The Nintendo Discussion Thread [Archive] - Page 3

ThirdMarioBro

02-14-2005, 02:53 PM

Yes sirs, news coming up

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EA May Buy More Of Ubisoft February 11, 2005

by: Matt Saunderson

EA may try to purchase more stake in Ubisoft.

Electronic Arts this week stated that it may attempt to add to its current stake in Ubisoft, in addition to seeking representation on Ubisoft's board.

The statement follows a prior statement last month in which EA said that it wanted to "keep all its options open regarding this investment in Ubisoft and could buy more Ubisoft shares, possibly a controlling stake".

Ubisoft says that it plans to fight EA's "hostile" moves and any attempt at a takeover.

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Honestly, who didn't see that coming. :roll:

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Pac-Man Pinball
Now it's Pac-Man's turn to become a pinball wizard. First details and footage right here.
By Craig Harris
February 9, 2005 - Kirby's done it. Mario's done it. And now, it's Pac-Man's turn to hit the targets in a life-sized pinball adventure. Namco's heavyhitter action hero's been put to use in many different game designs, and along with the many unique appearances that are in store for our hero Pac-Man, the company's sending him for a roll on the Game Boy Advance for a release this spring in Pac-Man Pinball Advance

This isn't the first time there's been a Pac-Man-branded pinball game from the company. Fans of the dot-eating series may remember Baby Pac-Man, a combination old-school videogame with a miniature pinball table as the basis. There was also a full-sized pinball machine released in the mid-80s during the golden age of the flipper, before the days of dot matrix score displays and auto-saving multiball. But this is the first roly-poly video pinball rendition of a Pac-Man game outside of the similarly titled Pac-Man Pinball for mobile phones.
The Game Boy Advance version of Pac-Man Pinball is in development at Human Soft, the team responsible for Namco's upcoming Ace Combat Advance. The company's pinball design will feature three huge scrolling tables of different themes, including tables revolving around Machine World as well as the ever-popular Pac-Land, with players sending Pac-Man on a ricocheting, bouncy ride to eat up dots and munch ghosts for the highest score possible.

Namco's planning on shipping Pac-Man Pinball Advance for the GBA this spring. It will be a single player affair. Hit the media link below to check out the first game footage from this handheld pinball title.
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Apprently it's the year of the pinball sim or something. At least Samus and Pac-Man could work as pinballs

Oh, and before I forget, Sony's decided to copy the DS's Download play feature in the PSP. How original. :roll:

And DS RPG's could use the touch screen to navigate all themenus and attacks and such I guess, unless they have some special stuff planned of something.

Duke

02-14-2005, 06:10 PM

Hmm...What's the deal w/ all the pinball games? I still enjoy a real pinball machine but all these console/handheld pinball games just don't seem that appealing to me.

Also I guess Nintendo is now a sponser of Fear Factor. I guess this could be pretty good for helping the company shed their so-called "kiddy label" and move to a more adult image. Fear Factor is pretty hardcore for a reality show.

Kid Icarus

02-14-2005, 10:52 PM

And it's one of the most viewed. Good job Reggie! Hit the adult market where they are, don't make them come to you...

ThirdMarioBro

02-14-2005, 11:14 PM

Damn, I never saw that comming. Way to go Reggie!

Jed

02-15-2005, 06:00 AM

How's this for a kick in the teeth. I ordered a DS a few weeks ago along with some of my friends and they've all had theirs delivered. Mine still hadn't arrived this morning so I rang the courier company, and they told me they couldn't find my house!! So now my DS is sitting in some warehouse and God knows when I'll get it! :( They don't even have a collection point.

I just had to give them my uncle's address and hope for the best.

Barkworm

02-15-2005, 06:24 AM

How much did you pay for it?

Jed

02-15-2005, 08:25 AM

How much did you pay for it?

180euro for a DS, Mario 64, demos of Wario Ware and Metroid and a t-shirt. Why?

Barkworm

02-15-2005, 09:01 AM

Oh! So you bought the Limited Edition from Nintendo's official site, right? I thought you imported it.

Jed

02-15-2005, 09:23 AM

Oh! So you bought the Limited Edition from Nintendo's official site, right? I thought you imported it.

Yeah I got it off the official site. I would have imported it if that option hadn't presented itself :lol:

ThirdMarioBro

02-16-2005, 01:38 AM

Just bought Star Fox, and let me tell you, they're all wrong. The foor missions are a blast. The scale is correct, the combat is frantic, the controls are responsive, and the music, oh the MUSIC! ALL Orchestrated stuff, but new and classic. I must tip my hat to Namco as this is the best shotter I've ever played. Hell, Peppy sounds like Mickey Rooney, and that alone kicks up the coolness. I'll save the rest for a review. yeah, it's not the longest experience, but daaaaaamn if it isn;t a blast while it lasts. If you don't own it, you're missing a great time.

As for Wario Ware......purly fu*ked up and that's a GREAT thing. Armpit hair picking, and cleaning Wario's teeth with aa little Punchout on an NES pad. Oh the greatness.

*edit*

My interview with Dylan Cuthbert was cited on the Japanese Nintendo news page as historical info. He showed me in an email. Excuse me while I dance down the street.

*wheeeeeeeeeeee*

Jonatello

02-16-2005, 09:30 PM

TMB, did you write this article?

http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=4209

it's pretty awesome :)

ThirdMarioBro

02-16-2005, 10:51 PM

Yeah, that's mine. It was fun to write :)

Kid Icarus

02-16-2005, 11:20 PM

Congrats TMB!

Looks like I'm gonna have to wait for SF and WWT =\. Stupid checks being sucktacular. Oh well, at least I've got a stereo in my car! w00t!

ThirdMarioBro

02-17-2005, 11:40 AM

Ubisoft has realized the inevitable, so they are now discussing buyout plans, and EA is basically stating "non-conditional". Now foreign companies will be working 14 hour shifts. Sad.

That, and now Fox has decided that they wish to buy out a video game publisher, and they're looking at all of them.

Fu*k American Greed.

愛

02-17-2005, 01:24 PM

I'd say something here, but...I'm going to restrain myself this time. No more being an asshole.

I didn't get a chance to read the article, but judging by the fact that it's 4 f*cking pages long, I'd say that's some good stuff right there by itself. Good job.

jeff the cheff

02-17-2005, 01:34 PM

Wario Ware is pretty ****ed up. It's alright though, so far.

And **** your health and safety!

Kid Icarus

02-17-2005, 11:34 PM

Planet Gamecube is reporting that an arcade version of Mario Kart is comming from Namco, and is on display at the big arcade convention thingy in Japan (think E3 for arcade gamers).

Up to four cabinents can hook up. it's also going to have a NamCam feature where players can take their picture and add goofy hats and stuff to it to use as a place marker on the track. Should be fun...

No plans for a release outside of Japan are announced yet.

ThirdMarioBro

02-18-2005, 02:11 AM

What What What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Arcade Mario Kart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Arrrrrrrgh!!!

Must Have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*PICTURES*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/MKx4.bmp
damn pretty machines and Pac-Man is a playable character. :o

Peanut

02-18-2005, 02:15 PM

That looks totally insane! That's an arcade machine I'd throw money at like no tomorrow.

ThirdMarioBro

02-18-2005, 05:54 PM

Me too :D
More pictures!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/97a1d52e.bmp
Pac-Man throws a Power Pellet

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/mk1.bmp
Fat man in Diamond City

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/aou_n02.jpg
It'll be at E3 I believe.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/aou_n10.jpg
Badass

Also, it seems like coins have returned so that you can use them to buy parts and junk to use on a future home version (Revolution possibly) sort of like what F-Zero AX tried, except on a more affordable scale which means we'll probobly see these things in US arcades. This should be kickass.

愛

02-18-2005, 06:02 PM

Those machines look so badass. It's a shame arcades are a dying business here. The closest decent arcade near me is an hour or so away (Wildwood).

ThirdMarioBro

02-18-2005, 06:07 PM

Yup, but still, I hope these things come over here. At least a home version should come to some system.

Still, two Mario Karts in one year, one for DS, one for Arcade! Whoo-hoo! It's nice to see an arcade game that I wish would come home again. haven't felt like that for years. :)

Mecha Cow

02-18-2005, 06:13 PM

That looks damn good, too bad I'll never get to see or play one.

Peanut

02-18-2005, 06:15 PM

That looks damn good, too bad I'll never get to see or play one.

Same here.

Edit:New Nintendo Minute on IGN

http://cube.ign.com/articles/589/589048p1.html?fromint=1

Duke

02-18-2005, 10:20 PM

Zelda is coming to the DS in a four swords style game. Also the new zelda apparently follows Wind Waker chronologically.

Here is the translated part of the interview, as translated by Babelfish. Of course, there are necessarily some errors in the translation, since it is translated by a program

In an Interview granted to Libération, Eiji Aonuma de Nintendo, which in particular took part in the development of many shutters of the Zelda series, reveals some very interesting information concerning next Zelda on GameCube and Nintendo DS.

Eiji Aonuma (Nintendo) 'There will be without any doubt Zelda for the DS. In fact, you appear that the reflexions which we developed around Four Swords largely contributed to the reflexion which we had to conceive the DS. The concepts with work in Four Swords formed part of the examples that we experienced while thinking on the possible plays for the DS and the advantages that the double screen allows. It was theoretical but today, it would be very a shame, and even ashamed, that one does not make the opposite demonstration: a truth good Zelda on DS. The next episode of Zelda conceived for GameCube is already completed but I can absolutely nothing say some moreover. You know the house: even the title and the topic are still secret. This next large Zelda, which makes continuation with the WindWaker episode chronologically, will leave to Japan at at the end of 2005. I am engaged to 200 % in his development and I can betray one secrecy of it: it will be very, very beautiful.'
Source (http://www.zeldauniverse.net/content/view/300/1/)

Kid Icarus

02-18-2005, 11:53 PM

Same here.

Edit:New Nintendo Minute on IGN

http://cube.ign.com/articles/589/589048p1.html?fromint=1

Good. Finaly someone from Nintendo admits the Gamecube launch SUCKED, and registers how to fix it. About time. NCL needs to listen to NoA more often if you ask me...

And about that Zelda thing... parts of that were mistranslated. It's not finished yet, it's only been announced. We know four facts about it:
1. It's comming out on Gamecube
2. It's comming out in fall/winter 2005 in Japan
3. It comes in after Wind Wakers story
4. "It will be very, very beautiful." - Aonuma

on Zelda DS: I woulden't imagine Zelda on that system in any other form. It was always a bit obvious that they'd do that... infact, wasn't the Zelda DS game called "Zelda: Four Swords DS" at last years E3? If I getta play this online without a linear level structure, i'll be happy.

Mecha Cow

02-19-2005, 03:29 AM

Yeah, they've been saying since E3 that Zelda on DS will be a Four Swords game.

ThirdMarioBro

02-19-2005, 01:15 PM

They should make the 4 Swords game more accessable for single player as there are some of us with no one to play against......or get the damn thing online which would shut me up.

Mecha Cow

02-19-2005, 02:45 PM

Well, FSA was fun on your own...But it was obvious the game was meant to be played in multiplayer.

ThirdMarioBro

02-19-2005, 04:56 PM

Man, Star Fox Assault had one hell of an emotional ending, and they pulled a USS Enterprise with the Great Fox. Damn gutsy of Namco. I tip my hat to them. Most emotional game from Ninty I've seen in a while. Oh, and just because the enemy voices sucked dosen't matter. The core Star Fox team's acting was excellent. Falco sounded badass, Fox's acting felt real, Slippy sounded goofy, but hey, he's slippy;) Peppy sounded like Mickey Rooney, and though played by a different actress, Krystal was perfect. Rob 64 was improved a lot, and Pepper sounded MUCH better. Just wanted to disprove all the gripes about voiceacting. Some people pick apart games rather than just enjoy it. It's like no one can enjoy anything anymore. Bah

Anywho, the game kicked ass. A LOT of ass. Just wanted to say that. There were even a few sex jokes hense the T rating.

XERO

02-19-2005, 05:01 PM

TMB, how is the music of Assault?

ThirdMarioBro

02-19-2005, 05:34 PM

Ah ha! You've come to the right place ;)

The music is fully orchestrated by the Tokyo New City Orchestra. The score is comprised about 50% of various tracks from Star Fox 64, and 50% of new material. The new stuff is EXCELLENT, and sometimes has a techno blend added to the orchestrations. The classic stuff sounds far better than anything from the N64. There's even some Dinosaur Planet stuff in there for the Sauria mission. The real strings really bring the music to life and make you more alert of all the little details. Special recordings were all made for the FMV cinema scenes, but they are also hidden in the discs seperately which makes me believe there is a sound test unlockable.

All in all, the music is the most kickass of the entire Star Fox series. The N64 made a lot of these songs sound a little weak, but that was it's fault. A real orchestra pproves just how powerful the score really is. I highly recomend the game for that reason and all the others. :)

ThirdMarioBro

02-20-2005, 01:40 AM

New day, new post. I thought I'd go looking around for some of NIntendo's upcoming games after finshing Star Fox Assault, and feeling content after seeing the real ending that made me happy.

This game from NIntendo (EAD no less) sure looks different. Every screen gets me more interested. Take a look...

http://ds.advancedmn.com/images/media/another1.jpg

http://ds.advancedmn.com/images/media/another8.jpg

http://ds.advancedmn.com/images/media/another7.jpg

http://ds.advancedmn.com/images/media/another10.jpg

http://ds.advancedmn.com/images/media/another-11.jpg

The more I see, the more I get interested. Hope it comes out this fall or something.

Barkworm

02-20-2005, 03:32 AM

Ah, that's "Another Code", an adventure game. I'm certainly looking forward to it but as far as I know it hasn't been announced for the western market yet. :(

ThirdMarioBro

02-20-2005, 01:35 PM

They had damn well better. If they want to break their so called "kiddy" image, that sucker would go miles to help. That, and I can't play an adventure in Japanese. They had better announce it at E3, or I'll be more than pissed.

Kid Icarus

02-20-2005, 01:37 PM

Ah, but thanks to the DS being region free we can just import it and play off of translation guides on the net! :D.

Barkworm

02-20-2005, 01:38 PM

Me too. That's just the kind of game I want to play on the DS.

Kid Icarus

02-20-2005, 02:06 PM

Keep in mind that Feel the Magic got released here... before Japan got it.

I can see alot of wacky Japanese games comming over here, easily.

Jed

02-20-2005, 04:33 PM

If you guys would like to see it I reviewed Super Mario 64 DS at Spot On Gaming (http://www.spotongaming.co.uk) :) The review is about halfway down the page, under latest reviews.

ThirdMarioBro

02-20-2005, 09:00 PM

Well, this is just funny as hell. Can't believe I never noticed it. Here ya go.

I don't know how many of you have played Wario Land 4, butlisten to the opening theme. Listen to it damn closely. Yeah, the words are a little chunky and muffled, but halfway through the girl singing will utter two words. Keep in mind, these songs came from NCL, and were not messed with by NOA as the GBA was being launched quickly. The same team that did Wario Ware made this game btw.

Halfway through the song, the girl says, and I quote "mother f**ker". Yeah, the queen mother of words. No, I am not kidding. If you have it, fire it up. You can only hear it with headphones or the DS's speakers clearly, but it's there. I can't believe no one has noticed it by now. Can't believe I missed it. Excuse me, but I gotta laugh.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

and people say Nintendo's kiddy. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mecha Cow

02-21-2005, 01:04 AM

What the hell?

Might have to download a [Magic thingy that I can play on my computer] of it just to check that out. :lol:

Kid Icarus

02-21-2005, 12:50 PM

After spending half an hour in target today, i got wario ware. I was gonna get Metroid Prime 2, then Star Fox.... but there was just something about that orange case...

Also, how freaking cool is the income tax return thing? I mean, i work up today with no money, checked my bank account, and suddenly I can buy things again! :D

ThirdMarioBro

02-21-2005, 09:07 PM

Ha ha! Kickass! Have a blast with Wario Ware. It's fun forever.

Barkworm

02-22-2005, 12:49 AM

I PLAYED WITH A DS!!! It's still three weeks to go till it is released here but I found a DS kiosk in an EB games store. I played about 30 seconds of Wario Ware and now I'm even more hyped about it.

Kid Icarus

02-22-2005, 12:58 AM

perfect game to cut your teeth in with ;).

BTW, I made my first C++ program tonight! w00t! I'm SO on my way to programing with Nintendo. Hahah.

I hope there's money left over after I get my brakes fixed... I wanna get that Sprung game, and maybe even Mr. Driller. If I get those 2, that'll make the number of DS games I own equal to the number of GBA games I own. Sad huh?

Mecha Cow

02-22-2005, 01:42 AM

I heard Sprung was a really bad game...

Spitfire

02-22-2005, 01:52 AM

Well Im getting a DS once I save up. Im getting Mr. Driller with it. I played my friends and I like it. No other DS titles out yet that tickle me but if I get bored I can always buy GBA games

Barkworm

02-22-2005, 01:56 AM

I heard Sprung was a really bad game...
Yeah, even IGN said it sucked. And that's saying a lot.

Kid Icarus

02-22-2005, 10:26 AM

And, Spitfire, if you can find people using the Pictochat demo in the mall or what ever, you can send them porly drawn pr0n!

:lol:

Peanut

02-22-2005, 12:59 PM

^^^ :lol:

That's the exact thing me and JameO did on Christmas morning. He was in his living room, I was in mine, WHAM! Penis.

ThirdMarioBro

02-22-2005, 01:00 PM

:lol: Yup, Sprung is a piece of crap. Tried it at Gamestop. It's just poor animation and sex talk. Basically an MTV cartoon with two screens worth of crap. Don't know how it even got released.....oh wait, people will buy anything. :roll:

Bah, not getting off on that again.

Anywho, don't waste your cash. Mr. Driller on the other hand is a blast. The game is relentless and fast. That, and Namco produced limited copies so it could be worth something someday. A very good game.

Peanut

02-22-2005, 01:04 PM

Speaking of games to buy, I'm still at wits end over what I should spend my money on. This is probably the largest amount of money I'll have for a good amount of time, so I don't want to waste it. I'm still aiming at Wario Ware...but $50 for a couple hours of gameplay is kinda getting to me. I know I'd probably play it a ton even after I beat it, but I still don't know.

Kid Icarus

02-22-2005, 02:58 PM

I love this version of Wario Ware... but it's already getting kinda boring.

it just doesn't feel as frantic as the first one did. Add in the fact that it wasn't hard until the VERY LAST level, and it's kinda stupid. I'm still glad I bought it... but yeah.

Next on my list is Mr. Driller.

We've got a TON of games comming out next month though... isn't there like 10 of them?

Duke

02-22-2005, 03:08 PM

Gwgtrunks, that is exactly what i've been saying since i got it. Not that i'm disappointed that i did but it was just a bit of a let down. I honestly think gamestop was right.

Peanut, to be honest it's fun but the replay value for that short of a game isn't very good.

Peanut

02-22-2005, 05:26 PM

I couldn't find it anyways. It wasn't anywhere around here. Maybe we just didn't recieve it here yet. I'll put off on it for awhile then.

ThirdMarioBro

02-22-2005, 08:34 PM

You already have bongos right.....wait Donkey Konga, never mind. Okay, I'd get......damn, that is a hard choice.

Okay, here's some possibilities. There's Resident Evil 4. It's a blooad bath, but I've never played a better bloodbath. It will scare you sh*tless, but it's a blast. You already decided to hold off on Wario Ware, so I'll leave that out. I'd save some cash for Donkey Kong Jungle Beat because it is FUN AS HELL. I played it. Now, I'd also save some cash for Wario Ware Twisted for GBA. It was made by the ame team that made the original, so I have higher hopes for it, and it is supposed to have more microgames than the original did as well. Both of those come out next month.

If you need more, let me know.

Kid Icarus

02-22-2005, 11:35 PM

Or, start stashing for Revolution and Xbox 2 now ;).

I'm not gonna get many more games for Gamecube. Mario 128, the 3D Pokemon RPG, Zelda, and Killer 7 are it, then all my extra cash is going towards Revolution's launch. I'm gonna fully load that sucker. I'm gonna buy every launch game that looks even slightly decent, i'm gonna get an 802.11 g wireless router. I'm gonna get 4 (or more?) controllers.

Hell, if I can get a loan, I'm gonna get a freakin HDTV and a new surround sound system (dolby 6.1 anybody?).

Is it sad that I have this all planned out, and for all we know the Revolution could turn out to be a sack of dog poo with a battery in it (lighter not included)?

ThirdMarioBro

02-23-2005, 12:45 AM

Actually, that sounds like a good plan. I gotta have that Kirby though. 3D Kirby platformer. took 'em damn long enough. I still think Mario will get pushed to Revolution, so after Zelda, that's it. I live on portables and save til Revolution. Just like I lived on GBC until Gamecube launched. Gotta save money cuz I feel this things gonna cost a fu*king fortune. 3.5Ghz, Wi-Fi, possible screen, new controllers, 400MB Ram, and whatever else won't be cheap. Add in all the ATI and IBM chips, and you can outperform most PC's. Not cheap by any means.

Hell, Gamecube has a piss poor 486 and 24MB of Ram, and look at all it's done. I have HIGH hopes for this thing's performance.....but not it's cost.

*edit* Man I dream of a setup like that. I have 4 foot tall surround sound speakers with Dolby 5.1 and iand a subwoofer that can thumps loud enough to blow the sheet rock off the walls. (really, that bad ass could deaphen you :D) My TV on the other hand is a piece of dog sh*t. I usually just play stuff on my PC screen. The LCD makes everything just so crisp and beautiful, but it's only 19". Now, seeing as I'm usually sitting 1 foot in front of it, that's no big deal, but still......HD.... *sigh* :D :D :D

Kid Icarus

02-23-2005, 01:29 AM

Yeah, I'm tagging the launch price at AT LEAST $350.

So, $350 for the console, $120 for three more controllers, $200 on software (four games should be fine...), $50 for the router and $25ish for the 802.11g card for my PC, $1200 for the new TV, and $600 for the new sound system.

*totals it up*

I need to save up a total of $2545 before it launches. Gonna be more like $2600 after taxes...

But if it means I can see the hair folicles and hear them move on Marios scalp... it'll be worth it damnit!

Mecha Cow

02-23-2005, 03:31 AM

You really think the launch price will be that high?

I don't know much about the prices of Revolution's rumored components, but I do know Nintendo has always been really good with pricing.

We'll see I guess.

Peanut

02-23-2005, 06:22 AM

I really don't care what the price is, it will be mine!

Voltron

02-23-2005, 08:41 AM

Kid Icarus

02-23-2005, 12:47 PM

like TMB said, if the 'leaked' stats are true, this thing's gonna out preform 80% of PC's on the market.

That's some freakin hefty computing goin' on in there.

Besides, PS2 launched for $350, and people ate that up, even though the Dreamcast kicked its ass in power. I do belive that the Revoltuion'll be the cheaper of the three. Nintendo can't afford to have ANY weaknesses with this launch if they want what ever freaky new style of gameplay they've cooked up to take off.

Most importantly, we need a first party game and a handful of third parties that show off EVERY feature of the system. That means it needs to be online the day it launches. That means we have to have a game like Mairo 64 to get us used to the new type of controlls, that also feels like a solid game. And they've gotta get third parties to REALLY use the system. Selecting things with a touch screen just won't cut it, ya know?

Duke

02-23-2005, 12:59 PM

The PS2 launched for $300 not $350.

Peanut

02-23-2005, 01:09 PM

I'm sure you guys will get a kick out of this. Taken from an interview with Trip Hawkins. He's the douche bag who founded EA and he created Madden. Anyways here's the quote.

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What do you think about Nintendo's future? People have commented that they should focus only on portable systems in the future.

My magic eight ball says they will be acquired by Microsoft within five years.

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Tycho from PA speaks on my behalf for this comment.

You can do your own research on the man and determine whether or not he is in possession of mighty powers of speculation or indeed something akin to prescience. I submit that he is not. I submit that he spends his day naked in a dunk-tank, and that from time to time a man throws a fish at him which he catches in his mouth.

As for the Nintendo thing, I mean, they're an extremely proud company. They're not going to sell to an American corporation because f*cking Trip Hawkins says so. They didn't come out on top of this generation - in America or Europe, at any rate - but they're hardly destitute. They're not up to their elbows in the couch trying to scratch together some yens.

- Tycho, Penny-Arcade

Mecha Cow

02-23-2005, 02:17 PM

PA speaks the truth as always.

ThirdMarioBro

02-23-2005, 02:17 PM

Tycho is a god, Trip Hawkins is a crack sniffnig bastard. Didn't he move on be president 3DO a long while back? Oh wait they're dead. Just shows his level of "buisness sense" *sniff* Moving on....

Okay, I was digging through some old Gameinformer magazines, and I landed on one from two months ago. I saw something that caught my eye. I didn't know why, but it bugged me. I sat down and did some thinking, and I have a theory about Revolution. If it's true, we'll get our technology, but Nintendo could also help out the poor folk and soccer moms who don't want to spend cash.

Okay, there's a quote in Gameinformer from old man Yamauchi, and he said: "At E3 2005 Nintendo will show a device that will use Gamecube as it's parent body". Okay, now just speculate for a second. A LONG time ago, Iwata stated that "Revolution will be backwards compatable with Gamecube". Okay, so assuming this and the leaked specs, this is the conclusion I came to after talking to a few people with Nintendo contacts at AMN. Still speculation, but based on some good stuff they gave me.

My guess it Revolution will be two devices, or should I say two different packages. One package will be an entirely new console. We know it as Revolution, but that name will change in time just as Dolphin did. It will be an expensive ass box filled with new junk we can't even guess at. The other package will be an infintely cheaper add on that upgrades Gamecube to those specs for people who don't want to crank out the cash for such an expensive piece of hardware. Yeah, that's pretty damn far streched, but it would keep the inevitable INSANE price down. It would also account why Shiggy keeps saying that Super Mario 128 will come out on Gamecube.

I dunno what to make of that one, but it's just one of a zillion guesses. Could be dead on, or dead wrong.

Any thoughts?

愛

02-23-2005, 02:24 PM

That's quite a guess. That sounds so f*cking out there, I don't even think you know what you're trying to say. Do you really think Nintendo would make a SEPARATE console that will as you said "crank" the hardware on that console to that of Revolution? In order to do that, you'd need...practically the same hardware for the exact same price. Unless Nintendo is willing to sacrifice some money or something, I don't see this happening.

Peanut

02-23-2005, 02:24 PM

It seems pretty interesting, but there's still too much time left to tell. We'd have to see what other kinds of "special" things Revolution is going to do.

ThirdMarioBro

02-23-2005, 02:51 PM

Ai, I did say that was just a completely random guess, and yeah I'm probobly full of sh*t. Just trying to find something to disect as the gaming world is kinda dead at the moment.

愛

02-23-2005, 03:00 PM

Yeah, I know. I'm just trying to shoot down all speculation that comes in this thread. :lol:

We'll never really know what's going to go down until E3. It could blow me away, or a bullet to the face will blow me away when I find out. By the way, Peanut and I are checking out the old E3 thread, and man, is it crazy. I can't wait for the E3 2005 Thread.

Kid Icarus

02-23-2005, 03:02 PM

So, Sega CD basicly? I like the idea... but I just can't see it working too well.

Peanut

02-23-2005, 03:34 PM

By the way, Peanut and I are checking out the old E3 thread, and man, is it crazy. I can't wait for the E3 2005 Thread.

Hell yeah man! E3 is the best time of year for us gamers, and the E3 thread last year kicked major ass. Can't wait for the 05 edition!

ThirdMarioBro

02-23-2005, 04:07 PM

I'm gonna sticky that sucka the moment one of us starts it. It's gonna be great.

Kid Icarus

02-23-2005, 04:57 PM

Not too much longer now guys...

ThirdMarioBro

02-23-2005, 05:58 PM

'bout 90 days I think. *stares at clock*

Kid Icarus

02-23-2005, 08:31 PM

And you getta be there. Bastard.

Oh well, that just means we have our own little inside source on stuff. And you'll pry getta see Iwata, Reggie, and Miyamoto too.

ThirdMarioBro

02-23-2005, 10:21 PM

Bastard be I.

Meh, don't worry. i probobly go all the way to get there, and they'll just show videos or something of Revolution and piss off the whole press. That's be a bad move seeing as the other two will be playable....but knowing Nintendo.

Then again, maybe Reggie will beat some f*cking snese to them. :lol:

愛

02-23-2005, 10:29 PM

E3 is the best event ever. It's like, nerds getting together to check out the newest stuff coming out. I imagine E3 near the end just being one huge brawl and Shiggy throwing up the horns like, "YEAHHHH!!!!!!!!! IT'S ON, BABY!!!" Reggie's in there throwing punches and the other company's representitives are sportin' brass knuckles. This is all after the new stuff is unveiled, of course.

ThirdMarioBro

02-23-2005, 11:58 PM

Oh hell yeah! To a gamer, E3 is better than Christmas. It's the 4 days I wait for every year. Best time ever period.

Demented Utrom

02-24-2005, 12:20 AM

350 dollars for one console is a little bit much.Playstation 2 in Canada was 400 dollars.I got gamecube for 220 or more I forgot.They take less money to make them.

ThirdMarioBro

02-24-2005, 12:30 AM

Dude, the trolling has finally pissed me off. That's it.

ThirdMarioBro

02-24-2005, 01:29 PM

Sad news
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Eidos In News Corp's Sights? February 23, 2005

by: Larry McCormick

Word has it that News Corp has selected the publisher it plans to purchase.

A while back, GCA ran a story about News Corp, the media company owned by Rupert Murdoch (and also the parent company of Fox) was looking to jump into the video game business by purchasing either a major or tier-2 style publisher. The original story featured a tentative list of publishers that the company had in mind. It appears today that they have made their decision.

According to numerous reports, most of which originated from an article run by GamesIndustry.biz earlier today, News Corp is planning to purchase Eidos. According to the article, a deal could be announced within a week's time. Reportedly, sources within the Eidos are glad that the News Corp news is out in the open now.

"Everyone within Eidos knows that when it gets sold, it's going to be sold as a group with a new flag on it," GamesIndustry.biz was told by a source at the company. "It's not going to be broken up in the same way Criterion was."

It appears that this deal will be a win-win situation for both parties involved. GCA will be keeping a close eye on what happens with this story.
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And the slow takeover of gaming by Hollywood continues. So long Edios, you sucked anyway, now you can made crappy licenced games and actually get paid to do it. Still sad though. Another publisher taken by Hollywood. One day they're gonna own them all and make sh*tty American Harry Potter games and stuff based off the Olsen Twin's daughters. :roll:

愛

02-24-2005, 01:39 PM

Duke

02-24-2005, 03:46 PM

Like TMB said, there's going to be movie video games all over the place, and movies being made into games are just awful. I've never seen it actually done well, ever. Ever.Chronicles of Riddick

ThirdMarioBro

02-24-2005, 04:17 PM

Normally I'd jump in this thread going beast mode about the video game industry being fine and everything, but not this time. This slow takeover of the video game industry by companies outside of the business will pose a major problem in the near future. Like TMB said, there's going to be movie video games all over the place, and movies being made into games are just awful. I've never seen it actually done well, ever. Ever. But what brings me comfort is some companies will refuse these offers, and hopefully that will be enough to keep us going. We have to keep in mind that video games are a business, and sometimes business is first. It makes me sad, but the world is sad, too.

Yeah, well put. There may be more sh*t floating around, but there will always be hardcore gamers, and as long as we keep choking out cash for the stuff we love, and the creators make profit, it'll be around. There are still companies out there who realize it is a buisness, and they are there to make money, but they treat the things they create like a work of art...to be appriciated by others. It's called having respect for your work, and yourself, and there are still movie comapnies that realize taht as well. If there can be respectable movie companies in this day and age, then there will always be gaming cooperations who are like that. We'll just have to sift through more sh*t to find it. That's all.

Chronicles of Riddick

And your point is... ;) :lol:

Duke

02-24-2005, 04:42 PM

Chronicles of RiddickAnd your point is... ;) :lol:Well i'm in no way supporting the movie, personally I think Vin Diesel is one of the worst actors in hollywood. I haven't seen the movie and have no desire to ever see it but the game is a different story.

ThirdMarioBro

02-24-2005, 05:01 PM

personally I think Vin Diesel is one of the worst actors in hollywood.
Amen to that.

Duke

02-24-2005, 07:16 PM

Well I don't typically watch The Apprentice but I heard that this episode had to do w/ the new GT4 game so I figured I'd check it out. Although it does have to do w/ advertising for the new GT, it has pretty much been a Sony is the greatest company in the video game industry advertisement.

JameO

02-24-2005, 07:48 PM

A really good movie game was Spider Man 2. Now that game was awesome.

Peanut

02-24-2005, 07:54 PM

Don't know what's going on right now...but I got Wario Ware tonight. *yay*

ThirdMarioBro

02-24-2005, 10:22 PM

YEAh! Wario Ware Rules.

Kid Icarus

02-25-2005, 02:04 AM

Peanut

02-25-2005, 08:37 AM

YEAh! Wario Ware Rules.

It sure as hell does, I only put it down to sleep last night. There are some really fun mini-games on there. Also...am I the only one who thinks the majority of the little extras are worthless, despite most of them being pretty cool.

ThirdMarioBro

02-25-2005, 11:58 AM

Funny thing... thats the same thing that killed the industry the first time around.

But the first time around, videogames wern't in the mass market. At least not in the scale they are now. Back then there were people who'd never touched a controller/joystick, but now everyone's at least played SOME videogame.

My point? If the industry crashes again, it's going to be HARDER to bring it back up. We've already seen where the "upgrade the hardware to invigorate sales" stratagie's taken the market before... And Nintendo's obviously realized it's headed in the same direction Atari took us.

That's why I'm so damn excited about the Revolution. My DS took all of my attention away from the Gamecube, and Nintendo's said that's only the tip of what they're gonna do with Revolution. They may spew a bunch of crap at times, but I don't think they're joking with us now... They're gonna do something crazy. And would it really be so bad if that means developers have to come up with totally new ideas? In the long run, no. But this is why what Ninty's been doing this generation's going to help them with the next one. Whoring out characters to third parties is a GREAT idea to get Nintendo fans to try other developers software. I can't think of any of my fanboy friends that gave a **** about what Namco did until Link got put in SC2. And hell, I've considered picking up NBA Street 3 just to use Mario and them in there, and I can't stand EA. Aside from that, Nintendo also worked with those developers, teaching them how to make their products better, insted of just advancing them.

And wow, I'm rambling on. I'm gonna stop here :).

Every word of that post was gold. They are doing good by whoring out the characters to other companies and letting them develop games. Hell, I've been happy with most of them. F-Zero GX was the best damn racing experience I've ever had, Star Fox Assault was the best shooting I've ever played, ect. The EA thing pissed me off, but it will help us in the long run.

You're right, we are going the road Atari went. Now that's just scary. Just like before, all the companies are jumping in until the bottom falls out. People won't listen to them until it's too late to stop it, but that'll just be their excuse to raise to power. I thought they were nuts with DS. Everyone did. We just waited and saw what they were doing, and you're right. It took may attention away from the Cube too. It's just so damn cool. The only time I've really messed with the cube since the DS was released was for RE4 and Starfox. That little thing is a marvel, and it's just an example of the experiences Revolution could possibly bring. Can't wait til E3.

Mecha Cow

02-25-2005, 02:22 PM

In which road exactly did Atari take us? I guess that was before my time.

Kid Icarus

02-25-2005, 03:17 PM

Licensed games, usually from movies or TV shows, that played very very similar to each other. Also, when sales would drop, they'd up the power of their machines.

Machias Banshee

02-25-2005, 03:24 PM

Not to go off-topic, but I found this lil link, and had to wonder if this could be a taste of something that you might see at E3(4?). I thought, after reading, that this could be something important for you guys to check out...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/demo_tech_show

Mecha Cow

02-25-2005, 03:29 PM

Licensed games, usually from movies or TV shows, that played very very similar to each other. Also, when sales would drop, they'd up the power of their machines.

Ah.

In that case you're right, that's pretty much what's going on in the biz these days. x_X

Peanut

02-25-2005, 04:06 PM

One game for Atari, E.T.

That's all you need to know.

Demented Utrom

02-25-2005, 04:36 PM

New movie based game the God father.Nintendo Revolution Specs Unknown.IBM and Panasonic helping NIntendo make the console.Controller No D pad or A and B buttons.HardDrive built in no.Online support unknown.Release date Late 2006.Cost unknown.Here are the rumors for it.Graphics unknown.

Kid Icarus

02-25-2005, 07:00 PM

One game for Atari, E.T.

That's all you need to know.
I was gonna bring that up... but like Virtual Boy, that's just something that's not talked about. Ever.

And ShredderUtrom, everything we know about Revolution's just a rumor... not a damned thing's been said about it officialy.

Demented Utrom

02-25-2005, 07:04 PM

Over hyped game I remember but was garbage.Mega Man X7 I cannot stand this game.I prefer mega man X8 better then this one.

Kid Icarus

02-25-2005, 08:03 PM

X7 wasn't on a Nintendo system, or developed by Nintendo.

Someone wanna get S.U. a Sony Discussion thread?

ThirdMarioBro

02-25-2005, 08:19 PM

Done. Let's see how it goes.

Peanut

02-25-2005, 08:31 PM

Over hyped game I remember but was garbage.Mega Man X7 I cannot stand this game.I prefer mega man X8 better then this one.

What the hell does this have to do with ANYTHING in this thread?

Duke

02-25-2005, 09:21 PM

I went to be EB today and they were having a buy 2 get 1 free sell on all used games, so I picked up a couple of xbox games, a old 64 game (in box w/ book i might add) I had been looking for, and the 2 gameboy color Zelda games Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages which leads me to my question. How exactly do these games work? If i remember correctly don't they go together some how? Anyways I'm sure someone here can fill me in.

Demented Utrom

02-25-2005, 09:56 PM

Zelda Oracle of seasons and Ages.They connected with a password.You finish one game and Put the password you got into the next.The second one you play follows the other ones storyline.Hope this helps.

Kid Icarus

02-25-2005, 10:02 PM

Yep, you're correct. Also, if I recall correctly, you can play them on your GBA to unlock more power rings.... and enter some rooms that you coulden't access on the GBC hardware.

Duke

02-25-2005, 10:09 PM

Which one should I play first?

Kid Icarus

02-25-2005, 10:20 PM

I played a bit in Seasons, and I've heard it's a bit easier. I haven't played Ages though, so I can't say for sure.

愛

02-25-2005, 10:21 PM

I owned Seasons, and then I played some Ages. I agree with Gwgtrunks and say Seasons is a tad easier. It's good to get you into that mood and learn more about how the game works. Then you can play Ages. They're technically the same game, just different ways of getting through the game.

Demented Utrom

02-25-2005, 10:23 PM

The extra feature was a shop.The linked game is the only way to fight Twin Rova and Ganon.You can also trade items with passwords.I own both games.I consider both one game.I have finished both games with linked passwords.

Kid Icarus

02-25-2005, 10:30 PM

Yep. You're pry gonna end up playing through one of them twice, just to get the full story in each.

ThirdMarioBro

02-26-2005, 02:12 AM

Yeah, those things took damn near forever.

Mecha Cow

02-26-2005, 05:52 AM

Keep going, Shredder Utrom. You just need one more warning.

愛

02-26-2005, 11:18 AM

Uh oh. Some news from me!

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DS Download Service Begins in Japan
Find out what gamers in Japan can expect this weekend.
by Anoop Gantayat

February 25, 2005 - Nintendo Japan has announced the start of a new download service for the Nintendo DS. Set to take off this weekend, the service will allow DS owners to make downloads to their system by connecting to kiosks placed at selected retailers throughout Japan.

The first download includes playable demos of Meteos and Hitofude along with a number of song updates for Band Brothers: Toko Toko Yoshi (Catch! Touch! Yoshi!), Jungle Beat (Donkey Konga), Slider (Mario 64) and Ashley (Sawaru Made in Wario). The Band Brothers update also includes a two-part set of Kid Icarus songs.

Those who make the download to the DS will be able to keep playing the Meteos and Hitofude demos so long as they don't power off the system. The Band Brothers songs remain as saved data even if the system is powered off, although you need to actually have the Band Brothers game, of course.

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Oh man. Download service. They always get the good stuff before we do.

ThirdMarioBro

02-26-2005, 01:18 PM

Woah damn, tht sounds like an excellent idea. I wonder how long it'll take NOA to get it over here....

Peanut

02-26-2005, 01:56 PM

Wow, that's awesome! I hope we get some cool stuff over here too, and Ai, what are you complaining about? You don't even have a DS n00b.

愛

02-26-2005, 02:00 PM

I hate myself for it. :cry: :cry: :cry:

Peanut

02-26-2005, 02:04 PM

As you should! WarioWare kicks my ass!

Anyways, Reggie answers a pretty good question in IGN's latest "Nintendo Minute", which has quickly become my favourite feature on their site.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/591/591150p1.html

Go Reggie! Go Reggie!

ThirdMarioBro

02-26-2005, 06:36 PM

"Sony and Microsoft both aimed the design of their systems toward the one-color scheme with a purely masculine feel. But with that came their own issues, including constant comments about the size of the systems -- especially the Xbox, which for some time, was teased as being as big as a tea table for consumers in Japan. So, lessons learned for all, I think."

I love that man. Honestly. :lol:
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Well, f*ck. Next year, Sony will release an upgraded PSP with a 50GB Hard drive. Either they'll kill the ipod with hype, or they'll allinate their userbase with a second year upgrade. Knowing people's susceptiability to hype, I thinking the first is more likely. F*ck them. I'm staying with my ipod til death. *hugs ipod*

JameO

02-27-2005, 09:02 AM

愛

02-27-2005, 09:04 AM

The problem with an iPod for me is...well, my music collection wouldn't fit on any iPod size. My music folder exceeds 55gb. I don't know if they make any that big, but it would probably cost over $600. I don't have that kind of money. I'm happy with listening to music at home, anyway.

Kid Icarus

02-27-2005, 11:41 AM

I'd rather have people go out and buy the albums and not steal the songs online. I download songs to see how good a band or artist is and if I like it I don't put it on my MP3 player I go out and buy the album if it's worth it. Sure there are some one hit artists where one or two songs you like from the album, that doesn't warrant a purchase. But the way iPods are flying around lately, it's been stealing from the artists. Because let's face it, no one actually buys the songs online. To stay on topic, PSP can go to hell and go DS!

Actually, the iTunes music store's sold over what, 100,000,000 songs? That's a lot of music sold.

Instead of slamming iPods, slam CDR/RW drives.

50 GB hard drives, that small, are going to drive cost up even higher. I can see the appeal... but, damn. And just imagine, if they cut the old PSP's without hard drives. by then most PSP owners'll have invested in $100 memory sticks. Way to piss off your fanbase Sony... (olmost sounds like something Ninty'd do, but on a larger scale. lol).

And that DS download service... awesome. I just hope Reggie gets NOA to bring it over here soon. That man's a miracle worker XD.

Jed

02-27-2005, 12:38 PM

From GameSpot:

"RUMOR #2: Sony is working on a spicy new PSP that will feature an internal 50 gigabyte hard drive.

Source: Rumor fire-stoker Joystiq.com.

The official story: "We have not changed the specs of PSP, please see the release dated 2/3 with a list of specs of PSP for the North American launch."--Sony Computer Entertainment America spokesperson.

What we heard: According to Joystiq.com, the PSP may be goin' all iPod up in here. Its article says that at a recent conference, Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter "let on" that he heard Sony was designing a PSP with an internal 50-gigabyte hard drive, thus immediately brewing comparisons to Apple's iPod MP3 player. The idea of a hard drive also lends credence to Sony's earlier admission that downloadable games may be a possibility in the future. Too bad, then, that Pachter didn't let anything on. "I said that 'if' Sony were to put a 50GB hard drive in the PSP, it would be an iPod killer," he told GameSpot.

Bogus or not bogus?: Bogus. What a difference a preposition makes (though a great idea…)"

Oh and Ai, there's a 60GB iPod, but like you said it's around the $500-600 mark :(

Kid Icarus

02-27-2005, 02:15 PM

It woulden't be an iPod killer, because it would cost MORE then the iPod. Besides, there's those iPod Shuffle's. $100 bucks, average price for an MP3 player, but it's as easy to use as an iPod. And it's bigger then those other $100 MP3 players.

ThirdMarioBro

02-27-2005, 03:42 PM

Yeah, and the 60GB ipod has a color screen for picture viewing, but that seems like a complete and total waste to me. A greyscale LCD is easier on the battery, and battery life is the whole point.

My music collection won't fir on the 40GB either, so I just choose what I want to hear and put it and go. The battery seldom dies on a weekend trip. The thing is a dream.

And JameO, my music collection is a bit of a unique position in the whole legal thing. The music I listen to isn't sold over here, and they refuse to release in in western markets simply because the public is jaded and it would be ignored. As a result, Mp3's are about the only way I can get it. There is the occational import for things I really love, but just a damn CD costs like $50 thanks to US import duties and shipping fees. It's a joke. If they'd sell anything other than the GTA soundtrack, I'd sure a hell support them, but the sad truth is, I can't. :cry:

愛

02-27-2005, 03:46 PM

Japanese CD's typically cost over $30, and it's not for import and shipping fees. It's the same price over there, too. It's kind of a shame, because their economy is God awful. But they make more per hour, so I guess it balances out.

ThirdMarioBro

02-27-2005, 05:44 PM

Fu*king hell, I didn't know that. Geez, no wonder all the sh*t costs so damn much. That just sucks hardcore. $30 for a CD is just bonko. I always thought it was the import fees. Maaaan. :(

Thanks for clearing that up. It finally makes sense.

愛

02-27-2005, 05:46 PM

That's what I'm here for. Sometimes I think I know too much about this stuff. :lol:

Just for added information, DVD's cost around $60. That depends on the DVD, though. Hello! Project concert DVD's and other various DVD's cost around $35. My Dir en grey Tour04 The Code of Vulgar[ism] DVD costed $73, and that was a limited edition. My Dir en grey Blitz5days DVD box set (5 DVD's) costed $150. So you can see how it works. It's ridiculous.

Demented Utrom

02-27-2005, 05:49 PM

In Canada CDs are 30 dollars also.I don't buy CDs.I only buy DVDs and video games.I spent nearly 90 dollars for the 9 disc Alien set.One DVD was 25 dollars canadian.Add GST on top of that.We usually pay more for stuff in Canada.It's GST though.Everybody in Canada hates the tax.The Government doesnot.

愛

02-27-2005, 05:54 PM

You're a socialist country, though. You have to pay more taxes so the country can take care of you, what with your medical plans and stuff.

Demented Utrom

02-27-2005, 05:57 PM

They are trying make everything private like the States.Where I live in Alberta.The government has made Power,Heat and Electric Private.The compaines over charge people.also there is the ad scam.The gun law.Their passing a law so anybody can marry.That's Ottawa trying to pass that.DVD boxsets are usually 60 dollars.

JameO

02-27-2005, 05:58 PM

Yeah thats true, I tend to download certain albums that are just over priced like crazy. Like some unknown bands are like 30 bucks an album, but wouldn't you want it to be lower so people will say, "oh wow it's only 15 bucks, I hear they are good, maybe I will try it out". But yeah in your case I can see where your coming from, but a lot of people think it's a waste of money which makes certain bands fall through the cracks and not even get a second chance at stardom. Oh well just a little rant I had, yeah I guess attacked CD burners would be more effective. Anyways, what's the news with the DS Downloading sutff with movies and stuff like that, I haven't heard much about it.

ThirdMarioBro

02-27-2005, 06:18 PM

Well, in Japan Nintendo has released a little device called the Play-Yan. It's a SD flash card reader that for DS and GBA that lets you play MPEG4 video and MP3 music on the systems. Now, it's made for "legally downloaded content", but Nintendo didn't put any codecs or anything in that limit what you can play on it. Frankly, the doors are open for anything. Theoretically, you can go to Blockbuster, rip an DVD, dump it on the flash card and play it at will. Or you can just rip your own stuff for play. It's made so that rather than buy the same movie again for PSP at a higher price, you can just rip what you already own and play it for free on your DS. Panasonic (Sony's hated rival) helped develop the device. It has it's own processor, so unlike the Hong Kong players, the video plays back at a full 30 Frames per second, just like the DVD, and the music will be what ever quality you ripped it at.

Now, I don't know if it will ever be released in the US seeing as Sony could raise hell over the legality and use it as an excuse to bring hate onto the DS, but if Nintendo turned it into a media feiasco, you can bet people would buy the thing like crazy. I don't know though. The "Nintendo V-Pocket" could be that device in English terms, but no one really has a clue. If you want to import, all text on screen for using it is in English and Nintendo dosen't use region codes (unlike Sony). All in all, the device is pure gold.

Far better than paying $30 for a lower quality portable version of Spiderman 2 when you can just rip the movie you already own onto a flash card and play it on your DS at the same quality.

Peanut

02-27-2005, 07:46 PM

Shreder utrom...STOP! For the love of Jesus stop. I'm sick of your stupid posts. Knock it off.

JameO

02-27-2005, 09:50 PM

Oh I see. Sounds good to me. Didn't they say while you are watching a movie you might be able to download files from certain theatres or whatever. I am not sure but thanks for the information.

ThirdMarioBro

02-27-2005, 11:05 PM

Oh, that was for Pokemon movies where you could download Poke data to your DS during the movie. It'll never leave Japan.

Kid Icarus

02-27-2005, 11:31 PM

Unless the new Nintendo store in NY has a theatre...

Honestly, there'll be SOME way to get the exclusive Pokemon from Japan. Mew had the Toys R Us give away, Celibi had... damn. something? lol. Jirachi had colossuem, and now Deoxys has some funky island puzzle you unlock in FRLG by using the wireless adapter to download a 'ticket'.

but if the new Pokemon game is infact an MMORPG, you'll get new data just by logging onto a server.

ThirdMarioBro

03-01-2005, 01:20 AM

New Nintendo Hardware This Year? February 28, 2005

by: Matt Saunderson

One analyst says the next Game Boy could ship as early as the 2005 holiday season.

With the Revolution not likely to release before 2006, one analyst thinks that Nintendo could be planning to ship the next Game Boy by the end of 2005.

That analyst: P.J. McNealy of American Technology Research. "We believe it is likely that the next version of the Game Boy Advance SP will ship as early as this holiday, ahead of most expectations of calendar year 2006," wrote McNealy. McNealy also predicts a price of $99 for the next Game Boy, with the Game Boy Advance dropping to $49. The Nintendo DS, according to McNealy, will stay at its current price.

According to McNealy, sales numbers back Nintendo in releasing a new Game Boy over a year year after the release of the DS. "The Nintendo DS has, by and large, been additive to Nintendo software revenue and units sales and not cannibalistic. Even with the DS launch in November, GBA software revenue and unit sales were up double-digits in December and January," wrote McNealy.

A new hardware launch would keep Nintendo in the top of consumer's mind during the 2005 holiday season, according to McNealy, as without new hardware Sony's PSP and Microsoft’s possible release of the Xbox 2 could keep Nintendo overshadowed. Further, McNealy believes that the current generation of Game Boy has a major issue of piracy, epically in the Asia-Pacific region. By changing over to a new medium, such as flash memory cards, like those used for the Nintendo DS, piracy would no longer be as large an issue.

McNealy also believes that publishers like Activision and THQ could benefit from a new Game Boy, writing, "We believe that a new GBA SP could mean between $10 million to $20 million of additional revenue for both Activision and THQ in FY06, and an additional $0.02 to $0.04 in earnings."

Nintendo has not yet commented on McNealy's analysis. According to CNN Money, official confirmation of a new Game Boy could come as early as March 10th at the GDC when Satoru Iwata gives his keynote speech titled The Heart of a Gamer. The Advanced Media Network will be in San Francisco attending the Game Developer’s Conference, so if any new hardware is announced we will bring that information to you.
source: CNN Money

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Honestly, that's the dumbest sh*t I've heard in some time. That's all I'll say. Really.

Kid Icarus

03-01-2005, 01:26 AM

So, because the market for the GBA is gigantanormous, Nintendo should go ahead and release the new Gameboy?

Yeah, that makes PERFECT sense.

Ninty might make some pretty stupid moves... but that'd just be... yeah. Wow.

Mecha Cow

03-01-2005, 06:13 AM

I doubt they'd shoot themselves in the foot like that. I sure hope not anyway.

The GBA and the DS are still going strong, we don't need a new handheld anytime soon.

Peanut

03-01-2005, 10:31 AM

Would anyone really be at all surprised if Nintendo did f*ck up like this again?

ThirdMarioBro

03-01-2005, 12:36 PM

I got a little more faith in them than that. CNN has nothing to go on. If they did fu*k it up though, I'd completely loose faith. THey'd be pulling a Sega (eg. putting out assloads of hardware at the same time). Honestly, Nintendo's not this stupid.

*edit*

UPDATED: Three Nintendo divisions comment with regard to the recent analysis, rumors, and speculation about the next Game Boy.

Scroll down for the update

Original Story: Posted 2/28/2005 @ 12:00 PM Central

With the Revolution not likely to release before 2006, one analyst thinks that Nintendo could be planning to ship the next Game Boy by the end of 2005.

That analyst: P.J. McNealy of American Technology Research. "We believe it is likely that the next version of the Game Boy Advance SP will ship as early as this holiday, ahead of most expectations of calendar year 2006," wrote McNealy. McNealy also predicts a price of $99 for the next Game Boy, with the Game Boy Advance dropping to $49. The Nintendo DS, according to McNealy, will stay at its current price.

According to McNealy, sales numbers back Nintendo in releasing a new Game Boy over a year year after the release of the DS. "The Nintendo DS has, by and large, been additive to Nintendo software revenue and units sales and not cannibalistic. Even with the DS launch in November, GBA software revenue and unit sales were up double-digits in December and January," wrote McNealy.

A new hardware launch would keep Nintendo in the top of consumer's mind during the 2005 holiday season, according to McNealy, as without new hardware Sony's PSP and Microsoft’s possible release of the Xbox 2 could keep Nintendo overshadowed. Further, McNealy believes that the current generation of Game Boy has a major issue of piracy, epically in the Asia-Pacific region. By changing over to a new medium, such as flash memory cards, like those used for the Nintendo DS, piracy would no longer be as large an issue.

McNealy also believes that publishers like Activision and THQ could benefit from a new Game Boy, writing, "We believe that a new GBA SP could mean between $10 million to $20 million of additional revenue for both Activision and THQ in FY06, and an additional $0.02 to $0.04 in earnings."

Nintendo has not yet commented on McNealy's analysis. According to CNN Money, official confirmation of a new Game Boy could come as early as March 10th at the GDC when Satoru Iwata gives his keynote speech titled The Heart of a Gamer. The Advanced Media Network will be in San Francisco attending the Game Developer’s Conference, so if any new hardware is announced we will bring that information to you.

UPDATE: 3/1/2005 @ 1:32 PM Central

Since yesterday's report about P.J. McNealy's analysis regarding a possible new Game Boy by the end of the year, numerous rumors have begun to spread around the internet. One such rumor was that the next Game Boy will be shown at E3 2005. Another rumor was that the next Game Boy will simply be a redesign of the Game Boy Advance. It was even rumored that Nintendo may be working on a handheld similar to Sony's PSP, or a PDA-based device that plays games.

Nintendo of America has not confirmed nor denied any of the aforementioned rumors. When contacted by IGN Nintendo of America's Senior Director of Public Relations, Beth Llewelyn, stated, "Game Boy continues to be a shining star in the video game industry with more than 176 million units sold worldwide. In 2004 alone we sold 10 million Game Boy Advance SPs in North America and sales were up 9% in January. Our newest hand-held game system, the Nintendo DS, has done extremely well and is on target to ship 6 million worldwide by March 31. There is always speculation on what the next Game Boy will be, however, at this time there are no announcements about a new Game Boy SP product."

Nintendo's divisions outside of the United States have also not confirmed nor denied any of the recent rumors. A spokesperson from Nintendo of Europe, speaking to Eurogamer, said, "There is always speculation on what the next Game Boy will be, however, at this time there are no announcements about a new Game Boy SP product." A spokesperson for Nintendo of Canada, speaking to Canoe News, said that Nintendo of Canada has "no information on a Game Boy release for 2005."

GameCube Advanced and the Advanced Media Network will continue to keep you updated on the future of the Game Boy. It is our policy not post rumors, so while we won't be spreading the unconfirmed reports that have surfaced, we will be sure to keep you updated on any official and/or credible information that arises. Further, we will be at the Game Developers Conference this month and at E3 in May, so if anything is actually announced at either event, we will report on it.
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People need to seriously STOp posting this sh*t on News sites. Nintendo isn't this dumb to kill new hardware with newer hardware and alianiate the 3rd Parties in the process.

Peanut

03-01-2005, 01:20 PM

Well for some good news.

Australian sales of the DS are setting hardware-launch records, says Nintendo.

Nintendo is already calling the February 24 launch of its dual-screen handheld in Australia that country's best hardware launch of all time, though official numbers aren't due until tomorrow. According to retailer feedback (and widely reported in the Australian press), the DS has sold like gangbusters in its first week down under. In other markets, more than 2.8 million units have been sold in North America and Japan through mid-January. The next DS launch will take place in Europe on March 11.

Kid Icarus

03-01-2005, 02:09 PM

hm.. 3 million user base now perhaps?

Pry up to 4 million a week into Europe's launch, all before t3h PSP comes out in North America.

Kid Icarus

03-01-2005, 02:10 PM

Would anyone really be at all surprised if Nintendo did f*ck up like this again?
Nintendo may not know how to run their console line... but they've got the handheld market down pat. I don't think they'd mess it up this badly.

ThirdMarioBro

03-01-2005, 07:26 PM

Bingo. They are not going to pull this sh*t. GBA has at least 2 1/2 years left. DS is going VERY strong. The Austrailian launch was the biggest the country has ever seen in history. Even bigger than PS2. The thing will be around for quite some time. How much do you bet Sony paid CNN to do it just to make the PSP look like the "reliable brand".

ThirdMarioBro

03-02-2005, 07:50 PM

Well, guess what....Japan is getting multicolor DS's, and all we get is black. How history does repeat itself.

Here's the big one
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Game Makers Could Be Liable For Crime March 02, 2005

by: Matt Saunderson

A new bill in Washington State could make videogame makers, not criminals, responsible for crime and violence in the state.

Lawmakers in the state of Washington are considering a bill, that could make the makers and/or sellers of videogames liable for crimes committed by minors, if the crime can be attributed to the minor having played the game. The bill, House Bill 2178, is currently in the committee stage in the Washington House of Representatives.

The Washington Police and Sheriff's Association is backing the bill. Bill Hanson, who is a part of the association says that kids are becoming desensitized from playing violent videogames. "If you sit up and watch this and play these games over and over again... it seems that this is alright to walk up and hit a police officer over the head with a bat," Hanson said.

Opponents of the bill argue that the bill would shift responsibility away from criminals, possibly allowing minors who commit crimes or acts of violence to walk away clean while the gaming industry foots the bill and takes the punishment. "We're removing the responsibility from the person who committed the act, to somebody else who's completely removed from the situation," said Lew McMurran of the Washington Software Association, who opposes the bill. McMurran added, "There's a very strong video game industry in this state that we want to support. We don't want to bring undo attention to an area where there's actually jobs being created, where there's actually some good economic development in our state."

The Advanced Media Network will keep you updated on this bill, as well as California's Assembly Bill 1792, which is an attempt by Leland Yee and his supporters to bar the sale of violent games to minors.
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See why i have lost all faith in American government? That's right. Washington State's residents will surely enjoy a crime rate jump among juvenils when they find out they can steal, kill, rape, etc and simply blame Grand Theft Auto and have Take-Two and Rockstar pay the damages and they can get away with it. Those damn kids who stole your car... don't sue them or their parents... sue Rockstar games instead, and the kids can walk off and do it again and blame some other game.

Seriously, I give up.

Peanut

03-02-2005, 08:17 PM

It won't be passed. That's just beyond idiotic. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go beat some cops with a baseball bat.

Demented Utrom

03-02-2005, 08:26 PM

Are they that out of money.That they have to start harassing Video game companies for money.Missouri is doing the same thing to wrestlers.Trying to get money off rich people.It's the kids fault if there that nutty somethings wrong.

Parents always blame the media for kids problems.It's the parents fault if their kids are that crazy.Why should video game compaines foot the bill for some stupid kids' crimes.It should be the parents footing the bill.

Nintendo should move to a different state.I think Mircosoft's headquarters are in Richmond to.

愛

03-02-2005, 08:34 PM

Demented Utrom

03-02-2005, 08:39 PM

Some kids are messed up in the head.I don't think the bill will pass either.I think it's a money grabbing scheme by jealous people.Video game compaines are well off.So if it does pass it might hurt the State in Tourism and other things.

Voltron

03-02-2005, 08:42 PM

Even if it does pass it's not going to work that well. If you pull video games from an economy that is based on technology you might as well shoot yourself in the foot. Also, if someone gets nailed by this law all they have to do is appeal to a higher court.

Machias Banshee

03-02-2005, 08:55 PM

Jeezum... why not make the movie and television industry liable too? :roll: Look at all the gory violence and sexual crimes in movies today. Quentin Tarantino alone would be in deep shnit...

ThirdMarioBro

03-02-2005, 09:46 PM

You may hate the American government, but honestly, you're not going to find a better form of government anywhere else.

The bill will never pass. It truly is quite ridiculous. I just think they're trying to find a scapegoat for all of this, because they refuse to believe kids are really that messed up in the head. We love violence, though. We were born that way.

Yes. If I want to see a head roll off and blood spew in 20 directions, then so be it. Kids are messed up. People will eventually have to come to terms with it. Supressing violence in games will only cause the kids to seek out other ways to see violence, and some will be driven to do it themselves.

The countries that don't supress this stuff have lower crime rates. If supressed, people see it as something hard to obtain, and they seek it as though it is cool. If it's around all the time, then they become bored with it and don't see it as anything special anymore. If the American public would see that, then the crime rate would go down. There might be a period where it goes up, but it would pass and then plummit. People just aren't willing to go through that period.

One day the shock will wear off, and this stuff will become ignored and thought of as normal. At that point, crime will go down. THey're just too damn hard headed to realize it.

Peanut

03-02-2005, 09:57 PM

You American's and your guns.

愛

03-02-2005, 10:00 PM

Ah, go back to your strip malls...where values are king. You and your polar bears.

Demented Utrom

03-02-2005, 10:09 PM

Polar bears live in the North Pole.It was plus 30 or more 3 years ago.Ever hear of West Edmonton Mall.I have been there a lot of times.Back on topic please.

It was pretty hot.

Voltron

03-02-2005, 10:14 PM

My...my brain just hemmorhaged.

愛

03-02-2005, 10:15 PM

Okay, what the hell was that. That post made no sense at all. Back on topic? Hot? What was hot? What are you talking about?!

Demented Utrom

03-02-2005, 10:19 PM

During the Summer in 2002.We had a major heat wave.That went on for a couple months.People stayed indoors for awhile.It was not fun at all.I hope we never get weather like this again.It was a drought to.

Peanut

03-02-2005, 10:19 PM

Polar bears live in the North Pole.It was plus 30 or more 3 years ago.Ever hear of West Edmonton Mall.I have been there a lot of times.Back on topic please.

It was pretty hot.

You and your quasi-intellectual hob-nobbery, and you know what makes me sick? That you get away with it! Thank you Dr. Javargo! Yeah, you suck! Let's just pretend here stands for, here I am...rock you like a hurricane.

Demented Utrom

03-02-2005, 10:31 PM

No I was not plugging it.Video games have a rating system.People under 17 should not be allowed buy or rent mature rated games.If the bill is passed.The State might try to ban Video games altogether.

Peanut

03-02-2005, 10:36 PM

Hey, who let the hippy in here? I got news for ya pal, the dead are dead! Okay, so maybe what you're looking for is soap, which is at the grocery store, you know food you don't have to pick. They sell meat there.

愛

03-02-2005, 10:38 PM

Well, Dracula called and he's coming over tonight, so...you better get your act together. I also heard you did something to anger God. He's angry at you, you know. I remember him telling me that...at the Last Supper. They had good fish there.

Voltron

03-02-2005, 10:39 PM

You Can Never Return to Assface Lake.

Now really, back on topic.

Machias Banshee

03-02-2005, 10:40 PM

Stay on topic guys... there's no need to be rude. SU, thank you for getting back on topic ...
[edit: ugh, i hate typing slow...]

Peanut

03-02-2005, 10:42 PM

I personally think it should be up to the parents to decide what their kids play, but most parents are completely ignorant to the ESRB. It should be brought up to parents purchasing games. I know if I worked anywhere that sold games I'd let all parents know what they're buying. Of course that won't do anything to stop some parents, a lot of them just use videogames as babysitters.

Demented Utrom

03-02-2005, 10:45 PM

I rented mortal Kombat 2 for super nintendo at age 14 in 1994.The rules were not enforced back then.Mortal Kombat started the whole blame Video games for voilent acts by kids in the first place.I wonder if it's same senator who started attacking Mortal Kombat.Trying to get this bill passed.I would be suprised if it wasn't.

Mortal Kombat and Nighttrap started the whole ESRB rating system thing.

Kid Icarus

03-02-2005, 11:46 PM

Okay, what the hell was that. That post made no sense at all. Back on topic? Hot? What was hot? What are you talking about?!
By god... S.U. just NWO'd us. :o .

Anywho, that law is pretty damned retarded. People were violent before GTA, and people are gonna be violent long after it's ran its course. And this is comming from one a those hippie left-wingers :lol: .

Mecha Cow

03-03-2005, 12:05 AM

Well, guess what....Japan is getting multicolor DS's, and all we get is black. How history does repeat itself.

I'd actually rather have a black DS than a silver one....:O

Too bad I'll already have a silver one by the time the black one comes out...I was never one for patience. >_<

Anyway, that law is pretty stupid. People need to realise that while a videogame could (And often does, sadly) make certain acts of violence seem glorified, it cannot load a gun and pull the trigger. Most people are not stupid. They can tell what is real and what is a game. People who perform these 'videogame-inpired' acts of violence can't. There is something wrong with their heads, and the problem lies with them, not the game itself.

ThirdMarioBro

03-03-2005, 12:28 AM

I really don't care. I can enjoy a good round of Mario 64 DS, then go blow someone's fu*king head off in RE4 and not blink twice. It dosen't matter. If the game needs violence, then it needs violence. If it dosen't, then so what. Both of the above rank among the greatest games ever designed. That's all that matters to me. I'm not going to let some dumb ass kid who finds his dad's gun ruin gaming for me. They won't pass the law with 2/3 of the console manufatures HQ's in their state. It'd kill their economy at the very least.

Peanut

03-03-2005, 12:21 PM

Kid Icarus

03-03-2005, 12:59 PM

That, and pissing off local buisnesses, especially ones as big as Microsoft and Ninty, isn't a good idea.

ThirdMarioBro

03-03-2005, 01:03 PM

This is probably the best place to post this. The ESRB just added a new rating to their line-up.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/03/02/news_6119608.html

Sounds interesting, a lot of E rated games could probably fall into that category, as well as a few Teen games.

Ah Dammit, and I was so hoping that the new Zelda would get a T Rating. Now all the "OMG KIDDIE" people won't buy it because it's rated E. Damn. End of that dream I guess.

Peanut

03-03-2005, 01:15 PM

Well it could still get a T rating. If they have any type of blood in it it'll probably get Teen, and I wouldn't be all that surprised if there is blood in it.

Kid Icarus

03-03-2005, 02:02 PM

Yup... Shiggy and Aonuma are going for uber realism with this one. When you cut someone, they bleed... so yeah.

ThirdMarioBro

03-03-2005, 02:20 PM

Here's hoping.

Demented Utrom

03-03-2005, 02:23 PM

Zelda with green enemy blood.E for Everyone most 10 years old could not even finish the new Zelda game coming out in the fall.The game is for adults that played the other Zelda games.I hope it gets a teen rating.

ThirdMarioBro

03-03-2005, 02:26 PM

Well, just because the game looks rougher dosen't exactly mean it will be harder to play. I'm sure it will be more challenging that Wind Waker though. The difficulty of Zelda lies in solving the dungon puzzles. Only a true gamer can get through those things without a guide. The fighting is no problem. It's the puzzles that confuse people.

Mecha Cow

03-03-2005, 02:52 PM

Geez, I must be the only one who doesn't want the new Zelda to have a 'T' rating. Zelda is and has always been a family thing.

But hey, I'm sure you all know by now how I feel about the game, so I won't go there again. *Sigh*

For the record, the game won't have blood. In the E3 '04 trailer -which wasn't exactly an 'early' trailer either- we see Link and several enemies getting hit. Link flashes red and the sparks fly off the enemies. And come on, blood in Zelda would be lame. F*ck realism.

Peanut

03-03-2005, 04:43 PM

I don't think it would be lame and I've been a huge fan of the series since the first LoZ on the NES. I personally want it just so the cool factor will go up and give Nintendo a break in the kiddie bashing department. Obviously I don't want spewing blood like PoP2 or puddles like GTA, that's ridiculous, but slashing at enemies and drawing lines of blood would be pretty damn cool. What's lame about that?

As for the difficulty, someone said the puzzles would probably be a lot more difficult than in previous Zelda games, which I'm all for.

ThirdMarioBro

03-03-2005, 04:58 PM

I don't want spewing puddles either, just a little here and there to shut up kiddy screamers. But if they don't, I don't care. I personally think they should keep both lines of Zelda running (Wind Waker and this one). They should do one of each per generation. That way everyone is happy. Both of they styles are works of art, just in different ways. It would balance out well. Anyways, whatever choice Shiggy and Anomua make I'll be happy with.

Now, you want difficulty.....try a game with 8 water temples. LORD SAVE US!

Peanut

03-03-2005, 07:32 PM

I bought Rebel Strike: Rogue Squadron III today. God the game kicks so much as, Star Fox Assault can't even begin to try and stand up to it. If it came down to a fight SFA would have its ass slapped red.

ThirdMarioBro

03-03-2005, 07:46 PM

Well, they're not the same kind of game, but I'm not going to argue with ya on that one.

Star Wars RSIII is one of the prettiest damn games I have ever seen. It's just nuts. Blowing the hell out of those asteroids on Geonosis is just so unfreaking-believeable. And what you find on the surface......let's just say it goes boom all nice like. Words can not discribe how kickass that game is.

Barkworm

03-03-2005, 10:20 PM

Speaking of SFA, I've read so many mediocre reviews of the game that I decided to not buy it. No offense to you TMB, I know you love the game but I also know that you are a little biased. ;)
On another note, the DS will finally be released here next week. I'm still trying to get Super Mario 64 and Wario Ware cheap off Ebay since there is no way in hell I'm going to spend €40 for a handheld game.

Demented Utrom

03-03-2005, 10:24 PM

Zelda Oot Master Quest there was a midboss like in every level.2 or 3 more.There was 3 back to back in the Fire temple.I hated Iron Knuckles in Zelda Oot.I hope the new Zelda does not have Iron Knuckles.The water temple took forever on Master Quest.

There was a mid boss almost every second on Master Quest.Hopefully the puzzles and fighting are balanced this time.Having too many puzzles in a level is boring.

Kid Icarus

03-04-2005, 01:06 AM

Now, you want difficulty.....try a game with 8 water temples. LORD SAVE US! The Water Temple's easy, once you realize there's only one path in it, and if you know how to figure out which side is which on each level.

Now, the water temple in MM was freaking crazy. I got to that part in my Zelda Collectors game, and stopped. *shrudder*.

Mecha Cow

03-04-2005, 08:21 AM

I'm still trying to get Super Mario 64 and Wario Ware cheap off Ebay since there is no way in hell I'm going to spend €40 for a handheld game.

€30-40 isn't too bad considering GBA games are €45-55.

Barkworm

03-04-2005, 08:57 AM

What the...?! I guess the Netherlands are even more expensive than Germany because GBA games never cost more than €45 here. And that is way too much already.

Mecha Cow

03-04-2005, 10:17 AM

:O

What do GC games cost over there?

I suppose €45 is understandable though, considering the cost of manufacturing the cartridges etc. Still, it's a lot of money.

Barkworm

03-04-2005, 10:58 AM

The normal price for GC, PS2 and X-Box games is €60 here. That's why I'm getting most of my games via ebay. I almost never pay more than €45 for a new and sealed game (shipping included). Still more than the Americanos pay but fair enough for Europe.

Mecha Cow

03-04-2005, 01:11 PM

Oh, GC games are €60 over here too. I don't mind the price, though. Sure, it's a lot of money but nothing I can't afford since I don't buy that many games anyway.

That and it's a lot easier on the wallet when you buy games together with your brother. :P

Barkworm

03-04-2005, 01:19 PM

Oh cool, we do that too. :lol:

Dinny

03-04-2005, 01:34 PM

Europe does always seem to get the sh*t end of the stick, everything's last and everything's more expensive, but we got Minish Cap first, which is a start.

Barkworm

03-04-2005, 01:41 PM

And Jungle Beat!

Machias Banshee

03-04-2005, 06:52 PM

edit: I....think I'll just hold it for later. thats a bit borderline for these forums... :goofygri:

愛

03-04-2005, 07:03 PM

...

Um.

Wow.

Duke

03-04-2005, 07:09 PM

Well everyone knows peach is the whore of the mushroom kingdom.

ThirdMarioBro

03-04-2005, 08:17 PM

Speaking of SFA, I've read so many mediocre reviews of the game that I decided to not buy it. No offense to you TMB, I know you love the game but I also know that you are a little biased. ;)

Well, I'm not saying that it's the best game ever made. It's just basically fly-shoot, walk-shoot, tread-shoot. Nothing new. Just old school button mashing, high score getting fun.

I kinda think people expect too much from video games in reviews. They're putting too much preasure on game companies to re-innovate the world with every game. Donkey Kong Jungle Beat. Is it innovative? Yes. Is it fun? Yes. Star Fox Assault. Is it innovative? No. Is it fun? Yes. That's all that matters to me.

If you can, all I ask is that you rent it or something so you can see it for yourself. You can probobly beat it in one sitting, but it's something you can play over and over and not get tired of it. Still, just rent it and see for yourself Barkworm rather than trust reviews. If you think it sucks, then it's only $5 bucks/Euros whatever down the drain. :)

*edit*

Umm...what'd I miss here...

Demented Utrom

03-04-2005, 08:22 PM

I prefer old school myself.Most Games have been ruined making them 3D.The reviewers of game mags.Always give 2D games worse marks then 3D.Bring Back old school games.The 3D craze has to end.Castlevania 64 was 3D it sucked.

Some games should stay 2D.Most games don't work in 3D.Contra,Mega Man,Castlevania,Mario.They didnot work in 3D still don't.

Kid Icarus

03-04-2005, 08:26 PM

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too...

And on the "reviewers expect too much out of games" thing... they do. If a game's not as innovative as Animal Crossing, it gets a crap score. They need to base it on how much fun a game is, not how many shockwaves it sends through the industry.

S.U. - 3D gaming allows for diffrent types of games, moreso then 2D, but 2D works better for some styles, hands down. This is why I love Viewtiful Joe. It's a 2D platformer that has things that can only be done in 3D (like nailing enemies and shotting them in the background to break open boxes so you can get items).

Machias Banshee

03-04-2005, 09:08 PM

I'll... PM you, TMB... ;)

I kinda reconsidered posting it, since this place gets visited by... *ahem* Non-adults... :oops:

Peanut

03-04-2005, 10:02 PM

Best. Flash. Ever.

Anyways, I agree with reviewers wanting a bit too much out of games these days. That's a given. I don't give much notice to reviews, unless they're all really bad or mediocre. If the game is fun it won't get a bad or mediocre score, it'll get a good one. With that said, I have to say I completely agree with the reviews of SFA. The Arwing stuff is great, but the ground action is lousy, very lousy.

Edit: Some news...and news that really isn't going to make anyone in this thread happy...

http://cube.ign.com/articles/593/593733p1.html?fromint=1

愛

03-04-2005, 10:12 PM

Ouch. Talk about tying the noose. Nintendo......why have you done this. I just don't understand at all. You have to stop letting Donkey Kong hold all of your meetings.

Kid Icarus

03-04-2005, 10:31 PM

Ack...

This is... well, it's not good that's for sure. It's not really a big supprise though.

It IS however, a big **** up. No way around that. Nintendo'd better show off something that blows people away. Otherwise, I don't see them lasting too long in only the handheld market, especially with Sony breathing down their necks.

UPDATE

According to Perrin Kaplan: "In Mr. Iwata's recent interview about Revolution in a European publication, he says the risk of innovating is that some developers and publishers will instantly understand and engage, and others may not respond as quickly. As partners who are important to Nintendo, we'll continue to work closely with third parties because we recognize their importance to our business and to our fans."

You can look at it as Sega jumping right into the DS hardware with Feel the Magic, and instantly understanding it, and then EA with Need for Speed not doing anything new with the hardware.

I have no doubt in my mind that the system's going to be on the same level as the other 2. I fully belive those images we saw a while back of Madden and NFS(whatevernumber) are real. But I don't think Nintendo's just going to up the specs of Gamecube, toss it in a pretty case, and call it a day. They've always added SOMETHING new to consoles (NES- D Pad, SNES - upgradeable carts, Mode 7, N64- 3D gaming, GCN - Wavebird, connectivity, unique disc's, a handle, the color purple, and a seperate graphics processor. GB- handheld system that allowed the changing of games, GBP - new screen technologies, GBC - color, GBA(SP) - Mode 7, wireless link up, (front lit screens, rechargable battery), DS- Touch screen, 2 screens, 2 speakers, mic, 802.11b).

And, her thoughts on Sony and Microsoft in three years: "Regarding our competitors, their focus is slightly different than ours. Their priority seems to be making more powerful versions of what's already available."

Them other guys = Pw0n3d.

Peanut

03-04-2005, 11:25 PM

Them other guys = Pw0n3d.

Well I seriously doubt that. Things really do look bleak for Nintendo, and I could see them messing things up more than I could see them doing it right, when it comes to this Next-Gen anyways.

Duke

03-04-2005, 11:43 PM

I agree w/ peanut. While Nintendo is known for innovation, third parties aren't. Nintendo has always been willing to take risks but if they take to big of one, I really see third parties backing off big time. I mean just look at all the small third party companies that are being consumed by the larger markets. If I was in charge of a small third party company right now and the choice was making a game that I know I can sell on
x-box2/ps3 or taking a gamble and going w/ something that i have no clue on whether or not it will pan out, I'd have to go the safe route.

Kid Icarus

03-04-2005, 11:48 PM

I ment that more in NOA's now laying a near constant verbal smack down on them.

And, really, if you read Mrs. Kaplan's quote, it all makes sense. Graphics and specs won't matter... meaning the three systems are going to be on par with each other in that department. What's going to make the diffrence is what each system can add to games. Xbox2 and PS3 are basicly upgrades.

Revolution's going to be an upgrade, but I have a feeling it's gonna be so much more.

Duke

03-04-2005, 11:53 PM

Revolution's going to be an upgrade, but I have a feeling it's gonna be so much more.But that doesn't mean people will buy it. They should but it is far from a given. People are going to get a new x-box and a ps3 and third parties know that. And although some people will buy a revolution myself included I really don't know if something different will be a huge selling point for alot of casual gamers.

Kid Icarus

03-05-2005, 12:03 AM

I think you missed my point... my fault for posting this late after a long day.

My thought is that the Revolution's going to match the others point by point. HD-DVD playback, backwards compatability, online gaming, standard ammount of game storage, processing speed, graphical power.

But then Revolution's going to be able to do things that the other two won't be able to.

I'll compare PSP and the NDS. NDS can do everything gameplay wise that the PSP can. Then, on top of that, you have the touch screen, 2 screens, and a microphone.

If they go this route, there's no reason for third parties to not back them. Your casual audiance can get their Madden's, while your hard core can get their freaky Nintendo games, and then this new market Nintendos trying to make can have games like Puppytimes, Electroplankton, and Animal Crossing.

New thought... this might be Nintendos "three market" ideal realized. DS might be for that new market, the GameBoy line might be for the casual gamers, and their consoles might be for the hard core group.

Duke

03-05-2005, 12:17 AM

Actually, for the most part I did understand what you were saying, but I still have concerns. One major thing is the controller. I know tons of causal gamers who wouldn't touch x-box because of it's original controller (granted I hated it myself). And if nintendo goes to overboard w/ revamping the controller, like several rumors have speculated, then I can honestly see it not selling on that feature alone. And if the console won't sell then why would third parties want to make games that took advantage of it's unique features? Maybe I'm just paranoid but we all know nintendo is a proud company (although I do love that about them) and I can definitely see nintendo pushing third parties away for not trying to fit games to their new approach.

Mecha Cow

03-05-2005, 07:30 AM

But then Revolution's going to be able to do things that the other two won't be able to.
That's what I always assumed as well, bur Mr. Iwata is making it sound like that isn't the case.

Well, at least they see the problem, now let's hope they're wise enough to avoid it. Don't f*ck up, guys.

Kid Icarus

03-05-2005, 08:13 PM

Read Parin Kaplan's quote... It clears up what Iwata was getting at.

Think back to this time last year, when rumors about the DS came out. "OMG that's not gonna work!" "OMG, Virtual Boy 2!". Please. My first reaction was panic, until I took the time to really read what Iwata was saying. Then I saw the quote from Kaplan, and it all made sense.

愛

03-05-2005, 10:01 PM

Without third party support, I doubt they'd last very long. Nintendo can only pump out so many games by themselves, and the profit gained from their other products will only do so much for them. I still see this as a bad move for Nintendo. I don't know what the F*CK they are going to unveil in May if they're this confident, but damn...this should be interesting.

Barkworm

03-06-2005, 03:25 PM

If you can, all I ask is that you rent it or something so you can see it for yourself. You can probobly beat it in one sitting, but it's something you can play over and over and not get tired of it. Still, just rent it and see for yourself Barkworm rather than trust reviews. If you think it sucks, then it's only $5 bucks/Euros whatever down the drain. :)
You know, I actually would do that but our local video rental shop doesn't have any GC games anymore. :(
BTW, I bought Jungle Beat on Monday and it rocks. It's exactly what I expected it to be.

ThirdMarioBro

03-07-2005, 01:10 AM

I don't know what the F*CK they are going to unveil in May if they're this confident, but damn...this should be interesting.

That's the only thing we do know for sure. It will be interesting.

Pardon my absense. I've been gone all weekend. Now...

Another thought about the controllers. Nintendo has said that their new controller won't feature "A" or "B" buttons. Okay, now I haven't got a clue what in the hell they're going to show us in May, but here's something I'm going to assume. Look at the Playstation 2. It's just a PS1 dual shock in black with analog buttons. Basically the same thing. I honestly assume that they're going to keep that. Casual gamers don't have long attention spans, and Sony won't mess with what works. They's just plug their "cell" chip even though the other two will probobly be more balanced a surpass PS3 graphically because Sony dumps it all on the processor. That hasen't mattered thus far in sales though. Meh, wrong argument.

Now, PS3 should have the same of a similar controller. Xbox as well. Remember, this thing can't be that different because it still plays Gamecube software, and we all know Iwata's way with words (bonko). Soooo, we know the Gamecube controller is one of the most confortable controllers ever made. It's button layout isn't good for a few genres, but you can get other controllers for those. I assume that you can plug the Gamecube controller (or an improved variant) into Rev's socket and just go from there. I assume if third parties *coughEAcough* want to port NFS7 to all consoles, then the game can be made for this Gamecube/Revolution controller, and if Nintendo wants to do something new, they can use their "new" controller and do something as freaky as they wish.

One thing is for sure. They're either insanely smart or incredibly stupid, and I'm just going to trust in it and carry the faith as usual. It's all I can do til we know something. Besides, I believe this is just Iwata's mindless rambelings like usual. The man is a genius, but he isn't good a public speeches.......or he's doing this on purpose to drive people nutso and drive up attention for their E3 unveiling. Who knows. Iwata's known for trying to mess with people's heads. He know's everyone is always freaking about about the future of Ninty. Maybe he's just playing it up. They're not dumb enough to cut off third party support. Everytime they add something new, they keep all the old things from the last gen that people liked, and drop those which were unpopular or outdated. This is just another mindless picking apart of Iwata's funky public speeches. Here's what I expect at E3.

*cue Media reel with new stuff and assloads of Zelda footage*

*George Harrison comes out*

"Okay, GameBoy is outselling everything, DS is performing beyond expectations, and Gamecube support is dramatically improving. We're very confident about Nintendo's future growth....blah blah blah

Okay, now Reggie will come out to give you some info on Nintendo's future"

*Reggie comes out*

Okay people, I know what you came here to see.

*cold sweat ensues among crowd that looks like they just ate raw meat*

Have a look at your future

*Cue Revolution intro*

[now, regardless of what we see, and what we hear,and how many people fall flat on the floor from heart stopping shock or drop dead horror, I'm am sure of this statement or a similar one]

"Oh yeah, and it'll play all of your Gamecube games, and you can play with this other controller full of buttons for third party titles. Oh yeah, and the Graphics can match anything PS3 can do. Bite me Sony"

Besides, it's this mystery that is the most fun thing about being a Nintendo fan. You never know what's gonna happen. That's the exciting part. No one else can do that, or has ever done that. Not even Sega. This is the fun part. Speculation and crazy rumors.

JameO

03-07-2005, 06:12 AM

You know, I actually would do that but our local video rental shop doesn't have any GC games anymore. :(
BTW, I bought Jungle Beat on Monday and it rocks. It's exactly what I expected it to be.

Damn, I got another week till it comes out here but I got it preordered. It is also spring break when it comes out so I will have lots of time to smack those bongos. I can't wait.

ThirdMarioBro

03-07-2005, 02:05 PM

We're almost there. Almost there...
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Miyamoto, Fils-Aime Talk

March 07, 2005

by: Matt Saunderson

Shigeru Miyamoto and Reggie Fils-Aime talk about Nintendo's target demographic, mature games, and online.
Shigeru Miyamoto was recently interviewed by Nintendo Official Magazine. While Miyamoto and others have not pushed online in the past, Miyamoto opened up to how Nintendo could take advantage of online with the DS, and reiterated Nintendo's wide target demographic, ranging from 5-year-old children to 95-year-old great-grandparents.

"Our [Nintendo's] target user is everyone: people aged from 5 to 95. If you look at that wide user base, you have children who see their parents with PDAs and so on. So there's a lot of appeal for kids to use the DS and the stylus for its chat capabilities. And it's possible for someone with a wireless router in their home to potentially link up the Nintendo DS to that router, their computer, and the Internet, and then to potentially link up to other instant messaging programs," Miyamoto told the magazine.

Nintendo of America's Reginald Fils-Aime (Executive VP of Sales and Marketing), also spoke about online in an interview with Club Nintendo, and gave a timeframe for the unveiling of Nintendo's online plans. "We'll be speaking of our online plans in the next E3 Expo. [B]However, surely we will reveal information before the show," Fils-Aime said.

Fils-Aime also spoke about Nintendo's more mature gamers. "We are working internally as well as with licensees, to ensure that big titles are developed for this [mature] sector of people...Iwata and Miyamoto have seen that these types of game are successful, and we will continue to launch these through our licences. On our part we will continue to develop our in-house franchises. Something we do very well," Fils-Aime said.

The Nintendo DS has built-in wireless 802.11 capability. The Nintendo GameCube, officially, is an online console, but support has been limited to SEGA's Phantasy Star Online games. It is speculated that Nintendo may push further into online with the DS, and then with the Revolution. GameCube Advanced, DS Advanced, and the Advanced Media Network will keep you updated on the future of Nintendo and the online world.

source: Cube-Europe
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I'm thinking they'll reveal it at the Game Developer's Conference. Why else would Iwata and Shiggy both be speaking. Let's hope for it before PSP launch.

Mecha Cow

03-07-2005, 02:41 PM

I figure this would go in here...

I just read (On the site TMB works for, actually) that the Extended E3 trailer (The one only shown to the media last year) of the new Zelda game will be publically unveiled come thursday.

New Zelda media on the 10th and the DS on the 11th...Should be an exciting end of the week. :D

Kid Icarus

03-07-2005, 03:03 PM

Isn't the GDC on the 10th as well? That means we'll know the basics of the DS Noline plans soon. Hehe, No line. </idocy>.

I hope they supprise us with screens from Revolution games, just to shut some people up and build hype... but I know that won't happen.

Barkworm

03-07-2005, 03:10 PM

As much as I'd love to see some screens, I think everything should be revealed at E3.

愛

03-07-2005, 03:15 PM

I think so, too. E3 is the best place to reveal all information, because of all the coverage that gets done there. I want to be kicked in the face with some breathtaking information like last year. Last year was phenomenal. That's what I want E3 to be like, but hey, I guess that's just how they want to play it. Fair enough. But I'm hoping for more Zelda information at E3, plus Revolution info. As long as I have that, I'm happy.

ThirdMarioBro

03-07-2005, 05:42 PM

I think they'll just show the extended trailer that the press got to see at the last E3, and we'll see the new stuff at E3. It's only two months now anyway, so they'll wait.....but not on DS noline. They need that to f*ck up the PSP launch.

Kid Icarus

03-08-2005, 01:46 AM

They need that to **** up the PSP in Japan now. The added benefit would be ****ing up the PSP launch here, in Europe, and in Austraila. And, all it'd need is a couple of games: Animal Crossing DS and for the next Pokemon games to be MMORPGs.

ThirdMarioBro

03-08-2005, 11:34 AM

Behold my latest work. Nintendo Symphony - An Overview of Nintendo's Musical History Tell me what you think :)

http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=4037

*edit*

Ken Kutaragi Steps Down A Posistion

March 07, 2005

by: Alan Bui

Ken Kutaragi, the father of Playstation, will be stepping down from his executive deputy president posistion.

TOKYO--Today, Sony announced a major reshuffling of its board of directors. As a part of the changes, Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi, 54, will step down from his position as executive deputy president of the Sony group. Industry watchers were stunned at the announcement, as Kutaragi had been considered a likely candidate for the top spot at Sony. He will remain with Sony as the head of the SCE gaming division and will also be given a new title, that of group executive officer, as of April 1.

In addition to resigning as executive deputy president, Kutaragi will also step down as head of Sony's home electronics and semiconductor solutions divisions. The home electronics division will be taken over by executive deputy president Katsumi Ihara, 54, who has been seen as Kutaragi’s main rival for the top spot at Sony. Unlike Kutaragi, Ihara will continue to hold his position as executive deputy president on the board. The semiconductors solutions division will be managed by Sony executive deputy president Ryoji Chubachi, 57.

source: Gamespot
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Honestly......boo hoo. That's all I'll say.

愛

03-08-2005, 08:45 PM

That's quite a long article, TMB, but very informative. I already knew the information, but it's very good for someone who doesn't know.

And this thread always amazes me with its constant stabs at Sony. Again, I'll leave this alone, because I just don't give a f*ck anymore.

ThirdMarioBro

03-08-2005, 09:00 PM

That's quite a long article, TMB, but very informative. I already knew the information, but it's very good for someone who doesn't know.

Yup. I knew you already knew it. ;) Just wanted to help those who don't. :)

愛

03-08-2005, 09:02 PM

Like, I literally was reading it and thought to myself, "OH MY GOD WHEN DOES THIS END?!?!?" If you can ever read through the whole thing, you can get a lot of information out of it. Well done.

Peanut

03-09-2005, 01:20 AM

Don't know what everyone is going to make of this.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/594/594565p1.html

Doesn't sound very appealing to me.

Barkworm

03-09-2005, 02:07 AM

That trailer looked incredibly cheesy. A hedgehog with a gun?! Please...

ThirdMarioBro

03-09-2005, 02:29 AM

Okay, I'll hold my mough shut until I can see more of this at E3. If it's good, then great. If it sucks, then f*ck Sega, and that'll be the end of it. Sonic better damn well be in it or else. I like Shadow, but I want Sonic. He's like one of those few little things from my past that is still around, and this "Gun Mechanic" does little to get my hopes up. All I want is run, jump, spin, and maybe a little grinding. That's it. Having Shadow playable sounded great. That's what everyone wanted. Just the Sonic & Shadow levels, but that damn gun is gonna kill the whole thing and screw the whole engine. Why in the hell can't they go back to the old SA style.....oh wait, SAMMY.

*edit*

Okay, on second thought, maybe I'll try to have a little faith. Sonic Adventure 2's trailer looked like sh*t at first as well, but it turned out great. Let's just give it a little time. But like I said, if it sucks, then f*ck Sega. This is their last chance in my eyes. Get it right, or just let me remember what they once were and shack up with Ninty till the end.

*edit again*

Okay, I saw some more screens with some apolyptic stuff in them and that gets my hopes up. That's another thing that pissed me off about Heroes. It was all bright, sunny, and the story sucked. Hopefully this will be better in that department.