The Nintendo Discussion Thread

[Peanut]

The European list looks a lot better. Even if it's only because they have 4 or 5 Nintendo themes on there. I mean...who decided on this list? Who decided you could drum to HILARY F*CKING DUFF! Bullsh*t!

[ThirdMarioBro]

The day I play a game with Hilary Fu*king Duff music is the day I shoot myself in the nuts, because that'd be a hell of a lot less painful. Again, importing the Japanese version.

[ThirdMarioBro]

LOL

Say hello to the best Game name ever.

It's Nintendo's Japanese DS Dictionary software.....

TOUCH DIC

(pronounced "Touch Dick" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Kid Icarus]

TMB: That's actually some Korean software ;). Apparently electronic dictionaries are pretty popular over there, so they decided to make one for the DS.

Gwgtrunks GOOD DKA2 songs


Donkey Konga 2 Theme
Rock The Boat
Hit 'Em Up Style
Send The Pain Below
Wish You Were Here
La Bamba
Unpretty
Headstrong
All Star
Losing My Religion
Shiny Happy People

I mean, come on... REM more then makes up for Hillary Duff IMHO. La Bamba's on there too? That'll be fun. Besides, you only have to play the crappy songs 3 times each... do any of you actually play Campfire Melody anymore? How 'bout Bingo? I only touch those if my 4 year old nephew picks them.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, but they took out the Nintendo themes or at least made them unlockable which pisses me off. As well, maybe I'll just get both versions.

[Ai]

I just wanted to mention that Voltron's brother won me a Mario plushie from the crane game. It's made by Kellytoy, and I'm sure TMB has like, 10 of them. :D He looks badass, though.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Nope, I only have one.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Check out the Japanese public's most wanted games list from Famitsu.
The Famitsu most wanted games list has just been released. Check out how your favorite system is stacking up against the competition.


1. Final Fantasy XII - (PS2, Square Enix)
2. Kingdom Hearts II - (PS2, Square Enix)
3. Dai-3-Ji Super Robot Taisen Alpha : Shuuen no Ginga e - (PS2, Banpresto)
4. Resident Evil 4 - (PS2, Capcom)
5. Mother 3 - (GBA, Nintendo)
6. Namco X Capcom - (PS2, Namco)
7. Tales of Legendia - (PS2, Namco)
8. Sakura Taisen V : Saraba Aishiki Hito-yo - (PS2, Sega)
9. Killer 7 - (PS2, Capcom)
10. Shadow of the Colossus - (PS2, Sony)
11. Grandia III - (PS2, Square Enix)
12. The Legend of Zelda - (GC, Nintendo)
13. Final Fantasy III - (NDS, Square Enix)
14. TearRing Saga Series : Berwick Saga - (PS2, Enterbrain)
15. Soul Calibur III - (PS2, Namco)
16. Animal Crossing DS - (NDS, Nintendo)
17. Metal Saga : Sajin no Kusari - (PS2, Success)
18. Drakengard 2 - (PS2, Square Enix)
19. Sengoku Basara - (PS2, Capcom)
20. Killer 7 - (GC, Capcom)


Be sure to check back later in the week for continued coverage of the sales of the Nintendo DS in Japan.
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It's like things are completely opposite from us in Japan now. Noboby wants Zelda, and everyone wants PS2 RE4, while in the US everyone wants Zelda and Xbox360, and no one wants PS2 RE4. Me thinks Nintendo's Japanese image is in trouble.

[Ai]

That's quite a list, and it's odd indeed.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Very odd. Meh, I can't wait to see the PS2 version of RE4 at E3. It'll be the best laugh this year.

[Ai]

It'd be even funnier if the graphics were actually decent and they kept the framerate fairly high, therefore ruining some ****. Doubt it, but it'd make my day.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Iwata Talks Wi-Fi

May 09, 2005

by: Matt Saunderson

Nintendo will be setting up free Wi-Fi hotspots in Japan.
Satoru Iwata has confirmed that Nintendo plans to set up Wi-Fi hotspots at videogame retailers throughout Japan. Iwata estimates that it will set up 1,000 hotspots in Japan, and says that the hotspots will be free to all Nintendo DS users. Further, DS users will not have to pay any sort of subscription or monthly fee to connect via Wi-Fi from home.

The bad news is that, some games could carry fees, as Nintendo has not forbidden third-party publishers from charging for online content and play. Iwata says that Nintendo is on the side of free online play, though, and is working towards keeping the DS online experience completely free of charge.

Full details about Nintendo's online plans for the DS (and maybe for the Revolution) will be revealed at E3. Nintendo will also be revealing a name for its Wi-Fi hotspot service. E3 is just one week away, and AMN will be there in force, so stay tuned.

source: AMN
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Hot damn, I hope they follow suit over here as well. Sadly, I think that was Iwata's warning to us that Squinnex will be charging to play online ala FFXI, so fu*k that. Nintendo's stuff is the only games I want to play online anyway (at least portable wise). Hopefully though other third parties will not screw that up. I actually expect EA to not charge for online on the portables as they're portable sales have never been much and that would be a good way to raise them.

[Duke]

Well I can't say I'm really surprised Nintendo is going to allow third parties to charge fees, I'm upset but not surprised. But I do think it is funny how some people on this board claimed Nintendo's noline would own x-box live, without even knowing that much about it. Atleast with x-box live it's one flat rate. If 3rd parties start charging I wouldn't be surprised if noline ends up costing more than live. Anyways, I'm not a huge online gamer anyways, but i did think the free thing was a plus.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Good point, but I never saw th epoint of multiplayer Final Fantasy anyway, and if Nintendo hosted some of the online games on their servers, then it might help the price situation still.

Besides, I just want online Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, and Smash Bros, and maybe some FPS action from Retro....all of which is Nintendo's own stuff which means free.

Still, I think they'll work some deal out in the end. Squeenx just charges because they want to use their own network by routing the Wi-Fi to their own pay servers. Perhaps some third party games will be on Nintendo's network and solve the problem.

You never know how this will turn out. 7 days to press conference.

[Kid Icarus]

I highly doubt it'll cost more then $50 a month for a handful of 3rd party titles, especially when they see that gamers arn't buying their pay-to-play online games. If Nintendo's providing a free infrastructure for them to use at no cost, and Nintendo's made this known to us, why would they try to rip us off?

And TMB, I figured that'd lean more towards Samm... I mean, Sega. heheh.

[Spitfire]

So I read this E3 Gamepro at my friends today. They had details on each system and what they thought of them all. They of course gave Sony's PS3 every praise they could and then proceeded to poke fun at Nintendo's inventive ideas pretty much stateing they think the Revolution is a stupid idea. They also made fun of Nintendo because they said they dont want to compete with other systems. Does Sony pay off magazines or does everyone pretty much hate Nintedo now -_-

[Peanut]

Gamepro is a ridiculously horrible magazine. They throw some horrible jabs at the other consoles, Nintendo especially, all the time. They're all Sony fanboys. They don't review anything besides PS2 games anyways. Look at the June issue. All PS2 and PSP with one PC review.

[Ai]

Yeah, Gamepro is a really bad magazine. I'd go for EGM or something.

[Kid Icarus]

Why pay for game magazines, when there are several free websites you could go to? Gamespot, Planetgamecube, and Advance Media Networks are all great, IGN's not bad but they tend to have their heads up their asses 90% of the time.

Also, keep in mind that no one outside of the Revolution development teams at Nintendo and Retro Studios, Reggie, Perrin Kaplan, George Harrison, Shiggy, and Iwata know what the hell it's really going to do.

This is seriously the most locked down I've seen Nintendo in the past 15 years of tracking their news. Hell, we had Gamecubes spec sheet on the net a few months before we saw it, DS's was a couple months before hand with a picture of the E32004 unit in a web article... we haven't seen a damned thing about Revolution, outside of the few morsoles of info Ninty's given us.

Only 6 days left though, until SOMETHING gets put out there.

[Spitfire]

The only magazine I like that I was suscribed to was Tips n' Tricks because they never review games they just gave out infomation and favored every console.
Im starting to see what you mean *Looks at old Gamepros* I have been suscribed to them for like years now but I havnt really been reading the new ones I guess that's why I never noticed how baised they were

[Stryker]

I would bet Sony pays off some Magz, Just for a Good word or two and a Quotable Rave.

But i've been reading Gameinformer and theres one guy that absolutely HATES the DS and everygame that is released on it...I mean im no DS Fanboy but Warioware Warrents more than a 5.5

[Spitfire]

Oh yeah that's the other one I got 5 free issues for. Everyone featured a PS2 game and they pretty much slammed Nintendo in there too. I suscribed to a bunch of magazines and got like 4 year subcritpions a long time ago so Im still getting them now. Tips and Tricks finially ran out. I dont know if Gamepro is going to anytime soon and Game informer did finially*I got that for signing up for some site* I also got the PS2 magazine for a few issues for joined the PSM underground like 3 years ago. Anyways like I said they all hated Nintendo but Tips and Tricks

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, Gameinformer is idiotic anyway. "The DS will feature a touch screen interface" my ass. They preach total BS as though it's truth, and the trash the DS like there's no tomarrow. It really starts to get old after 6 months. Gamepro is total sh*t. They do just sit there and review nothing but PS2 and PSP games while trashing Gamecube, DS, and occationally Xbox all the while claiming they are unbiased. It's crazy. Hell EGM publishes the Official Playstation Magazine and they're more fair than that (not to say they're worth a damn either, but still, they aren't Gamepro so that's worth somethin). Hell, even the Official Playstation Magazine dosen't go into regular console bashing that much. They just cover what they cover and ignore the rest. I respect that. Gamepro does it every damn issue. Fu*k Gamepro and their unprofessional opinions.

The only things I subscribe to are Nintendo Power, and Tips and Tricks. Now NP isn't worth a sh*t and we all know it's just printed propaganda, but I've had it since the begenning and I just like to see it in my mail each month. Sorta like a security blanket or something. I just like to know it's there. Funny it took them like 17 years to change their logo. I'll kinda miss it though. Been around since the ole Nester days. Meh, anyway...Tips & Tricks pwns. They "mostly" try to be fair to all systems and they have a kickass Collector section and import game toy guide. I may know everything in it 29 days before it gets printed (or more *cough*Press sites*cough*), but it's nice for library purposes so I don't have to look it up online when I want to write something.

Magazines are for the causal public that just wants to be told what to buy. If you want almost real time news on anything that happens globaly, just look it up online, and ignore all reviews............unless I wrote it ;) :lol: :lol:

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Final Hardware Sales before E3.


Industry // Media Create Hardware Sales: 25 Apr - 1 May 11:55
platform this week last week 2005 total LTD
1 Nintendo DS 64,247 96,191 739,557 2,236,253
2 PlayStation 2 40,471 33,080 828,824
3 PSP 38,778 33,004 796,654 1,268,906
4 GameBoy Advance SP 14,616 10,820 280,128 5,275,090
5 GameCube 6,125 8,329 99,574
6 Gameboy Advance 448 422 9,594
7 Xbox 271 112 6,360

Source: Media Create

SOURCE: GAME-SCIENCE.COM

And the DS finally tops the PS2 in Japan making it the dominant system this week. This brings Nintendogs total sales to an amazing 250,000 FOR ONLY TWO WEEKS IN STORES. Ladies and gentlemen, we have the next Pokemon on our hands. We can call it Poochymon: Gotta breed 'Em All!

[Duke]

I highly doubt it'll cost more then $50 a month for a handful of 3rd party titles, especially when they see that gamers arn't buying their pay-to-play online games. If Nintendo's providing a free infrastructure for them to use at no cost, and Nintendo's made this known to us, why would they try to rip us off?50 a month? Where did you get that figure? X-box Live costs 50 a year.

[Kid Icarus]

Hm... my brain obviously dosen't work too well that early in the morning ;). My mistake.

Still, I highly doubt anyone's going to charge for online content if they don't have to provide the servers and the network. I could see some MMORPG having a minimal fee, because people expect those to keep growing with time, but for your typical SOCOM or Madden title, hell even Super Smash Bros, I think it'd be pointless to charge someone for something you won't need to put work into any more.

[GK]

That's awesome the DS is doing so well in Japan. Is there any news on FF3 DS? (i haven't been following any news lately, I'm a bad gamer :( )

[Kid Icarus]

Heh, this close to E3 I'm amazed there's any news at all. I'm sure we'll see it at the big show though... and TMB gets to see it first hand. They might even have a demo up for it.

EDIT: Interesting poll at nintendo.com, regarding online games and such. You can find ithere (http://www.nintendo.com/user_survey/online.jsp?entry=) .

The questions are really direct and to the point too, unlike most of Nintendos past polls, which leads me to believe they're actually taking what us gamers want into consideration. :-O.

[Mecha Cow]

That survey is pretty interesting. They're definately up to something.

[Kid Icarus]

PERRIN KAPLAN UNVIELS REVOLUTION INFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=6255

Here's a quote for people too lazy to venture over there...

"Perrin Kaplan drops some tiny details on Revolution the night of the Xbox 360 reveal.

By now, everyone knows just about everything there is to know about Xbox 360. Nintendo, on the other hand, has kept a fairly tight lid on the details of their next console, codenamed Revolution. All that has been known until now is that it will feature wireless connectivity, similar to the Nintendo DS.

Today, Perrin Kaplan (Nintendo's Vice President of Corporate Affairs) has divulged some info about Revolution to The New York Times. The article is mostly about Xbox 360, but Kaplan did give some interesting information on two facets of Revolution, including it's size, described as horizontal, and no taller than three stacked DVD cases. That's pretty small, but why use DVD cases as a frame of reference? The answer will make many Nintendo fans quite happy.

Unlike GameCube, the new system will play DVD's, Ms. Kaplan said, and will feature a wireless controller. It will play GameCube games as well as a new class of high-definition games, with new emphasis on online play.

Gamers, rejoice. " - Planet Gamecube.

Wireless controllers, standard. DVD, possibly HD-DVD or Blu-Ray, playback. New emphasis on online play. No taller then 3 stacked DVD cases. Nintendo, you've just given me the biggest nerdgasm EVAR!!!1!!!!11ONESHIFTONE!!1

[Stryker]

Cool DVD playability. still though the selling to the mainstream and not just to the Regardless Nintendo buyers really is about the design of the thing itself.

The Xbox 360 is a sexy Machine and if Nintendo releases a Big Purple Blob, Sure you'll all buy it but the Facist person who wants to look stylish will think thrice about it.

[Mecha Cow]

I can't say I personally care about the DVD thing, but I know plenty of people that would, and if it helps sell more units, than good.

And it's good to know Nintendo is finally taking online gaming seriously. Can't wait 'till E³. :)

[Kid Icarus]

Stryker, I don't think we have to worry about it being ugly... the DS is a damn sexy machine, and Reggie's bet a night of free drinks to the media that the Revolution's gonna be sexy too.

Mecha, Yeah, I understand where you're comming from with that. Still, not having DVD playback hurt Gamecube more then it helped. Revolution has to go point to point with Xbox360 and PS3, and then some, if it's going to be a success. That, and there's no reason my Nintendo console shoulden't do everything the competitions can. We're seeing the return of the SNES era Nintendo now, where if the other people in the market do something, Nintendo will do it cheaper and better.

[Demented Utrom]

DVD playback, that is how I wrecked my first PS2 by playing DVDs, on it.
I rather use game consoles, strictly for games, anything else makes them get Disc Read Errors.
Revolution, allows Gamecube discs, to be played on it.
Xbox 360, will have a head start on the other 2 consoles.
The other 2 consoles, don't come out till next year.
Revolution, is supposed to be shown next week at E3.

Just gameplay footage, not the actual machine, since Nintendo, likes to keep their stuff secret.

[Mecha Cow]

Why did you decide to come back here if you're not going to add anything to the thread? You're just stating the obvious as always.

[Anarky]

Please do not insult Demented utrom, infact, don't insult anybody. I mean, maybe he has some sort of dyslexia or something. You never know.

Plus, I know that his feelings are hurt.

[Kid Icarus]

DU- Nice to see ya back! I doubt Nintendo would release a product where it's drive gets shot easily... keep in mind their core usebase 12-25, and how many 12 year olds do you know that actually put effort into keeping their systems running well? We'll find out in less then a week ;).

More details have just been put out. Apparently now the system not only will be as tall as 3 DVD cases stacked, but feature the same length and depth. That's damn tiny if the specs TMB posted are true. This also means the casing is going to be sleek, and dare I say it... sexy? o.O

It will also feature a self-loading media bay, much like what Apple Computers uses in their laptops and Mac Mini. Because of this, the console can be stood on its side (ala PS2 and Xbox360).

It appears Nintendo was just waiting for MS or Sony to make a move first. I have no doubt in my mind that we'll see exactaly what the Revolution is in couple days.

[Mecha Cow]

Please do not insult Demented utrom, infact, don't insult anybody.
It was not meant as an insult, I apologize if Utrom or anyone else took offense. My point still stands though.

[Demented Utrom]

Romoured Zelda 2005, Title.Legend of Zelda Twlight Princess, it sounds made up to me.Hopefully this is not the official name, for the game.

Well we find out at E3 the official title.

[Mecha Cow]

Yup, I saw that too, but TSA (http://www.zhq2.com/main.htm) said it was a fake. Didn't sound too convincing anyway.

[Kid Icarus]

Zelda =! Sailor Moon.

Pokemon XD has it's own site now... and I'm rather dissapointed with the character art. And there's some sort of Dark Lugia. It looks stupid. And you start with an Eevee? *shakes head*. Nintendo, you OLMOST had this game right... so close.

[Mecha Cow]

Yeah, I totally agree. I don't like how they're trying (and failing) to turn Pokemon into some Final Fantasy reject.

I mean, they gotta know everyone wants a full 3D Pokemon game in the style of the 2D games...So why won't they make one? :cry:

[ThirdMarioBro]

Okay, let's re-confirm all of this stuf. ALL of this is true. Nintendo knows that HD-DVD movies are gonna turn into a 21st century Beta Max (movie wise, not data storage wise), but they're prepared if it dosen't. Oh, and it's got DVD playback COFIRMED. The system will use proprietary discs for games, DVD's for movies, and Gamecube discs for backwards compatability.
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"Unlike GameCube, the new system will play DVDs... It will play GameCube games as well as a new class of high-definition games," said Nintendo's Perrin Kaplan, speaking to the New York Times.

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They ARE going to show it. I have no doubt whatsoever. I think they're going to do more that just show it too. Whatever happens, i'l be there to tell you.

[Deathknight]

I pray for a smash bros 3 on Revolution with Internet support. That would be so awesome. I'm also wondering if the Gamecube Freeloader will let you play Revolution imports.

[ThirdMarioBro]

No, they're based on completely different hardware designs. The gamecube hardware is most likely emulated inside the system seeing as it's so f***ing powerful. Smash Bros 3 is also rumored to be in development form not so disbelieveable sources. Either way, we'll know day after tomarrow.

[Mecha Cow]

They'd have to be crazy not to make another Smash Bros. game.

I sure hope they do anyway, I've grown really tired of SSBM after playing it for three years.

[Deathknight]

I haven't grown tired of Melee, just having a lack of opponents in it.

[Kid Icarus]

SPOILERS! TMB, you might wanna avoid reading the SPOILER 'cause... yeah.

ign.com has a pic from the Nintendo booth. Neon lights spell out Club Revolution. Guys, Revolution will not only be at E3... but will be playable.

[Demented Utrom]

Well Sony and Mircosoft, anounced their next consoles.

I think the game demo for revolution, is going be Zelda working title since Nintendo won't reveal their revolution, games yet.

Nintendo was going to wait till the Toyko game show, in August to show revolution.

So Everybody is revealing their consoles, this E3.

Smart move by Nintendo, for once.

Which console, is the most powerful engine wise.

It depends if the Revolution games, have been worked on yet.

They waited till after to show theirs, on the next day to.

Sony and Mircosoft, would steal Nintendo's ideas if they revealed their machine, first.

[Kid Icarus]

If the Revolution truely is revolutionairy, they're going to have to not only SHOW what's so big about it, but let people EXPERIANCE that factor as well.Now that MS and Sony have shown all, Nintendo dosen't have to worry about them copying their ideas.

[ThirdMarioBro]

SPOILERS! TMB, you might wanna avoid reading the SPOILER 'cause... yeah.

ign.com has a pic from the Nintendo booth. Neon lights spell out Revolution Lounge. Guy, Revolution will not only be at E3... but will be playable.

HOLY FU*KING SH*T!!!! I GET TO PLA IT!?!?11

Oh god, I sound like a n00b......Who cares.

ROFLOLOLWTFLOLOL!!!!11!!!!

[ThirdMarioBro]

Anyways, back to regular buisness.
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Nintendo Sees Net Profit Double May 26, 2005

by: Eric Topf

However, forecasters predict Nintendo's outlook to drop in the upcoming next-generation battle.

Nintendo Co. announced their fiscal earnings for the year earlier today, and the numbers show that the company's net profit more than doubled in the year leading up to March thanks to foreign exchange gains.

Nintendo's net profit went up to 87.42 billion yen ($812 million dollars) as recurring profit rose 189.8 percent to 145.29 billion yen. However, sales grew a marginal 0.1 percent to 515.29 billion yen. Nintendo stated that these earnings were due to a boost of 21.8 billion yen by foreign exchange gains as well as strong sales of the Nintendo DS hardware.

The Nintendo DS which launched late last year here in North America and Japan has sold to date about 5.27 million units. In comparison, Sony has shipped about 2.97 million Playstation Portables which was launched late last year in Japan and here in North America in March. Nintendo states that they expect to sell around 12.4 million units of the DS for this fiscal year.

Their fiscal outlook for the future however is not so bright. Nintendo has forecasted that their annual profit will drop about 14 percent due to a stronger yen and rising competition.

The Kyoto based company said in their statements that Net Income will probably drop to 75 billion yen ($694 million) in the year started April 1, from 87.4 billion yen last fiscal year. Sales on the other hand will rise 0.9 percent to 520 billion yen.

According to Bloomberg, Nintendo, which held cash deposits of about $5.17 billion, suffers when the monetary value of the yen increases. This in turn leads to a decline in the value of the company's vast amount of overseas assets.

Scott McGlashan, a London-based fund manager at J O Hambro Capital Management Ltd., which manages more than $2 billion, gave a bleak outlook on the thinking of Nintendo's higher management. "The problem with Nintendo is that they have so much cash on the balance sheet that the management has become complacent. Sony and Microsoft will dominate the games industry."

Despite all this, operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and administrative expenses, for this fiscal year is expected to rise 3.1 percent to 115 billion yen from 111.5 billion yen because of lower costs, the company said. "We expect manufacturing costs to come down as we make more game hardware", such as the Nintendo DS, Yoshihiro Mori, Nintendo's senior managing director, said at a press conference in Osaka.

In regards to their fiscal fourth quarter, For the three months ended March 31, net income was 19.7 billion yen, compared with a 1.35 billion yen loss a year before. Bloomberg calculated these results by subtracting nine-months figures from the full-year data reported today. The quarterly profit gain was helped by sales of Nintendo DS as well as the weak yen, according to Mori.

It is clear that Nintendo's financial status is currently driven by their handhelds. Tim Bajarin, an analyst with market researcher Creative Strategies Inc. in Campbell, California stated how the handheld market has aided both Nintendo and now, Sony. "Sony and Nintendo bring something to the table Microsoft can't offer, which is in the portable gaming devices." Tim also stated that Nintendo is going to have to "create excellent innovative games for the older market."

Nintendo has at least acknowledged recently that new ideas must be found in order to compete in a market that is becoming more and more saturated. As Nintendo's Mori said, "Our industry changes very quickly, and the risk is high. We need to continually come up with new ideas."

Keep with Advanced Media for continuing news coverage on Nintendo's financial status as we head into the new fiscal year.

source: AFP
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Same ole, same ole. Meh, everyone's profits plunge at the start of a generation. Costs of production and all. I'm not worried. And Nintend is not complacient anymore. That's just old news that analysists are expected to say.

And so the post E3 news drought begins....

[Ryona]

*creeps in*

Hi, guys. I know I kinda don't belong in here, but I noticed ThirdMarioBro's sig, and I was like, "Whoa! That's a cool looking Nintendo!" :o

Anyway, I'm hoping that someone can give me a bit of info on what that system is exactly. :D

[Kid Icarus]

The actual system is the Nintendo Revolution, that someone photoshopped to look like an NES. I personaly would cream myself if Nintendo made that a launch only design, and you could bet your ass I'd have it reserved in the time it'd take Peach to get kidnapped.

What exactaly is the Revolution though? Good question. We don't know. We know it's going to be a powerful little sucker, we know it'll play standard sized disc media along with Gamecube discs, it can use Gamecube controlers and memory cards as well as it's own internal 512mb of flash memory and wireless controlers. It has built in 802.11g WiFi (which I know own a router for. Give me some games now, Nintendo), and IBM and ATI are making the chipsets for it.

Oh, and it's going to launch with an online version of Super Smash Bros.... and Nintendos online play is FREE. We're so going to have to plan some tournament or something on the Drome for that game.... maybe even a Drome guild for online Nintendo games, so we can have mass-chopping of peoples trees in Animal Crossing.

[ThirdMarioBro]

RAID THE AXES!!!!


*ahem*

Anyway, Revolution is supposedly going to be able to bring in revolutionary new control methods and still be able to house every Nintendo title from 1981-now with the online service. That means the controller will be new, but not completely different. That's reassuring.

The thing will also let us download classic titles on Nintendo's internet service (can't get used to saying that quite yet), as well as add-on for new titles such as expansion packs (new levels, new race tracks ect). Hell, we may be able to even get new level sets for classic titles. I'd die for that.

Anyway, it's already a must own just based on the little bit of info we know now. Just wait til the BIG news comes this fall. Final specs won't be announced until Sony locks down theirs, but you can expect it to be as powerful as the other two. Nintendo's engneers are masters of balancing hardware power with cost.

Oh, and Ryo, that is just a photoshop job a friend of mine did. This is the real sexy beast.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/igncubes-nintendo-revolution-faq-20050525023042629.jpg

Ohh laa laa. Now that looks sexy. Xbox360 looks good too, but PS3 looks like a refridgerator with a deformed analog controlled penis attached to the controller ports......or a cheap third party controller. I guarntee it'll get a redesign, and I guarntee they'll just go back to Dual Shock 3.

Also, I think NIntendo's flash memory is a far better idea than Xbox360's Hard drives. Flash Memory is a tad less expensive, plus it's a permanant large scale form of storage and dosen't run the risk of erasure. Plus, it's just as expandable. When the 8GB models come out we're going to have a really expandable piece of hardware that also damn durable, but still sexy looking and futureistic is design. Also, Nintendo caved in and added USB 2.0 ports for add-ons. Most likely for third party's to use for something. Good idea though.

All in all, this is looking to be a kickass system.

[Ryona]

Ooh! That still looks nice! Yes, very sexy. :D

Sounds really impressive too. Thanks for the info, Gwgtrunks and ThirdMarioBro! :)

[Peanut]

Even with the little we've seen for it, I want Revolution the most. Just the thought of a new SSB and an Animal Crossing is enough to get me excited. Plus the addition of downloadable games...hot damn. It also looks the best out of all three consoles.

[Anarky]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/nesrev4ow30wv.jpg

That is hopefully not a fake. Tell me that this is real, please...

[Kid Icarus]

Sadly, it's a fake.

But the reaction to that design on message boards, that we KNOW Reggie Fils-Aime checks on a regular basis, has been HUGE for that to be one of the color scheme options. Reggie and Iwata have totally changed the way Nintendo works. Instead of telling us we want an Indigo cube, they're giving us a dead sexy beast of hardware with access to their back library of games.

Has anyone considered the plusses to that though? No more Mario Advance line, no more 'updated' ports of classic games.

Sorry about the rambling on and what not... I'm waiting for the computer store to call me back with confirmation on my loan, so I can go pick up my new copy. *twitch*.

[Ryona]

I feel the same way, Anarky.

It's a beautiful design. *nods*

[Anarky]

Sadly, it's a fake.

Argh, why you... ??? Why did you have to say that... I hope your GameBoy falls to the ground! You, you... meanie. :D

But this design would be so far beyond awesome. Damn... just imagine that thing in your living room...

[ThirdMarioBro]

Haha, yeah. It always worked in the past.

Hell, I wouln't put it past them to make that one of the colors they launch with. Even if they didn't, that'd be an easy Mod to do....

Still, with Iwata and Reggie at the helm, you can never be too sure just what they might do :D

Glad to hear everyone likes it so much becuase I'm going to kill you all in the new online SSBM:D

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, goodbye Ubisoft. It's been fun...
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Ubisoft Acquisition May Be Near May 27, 2005

by: Eric Topf

The CEO remarks that the company is talking to many potential suitors, including Electronic Arts.

Ubisoft Company Chairman and CEO Yves Guillemot told Reuters that his company, Ubisoft, the second largest European videogame publisher is in takeover talks with several parties and does not rule out being bought out entirely by U.S. rival Electronic Arts if the price is high enough.

Guillemot made his remarks to the the Reuters Telecoms, Media and Technology Summit on Thursday. Stating that "We are speaking with third parties that are interested either to merge (or to invest in the company). If someone comes with a very good offer, that will be very interesting ... I'm going to consider it. We're not going to sell the company for less than we think it's worth. Our turnover is very good. We see our market share improving, so there's no rush to sell" He added that several chinese companies were being considered as well.

Ubisoft, best known for their Splinter Cell and Prince of Persia series has been speculated upon by analysts for a takeover ever since EA bought nearly 20 percent of the company back in December 2004. Guillemot however, saw the move as hostile and had planned a defense against a potential bid. He also stated that Ubisoft and EA haven't been talking as of late. "That tactical 20 percent does not help. It's a very bad start. It would be wrong to go with the first guy who wants to buy the company."

Electronic Arts still remains Ubisoft's largest shareholder, even passing Ubisoft's founders, the Guillemot brothers who together own 17.5 percent. However, the brothers still control 22.8 percent of the voting rights ahead of EA's 18.4 percent.

Advanced Media will be closely following the situation with Ubisoft as it unfolds, so please check back for more news as it develops.

Source: GCA

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Does anyone notice what's happening here? The gaming industry is settling into a position like the movie industry did at about this point. Now that it's a $12 billion a year thing, companies are merging and taking over each over and basically setting up the Paramounts, 20th century's, and Warner Bros of the future.

What this means is creatiity is going to go to hell minus a VERY select few companies. With Ubisoft going, Namco merging with Bandi, EA buying everything, and Sega....well, you know, all smaller companies are being sucked up. That means that small development houses will have NO options concerning publishers, and just like movie studios, gaming publishers will begin making edits of thier own to the games bacause there isn't a damn thing the developer can do because there's no where else to go.

Gaming genres are about to become set into stone by the men in suits. This is what Nintendo meant when they said that there were a set amount of genres that existed, and that the industry was becoming stuck in that unless people could quickly work to innovate and create new genres and ideas to keep things freash when this happened.

They saw it coming a long time ago. Here we are. Action, Adventure, Sports, Racing, RPG, MMO, FPS, FPA, Sim, ect. Without smaller developers to keep options open, where will the new ideas come from?

Also, if Microsoft buys them, there goes another loyal Nitnendo publisher, but I'm expecting them to merge witha larger third party other than EA. Still, the odds aren't loking good for this working out well. We have Capcom, Namco, Sega and gained Square for Revolution's launch, but may loose Ubisoft, and Ubisoft cranks out games at a rate second only to EA, only they're actually good at what they do.

[Ai]

There's also the chance of newer, smaller companies with better ideas than the "men in suits" companies coming into the fray and creating games that people will love. You can't predict the future, and I say the future of gaming is still bright. Maybe someone should have some patience and see how it turns out. I've been buying less and less games as of late, but maybe that'll change by next year. I'm hoping for the best, and everyone should, too.

Feel free to disagree and whatnot.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Good point. I've actually been buying more as of late, and a lot of them have been third party. Maybe it'll all work out.

[Ai]

I'd love to buy some games that I've been eyeing up. I still haven't bought RE4, Suikoden IV, and Xenosaga Episode II. It makes me sad to be unable to play them. DS and PSP are also on the buy list. I need money so bad.

[Barkworm]

Aren't Suikoden IV and Xenosaga II supposed to be rather sh*tty? If you're looking for good RPGs, I heard "Shadow Hearts: Covenant" is great. And the new Grandia and Dragonquest VIII look fantastic too.

[Ai]

I know they're bad, but I have to play them. I've been a fan of the Xenogears/Xenosaga and Suikoden series for a long time now, and it just doesn't feel the same not playing them. Kind of like the Final Fantasy games. I know they're not going to be good, but I play them, anyway.

[Barkworm]

*slaps Ai*
FF is always great, shut up and hide in your room.

[Kid Icarus]

Ai has a point there TMB... There's EASILY 20 DS games alone that I want that come out just this year. Add in some GBA games, and some Gamecube games (Zelda, Mario Strikers, DDR:Mario Mix, Fire Emblem), and suddnely this year I've spent more on gaming them I have in the past ten.

And then we have the Revolution with more DS and GBA lovin' comming next year... Thing is though, other then the DS games, most of the titles I'm looking forward to come from Nintendo. For some reason, third parties are really getting the DS's approach. Even EA's putting the features to good use. And, hopefuly Nintendo's free online plan works out well. It might force Sony and Microsoft to change their online stuff up.

I see it this way: I don't like what's going on with the majority of mainstream gaming, much like I don't like most of the mainstream music today. Sure, I might have to dig deeper to find what I want, but when I DO find something worthwhile, it makes it that much better of a find.

[Peanut]

As long as no one f*cks with my PoP series, I'm good.

[Barkworm]

I think the PoP series has already been f*cked with too much. The videos from the new game are great and stuff, but nothing beats the atmosphere of "Sands".

[Ai]

I do enjoy the combat that's shaping up to be in the newest one, and they seem to be attempting to combine Sands of Time and Warrior Within to form a game that has the best of both worlds. I say patience. If it sucks, then you can tack that up as a bad game.

[Peanut]

Barky, I have total confidence in this one. Did you watch the live interview Gamespot had? They mentioned they know how much people loved the atmosphere of SoT, so they're going back to it, but keeping the more "realistic" approach they used in WW. They brought back the bloom lighting, which rocks my f*cking socks!

[Kid Icarus]

I've never touched the PoP games, but I might have to try the first one out soon... are they really as good as people keep saying they are?

If the games acrobatics are half as fun as I-Ninjas, I'll be hooked.

[Peanut]

I've never touched the PoP games, but I might have to try the first one out soon... are they really as good as people keep saying they are?

If the games acrobatics are half as fun as I-Ninjas, I'll be hooked.

Yes, they ARE that fun. The environment puzzles are the greatest. I can play that game over and over. It's awesome.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Perhaps I misjudged the Prince a little early. I'll give it a shot.

*edit*

Well I'll be damned...

Next-Generation Survey

May 30, 2005

Famitsu finds out what next-generation console Japanese gamers are most interested in.
A new survey published by Famitsu has found out what next-generation console Japanese gamers are most interested in, and why they like the next-generation consoles from Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony.

The survey found that 42.2% of Japanese gamers are most interested in the Nintendo Revoluton, with the PlayStation 3 coming in close behind with 39.8% of Japanese gamers being most interested in Sony's next-generation console. Only 18.0% of Japanese gamers said they were most interested in Microsoft's Xbox 360.

Japanese gamers said that they look forward to Revolution because of its compact, innovative design, Japanese gamers look forward to the Xbox 360 for its developer support, and technology. Japanese gamers also look forward the PlayStation 3 for its technology, including its Cell processor and use of Blu-ray. Japanese gamers also like the backwards compatibility of all three next-generation consoles.

The Japanese sales arena looks to be interesting. We'll keep you updated.

source: Famitsu
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Yes, that machine is THAT sexy. :lol: It beat out PS3...or should I say the refridgerator :lol:

[Barkworm]

"Sands of Time" is easily this generation's best platformer without actually being one.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Dude, those are big words....Now I gotta try it.

[Barkworm]

I stand by it. The combat is a litle dull, the sound of the GC version sucks and the game is too short but the platforming... incredible.

[Peanut]

"Sands of Time" is easily this generation's best platformer without actually being one.

I concur with Barky. He speaks nothing but truth!

[Kid Icarus]

Last time I checked on it, Rev was winning on EA's site as well.

However, I doubt these polls are going to hold up with sales.... I hope they do, but realisticly I just don't see it.

[Spitfire]

*waits and waits and waits* Blah all the good DS games dont come out until after my birthday <_< I saw the new Star Wars game for DS and it was 40 bucks whats up with the price increase? The other two DS games I bought were only 30

[Barkworm]

Has anyone heard that rumour that Ninty will release Revolution at the END of 2006? If that's true they're probably aiming for a completely different audience than Microsoft and Sony. Or they lost their mind but I hope that's not it. I'm still very excited about the controller.

I concur with Barky. He speaks nothing but truth!I think I'm going to start my own religion. It's called "Barkworm butt kissers" and Peanut is my first bitch. Feel honoured, young one!

[Ai]

Didn't hear anything about that. I've been out of it since E3. That's quite a long wait. I mean, it's only Spring 2005. Ugh, that'd kill me.

And where do I sign up? ;)

[Barkworm]

Right here, right here. You'll be subordinate to Peanut now (let me see, lower than "bitch"... I'm not sure) but I guess that's nothing new for you. :lol:

[Ai]

Oh, that was a low blow. I'm gonna go cry myself to sleep now. :cry:

2,400 posts? Oh yeah.

[Dinny]

Has anyone heard that rumour that Ninty will release Revolution at the END of 2006?

Yeah I heard that too, Nintendo have apparently stated that they're probably going to release it in the USA first in late 2006, followed shortly after by Japan, and then an early 2007 Europe release, much like their DS handheld's release. That's ****ed up.

Source:http://cube.ign.com/articles/620/620609p1.html?fromint=1

Mind you it's IGN, they're always saying **** like this.

[Kid Icarus]

Nintendo never said that... someone claiming to be an insider from Nintendo told some reporter that, and they're claiming it's true.

If the Revolution really DOES give us a totally new (and hopefuly extremely fun) way to play games, and totally new games along with it, it dosen't really matter when they launch.

I also don't care. As of now, there is one game I'm interested in on either Sony or Microsoft's new machines, and the sad thing is... that game started off as a PSX game, moved to N64, moved to Gamecube, and more then likely won't see the light of day for a few more years knowing the studios development cycles. The Revolution's sold to me just for the fact that I don't have to go buy an NES, or hunt down old SNES games, anymore. Even if they charge a buck or two to download them... that's a damn fine deal.


Oh, and if anyone's looking to get a wireless router cheap, you can find a Belkin 802.11g wifi certified router at walmart for about 40 bucks. You get four ethernet ports on it as well, so you don't have to invest in wireless cards. I've had the puppy running for a few days now, no problems so far. All that's left is some online DS titles, and I'm set.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Nintendo's not crazy. All this gen they've said they "will not be late for the party next time". I believe them. Rev will launch on time, It's competing both for a new market, the current market, and to regain the original market with it's download features. It covers many bases.

And yes, those polls may not hold up in sales, but it does show that they're fans are still stong which means regardless or market position (which really dosen't make a sh*t anyway), they'll still be healthy and well in the next gen. That's all that matters along with the new experiences they bring us.

Also, that EA poll is a damn wierd thing. I don't know why they are winning on an EA poll of all things, but it just goes to prove one thing. Nintendo knows how to fuel the hype machine better than anyone else and it's paying off. Perhaps this poll is to see where EA should put it's games next gen based on public intrest. You never know.

What positions are left in the Barkworm cult? Sign me up. :lol:

[Dinny]

I don't know why they are winning on an EA poll of all things, but it just goes to prove one thing. Nintendo knows how to fuel the hype machine better than anyone else and it's paying off.

Do you really believe that Nintendo can get more hype going than Sony? Most of my friends are non-gamers, and all they can talk about is PS3. They say **** like "I'm gonna buy the PS3 because it has better graphics than the others, just like the PS2 this generation." Then I try explain to them that the PS2 has marginally better graphics than the old 8-bit games, AND YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THOSE ON THE REV!!!
It's not just retards, it's the media too, they're already talking about "The Big 2: Microsoft and Sony Square Off" and Nintendo gets one sentence dedicated to them in the last paragraph of every article, which simply states,"Nintendo's new console is set to debut soon after Sony's PS3". Many people who saw Nintendo's speech agree that the Revolution news was the most exciting, yet they still don't get anywhere near as much media attention as Microsoft or Sony.

[Kid Icarus]

Well, Dinny, that's more then likely because Sony and Microsoft have shown their hands. Nintendo hasn't. The only thing we've seen of a Revolution game is about three seconds of Metroid Prime 3.

Nintendo's put the Rev in a unique position. It's not competiting with the others, but it is. If it's really capable of making and playing games as diffrently as Nintendo's saying, and if developers deliver on those game ideas, it dosen't really matter what Sony and Microsoft have out there.

It's like Pepsi, Coke, and Gatorade. Pepsi and Coke offer the same product lineup with minimal diffrences between the two outside of a diffrent look and diffrent company. Gatorade offers something entirely diffrent, and while it's competiting with Coke and Pepsi, it's not.

[ThirdMarioBro]

That's the best explanation I've heard. *claps*

[Ai]

Nintendo is in a total different market, it's true. They really don't have much to worry about, because the fans of whack ass backwards games that come from Nintendo will buy the system whether it's good or not. I really don't see the so-called "Sony and Microsoft" fans buying this console, because it just isn't appealing to their needs enough. But you know, we've been saying this over and over and over again, so there's no real need to say it again. No one's going anywhere, and I look forward to what each company has to offer.

[Kid Icarus]

Here's an interesting Revolution/DS connectivity idea...

We know the Rev has 802.11g built in, and the DS has 802.11b, so they can network together. Now, what if you can download those NES/SNES/N64 games onto the internal memory on the DS, and when you need to turn the system off, you fold it over and put it in sleep mode. Granted, some N64 games won't fit in the 4MB of memory the system offers up, but it should work.

And, if you add in the Play-Yan adapter for the GBA slot, who's to say you can't move your saved games from the Revolution over to the DS that way? Suddenly you have the entire SNES library portable. Forget EA's Goldeneye, you can play the real on over the internet against anyone on the network.

I think this would have HUGE results for Nintendo.

[Dinny]

And, if you add in the Play-Yan adapter for the GBA slot, who's to say you can't move your saved games from the Revolution over to the DS that way? Suddenly you have the entire SNES library portable. Forget EA's Goldeneye, you can play the real on over the internet against anyone on the network.

Even my moronic friends would by a DS and a Revolution for that. Excellent idea.

[ThirdMarioBro]

That's freaking genius and would be an excellent thing to do.

1. It'd be the end of bad ports (DKC anyone?) because we'd be playing the real thing for once and...

2. Who wouldn't by a DS for cheap access to the whole SNES library? Hell, portable Chrono Trigger, Mario All_Stars, and the REAL DKC titles would be enough to keep me busy for life on that thing.

With that taken care of, Nintendo could focus on new titles instead of ports making everyone happy and giving us access to a hell of a lot of games. Add producing new content for the classic (new levels to SMB 3 and such) and you've got the greatest idea of all time.

They could also release some sort of flash card to store the games on your DS. Perhaps this is why Nintendo has been so hard on Emulation.

[Peanut]

Hardware Numbers Japan

NDS 39,687
PS2 35,143
PSP 21,996
GBA SP 10,103
GCN 2,512
GBA 235
Xbox 161

Total for the Nintendo DS is 2,400,094.
Total for the Sony PSP is 1,374,443.


Hehehehe.

[Ai]

Those numbers don't mean a damn thing, though, since DS and PSP are so different. ;)

[ThirdMarioBro]

True, I don't care if Sony has some suscess. That's fine. But as long as Nintendo is in first, I am obligated by the Nintendo fanboy code of death to say ...

pwned. ;)

I must say that or they'll send a hit man to my house to cut off my thumbs or something :lol:

[Deathknight]

Well, there was a famicom to GBA adaptor released in Japan. Don't know how well it did but that could have some effect on if such an idea is considered. Personally, I think that's not really the best thing to judge due to the fact that the screen wasn't scaled to fit the NES games and NES carts are hardly portable but none the less it'll probably be considered. I have PocketNES on my GBA flashcart, makes me very happy but portable SNES and N64 with Internet support would be the best.

[Peanut]

Why have I not been informed about THIS (http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/aboyandhisblob/index.html)!?!

That game f*cking rocked so hard! This has jumped so high up on my DS want list. DAMN!

[ThirdMarioBro]

HOLY SH*T I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS!!!!

sold

[Kid Icarus]

Well, there was a famicom to GBA adaptor released in Japan. Don't know how well it did but that could have some effect on if such an idea is considered. Personally, I think that's not really the best thing to judge due to the fact that the screen wasn't scaled to fit the NES games and NES carts are hardly portable but none the less it'll probably be considered. I have PocketNES on my GBA flashcart, makes me very happy but portable SNES and N64 with Internet support would be the best.
I'm 98% positive that wasn't an official product. I'd say the Classic series is a better example for Nintendo to use, and that did insanely well in Japan.

Another thing with converter things is that you have to buy a lot of equipment. The only things you'd need are a Revolution, DS, wireless router, and an internect connection. Most people have at least 2 of those so far, so the cost of gaining access to older games would be less then what you'd pay trying to hunt them down in used stores (I've seen Super Mario RPG and Secret of Mana going for over $60 here). It'd be crazy.....

[Mecha Cow]

Bad Sony (http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=36063&subsectionid=1585) and bad Microsoft (http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=35906&subsectionid=1586), indeed. Lame.

Looks like people have no more right to give Nintendo a hard time for not showing any Revolution footage.

[Ai]

Now that's just stupid. What the hell was the point of E3, then?

[Peanut]

E3 was worthless this year, and those articles just prove it.

[Ai]

There was no point. No Mario 128, no Revolution controller, fake videos, and Microsoft uses f*cking Macs. Why'd it even take place? I'm pissed as hell.

[Anarky]

There was no point. No Mario 128, no Revolution controller, fake videos, and Microsoft uses f*cking Macs. Why'd it even take place? I'm pissed as hell.

Hahaha... I just got the fact that Mircosofr (Note: PC and Windows) uses Apple (Mac). Well, what does that tell us?

[Peanut]

That Microsoft used two high end Mac machines, because the Xbox360 technology is similar to it?

[Ai]

Microsoft using Apple technology. Something's up. Oh yeah, way up.

[Kid Icarus]

Yeah, because we all know they didn't develop Windows on an Apple... no... :roll: .

That Sony bit just made me bust a nut though...

Funny Zelda commercial: http://www.evilsponge.com/zelda/z3dance.wmv

[Ai]

Plenty of people don't know that. But the fact is Apple computers were the only decent computers out there to develop an operating system. Windows and whatever the hell Macs use now are so different in coding, it's ridiculous. Microsoft and Apple cut their ties a long time ago. It's just puzzling.

[Kid Icarus]

From interviews I've read, Microsoft tends to put features in the Mac software long before it hits the Windows version. Just look at Office 2005 on the Mac.

G5's are pretty freaking powerful though. Still, Microsoft lied and said the games were running on finished hardware. BURN THEM AT THE STAKE! *sets the bonfire*.

[Peanut]

G5's are pretty freaking powerful though. Still, Microsoft lied and said the games were running on finished hardware. BURN THEM AT THE STAKE! *sets the bonfire*.

Actually...they didn't say that. I'm pretty sure anyways.

[Ai]

I don't read up on Macs, so I wouldn't know anything about that. I'll take your word for it, though.

And I don't think anyone said they had finished products. If the consoles were done, I think they'd release them by now. I think it was all just a misunderstanding. Still, they could've said the demos shown at the Sony conference were not actual renderings, and Microsoft could've said their product wasn't finished.

[Kid Icarus]

Hehe... lighten up guys, I was kidding. I'm more interested in if developers are going to have actual games running on the hardware by the time stuff ships out. I know they've got them running on the dev kits with computers, but if it's taking 4 2.5 G5's to power an Xbox 360.... *head spins*

Anyway, now on to something new... How Trunks DS is going to make him broke as hell (aka, DS games this year I'll be buying):

June
13 -- Kirby Canvas Curse
21 -- Bomberman DS
27 -- Meteos

July
19 -- Ultimate Brain Games DS
26 -- LUNAR GENESIS DS
30 -- NANOSTRAY DS

August
01 -- Ultimate Card Games DS
16 -- PAC'N ROLL DS
22 -- Metroid Prime: Hunters DS

September
22 -- WAC A MOLE DS
26 -- Trace Memory

October
03 -- VIEWTIFUL JOE DS
03 -- CASTLEVANIA DS
09 -- Advance Wars

November
07 -- Mario Kart DS **
14 -- Electroplankton DS
14 -- Black & White Creatures DS
14 -- Bust-a-Move DS
14 -- Metroid Prime Pinball DS
15 -- Guilty Gear Dust Strikers DS
15 -- Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga 2 DS
15 -- Nintendogs: Shiba and Friends DS
15 -- Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney DS
15 -- Real Time Conflict: Shogun Empires DS
15 -- Snowboard Kids DS
15 -- Sonic Rush DS
15 -- Trauma Center: Under the Knife DS
21 -- Animal Crossing **

Damn you, Nintendo and third parties. Time to find a second job... Especially in November. Good lord, 14 games in one month that I want. >_<.

[Deathknight]

Yet no news of a Smash Bros DS. Oh well, at least we're getting a Smash Bros on Revolution.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Oh My Fuc*ing God.

Well, E3 was a load of sh*t.

NO one can ever accuse Nintendo's 2005 E3 pressence as being sh*t simply because they're the only ones who gave us real facts. Sony 7 Microsoft blew bullsh*t at us with fake consoles and officially fake videos.

Sorry, Gotta say it..

PWNED! :lol: :lol:

That's why people shouldn't question my blind faith :D

[Ai]

We're fighting in real life, TMB. :D

[ThirdMarioBro]

I just bought Final Fantasy VI/III for SNES in mint condition. I want to play it now. I know people say it's the best one, but who here has played it and how good is it really?

[Barkworm]

It's not necessarily the best Final Fantasy but it's absolutely incredible anyway. It's also one of the very best SNES games and that's saying a lot. I can't believe you haven't played it yet.

[Deathknight]

Never played FF3 for SNES but my favorite out of what I've played is the original. Whatever happend to the real FF3 coming out for DS anyway?

[Ai]

Oh man, FFVI is unbelievable. It's up there right next to FFVII. And FFIII is still coming out for DS. Patience!

[Deathknight]

Had no doubt that it wasn't but I just haven't heard anything about it and was wondering if there's any kind of release date or info about it yet. I really hope they don't destroy it like they did FF1 and 2 in Dawn of Souls.

[ThirdMarioBro]

You know, something just hit me. When Bill Gates made that comment about Nintendo being a nitch market, I just shrugged it off as just slinging mud, but now I realize something a little more behind it.

Nintendo appeals to also appeal to most hardcore gamers who play multiple systems, so in a way, it could me misunderstood that he was saying that Hardcore gamers would become a nitch market next gen. That bothers me.

Or maybe I'm just looking too far into sh*t. Meh

[Ai]

Bill Gates' opinion doesn't matter, because he's not even a part of the Xbox team. He simply collects the profit. And yeah, you do look into this too much. Video games are starting to get political and sh*t, and that's what is bringing this community down.

[ThirdMarioBro]

*hits self on head*

I worry too much. Stupid stuff anyway.

Well, now my Sega Saturn RAM cart died and I've got to resolder the mod to make it work again. What fun :roll: :lol:

*edit*

Gwg, that Zelda commercial is the one for A Link to the Past/Triforce of the Gods in Japan. I think that particular recording came the end of a Japanese Zelda history DVD that was sold on ebay for a while.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://www.n-next.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1117966071&archive=&start_from=&ucat=3&

Nintendo's first round of downloadable titles have been revealed. They will add more over time as well. Too bad I can't read the damn thing in Japanese :(

Anyways, i see Mario Bros and Smash Bros Melee. Does this mean we can also download Gamecube titles as well? Hmmmm...

We need someone who can read Japanese.

[Ai]

I'm reading it, but I'm not seeing a downloadable titles list. I'm just seeing what systems you can download, and that's in the second picture. The third picture is like, the top 10 games gamers would like to see downloadable, at least I think. My Japanese isn't that great.

[Peanut]

Someone translate this sh*t!

[Ai]

It doesn't mention anything of interest. On the second page, it says 221 games have been announced for NES, SNES, N64, and Gamecube. So yes, you can download Gamecube games, unless they change their mind or something. It breaks down like this in terms of the amount of games for each system so far:

NES: 79
SNES: 54
N64: 45
Gamecube: 43

That's a lot of games for Gamecube, and those games are gigabytes in size. Those are overnight downloads, indeed, and the hard drive is absolutely necessary. Interesting, though.

[Barkworm]

Has anyone read this: http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/03/news_6126957.html
This is really something I don't agree with at all. Games today tend to have between 10-15 hours of playtime. Sometimes more, sometimes less. That's not too bad but I for one want my games to be even longer. I don't see where Shiggy would get the idea that games are too long.

[Ai]

I like to buy games that are long. It keeps me busy for a long time. I did like old games that could be beaten in one sitting, though. I prefer long games, though. I guess Shiggy is a fan of the old skool games.

[Mecha Cow]

Maybe I missed something but I didn't see anything about him saying games are too long. In fact, the only one who mentions that is the editor. All Shiggy is saying is the usual 'Bigger is not neccesarily better'.

Whatever, you know he's just doing the typical Nintendo 'Old skool iz kool' thing again. If he really wanted games to be more arcadey in the traditional sense we'd see this reflected in Mario and Zelda.

And what is this about downloadable GameCube games on Revolution? That wouldn't make much sense at all, with, you know, the backwards compatibility...

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, if you want a long game, then buy Zelda because its supposed to clock in at 70 Hours. :D

Also, about downloadable Gamecube games. Gamecube Discs are 1.5 GB, but a 2GB Flash Card costs as much as 1 1/2 Gamecube games. NOw, Flash Cxard prices are going to drop by launch time, but I say think they should opt for what microsoft's doing and option for a removable Hard Drive as well as Flash Cards. Let the Hard Drive hold titles that are big and you want to store for constant replay, but let people use the flash cards for new content because it's a permanant source of storage and means you won't loose that content to a crash or something. If you lost the Gamecube title, big whoop. You can still get the disc and all is fixed, but if you lost new content for Mario Kart , or maybe that new level set for Mario Bros 3,, you'd have to redownload it which means more $$$.

That's why I'm against selling game online because when you loose them to the inevitable HD crash, you've gotta rebuy them. But with Flash cards, that's not a problem at all. I like NIntendo's option by going the SD route. I think prices will eventually fall low enough for them to be just as cheap and easy as a 10GB Hard Drive, but not right now. Nintendo should just make both options available and let the user choose what they want to do. BUT, if they're going to only choose one, stick with SD cards. Why the hell would anyone buy a Gamecube title online when they can have the disc anyway. It makes no snese in the end to me. Old games, yeah. Most people don't still have "working" NES's like us crazy hardcore folk. Same for SNES, and usually N64, but why Gamecube? It eats the discs, so buy the discs. They'll be the same price anyway.

Also, with this download system, remember when you played Ocarina of Time master quest on that Gamecube bounus disc? The resoultion and framerate were FAR better than the poor ole N64. It's resolution was sh*t. You know how the Playstation 2 soups up the sharpness of textures on the old titles and such? Many old N64 titles were hell to play in 4 player mode because the screens were small and the resoultion was sh*t. if they could offer better framerates, sharpened textures, and higher resolutions on all N64 titles (which makes sense), I'd redownload my whole damn collection.

Also, remember that ique N64 thing in China? They rigged many N64 titles to include online play for the Chinese audience and no one could figure out why. If they mode [i]those versions available.......Holy sh*t I'd buy every fu*king one onf them.

Do THAT, and Nintendo owns next generation PERIOD.

It's not impossible by any means.

[Ai]

They could also keep track of what you bought, and if you did lose it, you could redownload it for free. I think that would be better for the Gamecube games. And you better thank me for helping with the article! :D Ah, someone would've figured it out, anyway.

[ThirdMarioBro]

*bows to the mighty Ai*

Your knoledge of Japan never ceases to amaze me.

[Kid Icarus]

About the Famitsu article, that hasn't been confirmed. Infact, the 221 total just comes from the number of titles Nintendo's published, not games they own the rights to.

If you look at the list, there are several cancled titles on there as well. I also don't see why some of thsoe games would be rereleased, as they're currently on the market (Link to the Past, the Mario titles). There are even some games with liscenses that are going to be messy to work out (WWF/E games come to mind, along with Goldeneye).

I'm more interested in the games being free or not, and if not being low cost. There's no way in hell I'm going to pay $20 for SNES games.

[Barkworm]

Check this out: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ngc/ggtj/chibirobo.wmv (save as)
It's a new GameCube game from Nintendo. Possibly a brand new franchise?

[Kid Icarus]

Sadly that's not Nintendos game, it's a game being made by Skip and published by Bandai. Still, it looks like it'll be pretty fun.

[Barkworm]

Oh? I need to do more research before I post this kinda stuff. That's really sad, I hoped Nintendo would come up with a new franchise.

[Kid Icarus]

Nintendogs and Electroplankton should have that covered... and don't forget Pikmin. ;).

[Barkworm]

Yeah but I meant franchise as in "new copyrighted character who will appear in the next Smash Bros." franchise. I don't think Dachshund puppy will be a playable character in the new "Smash Bros" game. ;)
And Pikmin isn't even that successful, is it?

[ThirdMarioBro]

What about Trace Memory/Another? Dosen't that count as a new franchise for DS?

[Barkworm]

Oh I totally forgot about that. I hope the game is as good as it looks.

[Mecha Cow]

I want to play as Dachshund. :(

[Kid Icarus]

Pikmin's a million seller, so it's not doing too badly.

Another looks awesome. Once again, I damn my DS for having so many games comming this year that I want.

[Peanut]

I thought Pikmin did really well, actually. I wouldn't mind seeing Olimar in the next SSB. Provided they also include Tom Nook from AC. :D

[Kid Icarus]

Nook would be freaking awesome. You could throw couches and wall paper samples at people, or something.

So, if Nintendo does charge for the game downloads on Revolution, how much would everyone be willing to pay per game? What if they increased the price with the systems they're on, ie $1 for NES, $5 for SNES, and $10 for N64?

[Barkworm]

I wouldn't pay more than 5 bucks for a N64 game but different prices for different systems sounds good to me.

[Peanut]

I wouldn't pay more than 5 bucks for a N64 game but different prices for different systems sounds good to me.

I agree. I wouldn't pay very much for games. Even $5 for a 64 game seems like a bit much to me. I probably wouldn't buy very much anyways. I have pretty much all the classic Nintendo games I want. There are a couple I'd like to get my hands on though. Certain games I'd probably pay a little more or less for. For instance, I don't know if I'd pay the same price for...let's say, that 64 Kirby game, Crystal Shards I think, as I'd pay for OoT.

[Barkworm]

Iwata said that you might get coupons for free downloads with your Rev games. I like that idea a lot.

[Kid Icarus]

Well, it's been confirmed by Iwata and Miyamoto that the games will infact carry a price tag, although some games will be free for a limited time.

You know what though, at least we have access to the games again. I'll gladly pay a small fee for some of them.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Remember people, this is Nintendo, the company that thinks they're classic, emulated NES titles are worth $20 on GBA. If it works like this, count me out

1. NES titles $10
2. SNES $20
3. N64 $30

or it could work like this...

1. NES Titles $5 or under
2. SNES Titles $10 or under
3. N64 Titles $19 and under

Now, I think that all of these titles should recieve visual upgrades, such as higher resolutions, and sharpened textures like the PS2 does to PS1 titles. It'd make playing those low resolution N64 titles FAR easier in split screen mode. That alone is a reason to sell them, but if you add online play to those N64 titles (which has already been done for the IQue in Japan) BINGO I'll buy the whole goddamn mess of them. Imagine....online Mario Kart 64.......yeah, it already exists in China.

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Now, about that "Revolution will be home to many simple games" stuff. I finally fighred that out. He means that Nintendo and third parties will continue to produce all of the big budget blockbusters that consoles are supposed to have, but Revolution is going to be open to small time developers (eg. Nerds in their basements and small startup companies) who can make titles small games (Puzzles, platformers, arcady stuff ect) and sell these small games online through Nintendo's service. There's even the possibility that they oould develop these titles to the conforms of classic hardware. That's something Xbox Live could never offer.

That's what he means about "simple games" on the system. Now THAT is a teriffic idea. I was thinking Nintendo was going to start cranking out Donkey Kong Arcade titles and try to appiece us with an occational 3D Mario & Zelda, but no. That's not the case. It just didn't make any sense. This is a genius idea and will give fans the power to enter game development. It'll also open up the market to all kinds of new ideas as well.

That alone is a revolution right there. Gimme inexpensive calssic downloads, new content for those classic titles, Big ass Revolution productions, and new ideas from small time developers. Those new ideas are just what gaming needs.

Ever wanted to buy a brand new SNES title online? Here's your chance.

[Peanut]

Xbox Live already has small downloadable games created by small developers. It's called Xbox Live Arcade.

[Ai]

Game development sounds like a great idea, but in order for that to work, the software would have to be compatible with the Revolution. They could make you buy dev kits, but even then, that's limiting the development. I just don't see it working.

[Kid Icarus]

Peanut, the thing on the Xbox dosen't allow you to program for five systems in one though, does it?

I've love to dig around with SNES code. I could also see Nintendo buying small companies with really good game ideas, in an attempt to get the next big thing (worked with Creature and Pokemon, after all).

The NES games on the GBA were priced that high because it costs a lot of money to manufacture those carts. There won't be any manufacturing costs this time though, not even instruction books, so that wont' be an excuse. Had those NES titles been closer to 10 bucks a pop, I'd have picked a few of them up.

And if they DO add things to the N64 games, I'll repurchase my entire library. Mario Kart 64 online, Pokemon Stadium online, Goldeneye online... That'd be a lot of fun.

[ThirdMarioBro]

And if they DO add things to the N64 games, I'll repurchase my entire library. Mario Kart 64 online, Pokemon Stadium online, Goldeneye online... That'd be a lot of fun.

That IQue thingy in China already has online, so they have no reason to not add it. Hell, the whole IQue thing could have been a test market for this. Who knows. I'd rebuy my entire N64 library and that's damn near 50 games. They'd make a killing, and I'd get high rez online Mario Kart 64. See, everyone's happy.

Oh, and I've never heard of Xbox Live having small time developers making titles for Xbox Live Arcade. From what I knew that was just for stuff like Pac-Man and Galaga.

[Barkworm]

There's one thing that's disturbing me about the whole download thing: I BUY games (instead of burning them) because of the whole thing: Box artwork, instruction booklet etc. Now how will Nintendo make downloads of games (which you can easily get from the internet FOR FREE) so attractive for people that they'll be willing to spend money for them?

[ThirdMarioBro]

[Quote=Satoru Iwata & Famitsu.com]Iwata took a similarly ambiguous tone vis-à-vis pricing of downloadable NES, SNES, and N64 games. He said, "We believe that there's a number of ways that we can use the system, such as to offer a bonus download with the purchase of a new game, or allow some games to be downloaded during a limited time during a campaign period."


t is possible that players will enjoy these games without a charge from Nintendo, or there may be some pay structure for accessing the actual product. We haven't finalized it yet. Our goal is to make it as easy and inexpensive as possible, which could be free."

These all came from the same article, we can deduce a few things.

The games may have a fee, they haven't decided. But similar to iTunes, you may get say, 5 free classic downloads when you buy a new Nintendo game.

They way they can make it more attractive is their plans to offer new content to select classic games. That, they could charge more for.

Yeah, I collect games as well. I buy every title, box, book, maps, warrenty junk, ect, then take care of it and keep them in my shelf like a library. Point is, Revolution's stuff would work like that too...at least new software would. The download system is so you don't have to drag out your NES/SNES/N64 everytime you want to play something. Now, if they gave you some free downloads everytime you bought a Rev game, that would add up quick. REALLY quick. And when they start selling new content for classic titles (probobly through patched roms), I'd be all over that. They could sell new levels for Mario Bros. 3. Perhaps that's why they yanked those E-Cards off the market so fast. Point is, we collect games, and we have the original versions, but not everyone collects stuff, or knows how to run emulators, so this is still a good idea.

To summerize, the games might still be free or not. They haven't decided yet. Famitsu just jumped the gun for the sake of a scoop forcing Nintendo to have to say something. They said "We haven't decided yet". Perhaps by stirring up sh*t online we can help them make the right decision. We know that many of their staff (including Reggie) check Nintendo boards to see common fan opinion in regards as to what decisions they make. I say raise hell and get some influnce going. Hey, it worked in getting that F-Zero anime cancelled in the US before fans saw the sh*tty ending, it worked in getting us Twilight Princess, it worked in Nintendo working on their kiddy image, it worked on Game Boy Micro going all sexy looking to combat PSP. It could work with this. They listen now.

[Kid Icarus]

The eReader got pulled from the market so quickly because it was the biggest flop since Virtual Boy. Hell, not even SMB3 and Pokemon combined could save it.

Another reason to pay for the games: It's legal. You don't face the possibility of jail time or fines for buying one of the downloads on Nintendos service. You can bet your ass that when their service launches, they're going to crack down on piracy even harder then they usually do.

And I'll use the old example of Secret of Mana's used price... $50 for the cart alone, or $20 from the new download service. I also suspect that you'll get a digital manual with the game, just like with the Sonic Mega Collection.


In other news, my sister's picking my niece and nephew up a Gamecube with Mario Kart, Donkey Konga, Wind Waker, and iNinja (my nephew loves the game.... weird kid).

[Barkworm]

I've just read a part of an interview with Iwata where he says that people shouldn't expect the Gameboy Micro to be any cheaper than the SP because of the improved screen. Personally I think that's a bad idea.

[Kid Icarus]

I agree. The Micro needs to be budget priced. The GBA hardware is insanely old now, and I can't think of many people that are gonna spend $100+ on a Micro when they can get a DS for $50 more.

[ThirdMarioBro]

That pisses me off. I want a Micro, but $99 is too fu*king much. It'll sell, but no where near as good as it would at $50. I want to see the GBA go another two years just for the Gyro games and stuff like Gunstar Super Heores, but an overpriced system isn't gonna cut it when the DS's screen is bigger, better, and has access to the DS library. That just pisses me off.

Also, I still don't know if that thing will play old GBC titles. I kinda doubt it. This pisses me off. I want the GBM to do good, but they're charging too fu*king much for it. *sigh*

[Mecha Cow]

It wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo uses their Star system for downloading classic games on Revolution. In fact, that sounds like a great idea if you ask me. Well, not as great as free downloads of course. :D

And as for downloading via Revolution vs. downloading ROMs on PC...There really is nothing like playing games on a TV screen with a controller. It's just not the same on an emulator.

[Deathknight]

Honestly, I think GBA Micro is a complete waste of time. By the looks of it, the screen is smaller and no GB and GBC support. The Micro will indeed be $100 seeing that the SP is still $79.99 with no sign of dropping. I don't really think the SP needed much of anything improved. The battery life did sound good though, I use my SP so much I might need a new battery pack soon. Anyway, to charge $100 for a system that only plays GBA games when they still have the DS out is foolish. Also without GBC and GB support it has no advantage over the DS besides GBA multiplayer thus making the SP a better choice. Oh well, maybe I'll get some more good SNES remakes by keeping the GBA market intact. My soul for a portable SNES. I love PocketNES but my life won't be complete until I have a good portable SNES.

[Ai]

In all honesty, I don't see this download service as a determining factor when deciding which system to buy. It may influence the person's decision, but I'm thinking not by much. Online N64 games sounds nice, but those games are old. You can find better on the new generation consoles. If the person is going to buy a Nintendo console, they're going to buy it. There's no uncertainty in the matter, because their consoles are so different in what the others are like. I sort of see this download service as a plus to whoever buys the Revolution. It's not going to "destroy the next generation of consoles." That's my opinion, though. Feel free to disagree and whatnot.

And yeah, the Micro has to be either the same price as the SP or cheaper.

[Peanut]

Online 64 games really makes no difference to me. They can put Goldeneye online all they like, it's still an out dated game. I'd have no interest playing it at all. The downloads seem like a plus, but nothing else. The online services will sway very few people.

[Mecha Cow]

Downloading old games is certainly a nice bonus, but I'll be getting a Revolution for the new games. It's just another feature, people shouldn't make such a big deal out of it. I've already heard a couple of 'Nintendo is doomed's in reaction to the news that the downloads would not be free. :roll:

As for the GBA Micro, it's pretty obvious it exists only to keep the GBA alive for a little while longer. I thought it was pretty cheap when Nintendo came out with the SP, but the thing sold like crazy. I don't expect the Micro will sell as well as the SP, but at least it shows that Nintendo has no intention of dropping the GBA anytime soon.

[Kid Icarus]

Thats funny you guys say that downloading old games isn't going to make a diffrence... I know a few people who've decided to go with a Revolution over a 360 just because of that factor. And that's without even knowing what games they'll be able to get, and them suspecting they'll have to pay for them.

That's like saying pepole didn't buy a PS2 at launch because it doubled as a DVD player. If that's not true, what'd they buy it for? The stellar launch titles? The decent games that came out months after launch? Being able to play PSX games on it? Funny, because the Revolution offers those same things, and then more. I guess since Nintendo's doing it though, it isn't going to count, and instead they'll be gimmicks.

[Ai]

Well, whatever it takes to get the console to sell, I guess, because it's all about "beating out the competition," right? Heh. And I never said I was stating a fact, and there was no reason for you to get snappy about it with your "that's funny" stuff. I'm sure there are people who would buy a Revolution over another console. If every console had the same features, what the hell would be the point of having separate consoles in the first place?

[Deathknight]

Even with the new Smash Bros coming out for Revolution, I'd like to play Melee online.

[Peanut]

Yeah, I can see all the places we said it's not only gimmicky, but that no one will buy it for the downloads. We said it so many times, it's amazing. You're pretty sharp.

[Kid Icarus]

Well, whatever it takes to get the console to sell, I guess, because it's all about "beating out the competition," right?
That's pretty damn halrious comming from someone who favors what Sony's machines have to offer, considering how they ran things with developers durring the PS1 era.

And you know what, it IS about beating out the competition. Nintendo is a business, and business exist to make more money then the other businesses. At the end of the day, if that little 'extra' is what it takes to sell 1,000 more Revolutions then PS3's, then so be it. The majority of people don't have enough funds to buy three consoles a generation. I happen to be one of those. As a Nintendo fan, I buy their machines to play their games, and hopefuly some great third party games. If Nintendo becomes the market leader again, I don't have to worry about missing out on a handful of games every year.

I'm also getting sick of having to defend most everything I post on here. If you're going to be all "omg, Nintendo can't do anything right!11!1" then get the hell out of this thread. It's called "The Nintendo Discussion Thread" for a reason.

[Ai]

I favor all systems, because I'm not bound to companies like some people are. You know I'll be buying all three systems this new generation. Since when was there competition in the first place? Nintendo's sh*t is so whack ass different from what the other two have to offer, they have nothing to compete against. What they really need to do is appeal to gamers with what they're putting on the new console in order to keep their business going. Hell, they have enough fans like you to keep their business going whether they attract new customers or not.

And who said you had to defend yourself? Why do you have to explain yourself? Maybe you should grow up and realize that we're trying to have decent conversations with constructive criticism. We're not bashing anything. You're the one that's bashing Sony and Microsoft all over the place in a thread where people won't see it. Maybe you should get your head out of your ass and see that sometimes people won't agree with your opinion. I shouldn't be using this, but "plzkthx."

Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be playing some Animal Crossing.

[ThirdMarioBro]

That's like saying pepole didn't buy a PS2 at launch because it doubled as a DVD player. If that's not true, what'd they buy it for? The stellar launch titles? The decent games that came out months after launch? Being able to play PSX games on it? Funny, because the Revolution offers those same things, and then more. I guess since Nintendo's doing it though, it isn't going to count, and instead they'll be gimmicks.

Bingo. I get so tired of Sony doing something and being praised because it's mainstream, and Nintendo getting flamed because they're held on some "almighty standard". They're a buisness, and buisness's make money.

Online 64 games really makes no difference to me. They can put Goldeneye online all they like, it's still an out dated game.

Online Mario Kart 64 is online Mario Kart 64. It's still way better than Double Dash.



You know, if you look at it from a money making standard, Nintendo is actually the market leader. I don't care about this console war sh*t. Just as long as the console companies make $$$ and the individual fans get their games, then everyone's happy, I'm happy. It's too damn stressing and detremental to the gaming experience.

It'll all work out anyway. It always does.

Now, excuse me while I go turn my Game Boy Advance upside down and play Wario Ware Twisted.
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E3 Awards Results

Best of Show
Spore
(Maxis/Electronic Arts for PC)

Best Original Game
Spore
(Maxis/Electronic Arts for PC)

Best Hardware/Peripheral
PlayStation 3
(Sony Computer Entertainment / Nvidia / IBM / Toshiba)

Best Console Game
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
(Nintendo for GameCube)

Best Handheld Game
Nintendogs
(Nintendo for Nintendo DS)

Best Action Game
F.E.A.R.
(Monolith/Vivendi-Universal Games for PC)

Best Action/Adventure Game
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
(Nintendo for GameCube)

Best Fighting Game
Soul Calibur III
(Namco for PlayStation 2)

Best Role Playing Game
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
(Bethesda Software for PC / Xbox 360)

Best Racing Game
Burnout Revenge
(Criterion Games/Electronic Arts for PlayStation 2, Xbox)

Best Simulation Game
Spore
(Maxis/Electronic Arts for PC)

Best Sports Game
Madden NFL 06
(EA Tiburon/EA Sports for All Platforms)

Best Strategy Game
Company of Heroes
(Relic/THQ for PC)

Best Puzzle/Trivia/Parlor Game
We Love Katamari
(Namco for PlayStation 2)

Best Online Multiplayer
Battlefield 2
(Digital Illusions/Electronic Arts for PC)

Special Commendation for Graphics
NON-PLAYABLE GAMES ELIGIBLE IN THIS CATEGORY
Killzone
(Guerilla Games/Sony Computer Entertainment Europe for PS3)
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I just don't think Spore deserved game of the show. For once, I didn't see that slap in the face comming. *sigh* Meh, what can you do anyway.

[Ai]

I'm thinking about getting Nintendogs when it comes out. Even though I'm not a dog lover, it looks like a hell of a lot of fun.

Birthday in 2 days. DS? You f*cking bet.

[Anarky]

I'm thinking about getting Nintendogs when it comes out. Even though I'm not a dog lover, it looks like a hell of a lot of fun.

Birthday in 2 days. DS? You f*cking bet.

If you want an advice from a lifelong dogowner. I tell you, no virtual mutt can replace the happiness a real dog gives you.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I'm thinking about getting Nintendogs when it comes out. Even though I'm not a dog lover, it looks like a hell of a lot of fun.

Birthday in 2 days. DS? You f*cking bet.

FINALLY! Welcome fellow DS owner. :D

[Peanut]

Yeah! It's about damn time, buddy. It's taken you long enough.

[Mecha Cow]

E3 Awards Results
Where'd you get that list from? IGN? I know they had Spore as 'Best of Show', while Gamespot had Twilight Princess at that spot. Or maybe there's an 'official' list I don't know about.

I also think it's pretty strange that this Spore game was voted 'Best of Show'. Maybe it's because I don't follow the PC gaming news much, but I hadn't heard anything about the game until it was mentioned in those awards. Maybe it's the fanboy in me talking, but I think Twilight Princess was more deserving of the 'Best of Show' award.

[Barkworm]

As far as I got it, Spore was pretty big at this E³ (I don't follow PC games news either) and won the "Best PC game of E³" and "Most innovative game of the show" award at most sites. They probably wanted to give the "best of show" award to an original game instead of an established franchise. Just my guess.
And yeah, those are the "official awards" which are chosen by journalists of different sites and magazines.

[Ai]

I didn't see Pokémon XD anywhere in those awards. That makes me sad, because I'm looking forward to that game a lot. Finally, a Pokémon game in a 3D world. Now if we can get a MMORPG Pokémon game, we'd be set. :D

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, I played it, and it kicks ass. It's RPG mode is really fleashed out with light and dark Pokemon, and the battle mode is like a really souped up Pokemon Collesuem. I really like it.

[Ai]

Yeah, that's what I was hoping for. I'm really looking forward to it.

[Peanut]

I just want to...I don't know, walk in a field and see Pokemon running around and have the ability to engage them in battle and catch them. God, that game would be so damn good!

[ThirdMarioBro]

I just want to...I don't know, walk in a field and see Pokemon running around and have the ability to engage them in battle and catch them. God, that game would be so damn good!

Well, actually that's exactly what you get to do. And when you journy between cities, it actually feels like you traversed the countryside through different enviroments. You feel like you really went somewhere and saw something. The thing is that there is also an overlying storyline to all of the battle stuff as well. Pokemon XD is one hell of a deep game.

[Ai]

Did you happen to see any old Pokémon from the Red/Blue era? Or are they totally different this time around? What bugged me about the newer Pokémon games is the Pokémon were just too difficult to use in terms of finding what attacks were good, etc. I want something that's easier to get used to.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, it's kind of a mix of everything. Hell, the first dark Pokemon I used was a Charmander on some evil trainer. Another thing is that you can now attempt to bag your oppanent's Poke's mid battle if you dare. It really pisses off those gym leaders.

[Ai]

Jack a trainer's Pokémon? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That sounds so awesome! Definitely can't wait for this game now. I'll reserve this sucker if I have to.

[Peanut]

The whole Dark/Light thing seems kind of weird to me, but I'm definately going to get it.

[JameO]

Yeah same here, we will be catching them all, all over again. But we definately need a MMORPG in the near future.

[Stryker]

I wouldn't have the Money for it but a Pokemon MMORPG would be cool, especially if they kept in the whole Pokemon contests and those...bug catching things from G/S to have a big competition aspect.

As long as they don't make the light and dark thing into a Metroid Prime 2 thing im good. That kinda got annoying IMO

[ThirdMarioBro]

I wouldn't have the Money for it but a Pokemon MMORPG would be cool

Hey, it'd be a pokemon MMO, which means it'd be madeby Nintendo, which means you would not have to pay subscription costs of any kinds to play.

[Peanut]

I think there might be a small cost for a MMORPG, but maybe not. Those games can really hammer servers, and a Pokemon MMORPG would probably wreck them. I don't see how they could make one that didn't involve some sort of cost, but if they did it'd be f*cking awesome!

I wonder if you'd be able to join little "guild" type groups. I guess it wouldn't be a MMORPG if you couldn't. Something that would really be cool, double battles, like in the last couple games, but with a seperate trainer for each Pokemon. That would be sweet.

[ThirdMarioBro]

No HD On Revolution

June 10, 2005

by: Phillip Levin

Nintendo says its next-generation home console won’t support high-definition games.
Today, IGN.com published a story on high-definition and how it will affect the future of videogames, movies and even regular cable or satellite-viewing. In the story, several well-known figures spoke about the subject, including Factor 5’s Julian Eggebrecht and, more significantly for Nintendo fans, Nintendo’s own Perrin Kaplan.

According to Mrs. Kaplan, Nintendo of America’s vice president of corporate affairs, Nintendo Revolution – Nintendo’s next-generation home console – will not support any high-definition formats.

“It is accurate that at this time we will not support high-definition [on Revolution]," Kaplan told IGN.com.

"Nintendo's Revolution is being built with a variety of gamers' needs in mind, such as quick start-up time, high power, and ease of use for development and play. It’s also compact and sleek, and has beautiful graphics in which to enjoy innovative games," Kaplan says. "Nintendo doesn't plan for the system to be HD compatible as with that comes a higher price for both the consumer and also the developer creating the game. Will it make the game better to play? With the technology being built into the Revolution, we believe the games will look brilliant and play brilliantly. This can all be done without HD."

"Companies focused on outdoing each other for technology's sake are using the power of public relations to confuse the media into thinking high-definition is a live-or-die part of the games of the future," says Kaplan. "It is a technological fact that games will still look incredibly beautiful and play incredibly well without the high cost of making them HD compatible. HD may be one of the technologies of the future. Is it the gaming industry's only future? We don't think so."

Meanwhile, both competitors, Microsoft and Sony, will be supporting the wave of HD with their next-generation consoles, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, respectively. With Xbox 360, Microsoft is requiring that all titles on the console output in both 720p and 1080i. Meanwhile, all games released on the PlayStation 3 will have to run in at least 720p or 1080i, if not higher modes, such as 1080p, which the PS3 can not only output in, but can output to two different high-definition TVs simultaneously. 1080p is currently one of the most advanced HD formats, which only a few high-end HDTV sets can run.

The next generation of videogames is approaching quickly. Xbox 360 will launch this fall, with PlayStation 3 launching sometime in 2006. Finally, Nintendo Revolution is due to release by the end of 2006.

source: IGNcube


Just what in the fu*k are they thinking? Seriously, this is just stupid. Flat out fu*king stupid.

[Ai]

Wait. Now I'm confused. So where are the downloaded Gamecube games going to go? I mean, those suckers are fairly large. It'd get costly if you bought a bunch of SD cards just so you can hold onto your downloaded Gamecube games. I'd rather just go and buy the game at that point. Someone clue me in! :cry:

[ThirdMarioBro]

As it is, I have no clue where tha Gamecube games are supposed to go. I guess they're assuming Flash Cards, but like you said, by that point, it'd just be cheaper to buy the real thing on disc. I think the download service is primarily meant to be used for NES/SNES/N64 stuff, because most people are just going to buy the actual Gamecube discs or already own them anyway. It's just not Cost effective to use Flash Cards for something that large (1.5Gigs). I know they're not using proprietary cards this time (thank GOD!) because Iwata said you could manage the files on your PC, although you can't copy them because of copy protection (which I can understand legally).

Basically that means you can only use whatever is the largest Flash medium on the market, and the currect largest is only 1Gig and that's the cost of a Gamecube title or more, and not even enough to hold it. That makes me question weither GCN titles will even be available on the network at all. It just dosen't seem like it'd work.

[Ai]

Yeah, so I guess the article written in Famitsu was simply a misconception and published a little too early. Maybe there won't be downloadable Gamecube games at all. Too bad, but I'd rather go out and buy the game, anyway.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Agreed. Famitsu was wrong on the whole "free" thing as well. All the same. I'd rather have the real thing anyway.

[Mecha Cow]

I hightly doubt you will be able to download Gamecube games. The Revolution will be able to play Gamecube discs, so if you want a GC game, you're just gonna have to buy it in a store. To make them downloadable would be a really stupid move on Nintendo's part. I don't see where you got this idea from, other than that one dubious article.

As for game storage, I'm positive I heard somewhere that they would be stored in the Flash memory within the console and on Flash cards. Whatever that means.

That being said, I don't like the 'end of 2006' bit. I know Nintendo has been using the 'We are not competing with Sony or Microsoft' excuse a lot lately, but I don't think it would be good if they were again the last to release their console.

Also, what are High Definition games?

[ThirdMarioBro]

HD games are just games being displayed in a high resolution HD format on expensive HDTV sets. It just makes the games look better as a whole.

And the system has 528MB of internal flash memory to store stuff on other than flash cards, but that's only 1/3 the space needed for a Gamecube title.

[Mecha Cow]

but that's only 1/3 the space needed for a Gamecube title.
Well, like I said, it don't think it's very likely that we'll be able to download Gamecube games. I think this pretty much confirms it.

As for this HDTV thing, I can understand why some people might be dissappointed to hear that Nintendo won't be supporting it, but I can't say I care much myself.

*Plays games on a crappy 50Hz TV*

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, it dosen't hurt a lot of people, but I liked it because I could get better sound quality with the digital cables and I play games on my PC's LCD monitor with 16ms responce time so this tends to piss me off because I'll be getting worse transfer quality than my Gamecube provided. That pisses me off.

Yes, Nintendo is going to have one hell of a price advantage with DVD playback included, and if those leaked specs are correct and the machine has twin 2.6 Ghz procesors, the poly count and sh*t will be teriffic to compete with the others, but I don't like how nIntendo is sitting on that info. Something just dosen't smell right about the whole mess. yeah, I agree they should hide the special aspects of the machine until Sony and Microsoft have finalized their designs, but why not release the info about the power? Something's bad wrong about the whole thing.

[Stryker]

I just hope Nintendo makes a series of confusing commercials promoting the Revolution. Then i'll be one happy confused chappy

[Ai]

Well, like I said, it don't think it's very likely that we'll be able to download Gamecube games. I think this pretty much confirms it.

As for this HDTV thing, I can understand why some people might be dissappointed to hear that Nintendo won't be supporting it, but I can't say I care much myself.

*Plays games on a crappy 50Hz TV*

You're not alone. I play on a ghetto 27" TV. No HDTV, no plasma, nothing. It's your simple CRT. I can also understand people being disappointed, but I don't see myself buying a better TV anytime soon, although I'd like to. If I could have my way, I'd get a huge plasma screen with a home theater system. But alas, I don't have that kind of money.

I don't think Nintendo has much to worry about. They did reveal a fair amount of information at E3, and for me it's enough to keep my interest. I say have faith in the good ol' Nintendo that's had so much experience with this stuff.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Woah, that was different. I jumped their ass and you defended them. :o

:lol: That was wierd.


If they keep the DVD playback and this non-HD output keeps the price down, then they will have a teriffic advantage on the cost with a larger difference than Gamecube ever had, except this time, the console looks sexy.

I only play on my LCD because the big TV in the family room is just that, in the family room. If I go play RE4 they freak out hardcore. It's hard for them to accept that I can flip from something like Yoshi's eating fruit to killing the president's daughter to shut her up and not flinch a muscle. Since that makes them flip out so hardcore, I just pulled up my consoles and moved them to my insluated room. I may not be playing on a 48 inch anymore, but my monitor is right up in my face so it dosen't need to be.

Hell, I used to have them running through my video card, but that damn ancient thing only runs the video in jacks at 30FPS and was wasting the 16ms responce time on the screen, so I went to Radio Shack and had them make me a cheapo converter to let me hook up my console S-Video switcher box to the screen directly and bingo. Job done and blood and chainsaws in my face.

That's why I freak out when my PC dies. It's the center of everything I do. I flip from the Gamecube to Battle Royale while typing on this board and working at my job online. When it dies on me I have absoultely nothing to do.

[Ai]

So you're saying that you use your LCD monitor to play all of your video game systems? You have to tell me what to buy to get that to happen, because I've been wanting to do that for a long time now. Is it like a box that connects the monitor cable, and then splits off to the computer and to the video game system you want to play, and there's a switch that'll let you go from computer to video game system? Please fill me in. I must know.

EDIT: Just picked up RE4. It is beyond diesel, and it is also beyond hard. I really need to get used to the aiming system and be a beast with shooting those suckers.

[Peanut]

I want to know how to do that too. My TV is better than a regular old TV, but I'd rather play it on my PC monitor.

[ThirdMarioBro]

So you're saying that you use your LCD monitor to play all of your video game systems? You have to tell me what to buy to get that to happen, because I've been wanting to do that for a long time now. Is it like a box that connects the monitor cable, and then splits off to the computer and to the video game system you want to play, and there's a switch that'll let you go from computer to video game system? Please fill me in. I must know.

EDIT: Just picked up RE4. It is beyond diesel, and it is also beyond hard. I really need to get used to the aiming system and be a beast with shooting those suckers.

Well, there's several options to make this work. There's converter boxes you have to install and hook up, and there's boxes just like the one you discribed. We have this big Radio Shack in town and they build custom video adapters for you, but I'm sure there are better ones on the market than the one I had. I got a better box after that. The old one kind of had a tendency to get grainy when I turned the speaker up. I use a commercial one now. Lemme do some comparing...

http://www.nextag.com/Startech-GAME-CONSOLE-TO--zz35928616z0znz3z1zB32z1--READ-REVIEWS-html

Don't buy that one. It's sh*t.

http://www.shopping.com/xPF-Viewsonic_NEXTVISION_N4_VIDEO_PROFESSOR_N4

I've seen this one in action, and it's pretty darn good, but there's better.

http://www.computerhq.com/Startech_GAME_CONSOLE_TO_PC_MONITOR/COMP2VGA/hardware/partinfo-id-23355.html

That one is better but the picture quality still isn't perfect.




http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:VGA%20Box%20Accessory:1951015703:page=descriptio n;_ylt=Amk5opp6SVFqLFVuV8NNlN1vIb0F;_ylu=X3oDMTA5Z W01N2htBHNlYwNiZ3NpYg--

That's the one you want. Mine works amazing and it's compatible with all consoles. Badass little converter box, and pretty cheap too.

[Ai]

This sounds great, and I'll have to get one, but I have a question. What...do you do about sound? Is it possible to produce the sound out of your computer and into the headphones plugged into the computer? I don't have speakers anymore, I just use headphones...

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, there is a way if you have a Sound Blaster. You just need a special cable. Some Wal-Mart's and Best Buy's have them, but I know Radio Shack will have them. I forget all the names, so bear with me a little...

Okay, you need a cable that looks like a standard 1/8" headphone jack at one end, and has two male RCA phono (Red and White) jacks at the other. They don't make a cable with two female jacks as far as I know, so to make up for this, get two double ended female adapters while you're there. They're like little audio ports that you can plug male jacks into both ends. You plug one end onto the male RCA ports, and your console's audio (Red and White) cables into the other end.

After that, you just take the completed setup and plug the 1/8" jack into the line-in port on the sound card and if your headphone jack is on the PC, then you should be able to hear the sound through your computer with no problem at all.

I kind of suck at discribing things, so when I can find my Sony memory stick I'll take a picture of the cable and you can take that with you and gather the stuff to put it together.

[Ai]

No, you did an excellent job. I know exactly what you're saying. Okay, cool. I'll have to get this done, because damn.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Cool, glad to help :) It is so fu*king awesome to have it all working, because PC Monitors absoultely kill TV's. You can kick the consoles all into into HD and filter the audio with things like wow effects, all while having it come from a console and look like silk. Works best with LCD's, but the setuup will work with anything.

Kind of turns your PC into a multimedia entertainment center. :D

[Peanut]

Damn, man. I want to do that so badly. I hope I can find something like that in a store. There's no way I can order it over the internet.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Why not? Ebay takes money orders on most things.

[Peanut]

Why not? Ebay takes money orders on most things.

That's true, but Ebay also takes stuff in American funds, which quickly drains my pocket of Canadian money. I'd probably end up paying $20-30 more than I would in a store, after conversion, shipping and fees for getting a money order. I'm a bum, I can't afford it.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Good point. Didn't think abot conversion rates. That sucks man. :(

[ThirdMarioBro]

Badass new Miyamoto interview.
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Wired News: The Japanese games industry is in trouble, as sales keep dropping. What is Nintendo doing to get things going again?

Shigeru Miyamoto: I don't really think it's a Japanese problem. I think it's an industrywide and worldwide issue. In fact, I'm surprised how well the U.S. has held up; I think the U.S. is more the exception rather than the rule.

What's happening with video games is the same thing that happens with anything new and interesting. At the beginning, everybody wants to see what it is. They gather around and check it out. But gradually, people start to lose interest.

The people who don't lose interest become more and more involved. And the medium starts to be influenced by only those people. It becomes something exclusive to the people who've stuck with it for a long time. And when the people who were interested in it at first look back at it, it's no longer the thing that interested them.

So obviously, it's very important for us to create brand new things that bring back those people. But it's just as important to create the kind of games that current gamers know they like.
WN: If you look, for example, at Space Invaders or Street Fighter II, those games were amazingly popular. But now, space shooters and fighting games are niche genres.

Miyamoto: One of the things that we're looking at as an answer to this issue are games like Nintendogs. It's sold over 400,000 units to date in Japan, and we think it'll just continue to sell for a long time. A great thing about Nintendogs is that one-third of the purchasers of that title are also buying the Nintendo DS hardware. So it's bringing people back, or even bringing people into video games for the first time.

WN: So why is Nintendogs so appealing to the masses?

Miyamoto: Because rather than trying to follow industry trends, it's based on things that people find appealing in general. Not just what they find appealing in a video game.

Moreover, I think that if companies are challenged financially, or are concerned only with profits, they're going to only create things that are safe, products that are proven to sell. And that's what they're going to continue to crank out.

Nintendo's always been about challenging itself to come up with interesting things. People from outside might say that we make many different games with Mario every year, or a lot of Zelda games. But within those titles are always new and interesting challenges. We have the luxury of being both profitable and creative.
WN: Speaking of which, New Super Mario Bros. for the Nintendo DS is a rather ambitious follow-up to a revered series. Who are the team members working on the game?

Miyamoto: (Longtime Mario series lead director Takashi) Tezuka and (Zelda series lead programmer Toshihiko) Nakago are heading up the project, and I jump in from time to time. So it's really close to the original Mario team members.

When Mario went 3-D, there were a lot of new things that Mario could do and that the player could experience. But moving from the side-scrolling game that everybody is used to into a full 3-D environment, the game design process became more difficult. With the DS we wanted a game that uses cutting-edge technology -- you're using wireless gameplay for two-player simultaneous Mario -- but also has gone back to the roots of the series to be a game that anybody can pick up because it's very familiar. We wanted a Mario game that everybody can be excited to play.

WN: This is the first traditional side-scrolling Mario game Nintendo has made since 1991. Why wait this long to do a new Mario game in the original style?

Miyamoto: Because we'd spent all this time working on 3-D Mario games. And of course, when we had Rare developing the side-scrolling Donkey Kong Country games, we were able to rely on them, which kept us from coming back to side-scrollers for a long time.

WN: But there's still no sign of the long-rumored Mario 128 for GameCube.

Miyamoto: It's still floating around. We're searching for that fundamental idea that's going to drive the next 3-D Mario game. But we're not sure when that's going to jump out at us. We're doing lots of tests with small groups.

WN: If that's the case -- if the design process is still at the point where you're doing experiments and tests -- is it even possible that Mario 128 could come out on GameCube at this point? Or is it definitely a Revolution title?

Miyamoto: We think we want it on Revolution.

WN: So, there will be no new GameCube Mario platform game.

Miyamoto: Right. The Mario team can't create too many games at the same time, so they're concentrating on the Revolution.

WN: At your E3 press conference, Nintendo announced that the Revolution will be able to download and play games from Nintendo's back catalog. Does that mean that the entire library of Nintendo-published games will be available?

Miyamoto: Technologically speaking, it's possible to run every previous Nintendo game. It's just a matter of picking which ones we want to have available.

WN: The Revolution's controller wasn't shown, but there has been a lot of speculation as to what special functionality it will have. Can you tell us about that?

Miyamoto: Nintendo is always trying to be on the forefront of control innovations, like the analog stick, rumble or wireless. As soon as these are available, our competitors snatch them up.

Because the user interface is going to drive the Revolution software design, that's what's going to make our software stand out. Nobody else is going to be able to do what we do with next-generation game software. So, I can't reveal anything. It's under wraps because it's the big gun.

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Okay, the fact that the original Mario team is working on the New SMB makes me cream my pants. I want that game NOW. It's a longtime dream. Another good reason Rare is gone. Time for the man in red to take back the platforming stage. Hot DAMN!

[Peanut]

I can't wait to play 2-Player! AT THE SAME TIME! That's so damn awesome. Speaking of the DS, does anyone have any idea exactly when it's supposed to go online?

[ThirdMarioBro]

In a word, nope.

[Barkworm]

All those vague comments about Mario 128 are starting to annoy me. Have they even begun working on the game yet?

[ThirdMarioBro]

Most likely yes. They're probobly just covering for the fact that they said it was coming to Gamecube or something. It'll be at launch.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Well, I have said many things in the past years, but something finally happened and I've made a decision that, to me at least, is a pretty big deal.

Now, I am buying a Nintendo Revolution next generation. Why? Look at my username. Moving on, I buy anything Nintendo puts out and that's final because I know it's going to provide me with one of the most unique and enjoyable experiences obtainable. That's just how I think. I'm loyal to the core and always will be, but I've decided I want more as well.

It's been in the back of my mind for some time now, and all of this video game politics bullsh1t that has been going around this thread made it all come home. You know what, who gives a sh1t. It's depressing, it distracting, and it's detrimental to the game expeience. Now, I still believe gaming is going into a slump. I still believe that all three consoles aren't going to sell near what they did this gen because costs are going to be rediculious ($499 for consoles & $65 for games), but that's irrelevant. Things will get fixed eventually. Hell, Nintendo may be the one to do it, but the point is, who cares. Gaming is about one thing...fun. That's all there is to it. Politics ruin so many things in life and there is no way I'm letting it happen to my gaming life so I have decided to drop the bull.

This generation I will buy a Nintendo Revolution and an Xbox360. Yes, you read that right. Both of them. I'm doing it because I want to broden my gaming horizens and open myself to new experiences. I'll buy every single game Nintendo puts out because I love the all, but I also want to play Halo, Perfect Dark Zero, those two Sakaguchi games, DOA4, and all the ports from all the developers who defect from Sony over the next four years. I will be skiping on PS3 not because I want to keep up the "S0ny is teh 3vi1!!!!" bullsh*t, but because I think they're hardware is an overpriced, over blown, ugly machine with bottlenecks in it's design, and WAAAAY too little RAM. Both of the others have more (again). It's going to be hard for developers, and they are going to begin defecting to Nintendo and Microsoft.

Another reason I'm doing this is because Microsoft has really been trying to improve themselves in the gaming market, and have some good things to offer. Will they take Nintendo's place in my heart? When hell freezes over. But they may carve their own place. You never know until you try. I thin console exclusives are going to be about as reliable as Capcom's this gen, so 360 should see most of PS3's exclusive stuff, and may well knock down the mighty Sony empire. Nintendo will continue to make amazing new gameplay experiences for other developers to steal from, but they will make us all happy, and I still believe their the strongest company because they make more money than both SOny & Microsoft.

Ai said it before, and I say it now. No one is going anywhere anytime soon, if ever. As long as they continue to make things that please their fans and make them $$$, then everything is fine and everyone is happy. I just want to have more access to more gaming experiences and drop all this bullsh*t. It ruins the game, it ruins the fun, and it ruins the point of being a gamer. This Christmas my shopping list is as follows:

1. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
2. Xbox 360
3. Mario Kart DS
4. Mario & Luigi 2
5. Whatever else NIntendo schuedles for Q4 - 2005
5. DOA4
6. Perfect Dark Zero

See, I did it. I broke out of the fanboy mold.

Oh, and I'm buying a PS2 when prices bottom out so I can get access to the FF games.

Oh, and fu*k GTA. :D :D

[Mecha Cow]

*Gasp*

Good for you, man. :D
Your wallet is going to hate you.

[Barkworm]

Well, I have said many things in the past years, but something finally happened and I've made a decision that, to me at least, is a pretty big deal.

Now, I am buying a Nintendo Revolution next generation. Why? Look at my username. Moving on, I buy anything Nintendo puts out and that's final because I know it's going to provide me with one of the most unique and enjoyable experiences obtainable. That's just how I think. I'm loyal to the core and always will be, but I've decided I want more as well.

It's been in the back of my mind for some time now, and all of this video game politics bullsh1t that has been going around this thread made it all come home. You know what, who gives a sh1t. It's depressing, it distracting, and it's detrimental to the game expeience. Now, I still believe gaming is going into a slump. I still believe that all three consoles aren't going to sell near what they did this gen because costs are going to be rediculious ($499 for consoles & $65 for games), but that's irrelevant. Things will get fixed eventually. Hell, Nintendo may be the one to do it, but the point is, who cares. Gaming is about one thing...fun. That's all there is to it. Politics ruin so many things in life and there is no way I'm letting it happen to my gaming life so I have decided to drop the bull.

This generation I will buy a Nintendo Revolution and an Xbox360. Yes, you read that right. Both of them. I'm doing it because I want to broden my gaming horizens and open myself to new experiences. I'll buy every single game Nintendo puts out because I love the all, but I also want to play Halo, Perfect Dark Zero, those two Sakaguchi games, DOA4, and all the ports from all the developers who defect from Sony over the next four years. I will be skiping on PS3 not because I want to keep up the "S0ny is teh 3vi1!!!!" bullsh*t, but because I think they're hardware is an overpriced, over blown, ugly machine with bottlenecks in it's design, and WAAAAY too little RAM. Both of the others have more (again). It's going to be hard for developers, and they are going to begin defecting to Nintendo and Microsoft.

Another reason I'm doing this is because Microsoft has really been trying to improve themselves in the gaming market, and have some good things to offer. Will they take Nintendo's place in my heart? When hell freezes over. But they may carve their own place. You never know until you try. I thin console exclusives are going to be about as reliable as Capcom's this gen, so 360 should see most of PS3's exclusive stuff, and may well knock down the mighty Sony empire. Nintendo will continue to make amazing new gameplay experiences for other developers to steal from, but they will make us all happy, and I still believe their the strongest company because they make more money than both SOny & Microsoft.

Ai said it before, and I say it now. No one is going anywhere anytime soon, if ever. As long as they continue to make things that please their fans and make them $$$, then everything is fine and everyone is happy. I just want to have more access to more gaming experiences and drop all this bullsh*t. It ruins the game, it ruins the fun, and it ruins the point of being a gamer. This Christmas my shopping list is as follows:

1. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
2. Xbox 360
3. Mario Kart DS
4. Mario & Luigi 2
5. Whatever else NIntendo schuedles for Q4 - 2005
5. DOA4
6. Perfect Dark Zero

See, I did it. I broke out of the fanboy mold.

Oh, and I'm buying a PS2 when prices bottom out so I can get access to the FF games.

Oh, and fu*k GTA. :D :D
Whoa.... just WHOA!!!
I'm proud of you, my friend. That's all I can say.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Whoa.... just WHOA!!!
I'm proud of you my friend. That's all I can say.

Thank you :D It means a lot.

[Peanut]

Good job, TMB. Welcome to the dark-side. You'll find we're very accommodating over here.

[Ai]

You'll receive your membership card and key to your room in 3 business days.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=5225&pg=1&comments=full#comments

Looks like prices will be going up again. *sigh*


and more crazy fake pictures...

http://forums.advancedmn.com/showthread.php?p=207082&posted=1#post207082

[Ai]

Boo for price increases, horray for fake pictures. But I remember games being more expensive than even that back in the day. We never bought our games, though, at least I didn't. My parents took care of that.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Yeah, they were. Hell, Super Mario World 2 and Secret of Mana cost damn near $84.00 in '95, but that was due to a silicon shortage.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Allright, sorry for the double post, but when something this f*cked up happens, it deserves it's own post. :lol:

Everyone remember the Super Mario Bros. Sper Show? Good. Now, last October a DVD was released of the first 5 episodes uncut. It was supposed to be the first in a line of releasing the whole series over time. Well, the publisher bailed out aand the releases stopped all of a sudden. Well, DiC found a new publisher.....

Ladies and gentlemen, The Legend of Zelda & the first 26 episode half of the Super Mario Bros Super Show will be published by none other than...

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Excuse me while I die laughing at the absurdity of this situation. :lol: :lol:

Well, the important thing is that they're finally coming. :lol: :lol:

[Ai]

That's ridiculous. Sony to the rescue? That like, never happens. Please excuse me while I go contemplate the situation, because I'm not believing it.

Well, at least they're not redoing it or anything. Are they just remastering it and putting it out?

[ThirdMarioBro]

DiC already remastered it. They're just going to publish the discs in their original intro/scary Lou ALbano segment/cartoon/other scary segment/credits format, and release it as a set.

This is so messed up it's halarious.

http://ds.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=2183

^^source article

more proof

http://www.dvdtoons.com/news/791

[Stryker]

As long as i get the episode with Roddy Piper im Good.

[Ai]

That sounds good to me. I loved the old Zelda cartoon. It had the old sounds and stuff in it. Great stuff.

[ThirdMarioBro]

The only bad thing was poor old Link never got laid. He worked his ass off too.

[Stryker]

Any News of Captain N being given the DVD treatment?

[Mecha Cow]

Those Mario and Zelda cartoons were so stupid. In a good way. :lol:

Excuuuse me, princess!

In other news (http://gba.n64europe.com/index.php?id=3724)...

[Barkworm]

AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHH!!!!!!!

[ThirdMarioBro]

I think I'll just take your word on that one and not ask. :lol:

[Dinny]

THAT FROG MUST DIE :flaming:

[Anarky]

I thought you might all be interested in this: Dabba dabba daba (http://www.unf-unf.de/show807.html) :D

[Peanut]

That group sounds a lot like the one's who did the soundtrack for Crash Twinsanity.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Oh yeah, I saw that a long time ago. Very cool, especially the Mortal Kombat part. And Zelda seems to get that responce everywhere it seems:D

Oh yeah, on a related note. Go here. It's a requirement.

http://www.videogamepianist.com/index.php?id=mission

This sh*t is fu*king awesome to an absurd level. He's got live Piano arrangments of Mario, Zelda, Halo, Sonic, and Final Fantasy for download as well as video versions from E3 2005 as well. It's just awesome to an extreme.

[Anarky]

Okay, that Piano Guy really is off the wall. Blindfolded and stuff. He must be really good at plaing that thing. Sheesh, I wish I could do that.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Apprently he's been at it since he was 4. That was just amazing.

[ThirdMarioBro]

http://www.neoseeker.com/Games/Products/DS/pokemon_pearl/

I dunno if that's real or not, but if it is, then my social life ( :lol: ...social life) just died. GIMME POKEMON NOW!!!!!

MMORPG TIME FOLKS. This is going to be the showdown of the century folks, buy your tickets now, Pokemon MMORPG in 3D with free online versus GTA Portable. This is gonna be damn interesting.

[Mecha Cow]

I don't think anything has been made official yet, so I'd take this with a big grain of salt.

It does sound cool though, even though I doubt you'll have as much freedom as they claim.