The Nintendo Discussion Thread

[Turo602]

Brodie, your not going to get on my nerves with that. I love arguing about that stuff with my friend, I educate him on Marvel and DC and he educates me on anime, and that was my geek side on that thread.

And my point was that the Wii can look good and be up to date while still being casual and fun but good enough for hardcore gamers. You guys have good arguments but the only reason I mentioned the M rating is because it's all over the place on the 360 and PS3. Don't get me wrong I love the Wii, hate the Playstation, and think 360 is the best. But the Wii just feels like a Gamecube with motion controls.

[Peanut]

the only reason I mentioned the M rating is because it's all over the place on the 360 and PS3.

But what does that have to do with anything? The rating of a game is the least important thing about it.

[Powder]

Wii is enjoyed by its players because it ISNT xbox or ps...

Not everyone likes tons of buttons and five thousand uber serious games. I like my oldschool stuff, even though like someone else said, they only come out in small doses. Most nintendo games/characters are so popular because anyone can pick them up, they're reasonably innocent, and are an actual 'escape from reality' whereas all these wargames & sh!t are a reminder of how violent/corrupt the real world is. Not to mention little kids deserve to have their own video games too.

[Ninjinister]

This is awesome.

[Turo602]

But what does that have to do with anything? The rating of a game is the least important thing about it.

I guess I'm coming off a little dumb. Wait.

The M rated game is usually going to be a shooter or something violent. And that is my style of gaming and usually other hardcore gamers. And I'm saying it should be both fun and casual but still being hardcore. It could be as creative as any other thing that Nintendo comes up with(which I like about Nintendo) but still hardcore.

Wii is enjoyed by its players because it ISNT xbox or ps...

Not everyone likes tons of buttons and five thousand uber serious games. I like my oldschool stuff, even though like someone else said, they only come out in small doses. Most nintendo games/characters are so popular because anyone can pick them up, they're reasonably innocent, and are an actual 'escape from reality' whereas all these wargames & sh!t are a reminder of how violent/corrupt the real world is. Not to mention little kids deserve to have their own video games too.

You have swade me. I totally agree with you.

[Peanut]

The M rated game is usually going to be a shooter or something violent. And that is my style of gaming and usually other hardcore gamers.

No...this is a complete fallacy. Your ignorance of this medium is steadily becoming more clear to me.

And stop using terms like "hardcore". They're a complete f*cking joke. Anyone who actually fits the description of "hardcore" is generally going to get sick just hearing it.

[Turo602]

And stop using terms like "hardcore". They're a complete f*cking joke. Anyone who actually fits the description of "hardcore" is generally going to get sick just hearing it.

What else do you want me to call a gamer that is true to playing and likes only the good games, and also takes gaming seriously?

And I'm being serious, If it bothers you I'll stop, I'm not going to be an ass.

[Ninjinister]

What else do you want me to call a gamer that is true to playing and likes only the good games, and also takes gaming seriously?

.....Sheep.

[Peanut]

.....Sheep.

This. Or "brah". That seems to fit with your definition.

Just imagine, only playing the "good" games. Oh, that's funny.

[Turo602]

.....Sheep.

Who else agrees with sheep:lol:

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/10430747.gif

Turo, please shut the fu*k up before your mommie finds out you are using her laptop and grounds your ass.

The 3DS runs on the Tegra chip. We don't know which varient the 3DS will be using (models range from 600Mhz to 800Mhz and can output 720p minimum), but no matter what that's still a hell of a horsepower upgrade from the 67+33 Mhz ARM combo the DS is currently running.

[Brodie]

Those types of people are usually trying to live an image as a "real" gamer.

A real gamer plays whatever the **** they want, on whatever console they want, educates themselves on the subject, devices and games. You can take gaming seriously and still play **** like Jurassic The Hunted, or 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand, and whatever ****** games come along.

You cant have much of an education or palette for what a "good" game is unless you actually play the bad stuff.

What the hell is "true to playing"?

[Cure]

What else do you want me to call a gamer that is true to playing and likes only the good games, and also takes gaming seriously?


You play sh*ttier games than any of us!

[ThirdMarioBro]

Let's call the Gamestop this kid is buying his M rated games from and get somebody's ass fired.

[Brodie]

What else do you want me to call a gamer that is true to playing and likes only the good games, and also takes gaming seriously? .

Wait...I know you...


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[Powder]

EDIT: wrong thread

[TheCanadiandrome]

Wii is enjoyed by its players because it ISNT xbox or ps...

Not everyone likes tons of buttons and five thousand uber serious games. I like my oldschool stuff, even though like someone else said, they only come out in small doses. Most nintendo games/characters are so popular because anyone can pick them up, they're reasonably innocent, and are an actual 'escape from reality' whereas all these wargames & sh!t are a reminder of how violent/corrupt the real world is. Not to mention little kids deserve to have their own video games too.

totally agree. that's why i like the Wii. but i also enjoy 360 and PS3 as well

[Turo602]

Wait...I know you...


vyufDxxWIsM

Dude no one wants to see your lame home made video.

You play sh*ttier games than any of us!

That's what you think idiot. Just because I experimented with a few games and tried to finish them as quick as possible doesn't mean sh*t. What's 10 bucks for a game, it's sh*t.

Let's call the Gamestop this kid is buying his M rated games from and get somebody's ass fired.

Uh huh, I'm not retarded when it comes to buying games, Gamestop is one of the worst place to buy games especially since they know how to rip off idiots.

Turo, please shut the fu*k up before your mommie finds out you are using her laptop and grounds your ass.

Is that what your mom did when she caught you.

And lets just all please shut the f**k up and that means me too. Arggghh:x

[Brodie]

Dude no one wants to see your lame home made video.


Wow, you new to the internet...I guess you would have been 10 or 11 when that video hit.

[GK Punk]

It's been so long since a Chad Warden video was posted here.

"Get an education, Chad" still makes me lol.

[愛]

Chad Warden makes me cry every time. The best video on the internet.

[Turo602]

Those types of people are usually trying to live an image as a "real" gamer.

A real gamer plays whatever the **** they want, on whatever console they want, educates themselves on the subject, devices and games. You can take gaming seriously and still play **** like Jurassic The Hunted, or 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand, and whatever ****** games come along.

You cant have much of an education or palette for what a "good" game is unless you actually play the bad stuff.

What the hell is "true to playing"?

I agree with you 100%

Wow, you new to the internet...I guess you would have been 10 or 11 when that video hit.

I was being sarcastic.

And I hate Chad Warden. I first saw that video at Code X and he is laaaame. I'm surprised he made it on the forum.

[Peanut]

That's what you think idiot. Just because I experimented with a few games and tried to finish them as quick as possible doesn't mean sh*t. What's 10 bucks for a game, it's sh*t.


Alright, pal. The fact that you played through both Army of Two and Kane & Lynch twice shows just how much you "experiment" with sh*t games.

And seriously, going on about playing the best games is the stupidest thing ever.

[Powder]

LMFAO I KNEW he'd get banned! I hoped at least.

[Mutated Turtle]

LMFAO I KNEW he'd get banned! I hoped at least.

How did he get banned?

[Powder]

How did he get banned?

Probably for being an argumentative jerk who implied that his opinions were facts.

[Mecha Cow]

He made an alternate account and used it to troll others.

[ThirdMarioBro]

What a douchebag.

Random crap: Am I the only one who thinks Mega Man X 1-3 would have sounded better on Genesis? Capcom should have really quit using those crappy stock SNES samples so late in the machine's life. It was capable of such more.

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[Powder]

I'm bias to Sega music so to me its perfect as is.

[Dr. Doom]

That is shockingly impressive, if it is indeed what it claims to me. I guess I don't remember the Genesis sounding anywhere near that good.

[GK Punk]

I always loved the way the Genesis sounded. The Valis games had such great soundtracks on those systems.

[Krang]

Same here. The Sonic series, Ristar, and the Streets of Rage series are also great examples of what the Genesis could do with music (not to mention some of my favorite video game soundtracks).

[ThirdMarioBro]

That is shockingly impressive, if it is indeed what it claims to me. I guess I don't remember the Genesis sounding anywhere near that good.

It depended whose hands it was in. Most people totally ignored the PSG sound channels in favor of exclusively using the FM synth. Problem was that there were only five (I think) FM sound channels, plus the drum samples. One of those usually went to sound effects. Composers like Yuzo Koshiro, Masato Nakamura, John Baker, Howard Drossin, Hyakutarou Tsukumo, Spencer Nielsen, and yes, Michael Jackson knew how to blend the FM with the PSG to create a melodic blend of 16-bit awesome. Of course, when misused, the machine could sound like total sh*t.

The Super NES had a larger selection of quality music IMO, but its early games suffered from composers using the stock dev kit samples rather than loading their own. Capcom used these all the way into 1995 with all the Street Fighter ports and Mega Man titles. The only two people who ever made those stock samples sound awesome were Koji Kondo and Soyo Oka. The SNES was capable of brilliant sound when using custom samples. Look at Rare and Square's stuff. Its a shame that Capcom kept using inferior samples for so long because their composition quality is among the greatest of all time.

[XERO]

Gah, I keep missin' the good sh*t. Oh, well...

I wonder how it would be if the Donkey Kong Country series' music was on the Genesis sound channels? Or what if Sonic was on the SNES sound chips?

The video game music world would be quite different, indeed.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Maybe something like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYFyJA_4jVo&feature=related

Yeah, I'll stick with the SNES here.

[GK Punk]

I think that sounds great actually.

[rav4ge]

Look what I found today :)

http://www.mariomayhem.com/downloads/sound_tracks/smashing_live!.jpg

I'm one happy camper.

[oldmanwinters]

What a douchebag.

Random crap: Am I the only one who thinks Mega Man X 1-3 would have sounded better on Genesis? Capcom should have really quit using those crappy stock SNES samples so late in the machine's life. It was capable of such more.


I don't dispute that the SNES had the superior sound capabilities, but I've always been a fan of the twangy, heavy metal sound the Genny pumps out. It just screams 1990s to me!

And I'm actually kinda diggin' that DK2 Genny remix, although I admit the SNES sounds better.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, its not bad by any means, but by scale of flat comparison I'd take SNES any day.

[ThirdMarioBro]

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Now this is the console Metroid I've always wanted. 2/3D platforming from the third person perspective with Prime's best elements kept for the ride, but in the classic Metroid continuity.

[rav4ge]

Now this is the console Metroid I've always wanted. 2/3D platforming from the third person perspective with Prime's best elements kept for the ride, but in the classic Metroid continuity.That looks great, way more appealing than the last 5 or so Metroid games released.

Keeping my fingers crossed...

[Brodie]

TMB, your video didn't post properly...

[rav4ge]

TMB, your video didn't post properly...What do you mean? I can see it.

[Powder]

GAHHHH I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEW METROID.

Really this year might be the best ever... With Samus, Mario & Link, aswell as Sonic all being in the picture.

[TheCanadiandrome]

anyone know where i can get a good list of Wii-Ware and VC games?

[Ninjinister]

Wikipedia.

[Peanut]

Wikipedia.

I think he means what's worthwhile.

[Ninjinister]

I think he means what's worthwhile.

Wikipedia.

[Peanut]

Wikipedia.

There's an article on Wikipedia about which VC and Wii-Ware releases are good? I'd like to see it.

[TheCanadiandrome]

There's an article on Wikipedia about which VC and Wii-Ware releases are good? I'd like to see it.
rofl! i'll look at Wiki. Peanut u got any other sites?

[Ninjinister]

There's an article on Wikipedia about which VC and Wii-Ware releases are good? I'd like to see it.

I was under the impression that the list being good (as in factual, which to my knowledge, the Wikipedia article currently is), not the games, was the question.

[Peanut]

Which still doesn't explain why you replied to my very clear statement with the exact same answer.

But I guess comprehension isn't for all of us.

[Mutated Turtle]

Wikipedia.

Yeah,and we all KNOW how acurate that place is.

[Turo602]

Yeah,and we all KNOW how acurate that place is.

It's really accurate. I don't know why people always complain about that place. It's not like everyone f*cks things up every little second, and if they do it always gets fixed.

[Mutated Turtle]

It's really accurate. I don't know why people always complain about that place. It's not like everyone f*cks things up every little second, and if they do it always gets fixed.

Welcome to Wikipedia,the free enclyclopedia where anyone can edit. What is wrong with this sentance?It should be very obvious.

[Turo602]

What is wrong with this sentance?It should be very obvious.

Read what I said carefully, It get's fixed again and not everyone is an ass who f*ck's thing's up. All the info I get from there is accurate.

[Mutated Turtle]

Read what I said carefully, It get's fixed again and not everyone is an ass who f*ck's thing's up.

No,that's like saying sprite tastes like root beer./discussion.

[Turo602]

No it's not. That's a stupid comparison.

[Mutated Turtle]

No it's not. That's a stupid comparison.

Point is: Wikipedia is not reliable,

[Turo602]

Point is: Wikipedia is not reliable,

Did your teacher tell you this because they all say that and they're all wrong. Like I said all the info I get is accurate.

[Mutated Turtle]

Did your teacher tell you this because they all say that and they're all wrong. Like I said all the info I get is accurate.

Nope. It's not reliable.

[Turo602]

Nope. It's not reliable.

Okay keep telling yourself that. Especially that page with the list of VC and WiiWare titles. It's all wrong then.

[Mutated Turtle]

Okay keep telling yourself that. Especially that page with the list of VC and WiiWare titles. It's all wrong then.

No,not that page,but some are.

[Turo602]

No,not that page,but some are.

Then why did you mention it being unreliable when the whole Wikipedia thing was for that page?

[Spitfire]

Nope. It's not reliable.

Posting on Wiki typically requires you to cite a source where you got the info from. Wiki takes info from several websites and combines it onto one page for convenient viewing. College teachers frown on it because it has potential to be edited by anyone at any time. Realistically someone isn't going to go to the Wiki article on WW2 and change it to "Hitler lived". Even if they did it wouldn't last very long. In any case it's a good jump off point to find websites with information. I use it for research papers sometimes and it works in my favor just fine.

The problem with Wiki was before it got big it was a mess. Now that it's so big there's more people regulating it and the general public needs to recognize that.

[Turo602]

Posting on Wiki typically requires you to cite a source where you got the info from. Wiki takes info from several websites and combines it onto one page for convenient viewing. College teachers frown on it because it has potential to be edited by anyone at any time. Realistically someone isn't going to go to the Wiki article on WW2 and change it to "Hitler lived". Even if they did it wouldn't last very long. In any case it's a good jump off point to find websites with information. I use it for research papers sometimes and it works in my favor just fine.

The problem with Wiki was before it got big it was a mess. Now that it's so big there's more people regulating it and the general public needs to recognize that.

Thank you! couldn't have said it any better then that.

[Brodie]

Pretty sure it was over a month before someone fixed the WIKI article I edited about The Tortoise & The Hare animated movie with Danny Glover....wherein it was about an alien from space coming to earth to kill drug dealers and hunt, and danny glover is tracking this mysterious serial killer, and his deadly traps, and when they meet up he asks what will make him stop killing, and the alien replies "When the Angels wins the pennant."

So, as a completely reliable source...No, it's not. Because any asshole can edit any article without needing to sign in or anything. To be used as a jump off point to look into things though? Yeah, totally legitimate. But I wouldn't trust it wholeheartedly. And the kids right, many educators won't allow it as a source (It would be stupid to cite a wiki article anyway).

[Spitfire]

Sure they can't get to everything. Making sure history articles and articles about things people have actually heard of are more important. It's to no surprise to me it took them time to notice that. That movie doesn't even have it's own page. It's under "Unstable Fables" which I've never even heard of.

If you look at it now it has sources cited next to the information. So if you don't look for the sources to make sure it's not false information that's your own damn problem. Wiki is reliable if you know how to use it and in most cases you don't need to check sources.

[Turo602]

Even though it I agree with you Spitfire.

This thread has really gone off topic.

[Ninjinister]

Which still doesn't explain why you replied to my very clear statement with the exact same answer.

I think he means what's worthwhile.

So I misread "what's" as "that's". Is that really so terrible? Sometimes being ingrained at an early age to speed-read does have its disadvantages. It's not like I pooped in your soup or something. Sheesh.


But I guess comprehension isn't for all of us.

Neither is...

You know what? Anything I say here is just going to start something that definitely does not need to be started. So I'm just not going to go into it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I've been reflecting on the upcoming passing of the DS, and its actually kind of sad. A part of me thinks that the DS may be the last handheld where we regularly see 2D games make it to store shelves. The 3DS is going to be such a technological step up from the original DS hardware that I fear there is going to be a push from third parties to "use the horsepower", and that usually involves shunning 2D software to show off horsepower, or at the very least pushing them to the digital download sphere. Happened in the late 90s, and we might be due for a repeat in the one realm where 2D has always thrived.

Sad, because 2D games are best suited for portability. I hope Nintendo sets a good example by launching with some quality retail 2D software in their lineup.

[Turo602]

I've been reflecting on the upcoming passing of the DS, and its actually kind of sad. A part of me thinks that the DS may be the last handheld where we regularly see 2D games make it to store shelves. The 3DS is going to be such a technological step up from the original DS hardware that I fear there is going to be a push from third parties to "use the horsepower", and that usually involves shunning 2D software to show off horsepower, or at the very least pushing them to the digital download sphere. Happened in the late 90s, and we might be due for a repeat in the one realm where 2D has always thrived.

Sad, because 2D games are best suited for portability. I hope Nintendo sets a good example by launching with some quality retail 2D software in their lineup.

I agree with you, so many great titles on DS were great 2D games like, New Super Mario bros, Sonic Rush, Sonic Rush Adventure, Spider-Man 2, Spider-Man, and TMNT 3 Mutant Nightmare.

But I would really love for the 3DS to have cool 2D games with "Wario Shake It" quality. That game looks so good because the graphics look nice and smooth like a cartoon. Those type of 2D titles and a continuation of the New Super Mario series would be great 2D games.

[poiuytre]

I've been reflecting on the upcoming passing of the DS, and its actually kind of sad. A part of me thinks that the DS may be the last handheld where we regularly see 2D games make it to store shelves. The 3DS is going to be such a technological step up from the original DS hardware that I fear there is going to be a push from third parties to "use the horsepower", and that usually involves shunning 2D software to show off horsepower, or at the very least pushing them to the digital download sphere. Happened in the late 90s, and we might be due for a repeat in the one realm where 2D has always thrived.

Sad, because 2D games are best suited for portability. I hope Nintendo sets a good example by launching with some quality retail 2D software in their lineup.
I worry about the same thing. Luckily I read that Konami trademarked "Harmony of Despair." It sounds like a Metroid-vania name and Igarashi is physically incapable of resisting to borrow assets from Rondo of Blood. If they are really going to develop it for the 3DS like I hope they are, then we will almost certainly have at least one 2D title.

[Peanut]

There will be 2D games on the 3DS. You can count on it.

[TheCanadiandrome]

wow, loved how there was a discussion on Wikipedia here! lol! any way i found what i wanted to know about Wii-Ware and VC games there, shocking i know! but if someone else has any suggestions, i'm all ears. i'm kinda looking to find a comprehensive list of upcoming games on both

[Peanut]

Good luck. Nintendo rarely releases that kind of information for either the VC or Wii-ware.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Good luck. Nintendo rarely releases that kind of information for either the VC or Wii-ware.
damn, figures! oh well

[TheCanadiandrome]

anyone have a DSi XL? do they work with those "Rom" cards?

[Turo602]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! I know what I'm getting.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/108/1087357p1.html

[Brodie]

"By including even more of our top-quality hardware ..." <--This is a joke, right?

"Now more than ever, consumers can count on Nintendo to deliver inclusive fun..." Inclusive is a word we use a lot in my Classroom interventions course to describe classrooms that allow for special needs children to get involved...An "INCLUSIVE" classroom...An "INCLUSIVE" system...

Handicapped fun.

[Powder]

I downloaded Nyxquest: Kindred Spirits (Wiiware) lastnight, its dope! I know theres a little pre-existing 3ds convo goin on here but hey, it is afterall a nintendo thread & I hadda share.

[Ninjinister]

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I'm looking forward to this.

It's adorable, it has a unique graphic style, and gameplay looks like a neat variation on Kirby's Canvas Curse (which I love).

And it's made by Yuji Naka.

Sure, there's a huge chance it's going to blow, but just from initial look, I'm interested.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Actually, that looks pretty damn fun (and adorable). Sign me up.

And Yuji Naka was never the real problem at Sonic team. He wasn't as good as the people he drove out, but given a decent budget and a proper time window, he could make very good games (Sonic Adventure 1+2, and Billy Hatcher). Sega gave him neither.

[TheCanadiandrome]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! I know what I'm getting.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/108/1087357p1.html

if i didn't already have a Wii (Mom bought it from a co-worker) i'd be all over that bundle. and would get it in Black for sure

[Ninjinister]

And Yuji Naka was never the real problem at Sonic team. He wasn't as good as the people he drove out, but given a decent budget and a proper time window, he could make very good games (Sonic Adventure 1+2, and Billy Hatcher). Sega gave him neither.

Yeah, well... the last game he made in recent memory was "Let's Tap" and the only memory I haven't repressed was that they used penguins in the advertising.

Still, I'm very interested in Ivy the Kiwi? and I'm hoping only good things for it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

He also produced those Rub Rabbits games for DS, and I remember laughing my ass off at both of them.

[Powder]

*Youtube video*

I'm looking forward to this.

It's adorable, it has a unique graphic style, and gameplay looks like a neat variation on Kirby's Canvas Curse (which I love).

And it's made by Yuji Naka.

Sure, there's a huge chance it's going to blow, but just from initial look, I'm interested.

Yowza, too tricky for the likes of me! I can't deny it does look pretty neat though.

[Ninjinister]

Interview with Naka regarding Ivy the Kiwi? (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/4411/exclusive_yuji_nakas_new_bird.php)

[Peanut]

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/2/20/Corocoro_BW7.jpg

Weiiiiird. Probably the ugliest set of starters ever, but the water...otter...the...wotter...looks pretty cool. But that pig thing is up there with Torchic and Turtwig for the stupidest looking starters ever. Hopefully their evolutions look better.

[Cure]

The otter's expression is so good. I'm definitely choosing him.

[ThirdMarioBro]

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Awesome interpretations.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I've avoided all media up to now for Mario Galaxy 2, but I couldn't help myself on this one. The orchestrated remix is simply magical.

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[Dr. Doom]

Holy ****, man

[ThirdMarioBro]

Here's a better recording.

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The embargo on content ended today, so expect a flood of media between now and Sunday.

[Dr. Doom]

Jesus ****ing christ

[Turo602]

Cool it's back to old school!

[Peanut]

I've avoided all media up to now for Mario Galaxy 2, but I couldn't help myself on this one. The orchestrated remix is simply magical.

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I'm not going to look, but I'm guessing this has something to do with the Whomp's Castle level. I'm so super f*cking PISSED that Joystiq spoiled it entirely on their front page. The picture and caption was enough to send me into a rage. I can't look at anything else for it.

[Cure]

I'm not going to look, but I'm guessing this has something to do with the Whomp's Castle level. I'm so super f*cking PISSED that Joystiq spoiled it entirely on their front page. The picture and caption was enough to send me into a rage. I can't look at anything else for it.

I know exactly what you're talking about even without looking at the spoiler you wrote. I was mighty angry at that sh*t, too.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Initially, I was pissed as well, but I got over it because I needed something to jump start my happy meter. I've been cynical about so many things for so long, but every time I see Mario it immediately cheers me up.

GOTFY. There will be no contest. This may actually be Nintendo's best game.

[Turo602]

Just wait till the next Zelda. It's been a long wait and now at E3, we'll get more then just a picture. IM SOOOOOOOOOOO GEEKED!!! But Mario did get a perfect score on IGN, can't wait to get it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Its getting 10s mostly everywhere. I was on Skype with Matt at Kombo last night while he played through it. I was hearing some old sound effects I haven't heard in a long time.

[XERO]

I saw the commercial for the first time today.

I'm so in love.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Its so funny, because Nintendo is always about reinventing the wheel with Mario that they don't make the games very often. They haven't made a numbered Mario sequel since Super Mario World (subtitled SMB4 in Japan), and that was 1990. I guess its always about innovation with them, but you know, sometimes a little polish and renovation is all we need. Super Mario Bros. 3 was 2D perfection and World built on that foundation to make something that was just more perfect (if that's even possible).

I think we're looking at another Super Mario World here. That's a beautiful thought.

[XERO]

Next title is gonna be called Super Mario We Own You All.

BET ON IT.

[Dr. Doom]

I'm pretty ****ing pissed off at whatever chump wrote Kotaku's review right now for having the grapes to actually COMPLAIN about Galaxy 2's soundtrack for being "too big" or some asinine horse **** like that.

[XERO]

Maybe he wanted Kayne West to do samples for it instead. :P

[Dr. Doom]

Also, there will be absolutely no ****ing excuse for another console Zelda without an orchestrated soundtrack.

[XERO]

YES. We got robbed with that MIDI crap in Twilight Princess. In my opinion, that kinda hurt the game's legacy.

If they do go orchestrated, it's gonna rival Galaxy 2's soundtrack, guaranteed.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I'm pretty ****ing pissed off at whatever chump wrote Kotaku's review right now for having the grapes to actually COMPLAIN about Galaxy 2's soundtrack for being "too big" or some asinine horse **** like that.

Did you expect anything less? Its Kotaku -- the pimple on the butthole of video game journalism.

Also, there will be absolutely no ****ing excuse for another console Zelda without an orchestrated soundtrack.

True. There is no going back now. Not after this kind of musical magic we've experienced in TWO Mario games. Hell, Banjo-Kazooie beat Zelda to the Orchestra pit.

[XERO]

Too bad they didn't beat them to the Gameplay pit.

[ThirdMarioBro]

God, I've been playing Galaxy 2 since 10:00am when I got home with it. Currently at 40 stars. Its the best game I've ever played. Its the perfection of an art form. There really isn't much else to say.

The Super Mario World references everywhere are so amazing. SMW Athletic theme and the Ghost Hosue theme in Haunty Halls. God, that musical arrangement of Koopa's Road is unbelievable. I didn't think they could improve on it from the last one. Give Koji and Mahito a larger Orchestra budget and they can make anything better. I love that the stages are broken into one or two (regular) stars at most.

The variety is astounding. I could probably play another six hours straight, but I don't want to finish it too quickly, and I've got two articles to write tonight.

[Turo602]

God, I've been playing Galaxy 2 since 10:00am when I got home with it. Currently at 40 stars. Its the best game I've ever played. Its the perfection of an art form. There really isn't much else to say.

The Super Mario World references everywhere are so amazing. SMW Athletic theme and the Ghost Hosue theme in Haunty Halls. God, that musical arrangement of Koopa's Road is unbelievable. I didn't think they could improve on it from the last one. Give Koji and Mahito a larger Orchestra budget and they can make anything better. I love that the stages are broken into one or two (regular) stars at most.

The variety is astounding. I could probably play another six hours straight, but I don't want to finish it too quickly, and I've got two articles to write tonight.

Man, you are making me want it more! I might get it sometime this week since Kmart has a good deal on it so that way I can also get Mario Party 8 for 15 bucks.

[XERO]

He's the ThirdMarioBro for a reason. ;)

[Peanut]

I only got to get 2 stars when I got home last night before RL took over, but what I played was awesome. Jumping on Yoshi, complete with the same sound effects, and the soundtrack getting all cloppy while riding him, was enough to make me fall in love with it. Can't wait to play more.

Edit: Oh, man. Just spent like 2 hours with Galaxy 2. AMAZING! There are sooooo many bosses. I feel like there's one or more for every single galaxy.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Just hit 61 and Throwback Galaxy. This is why Miyamoto is and forever will be the king. Best game I've ever played.

[Peanut]

I'm pretty blown away by the fact that SMG2 got 10's from both Gamespot and IGN, sites known for coveting that single score for only the most elite games.

I think, in this rare case, the reviews for Galaxy 2 really do show how amazing a game it is. I deserves nothing less than a perfect score.

I'm on World 5, at the 55 star barrier, which I can break, but I've chosen to go back and complete some galaxies and some of the prankster comets. So amazing.

Edit: Throwback Galaxy. Oh my god. I was 11 again.

[Dr. Doom]

I'm pretty blown away by the fact that SMG2 got 10's from both Gamespot and IGN, sites known for coveting that single score for only the most elite games.

Yes, like GTA 4, a very fun but staggeringly imperfect game.

Galaxy 2 deserves it though.

[Peanut]

Of course, IGN gave Soul Calibur a 10, and Gamespot once gave a 10 to THPS3.

What I'm saying is 10's aren't just given away by those two sites. I feel like GTAIV was almost a gimmie, because of what it represented in this generation, but a sequel to Super Mario Galaxy? A Wii game of all things?

That means something.

[Dr. Doom]

I'd say Soul Calibur deserves a 10 (Gamestop gave it one too), but I've never really spent more than a few minutes on it. I guess as a huge fan of the rest of the series I just feel like it deserves one. It is a very deep fighting game. Tony Hawk, I dunno. I had fun with them back in the day, but who knows if I would have given a **** without character creation. I can't really get an accurate picture on that.

I guess we also have to remember the incredibly subjective nature of what we're discussing as well. There's always gonna be some asshole out there who thinks Army of Two is the coolest **** since sliced bread, as well as some other asshole who complains about Galaxy 2's soundtrack being "too big". ****er.

Regardless, I suppose I do see your point about SMG2, considering what the Wii has come to represent.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Edit: Throwback Galaxy. Oh my god. I was 11 again.

Magical, wasn't it?

When the Whomp King went off on his N64 tangent, I nearly died laughing. Go back to paving my roads sucka'!

[Peanut]

Magical, wasn't it?

When the Whomp King went off on his N64 tangent, I nearly died laughing. Go back to paving my roads sucka'!

Haha! Yeah! That was so fantastic.

I just beat the game about 30 minutes ago. Fantastic. I find it odd that there are only 6 worlds and then a special world but it wasn't that big of a deal.

[Dr. Doom]

Apparently Super Mario Galaxy 2 is now the highets rated game of all time on Game Rankings, unseating Ocarina. I never thought I'd see the day. It's actually a bit depressing.

[Peanut]

Yeah, it's so depressing that another game is better than one made over 10 years ago.

Not that...you know, there haven't been dozens of better games than OoT in over a decade. Not at all. The fact that OoT stood as the highest rated game for that long was because it had never been surpassed, right? Not because there are simply more outlets with reviews taken into account, as well as more reviewers who are more cynical and critical of games now than in 1998.

[Dr. Doom]

Oh for the love of ****.

[Peanut]

Shut your mouth, b*tch! SHUT. IT.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The only record I was ever depressed to see fall was Super Mario Bros. (41 million units) loosing to Wii Sports (stopped counting at 55 million units). I was actually pretty happy when Super Mario Bros. 3's individual sales (ie: non pack-in title) title fell to New Super Mario Bros. It was refreshing to know the old italian still had that ability, even if between the two SMB3 is the better game.

Either way, tis' a good thing. I'm honestly glad Mario has taken his rightful place on top of Gamerankings as the best of all time. Ocarina has been sitting there on a technicality for FAR too long.

Just beat the game and two of the special world stages. The ending was fantastic, and the last boss fight ranks up there with Yoshi's Island. Still have a ton of stars to clear, but this is easily the best game I've ever played.

[TheCanadiandrome]

The only record I was ever depressed to see fall was Super Mario Bros. (41 million units) loosing to Wii Sports (stopped counting at 55 million units). I was actually pretty happy when Super Mario Bros. 3's individual sales (ie: non pack-in title) title fell to New Super Mario Bros. It was refreshing to know the old italian still had that ability, even if between the two SMB3 is the better game.

Either way, tis' a good thing. I'm honestly glad Mario has taken his rightful place on top of Gamerankings as the best of all time. Ocarina has been sitting there on a technicality for FAR too long.

Just beat the game and two of the special world stages. The ending was fantastic, and the last boss fight ranks up there with Yoshi's Island. Still have a ton of stars to clear, but this is easily the best game I've ever played.
you beat SMG2 already? dang! marathon gaming?

[Voidoid]

Gaaaah I was trying so hard to talk myself out of buying this game, but it seems to be impossible. After hearing all of the reviews, gloating, and this is the "bestest game evar" I think I finally broke. ......Guess I'll pick it up in the morning...

[Storm Eagle]

If only I were still following Mario to this day.

I fell off after Super Mario 64, but the next Mario game I bought after that was New Super Mario Bros. I got that in 2008, since I was going on a vacation that summer, and I figured that if I wanted a fresh new game to take with me on vacation, that would have to be it. I finished it on my vacation, and then decided to sell it some time later, along with the player's guide I got for it (which I originally got at a Circuity City while on my vacation for just ONE CENT).

I'll still play past Mario games to this day though. I think recently I went and played Super Mario Bros. 3 some time last year.

If anyone here lives in New York like myself, did anyone get Super Mario Galaxy 2 at the Nintendo World store in NYC on the 23rd? They were celebrating its launch there. I went, and even though I didn't buy the game, I got my copy of Super Mario 64 (as well as the box) signed by Charles Martinet, since he was also there.

[XERO]

Man, Charles Martinet has got to be the most consistent video game voice actor ever.

[Dr. Doom]

Ignoring for a moment Peanut's volatile menstruation cycle and the bloody discharge of his uterus lining, I decided that if New Super Mario Bros. was more like the 2D sections in Galaxy 2 and less like the older games, I'd probably like it a lot more. I'm not particularly sure what the major defining difference is, but NSMB, at least the DS one, always felt to me more like the very first game than anything else.

[XERO]

Well, yeah, considering that you couldn't fly. :P

Yet, you could butt stomp and wall jump...

[Cure]

Ignoring for a moment Peanut's volatile menstruation cycle and the bloody discharge of his uterus lining

I dunno, getting depressed over a game losing its spot seems like a girlier thing to me.

[Peanut]

Ignoring for a moment Peanut's volatile menstruation cycle and the bloody discharge of his uterus lining, I decided that if New Super Mario Bros. was more like the 2D sections in Galaxy 2 and less like the older games, I'd probably like it a lot more. I'm not particularly sure what the major defining difference is, but NSMB, at least the DS one, always felt to me more like the very first game than anything else.

Ignoring your horrible attempt to insult the way your boyfriend does, did you play NSMB Wii? If you have, and your opinion is still the same, you're retarded. NSMB was supposed to be like SMB, NSMB Wii feels a lot more like World.

I honestly found the 2D levels/sections of SMG2 to be the least appealing. If I wanted that kind of thing...well...there's an amazing game like that already on the Wii.

[Dr. Doom]

your boyfriend

Thanks alot, asshole. My beautiful girlfriend Hannah doesn't know about him yet! Boy, have I got some explaining to do.

I was talking more so about the DS game. I did play it on the Wii but with 3 other people, so there was a little too much going on for me to really take in much of what happened.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Ignoring your horrible attempt to insult the way your boyfriend does, did you play NSMB Wii? If you have, and your opinion is still the same, you're retarded. NSMB was supposed to be like SMB, NSMB Wii feels a lot more like World.

My opinion of NSMB DS is mixed. I appreciate its existence for jump-starting the 2D revival. Its obviously superior to the original SMB, but that game is 25 years old, so no major accomplishment there. Had that one game been all there was, I would probably look back on it more favorably, but then along came NSMBWii to kick its ass with some awesome level design (some of which can compete with SMB3 and World's best). NSMBDS felt less like a "new" game (even in 2005), and more like a developer tutorial for a new generation on how to play a side-scrolling game. Plus, it was hella' easy and omitted the Koopa Kids in favor of Bowser Jr. I don't hate Jr. (his boss fights are AMAZING in Galaxy 2, but he had no business being reused 9 times in one game with little/no variation. NSMBW > NSMBDS.

I honestly found the 2D levels/sections of SMG2 to be the least appealing. If I wanted that kind of thing...well...there's an amazing game like that already on the Wii.

I thought they were incredibly well blended, but yeah, a dedicated 2D game is always better than 2 1/2D.

[Cure]

Whoa, son! What happened here?!

Anyway, Kirby is 10/17, homies. That's super soooooooooon.

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/thumb_51J5q2WXwvL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

[Ninjinister]

Whoa, son! What happened here?!

Anyway, Kirby is 10/17, homies. That's super soooooooooon.

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/thumb_51J5q2WXwvL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Ooh, hadn't seen that cover art before, thanks!

[ThirdMarioBro]

Qn6Isg0bmVU

Nintendo finally figures out advertising.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Whoa, son! What happened here?!

Anyway, Kirby is 10/17, homies. That's super soooooooooon.

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/thumb_51J5q2WXwvL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

this ain't my cup of tea

[Ninjinister]

this ain't my cup of tea

I don't recall anyone asking you if it was.

If you're going to comment like that, you've got to provide some elaboration and context, man. Otherwise it just seems like trolling.

And also Kirby > You.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I don't recall anyone asking you if it was.

If you're going to comment like that, you've got to provide some elaboration and context, man. Otherwise it just seems like trolling.

And also Kirby > You.

excuse me? woah whatever dude! gees all i did was make a friggin comment which had nothing to do with you btw. and i have a right to make a comment so stfu

[愛]

You must be new around here.

Making a negative comment on a game and not providing any specific reason to back it up is considered trolling. While your comment wasn't exactly negative or insulting, in this section, you gotta provide reasons. You'll be eaten alive if you don't. Also, no attacking other members.

Just a fair warning.

[Cure]

I like how "You must be new around here" is like, the section's motto now.

[Peanut]

this ain't my cup of tea

Care to elaborate? Is it the fact that Kirby games simply don't appeal to you, and I wouldn't blame you if they didn't, or is it that you're a douche who thinks it's "too kiddie". Not saying either is true, just looking for some reason to you not liking it.

[The Stryker]

Elaboration? Get outta here!

NUFF SAID.

[Dr. Doom]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/TobiasFenrir/126427528680.gif

I think I might have stolen this picture from someone here. Oh well.

[Peanut]

Could you get anymore lame? At all?

[Turo602]

Could you get anymore lame? At all?

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

But I think TMNT Canadian might have been referring to the cover and not the game. I could be right I could be wrong, who knows?

[Dr. Doom]

Listen man, I love that gif, I don't care what you think. It was either that or "OH DAMN" and let's face it, a little something new is probably for the best.

[Peanut]

Daymn never grows old. Never.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Space Ghost is the fu*king man.

[Dr. Doom]

See? Somebody agress with me.


Oh wait. It's TMB. ****.

[XERO]

His sig makes me chuckle, though. :P

[TheCanadiandrome]

You must be new around here.

Making a negative comment on a game and not providing any specific reason to back it up is considered trolling. While your comment wasn't exactly negative or insulting, in this section, you gotta provide reasons. You'll be eaten alive if you don't. Also, no attacking other members.

Just a fair warning.

umkay whatever not that it's any of your business! and he was attacking me fyi! :trolleye:


Is it the fact that Kirby games simply don't appeal to you, and I wouldn't blame you if they didn't, or is it that you're a douche who thinks it's "too kiddie". Not saying either is true, just looking for some reason to you not liking it.

i've never liked Kirby games at all. just too cutsie and kiddie so that being said both of those reasons acutally. and c'mon with the childdish name-calling

[愛]

umkay whatever not that it's any of your business! and he was attacking me fyi! :trolleye:

Actually, it is my business. Jesus Christ, does anyone even read the forum rules anymore?

[Cure]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/KevMan87/Untitled-1.png

This tickled me.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Actually, it is my business. Jesus Christ, does anyone even read the forum rules anymore?

yes i did, and i'd like to draw your attention to this:

"Respect the opinions of other members. Gamers are a passionate group, and every gamer has a different preference in the games he or she chooses, and the consoles they own. That doesn't give an excuse for them to be attacked for their interests."

which fyi btw, nobody did with me

[愛]

You came into a thread giving an opinion on a game without even providing a reason, and you expected to be given respect? Are you new to the internet or something?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/KevMan87/Untitled-1.png

This tickled me.

That had me laughing pretty good. Oh, Kirby...

[Ninjinister]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/KevMan87/Untitled-1.png

This tickled me.

Holy God that's adorable. This kind of stuff is why I love Kirby.

[Peanut]

i've never liked Kirby games at all. just too cutsie and kiddie so that being said both of those reasons acutally. and c'mon with the childdish name-calling

Well...generally, people who dislike games because they're too "cutsie and kiddie" are douches, so I feel it was valid assumption.

[Jo Dawn]

I adore that Kirby picture. Plus, it made me laugh twice looking at it.

[TheCanadiandrome]

You came into a thread giving an opinion on a game without even providing a reason, and you expected to be given respect? Are you new to the internet or something?



if this is the kind of bullsh*t treatment i'm going to recieve coming into these forums then i'm staying away cause this is total bs that i get attacked for no f'n reason. so whatever dude. u can byte me! :trolleye:

Well...generally, people who dislike games because they're too "cutsie and kiddie" are douches, so I feel it was valid assumption.

oh gee well i guess that's alright then. just cause u don't like it :trolleye:

[The Stryker]

Have a good one!

[Brodie]

i u can byte me! :trolleye:




Byte? Huh?

http://www.rbcorner.com/images/megabyte.jpg

[愛]

if this is the kind of bullsh*t treatment i'm going to recieve coming into these forums then i'm staying away cause this is total bs that i get attacked for no f'n reason. so whatever dude. u can byte me! :trolleye:

If anything, you were the one attacking others when all they wanted was a simple explanation to your opinion. You couldn't even provide that before asking someone to shut up? We're glad you're leaving.

Sigh...rookies.

[XERO]

Man, that was quick. Guess him and Ryu have something in common...

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[Peanut]

oh gee well i guess that's alright then. just cause u don't like it :trolleye:

I don't like Kirby either. I generally find the games to boring and lacking in every department, but saying you don't like something because it's too "kiddie" is childish. Are you 12 years old? Grow up.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Are you 12 years old? Grow up.

um. you first

[Dr. Doom]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/TobiasFenrir/OHDAMN.jpg

[ThirdMarioBro]

That's more like it.

Am I the only one about to go crazy waiting for Metroid: Other M to come out?

[Peanut]

Yes. It looks not good. You don't even collect weapons apparently? Sounds lame as HELL.

[Turo602]

That's more like it.

Am I the only one about to go crazy waiting for Metroid: Other M to come out?

Nope, I'm with you. I already pre-ordered it, but sadly I won't be able to play it until a long while.:-? I'm caught up on way to many games. First I got to finish Tomb Raider Underworld and Mario Galaxy (Almost done, I got like 90 Stars) then when I finish the last Co-op level in Splinter Cell Chaos Theory tonight the next game on the list will be Double Agent and Conviction. After that I got to hurry up on finishing up them Resident Evil Games, then I got to play Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 (That's going to take a very good amount of my gaming time), Oh yeah then Halo Reach, Gears 3, and Skyward Sword is coming (gotta make time for those, and by the time I ever get to Metroid, I have to play Zero Mission, Prime Trilogy, Hunters, Super Metroid, and Finally Other M.:x

So yeah I'll be pretty busy.:roll:

[Storm Eagle]

Nope, I'm with you. I already pre-ordered it, but sadly I won't be able to play it until a long while.:-? l

Me, I'm wondering if I'll even be able to hold on to mine. I reserved it at GameStop, so I'll probably even get the bonus item that they're giving out to those who reserve. Money is a bit tight, so if I decide I'm going to need the cash, I might just have to take it back. It doesn't help that I'll be going out of town next weekend for a few days either.

[ThirdMarioBro]

So I played through the first two hours of Other M. I'm loving it so far. The controls are a little twitchy, but I don't see the complaints about the switch to first person mode. It's pretty smooth to me. I also love the seamlessness between the CGI and the in-game engine. Probably the most seamless transition I've seen in a game. Now, I can understand the bitching about weapons not being collectible this time, but only if you're not into the story. I'm totally engrossed in it myself. I've been waiting for a little emotional insight into the character of Samus for as long as I've known the series, and I think they tied it all together really well. Besides, a formula could use a little variety after 20 years.

What pisses me off is people complaining about the fact just because the story introduces some personal drama into Samus's life, that suddenly she's now a "chick" and looses her badass status. How does showing emotion and allowing Samus a little character development for the first time in 20 years make her less of a badass? The thing that bothers me about reviews is that people have whined and complained for generations of consoles for Nintendo to allow some storylines into their games. Now that the only franchise in their stable to ever actually have a continuous narrative for twenty-three years has gone and done just that, people think it lessens the character of Samus.

I welcome the story, and the change in gameplay. Things are fresh, yet familiar. Samus has always needed to have some character development. Up until very recently, she's been nothing more than a Boba Fett-esque helmet, but with only a fraction of the mythology. Now she's a human being, who also happens to have wiped out a species, and killed the fire breathing dragon that murdered her parents, blown apart thousands of alien space pirates, and blown up a fu*king planet. Does allowing some insight into her mind lessen those feats of badassery?

Oh, and for the record, it wasn't Team Ninja that came up with this story. It was Yoshio Sakamoto -- creator of Metroid -- some 15 years ago.

[Turo602]

I know people bitch too much. Samus is still as badass as she was yesterday. I personally like to see character development and heavy story. It's what makes any game more worth playing, instead of doing something pointless with someone you have no idea about. I know I will enjoy this game a lot when I play it, and I'll also appreciate the story more and the character of Samus a lot more.

[Storm Eagle]

I still have yet to play this game, but I just read that X-Play isn't giving the game much love either. This is how I first found out, by reading a statement someone said about X-Play's Morgan Webb's take on it.

Just watched X-Play's review of "Metroid: Other M". It got 2 stars out of 5. Morgan Webb had this to say to Team Ninja in regards to Samus' butchered and emo-fied characterization in the game.

"F*ck you."

Just like that, I fell in love with Morgan Webb all over again

I don't want to judge X-Play about this, but I'm kind of getting the vibe that they're probably just anti-Nintendo. Also, the fact that this person gained more respect for Morgan Webb on account of that "f*ck you" statement alone makes me twitch.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, people are cynical fu*ktards. And I don't really care what Morgan Webb has to say on the matter. What little time I've spent with her was that of her being a bitch.

[Storm Eagle]

Yeah, people are cynical fu*ktards. And I don't really care what Morgan Webb has to say on the matter. What little time I've spent with her was that of her being a bitch.

Yeah, I guess you're right about your first sentence, and I doubt people would be this cynical about this if it were something on an X-Box or a PlayStation system. Also, not to sound sexist, but as a female, you'd think Morgan Webb would understand the whole emotion thing. Especially with HER personality.

Just out of morbid curiosity, what other games has she bashed like this? I don't think I like her much myself, and I'm sorry I had to see her face while looking for that video review she did. In all fairness, the play control scheme does sound kind of out there, so that might be a legitimate complaint at least.

[Brodie]

I've played a few hours of it, and I'm kind of with TMB. The added story stuff is fine. Yes, how they madate which/how weapons are used is dumb, but just as dumb as losing them by happenstance ten minutes into the game.

The g4 stuff was insane, especially with them doing a 20 minute video after defending their review. Really? Stand by it and let it go, don't try to drum up hits by shouting out cries of sexism and sexual degredation.

The "sexism" within the game doesn't really exist. If the Adam character was more of a sexual dynamic or overpowering asshole, it'd be more sexist. But the fact that hes portrayed as essentially the father figure to Samus kind of deflates those arguements.

Samus' acting though? ****ing terrible.

Is it perfect? Of course not. But at least its explained, and the people spouting off "SEXISM SEXISM SEXISM" Need to nut up and stop acting like whiny little girls.

[Storm Eagle]

You know, Morgan Webb's review left a bad taste in my mouth, but so far I haven't really had a problem with other people expressing what they thought was flawed about the game. I guess it's probably because Morgan Webb came off as a bitch to me.

[Brodie]

Yeah, there are a ton of flaws with the game, as people have stated. But keep in mind that isn't totally Webb's review, it was written by another woman, and Webb just did the video stuff. So she hasn't played it. The actual g4 reviewer wrote out her review and did the 20 minute follow up.

But yeah, tons of flaws. Definitely feels like a Team Ninja game.

[Peanut]

Oh my GOD so much sh*t being spewed in here.

1) Morgan Webb DIDN'T DO THAT REVIEW! She just did the VO for it on X-Play. It was some tattoo'd up hussy who needs something to whine about who actually wrote the review.

2) Saying that a game like this wouldn't get the same kind of cynicism if it were on another console is nothing short of retarded. If anything, it gets a break because it's a Nintendo product.

My thoughts, go play Shadow Complex. Best Metroid game since Super Metroid.

[Cure]

My thoughts, go play Shadow Complex. Best Metroid game since Super Metroid.

Agreed. This is how a 2D Metroid should be.

What the f*ck is up with Samus turning into a (literal and metaphorical) child in front of Ridley? She's killed this dude plenty of times at this point. Retarded.

I just beat it. It was fun in some parts but others are super annoying, like when they force certain views (first person, over the shoulder) on you. I also never got lost. THIS IS A FLAW.

[Storm Eagle]

Oh my GOD so much sh*t being spewed in here.

1) Morgan Webb DIDN'T DO THAT REVIEW! She just did the VO for it on X-Play. It was some tattoo'd up hussy who needs something to whine about who actually wrote the review.

2) Saying that a game like this wouldn't get the same kind of cynicism if it were on another console is nothing short of retarded. If anything, it gets a break because it's a Nintendo product.

My thoughts, go play Shadow Complex. Best Metroid game since Super Metroid.

Chill out, man. Brodie already set me straight about the review not actually reflecting the opinions of Webb herself. His post was first, and I saw it first.

Also, why would they give it a break for actually being a Nintendo game and not one from Sony or Microsoft?

[ThirdMarioBro]

I know Morgan Webb didn't do the review. I'm just restating the fact that she's a total asshole on and off screen and I don't put a drop of faith into anything she says, whether she wrote it or not. Most of it is sensationalist bullsh*t. There's plenty of gameplay quirks to mention in Other M. I understand that, and I don't defend them. The game should have used analog control, and it should have also allowed movement while in first person mode. Neither issue has really, truly, honestly made me angry though. It can be just a bit inconvenient at times.

But to complain about the story giving Samus an emotional reaction to the world around her is just plain asshole territory. The whole "loner badass stoic silent bounty hunter" dynamic wore old years ago. That review essentially places a double standard on Samus. Master Chief can have a back story, but Samus can't? Suddenly she's a lesser character because she has a voice? That's just sexist bullsh*t. I've been waiting since Metroid Prime for them to let us get in Samus's head. In fact, I was actually pissed that Retro completely ignored the opportunity to flesh out Samus's character some. Narrative has been a strong element of Metroid since Metroid II. This is just the first time they've truly admitted it and brought the story to the forefront.

The gameplay needs some tweaks for the next go around, and they need to restore the weapon collecting format, but if this storytelling structure is the future of Metroid, then I'm totally happy. Samus is such an interesting character. It's nice to see the walls of her helmet finally fall down.

[Peanut]

Chill out, man.

Also, why would they give it a break for actually being a Nintendo game and not one from Sony or Microsoft?

Don't tell me to chill out if you don't know me.

And Nintendo games routinely get a break for being Nintendo games, especially if they're a sequel to a beloved franchise. It's the same way Valve and Blizzard games get a free pass on everything on the PC. It's just the way it works with those kinds of companies.

But to complain about the story giving Samus an emotional reaction to the world around her is just plain asshole territory.

I don't think anyone is complaining about the fact that there is a story, just the fact that it's bad. And let's not kid ourselves, Nintendo mascots have always been almost complete devoid of any real character. Everything to do with the "character" of Samus has been created from the minds of people playing the game, so I find it hilarious that people can even give a sh*t about her outside of her being an avatar in the world of Metroid.

Also, I find it hilarious how much people whine about Nintendo games not getting full VO. Yet every time they do it it's nothing but a complaint about how awful it is. This is yet another reason for idiots to let that sh*t go, but you just know they won't.

[Storm Eagle]

Don't tell me to chill out if you don't know me.


Well you don't know me either, so you really ought to take it easy. I just didn't see a need for you to get all pissy since I saw Brodie's post first. So I had already been set straight.

Anyway, I ended up having to return the copy of Metroid: Other M I bought yesterday, but I got to play it at Best Buy. I'm not sure I'm liking the control scheme. I know it'll take some getting used to. I'm still interested in owning the game though. Hopefully I can get better at the controls when I'm playing it on a regular basis.

[Peanut]

Well you don't know me either, so you really ought to take it easy. I just didn't see a need for you to get all pissy since I saw Brodie's post first. So I had already been set straight.

Again...you don't know me. I'm not pissy, this is my posting style. It's just how I do things. Sorry about that.

[Ninjinister]

At the risk of igniting another fire:

vkht8JTdyOo

[Turo602]

Anyway, I ended up having to return the copy of Metroid: Other M I bought yesterday, but I got to play it at Best Buy. I'm not sure I'm liking the control scheme. I know it'll take some getting used to. I'm still interested in owning the game though. Hopefully I can get better at the controls when I'm playing it on a regular basis.

Now I'm a little worried, does the control suck that bad? I just hope I could adjust to it quickly when I start playing it.

Well you don't know me either, so you really ought to take it easy. I just didn't see a need for you to get all pissy since I saw Brodie's post first. So I had already been set straight.

Don't worry that's just how he is. He sounds like he's being ass but he's not. He's just really sarcastic. Trust me, It took me a while to figure it out. Right Peanut?

[XERO]

Nah, he's being an ass.

[The Stryker]

Nobody was talking to you?

[XERO]

Yeah, I forgot... they were talking to YOU.

[Peanut]

You're correct, Turo.

Nah, he's being an ass.

Do you ever stop saying dumb things? You'd think with all the sitting around you do that you could come up with some decent material.

At the risk of igniting another fire:

He's just way too damn cute. I need that game.

[XERO]

Do you ever stop saying dumb things? You'd think with all the sitting around you do that you could come up with some decent material.

Yeah, how is it dumb when it's the plain ol' truth? A truth you yourself admitted to?

And 'decent material'? This isn't Technodrome's Got Talent, sir. We just have different views of humor, I suppose. I just made the mistake of thinking you'd get a chuckle out of it.

[Brodie]

Now I'm a little worried, does the control suck that bad? I just hope I could adjust to it quickly when I start playing it.


Its not that bad at all actually. I'm about almost done. And it only took about 45 minutes to get the hang of. Id say the controls arent the big issue.

[Storm Eagle]

Now I'm a little worried, does the control suck that bad? I just hope I could adjust to it quickly when I start playing it.


Maybe it's just me. I wasn't really playing for a long time. Until I'm ready to get my own copy though, I'll see about renting a copy and play it as much as I can to get the hang of the control scheme.

See, I was having a bit of trouble with an enemy that burrows into the ground and then sneaks up on you by jumping out. I just had to remember to have Samus facing its direction when in third person mode before I went into first person mode and started firing. So when you come right down to it, I might also want to have a player's guide handy.



Don't worry that's just how he is. He sounds like he's being ass but he's not. He's just really sarcastic. Trust me, It took me a while to figure it out. Right Peanut?

Well sometimes sarcasm is easy to detect when communicating on the internet, and sometimes it isn't. Also, I just always hold my ground when I feel someone is getting excited at me. It's just what a New Yorker does.

[Peanut]

Yeah, how is it dumb when it's the plain ol' truth? A truth you yourself admitted to?

And 'decent material'? This isn't Technodrome's Got Talent, sir. We just have different views of humor, I suppose. I just made the mistake of thinking you'd get a chuckle out of it.

So....duuuumb.

[XERO]

So....duuuumb.

http://www.angelfire.com/ks2/floatingsprites/t_s2_yaw.gif

Moving on...

[Brodie]

Nice image hosting.

[Peanut]

Wow. I don't even need to say anything.

[XERO]

Yeah... okay.

[Brodie]

Do you not see that your image you posted says youre hotlinking to an angelfire site?

I.e., not showing up genius.

[Cure]

Angelfire? Might as well have linked to a geocities site.

[XERO]

Do you not see that your image you posted says youre hotlinking to an angelfire site?

I.e., not showing up genius.

I can see it, though...

Kinda weird. :ohwell:

[Spike Spiegel]

So, anyway, back on topic, I just beat Other M 100%! I was pretty satisfied with the game overall. The only thing I hated was the first-person forced view parts, but it was cool that
You get to fight Phantoon after you beat the Queen Metroid, and the Metroids scared the **** out me the first time I saw them. They really looked menacing. And the epilogue with Adam's helmet felt kind of epic. And the escape sequence with suitless Samus brought back memories of playing Zero Mission as a young lad.

I'd like to see what Nintendo can do with a sequel to this after they work out the minor issues this game had. I know people have been bitching about it all over the Web, but seriously, if they want Super Metroid, they should just play it or download it off the Virtual Console. The way the Wii's controls were applied to the mechanic of shooting missiles, I really felt like I was behind the visor, wearing the suit and charging the cannon. Other M was innovative and well-done overall, and I like the fact the you can watch the whole thing as a movie when you finish the game...

[Ninjinister]

http://wii.ign.com/articles/112/1122068p1.html

One of the many reasons I hate gaming journalism. I don't even particularly care for Metroid and I can see how stupid this is.

[ThirdMarioBro]

In Other M, I heard Samus speak for the first time, and I was devastated to find that my longtime friend wasn't the woman I thought she was. Someone who was once my favorite heroine, and an inspiration, was now a woman I wish had just kept her mouth shut.

And men wonder why women are so turned off by video games. It isn't Samus, and it isn't Metroid that is the problem. It's assholes who write sh*t like this.

This ******** is really getting tiring. So if Samus shows any personality at all, suddenly she is less of a woman? Bull-fu*king-sh*t. Metroid has had a story since the beginning. Nintendo supressed it at first, but the truth is that Metroid is the only Nintendo franchise (other than Fire Emblem) to have a continuous narrative for its entire existence. Sakamoto had a story in mind when he created Metroid back in 1986 (in Japan). This Samus is the same Samus he created all those years ago.

This author (who's name I don't even care enough to look up) basically wants Samus to be a faceless, nameless killing machine, no different than the mindless "Robocop" like entity we all assumed she was when we looked at the boxart from the original Metroid, not knowing if this bounty hunter was even a human, let alone a woman. This has to be the most shallow viewpoint on the character I have ever seen and everything that is wrong with games "journalism". It truly is a man's industry, and that's why it is so polarized now. There's man games, and family games. Metroid actually tries to be something more than "just" an action game, and it gets punished by the shallow sexist man fanboys. Its a penis thing. They just want Samus to be a woman that kills sh*t. Heaven forbid she actually have a human side.

If Samus being given a voice she always had in the mind of her creator suddenly makes her less of a hero, then this industry really will just devolve into a genre pandering mass of games about bald space marines killing mutant invaders....

Oh wait...

[愛]

I played Other M the other day, and I didn't like it. I couldn't aim at anything well, finding what the hell you were supposed to do (scanning for things to move the plot) wasn't incredibly obvious, and the voice acting was...ugh.

Sorry, Nintendo. You got some problems.

[Berserker]

finding what the hell you were supposed to do (scanning for things to move the plot) wasn't incredibly obvious

Wait a second... so there's a modern Metroid game that doesn't hold your hand and put up a ton of signposts to show you what to do or where to go next? That definitely sounds like a rarity for Nintendo. I'll have to check this out.
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[Cure]

And men wonder why women are so turned off by video games. It isn't Samus, and it isn't Metroid that is the problem. It's assholes who write sh*t like this.

This ******** is really getting tiring. So if Samus shows any personality at all, suddenly she is less of a woman? Bull-fu*king-sh*t. Metroid has had a story since the beginning. Nintendo supressed it at first, but the truth is that Metroid is the only Nintendo franchise (other than Fire Emblem) to have a continuous narrative for its entire existence. Sakamoto had a story in mind when he created Metroid back in 1986 (in Japan). This Samus is the same Samus he created all those years ago.

This author (who's name I don't even care enough to look up) basically wants Samus to be a faceless, nameless killing machine, no different than the mindless "Robocop" like entity we all assumed she was when we looked at the boxart from the original Metroid, not knowing if this bounty hunter was even a human, let alone a woman. This has to be the most shallow viewpoint on the character I have ever seen and everything that is wrong with games "journalism". It truly is a man's industry, and that's why it is so polarized now. There's man games, and family games. Metroid actually tries to be something more than "just" an action game, and it gets punished by the shallow sexist man fanboys. Its a penis thing. They just want Samus to be a woman that kills sh*t. Heaven forbid she actually have a human side.

If Samus being given a voice she always had in the mind of her creator suddenly makes her less of a hero, then this industry really will just devolve into a genre pandering mass of games about bald space marines killing mutant invaders....

Oh wait...

The author of that piece is a woman, f*cking moron. And again with the bald space marines thing? Are you stupid?

The point isn't that they gave Samus ANY personality; it's that of all the ACCEPTABLE possible personalities they could have given her, they made her an annoying bitch. Plain and simple.

[Peanut]

TMB, you really need to stop these tard rants. The more you say sh*t like that, the worse you look. Sometimes the stuff you say is x10 more ignorant than what you're complaining about.

[ThirdMarioBro]

So the 3DS won't launch in the US until March. That's SIX months away. Dammit, dammit, dammit. I was really hoping for Christmas. Probably comes down to supply issues and software completion time. Bummer.

[Cure]

Good. The holidays are enough murder on the wallet as it is.

[Barkworm]

Woah, the 3DS pricing is pretty steep.

[Melt]

It's gonna be worth it I think but I'm sure I'll end up waiting until it hits $200 or less....

[Shredder]

It's better if the 3DS isn't rushed, so I'm glad to hear they're waiting rather than pushing it for Christmas ready or not.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, all good points. It's probably for the best all around. I just enjoy those suicide Holiday rushes where everybody tramples and kills each other over stupid overpriced toys yet I always wind up on the top of the stack of bodies. I'm a total Christmas junkie -- all traditional and commercialism stuff included.

That price is insane though. I get that the technology is bleeding edge, but $300 is HIGH. Give me more time to save. The delay should also assure that Kid Icarus and Ocarina of Time 3D are there to party on day one.

Oh well. There's PLENTY of games to go around this year. Kirby, Donkey Kong Country, Goldeneye, Motorstorm: Apocalypse, blah blah blah

[The Stryker]

Goldeneye

No. No. No. No. No. Nobody honestly wants that game.

[Peanut]

Oh well. There's PLENTY of games to go around this year. Kirby, Donkey Kong Country, Goldeneye, Motorstorm: Apocalypse, blah blah blah

Way to pair down the holiday game rush as horribly as possible. Goldeneye are Motorstorm? Seriously?

Anyways, I'm day one on the 3DS, as usual. $300 isn't a ton, and there's a lot of talk that it's gonna be around $250 when it drops over on this side of the pond. I'm in for that.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, that's reasonable. I hope the launch titles stay around $35/40 because I'll probably wind up buying most of them.

[Dr. Doom]

I've had kind of an unfortuante history with handhelds. GBA I played a lot of cause I was going to college at the time and didn't drive yet. But both my DS' and my GBC never really got used enough to warrant a purchase. I pretty much only use the DS when I'm goign to the bathroom anymore.

All that being said, the 3DS look too ****ing good, and I'm angry at Nintendo for making me want it with all their shiny remakes and ports.

[Ninjinister]

Virtual Handheld is a good idea, but with our luck it'll turn out to eventually be as dismal as Virtual Console is.

I might be tempted to get a 3DS early depending on my financial situation at the time. If it's anything like it is now, though, it's a no-go.

[Turo602]

The 3DS and it's games are just so amazing. I'm really looking forward to the virtual console, we could finally get Gameboy games we missed out on. I just hope they release The Legend of Zelda Oracle games and Link's Awakening DX. I'm also looking forward to Ocarina of Time 3D, Resident Evil Revelations and Mercenaries, and so much more. It's defiantly worth the 300 bucks. I see a 3DS in my future.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I'm just looking forward to finally seeing console caliber gaming on a portable. The PSP technically should be able to take the crown for being the first portable to provide console quality portable gaming (and in many cases it did), but the controls were sh*t, the battery life was intolerable, and the UMD load times were so long that if you took the machine for a bathroom break, you were done by the time the game loaded.

Here's we've got a machine with more RAM than the Wii that can run Capcom's MT Framework engine (Resident Evil 5), true 3D that works, one of the best analog sticks I've ever felt, and no loading whatsoever courtesy high capacity cartridge memory. Super Street Fighter IV in my pocket? Hell yes.

[Peanut]

But hopefully all of that high capacity cartridge memory doesn't lead to high price games. Let us not forget the prices we paid in the 16 and 64-bit eras, gentlemen.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Christmas 1995: Yoshi's Island - Toys R' Us: $79.95 I kept the sales paper.

Christ. Just... no.


But yeah, it uses flash cartridges and a 2GB Flash stick is like the price of bubble gum. Should be no problem.

[Melt]

I usually regret buying hardware at launch because there's always a superior one right around the corner, and honestly with my backlog I have time to wait.

I purposely waited for the 80GB Playstation 3 MGS4 pack and even then the PS3 250GB slims weren't *too* far off (in my time frame)

So anyways in addition to waiting for the price to lower on the 3DS I'll wait to see what enhancements come down the line too

[Peanut]

Launch PS3's are superior for their BC as a default. All the PS3 did as it got older was lose features.

[Melt]

Launch PS3's are superior for their BC as a default. All the PS3 did as it got older was lose features.

Yeah definitely. BC wasn't a big deal to me though I just use my PS2. I just wanted the 80GB drive

[Peanut]

I'm a lot more happy playing upscaled PS2 games on my PS3 than I would be with more hard drive space I'll never use, although I really do think I'm alone where HD space is concerned. I always hear people complaining about needing more space, but I've always been fine with the default size HD's in almost everything. 360 being the one exception.

Also, less consoles cluttering up the living room = awesome. Although that will soon be a complete non-factor when I get my office converted into a game room. Then everything is getting hooked up!

[Dr. Doom]

I have thrown in a couple PS2 games recently, and I'm really wishing I had some sort of upscaling going on. Especially on an HDTV.

[Melt]

I forgot about upscaling. I did have to buy PS2 component cables because A/V cables looked horrid on my HDTV. They were 100 times better.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The PS3 always had the added feature of hard drive expandability thanks to its use of standard hardware. That was a lifesaver.


Also, less consoles cluttering up the living room = awesome. Although that will soon be a complete non-factor when I get my office converted into a game room. Then everything is getting hooked up!

I demand pics when you're done. Game rooms are like the dream space for every guy. Been working on mine forever.

[Ninjinister]

This is likely to make some of y'all cream your pants....

http://www.capcom-unity.com/jgonzo/blog/2010/10/19/professor_layton_vs_ace_attorney_announced_for_jap an

[愛]

This is likely to make some of y'all cream your pants....

http://www.capcom-unity.com/jgonzo/blog/2010/10/19/professor_layton_vs_ace_attorney_announced_for_jap an

Uhhhh.....NEED THAT SH*T!

[Peanut]

People creaming their pants over a game involving Professor Layton need to seek medical attention immediately.

[Shredder]

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/NinjaShark/Images/Games/finga_pointan2.jpg
BRING. IT. ON.

I just found out about this a few minutes ago on another site and it came as a total shock to me. I've been a huge fan of both series from the beginning, so this is like a dream come true! It looks a little more like a Professor Layton kind of universe with (fully animated!) Phoenix Wright characters, although it also seems to have a style of its own at the same time. This game looks like pure fun, especially for fans of both series- who cares about art styles matching or whatever other details. I think this totally works as a crossover. I only hope it's released in the US and that licensing isn't a problem. I can't wait for more info and to play this game! :D

Here's the official trailer (I'm off to watch it again!):
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[Barkworm]

Am I the only one who is INSANELY excited about Donkey Kong Country Returns?

[Turo602]

Am I the only one who is INSANELY excited about Donkey Kong Country Returns?

Nope!!! I want to get this game. I never really been a Kirby or Donkey Kong fan but for some reason I want to get their latest. They both look like must haves for the Wii. Especially Donkey Kong. It's co-op and reminds me of New Super Mario Bros Wii but less annoying when it comes to having a second player join you. I will end up buying this game at some point.

[Cure]

Am I the only one who is INSANELY excited about Donkey Kong Country Returns?

Nah, dawg. I'm getting it first thing Sunday morniiiiiiiiiiiiiing.

[Barkworm]

You American assholes are getting it this week?! FUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUU!!!!

[XERO]

I can't wait mahself.

[Cure]

You American assholes are getting it this week?! FUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUU!!!!

No, I meant...I'm getting it...whenever you...do...

[Peanut]

DKCR is the first Nintendo game on the Wii where I feel like the motion controls are nothing but a hindrance. Having to stop dead, hold down and then waggle the remote forcefully for a second absolutely kills the pace of the game.

Waggling for spin in Galaxy or to use the propeller in NSMB added nothing to the experience, but it also didn't detract from it. Motion controls in DKCR detract from the experience where a simple button push wouldn't.

[Barkworm]

I heard that you have to shake the Wiimote to do a roll (which really seems retarded). What are the buttons used for then?

[ThirdMarioBro]

I know, the shaking borderline breaks the game, but everything else is so damn perfect I'm just dealing with it and moving on. Stupid Wii.

[Turo602]

They got to stop with the stupid motion gimmick. Because they end up using it when it's not needed just for the hell of it being a Nintendo game. What exclusive Wii title doesn't have motion controls?

[Cure]

Smash Bros., if you don't want them.