The Nintendo Discussion Thread

[Mecha Cow]

I've started playing Galaxy again. Its one-year anniversary is coming up, so I say you should all join me.

[Cure]

I still haven't gotten all 120 stars. I have about 90 something.

[Peanut]

I've been playing the **** out of some Animal Crossing, bitch! YEA!

[MrPliggins]

I'm going to buy that tomorrow. Hopefully it's not sold out at Best Buy!

[ThirdMarioBro]

I'm too busy with Gears, Mirror's Edge, and Banjo to care about the Wii now or probably any time in the next couple of months. I'll probably Christmas Animal Crossing since money is tight in the Bush economy right now.

[Peanut]

Mirror's Edge and Banjo are complete junk. How can you waste any time with Mirror's Edge, anyways? The game is like 4 hour longs.

Edit: And PS, if anyone gets AC:CF, give me some fruit! I've got apples.

[poiuytre]

I have access to a Wii for the remainder of the month and around roughly 15 games. I can't possibly go through the majority of them so I need some help setting my priorities straight. I've ordered them from which interest me most to least at the moment. Feel free to switch them around or comment.

Zack & Wiki (Adventure puzzle game + great art)
Wario Land: Shake It (Looks cool)
Chocobo Dungeon (Roguelikes are cool, but kinda long)
Endless Ocean (Curious but don't quite know what to expect)
Super Paper Mario (Paper Mario 3. Nuff said)
Trauma Center 2 (Liked DS game)
Metroid Prime III (Liked Prime 1, hated Prime 2. Where does that put me?)
Super Mario Galaxy (Don't like Mario games but it got lots of praise)
Boom Blox (Don't know what to expect of gameplay)
House of the Dead 1+2 (Don't like HotD games)
Okami (Own PS2 version already)
Resident Evil 4 Wii (Own PS2 version already)
Mercury Meltdown Revolution (Looks crap)
Wii Sports (Played it often already)
Wii Play (Not fun alone?)
Ghost Squad (Doesn't interest me one bit)
Twilight Princess (Played GCN version. Loved it)

[Mecha Cow]

Super Paper Mario is not Paper Mario 3, it's more of a spin-off. Anyway, nothing on that list even comes close to Super Mario Galaxy. If you can only pick one game, this is the one to pick and unless you are dead inside you will love every minute of it.

[Ninjinister]

I would definitely keep Zack & Wiki at the top. It's my second favourite Wii game, under Brawl.

Super Paper Mario and Wii Sports/Wii Play are the only other ones on the list I've played for more than a few minutes; I agree with their placement more or less, as well.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Metroid Prime III (Liked Prime 1, hated Prime 2. Where does that put me?)


3 is better than them both. And 1 is my favorite GameCube game.

[Peanut]

Super Paper Mario and Galaxy are the only two on that list worth playing, as you already own Okami and have played TP on the Cube. Zak and Wiki is alright, but I found it got pretty boring. Still worth checking out, though. Wario Land is like an extremely well animated platformer from the mid to late 90's, but it grows tiresome pretty fast. And Trauma Center is always worth an hour or two to play the first few missions before it becomes an exercise in tedium.

The rest is worth less than the case it comes in.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Mirror's Edge and Banjo are complete junk.

That's the dumbest thing I've heard all month, and having been in the backwoods for a week, I've heard some doozies.

[Peanut]

That's the dumbest thing I've heard all month, and having been in the backwoods for a week, I've heard some doozies.

F*ck off. You're a fanboy for that garbage. Nuts & Bolts is the sh*ttest thing I've played in months, and I played LittleBigPlanet and CoD:WaW in the last few weeks.

The game is essentially a collection of horrible vehicle-based mini-missions. Complete SH*T.

[ThirdMarioBro]

So you're saying LittleBigGameOfTheYear sucks too? Thanks for the clarification. Now I can mark your opinion off my attention span.

[Peanut]

It's called the f*cking hype train. Have you even played it? How can someone with a love for platforming games, the same as me, even THINK that game should be considered for GOTY? HOW!? The terrible "tiers", the floaty and unresponsive jumping, the 3 hour single-player, the horrific server lag and inability for people to actually create something worth playing. Where the f*ck is the GOTY material?

[愛]

Just as a little side-note, I like Call of Duty: World at War. A few missions are really tedious and frustrating, though. As far as I got to while I was home for the weekend, anyway. I can't say that for the whole game.

[ThirdMarioBro]

It's called the f*cking hype train. Have you even played it? How can someone with a love for platforming games, the same as me, even THINK that game should be considered for GOTY? HOW!? The terrible "tiers", the floaty and unresponsive jumping, the 3 hour single-player, the horrific server lag and inability for people to actually create something worth playing. Where the f*ck is the GOTY material?

The floaty jumping physics suit the type of platformer it is. It caught me off guard a little at first, but then I flushed the comparisons to Super Mario out of my head (because it's not that kind of game) and began to see it for the brilliance it is. LittleBigPlanet is the kind of game you love for the sum of it's parts. The physics, the co-op (been going through the whole thing 2-player), the puzzles, and the sheer charm and creativity that went into the levels...it's awesome. I'd be willing to say it's my favorite platformer since Yoshi's Island. Not better mind you, but the best since.

[Brodie]

The floaty jumping physics suit the type of platformer it is.

Is it classified as a Sh-tty-Platformer, is that a type?

[Peanut]

The floaty jumping physics suit the type of platformer it is. It caught me off guard a little at first, but then I flushed the comparisons to Super Mario out of my head (because it's not that kind of game) and began to see it for the brilliance it is. LittleBigPlanet is the kind of game you love for the sum of it's parts. The physics, the co-op (been going through the whole thing 2-player), the puzzles, and the sheer charm and creativity that went into the levels...it's awesome. I'd be willing to say it's my favorite platformer since Yoshi's Island. Not better mind you, but the best since.

But the floaty jumping is cause for SO many cheap deaths and problems. And you completely skimmed over the sh*tty 3-tier system. And the physics always, without fail, add up to "grab moving object...let go of moving object" "grab block...push block". The co-op is fun for awhile, but once the game starts getting harder, it's a chore for unskilled players, and both my sister and my girlfriend quit playing it at these points. The charm is there for awhile, but it really disappeared after the 3rd, or maybe 4th, world. Everything really started to blend together. It doesn't help that a bunch of the levels also feel pretty clunky, design wise. As a platformer, I think it's complete and utter sh*t. As a fun little time-waster, I think it's decent at best.

[Cure]

F*ck off. You're a fanboy for that garbage. Nuts & Bolts is the sh*ttest thing I've played in months, and I played LittleBigPlanet and CoD:WaW in the last few weeks.

The game is essentially a collection of horrible vehicle-based mini-missions. Complete SH*T.

Well, maybe he meant the original. At least I hope he did, cuz sticking up for the crap that is N&B is retarded.

[MrPliggins]

Just got Animal Crossing: CF and Call of Duty: WaW yesterday. I'm enjoying both games, but I'm terrible at the online multiplayer in COD. I'm trying to get the hang of the wii zapper.

[Peanut]

Dude...what fruit is in your town? Please tell me not apples. And then, GIVE ME SOME!

[Dr. Doom]

I guess we know what fruit is in your town.

YOU!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/TobiasFenrir/OHDAMN.jpg

[Peanut]

NO! Apples! IT'S APPLES!

*cries*

[Dr. Doom]

Hahahahahaha

[Mecha Cow]

You have to hand it to Doom, that was a good one.

[MrPliggins]

The only fruit in my town is peaches. Peaches.....EVERYWHERE...

[Peanut]

I'll give you some apples if you give me some peaches!

[MrPliggins]

ok..send me your info. I think I can send it to you through nook's cranny?

[Peanut]

Sorry, man. Didn't see your reply.

Anyways, I'm afraid they ditched the code sending thing, now all trading has to be done online.

[Barkworm]

I recently realized that apart from Animal Crossing (which I'm not a fan of) there is nothing for the Wii this holiday season. NOTHING. What a sad piece of sh*t that console is.

[Peanut]

But don't you know they're making a sequel to a game no one gives a sh*t about, and updating a classic for the new-gen! They still care about the hardcore!

[Barkworm]

Also, Reggie encourages third party publishers to bring successful titles from other consoles to the Wii. Because games like the new Prince of Persia will be super awesome looking on it! Not to mention the awesomely smooth controls!

[Mecha Cow]

How can you say there's nothing on the Wii? I know I'll be getting my Wii Music on this Christmas break!

Where have you been anyway, mister?

[Dr. Doom]

I really don't understand some of the criticism that Wii Music has been getting. Game Informer gave it a 3, for god's sake. Is everyone upset because it doesn't have like Dragonforce in the song list or something? I know all the classical music and outdated pop songs may seem a little "uncool", but come on. I've been having a blast with it. Frankly a game like this would probably be sort of strange if it was filled with the same kind of song lists as Guitar Hero and Rock Band. I really just don't get where all the negativity is coming from.

Also, I finally feel like my Miis serve a purpose beyond Wii Sports. That's something I've been anticipating for a while.

[Mecha Cow]

Most reviewers seem to be judging it as if it were a full game, when it's actually more of a toy. I think that's kind of shortsighted, though I understand the product may not have much value to the average gamer.

Or maybe it really is a piece of sh*t; I haven't played it.

Not that there's any excuse for the Wii's lack of proper games, but I agree that taking the frustation out on Wii Music isn't entirely fair.

[Dr. Doom]

Well I know I'M enjoying the hell out of it. Granted I did get it free, and that makes it a lot easier to enjoy something, but I'm glad I have it, and I think it's a lot of fun.

[Peanut]

Come back in a day or two and tell us what you think. It's a piece of sh*t, and calling it a game is a complete joke.

But it isn't for us, so that's why I just avoid it all together.

[Dr. Doom]

I hope your post counter starts going backwards. I'm having fun, I don't give a ****!

[Dr. Doom]

Still lovin' it, mother****er!

[ThirdMarioBro]

A relative offered me a copy when they decided it was sh*t. I told them I had already turned down two others. It's pathetic when you can't even give me a Nintendo game.

[Dr. Doom]

I just spent like 6 hours arranging a version of "Every Breath You Take".

[Peanut]

You also think Fable II is amazing! WE'RE NOT HAVING THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU!

[Dr. Doom]

Bah! -=Overturns a table=-

[Cure]

Bah! -=Overturns a table=-

It doesn't work without the huge green font. And why don't you get on MSN anymore?

[Dr. Doom]

Undermineded.

As a result of all the gaming and working I've been doing lately, I haven't really been chatting on even AIM much lately. That and I tend to close MSN among other things I'm not using when I start running like WoW or L4D or whatever so they'll run smoother.

[Ninjinister]

Bah! -=Overturns a table=-

Woah, did I just step into a time portal, or did Doom go back to normal? All that's missing is the Capcom Doom .GIF in his sig....

[Hannah]

Hey assholes, I'm like two years late with this, but tell me what games to get to accompany my (possible) Wii! Don't tell me not to get one, I don't care.

[Mecha Cow]

Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, No More Heroes and Resident Evil 4. There isn't much else aside from those.

Zelda: Twilight Princess I GUESS if you haven't already played it on GC, but I personally didn't like it much and I liked the Wii port even less.

[Hannah]

What's significant about Wii RE4 that I should get it again? I should probably just look this up, but I'm not going to.

[poiuytre]

RE4, Okami and Twilight Princess are definitely games you should check out if you haven't played them yet, but they aren't really worth the price of rebuying them unless you want to collect every version. Zack & Wiki, Super Paper Mario and Mario Galaxy are pretty good games too.

I'm currectly playing my friend's copy of Trauma Center 2 but I'm still on the fence on that one. It's fun and feels fresh but it's a game that might get repetitive and boring quick. I don't know yet.

What's significant about Wii RE4 that I should get it again? I should probably just look this up, but I'm not going to.
http://tinyurl.com/6kg544

[Mecha Cow]

Oh, right, you already played it on GC, didn't you? Well, the Wii version has significantly smoother controls, and includes the extras from the PS2 port.

I don't know if that's worth getting the game again for, though, but it might be something to consider if you ever manage to find it cheap.

[Peanut]

Get Animal Crossing and give me some f*cking fruit God f*cking damn it! F*CK! ALL I WANT IS AN ORANGE YOU COMMUNIST F*CKS!

[Mecha Cow]

You call us Communists yet expect everyone to just share their fruit? I think not, Pinko.

[Ecto Jedi]

If I may add my two cents, Medal of Honor Heroes 2 is a great game. Scarface: The World is Yours is a great game. Pretty much everything else I own has already been mentioned. But I can't stress this enough: get Okami. It's fantastic.

[Ninjinister]

The Godfather: Blackhand Edition has kickass controls. When I borrowed it from a co-worker, I would spend entire afternoons tossing goons off of rooftops and slowly... strangling... civilians... to death... (flashback)

I'm probably alone in thinking this, but Bust-A-Move Bash is likely the best game of the series. Having the Wiimote to physically control the launcher as opposed to a D-pad or joystick brings a new level of play to the game.

If you've ever played Cloud Master, then The Monkey King: The Journey Begins is right up your alley, but since both games are pretty obscure and the former is quite old, this may not be a factor.

I'll also throw in the standard Super Paper Mario, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and Zack & Wiki: Quest for Babados' Treasure.

[Hannah]

Okay: Okami, Animal Crossing, SSBB, and Galaxy. No More Heroes looks good but I don't know how many games we can afford.

Is Smooth Moves anything special? I love WarioWare.

http://tinyurl.com/6kg544
I already said I wasn't going to look it up.

[Peanut]

Don't get No More Heroes.

And WarioWare is really fun, but it's like 2 hours long, so take that into account. It has some of the best mini-games in the series, though.

[Mecha Cow]

Get NMH, damn it. We're talking about the Wii here, this is no time to get picky.

[Dr. Doom]

E-fight! E-FIGHT!

[Peanut]

*virtual slap*

[Hannah]

Neither of you have said why I should or shouldn't get it.

[Peanut]

It's not good. Don't listen to what anyone says, the missions are decent, but the in-between portions are a lesson in tedium and horrible game design. You'll have more than enough to play without picking it up.

[ThirdMarioBro]

No More Heroes is like a snuff film made by eight year old kids. It has it's heart in the right place, but the material is just way too mature for their tiny brains to wrap around.

[Hannah]

Yeah, but it's 20 bucks. Come on.

[Ninjinister]

Yeah, but it's 20 bucks. Come on.

No More Heroes is $20 now? Hot dog, here I come!

[ThirdMarioBro]

*facepalm*

[Hannah]

No, really, I can't afford that many 40-50 dollar games.

[Peanut]

What's your cap here? It's hard to tell you if you're not giving us some numbers. Like, how many full priced games can you get? Two? Three?

[愛]

I could get No More Heroes for free, and I STILL don't want it.

[Mecha Cow]

You just asked what games to get, not why!

I'm not even going to argue with Peanut's complaints, because they're pretty much spot-on. However, I love the game for its sense of style, humor and self-awareness. It's a game that's completely in love with being a game while at the same time being a great example of postmodern, non-traditional game design. If nothing else it's just a very unique experience.

Whether you'll enjoy it or not depends on what you look for in a game. I personally loved it, but I can totally see why some people wouldn't. If you decide not to get it, I think you should at least try it out sometime and see for yourself.

Oh, right, e-fight. *sucker punch*

*E* What the hell, like ten million people posted while I was typing.

[Hannah]

I'm going to guess two or three, yeah. I can't be sure because my parents are crazy.

[愛]

You just asked what games to get, not why!

I'm not even going to argue with Peanut's complaints, because they're pretty much spot-on. However, I love the game for its sense of style, humor and self-awareness. It's a game that's completely in love with being a game while at the same time being a great example of postmodern, non-traditional game design. If nothing else it's just a very unique experience.

Whether you'll enjoy it or not depends on what you look for in a game. I personally loved it, but I can totally see why some people wouldn't. If you decide not to get it, I think you should at least try it out sometime and see for yourself.

Oh, right, e-fight. *sucker punch*

*E* What the hell, like ten million people posted while I was typing.

Learn to type faster in English, wussy!

[Mecha Cow]

No! If I make any mistakes I'll lose my right to give people sh*t about their poor grammar.

[Peanut]

However, I love the game for its sense of style, humor and self-awareness. It's a game that's completely in love with being a game while at the same time being a great example of postmodern, non-traditional game design. If nothing else it's just a very unique experience.

I also love that about the game, but it also makes it impossible to recommend to anyone 100%. It's worth playing if you're into games, but if you're not, you won't be missing anything.

I'm going to guess two or three, yeah. I can't be sure because my parents are crazy.

Alright, we'll go with two. One of them should be Galaxy, hands down. Then, I would suggest Brawl as your solid second. A third could come as either Twilight Princess, Super Paper Mario or Animal Crossing. That's your choice. In terms of cheaper games, you said you liked WarioWare, and I'm pretty sure that's cheaper now. If not, Zak & Wiki or RE4 would both be good choices.

[Hannah]

I checked Amazon and WarioWare is still like 50 dollars. This sucks.

[Mecha Cow]

I also love that about the game, but it also makes it impossible to recommend to anyone 100%.
True. I think every gamer should at least try it out once though.

Anyway, Galaxy and Brawl should indeed be your definite one and two. As for three, you can't go wrong with Sonic Unleashed, amirite?

[Peanut]

I checked Amazon and WarioWare is still like 50 dollars. This sucks.

Is it really? Wow. That's pretty inexcusable, considering the age and value of the game. I can't rightfully recommend it to you, then. Not at full price.

[Ninjinister]

I checked Amazon and WarioWare is still like 50 dollars. This sucks.

I was going to suggest getting it at GameStop if you don't mind selling your soul, since I'm 90% sure it's at least under $30, if not at $20... but those f***ers don't even have it on their website! They have the GameCube version listed, but not the Wii version? What madness is this?

[Hannah]

You can't make fun of Gamestop here! Doom's Employee of the Forever!

[Kid Icarus]

Is it really? Wow. That's pretty inexcusable, considering the age and value of the game. I can't rightfully recommend it to you, then. Not at full price.

Gotta love Nintendo's whole "Pshaw, we're not going to drop our prices on anything anymore. Ever." stance.

I agree with Peanut. Galaxy is a must own title. After that, Brawl. And as a third, if you've never played one before, get the new Animal Crossing. If you've played any of the others... eh. I didn't really like Super Paper Mario.

Peanut's choices with cheaper games are dead on, though. Or if you really can't make up your mind just ask for Wii Points cards.

Oh, and by the way... why the **** didn't you people force me to play Chrono Trigger before? Best money spent on DS yet.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I hope the rumors about Factor 5 running out of money aren't true, otherwise next year is going to be pretty much nonexistent for Wii owners, just like this year has been since like....May.

[Kid Icarus]

Madworld, The Conduit, the newly announced TMNT game, Punch Out... I think I'll live.

[Peanut]

LAWL! Eggebrecht.

[R-iZZy]

Yeah, 2009 looks to be somewhat promising for the Wii. Also, I'd have to throw in Metroid Prime 3: Corruption on that recommendation list for Hannah. The first one of the trilogy is still the best in the series, but Corruption was pretty awesome as well.

Hand claps for whoever mentioned The Godfather: Blackhand Edition. I had too much fun with that game, and the controls were pretty damn smooth.

Can't stress enough to play Okami. That game is an instant classic. I originally played it on the PS2 and didn't bother to give it a spin on the Wii, but I might change that (especially since the Celestial Brush was meant to be programmed with Wii controls).

Also, if you have friends to play with, I'd also recommend Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles. I have a few idiotic, graphic-whoring anti-Wii "friends" who really got into that game. Can't go wrong with rail-track, zombie-blasting, FPSes.

EDIT: Also, can't believe this article about the Wii's success over Thanksgiving weekend.

Nintendo President Satoru Iwata told Reuters in an interview that Wii sales during the Thanksgiving holiday week came to about 800,000 units in the United States, more than double the 350,000 units it sold in the same period a year earlier.

http://www.reuters.com/article/technology-media-telco-SP/idUSTKF00318920081208

[Kid Icarus]

I can't recommend Okami on the Wii. Yes, the brush mechanic *should* have worked insanely well with the remote.

Should have.

It doesn't. You'll be flinging the remote across the room as soon as you get to the chain blooming events early on in the game, because the game has problems recognizing a drawn circle. I hear the trick to this is to contort your arms so the remote is pointing directly at the sensor bar without any tilt... but I never got that method to work.

[Barkworm]

The PS2 version of Okami was one of the greatest games ever. F*ck the Wii version.

[poiuytre]

I can't recommend Okami on the Wii. Yes, the brush mechanic *should* have worked insanely well with the remote.

Should have.

It doesn't. You'll be flinging the remote across the room as soon as you get to the chain blooming events early on in the game, because the game has problems recognizing a drawn circle. I hear the trick to this is to contort your arms so the remote is pointing directly at the sensor bar without any tilt... but I never got that method to work.
Really? Mind you, I had the exact same issue in the PS2 version, but this is really one of those things you'd expect to be tightened up in a port years later after the original release. :-/ Oh well, while that's a real shame, Okami is one of those games where the sum of all the good strongly outweighs the admittedly numerous bad. If you haven't played it yet, you take it where you can get it on any platform.

[Kid Icarus]

I'm sorry but sloppy controls in a game that demands accuracy ruins a game.

Yes, the story is neat. Yes, the graphics are amazing. But if I can't get past the second area of the game because the controls are badly realized, there's a serious problem.

[R-iZZy]

Funny thing is this isn't the first time I've heard about the bad controls on the Wii's version. I doubt the game is compatible with the WiiMotion Plus peripheral. Either way, a game like this should be accurate with controls hands down. I'll probably rent the game just to have my own say from personal experience, but my expectations have been lowered now.

[Peanut]

Any game where a button press is replaced by waggle = instant fail. Case in point, Okami.

[Kid Icarus]

You know, I really could have just pushed the jump button again in Galaxy to make Mario spin...

Damn.

[Peanut]

The new Mad World trailer is pretty awesome. But watching it just makes me wish more and more that it was on either PS3 or 360 instead.

[Ecto Jedi]

Okami for Wii is a fantastic game. And I could go on about how I spent 40+ hours beating the thing, how I fell in love with both the visual style and the controls, and how I enjoyed every cell-shaded minute of it. I could, but I won't. I'm too lazy and I fully realize my opinions won't sway these guys' opinions one iota.

This is mainly for anyone, including Hanna, who might be put off buying Okami for the Wii because of some bullsh*t comments on here. Regarding the controls, I quote both Gamespot and IGN, who make the case more eloquently that I could have:

"This is Okami's main gameplay conceit, and it's woven impeccably throughout the game, where it's utilized in battles, puzzle sequences, and even some cute minigames. On the PS2, you used an analog stick to draw the necessary rune; on the Wii, of course, you use the remote. For the most part, this works wonderfully." - Gamespot

"Frankly, the Wii controls are so good that they change the whole pace of the game -- a process that was previously slow and meticulous is suddenly very quick; so speedy, in fact, that you will find yourself using the brush whenever possible, at any opportunity, and so much more than you ever would have with an analog stick." - IGN


There. I said it. They said it.

Now go f*ck yourselves.

[愛]

Dang.

Well, I lost my copy of Okami for PS2 (I think some friends of my roommate from way back stole it...I won't even talk about racism here). However, I did procure another copy of it, and I've been going through the game here and there.

I've never played it on Wii, but because of WAGGLE, I would recommend it for PS2. I would assume (I can't say that I'm 100% right about this) that it is an overall better experience. I say this because when I played Twilight Princess on GameCube, it was more intuitive and less frustrating than the Wii version.

Anyway, that's what I say about Okami. :tcouch:

...I don't even know why I put that in there.

[Ecto Jedi]

May I add that Okami for the Wii runs in widescreen. And in Progressive Scan. And the controls are much more intuitive. And that Nintendo rules. And that everyone who says otherwise sucks. Sucks big hairy bat balls.

[愛]

Kid Icarus, is that you?

[Hannah]

What just happened? Everyone needs to learn how to spell my name. It's a palindrome, come on.

[Peanut]

Again. I would rather press a button than waggle a stupid ****ing controller to attack. PERIOD.

Might I also add that those two reviews were written by two of the single worst reviewers in the press? VanOrd reviews games because everyone left Gamespot at once and he got shoved into the position. And I don't think I have to say very much about Cassamasina from IGN. His journalistic integrity is known well to everyone who's followed gaming press for the last decade.

[Ecto Jedi]

Oh f*ck off, you Wii-hating hippie!

[ThirdMarioBro]

Matt Cassamasina is railing on over at IGN in their Year in Review about upcoming Wii announcements from Konami, EA, and Ubisoft. I don't put much faith in anything he's anticipating. Matt Cassamasina would cream his pants about the announcement of a new Mario Golf.

[Peanut]

I don't hate the Wii. This is the same as your Sony love. It was the only console you owned, so you were completely blinded to it's flaws. Which, with the Wii, are MANY. If I hated it, I wouldn't have f*cking owned two of them.

[Ecto Jedi]

F*ck it. Love what you want, hate what you want. I'm just coming to the defense of a magical piece of software known as Okami for the Wii.

Go back to bitching and moaning about everything else -- but leave Okami alone, for Chrissake!

[Peanut]

What the hell? I've never ragged on Okami. Where the hell did you get that from!? I don't like waggling to attack, is that a F*CKING problem!?

If the only place people can play Okami is on the Wii, then do it, because the game is fantastic. I, on the other hand, absolutely hate the Wii controls, and greatly prefer it on the PS2. Why is that an issue to you?

[Ecto Jedi]

It's a fantastic game on the PS2, it's a fantastic game on Wii. A better game, even, if you care about graphics and control.

I do hate it when videogames come between us, Peanut.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Multi-platform releases FTW?

[Ra]

I think one day there will be a furious battle as a result of the console wars. An epic and violent tale that would be seen as 'the modern age gaming war'. Heads will roll, many lives will be lost, and all in the great and glorious name of gaming. Then there will be one man left at the end of it all, standing upon the fallen bodies of his friends and enemies, screaming to the heavens a cry of pain and anguish as the rain clouds part and a single ray of sunlight falls down upon his blood-caked face...

Oh yes...

[Peanut]

The console wars are f*cking retarded.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The console wars are f*cking retarded.

^Win

Play games. That's all that matters.

[Brodie]

TMB is f*cking retarded.

Fixed it.



HOLLA ATCHA BOI

[Peanut]

Anyone else signed up for Club Nintendo yet? So glad they brought this over to NA. I still don't know how many coins I have, because my account hasn't transferred yet, but I'm sure it's enough. I don't know how I'm going to decide what to get. Something as obscure as the G&W collection really stands out, but those DS card cases are hot, albeit pointless.

[愛]

Where do you go about doing it? Nintendo's official website?

[Peanut]

Yeah. Just go to Nintendo.com.

[Kid Icarus]

Kid Icarus, is that you?

Lawl I see that thing is what you did thar! Sadly, I've grown up, knocked a few brain cells into action (wooh beer! wait, isn't that supposed to do the opposite? Eh.), and calmed down on the blind Nintendo lovefest. Nintendogs sucks. Wii Fit? Sucks. I've also discovered some PC games. I spent more on my GPU then I ever have on a console. WTFOMGBBQ!

And yes, waggle does not work on every game. Shaking the remote to attack? Fail.

Using the remote as a pointer to aim? Win. Using the remote to fly through menus? Win. Using it to move levers and **** around, or to throw boxes ect, win.

The remote was made to bring more accuracy and immersion into games... so far the only ones that have done a good job with this are Metroid Prime 3, Wii Sports, and Mario Galaxy, with the latter to a much lesser extent. Although... I do hear that Force Unleashed game is pretty awesome.

Anyway with all that said... I haven't really enjoyed *any* games this generation, unless you can count the Orange Box as part of this generation, and that was only TF2 and Portal. HL2 can kiss my butt.

[Kid Icarus]

Anyone else signed up for Club Nintendo yet? So glad they brought this over to NA. I still don't know how many coins I have, because my account hasn't transferred yet, but I'm sure it's enough. I don't know how I'm going to decide what to get. Something as obscure as the G&W collection really stands out, but those DS card cases are hot, albeit pointless.

Heh. It's a pain in the ass. You have to do a stupid survey for every game you've registered. Just click random buttons and type gibberish into the comment box. Should go much faster then.

[Cure]

I hate how they're all talking about new Zeldas and Marios and whatnot. This is what happened with Mario 128. They kept talking about it and nothing happened until it became Galaxy. Or was 128 scrapped and was Galaxy something else? Either way, I hate the PR games they play.

[Barkworm]

Cure is right but the situation with the Wii is completely different from the one with the GameCube so there might be new Zeldas and Marios in the near future.

[愛]

I'm about to hax my Wii so I can play Tatsunoko vs. Capcom. Then all will be well.

[R-iZZy]

^ Werd. Too bad I was an idiot and updated to Menu System 3.4. Now nothing loads up in my Homebrew Channel. :(

[ThirdMarioBro]

I hate how they're all talking about new Zeldas and Marios and whatnot. This is what happened with Mario 128. They kept talking about it and nothing happened until it became Galaxy. Or was 128 scrapped and was Galaxy something else? Either way, I hate the PR games they play.

The "zillions of characters running around like mad men" half of that video became Pikmin. The "Mario running around spheres" half became Mario Galaxy's concept. Miyamoto more or less said that there never was a Mario 128 as a full game. The concept of Mario Galaxy had been floating around for years, but GameCube couldn't do it. They converted an unknown project into Mario Sunshine to tide people over and get the GameCube it's Mario game since their unnamed primary project (Galaxy) was stalling out.

Really, I don't want a Mario and Zelda next year. I'm sick and damn tired of people acting like the only three franchises Nintendo has are Mario, Zelda, and Metroid. People ignored Smash Bros. with the rest of the lot until Nintendo started c*ck-teasing us in 2005 and Sakurai gave us another one. I suppose most people had stopped wishing for one when he left Nintendo, but the company sucked up their pride and made it happen. I don't want another one of "The Big Three". Hell, give us our Star Fox, but give us an internal Star Fox. I won't buy another one that's been farmed out. Give us a new F-Zero from Sega/Sumo Digital that's rumored. I heard from my inner circle that Nintendo sent them the assets to F-Zero GX over a year ago. As for Kirby? Just port Air Ride from GameCube ala Jungle Beat and add in some new content. That game was 3x better than Mario Kart Double Dash.

I'm as glad as the next guy that we're getting Punch Out! next year. It's fan service, and I'm happy to know they listened, but their 2008 release calendar was finished when Mario Kart came out. Animal Crossing can't carry a release list. I suppose it should have been expected that a drought was coming sooner or later since the Wii launch missed it, but at least it should be ending soon.

I'm about to hax my Wii so I can play Tatsunoko vs. Capcom. Then all will be well.

Good man. Thank heavens for the Homebrew Channel. I'd be playing that too if I had the cash.

[愛]

Who said I was buying it? :shifty:

[Mecha Cow]

Now Ai, as our resident Japanophile you of all people should know that ninjas are way cooler than pirates.

^ Werd. Too bad I was an idiot and updated to Menu System 3.4. Now nothing loads up in my Homebrew Channel.
I'm pretty sure the 3.4 update has already been bypassed; you should be able to reinstall everything using a new version of the Twilight Hack. Do some digging here (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Main_Page).

[Ninjinister]

ago. As for Kirby? Just port Air Ride from GameCube ala Jungle Beat and add in some new content.

I'd much rather they just release this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILXkySK95po

[Kid Icarus]

Tatsunoko vs. Capcom looks like pure bliss.

Which Street Fighter should I get from the Virtual Console? It's SSF2T, right?

I don't want a Kirby racing game. I want a new platformer. One that's stupidly easy, but insanely fun. Then give every enemy in the game it's own power Kirby can absorb, make them all at least slightly useful, and I'll be happy.

And TMB... we're WAY overdue for a solid Star Fox game. Assault wasn't too bad until you had to go out on foot, but I'd rather they stick to Arwings, Landmasters, and toss in a few more of the underwater levels.

[R-iZZy]

Now Ai, as our resident Japanophile you of all people should know that ninjas are way cooler than pirates.


I'm pretty sure the 3.4 update has already been bypassed; you should be able to reinstall everything using a new version of the Twilight Hack. Do some digging here (http://www.wiibrew.org/wiki/Main_Page).

Awesome, much props to you! I found a way to downgrade from 3.4U to 3.2U. Everything's back in motion now. :thumbsup:

[ThirdMarioBro]

It would appear that this dude (http://fzerovs.blogspot.com/) has managed to fulfill a childhood dream of mine. The original F-Zero is now a two-four player game!

A custom track (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U3nxeqoFAk) with the new F-Zero track editor.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Essentially it's Nintendo Robot Chicken. Greatest flash movie ever.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/432427 (#1)
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/476976 (#2)

[Brodie]

That was the biggest waste of my life, ever. Second only to seeing the SPirit.

I ****ing hate you.

[Ecto Jedi]

I thought it was pretty neat.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Okay, so I'd say Nintendo sucks, but I think we've long since established that fact. Hudson is pulling their support of the Virtual Console in the US and Nintendo's releases have dragged to a near standstill. Sega has almost stopped releasing games as well. All the while, PSOne games are coming in like crazy on PSN for only $5 a pop.

Kiss my ass Nintendo. I'm resuming my plans to build a TV Rom Box.

[Cure]

Essentially it's Nintendo Robot Chicken. Greatest flash movie ever.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/432427 (#1)
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/476976 (#2)

Hahaha, I love Newgrounds.

[Peanut]

I posted those videos like...6 months ago? Maybe more?

And who wants to play the sh*t they release on PSN? Yeah, let's all go play Mr. Domino and Syphon Filter!

[Cure]

I posted those videos like...6 months ago? Maybe more?

Well, the second was just submitted a few days ago, but yeah, I knew the first one felt familiar to me.

[JameO]

Essentially it's Nintendo Robot Chicken. Greatest flash movie ever.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/432427 (#1)
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/476976 (#2)

Good videos, but is there a need for the OVER endowed women on the loading screen, Rumble Roses all over again!!

[ThirdMarioBro]

And who wants to play the sh*t they release on PSN? Yeah, let's all go play Mr. Domino and Syphon Filter!

Nobody needs to play that sh*t. I was just pointing out that they charge only $5 for a 32-bit game, while Nintendo charges $10 for fu*king Neo Turf Masters.

Screw them. I'm going to build a TV Rom box and install this sucker on it.

9whv6RKquRw

[Cure]

Everyone check out some patents (http://gonintendo.com/?p=68573) that came up. Looks like it could be the next Zelda.

EDIT: More info. (http://kotaku.com/5127251/nintendo-kind-code-patent-reveals-potential-paradigm-shift-in-design)

[Peanut]

It sounds like Alone in the Dark, to be honest. With it's DVD style presentation. One interesting thing is the ability to watch a developer play through the game, then jump in at any point. I could see myself, and especially Ai, just queuing this up on games we've already beaten just to watch it when we're bored.

Sounds kinda cool, but we'll see what comes of it. Most of these stupid patents rarely lead to anything at all.

[Dr. Doom]

What the ****?

[Mecha Cow]

Sounds like a feature that could be really easily abused, both by players and lazy designers. I don't like the idea, but it's really way too early to make a judgment.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Having lived through the water temples, I can understand the need for such an addition. I actually applaud it. This is a good way to give the idiots out there a chance to enjoy the game, but anybody worth their salt can simply turn the feature off. I know that the "help" system in Metroid Prime saved my ass several times. This seems to be an optional extension of that feature.

I do love the idea of utilizing pre-save points after I beat it. That way I can relive moments I want to see again without having to play through the whole adventure. Zelda should have had this feature years ago. Of course, there will be some retards out there who pre-save their way to the end of the game right out of the box, then blame Nintendo for ruining the game for them. But whatever. Idiots will be idiots. This sounds like a good way of balancing things out without actually neutering the experience (like that piece of sh*t Phantom Hourglass).

[Peanut]

Sounds like a feature that could be really easily abused, both by players and lazy designers. I don't like the idea, but it's really way too early to make a judgment.

It isn't too early at all. Alone in the Dark did this exact same thing and it turned out exactly how you would think.

"Should we work harder on this section of the game, so that it's even possible to pass?"
"Why? They can just skip it!"

[Mecha Cow]

"Should we work harder on this section of the game, so that it's even possible to pass?"
"Why? They can just skip it!"
This is exactly what I'm afraid of.

[Peanut]

This is exactly what I'm afraid of.

That's what I'm saying. Alone in the Dark has already done it.

[Brodie]

****ing hate Alone in the Dark....

[Peanut]

I just got my Mario hat DS game rack from Club Nintendo. It's actually a lot cooler than I expected.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I'm sitting on my points. Can't find anything I want, and I'm hoping they'll give away those Super SNES Classic Controllers.

[Peanut]

I doubt they're going to switch things up before the club year ends, so I just went with the game rack. We'll still be getting the special platinum gift later on, anyways.

[Chrissie Terrapin]

lately I've only been playing Wii fitness. I should finish up Mario soon

[Ninjinister]

lately I've only been playing Wii fitness. I should finish up Mario soon

Which Mario? I presume you mean Galaxy, but I would rather not jump to conclusions....

[Hannah]

It's just "Wii Fit".

[Chrissie Terrapin]

yup galaxy hehe^^

when I've finished it I can borrow Zelda from a friend while he borrows Mario.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://pole.sega.jp/

Why the hell is there an off-color 1UP mushroom on a Sega hosted website that plays an inverted 1UP sound when you click it and a countdown on the bottom of the page?

I'm worried.

[Ninjinister]

http://pole.sega.jp/

Why the hell is there an off-color 1UP mushroom on a Sega hosted website that plays an inverted 1UP sound when you click it and a countdown on the bottom of the page?

I'm worried.

Ha ha, I sat there spamming the Sega logo. Nostalgia can be good sometimes.

[Chrissie Terrapin]

I started to spam on that shroom too

[Peanut]

http://pole.sega.jp/

Why the hell is there an off-color 1UP mushroom on a Sega hosted website that plays an inverted 1UP sound when you click it and a countdown on the bottom of the page?

I'm worried.

Even more strange

http://www.mmv.co.jp/special/game/30/

This one is totally the Triforce.

[Brodie]

What the **** is going on?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Now I'm officially scared. Don't touch my Triforce Sega. Go touch yourselves instead.

Marvelous Entertainment, eh? Don't they do Harvest Moon?

[Peanut]

I'm pretty sure they just recently started publishing games in the NA. I know they did one of the DS Harvest Moon games, and the one on the Wii, probably. But, they're a producer, so I have no idea what they'd be up to.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=20487

http://dod.vgmix.com/past/mag7/01-Shnabubula-Medley-Mushrooms-DoD.mp3

You ever wanted to hear what Super Mario World sounds like on drugs? If you ever liked SNES music at any point in life, listen to this OC Remix in progress. Made using only SNES stock samples, and a MSX square wave near the end.

Fu*ked. Up.

[Peanut]

ROFL! WTF!? I love it. It's insane and awesome!

[Ninjinister]

The 'shroom's doing something different now....

[Peanut]

It turns red when you mouse over it, making its resemblance to the Mario mushroom even more pronounced. What the hell is going on here?

[raphael_is_cool]

Anyone hoping The House of the Dead: Overkill turns out okay? I'm not a big Wii fan but we have one now (shared Christmas present that I hardly play) and the game looks alright.

[Peanut]

It certainly has the most bad ass gun peripheral to be released for the Wii, thus far.

And, I mean, it's an on-rails shooting game. It's usually just stylistic and aesthetic choices that make or break them. They're all essentially the exact same game, anyways.

[raphael_is_cool]

Yeah. The gun thing looks awesome.

I was reading a preview and it sounded a lot better than similar games though. Since it's not an arcade port you can complete in under an hour, it's a fully fleshed out game made for a console.

I'll just have to see what the reviews say, I guess.

[Peanut]

The Mushroom mystery is solved (http://kotaku.com/5136746/sega-is-counting-down-to-a-wiiware-game).

Hmm. Well...yes...I suppose.

[Ninjinister]

Sega's "Shroom" game revealed?

http://kotaku.com/5136746/sega-is-counting-down-to-a-wiiware-game

EDIT: Beat me to it, 'nut. Ah well.

[Barkworm]

Wow. How exciting.

[Ninjinister]

Totally warranted a countdown clock, right?

[ThirdMarioBro]

...........meh.

[Peanut]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44717.html

WTF?

It's like an attempt at ripping off Mario, except it just looks dumb as sh*t. I get that it's supposed to be a send-up of NES platformers, but they could have tried not to make it looks so dull, or at least attempt to make it semi-amusing.

[Mecha Cow]

That looks retarded. They pretend it's derivative on purpose as some sort of homage, but it adds nothing and just comes off stupid. Also, if you're going to make a faux-8 bit platformer, don't use things like sprite rotating and clashing resolutions, for f*cks sake.

[Ecto Jedi]

Jesus, that looks dreadful. News of an 8-bit Mario parody peaked my interest but...Really, this is it?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Funny. That's exactly what I thought Mega Man 9 was going to turn out to be. Instead, we got a real, legit, honest NES tribute.

This sh*t looks disgusting...then again, it is Sega. Feels like some crappy first-gen Master System garbage. Flash games look better.

[GK Punk]

TMB, Master System > You

[Cure]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44717.html

WTF?

It's like an attempt at ripping off Mario, except it just looks dumb as sh*t. I get that it's supposed to be a send-up of NES platformers, but they could have tried not to make it looks so dull, or at least attempt to make it semi-amusing.

Yeah, that looks pretty bad. I like how he walks for quite a while with nothing in sight.

[Ninjinister]

.......Lame!

[ThirdMarioBro]

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[Peanut]

How can there even be an argument between NES and Master System? The only thing that could possibly factor in to someone thinking Master System was better is nostalgia.

Of course, as Nintendo fans continue to prove, nostalgia can prove to be everything in such a case.

[愛]

NES is a pretty clutch system, sans the amount of frustration you feel for every game that you play. :cry:

[GK Punk]

NES > Master System.
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Oh there's no disagreeing with that.

[LeoNerdo]

.....so anyways, how bout the new Indiana Jones game? no gameplay footage or real info but could turn out to be awesome. it's piqued my interest anyways...
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/01/23/indiana-jones-and-the-staff-of-kings-swings-onto-wii-ds-in-spri/

[Dr. Doom]

The ****ing Virtual Boy is better than TMB.

[Mecha Cow]

How was MM9 a 'legit, honest NES tribute'? I know a lot of people dug the return to the 8-bit style and that's fine, but let's not pretend there's some deeper artistic merit to recycling a bunch of 20-year-old sprites.

[Peanut]

How many of these logo's can you guys pick out? Some of them completely stump me.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/01/RansomLetter.jpg

[Brodie]

Zelda, pac man, super Mario world, EWJ, Turok, tetris, Poke'mon, PS3, Rayman,Halo, Bioshock, Ghost Recon, Wii, n64,Medal of Honor, Call of Duty, GTA, Tomb Raider, Metroid, Rockband, Lair, Final Fantasy, Alone in the Dark, Little Big Planet, Gears of War, Banjo, Star Fox,Assassin's Creed, EGM, Nintendo Power, Donkey Kong, Left 4 Dead, Rainbow 6 ( ? ).....

I'm missing like, the the O in "mario", the A and first L in ALL, the M and E in me,

[GK Punk]

I think the M in Me is jet force jemini

[Peanut]

The A in all is from Haze, I'm pretty sure.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I gotta' send that to my friend.

[Demented Utrom]

Some of game logos, are hard to pick out.The ones I can pick out are Nintendo 64 and Zelda.
I have no idea about the other ones.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Aren't you supposed to be dead?

[Wingnut]

The E in Me is from Geometry Wars Galaxies, and I think the first L in All is from Kane & Lynch.

[Barkworm]

Some of game logos, are hard to pick out.The ones I can pick out are Nintendo 64 and Zelda.
I have no idea about the other ones.
BRAVO!!! *claps*

[Kid Icarus]

The ****ing Virtual Boy is better than TMB.
3DO > Dr. Doom

LAWL!

As for the image, starting with the Z at the end and working to the begining: Links Awakening, Nintendo Power, Earth Worm Jim, Mario, Pac-Man, Tetris, Turok... OH LOOK A SHINY BIRD OVER THERE *ADD*

[Hannah]

The 3DO was advanced for it's time! Jerk!

Also, that's not what ADD is like. :cry:

[Kid Icarus]

As was the Virtual Boy ;)

Besides that, it was just a joke. Cheer up Hannah, you're eye liner's running. :D

[Hannah]

If I was serious I wouldn't have used the :cry: face.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Time for you bastards to suffer.

JwLLwpRfl-8

[Peanut]

F*cking Daytona. F*CK! I'd forgotten all about it. THANKS!

[Ninjinister]

The reason the Sega's pseudo-retro game is called "Pole's Big Adventure"....


http://kotaku.com/5145115/sega-finally-brings-boners-to-wiiware

Eww...

[Peanut]

I've actually seen a couple videos that make me more and more interested in this ridiculous game.

[Ninjinister]

So Dead Space (http://kotaku.com/5145788/dead-space-wii-announced) is coming to the Wii...

Yeah....

[Mecha Cow]

Lol....

Wiimote controls à la RE4 Wii would be nice, but I can't say I had any problems with the regular controls.

A downgrade in graphics and sound would hurt the game immensely, but I guess the more people get to play the game (more or less) the better.

[Dr. Doom]

I didn't even know they were remaking Metroid Prime with this New Play Control thing. I nearly shat myself. They need to get Luigi's Mansion going!

[LeoNerdo]

I didn't even know they were remaking Metroid Prime with this New Play Control thing. I nearly shat myself. They need to get Luigi's Mansion going!

Yeah the Metroid Prime 3 controls were sweet and MP1 was my favorite but I dunno if I could spend $30 on it again. Luigi's Mansion was pretty short though, they'd have to like double that game up with new stuff for me to pay for it again.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I heard Retro is involved in the Metroid remakes, so it should probably be a solid. Best GameCube game ever mixed with the most well thought out Wii control layout should make for a memorable experience. I don't have the time to go through it again though. Too many current games I'm behind on.

And screw a Luigi remake. I want a Luigi's Mansion sequel instead with a behind Luigi camera perspective. They can't claim the game didn't sell enough to warrant a sequel. It pulled in 3.5 mil (on a disappointing console) if I remember.

[Ninjinister]

So it seems that if your PS3 and/or 360 game has "Dead" in the title, once it's proved itself popular, it will release on Wii.

Left 4 Dead Wii, here I come....

[Ra]

And screw a Luigi remake. I want a Luigi's Mansion sequel instead with a behind Luigi camera perspective. They can't claim the game didn't sell enough to warrant a sequel. It pulled in 3.5 mil (on a disappointing console) if I remember.
Hell yes. All the cool kids saved up money for Luigi back in the day. I'm surprised that there hasn't been a squeal yet to be honest.

[Peanut]

I heard Retro is involved in the Metroid remakes, so it should probably be a solid. Best GameCube game ever mixed with the most well thought out Wii control layout should make for a memorable experience.

Ha. The Wind Waker says hello to that piece of sh*t. Or Sunshine...or Smash...or TTYD...

And anyone who re-buys ANY of these f*cking "Wiimakes" needs a swift kick in their non-existent testicles. This is why Nintendo sh*ts on us on a regular basis.

[Barkworm]

Ha. The Wind Waker says hello to that piece of sh*t. Or Sunshine...or Smash...or TTYD...
Wind Waker, yes! But Sunshine??!! Pffff...

[ThirdMarioBro]

Ha. The Wind Waker says hello to that piece of sh*t. Or Sunshine...or Smash...or TTYD...

And anyone who re-buys ANY of these f*cking "Wiimakes" needs a swift kick in their non-existent testicles. This is why Nintendo sh*ts on us on a regular basis.

And this is only the beginning. We're screwed. Mario Power Tennis has been the #1 game in Japan for like a month now. All the dev resources are going to casual sh*t while the stupid fanboys lap up these GameCube remakes for 2009 of games which are still warm on the shelf. Fu*k Nintendo.

[Cure]

I REALLY hope like, 5 years down the line Nintendo gets their sh*t back together.

[Peanut]

I really hope the bottom falls out of the casual market, and they have to come crawling back to the people that kept them alive for 2 generations. Assholes.

[Golden ShredHead]

2009 ain't gonna be too good this year for Nintendo fans. No big games coming until we've reached 2011.

[Dr. Doom]

Everyone sounds like they've just woken up from a coma and are shocked to find out what's become of their beloved Nintendo. "This is just the beginning"? Where the hell have you been for the past 2.5 years?

And **** you, I'm gonna buy the HELL out of that Prime remake.

[Peanut]

And that's why you're the reason that the Wii continues to be a wasteland of shovelware and regurgitated Nintendo nonsense.

But, whatever. I'm content playing real games on my 360 and PS3.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Meh, I don't think Nintendo will survive the eventual casual fallout. They're too heavily invested in it, and their backup market (us) is seriously deteriorated. Most of their core fans are moving on, and rightfully so. I'm pretty sure E3 2009 is the last shot to shore up any more of that brand loyalty, and after last year's showing, I don't hold up any hope.


But, whatever. I'm content playing real games on my 360 and PS3.

Yep, pretty much...at least until Sony and Microsoft begin to focus on casual motion control games next-gen. I get the feeling that the next Xbox (if they even keep that name, which I doubt) won't even be recognizable.

[Peanut]

They've gained too much ground in their current market to attempt a Nintendo-esque jump into casual territory. I could see them expanding their casual horizons significantly, but they won't altogether abandon the hardcore the way Nintendo has. They've got a much better grasp of balancing their presence in both markets than Nintendo has shown thus far, that's for sure.

No one is going to throw away a number 1 position in a market this big for a piece of a separate pie. Nintendo was coming off of two generations in last place, the only way they could make an impact was to go-for-broke and try something new.

Thinking Microsoft will drop out of the race with Sony, while simultaneously abandoning the Xbox name, a name which they've driven into the popular culture as much as Sony did with the Playstation in the PS1 era, is f*cking lunacy.

[Dr. Doom]

Listen, **** you AGAIN. If they made a Wii version of Viva Pinata or something where the controls were actually better, you'd be all about it and nobody would be riding your ass for any good reason. And I know that it's not even ****ing possible for Viva Pinata because it's made by Rare, I'm just making a point. If it's a ****** port, then I won't bother. But if it actually is an improvemnt and is offered at a reasonable price I don't have anything to be ashamed of. Metroid Prime is one of the best games I've ever played and the fact that they're bringing it back out for more people to enjoy is a wonderful thing.

P.S.: How the **** did a Rare game end up on DS?

[Peanut]

I already own 3 copies of the original Viva Pinata!

And Nintendo is re-releasing old games, instead of making new ones we care about! How can you justify that!? If they were still making new games, I wouldn't give a sh*t if they re-released the entire Gamecube library.

[Dr. Doom]

Lulz.

If it was good, you know you'd buy a 4th!

[Peanut]

No! I have the original 360 version, the SE and the GFW version. That's enough!

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://www.vc-reviews.com/news/2009/02/rumour_earthbound_not_coming_to_virtual_console

So Earthbound is apparently never coming to the Virtual Console because the music is too similar to some other songs (http://earthboundcentral.com/2009/02/earthbound-music-similarities/). Nintendo of America (the Ted Turner of video games) wants to change out the music (which is unacceptable to me personally), but Nintendo of Japan will have no part of it. Thus the game is effectively banned from North America.

I'm glad I quit giving those motherfu*kers money for their overpriced Roms a long time ago.

[Ryona]

Well, I finally got a Wii.
I need opinions of the top five games I should get. Preferably each of a different genre.

[Peanut]

Not too far back Hannah asked the same question. We've answered it a dozen times on here. I'm thinking we should just make a thread with the best games to get for every console, because it's such a frequently asked question.

[Barkworm]

Since there are only five good games on the Wii, it's pretty easy: Super Mario Galaxy is by far the best game on the system. Smash Bros Brawl is also a safe recommendation. Zack and Wiki is fun but also very annoying at times. "Twilight Princess" and "Resident Evil 4" are pretty good ports of Game Cube games. Also I personally loved Super Mario Kart but opinions are very mixed on that one.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, I finally got a Wii.
I need opinions of the top five games I should get. Preferably each of a different genre.

PM me your friend code. I want your Mii.

[Ryona]

Not too far back Hannah asked the same question. We've answered it a dozen times on here. I'm thinking we should just make a thread with the best games to get for every console, because it's such a frequently asked question.

Okay, I checked, and it looks like the same list Barkworm gave. Also there was some debate on some game called No More Heroes.


PM me your friend code. I want your Mii.

Do I need the Wii connected to the Internet for that?

I probably sound like a noob asking that...

[Barkworm]

That reminds me, two of my pupils asked for my friendcode yesterday, I told them I don't know it (which is true). Those brats asking me about their homework via messenger is just what I need. LOL

[Mecha Cow]

Exchanging contact info with students is never a good idea. Kicking their ass in Brawl might be worth it, though.

[ThirdMarioBro]

That reminds me, two of my pupils asked for my friendcode yesterday, I told them I don't know it (which is true). Those brats asking me about their homework via messenger is just what I need. LOL

Don't do it. I still remember when I gave my former boss my gamertag. Bad idea. Being told they need you to come in while in the middle of a chainsaw fight isn't a good feeling.


Do I need the Wii connected to the Internet for that?

I probably sound like a noob asking that...

Yes, you do. If you've got a wireless router, then you can just set the Wii up to connect to that. If not, you'd have to get this (http://www.amazon.com/Wii-Net-Connect-Nintendo/dp/B000X2DP8O/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1235464476&sr=8-1) to hook it to the web through your computer. And the Wii will only work online with broadband (which seems stupid for what little it does online, but whatever). That's how you get the Wii online. Hope that helps. :)

[Peanut]

You could also get the USB Wi-Fi dongle, which means no need to mess with wires, and the Wii picks it up really quickly without any hassle.

Edit: ****! I was really looking forward to Mad World as something I could FINALLY play on my Wii, but the info just came out that the game runs in 480i. What a bunch of complete bullsh*t. Is this 1998 or something? This garbage is inexcusable at this point. The Wii is such a tremendous piece of sh*t.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Pretty much. I don't see a damned thing coming this year I'm interested in. I'm sure Nintendo will announce their casualized Zelda at E3, but I really don't want it. I want the 2nd tier stuff we used to get on GameCube, but if it isn't Mario/Zelda/Metroid, it seems they aren't touching it.


Random fact: I stuck Stunt Race FX into my SNES last night on a lark (to laugh at the bad graphics and seizure educing framerate) and realized there was a third cup. I've had that game 16 freaking years and never bothered to press up on the track select screen. Jesus, I feel like a complete douche.

[Dr. Doom]

It's also taken you quite a while to realize you're a complete douche.

[Peanut]

Oh, Doom! We hate you just as much!

[ThirdMarioBro]

Man, I really need to build a PC Rom box to go with the PS360 when I have the money.

Ocarina of Time in HD
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Ocarina of Time cel-shaded
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[Peanut]

Why is the dude who posted that on Youtube acting like this is something new? You emulate a 64 game on your PC and up the resolution...and? I've been doing that with 64 games for years. I played through Banjo-Kazooie on my PC and it looked better than the 360 port.

The cel-shaded thing, however? F*cking awesome.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I don't think it's the resolution that matters as much as the 16:9 aspect ratio. I'd love to play N64/Dreamcast games in true widescreen (plus enhanced textures) without slowdown. There were a small handful of N64 titles that supported 16:9 (mostly Rare/Factor 5 stuff), but the framerates chugged so poorly you'd have a seizure. Emulations don't suffer from that.

[Mecha Cow]

Those mods were pretty lame, but damn it, now I want to play OoT again.

[ThirdMarioBro]

New classic controller just hit Japan.

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/thumb_classic_pro_photo.jpg

I have laid eyes upon the perfect controller. It's now got the two sets of L & R buttons in the correct placement (ala PlayStation standard), but with a patented Nintendo + pad rather than the crappy 4-way D-pad Sony's been peddling since 1994. They moved the cord to the back (where it belongs) and added some comfort grips. Perfect controller.

[愛]

Someone at Sony is going to be a bit upset. It looks awesome, though. Definitely something to be used in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.

[Dr. Doom]

I hope we get to use it for some new games as well. Assuming we ever get it over here.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Someone at Sony is going to be a bit upset.

They had it coming for originally ripping off the SNES pad some 16 years ago. I've always wanted a PlayStation controller with a Nintendo build, and this is essentially it. Even if Nintendo doesn't ever make another game I'd ever want to buy (which isn't so unlikely anymore), I'd still want that controller.

[Peanut]

You'll especially not have anything to play with it now that Nintendo have released a list of 120 games coming to the Wii and DS this year.

Wii
2K Sports
Major League Baseball® 2K9 - March 3
Don King Boxing - March 31

Activision
X-Men Origins: Wolverine - May
Ice Age 3 - June 30
Transformers™: Revenge of the Fallen - June

Aksys Games
Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus - May 12

Atari
Ready 2 Rumble Revolution - March 17
Backyard Baseball 10 - March 31

Capcom Entertainment Inc.
MotoGP™ - Spring

Codemasters Inc
Overlord Dark Legend - Summer

Conspiracy Games
Real Heroes: Firefighter - April

Deep Silver, Inc.
Professor Heinz Wolff's Gravity - April
Fritz Chess - May

Disney Interactive Studios
Hannah Montana The Movie - April

Electronic Arts
TRIVIAL PURSUIT™ - March
MySims™ Party - March
EA SPORTS Active™ - May 19
Tiger Woods PGA TOUR® 10 - June
BOOM BLOX™ Bash Party - Spring
MySims™ Racing - Summer
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince™ - Summer
G.I. JOE™ The Rise of Cobra - Summer
EA SPORTS Tennis (working title) - Summer

Hudson Entertainment
Help Wanted - Summer

Konami Digital Entertainment, Inc.
DanceDanceRevolution® Disney Grooves - April 2
Yu-Gi-Oh! ™ 5D's Wheelie Breakers - May 19

LucasArts
Indiana Jones® and the Staff of Kings™ - Late Spring

NAMCO BANDAI Games America Inc
Klonoa® - Q2

Nintendo
New Play Control! Pikmin™ - March 9
New Play Control! Mario Power Tennis™ - March 9
Excitebots: Trick Racing - April 20
New Play Control! Donkey Kong Jungle Beat - May 4
Punch-Out!! - May 18

SEGA of America
Virtua Tennis™ 2009 - May
The Conduit™ - June
Let's Tap™ - June

Southpeak Interactive
Roogoo Twisted Towers™ - April 7
Pirates vs Ninjas Dodgeball™ - April 21

Zoo Games, Inc.
M&M's Beach Party - March 10
Puzzle Kingdoms - March 31
Garfield Gets Real - April 7
Pennzoil's Build-N-Race: "Speed Demons" - April 14
Jelly Belly Ballistic Beans - April 21
Smiley World Island Challenge - April 28
Garfield's Pet Force - June 9

Nintendo DS
2K Sports
MLB® 2K9 Fantasy All-Stars - March 3
Don King Boxing - March 31

Activision
X-Men Origins: Wolverine - May
Ice Age 3 - June 30
Transformers™: Revenge of the Fallen - June

Activision/RedOctane
Guitar Hero® On Tour: Modern Hits - June

Aksys Games
Jake Hunter Detective Chronicles: Memories of the Past - May 26
Rockin' Pretty - June 23

Aspyr Media, Inc.
Treasure World™ - June

Atari
Backyard Baseball '10 - March 31
My Horse and Me Riding For Gold - March 31

Atlus U.S.A., Inc.
TrackMania® DS - March 17
Tokyo Beat Down™ - March 31
The Dark Spire™ - April 14
Dokapon Journey™ - April 14
Steal Princess™ - April 21
101 in 1 Explosive Megamix - April 21
Super Robot Taisen® OG Saga:Endless Frontier™ - April 28
Knights in the Nightmare™ - June 2
Shin Megami Tensei®: Devil Survivor™ - June 23

Capcom
Mega Man Starforce 3 Black Ace - June
Mega Man Starforce 3 Red Joker - June

Codemasters Inc
Overlord Minions - Summer

Deep Silver, Inc.
Pet Vet: Down Under - March
Professor Heinz Wolff's Gravity - April
Elite Forces: Unit 77 - April
DJ Star - May
Fritz Chess - May
The Humans - May
Horoscope DS - May

Disney Interactive Studios
Hannah Montana The Movie - April

DreamCatcher
Dreamer: Shop Owner - April 21
Dreamer: Babysitter - April 21
Dreamer: Teacher - April 21
Prank'd - May 19

Electronic Arts
Zubo™ - March 10
Henry Hatsworth in the Puzzling Adventure™ - March 17
MySims™ Party - March
SCRABBLE™ - March
LITTLEST PET SHOP Spring™ - March
MySims™ Racing - Summer
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince™ - Summer

Hudson Entertainment
Miami Law - Summer

KOEI
Monster Racers™ - June

Konami Digital Entertainment, Inc.
Magician's Quest: Mysterious Times™ - May 5
Yu-Gi-Oh!™ 5D's Stardust Accelerators World Championship 2009 - May 19

LucasArts
Indiana Jones® and the Staff of Kings™ - Late Spring

Majesco Entertainment
Puffins: Island Adventure - April 14
Powerbike - April 28
Drama Queens - May
Marker Man Adventures - May
Hot 'n' Cold - May
Dawn of Heroes - June

MumboJumbo
Crazy Chicken Star Karts - March 31
Crazy Chicken Atlantis Quest - April 28
Crazy Chicken The Pharaoh's Treasure - June 2
7 Wonders II - June 30

Nintendo
Rhythm Heaven - April 5
Personal Trainer: Walking - May 25
The Legendary Starfy - June 8

PopCap Games, Inc.
Peggle™ Dual Shot - March 3

Rockstar Games
Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars - March 17

Southpeak Interactive
Roogoo Attack™ - April 7

THQ
Desktop Tower Defense - April 29

Ubisoft
Imagine® Makeup Artist - May 5
Imagine® Music Fest - May 5
Imagine® Boutique Owner - May 26
My Healthy Cooking Coach - June 2
Petz® Fashion: Dogz and Catz - June 9
Jake Power Soccer Club - June 16

Valcon Games
History Channel: Great Empires: Rome - March 17

Zoo Games, Inc.
Yamaha Supercross - March 10
Hands On!: Tangrams - March 24
Puzzle Kingdoms - March 31
Garfield Gets Real - April 7
Jelly Belly Ballistic Beans - April 21
Smiley World Island Challenge - April 28
Garfield's Pet Force - June 9

ROFL!

[ThirdMarioBro]

I tried to read through that list this morning. I had to stop when I felt my soul crying tears of blood. Really Nintendo, burn in hell.

There's this borderline man child over at the Kombo forums (mikewolfskin is his name) who as little as three years ago was one of those psycho fanboys. We're talking about a guy who couldn't write at a third grade level, and regularly offered forum sigs that portrayed his Nintendo DS as a hot Asian chick making out with him. He was known for spamming reader comments with Nintendo PR rhetoric and worshiping Reggie like some sort of Greek god. His incessant hatred for all things non-Nintendo got him banned more than once, and he was pretty much the bane of anybody who ever went near those forums.

...he just sold his Wii and bought a 360. I think that pretty much sums it up.

[Cure]

Klonoa is the only one that sticks out from that list.

[Peanut]

The Nintendo Seal of Quality is HILARIOUS!

[Dr. Doom]

Thank you for calling Gamestop, where you can reserve.........uhm......Jelly Belly Ballstic Beans.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I just stumbled into this (http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/167) ROM patch by accident. Apparently somebody else noticed that one little flaw in Super Mario All-Stars where in Super Mario Bros. if you hit a block, Mario doesn't rebound from it like he should and instead keeps going up into it. It was always odd, because All-Stars was essentially a port of the Mario source code, so it always stuck out that EAD flubbed that little important aspect of Super Mario Bros.'s physics. That little physics flaw was also the only thing (nostalgia aside) keeping the 8-bit version technically superior.

Just something that bugged me every time I picked it up. Now it's fixed. :)

[Ninjinister]

I hope to God this doesn't go the way of the DS version....

http://kotaku.com/5163631/a-boy-and-his-blob-return-to-wii