We're lucky enough to always have some kickass games dropping right near our birthdays.

You know, you're right. Why ARE platformers such a dying breed? They're so goddamned fun and I can't think really think of anyone who WOULDN'T enjoy them.

Probably because people suck. I get really angry thinking about how few platformers are left out there. I mean, after Ratchet & Clank (which I couldn't care less for) and Galaxy come out this year, what else is there? Banjo-Kazooie seems like all we'll get; at least in terms of giant platformers. We'll probably still get some random ones on the DS, but I want the epic scale of games like SM64, BK and Conker again. :(

[ThirdMarioBro]

The market shifted. H@rdc0r3 players who grew up with platformers (outside the minority such as us) seem to think they are too kiddy to step down from their FPS throne. Kids are too busy with licensed Nicktoon games, and everybody else is either petting their puppies or training their brain in minutes a day.

Its awfully sad, but other than Banjo (who I get the feeling is going to bomb on the 360 like every other Rare game), the guy that started the genre (Mario) looks pretty much like the only one left standing who still puts out, and has the brilliant quality we remember, and even Mario games only hit once a decade, and that was before the non-gamer craze. :(

[Mecha Cow]

Well, let's face it; aside from the few big ones, most platformers blew (Just like it was back in the SNES days). I don't mind though. I like Mario's return being a big deal.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yep, so do I. Although there were a lot of quality platformers released back in the day. They weren't big names, and you had to dig to find them, but there were diamonds in the rough here and there.

[Cure]

Yep, so do I. Although there were a lot of quality platformers released back in the day. They weren't big names, and you had to dig to find them, but there were diamonds in the rough here and there.

Ironically, one of them was actually Aladdin, which had different versions for SNES and Genesis. They were both really good. You guys remember that?

[GK Punk]

I loved the Alladin Genesis game when it came out. I haven't played it in years though. I remember the SNES one being different, but that's about all I remember about it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, Capcom made the SNES version, and Virgin Interactive made the Genesis version. They were completely different games with the same box art. They were both kickass, but I think the Genesis game edged out the SNES game by a wee bit.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://wii.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=10610

I'm officially marking first party WiiWare games off my "gives a sh*t" list. I was at least hoping for some cheap and easy old-school sequels (four player Mario Bros. or something), but it looks like all we're getting is educational Brain Age type stuff, Wii Ware mini-games, and puzzle games. Looks like first party WiiWare stuff is officially worthless, and Nintendo expects us to get our fill from the Virtual Console. Fu*k you Nintendo.

Seems as though good old reliable Treasure is the only hope for this worthless download service. They've never failed me when it comes to gamer's games.

[Mecha Cow]

What the hell is WiiWare?

[Barkworm]

Click and learn, young Dutchman.

[Mecha Cow]

You and your 'logic'.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The "other half" of the Wii Shop devoted to new content.

See, I'm not intolerant of new gamers and new genres, but I do get resentful when my reward for sticking with Nintendo through the fu*king dark ages is to be slowly segregated out of the picture while being pat on the head, told everything is just fine, and to sit and be quiet.

I get the feeling that past Mario Kart next year, we're going to wind up with a mountain of Wii Fit third party clones and party games and that's it.

[Cure]

The story for Mario Galaxy.

“Every hundred years a comet passes over the Mushroom Kingdom and rains down magical stars and stardust, and as Princess Peach and the citizens of the kingdom are celebrating the centennial event, Bowser and his legions attack. As Mario attempts to put a stop to Bowser’s shenanigans, but things go awry: the next thing he knows, he finds himself on a mysterious moon high above the Mushroom Kingdom.”

Nothing too out of the ordinary for a Mario game.

[愛]

Sounds like any normal day in the Mushroom Kingdom.

[Jon]

http://wii.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=10610

I'm officially marking first party WiiWare games off my "gives a sh*t" list. I was at least hoping for some cheap and easy old-school sequels (four player Mario Bros. or something), but it looks like all we're getting is educational Brain Age type stuff, Wii Ware mini-games, and puzzle games. Looks like first party WiiWare stuff is officially worthless, and Nintendo expects us to get our fill from the Virtual Console. Fu*k you Nintendo.

Seems as though good old reliable Treasure is the only hope for this worthless download service. They've never failed me when it comes to gamer's games.


Well, they do say it's starting out with those type of games. But also mentions they'll be having other types of games (it seems, anyway) over time.

[Mecha Cow]

Mario should just let Bowser have Peach already. The bitch just keeps on getting kidnapped anyway. I think Bowser's devotion clearly shows he truly loves Peach, whereas Mario is just a territorial dick.

[Cure]

Mario should just let Bowser have Peach already. The bitch just keeps on getting kidnapped anyway. I think Bowser's devotion clearly shows he truly loves Peach, whereas Mario is just a territorial dick.

I've never looked at it that way. :lol: :lol:

[Kendamu]

Mario should just let Bowser have Peach already. The bitch just keeps on getting kidnapped anyway. I think Bowser's devotion clearly shows he truly loves Peach, whereas Mario is just a territorial dick.
But then it would just come down to Mario vs. Luigi over Daisy.

[Mecha Cow]

I don't think Luigi swings that way.

[愛]

When Mario and Luigi were living together in....the first Paper Mario? I could've sworn they were both gay for each other. :(

[ThirdMarioBro]

"Hey honey, I'm going out with my lesbian friend Gombella to screw around and hit all the gay clubs in Rogueport. You want to come?"
-Mario

"Nah, I'm-a gonna' stay home and clean house. Have fun honey."
-Luigi




That was so wrong. I apoligize.

[Mecha Cow]

Why doesn't Luigi have his own place anyway? You're what, 40? Stop leeching off your brother, you bum.

[ThirdMarioBro]

He's 32 I believe. I don't remember anymore.

[Peanut]

Listen, guys. We all know what happens to Luigi when he goes off on his own. We also know that Luigi has had to bail Mario out way more than the other way around. Mario is Missing? Luigi's Mansion? COME ON!

[愛]

It's not Mario's fault that he's a party animal! He's got his own series of party games, for God's sake!

[ThirdMarioBro]

Listen, guys. We all know what happens to Luigi when he goes off on his own. We also know that Luigi has had to bail Mario out way more than the other way around. Mario is Missing? Luigi's Mansion? COME ON!

Exactly. Luigi is the fu*king man.

[Mecha Cow]

It's not Mario's fault that he's a party animal! He's got his own series of party games, for God's sake!

Any party that includes dice and a board but no alcohol isn't much of a party.

[愛]

Alcohol at a party is too generic. Gotta break out the board games once in a while. I used to play Sorry back at school with a bunch of kids. That was pretty damn fun.

[Mecha Cow]

Apparently Super Mario Galaxy has been confirmed for a November 16th release in Europe.

[ThirdMarioBro]

So, I'm mad as hell. I spent three weeks researching and writing a giant Metroid historical retrospective for a week long special celebrating Metroid Prime 3 at AMN, and then IGN goes and writes this quickie lazy piece of sh*t (http://games.ign.com/articles/815/815011p1.html). Mine's like three times as long with lots more info, yet nobody's going to read it because they'll think they already know everything.

*sigh* :(

[Dr. Doom]

If it makes you feel any better, I probably wouldn't have read it anyways.

[ThirdMarioBro]

That makes me feel much better.

[Dr. Doom]

Glad I could help.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I'm calling in sick today.

METROID PRIME 3 IS OUT!

[Barkworm]

Metroid Dread exists??!! (http://shacknews.com/onearticle.x/48650)

[愛]

Holy sh*t, another 2D Metroid? I'm TOTALLY down for that! Hook it up!

[Mecha Cow]

Guys, that's clearly an in-joke put in there by the developers in response to all the rumors about the game. If anything, I'd take that as a hint the project never existed to begin with. I'd love a new 2D Metroid though, but I'll believe it when I see it.

[Peanut]

I'm calling in sick today.

METROID PRIME 3 IS OUT!

You mean that game that knocks off the entire first level of Halo? Pass.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Guys, that's clearly an in-joke put in there by the developers in response to all the rumors about the game. If anything, I'd take that as a hint the project never existed to begin with. I'd love a new 2D Metroid though, but I'll believe it when I see it.

I would die happy to see a sequel to Fusion, but the more likely scenario with all this "One Last Mission..." marketing that Prime 3 is getting is that the series will be shelved after this game. I mean, it only makes sense since Nintendo is so hellbent on non-gamers and focused on giving core gamers the finger. Metroid Prime 3 went into production way before Brain Age and Wii Sports took off. Prime 2 sold like garbage, and Hunters did worse (though Hunters is a piece of sh*t anyway).

I worry about the future of the series. Retro is through with the series now that MP3 has shipped, and R&D1 (Metroid, Metroid II, Zero Mission) was closed down and melted down into EAD (and we all know where their priorities lie). I know that matters little since most of the R&D1 staff moved to sister studio Intelligent Systems (Super Metroid), but they don't get funding for sh*t. I hope Nintendo doesn't shelve the series, but I have a bad feeling all we're getting past Mario Kart is party games and Wii Sports 2.

Enjoy this holiday season folks. My gut feeling is that it won't last. Now, excuse me, but I have to go pick up my copy of Metroid Prime 3. Later.

[Mecha Cow]

Hell no, dude. Metroid's become a huge cash cow after Prime took off and there's no way they're gonna kill it now. The only thing that's finished is the Prime 'trilogy'.

And good riddance to it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

And good riddance to it.

BWAHAHA!!!! I expose you for the fraud you really are!!!!! MUA-AHAHAHAHAHA!!!

*ahem*

Yeah, so Prime 3 is the best one kthxbye.

[Peanut]

There's only one shooter with a 3 in the name that matters this year. It starts with an "H" and ends with an "alo".

[ThirdMarioBro]

There's only one shooter with a 3 in the name that matters this year. It starts with an "H" and ends with an "alo".

Ah, but you forgot the last part.

2.5

[Mecha Cow]

There's only one shooter with a 3 in the name that matters this year
BUT NO PEANUT METROID PRIME ISN'T A FIRST PERSON SHOOTER IT IS A FIRST PERSON ADVENTURE

[Peanut]

Ah, but you forgot the last part.

2.5

Good one! Coming from someone who doesn't know anything about the franchise, or the genre in question, and quite clearly listens to negative fanboy comments on the game, instead of actually knowing what they're talking about. And it's especially good that the comment is made in defense to what can arguably be called a 1.5 version of the original Metroid Prime.

*swish*

BUT NO PEANUT METROID PRIME ISN'T A FIRST PERSON SHOOTER IT IS A FIRST PERSON ADVENTURE

WHOMG! I TOTALLY FORGOT! I guess calling it either is a stretch, when in reality it should be called a first person scanning game! OH NO, I DIDN'T!

[Spitfire]

Well I played both and I liked Halo better. I don't like Halo much though but the single player we more fun the Prime's. The MP in Halo was better, but I was pretty bad at the MP in Prime maybe that's why.

I wasn't to much into FPS back when I played either. I had the most fun playing Ghost Recon MP out of any MP FPS game. Perfect Dark was fun for awhile but playing the storymode was more fun for me then playing the MP stuff. Everyone online would just mess around and teamkill whenever I played.

[Peanut]

PDZ has to be one of the worst multiplayer shooters I have ever played. Online or off. Seriously...and I've played Shadowrun.

[Spitfire]

PDZ has to be one of the worst multiplayer shooters I have ever played. Online or off. Seriously...and I've played Shadowrun.

I never played that one but yeah I've heard horror stories. Like I said I didn't like the MP that much. Alot of people didn't like PDZ and I can see why, it's really not that great and with all that hype surrounding it I can certainly see why people expected more.

I never played the first one more then a few times at a friends house so I never really played the superior one that could be why I at least like the storymode. But my disk is jacked up now so I can't play it anyways. The disk looks fine but levels, 3,4,9, and I'm sure there's more I haven't tried past 9 yet, won't load. I thought it might be my 360 because Lost Planet wouldn't let me join matches only create them online as well. So I got a new one and PDZ is still messed up. I haven't tried LP yet though.

[Mecha Cow]

WHOMG! I TOTALLY FORGOT! I guess calling it either is a stretch, when in reality it should be called a first person scanning game! OH NO, I DIDN'T!
Well, it's in first person and you scan stuff...but where does the 'game' part come in?

*Runs*

[ThirdMarioBro]

*follows with an assault rifle*

[ThirdMarioBro]

Gamespot gave Metroid Prime an 8.5. An 8. - freaking 5. Consider this coming from the site that changed their Metroid Hunters score when everyone whined about it. They scored Twilight Princess-a GameCube port- higher than Metroid Prime. 3.

Attention whores.

[Peanut]

No. If it had been Jeff, or even Alex, I would agree, but not Kevin VanOrd.

I'm fairly certain they had to re-score Hunter's because the version they used to review the game wasn't final, and therefore didn't have all the features of the finished product. Also, Gamespot changed to a .5 system. Therefore scores like 8.8 have been eliminated. If TP got reviewed now, it would either receive an 8.5 or a 9.0. There is no middle ground. And seriously, Kevin didn't hate on the game in the slightest, did you read the review, or just glance at the score and decide they were trolling for attention again?

Dude, you're coming off as hardcore fanboy on this one.

[ThirdMarioBro]

DISCLAIMER: Concerning Metroid, nothing that Lucas says should be taken as unbiased or rational. Why? Because its freaking Metroid. His opinion is to be disregarded as blind and narrow minded when in discussions relating Samus Aran or three clawed gelatinous blobs of condensed energy.

[Peanut]

Have you gotten it yet? I'd like to hear more about it, as it has slightly peaked my interest more than either of the previous Prime games. Mostly because it's on a console that never gets used, but also because it seems to have limited the backtracking by adding in new planets for exploration, instead of just the single area.

[Mecha Cow]

Your interest can't be slightly peaked as a peak is the highest point!

[Peanut]

Well, a slight peak is all I can get out of Metroid. Not like TMB, who pitches a tent every time the name comes out.

[GK Punk]

I remember when I was considered the overboard Metroid Fanboy around here :lol:

[ThirdMarioBro]

Okay guys, I got it, but here's the deal. This is the last in the trilogy, so I've been playing through Super Metroid, MP1 and MP2 (going for 100% completion this time) on a marathon run to get ready (call it Metroid month if you will). I'll be lagging behind by a little bit. I'm 80% of the way through MP2--then straight into MP3.

Seriously, I love this series so much.

[GK Punk]

I do as well. I own all of them but hunters and prime 3. (Don't have a DS or Wii, otherwise I probably would)

[Barkworm]

You don't have a DS??!! You lamer!!!

Anyway, I had no big interest in MP3 but after all those reviews came in, I'm kind of excited. Too bad Europe sucks as a gaming continent...

[GK Punk]

Can't afford one :(
You wanna buy me one Barkworm?

[Barkworm]

My account balance says 47 Cent right now. Depressing...

[Cure]

Uh-oh. Looks like MP3 is corrupting some Wiis. (http://gonintendo.com/?p=23976)

Also, Mushroom Men developer commentary. (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24322.html)

You know, I'm keeping an eye out for that game. The key word in that commentary?

PLATFORMER.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The History of Metroid (http://wii.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=10649)

Shameless self promotion for the TOTAL win baby.