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03-09-2005, 01:42 PM
So I guess we can throw the idea of a Sonic Adventure 3 out the window? That sucks. I'd love to play another one of those. Man, that was back when games didn't suck.

Kid Icarus
03-09-2005, 01:43 PM
I dunno... Sonic Adventure 1 was okay... 2 was okay... I don't think we really need another of them. I'd like to see Sonic Team do something new. Feel the Magic shows they've still got it in them.

ThirdMarioBro
03-09-2005, 04:28 PM
Well, I want to play the sucker before I judge it finally. Until then, no comment.

Anyways, Sonic Team does still have talent. Feel the Magic was just insane. Better than Wario Ware in some ways.

Anyways, I'm not talking about it any more til I see more. Here's something a little more interesting.

IGN is hinting at it, GCA is hinting at it, Gamespot is hinting at it. I think Iwata is gonna drop the bomb on DS noline tomarrow morning. Warp Pipe Inc has completely gone dead silent for no reason within the last few days, so I think this is it. Also, they've suddenly been advertising Metroid Hunters out of no where even though it has no solid release date for DS yet. I think they're getting ready to drop a big ass online Metroid Bomb on the PSP's launch day. Man, this is almost like an early E3.

03-09-2005, 04:32 PM
So they're going to finally unveil it, eh? Good, good. Though online gaming with a handheld doesn't interest me much, it's good to know we're heading towards the information superhighway with handhelds. I might have to get a wireless router soon because my wired router is getting pissy, so if I do get one, then getting online with the DS is no problem. There's still the problem of NOT OWNING A DS! I still can't afford one. I might even have to wait until my birthday now. Sucks.

And silly Nintendo, they have to be innovative with EVERYTHING, calling it NoLine. :lol:

Peanut
03-09-2005, 04:35 PM
I still don't see the online stuff being worth very much. It'll be good if it does come out, but I don't see many people taking advantage of it. The DS online thing isn't such a big deal now anyways, especially with Sony touting PSP being online ready right out of the gate.

ThirdMarioBro
03-09-2005, 04:40 PM
See, the PSP is going to launch with an online service, but it plays out like the PS2 service and has users paying onthly fees. That, and Sony's network pales to Xbox Live. Nintendo is going for a free network, and here's how I think it's going to happen (hopefully last day to speculate, so here goes)

My guess is that online software will be released on GBA carts. The things can hold about 40 Megs, and the DS has proven countless times that it can access both bays at the same time. Soo, they release the software. You put it in the GBA bay, put the DS game in slot 1, the game runs through the Wi-Fi, and you can save lists of coontacts and such to the GBA cart. I suppose you would connect in a P2P sort of way and each unit could be tracked by it's IP address or something similar. The units already have you input a username when you boot up the first time, so there's your username info already placed in for online Pictochat talking. You could save contacts onto the GBA cart and basically each DS would act as it's own server or such. It could work, or they could do something completely different.

Now, if they wanted to go the server route, they could use people's "My Nintendo" accounts, but I don't think they'd go that route because that would lean twords monthly fees again.

*edit*

Yeah Peanut, the PSP is online build in, but it comes with fees. DS's online kit would have to be purchased, but then it'd be free from there on out. It kind of balances out.

03-09-2005, 04:44 PM
I don't remember PS2 online games having monthly fees, unless you're talking about ridiculous games like Everquest: Online Adventures and Final Fantasy XI. Did they even mention PSP's online service having monthly fees? I don't keep up with PSP stuff, really.

ThirdMarioBro
03-09-2005, 04:48 PM
Well, the thing that is making DS online such a big deal for Nintendo fans is that Nintendo has shunned online for so many games that would've pwned with it enabled (Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Star Fox, Metroid Prime 2, F-Zero blah blah). Here we finally get a system that can run all of those and run them on Wi-Fi. If Nintendo didn't release online software, they know someone would eventually just tunnle it, so they're doing it.

We finally get to play all those Nintendo titles online. That's what makes it a big deal.

Peanut
03-09-2005, 05:01 PM
There's one Nintendo game I would play online. A Pokemon MMORPG, but even then I probably wouldn't get it. Getting a wireless router or going to a Starbucks is out of the question.

03-09-2005, 05:02 PM
Wireless routers are getting cheaper, though. I can't be totally sure about that, but from what I heard, they are. For a Pokemon MMORPG that I can play for free, I'd shell out $50 or whatever for one.

Shadow Wolf75
03-09-2005, 08:23 PM
I dunno, I'll be glad they're doing SOMETHING with the DS as opposed to just letting it sit there with a still rather stagnant software library. Ugh, what the hell is taking them so long to release more games for this wonderful little system? Heck, I'd be happy with a release date for that 'Another' game I keep seeing about.

ThirdMarioBro
03-09-2005, 08:25 PM
They released it early because they could. They're saving the good stuff for PSP launch case and point : Metroid Hunters supposed suprise release

Shadow Wolf75
03-09-2005, 08:41 PM
Yeah, that'll be great if it drops right on PSP's launch date. I have bought Sony hardware due to my fondness for RPGs, but that doesn't mean I really like Sony or their business practices.

Spitfire
03-09-2005, 09:31 PM
Look at my pretty DS. Look at it shine yay
http://img194.exs.cx/img194/9686/ds3vy.jpg

ThirdMarioBro
03-09-2005, 11:48 PM
SCORE!!!

How's Mr. Driller man?

Welcome to the DS club :)

03-09-2005, 11:54 PM
I'm going to kill myself if I don't get a DS within the next few months. :cry:

ThirdMarioBro
03-10-2005, 12:01 AM
Don't worry man. You get one soon enough. :)

Mecha Cow
03-10-2005, 12:07 AM
I'm picking up mine tomorrow.

Finally I'll be cool.

Barkworm
03-10-2005, 12:46 AM
ME TOO, ME TOO!!!!! MWAHAHAHAHA!
I'll only pick up one game though, which will be 99% WarioWare.

Peanut
03-10-2005, 01:26 AM
WOWOW!

http://cube.ign.com/articles/594/594834p1.html

It isn't even E3 and good ol' Reggie is already dropping some awesome stuff on our heads! A TRUE Pokemon RPG for the Cube, Mario 128 news, more on the DS "noline" functions! I love Reggie.

ThirdMarioBro
03-10-2005, 01:44 AM
Holy Sh*t, and it isn't even speech day yet. I'll just say this..

FU*KING YES!!!!!!!!!!

REGGIE
REGGIE
REGGIE!!!!!!!!!!

IGNcube: Some of the specs for Microsoft's Xbox successor were recently announced. Will Revolution be technically on par with Microsoft's system?

Reggie: Quite frankly, we'll share more of our technical specs at E3. That said, we believe a stronger CPU and a great graphics card is just the price of entry. For us, it's all about driving innovation. It's all about driving an intuitive system. It's all about creating a system that invites both the core gamer and the casual gamer to play. We think that's what's more important than what the specs are.

IGNcube: Rumor has it that DS will be going online soon. Why does Nintendo believe in an online model for DS, but not for GameCube?

Reggie: As I said during the E3 briefing last year, for DS it's not about online, but "no line," it's about wireless interactive play. And we're committed to wireless interactive play for DS. Mr. Iwata will have some information about that in his keynote speech. In terms of GameCube, I think in fairness we at Nintendo haven't done a great job of providing the Internet capability tools to our developers to create games for GameCube. We need to address that for all of our future systems and we're doing that. In terms of Revolution and its wireless capability, stay tuned -- more to come. We are absolutely committed to the sense of community and the worldwide sense of playing games against each other. We're going to be delivering that on every future system to the best of our ability.

IGNcube: Microsoft and Sony have development kits out there for their next-gen systems. Are Revolution dev kits coming?

Reggie: Yes, they're on their way. We're hard at work providing pre-development tools to key licensees. And again, Mr. Iwata will be talking at length tomorrow at his keynote about our vision for Revolution. Are dev kits going to be on the way? Absolutely. Are dev kits going to be out on the marketplace with enough time to impact great development of software for Revolution? Absolutely. We are right on track for development of Revolution and that's a key message out there. We're not going to be late to the marketplace. We're going to be on time with our competition, which we've pegged as Sony. And certainly getting development kits out there in a reasonable fashion is a big part of making that happen.

Reggie: About DS wireless Internet play. Yes, we're going to be making announcements about that tomorrow. And there's going to be a lot of activity that we'll be sharing now through E3 and to the end of this year. We'll be launching wireless enabled games on DS this year. Could that framework be compatible with Revolution? Certainly it could. We'll be talking more about that, again both tomorrow and at E3. But it's very important for your community out there to understand that we see the potential for Internet play for all of our platforms to be a huge opportunity and something that we're going to be driving very aggressively.

IGNcube: Finally, what is Pokemon XD?

Reggie: Pokemon XD is a brand new Pokemon game for GameCube. It's a true RPG Pokemon. It's isn't a sequel to Collosseum. It's a brand new build. A brand new game that really plays off the RPG aspects. So think of it this way. If you loved Ruby and Sapphire, you're going to love Pokemon XD for GameCube.

____________________

MY GOD I LOVE THIS MAN!!!

Seriously, he's the only Nintendo Rep who dosen't talk double talk bullsh*t. I LOVE him.

WE'RE GETTING A REAL POKEMON RPG IN 3D!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And they're calling it Pokemon XD of all things. How quaint. :lol: :lol:

We're going to see Mario 128 at E3 FINALLY. No more bullsh*t. The game we've wanted since 1998 is coming. Zelda is solidified.

Peanut
03-10-2005, 01:57 AM
I just can't believe Nintendo is already talking about this stuff. Microsoft as well. It seems like they're determined not to let Sony just walk away with the new generation like they did in this current one.

ThirdMarioBro
03-10-2005, 02:06 AM
It's about damn time. They're not going to tell us much about Revolution tomarrow, but they're going to tell enough to drive us insane for E3. DS is coming tomarrow, I'm sure of it. I'm hoping for a Metroid Hunters suprise release as well on PSP launch day.

Hell, Reggie just said enough to renew my faith. We are gonna kick ass.

I've got my Wireless router and I'll be getting the cable hooked up next week. Give me NINTENDO NO-LINE BABY!

Peanut
03-10-2005, 02:09 AM
Man, E3 will not come soon enough. I thought waiting was bad before, now with all this news...just the recent hype surrounding the consoles, upcoming games...damn...this is going to be a looooooooong couple of months.

ThirdMarioBro
03-10-2005, 02:18 AM
Probobly the longest we've ever suffered through. My God it will be worth it though. This is the big one.

*pounds bongos to kill time*

GK Punk
03-10-2005, 02:40 AM
I'm going to look forward to that Pokemon game, that should be awesome.

And with all this news coming out, if they announce a new Metroid game at E3, I might Die of Happiness.

Mecha Cow
03-10-2005, 05:22 AM
About damn time we got a 3D Pokemon RPG. This is great news.

Pokemon XD is an odd name though. :lol:

Spitfire
03-10-2005, 08:13 AM
SCORE!!!

How's Mr. Driller man?

Welcome to the DS club :)
It's great, I played my friends before I bought it and loved it. The only thing I dont like is Namco took out a level and a secert character for the US release. It was a bunny named Usagi. He's cool looking but I decided not to pay 50 bucks to import the game when I can get it for 30 normally
I want to get Poke'mon Dash next since it uses the touch screen and my friend is getting so we can race

03-10-2005, 08:49 AM
It's about damn time we get a 3D Pokemon RPG! XD? That's an emoticon. :lol: This is some damn good stuff. Reggie always delivers with some information that kicks you in the face and keeps getting sweeter.

ThirdMarioBro
03-10-2005, 10:29 AM
It is a common known fact that Nintendo of Europe is run by f*cking morons. It's why they're pretty much dead in the UK. Game Boy is strguuling, Gamecube is defunct, and now after what they've done to DS launch......Well, I think they're committed the final crime against humanity. NOE must be destroyed NOW.

http://ds.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=1692&pg=1&comments=full#comments

Prepare to have your eyes rotted out of your head. I just want to blow up their fu*king office. NOE must die.

Mecha Cow
03-10-2005, 10:42 AM
What the f*ck.

Let's hope that thing stays in the UK.

And yes, NoE is suckish. They've been getting a lot better lately, but us Europeans still tend to get screwed a lot.

Dinny
03-10-2005, 10:51 AM
Yeah but you don't get that, that bear and the show he's from is incredibly popular in the UK. It's not a kids' show, it's a satirical show shown at around 10:30 at night. Getting the people from Bo' Selecta to represent the DS is a good move on the part of NOE, they're trying to get the older gamer interested, to sway the audience the PSP is aiming at.

Barkworm
03-10-2005, 11:35 AM
Plus the PR campaign for the DS in Europe is probably the most gigantic one I've ever seen. The DS is everywhere. Last Saturday we even had a "DS day" at our local mall. They had at least 50 playable units there and everyone got free stickers and other crap. Allow me to say that NoE is doing a more than EXCELLENT job for the DS launch.

Mecha Cow
03-10-2005, 11:40 AM
Really? O_o

We haven't had anything like that. Supposedly there's a DS tour going around here, but it's not coming to my town until like April, and by then I'll already have a DS. >_<

I guess the bear thing is justified...but it's still scary as hell.

ThirdMarioBro
03-10-2005, 11:55 AM
Okay, I guess that justified the bear, but still......yuck. Chock it up to European tastes I guess. *runs like hell*

*edit*

Iwata's spech is going on now. GCA's got two guys there filming the whole thing and we'll have it up for download as well as transcribed by this afternoon.

03-10-2005, 12:06 PM
Excellent. Post the link as soon as you can. I'll be refreshing every few minutes to check.

Dinny
03-10-2005, 12:13 PM
I sure hope Iwata isn't going to avoid answering the questions everybody wants to know, or avoid the big topics such as Revolution like he always does, that's why I love Reggie so much, that guy will give an honest answer to everything.

ThirdMarioBro
03-10-2005, 12:15 PM
Yeah, I do too. Reggie ownz, but I'm pretty sure we're going to get something today.

Dinny
03-10-2005, 12:24 PM
But how much more are we gonna learn about the Revolution? Probably just more of the same "The days of graphical power are over" stuff. Still, if they give me some good info on the DS no line or Prime: HUnters, I'll be happy.

ThirdMarioBro
03-10-2005, 12:27 PM
I'm pretty sure we're not getting squat on Rev. That'll be E3. Today is all about the DS's online stuff, and they HAVE to do it now because Sony has dropped their online plans and it isn't looking good (it's free). Nintendo has got to put on a show now or else, and we're going to get one.

*waits miserably for Robert to report from show floor with the info*

03-10-2005, 12:27 PM
I doubt we'll learn much more about Revolution, but some hints may be dropped. Everything will be unveiled at E3, as it is always expressed in every interview.

Mecha Cow
03-10-2005, 12:55 PM
Gamespot has the new Zelda trailer, it's very cool, go check it out.

03-10-2005, 12:59 PM
The new Zelda game looks so amazing, it's not even funny. They are pushing the graphics to the LIMIT. I so can't wait.

ThirdMarioBro
03-10-2005, 01:01 PM
Okay, this I gotta see...

ThirdMarioBro
03-10-2005, 01:04 PM
Okay, GCA's server crashed (typical when we need it). I'll stealk this from Gamespot.
_________________________
After walking on stage, Iwata briefly talked about his game in background in game development. Then he whet loyal Cubers' appetites by showing a trailer for the forthcoming, still-untitled Legend of Zelda. The trailer (viewable here) showed new, grittier version of series hero Link engaging in a series of Lord of the Rings-like adventures, including battling orc-like creatures and visiting a cave full of ghostly warriors.

After the lights came back up, Iwata announced that, four months after its release, the DS is going online. Starting later this year, Nintendo "will provide users with a link to other players across the country or around the world," according to a statement from Nintendo. DS owners will be able to connect to Nintendo's online service, which will be free, from any wireless hotspot using the DS's wireless connectivity, and play other owners of the dual-screen portable online.

As further icing on the DS cake, Iwata also revealed that Nintendo is developing a new Animal Crossing title specifically tailored for online play. He also showed off the DS's offline Wi-Fi capabilities in a "spontaneous" eight-player Mario Kart DS game. Iwata also updated the audience on the DS's sales figures to date--over 4 million to date.

Last but certainly not least, the at-times controversial executive gave the world the first information on Nintendo's next-generation console, code-named Revolution. Confirming earlier rumors, Iwata said the device would have built-in wi-fi connectivity, "which will allow users around the world to connect with one another wirelessly." While he carefully avoided the word "online," Iwata implied that Nintendo will apparently reverse its long-standing policy of abstaining from online gaming with its forthcoming machine, saying it would have the sort same wi-fi functions as the soon-to-be-online DS.

Iwata also let the audience peer into the guts of the Revolution, which he more elegantly referred to as the device's "technological heart." Like the next Xbox, it will be powered by a custom central processor from IBM, in this case code-named "Broadway." It will also sport a graphics card--code-named "Hollywood--from ATI, which is also making the GPU for the next Xbox. “We’re excited to be developing the graphics chip set for Revolution, which continues our longstanding relationship with Nintendo,” said ATI president and CEO in a statement.
__________________

No info MY ASS! MY GOD!

WE'RE GOING ONLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thank you God

Dinny
03-10-2005, 01:24 PM
YES!!! That is great news for everyone (except Microsoft and Sony) and an online Animal Crossing game is gonna be amazing. I can't wait to customise my Animal Crossing T-shirt with the stylus. Nintendo has come out fighting.

By the way, does anyone have a link for the new Zelda video that is not on Gamespot, that site always freezes my computer.

Peanut
03-10-2005, 01:28 PM
That new Zelda trailer is off the hook. Damn, this is going to be the greatest game of this generation!

ThirdMarioBro
03-10-2005, 01:39 PM
YES!!! That is great news for everyone (except Microsoft and Sony) and an online Animal Crossing game is gonna be amazing. I can't wait to customise my Animal Crossing T-shirt with the stylus. Nintendo has come out fighting.

By the way, does anyone have a link for the new Zelda video that is not on Gamespot, that site always freezes my computer.

Just wait a while. GCA's server died and we're working to fix it. We'll have all the videos up tonight.

Mecha Cow
03-10-2005, 01:47 PM
That new Zelda trailer reminds me of the Oddworld games for some reason.

ThirdMarioBro
03-10-2005, 02:12 PM
I just saw that trailer and OMFG!

That Goron, the boar, Z-Targeting, the combat system, the fighting, water effects, and if that's the in game music, then

OMFG2X!!!!

Honestly folks, were looking at the newest suscessor for greatest game of all time. Extended trailer my ass, that sucker was brand new. I'd kill to play that thing now.

Barkworm
03-10-2005, 02:57 PM
For some reason that trailer didn't impress me as much as the last one. I'd really like to know what the game's theme is going to be.

ThirdMarioBro
03-10-2005, 02:59 PM
It impressed me to the point that I forgot to eat breakfast. I am in awe. That, and now I know it's in the Ocarina timeline and not Wind Waker's.

Barkworm
03-10-2005, 03:05 PM
Errr... Both WW and OoT are in the same timeline, aren't they?

Peanut
03-10-2005, 03:05 PM
Didn't someone say it takes place after Wind Waker?

Barkworm
03-10-2005, 03:07 PM
I think so too.

03-10-2005, 03:10 PM
Yeah, I read it took place after Wind Waker. Like Peanut mentioned during a conversation on MSN, it'll probably take place on a much larger island. Either that, or somehow the water disappears.

Barkworm
03-10-2005, 03:14 PM
Wait a sec. When we're talking about "timeline", what exactly do we mean? Was TMB trying to say that OoT and the new Zelda have the same Link?

03-10-2005, 03:16 PM
I don't think that's possible. The OoT Link died sometime in between Majora's Mask and Wind Waker. If the new Zelda does indeed take place after Wind Waker, then it can't be the same Link.

Peanut
03-10-2005, 03:17 PM
That seems like only something he can clarify. I guess we'll have to wait for him to explain it to us. I'm almost 100% sure I read that this new game takes place after Wind Waker.

ThirdMarioBro
03-10-2005, 03:17 PM
I dont know anymore the timeline is so messed up. Dosent matter anyways I guess.

Dinny
03-10-2005, 03:21 PM
I heard that while it was set after the Wind Waker, it is NOT part of the WW timeline, i.e. it is not Wind Waker 2, but a story that is completely different. So when they say it takes place after WW, they mean it's adult Link.

Mecha Cow
03-10-2005, 03:21 PM
It was said this new game would be set chronologically after WW (So that rules out an OoT/MM sequel...Yay!). That doesn't mean it'll be a direct sequel though, it could take place hundreds of years after WW for all we know.

Dinny
03-10-2005, 03:23 PM
^^ beat ya to it :P

Mecha Cow
03-10-2005, 03:33 PM
I fail at life. :cry:

*Watches Zelda trailer again*

03-10-2005, 03:35 PM
I fail at life, too. :cry:

*goes to eat pizza*

Peanut
03-10-2005, 06:06 PM
That episode of "On The Spot" on Gamespot was pretty good. They had some stuff from Nintendo's GDC keynote. Lots of interesting stuff there. I loved when Iwata went "I'm Mario!" while him and 7 other people played a game of Mario Kart DS. Very cool. That weird ass fish game was pretty awesome too. Animal Crossing DS looked pretty good too, along with Nintendogs, apparently the crowd loved that game. Plus that crazy ass voice of Mario! That was INSANE!

03-10-2005, 06:11 PM
I watched it along with Peanut, and I have to agree that the DS games they showed looked really interesting. Iwata is a ridiculous man. That "I'm Mario!" comment cracked me the hell up. I urge everyone to watch On the Spot every Thursday.

ThirdMarioBro
03-10-2005, 07:25 PM
What Mario Voice are you talking about?

Anyways.....

Best. Quote. Ever.

GDC: Revolution Will Be ''Sexy''

March 10, 2005

by: Matt Saunderson

Reggie said it, and we don't think he's lying.
Nintendo executive Reggie Fils-Aime recently spoke about Nintendo pushing the envelope in making sure all their products look sexy. "SP is a sexy device. DS is a sexy device," Fils-Aime told 1Up.

While Reggie admitted that the GameCube was not a sexy device, he did say that Revolution would be a very sexy device. "...You know what? We're smart people, we learn from our mistakes. I will bet you a drink at the bar of your choice, that Revolution will be a very sexy device," Fils-Aime said.


Honestly, I just love the sound of that.

Demented Utrom
03-10-2005, 07:49 PM
One of the midbosses for the new Zelda game is a baboon with a boomerang.This would be a good laugh.For a mid boss fight.The next Zelda looks pretty decent.I think.

ThirdMarioBro
03-10-2005, 07:54 PM
Pretty Decent is anunderstatement IMO.

It's going to own my soul.

03-10-2005, 09:17 PM
I just finished reading Iwata's Keynote Transcript, and I was really impressed with the way he gave his speech. The admittal of the gamer in his heart, the way he could understand how gamers feel and what they want out of games, just the whole speech left me feeling good inside. I watched a clip during the GameSpot On the Spot broadcast of Iwata's keynote speech, and he has a really heavy accent. It was kind of hard to understand him at times, but hey...he is kind of Japanese. :lol:

All in all, a truly wonderful speech. I'm really excited about Revolution. Since it's backwards compatible, I can break my Gamecube with my own "stress tests." :evilgrin:

Peanut
03-10-2005, 11:40 PM
There's a pretty interesting interview with Reggie on Penny-Arcade. It's on the front page. They asked him some pretty good questions.

ThirdMarioBro
03-11-2005, 01:01 AM
*watches full recording of Iwata speech*

Yep, it really was well done. Left me feeling good inside. Just like NIntendo. Very well done of them to speak to gamers like that.

03-11-2005, 01:02 AM
So where's the full video? Peanut and I have been waiting all night.

Peanut
03-11-2005, 01:02 AM
Yeah! The porno can only keep me satisfied for so long you know!

ThirdMarioBro
03-11-2005, 01:06 AM
Ah hell, sorry about that. They got the whole thing filmed/encoded and junk, but we're having all sorts of hell with the server today. It crashed and keeps going down and up at random. We gotta fix that before we start hammering it with the video. I'll let you know when it's fixed, and post a link when ever it's ready, but you may as well go to bed for tonight.

------

Here's something funny...

GDC: More Competition For Nintendo

March 10, 2005

by: Matt Saunderson

Nintendo doesn't just have the PSP to worry about. Nokia's making a new version of the N-Gage QD.
Nokia today announced that it will be launcing a new version of the N-Gage QD within the next few months. The new version will help Nokia company compete with Sony's PSP and Nintendo's GBA and DS.

Nokia's new N-Gage QD will feature a new look, new colors, and different feel. The new N-Gage QD will and will run on the CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access) wireless network.

Yeah, N-Gage, the taco that toppled Game Boy :lol: :lol:

Barkworm
03-11-2005, 01:10 AM
So... people actually buy that thing?!

03-11-2005, 01:11 AM
Yeah, that article caught my eye earlier. I started laughing because I saw N-Gage in the description. What a joke.

Well, if you don't have the video up by tomorrow morning, Peanut said he's confident in Gamespot having it up by then, so it's all good.

Barkworm
03-11-2005, 01:13 AM
IGN has it already, I'm downloading right now (about 300 MB).

Peanut
03-11-2005, 01:13 AM
Gamespot will totally have a stream up by tomorrow.

And me and Ai go to bed? I think not!

03-11-2005, 01:16 AM
Thanks for the info, Barkworm. Now I'm not going to bed until I watch this. :D

ThirdMarioBro
03-11-2005, 01:21 AM
Ah, good. I'm glad you guys found it :)

Kicks ass dosen't it :)

Iwata is just so somber in his power that it seems...so...true... Also, does that little smash brothers story he told hold any forshadowing for E3? I think it does.

Barkworm
03-11-2005, 01:27 AM
I'll go buy the DS. Later! :D

ThirdMarioBro
03-11-2005, 01:57 AM
Hot Damn, another one into the fray. Enjoy man!


About Iwata, it's so nice to have a President who is actually a gamer. Something Yamauchi never was. Kinda leaves a warm feeling. :)

03-11-2005, 02:18 AM
Iwata is a wonderful man, and he does have his priorities straight, and where he's leading his company. It's definitely good to know he's a gamer at heart, and has the proper frame of mind when developing new ideas.

Mecha Cow
03-11-2005, 07:59 AM
Got my DS today, and Reggie was right, it is indeed a sexy machine. It's a little wide though. I have little girly hands, so I have a bit of trouble reaching the shoulder buttons or the touch screen.

Speaking of the touch screen, using it as a joystick is definately not for me. x_X Confused the hell outta me in SM64DS (And in Metroid). It's ok though, I didn't notice any problems while using the D-Pad.

The game is a lot of fun so far, one of my favorite games that I haven't played in years, and it's great to see it run on a handheld. That and the minigames are awesome. Can't wait for some new games.

ThirdMarioBro
03-11-2005, 12:39 PM
Mario 64 is like your warm up game. It teaches you the ropes in a familiar world, and eases you into the workings of the system. And yes, the mini games are a blast. Using the stylus for walking isn't a good idea. Try to get used to the thumb strap. If you learn to adjust, you can beat the whole game like that, but it dosen't really matter. The D-Pad will get the job done fine though. t's just easier to learn how to use it with you game you know. Then again, Wario Ware teaches you pretty well. Bah, I dunno. However you see fit :)

Peanut
03-11-2005, 01:20 PM
Yeah, it shouldn't take you long to get used to the thumbstrap control. It's really easy once you get used to it, although it's still kinda unpolished in SM64. Sometimes you'll find your thumb at the top of the screen and need to move it down into the middle again. The newer platformers, like Rayman DS, will have that fixed though.

Mecha Cow
03-11-2005, 02:57 PM
I tried using the thumb strap, but my hands are too small, I can't center my thumb on the screen. But hey, like I said, D-Pad works for me. Since you can switch between running and walking I have no problems with it, and I can always use the stylus for when I need precision control.

How many stars do I need to unlock Mario?

Peanut
03-11-2005, 03:06 PM
It actually isn't an amount of stars really. You have to the find painting of the characters in the castle then defeat the level and the boss. Mario's painting is in a small room behind the Rec Room. I think you need like 5 stars or something to open that door.

Dinny
03-11-2005, 03:18 PM
Yeah, Mario and Luigi's paintings were pretty easy to find, but Wario's took some thinking.

Just saw the new Zelda video. Wow. The Goron looks amazing, and was that glowing thing towards the end of the vid. a new, improved floormaster? And were all those ghosts Re-deads? Judging by the howling of the wolf at the end of the vid., my guess is that this game will have something to do with the wolves.
Perhaps it will be called, Legend of Zelda: *insert something cool about wolves here* (If I'm right, I want you all to remember me saying this ;) )

JameO
03-11-2005, 04:16 PM
Yeah you don't need a certain amount to unlock the characters, just to get in the area. And yeah you need 8 stars to get into the door in the Rec Room and then go through the Mario painting and finish the stage. The character stages are so much fun.

ThirdMarioBro
03-11-2005, 06:08 PM
Any stage that's new and has Mario running around is fun :D

Kid Icarus
03-11-2005, 06:45 PM
Wow. What a GREAT time for my Moniter to DIE. -_-.

Thanks to friends with a techie dad though, I've got a new(ish) moniter. Yay.


I need to watch the Zelda movie... after work. And catch up on stuff.

ThirdMarioBro
03-11-2005, 08:57 PM
You're getting a Pokemon, and it's 3D, and it's not a freaking stadium title!

*dances around*

*edit*

Well, so much for Nintendo getting any hype at E3.

GCA recently had the oppurtunity to talk to Reggie Fils-Aime at GDC yesterday. The popular NOA figure discusses more of their E3 plans.

AMN News Team Leader Ray Almeda had the recent oppurtunity to ask Reggie Fils-Aime, Nintendo's Vice President of Sales & Marketing, for a straight answer whether or not the Revolution would be playable or consumer-demoed at E3:

"We'll have more details there. But as for playing it at E3, not a chance. It's still way too early."




F*ck that. At least he told us stright so we wouldn't get our hopes up. That helps a lot. Reggie, the only honest NIntendo Rep.

Well, now they really gotta put it out. PS3 and Xbox 2 will definately be playable, and Revolution isn't. Typical Nintendo. This thing better be PRETTY DAMN DIFFERENT or else they're gonna get ignored in favor of the "OMG PS3 GPAPFICZ!1!1!"

It better be Fu*king huge for me to drive 800 miles to not play it. They better f*cking floor me (if I'm right on what it is, then they will).

Read this

http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=4532&pg=1&comments=

Kid Icarus
03-11-2005, 11:05 PM
Linkage? O_O

So much to catch up on...

ThirdMarioBro
03-11-2005, 11:39 PM
Coming up...

http://cube.ign.com/articles/594/594757p1.html

It was originally dropped here.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/594/594834p1.html

Currently known as Pokemon XD, it will be the world's first full 3D adventure RPG on Gamecube this year. They finally did it. Mario, Zelda, Kirby, Metroid, and now Pokemon. One hell of a year.

Kid Icarus
03-11-2005, 11:55 PM
Of that list, I'll be getting:
Killer 7
DK JB
DKA2
Geist
Nintendo Pennant Chase Baseball
Pokemon XD
LoZ

and that's it. Maybe that Animaniacs game, 'cause they rock hard core.


Oh, and in other news, EA's changed their over time policy to be more fair to their workers. Guess they decided it was better to make their company look good then to make more money. So, now, I'll pry be picking up NBA Street 3.

in other breaking news, I beat Super Mario World for the FIRST TIME EVER today. Yes, yes, me and regular Mario whopped on Bowsers ass, saved the princess, and started World A where the sight of those hardshelled beetles make me turn the game off. :-0

Barkworm
03-12-2005, 12:26 AM
Instead of playing with my brandnew DS (weeeee!!!) I did something stupid yesterday: I went out with a couple of non-geek friends and drank too much Whiskey. Now my head aches and I can't play it...
I hope you people still love me... :(

Kid Icarus
03-12-2005, 12:31 AM
Hey, at least you have one :D. The first step to becoming an addict to your DS is to touch it. Touch it in the morning, in the evening... hell, even at supper time! Touch it in the shower, touch it in your bed. Just touch that sumabitch, and soon you'll be one of us!

Kid Icarus
03-12-2005, 12:40 AM
I dont know anymore the timeline is so messed up. Dosent matter anyways I guess.
LOZ:ALTTP - LOZ - Z2:TAOL - LOZ:LA - LOZ:TOoT - LOZ:OoA/OoS - LOZ:MM - LOZ:TWW- LOZGC.

At least that's my understanding of the time line. Wind Waker and TOoT are really the only games, other then Zelda and Zelda 2, that have any kind of time line. The new game is confirmed to take place after Wind Waker. My guess is it's the same Link. They've found a new place to build a kingdom, and that's where the world is. But somehow Ganon get's all un-stoned, hehe, and goes beserk... if he's even in the game.

The trailer was damn near orgasmic. Now THAT is realism. Everything was moving and acting how it should, shadows were being cast right, light was effecting things properly, and the draw distances! I can't wait to play this game... Or at least have TMB play it at E3 and let us know just how freaking amazing it is.

That Matt Guy
03-12-2005, 01:31 AM
WOOooOooOOoOooOOooOooo!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62054&item=8176591365&rd=1

ThirdMarioBro
03-12-2005, 01:41 AM
Sir, I quite honestly believe that is the most f***ed up and downright entertaining story I have ever read.

Actually, when I was 3, I thought my cousin's NES was haunted, but that was just the screeching noise it made when frozen sounded like it was saying something. FZZZZZCHCHCHRRRKKKKK YRRRRUZZZZZZZ.

Something like that. Still, that is second most rediculious auction I've ever seen.

Mecha Cow
03-12-2005, 05:43 AM
Some new Zelda artwork and a downloadable Hi-Res trailer (http://gallery.zeldalegends.net/index.php?cat=86).

Peanut
03-12-2005, 11:42 AM
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat has been reviewed on IGN.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/595/595520p1.html?fromint=1

Demented Utrom
03-12-2005, 12:09 PM
The faulty nes got full of dust.No wonder it does not work properly anymore.The guy wrecked the chip connecter.

On to Zelda I think it has been worked for 2 years.Hopefully it's not glichy this time.Teen link from Windwaker I guess.

Peanut
03-12-2005, 12:19 PM
Glitchy? Since when has a Zelda game been glitchy?

Barkworm
03-12-2005, 12:30 PM
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat has been reviewed on IGN.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/595/595520p1.html?fromint=1
That was a pretty good review. Gamespot's on the other hand is utter sh*t. There's no way in hell Jungle Beat is only a 7.0.

Peanut
03-12-2005, 12:43 PM
Well what do you expect? That fat idiot Jeff Gerstmann reviewed it. He's a piece of crap. I don't listen to anything he has to say about anything. He's also the moron who gave WarioWare Touched a 7.2. I hate him.

Demented Utrom
03-12-2005, 12:45 PM
Zelda Oot was glitchy.I remember at the end when your sword gets knocked off by ganon.If you save without using the sword.Riding Epona you could use the hookshot well on horseback.That's the glitch.24 bottle one was another.

Peanut
03-12-2005, 12:48 PM
Little glitches are unavoidable, no matter how much bug testing you do. Did those really subtract from gameplay? Did they cause you to die or have to start your game over again? I don't see how those types of glitches are a problem.

Mecha Cow
03-12-2005, 12:53 PM
Ocarina of Time had a few minor glitches that were hardly even noticable. No Zelda game has ever been glitchy.

What does OoT even have to do with anything in this thread anyway?

Barkworm
03-12-2005, 12:55 PM
Well what do you expect? That fat idiot Jeff Gerstmann reviewed it. He's a piece of crap. I don't listen to anything he has to say about anything. He's also the moron who gave WarioWare Touched a 7.2. I hate him.
What really makes me mad about that review is that Gerstmann obviously didn't get what the game is about. Sure, I didn't die once but that's not the point of the game! IGN covered that pretty well. I disagree with what they said about the controls though, they're not just a gimmick.

Peanut
03-12-2005, 01:00 PM
Exactly. I like Gamespot quite a bit, but I really don't like him. He never seems to look past anything. He only seems to see what's right in his face. I wish Greg reviewed everything.

And Mecha Cow, OoT has nothing to do with what's going on here. Shredder Utrom just likes to post nonsense.

Barkworm
03-12-2005, 01:14 PM
BTW, the DS is pure awesomeness. I love every little bit about it. I have no idea how people could find it bulky or too heavy.

Mecha Cow
03-12-2005, 01:16 PM
And Mecha Cow, OoT has nothing to do with what's going on here. Shredder Utrom just likes to post nonsense.

Figured. Somebody get that guy another warning, please.

Anyway, Yoshi's Touch & Go got an 8.8 on IGN and a 7.2 on Gamespot. I haven't heard that much about the game, but it looks kind of fun, I might consider picking it up.

Peanut
03-12-2005, 01:19 PM
It seems like Gamespot is totally against the DS. All of the bigger games are only getting decent scores.

Mecha Cow
03-12-2005, 02:29 PM
Yeah, it's weird. Maybe they don't want to take the time to appreciate something new.

Ah well, I don't read reviews for the scores anyway, I read them for the info.

Kid Icarus
03-13-2005, 12:04 AM
Zelda Oot was glitchy.I remember at the end when your sword gets knocked off by ganon.If you save without using the sword.Riding Epona you could use the hookshot well on horseback.That's the glitch.24 bottle one was another.
Have you ever programed? I doubt it...

Until you do, don't complain about glitches like that. You want a big glitch? Try that Viewtiful Joe 2 demo for the PS2. Wipes your memory card clean. Now THAT is a hefty glitch.

Barkworm - Totally. The DS is one of the lightest handhelds I've owned. I'm so used to holding it with my left hand now that it's not a big deal what so ever. Glad you like it :).

And, props to Nintendo. One of the 2 games for the DS that NEED to be online are. I can't wait to visit some of your guys Animal Crossing DS villages :D. Speaking of AC... I'm hooked again. In those 2 days my moniter pooped out, I deweeded 13 months of weeds in the village, planted trees, redesigned my second floor, added a painting to the museum, and got another villager. r0xx0rz.

Barkworm
03-13-2005, 12:52 AM
But how exactly will the Wi-Fi work? I won't be able to just go online at my place or will I? Will I?!

Kid Icarus
03-13-2005, 12:58 AM
Do you have a $30 802.11b/g router? If not, go get one. Or wait a little longer for prices to drop, or sales, or something. check ebay too...

For less then the cost of X-Box Live (as fantastic as I hear that service is), you can get your DS online and never have to pay for any online Nintendo games EVER. That seems like a damn fine deal to me, especially if they give us some sort of interface (mynintendo accounts, perhaps?).

03-13-2005, 01:51 AM
I kind of see the Nintendo DS online service working like the Socom online service, if anyone knows what that looks like. I know we have Sony haters here. A friends list would be nice, storing their IP address, and that would probably end up being free as well, since AIM keeps your buddy list on the server for free. It's weird, though. Will we be able to play with Europeans, too? Their wireless standards are different, aren't they? It's been a while since I opened my Cisco book.

Demented Utrom
03-13-2005, 01:58 AM
To bad reviewers who cares what the reviewers think.People will buy the game anyway if they like it.

Off topic Zelda oot glitches 300 and counting for one game.Every single Zelda has a glitch more then ten each game.


Warioware is a bunch of minigames.Maybe the guy did not like it.Well I don't trust reviewers anymore they say everything.They don't like it they give it a bad score.

No I'm not complaining about glitches.They need better gametesters to find and fix more glitches.

Peanut
03-13-2005, 02:24 AM
You can't compare DS online to Xbox Live though. That's just pure apples and oranges man. Anyways, I hope there's a specific way to be able to pinpoint certain DS users and get to their villages/join their games. Much like an XBL gamertag. I don't know how it would work though. GWG's My Nintendo account idea is a good one. I can't wait to chop down all the trees in Barkworms village! :D

I thought we were done with Shredder Utroms nonsense, but I guess I was wrong. :ohwell:

Barkworm
03-13-2005, 03:57 AM
You can't compare DS online to Xbox Live though. That's just pure apples and oranges man. Anyways, I hope there's a specific way to be able to pinpoint certain DS users and get to their villages/join their games. Much like an XBL gamertag. I don't know how it would work though. GWG's My Nintendo account idea is a good one. I can't wait to chop down all the trees in Barkworms village! :D
I've never played Animal Crossing but if you do that I'll find a way to bomb yours. I swear!

ThirdMarioBro
03-13-2005, 08:24 AM
I kind of see the Nintendo DS online service working like the Socom online service, if anyone knows what that looks like. I know we have Sony haters here. A friends list would be nice, storing their IP address, and that would probably end up being free as well, since AIM keeps your buddy list on the server for free. It's weird, though. Will we be able to play with Europeans, too? Their wireless standards are different, aren't they? It's been a while since I opened my Cisco book.

I don't think so, and even if Europeans had a different Wireless standard, the data is still the same, and DS is region free anyway. We're not connecting to them directly, we're connecting to the data coming from their router.....or something like that.

Gamespot is evil. That's all I'll say. They trash the DS, trash, DKJB, trash everything and just feep on preaching the PSP PSP PSP PSP. They're paid off and I want nothing to do with them.

I'm so glad you're enjoying the DS Barkworm. It's just so much damn fun to mess around with. :)

Barkworm
03-13-2005, 09:42 AM
What's not to enjoy? Okay, there are not that many killer games right now but I'm sure we're going to get some awesome sh*t soon.

03-13-2005, 12:04 PM
On a little side-note, I'm playing Paper Mario 2. I'm really enjoying it. It's like the old Paper Mario without the suck. :lol:

Hopefully I'll have the game done by the end of next week.

Kid Icarus
03-13-2005, 01:04 PM
You can't compare DS online to Xbox Live though. That's just pure apples and oranges man.
All depends on how they impliment it... Warp Pipe's working on something big, and we know Nintendo's involved... and they keep capsing the D and S in DemaSked. I'm thinking they're comming out with a GBA cart that stores some kinda Nintendo Online software.

We'll know more at E3 though :D.

And Peanut... I'll chop down his trees first! Then All of his cool villagers'll move to MY village! Bwahaha! (god, this game's going to sap even more of my life then the first Animal Crossing -_-).

Barkworm
03-13-2005, 01:13 PM
Why does everyone want to chop my trees? :(

ThirdMarioBro
03-13-2005, 01:20 PM
On a little side-note, I'm playing Paper Mario 2. I'm really enjoying it. It's like the old Paper Mario without the suck. :lol:

Hopefully I'll have the game done by the end of next week.

End of the week? I don't think so. It WAAAY longer than that. Try 2 or 3 weeks. But every moment of it is enjoyable and funny :D :D

Kid Icarus
03-13-2005, 01:46 PM
Unless you lose some of those little bug things in the tree right at the end of the level, and have to backtrack all the way to the begining of the level to get them back, only to make it to the end and lose one, and have to do it all over...

Stupid tree level.

Oh, and now that we know the Rev. will be backwards compatable, what are your guys' ideas on input methods? PGC board members seem to think it'll be able to use GCN controlers... Which would be all kinds of awesome... along with the new funky controler Nintendo's working on.

Peanut
03-13-2005, 03:43 PM
Why does everyone want to chop my trees? :(

:lol: I'd never do that to any of you guys! I've only ever done it to my sisters town, because she traveled to mine back and forth to get rid of all her villagers. In the process I lost all my favourites, including Mitzi, Twirp and Hugh. All my faves. :-? I wonder if there'll be villager trading on a regular basis like the GC version? If so, there could be villagers ending up all over the world with letters from EVERYWHERE! That would be so cool.

ThirdMarioBro
03-13-2005, 04:01 PM
Unless you lose some of those little bug things in the tree right at the end of the level, and have to backtrack all the way to the begining of the level to get them back, only to make it to the end and lose one, and have to do it all over...

Stupid tree level.

Oh, and now that we know the Rev. will be backwards compatable, what are your guys' ideas on input methods? PGC board members seem to think it'll be able to use GCN controlers... Which would be all kinds of awesome... along with the new funky controler Nintendo's working on.

Yeah, that was my idea too. I think it'll come with more methods of control than 2. Various theorys have included short range sonar to do what they Eye Toy does, but on a percice scale of movement tracking. Others include Gyro based tilt sencors in the controllers or touch screen controllers or both. I think it'll come with the new controls, as well as a newly streamlined wireless version of the Cube's controler for third party ports. Personally, I'm thinking a combination of the floating LCD imagry tied with the sonar to let you interact with the objects that are hovering in front of you. Yeah, a long shot but completely possible. They'll keep the GCN controller as well because it's a perfect standard, just like Sony's is stardard to them now. The new control is going to be something freaky we're not expecting. That's why I'm thinking Sonar movement tracking mixed with floating imagry technology which is what that patent pointed to.

Long shot, but entirely possible and Nintendo likes freaky stuff. Believe me, that would TOTALLY own. I've seen the technology at an expo, it IS possible. Has been for about 4 years now. Call it fake Holograms 101.

03-13-2005, 04:15 PM
As way out of this world as that is, that would be pretty awesome, but consider this. The technology is there, but is it economically sound? I don't exactly want to pay $50+ for a second controller, or a new one if my current one breaks, which could be pretty easy to do if it's a touch screen or a gyro like you suggested. The learning curve for the controller would be pretty extensive, too, and it would be different for each game. Not only that, but I don't want 500 buttons and 50 control sticks/directional pads on my controller. I want to keep this as simple as possible to give me enough entertainment to fit my needs. This is just coming from one person, but I'm sure plenty would agree.

ThirdMarioBro
03-13-2005, 04:46 PM
Well, like I said, I'm just throwing out random stuff to see if I hit something because time is running out. The specs are gonna leak out here within the next few weeks, then NIntendo will start denying it at which time we'll know we have the specs.

Do consider though that if Nintendo is wierd enough to create the Bongos, I'm not ruling out anything yet :lol: :lol:

Shadow
03-13-2005, 10:23 PM
HELP ME!![/B]

[B]DOES ANYONE HAVE A WORKING SUPER NINTENDO (OLD SCHOOL) THAT IS IN WORKING CONDITION THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO SELL IT?


I accidently broke my best friend in the whole world's. I need to find some way to replace it.


I'll happily pay for it.


send me a PM please.

Kid Icarus
03-13-2005, 11:13 PM
Shadow - If the SNES didn't own all, and I wasn't trying to collect every Nintendo console I can, I'd sell you mine.

Check used game stores in your town Shadow, most of them sell SNES's with 2 controlers and everything you need for under $60.

TMB, Ai - I doubt we'll be seeing the floating hologram technology with this wave of machines, especially since we know the Revolution's going to have a DVI out built in. Why go through the trouble to hook it up to a computer moniter if it's going to come with a wacky LCD screen?

My bet on the controller is 2 little pod things with gyros in them. One has a control stick, the other has a C stick, or buttons of some sort. Maybe even analog triggers for your thumb, pointer and middle fingers that have the 'click' like the GCN's do. Most people can pretend they're swinging a sword, or punching, or lifting something, so this woulden't go against any of the "Four I's" Iwata mentioned. These pods should be wireless though, and work with the WiFi built into the system, peroid. Chords would just limit movement, big time.

Barkworm
03-14-2005, 12:36 AM
Question: What's the best way to keep your DS screens clean? They get dusty so easily.

ThirdMarioBro
03-14-2005, 01:45 AM
Simple. Just use a soft cotton cloth to clean them, then buy some Pelican screen protectors to overlay on the screens. Makes a big difference and they don't smudge easily. :)

Barkworm
03-14-2005, 01:49 AM
Thanks, I was thinking about getting screen protectors anyway. :)

Kid Icarus
03-14-2005, 01:52 PM
I only use the bottom screen protector on mine. The best part? The kit comes with a soft cloth to clean the screens with. And, of course, keep your DS closed up when you're not playing it.

Kid Icarus
03-15-2005, 12:28 AM
I posted this in the new Zelda thread, but thought it was worth posting here. Over all, I think Nintendo should do this with every AAA calibur game they release, and even work deals like this with third parties.

Here's what needs to happen for this sucker to sell like mad crazy:

People play it at E3, give it stunning reviews.

Nintendo backs it with a huge ad campain (and, since we have Reggie, it won't be another 'Clean is Better then Dirty' fiasco).

Make a preorder deal that gives away all of the Gameboy Zelda titles on a GCN disc, excluding Link to the Past (that's already avalable on GBA and GBP anyway). Include this with the game when it ships, and give people who preorder it and those that pick it up from the first shipment a Limited Edition that comes with an art book, and a book explaining the Zelda timeline. Heck, toss in a gold (read the next one for how it'd look) Memory Card 59 just for kicks. Slap "Collectors Edition" on EVERYTHING in the bundle.

Bundle it in with another Zelda Gamecube (metallic gold, like the NES Zelda 1 Game Pak, with a hologram Triforce in place of the circle plate and a matching golden controller). Include the first Zelda collection for GCN in the package as well. Charge people $10-$20 less then buying a Gamecube and Zelda to fuel sales even more.

And boom. You've got the best selling game of this generation. I'll be damned if Reggie doesn't out do this though. We've yet to really see that man flex his muscles at Nintendo. I can see what he did for VH1 though, and it's just scary knowing we're going to see a new Nintendo with in 2 years.

Mecha Cow
03-15-2005, 04:53 AM
That would be cool. They will never explain the timeline though.

Barkworm
03-15-2005, 07:39 AM
Although I'd love seeing Zelda as this generation's best selling game, I doubt it will outsell the Halo and GTA games.

Kid Icarus
03-15-2005, 12:33 PM
It all deals with marketing. That, IMHO, is the sole reason X-box is still alive. It has maybe handfull of must own games(Halo, Halo 2, and Ninja Gaiden. Maybe Fable...). Sony's based their entire console division on building insane ammounts of hype for EVERYTHING they do.

I see no reason why Nintendo can't do the same, other then them not wanting to... and that's some bull ****. Hype drives sales, and it's time Nintendo realizes this. They did good with the DS, I'm just hoping they'll keep it up.

ThirdMarioBro
03-15-2005, 05:42 PM
And boom. You've got the best selling game of this generation. I'll be damned if Reggie doesn't out do this though. We've yet to really see that man flex his muscles at Nintendo. I can see what he did for VH1 though, and it's just scary knowing we're going to see a new Nintendo with in 2 years.

Exactly. I really think you're right on this one. They've hyped this thing so much, it's just crazy. It's also very different from the Nintendo we used to know. Gamecube has already been plastered as a kiddy machine, and Reggie admitted it at GDC. We all know it, and it's not going to change in the last year. Revolution is a freash start in so many ways, and since it's backwards compatible, the changing of NIntendo's image begins with this Zelda. Imagining a Nintendo to VH1 change is just chilling in a VERY cool sort of way. Nintendo's artistic talent mixed with a cool market image. I see the DS ad campeign as his first real test. We all know how it's turned out so far. :thumbsup: Now it moves into the real fight. Just imagine, on the outside, a completely different Nintendo with the ability to hype and market any crap that crawls out from under a rock. On this inside, the same Nintendo we love with the production values and developers we treasure. That is my dream. Make it come true Reggie. I know you can.

JameO
03-15-2005, 08:42 PM
I finally got Jungle Beat today, and from what I have played, it is awesome! Can't wait for Donkey Konga 2!

ThirdMarioBro
03-15-2005, 10:30 PM
Hot damn. I am soooo looking forward to this. I need my platforming fix. Gonna pick it up sometime this week. Now to find my bongos...

*digs in closet*

Barkworm
03-15-2005, 11:06 PM
Don't expect some hardcore difficulty though like fatass Jeff "I don't get it!" Gerstmann did. The game is all about getting highscores, winning crests and seeing old DK doing some awesome sh*t.

Kid Icarus
03-15-2005, 11:18 PM
As games should be :nod:.

Not every game needs to be Ikurga.

ThirdMarioBro
03-15-2005, 11:41 PM
All I want is those boss fights. Those look to be a blast.

Barkworm
03-15-2005, 11:59 PM
The boss fights are indeed awesome but unfortunately a little repetitive. There are only five different kinds of bosses but especially the fights against the ape kings are amazingly done.

ThirdMarioBro
03-17-2005, 01:27 AM
OK, I got Jungle Beat. I'll come back when I kick some Gorilla ass. :D :D

Peanut
03-17-2005, 11:01 AM
I just got back from my friends yesterday. I brought my DS, and everyone who touched it fell in love with it. They were totally addicted to Wario Ware. I could hardly get near it without some one begging to play it. Looks like a sold a bunch more people on getting a DS. :D

PS Jungle Beat is pretty good. The combo system is really fun.

Barkworm
03-17-2005, 11:17 AM
I'm totally in love with Jungle Beat so don't wonder why I mention the game in every freaking post. :lol:
Oh and I finally bought "Super Mario 64" and it rocks. The controls are a lot better than I thought.

ThirdMarioBro
03-17-2005, 11:45 AM
Yup, Mario is so much fun on the DS. I really thought the music would get gored on a handheld like all the others, but thankfully it didn't. Pure greatness.

Honestly, touch screens were no fun until Nintendo got their hands on one. Now I can't imagine life without them :D New interfaces kick ass.

ThirdMarioBro
03-18-2005, 12:44 AM
February's Top Twenty Titles

March 18, 2005

by: Eric Topf

The NPD Group comes up with the rankings for the second month of the year.
February was going to be an interesting month for Nintendo, in that we would be able to see how their new Star Fox game would fare as well as if the latest Resident Evil would have legs. All that said, Nintendo managed to snag 5 out of the top twenty games.

These games were of course Zelda: The Minish Cap for the Game Boy Advance at number 5, Resident Evil 4 at number 8, Super Mario 64 DS at number 11, Star Fox Assault at number 15 and Wario Ware: Touched! at number 16.

Star Fox clearly has underperformed now in both sales and critical reviews. The full list of the top twenty games can be found below:

1. Gran Turismo 4 (PS2) Sony
2. NBA Street V3 (PS2) Electronic Arts
3. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (PS2) Take-Two
4. MVP Baseball 2005 (PS2) Electronic Arts
5. The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap (GBA) Nintendo
6. NBA Street V3 (Xbox) Electronic Arts
7. Mercenaries (PS2) Lucasarts
8. Resident Evil 4 (Cube) Capcom USA
9. Champions: Return to Arms (PS2) Sony
10. Madden NFL 2005 (PS2) Electronic Arts
11. Super Mario 64 DS (DS) Nintendo
12. Mercenaries (Xbox) Lucasarts
13. Xenosaga Episode II (PS2) Namco
14. NBA Live 2005 (PS2) Electronic Arts
15. Star Fox Assault (Cube) Nintendo
16. Wario Ware: Touched! (DS) Nintendo
17. MVP Baseball 2005 (Xbox) Electronic Arts
18. Halo 2 (Xbox) Microsoft
19. World Championship Poker (PS2) Crave Entertainment
20. Need For Speed: Underground 2 (PS2) Electronic Arts




Damn, I wish Star Fox had done better. *sigh*

March 17, 2005

by: Chris Playo

The Japanese publishing behemoth, Square-Enix has announced the development of a new game for the DS.
Yesterday, Square-Enix officially announced to the public their plans to bring the popular Dragon Quest series to the Nintendo DS. The first images of the game have yet to be unveiled, but the company confirmed that the game will be shown in a Japanese magazine this saturday. This newly confirmed title is one of many in development by Square. The company is currently working on several titles such as, Final Fantasy III, Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles , Slime Morimori Dragon Quest.

Ladies and gentlemen, Japanese DS sales just skyrocketed. Dragon Quest assures this thing will have a long happy life in Japan.

Kid Icarus
03-18-2005, 12:59 AM
And releasing a Final Fantasy game over here, say when the Advent Children movie comes out, will ensure it's popular here.

I just hope Ninty can pump out enough DS's to sell to the millions that wanna play Dragon Quest >_>.

Barkworm
03-18-2005, 02:04 AM
Keep in mind that it's just a spin-off though. Good news anyway.

ThirdMarioBro
03-18-2005, 03:03 AM
if it says Dragon Quest, it'll sell like wildfire. I'm happy.

BTW, Barkworm, that Avatar is halarious. I love this game :D

Barkworm
03-18-2005, 03:40 AM
So do I, so do I.

Duke
03-18-2005, 08:50 AM
Damn, I wish Star Fox had done better. *sigh*No offense but what did u really expect. You're about the only person (on the net or in real life) i heard praise the game.

On a side note I picked up Yoshi Touch and Go yesterday. I've yet to really have time to play it but the little I have is pretty fun.

ThirdMarioBro
03-18-2005, 11:20 AM
Give us a review or something. I'm really curious about that game.


This is what I don't quite get. SFAst is a stright up sequel. Sony produces them by the millions, and people hail them as Revolutionary, no matter how canned and repetitive they are *coughGranTourismo4cough* Nintendo produces one and it's supposedly a total piece of crap.

That's my point. Nintendo fans are jaded and expect perfection on every game, or they don't want it. This is not a good thing.

Kid Icarus
03-18-2005, 12:38 PM
BW, I think you're thinking of the Slime Morimori Dragon Quest game... that one was already announced.

This Dragon Quest is a totally new game, NOT a spinoff like the Slime game is.

Peanut
03-18-2005, 05:16 PM
http://cube.ign.com/articles/597/597052p1.html

Interesting article about the new Zelda.

ThirdMarioBro
03-18-2005, 05:31 PM
Hmm, that was quite interesting to read. I'm leaning twords the control of animals and the gaining powers from the dead theory. I believed that the soundtrack would be orchestrated for a while now seeing as it was rumored since forever and Starfox was, and lets not forget Smash Bros. It'll be grand to hear Koji Kondo strut his stuff. Nice read.

*edit*

The untimate flash, Rise of the Mushroom Kingdom 4 is out now after the who knows how many months wait. :D :D

Mecha Cow
03-19-2005, 12:20 AM
A lot of those 'points' are IGN's usual fanfics...Like that moon thing. :roll:

ThirdMarioBro
03-19-2005, 01:50 AM
Okay, I know this is going to sound fanboyish, but give me a chance...
_______________________________
Nintendo & Microsoft May Expand

March 18, 2005

by: Matt Saunderson

The two companies have submitted proposals to develop new office space.
Nintendo of America has filed a development proposal in Redmond, Washington to reserve the right to expand its headquarters in the Overlake area of Redmond. While Nintendo says that it does not currently have any plans to expand its headquarters, the company is ensuring that its neighbor Microsoft Corp., does not limit Nintendo's potential expansion by pushing the area too close to a development cap.

"It's really more about protecting our ability to develop that land in the future," said Beth Llewelyn, Nintendo of America's Director of Public Relations.

Nintendo's proposal would allow the company to double its space, adding approximately 551,000 square feet of new buildings on a 27 acre site north of its headquarters.

Microsoft, however, put forth its own proposal for a whopping 2.19 million square feet of development. Microsoft seeks to boost the size of its offices from 8 million square feet to over 10 million square feet.

The problem

with Nintendo and Microsoft's proposals is that the two proposals combined would result in the 2.62 million square foot development cap being exceeded by 220,000 square feet, leaving no space for other companies to expand. Fortunately, for Nintendo and other companies, Microsoft has said that it plans to hold about 251,000 square feet of planned space out of its proposal to accommodate other companies in the area. Microsoft is asking the city of Redmond to give it the right to place the space back into its plan later if the development cap is increased or if development by other companies is less than expected. The cap is currently set to expire in 2012, and part of a traffic management and planning agreement between Redmond and its neighboring city of Bellevue, Washington.

Microsoft's Senior Community Affairs Manager, Jim Stanton, said that the decision to remove the 251,000 square feet of space from its proposal came after "fairly extensive and amicable" discussions with local Nintendo executives. In addition, Microsoft and Nintendo worked extensively with the city of Redmond. Nintendo has said that it supports Microsoft’s expansion, as long as it does not inhibit their own growth.

In a recent public hearing regarding the issue, many residents were concerned that new development would affect their neighborhoods. "It seems they can put up buildings much faster than either the cities of Redmond, Bellevue or Kirkland can respond with infrastructure improvements," said Redmond resident Cindy Ludwig.

We'll keep you updated on anything significant.

source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer
________________________________

Okay, my guess is that Microsoft has the belief that they will take over NIntendo before the end of the next generation. They could be wishing to expand their offices close to Nintendo so that if they ever attempted to overtake them, a merger would be easy. Now, we all know that isn't going to happen if Nintendo stays in the green, but it feels awful damn sneaky to me. Dosen't leave a good aura either. I think there's going to be some sh*t come up when Yamauchi dies.

Or it could just be a load of crap, and they've both grown petty enough to bicker over land rights. Who knows., who cares.

Spitfire
03-19-2005, 07:17 PM
Anyone get Yoshi's Touch And GO yet? I got it yesterday. its pretty fun but pretty pointless. There isnt even a story. Just good gameplay. Much better the Mr.Driller which was starting to bore me

Kid Icarus
03-19-2005, 10:51 PM
I hear it's good, but until I have things squared away in Pokemon land, I won't have any spare cash. I splurged on the Marvel Legends Iceman Thursday, 'cause I've wanted that figure ever since I picked up the Gambit olmost 2 years ago.

Duke
03-19-2005, 11:15 PM
I've had Yoshi Touch and Go since wednesday it's pretty good but the lack of story is starting to get to me. Still fun though and some of the stuff is pretty challanging.

Spitfire
03-20-2005, 12:00 AM
Im hopeing to get Pokemon Dash soon ^_^ My friend wants to race me

Barkworm
03-20-2005, 12:32 AM
I heard that game totally blows.

Spitfire
03-20-2005, 01:51 AM
I actually havent seen anything on it but a few videos maybe Ill let my friend buy it first and then consider buying it. I kinda need to save money up anyways I got better things to buy....

Mecha Cow
03-20-2005, 04:38 AM
Yeah, the game has been getting nothing but bad reviews. Truth be told I don't think it looks that good anyway.

ThirdMarioBro
03-20-2005, 07:32 AM
The game does blow. Played it at Gamestop. Just a Pikachu money milker. Wait for Pokemon XD, or buy Yoshi's Touch and Go instead.

I found Street Fighter Zero 3 for Saturn cheap:D :D :D

Duke
03-20-2005, 08:30 AM
I found Street Fighter Zero 3 for Saturn cheap:D :D :DNow that is something to smile about.

ThirdMarioBro
03-20-2005, 08:42 AM
Hey Duke, I have a question. What is it about the Saturn version of Alpha 3 that makes it so much better than the others, supposedly Dreamcast included? I know about the missing frames from the PSOne version, but waht makes it better than Dreamcast?

Duke
03-20-2005, 11:52 AM
Sorry TMB but I have no clue. To tell you the truth I have very little knowledge when it comes to saturn. I never owned one and only knew one person who did. And other than the few games he had, my experience is extremely limited. I just know from forums that a copy of Street Fighter Zero 3 for Saturn goes for around 130.

ThirdMarioBro
03-20-2005, 12:33 PM
130!?! Yuck. I got it for $50 at a local import shop. It was sitting in the back of a dusty display case. I was like, "Is that.....OMG HOLY SH*T". 130 is just stupid nuts.

Kid Icarus
03-20-2005, 12:43 PM
Im hopeing to get Pokemon Dash soon ^_^ My friend wants to race me
Don' get Pokemon Dash... go pick up a Starcharge Pokemon TCG theme deck and learn to play!

That, or wait for me to figure out Apprentice and how to properly patch it, and I'll teach you guys how to play on there. Fun times.

BTW, my record in the Iowa State Pokemon TCG championship was 3/3. I figure that's 15-12th. Not bad outta 32 players, IMHO. That, and the people around here just SUCK at the game 'cause they won't play the competitive decks out there, so I went in there with hardly any decent practice. My friends got 5th in the 11-14 age group, and 10th in the 15+ group. And it was hellafun. >_>.

Edit: More Pokemon TCG stuff

According to Wizards of the Coast, Magic: The Gathering has only sold 96% of what the Pokemon TCG has. Here's their chart: click me! (http://www.gamingreport.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=My_eGallery&file=index&do=showpic&pid=2657&orderby=titleA) . Basicly, Pokemon STILL own Magic, and was totally owning it in '99 and halfway through 2001. And, if I remember right, it's the only game that's ever done that.

Plus, the sales are on the rise. State tournament numbers are double what they were last year everywhere. The one I went to had a total of 57 players up from 20 in '04., and Californias had a whopping 167 players.

And my offer still stands to teach you guys over Apprentice... i'll put links to software up as soon as i know how to run it >_>.

Demented Utrom
03-20-2005, 12:45 PM
A 130 dollars for one game.That is 6 years old or more.Somebody was charging nearly a 100 dollars for Mega man X3 for super nintendo.

ThirdMarioBro
03-20-2005, 07:17 PM
No dude, they were charging that much for the game because it is the best home translation of the game, and it was produced in EXTEMEMLY rare quantities, and only in Japan. Mega Man X3 was released as the SNES was on death's door, and is extremely rare as well. They charge those stupid prices because they know collectors *ahem* will pay that much for it. It's a vicious cycle, but every so often you'll find some fool who dosen't know what it's worth when they sell it.


Well folks, the PSP comes out this week. Best Buy is opening at Midnight, and they shoved the DS on the back corner of the sales papers with the microwaves and discount stuff while PSP got the entire front page. It's going to be a sh*tty week. I'm just going to sit on the internet until my eyes glaze over. Oh, and Thursday I'm taking my DS to Gamestop and hanging out all day with Feel the Magic and Wario Ware just to piss people off.

Demented Utrom
03-20-2005, 07:28 PM
PSP and don't know the point of another handheld.I rather buy Sega classics collection that is coming out the same week.I recently got Mortal Kombat Deception for Gamecube.Gamecube got 2 extras characters.Good ones to Shao Kahn and Goro.

ThirdMarioBro
03-20-2005, 07:55 PM
And for once Nintendo Power tells me something I didn't already know. DS Online service news!
__________________________
GameSpy and Nintendo: Online

March 20, 2005

by: Agustin Olvera

Nintendo DS is Online, and the latest NP details Nintendo's partnership with GameSpy.
The latest issue of Nintendo Power brought great new news for the Nintendo DS. Along with these great announcements came another revelation from Nintendo President and CEO Satoru Iwata: the partnership between Nintendo and GameSpy to create a wireless multiplayer network for the DS.

This service promises to be simple to set up and easy to use program available to users world-wide that have access to a hopspot. Iwata also detailed that developers currently working on local wireless play games will be able to easily expand many of their projects to include Online play.

The first DS game confirmed with Online play was Animal Crossing which was officially announced back in GDC. With future titles subject to Online play, one can only hope that games such as Mario Kart DS and Metroid Prime: Hunters include this feature.

More information is expected to be revealed at this year's E³.
___________________________

Very interesting. I wonder how Gamespy is going to do this. Either way HOT DAMN. Other news includes that Metroid Hunters and Mario Kart were both delayed so that they could impliment the online features. So happy I could cry. It's so good to hear that all of this is going smoothly.

Demented Utrom
03-20-2005, 08:00 PM
The first ever Handheld that is online.I wonder how Nintendo will do this.Nintendo DS NA is only North America users to play against eachother.It would not work worldwide.Is it worldwide for DS or just play against other people in North America.The article says worldwide maybe this will work.

Nintendo's next console might be online or not.I think Revolution should be online.

03-20-2005, 08:07 PM
N-Gage was online? Iwata's keynote said Revolution will have Wi-Fi wireless? Yeah.

ThirdMarioBro
03-20-2005, 08:09 PM
Iwata already said Revolution will be online. It's confirmed.

Also, Wi-Fi codes are the same all around the world so the DS will be global online capatabile. I can finally play Mario Kart against some of the world champions.

Here's a thought......Panel De Pon (Tetris Attack) online. My God it would be glorious. I'd also hope for Puzzle Fighter online, but Capcom is cheap, so I doubt it. Panel De Pon would kick it's ass anyways.

So many online possibilities....

Kid Icarus
03-21-2005, 02:43 AM
Rare games - I bought my copy of MMX3 for $5 at a Blockbuster when they cleared out their SNES and Genesis games. They had MMX2 for $3, and I was gonna get both, but it sold before I could get back with my money.

PSP launch - TMB, if you thought the mainstream was going to ignore its launch, you were delusional. I should go to a midnight launch, with my DS, and demo software to people before they waste their money on a PSP.

And I've yet to run across a PSP demo unit, anywhere. Big ****-up by Sony, right there, that people can't deny. I, for one, won't buy a system unless I can demo it... not that I'd ever waste my money on that turd.

S.U. - Your posts are making my head want to explode. Grammar is your friend, be kind to it. I know you've got some kinda freaky computer problem... you ever try reinstaling Windows? Go pick up a $30 CD burner, back up what you need, and just reinstall. 9 outta ten times, the problem has to do with registry files becomming corrupt. Until Microsoft removes their head from their asses, you'll always deal with that on a Windows machine. More proof that the mass market, in general, are morons.

Duke
03-21-2005, 12:33 PM
Yeah I'm upset that I haven't gotten to try a psp out either. I'm not going to get one but I'd still like to see one first hand.

ThirdMarioBro
03-21-2005, 01:14 PM
PSP launch - TMB, if you thought the mainstream was going to ignore its launch, you were delusional. I should go to a midnight launch, with my DS, and demo software to people before they waste their money on a PSP.


I never said they were going to ignore it. They're gonna eat it up. I just know there's going to be people at the launch who ridicule me for owning a DS instead of the "cool" system. It justs get's old.

I gotta think of some anti-PSP lines to spew while there that can't argued with. Any help?

Mecha Cow
03-21-2005, 01:19 PM
I just know there's going to be people at the launch who ridicule me for owning a DS instead of the "cool" system.
Hey, my friend thought the PSP was going to be the the greatest thing since sliced bread, but he completely fell in love with my DS a few seconds after turning on the power. ;)

Demented Utrom
03-21-2005, 01:19 PM
PSP problems the Disc comes out during play.Discs get screwed up and wrecked.It costs an arm and leg to buy new.In Canada it was 350 dollars without games.

I saw a video on the internet.A guy was playing a game.The disc fell out while he was playing it.

Mecha Cow
03-21-2005, 01:23 PM
PSP problems the Disc comes out during play.Discs get screwed up and wrecked.It costs an arm and leg to buy new.In Canada it was 350 dollars without games.
...Err...What?

Duke
03-21-2005, 05:25 PM
I still can't believe games are going to be $50 each.

Spitfire
03-21-2005, 07:41 PM
I know someone with a PSP. They got it from Japan I guess. He said it's region locked*yay another thing that makes it suck* and the games he gets have to be in Japanese. Which isnt so bad I guess I have my DS in Japanese at the menu. Anyways I played Metal Gear Acid and well...All I felt the entire time playing it was the burning urge to play another MGS game. "Hey I want to shoot that guy!! Crap I dont have the card to do it I guess Ill just sit here and be bored until I can attack him" LAME! Sony has hit rock bottom. Now God Of War is comming out. Every PS2 fanboy is drooling over it mainly because it has a mini game where you have sex with some chick. Pathic immature breed of people. They even went as far as to say it's better then DMC 3. Which is funny they say that since its not out yet. They said it got better reviews. But it only has one review and its from IGN. Further more people dont liek DMC 3 because its to hard. Litterly every low score is because of that or they whine about the camera. GOW only has 3 bosses that's just kinda sad. Ill play it when it comes out just to see it fail to impress me. Nothing this year can top RE 4 and DMC 3 for me :D

03-21-2005, 08:36 PM
God of War looks really good. I want to give it a try.

Duke
03-21-2005, 08:50 PM
God of War looks great and Fable already had the sex thing.

ThirdMarioBro
03-21-2005, 10:40 PM
I know someone with a PSP. They got it from Japan I guess. He said it's region locked*yay another thing that makes it suck*

Lying bastards. They said clear as day at E3 it wasn't. Lying BASTARDS. Ugh, seems Sony wants to continue their practice of ethniticly seperating countries so they can appeal to each one like a seperate contry. "If we choose not to release this game in your region, then you will not be allowed to play it at all."

Luckily Nintendo portables have never had region codes.

*edit*

Yay! I broke 2000 posts. My life is officially wasted :lol: .....wait, that's what I said at 1000. >_>.

Peanut
03-21-2005, 10:43 PM
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1946

I agree with that.

ThirdMarioBro
03-21-2005, 10:48 PM
Bah, give them a chance to explain it. I think they'll give us both so as to make everyone happy. One button based pad, and one touch based pad.

I don't judge anything until I see it and play it. The DS opened up new roads, but it didn't cut off the old ones either. Let's see what they've got before judging it.

03-21-2005, 10:50 PM
You were pretty quick to judge the PSP without ever having played it, but that's besides the point.

I dunno, man. A touch pad? Whatever happened to buttons and directional pads? It took me time to get used to the Gamecube controller, but DAMN! There's 50000000000000000000000000 buttons on it! It takes me three buttons to move forward! I don't want that kind of junk effing up my gameplay.

ThirdMarioBro
03-21-2005, 10:52 PM
Ai, I dunno why you're complaining about Cube having too many buttons. It has 7 buttons, and PS2 has 10. All have 2 sticks. Gamecube has the least amount of buttons.

Peanut
03-21-2005, 10:55 PM
Aren't there 8 buttons on a Gamecube controller? I guess Start doesn't count.

03-21-2005, 10:56 PM
The positioning of the buttons just pisses me off. It's better on PS2 because they are in a square thingy that sort of resembles a directional pad. Gamecube is just way out of whack. I can't wait to blow up my Gamecube.

ThirdMarioBro
03-21-2005, 11:00 PM
I'll give you that. Nintendo was a little selfish with the controller design. It fits the hand great, and the layout is great for Nintendo, but bad for third parties who want to port cheap stuff to all consoles. That's why I think Revolution will have two pads. One that's good for NIntendo, and one that's good for third parties. Long shot, but you never know.

For the record, I love Gamecube's controller, but it is bad for ports, fighters, and several other genres. A touch screen pad would let developers program their own button layout, or use one of several.

Oh, and it'll take a few tries before that Gamecube will blow up. :lol:

Peanut
03-21-2005, 11:07 PM
I like Gamecubes controller a lot, but I don't play third party games on it anyways. For the first party Nintendo games it kicks ass though. Plus the Wavebird is the greatest controller ever.

ThirdMarioBro
03-21-2005, 11:18 PM
Wavebird is just so damn good. The rumble feature always gave me a numb hand anyway. Any controller where I can stand in the back yard and play Metroid Prime 2 is just kickass.

Kid Icarus
03-21-2005, 11:34 PM
God damn, how many times does Iwata have to say REVOLUTION WON'T USE A TOUCH SCREEN until people FINALLY listen?

And do I really have to bring up PS/2 controler = SNES controler + Handles + Rumble + L2/R2? So, really Ai, you like the Super Nintendo controller set up, not the Playstation 2 set up, 'cause it's not really theirs to lay claim to.

ThirdMarioBro
03-21-2005, 11:41 PM
And do I really have to bring up PS/2 controler = SNES controler + Handles + Rumble + L2/R2? So, really Ai, you like the Super Nintendo controller set up, not the Playstation 2 set up, 'cause it's not really theirs to lay claim to.

Owned. Really.

Peanut
03-21-2005, 11:54 PM
Almost all controllers are basically the same. The Gamecube controller is really the only one with many differences. SNES, PSX, PS2, Xbox. They're all fundementally the same.

Barkworm
03-22-2005, 12:53 AM
God damn, how many times does Iwata have to say REVOLUTION WON'T USE A TOUCH SCREEN until people FINALLY listen?

And do I really have to bring up PS/2 controler = SNES controler + Handles + Rumble + L2/R2? So, really Ai, you like the Super Nintendo controller set up, not the Playstation 2 set up, 'cause it's not really theirs to lay claim to.
That doesn't change the fact that the PS2 has the best controller of this generation's consoles.

Kid Icarus
03-22-2005, 12:57 AM
Then why do I get cramps from holding it too long? The handles really should have been reworked.

Mecha Cow
03-22-2005, 01:19 AM
That poll is odd...I admit, a touch screen controller would be weird, but how would it limit gameplay? I mean, you'd have unlimited buttons, right? :-?

GK Punk
03-22-2005, 01:23 AM
I kinda like the idea of a Tocuh Screen controller. It would allow Virtually limitless configuration.

Peanut
03-22-2005, 01:26 AM
I personally don't think the PS2 controller is the best of this generation. You can't say it's the undisputed best, because that's just an opinion. My hands hurt after holding it for awhile. I like both the Xbox controller S and the Wavebird much better.

Barkworm
03-22-2005, 03:26 AM
Yeah, of course it's just an opinion. Quite a popular one though. Then again, it's also a popular opinion that the GC controller sucks and that's complete bullsh*t IMO. Personally I think the PS2 controller is slightly better than the GC's because of the better D-Pad and the second analog stick. I was being a little stupid, sorry. It's just that all the idiotic Sony hatred is finally getting on my nerves.

Peanut
03-22-2005, 03:28 AM
I agree, the PS2 D-Pad is much better. Then again, you don't use the GC D-Pad much anyways.

And hate will get on anyones nerves, dude. Don't worry about it.

Mecha Cow
03-22-2005, 06:21 AM
I think we'll be fine if some people will stop making spiteful comments towards certain companies and other people will stop speaking of console wars and leaving the forum every time there's a discussion.

We're all adults here, let's get along. If you don't like something, don't mention it. :)

Barkworm
03-22-2005, 06:34 AM
Now that's a good idea!

Kid Icarus
03-22-2005, 11:46 AM
Yeah, but that'll happen just as soon as Sony releases good hardware...

Sorry, coulden't help it.

The PS2 controler doesn't have a D Pad, it has 4 buttons that mimic a D pad. And once again, It really should be refered to as the Super Nintendo controler with handles and a crappy D Pad knock off.

And you guys wanna see me slam Ninty a little? The D pad and Z buttons are worthless. Same with the C stick, and analog shoulder triggers.

The first Xbox controler was a bigger turd then the PSP... a MUCH bigger turd. The buttons were WAY too close together, and I coulden't hit the pause button without taking my hand off of the controler. Millions spent on R&D my ass.

I think we can all be assured that the Colecovision, infact, has the WORST controler EVER. I mean, damn, 13 buttons and one joystick? and you held it with one hand? WTF d00d?

Demented Utrom
03-22-2005, 12:11 PM
The D pad on the Gamecube controller is in the wrong spot.It makes some 2D games impossible to play.

The PS2 controller is setup like the old SNES controller.I think this controller easy to use.

Xbox controller is huge and a pain to handle.Even if you have huge hands like I do.

My hands don't cramp on the D pad.When using the analog they do.

I use the Gamecube controller for gameboy advance games.The analog should have been put where the Dpad was and the analog vice versa.

To solve the hands cramping I crack my knuckles this works and thumbs to.

Kid Icarus
03-22-2005, 02:25 PM
SU, the choice to put the analog stick there was made because console games are focusing on 3-D now, not 2-D. I'm guessing you're using a Gameboy Player, and you've got an Advance/SP as well? Go buy a GBA-GCN cable and use the Gameboy as the controler.

ThirdMarioBro
03-23-2005, 01:13 PM
The Xbox's first controller was insane. The buttons felt like giant jellybeans and killed your hand, and the new one still has that problem even if it is smaller. Basically, Dreamcast pad with 3 more buttons and another stick. The PS2 controller is just an SNES knockoff with an altered D-Pad to avoid lawsuits from Ninty. Sega had to alter their's back in the day for the same reason, because Nintendo patented the original D-Pad. Remember? Sega's pad had the Eight was pad that was a dream for fighting games. Having the D-Pad's buttons seperated like that on PS2 makes playing games like Street Fighter near impossible on it due to the fact that you can't roll the pad to do certian moves, thus restricting you to the stick. The handels also hurt when the rumble feature is on, and that just sucks. Bad move. Gamecube's controller has the worst D-Pad Nintendo's ever produced, and was almost left off alltogether had Shiggy not convinced them to keep it one more generation. The L & R triggers are almost worthless because they are too big, the button placement is screwy for anything but first party software, but there's almost nothing wrong with the C-Stick in my opinion. Xbox's other stick is almost in the same place.

Point is, every controller is screwed up in some way, and every controller lifts some ideas from previous ones.

You want some Nintendo bashing? Here goes.

If Nintendo's next controller removes the D-Pad from Revolution, then it will possibly kill a few genres such as Puzzle games, 2-D fighters, and possibly 3-D fighters, along with a few others. That is a fu*king horrible move, and frankly, it worries me that the change will be too severe. If Sony uses the same controller again, the industry will indeed be repeating itself with better graphics and stale gameplay as Iwata said. In truth, I think Microsoft will significantly improve their controller next gen simply because there is so much room for improvement, and they have the ability to learn from their mistakes. I can respect them for that, seeing as Sony pulls the same sh*t over and over.

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Off topic. Bill Gates recently made another slam twords Sony in an interview, but again was very kind twords Nintendo. Now I'm positive he's going to make another move to buy them before next gen. He's purposly trying not to piss them off. This is bad folks. There's gonna be more trouble between next gen and E3. I'm sure of it now.

Peanut
03-23-2005, 03:35 PM
The new Xbox controller doesn't feel bad at all. I don't see what the problem is. Someone please clue me in, because I don't know.

03-23-2005, 05:02 PM
The smaller Xbox controller kicks ass. It's really comfortable in my hands. It reminds me of the Dreamcast controller a little bit. And I got the green Halo controller. It's sweet.

ThirdMarioBro
03-23-2005, 08:39 PM
Well, CNN's hyping it, NBC is hyping it, ABC is hyping it. Add in Cartoon Network, AOL, Two million websites, and God only knows what else, and basically I assume it's safe to say Nintendo's ownership of the handheld market....and it's leadership, ends in 2 1/2 hours.

Do not lecture me on the fact that it was inevitable, or that the public wants it or some sh*t. I'm just depressed in knowing Nintendo is slowly falling into obscurity and Bill Gates is getting ready for another stock offer.

PSP Preorders are flying like all hell, and it's just dawnting. I can't go anywhere in the internet without seeing the f*cking thing. It's even on the ad banners at the top of this page from time to time. DS is no where at all because the media is in bed with Sony as usual. So much for the final realm of gaming with a soul, hello PS2 ports in your pocket.

It was a great 15 years.....

Barkworm
03-23-2005, 11:12 PM
BTW, did anyone else read about Soul Calibur III being PS2 exclusive? I've heard this from several sources now.

Mecha Cow
03-23-2005, 11:59 PM
I heard that too, but my friend said it was an early April fool's joke. We'll have to wait and see I guess.

ThirdMarioBro
03-24-2005, 01:08 AM
BTW, did anyone else read about Soul Calibur III being PS2 exclusive? I've heard this from several sources now.

I heard that it was an early April Fools joke too. Why would they waste III on the gen when it will be about dead by then, and why would they do it when the Gamecube version sold the most copies. If for PS3.....I could almost believe it, but there is no way in hell that is true. It's just crazy.

Kid Icarus
03-24-2005, 01:08 AM
That'll be some BS right there... SC3 being PS2 exclusive, seeing as the GCN version matched the Xbox and PS2 versions combined in sales, and then some.

I keep ranting to people about PSP, and how it's not going to bring anything new to gameplay. Hell, all the launch titles are just reworked PS2 games. I saw them in the cases. And 50 bucks for a portable Spider-man 2 game? That's some BS right there too.

You know what though? I've got my DS, and as long as I get my Revolution that's all I'll ever need for gaming.

In the DS's defense, PSP has a LOT of ground to cover in the US. And with its games priced so high, I bet DS game sales are going to be higher, with GBA sales even higher then that.

ThirdMarioBro
03-24-2005, 01:12 AM
One can hope. I'll never loose hope.

Demented Utrom
03-24-2005, 02:14 AM
I saw the PSP discs on Tuesday.The Walmart where I live already had them in the display case on tuesday.

They had the PSP also in the display case to.
Most of the games are remakes of old PS2 games.

Kid Icarus
03-24-2005, 11:20 AM
Funny thing? I STILL haven't seen a demo unit anywhere. Anyway, guys... back to Nintendo.

Where's the Revolution specs? We know who's making the chipsets, we know their code names, and we know developers have kits already... so why haven't stats been leaked?

I'm with Iwata when he says they arn't going to be an important feature in next gen hardware, but I wanna start getting an idea of how much it's gonna cost.

I'm guessing IBM's going to use their Power PC core, more then likely a variant of the G5, and they'll pry have 2 processors in it. Ninty seems to be fond of 2 processors after all, with the N64, DS, and GBA carrying a dual set up.

As far as ATI's chip... I'm really out of touch with their new cards. Guess I'll have to start digging.

A little over a month till E3 guys :D.

Edit: Turns out SC3 really is PS2 exclusive. Namco just pulled a SEGA. Basicly, I'm getting the feeling that no matter HOW well a game sells on a Nintendo system, developers are always gonna give us the shaft.

Barkworm
03-24-2005, 12:04 PM
I heard that it was an early April Fools joke too. Why would they waste III on the gen when it will be about dead by then, and why would they do it when the Gamecube version sold the most copies. If for PS3.....I could almost believe it, but there is no way in hell that is true. It's just crazy.
It's not an April Fool's joke. Check out IGN, they already have videos for it.
EDIT: Ooops, didn't see Gwg's response.

ThirdMarioBro
03-24-2005, 12:38 PM
God dammit I quit. It sells the best and they put it on the system where it sold the least. Just forget it I quit. To hell with Namco, to hell with the console war, to hell with third parties.

We sell the most and we get f*cked over. Sony probobly paid them to do this. Farewell Soul Caliber. You were fun while you lasted. Now you're on a sh*tty platform with texturing worse than the Dreamcast.

Shows just how much support we're gonna get next gen when Namco won't even put their fu*king fighting game on the platform where it sold most. I'm through with their sh*t forever.

Soul Caliber was the only tournament fighter I had since Street Fighter died. Now i have nothing. All the tournaments will switch over to SCIII and I'll have nothing whatsoever. Now what? To hell with you Namco.

Kid Icarus
03-24-2005, 01:51 PM
Find a ROM for that Street Fighter collection?

Or we start up a HUGE group of gamers that want SC3 multiplatform. I know there's some Xbox gamers, and PS2 owners, that are pissed at this. If we can turn this into a videogame thing, and not just a Nintendo thing, it'd work a lot better.

And again, total crap.

Peanut
03-24-2005, 01:52 PM
Wow. That is a really stupid move on Namco's part. Really stupid.

JameO
03-24-2005, 02:17 PM
GWG and ThirdMarioBro: Why don't you both get Nintendo tattooed to your asses and then you can kiss each others.

Kid Icarus
03-24-2005, 03:51 PM
GWG and ThirdMarioBro: Why don't you both get Nintendo tattooed to your asses and then you can kiss each others. Okay, now that was totally uncalled for.

Mecha Cow
03-24-2005, 04:00 PM
Let's be nice, people.

Peanut
03-24-2005, 04:01 PM
Back on topic, Namco is stupid. What a horrible move on their part. I think it's funny that Xbox fans get a double shaft on the whole Soul Caliber thing though. First they get stuck with Spawn as their extra character, and now they don't even get the new one. Priceless! :lol:

ThirdMarioBro
03-24-2005, 05:03 PM
True, they got it worse than NIntendo fans did. This is total bullsh*t. The fact that Namco would even put a game like that on any current generation console is the stupidest part,especially when they're all going to be on their last breath by that time. If it was on PS3 cell processor, then I'd partially get it, but choosing to put it on current gen consoles, and then the one of the three where it sold least is just absurd. Sony probobly offered a cash incentive for them to waste this on this generations last breath.

Hopefully they'll learn their lesson when Xbox 2's launch completely smothers any hype SCIII would have had.

I'm going to go stir up some crap on Xbox and Nintendo message boards and see if we can't get some kind of gamer revolt going like Gwg said. Soul Caliber is a multiplatform game, and it should stay that way.

*edit*

More bad news
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The new action/platformer game will feature a new lead character with a dark story.
SEGA of America, along with SEGA Europe Limited, today made the official announcement of a new spin-off from the Sonic the Hedgehog series, Shadow the Hedgehog. The game, which is being developed at SEGA Studio USA under the direction of Takashi Iizuka, will allow players to collect weapons, vehicles, and objects to play through over 50 missions.

Shadow the Hedgehog, first introduced in Sonic Adventure 2, is a character tormented by a dark past, struggling to discover his true identity. In the game, Shadow, caught in a complex battle between aliens, the G.U.N. army, and Dr. Eggman, discovers that he may be the very element that will tip the scales between good and evil forever. "Is he an android created by Dr. Eggman? Is he the original Shadow simply suffering from amnesia? Or is there an even more sinister explanation?" asked SEGA in a news release.

"Since we first introduced him in Sonic Adventure 2, we have wanted to feature Shadow in his own game. We maintained Shadow as a mysterious character and now fans can control his destiny by engaging in a unique gameplay experience that offers a multitude of possibilities!" said Shadow the Hedgehog Director Takashi Iizuka.

"The Sonic franchise has sold more than 38-million units worldwide and SEGA plans to support this new brand with a complimentary lineup of new Sonic products across all platforms in 2005. We expect Shadow The Hedgehog to be a cornerstone title in this strategy as well as a new and dynamic brand for SEGA," said Scott Steinberg, SEGA of America's Vice President of Marketing.

Shadow the Hedgehog is set for a Winter 2005 release on all current-generation platforms.

source: SEGA of America - Press Release
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Well that seals it. Sonic Team isn't even making the game which assures it will be garbage. Sega of America hasn't produced anything of much relivance in years, so I don't have high hopes for this. Weapon collecting? Give me a break.

JameO
03-25-2005, 03:46 PM
I feel the need to play Super Mario RPG, but sadly I don't own it. So does anyone know a good site for Super Nintendo and Nintendo Roms that might include this game.

ThirdMarioBro
03-25-2005, 07:41 PM
I'll PM you if/when I find something.

03-25-2005, 07:43 PM
Super Mario RPG has this special chip inside that emulators can't emulate for some reason. They did find a way to do it, but with only the Japanese version.

ThirdMarioBro
03-25-2005, 07:46 PM
??? I never had a problem with it for some reason. Maybe it was a patched version.

Duke
03-25-2005, 07:57 PM
I own the game but i've also played it on an emulator and it worked fine.

ThirdMarioBro
03-25-2005, 08:09 PM
I own the game too, but the battery died, so I went to the Rom to finsh.

Now, I've been poking around the web and I'm finding some interesting stuff. Here are some quotes from other message boards. I did not write them, and they express some opinions from various people from various parts of the country.
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"This is not anti-PSP. This is not pro-DS. This will end up turning into a flame war and for that I apologize, however I can't help but post my observation.

Maybe the PSP isn't selling as well as EB and Gamestop would have you think. Sure, PSPs are sold out or low stock at GAME stores. Where gamers who want systems would think to go first. But everywhere else?

I can't speak for everywhere, but the Meijers that is right next to me on a BUSY intersection, across from an EBGames, is STOCKED with PSPs. Like when I went tonight, I seriously saw a pile of no less than 20 units behind the display case. It appeared as if only about 8 or 9 had been sold. So unless they restocked like a mofo, Meijer didn't sell very many.

This is one store, and I realize this, but I'm curious if anyone else has looked at their local wal-mart/target/meijer. EBGames is like a minute away from EBGames, so if anyone went to EB and found them sold out, I'd assume they would go to Meijer. If this is the case, not very many people were looking for PSPs.

Only time will tell, but just an observation. Try not to begin flaming too fast, Nintendo fanboys. And try not to get too defensive too fast, PSP fanboys.
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interesting.......here's more
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I was at Wal-Mart early today and they didn't appear to be selling well at all. There was a glass case packed with about twenty and it looked like only 3 were missing (bought). PSP is an awesome system, but it just won't be able to stand up to the DS in sales figures. DS has a 4 month head start, a cheaper price, and, though we hate to say it, more kid friendly, and that's where most of the handheld market is.
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Ah ha, so now people are starting to realize what the difference is
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Well I'm just south of you there in Louisville and the stores around here are chock full of them and games with few takers. The 'game chain' stores in town are sold out due to rampant pre-ordering for months, but everyone else can't seem to part with much at all. I was out today getting a game and that's why I knew this.

I mentioned it in another thread too about this but figured since you brought it up. Also I notice Sony fans trying to say there are twice as many units right off, but really that's still no excuse. DS itself started with 500k and had another 100k or so a week through Christmas to be over 1mil and beyond. Pre-orders yah they were booked through Christmas, but also these stores now flooded with the PSPs...NONE had a DS anywhere I went until like mid-January going into February. So I don't think a matter of 500k extra day one really had much to do with it, and neither does the good quality of the unit, or whatever else... it's the price, it's too high and people in this day and age are attracted to the prettier deal.

DS=$150+game is $30(for most)
PSP=$250 and game is 40 or 50.
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Sooo, maybe things aren't going half as well as Sony thought. It's early, but by this time DS had completely been wiped out in preorders alone, and it stayed wiped out all through late Janurary. Still early, byt a damn good sign.