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ThirdMarioBro
06-21-2005, 12:57 PM
Nintendo F*cks up again
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http://ds.ign.com/articles/627/627402p1.html


Surfice to say, they took the NES games out of Animal Crossing because they want to sell them for $20 a pop on GBA.

That goddamn pisses me off. What's the point of doing menial jobs and painting your house if you don't get Super Mario Bros and excitebike for it? Especially with the now lost possibility of wireless online 2 player for those games as well. It would have been so much fun to take the NES games online with the rest of the game.

I'm so pissed at them right now. :x Fu*king cooperate retro greed. Now were stuck with $20 emulators. *sigh* I outta buy a flash cart.

06-21-2005, 01:05 PM
Oh, that's so dumb. I don't know what the hell they're thinking. That was part of the fun of Animal Crossing!

ThirdMarioBro
06-21-2005, 01:09 PM
I know what they're thinking. Bling Bling.

ThirdMarioBro
06-22-2005, 08:23 PM
Curious to see who's who when it comes to Japanese software sales? Well, thanks to The Magic Box, we've got a list that will give you an idea of how the top 10 devs rank, at least in 2004.

#. Company name -- 2004 software sales -- 2004 software releases

1. Game Freak -- 3,999,760 -- 3 (Game Freak is Nintendo/Pokemon)
2. Nintendo -- 3,558,079 -- 13 (duh)
3. Level 5 -- 3,231,288 -- 1 (Dragon Quest VIII)
4. Capcom -- 2,244,576 -- 9
5. Konami -- 1,867,314 -- 3
6. Omega Force -- 1,696,286 -- 3
7. ArtePiazza / Matrix -- 1,611,155 -- 1
8. Namco -- 1,059,371 -- 6
9. Sammy -- 902,105 -- 1
10. Hudson -- 833,318 -- 2


Not too shabby I dare say. Notice Sony isn't even on the list. Tisk tisk. Meh, whatever.

06-22-2005, 08:32 PM
Sony makes terrible games, though. When was the last time they made a good game? Socom? That's about it. I remember they made Legend of Dragoon. That game sucked hard.

Peanut
06-22-2005, 08:38 PM
Anyone see that article on Gamespot where they talk about Sony lowering production of PSP's by 33%? A couple of Sony reps said it's because they can't produce the chips or something, but most industry insiders say it's because the demand isn't close to what they thought.

06-22-2005, 08:39 PM
Yeah, well, maybe if they stopped selling it as a goddamn package filled with sh*t most people don't need, maybe more people will buy it. Christ...jerks.

ThirdMarioBro
06-22-2005, 09:24 PM
They won't do it until Christmas at the earliest.

Peanut
06-22-2005, 09:29 PM
Which is when Nintendo should drop an updated OoT port on DS! Ai knows what I'm talking about!

06-22-2005, 09:31 PM
I totally know what he's talking about, and it sounds pretty tight. I wish they'd put out Ocarina of Time on DS, with little upgrades here and there. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

ThirdMarioBro
06-22-2005, 09:55 PM
Oh, there's no way they'll pass that up. They may have laid off the ports with DS lately, but you can't skimp on OoT.

ThirdMarioBro
06-24-2005, 10:54 PM
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=WarioTouched

Funniest sh*t ever. I'm not even going to ruin it by discribing it. Nintendo kiddy my ass. Something like this is NO accident.

06-24-2005, 10:57 PM
What the hell? That's ridiculous! Crazy Nintendo. What are they, putting subliminal things like Disney used to do? :lol:

Meeko
06-24-2005, 10:58 PM
And of course,for some reason it wont load on my Computer...

ThirdMarioBro
06-24-2005, 11:23 PM
What the hell? That's ridiculous! Crazy Nintendo. What are they, putting subliminal things like Disney used to do? :lol:

I dunno, but it's crazy sh*t, but I was just xpecting some distorted mess. That was far too loud and clear to be an accident. :lol:

Mecha Cow
06-25-2005, 06:11 AM
What the? That's pretty weird. It didn't sound very convincing to me though.
'I have granted kids to Hell' isn't even proper English.

ThirdMarioBro
06-25-2005, 09:08 AM
Since when in Japan known for it's proper use of Engrish ;)

Mecha Cow
06-25-2005, 09:16 AM
Touché. :lol:

06-25-2005, 09:35 AM
Oh man, Japan and their English. They can't do it. At all. I laugh at it.

ThirdMarioBro
06-27-2005, 03:21 PM
I'm pissed. Capcom will be adding more content to the PS2 version of RE4. I guarntee you people will give it higher ratings for that and ignore the screwed up graphics, something they would never do it had been ported to the Cube. *sigh* Now people are going to rebuy it for nothing.

Last Resident Evil we're ever going to see on a Nintendo system, I guarntee that. Guess that's fine with me seeing as Mikimi left.

ThirdMarioBro
06-27-2005, 10:03 PM
And the apocalypse draws ever nearer...

MTV Gets Into Gaming June 27, 2005

by: Larry McCormick

MTV announced that it has launched its own game division named... MTV Games.

MTV has been sneaking into the gaming arena bit by bit for a while, most notably with the exclusive Xbox 360 preview show that the cable network aired a few months ago. MTV is going to be taking even larger steps into gaming in the near future with the formation of a new game division called MTV Games.

The company will seek to develop original franchises with smaller development houses. MTV also plans, of course, to draw on its own stable of intellectual property and to work on titles it deems "culturally relevant" to its audience. The company also plans to be very involved with publishers and the marketing process to make sure MTV Games branded software is a success.

"In 1996 we launched MTV Films with the hopes of discovering some risky and bold stories to tell. Nine years later, I¡Çm ecstatic about what we have accomplished, and today we launch MTV Games with a similar objective -- incubating breakthrough gaming concepts that embrace creative risk-taking, and push the boundaries of interactive entertainment,¡É said Van Toffler, President, MTV Networks Music/Logo/Films Group.

"Technology, creativity and entertainment have continually adapted, expanded and melded together to create successful new industries," said Jeff Yapp, EVP, MTV Networks Music and Logo Enterprise Group. ¡ÈMTV Games is an exciting new division with enormous possibilities within an ever-evolving industry. We are forging into new territory and are enthusiastic about this unique and exciting new way of working with game publishers and independent game developers."

Look for more news on MTV Games titles in the coming months.
source: MTV - Press Release
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Yeah, I can see the big risks now...

*imagines TV commercials & pop up ads*

"COMING THIS CHRISTMAS TO YOUR PS2 & XBOX TRL: The Game, The Osbournes: The Game, Britney Spears Gets Laid: The Game, [insert music related piece of American pop trash here] :The Game FOR ONLY $59.95!!! ("hey, we gotta pay them poor developers to sit on their bums and work til their hands are numb....however they got that way, so live with the price will yah")

Looks like I'm going to need a bigger shovel when I go to Gamestop from now on...

06-27-2005, 10:13 PM
Go ahead and let them make games. They're not getting my money.

The Stryker
06-27-2005, 10:27 PM
Maybe now they'll take my suggestion for a Fear Factor Online game!

Barkworm
06-27-2005, 11:47 PM
I'm pissed. Capcom will be adding more content to the PS2 version of RE4. I guarntee you people will give it higher ratings for that and ignore the screwed up graphics, something they would never do it had been ported to the Cube. *sigh* Now people are going to rebuy it for nothing.
Well, the port is coming more than half a year later than the original game. It's only natural that they add more content. And the graphics aren't really screwed up, they actually look pretty nice (for PS2 standards).
I'm not saying that I'm going to buy the PS2 version (because I'm definitely NOT) but you have to cut Capcom some slack for trying to make a decent port.

Spitfire
06-27-2005, 11:51 PM
But their not supposed to make a decent port. The port shouldnt exist at all. The only reason they made the port is because Capcom broke the contract with Nintendo. And they probly wouldnt have even released RE 4 fror the Gamecube had they not already worked on a Cube version for so long

Barkworm
06-28-2005, 12:21 AM
The official explanation for the port was that many PS2 owners wished for it. Of course the real reason is that PS2 games make more money than GC games but since Biohazard/Resident Evil is a PS series originally there is probably some truth in it.
I can understand them, it's just sad that the GC doesn't ever get some exclusive third party support.

Spitfire
06-28-2005, 12:28 AM
The official explanation for the port was that many PS2 owners wished for it. Of course the real reason is that PS2 games make more money than GC games but since Biohazard/Resident Evil is a PS series originally there is probably some truth in it.
I can understand them, it's just sad that the GC doesn't ever get some exclusive third party support.
Well if you count it Twin Snakes is a Third Party Exclusive. And it is 900 times better then the original. And I understand that PS2 owners whine when they dont get a game but it's just plain sad to me. If Devil May Cry was on Gamecube it would have been ported to PS2. If ZOE was on GC it would be ported to PS2. And as we can see none of these games are ported to GC when they are released for PS2. Sony just seems to take and take. Most people blame Sony but we must blame the people. More people own PS2s then any of the other systems. Therefore the better games are made for it or are ported to it usually. This time around all 3 systems are being released around the same time so we will see which one does better. It's all dead even now and everyone has a chance to pick what they want. The PS2 had a year on the other two and more got bought. I dont think the PS3 will out sell the other systems but who knows anymore

Barkworm
06-28-2005, 12:32 AM
I wouldn't count Twin Snakes. It was just a remake and not even a very good one (I do own it but the graphics could be better and Kitamura's cut-scenes were awkwardly weird at some points).

Spitfire
06-28-2005, 12:35 AM
I wouldn't count Twin Snakes. It was just a remake and not even a very good one (I do own it but the graphics could be better and Kitamura's cut-scenes were awkwardly weird at some points).
Well if ya dont count that then your right O_O I was going to say Godzilla but that got ported to X-box and so did PSO. The Final Fansty game? Crystal what ever. There I thought of one ^_^

Barkworm
06-28-2005, 12:40 AM
:thumbsup:
But Crystal Chronicles sucked! :lol:
The third party support is definitely something Nintendo needs to improve somehow for the Revolution. I don't know how though. :|

ThirdMarioBro
06-28-2005, 01:27 AM
By faking out Sony, launching first, and getting a bigger titles from Namco and Capcom at launch. Frankly, Microsoft is still going to win, and Nintendo's fans alone would keep them around for another 100 years, but I think they're going to pretty much tie Sony next gen for 1st.

The thing that pisses me off about the RE4 deal, and always will, is that Capcom announced the port BEFORE the damn thing went on sale. They didn't even give the Gamecube version a chance to sell and underminded their own work. The only thing that could get them to do that was if Sony paid them to announce before the cub version's launch it to keep it from selling systems for Nintendo because we all know that game is a fu*king system seller. They wanted to keep the cube down and capcom was slezzy enough to undermind Mikimi's work and it's sales to get a kickback from Sony. THAT's why he left. Not because of the port. We all knew that would happen eventually and it's no big deal. The word exclusive isn't in Capcom's vocabulary at all. They started that trend when they broke on SNES's Street Fighter II exclusivity with Genesis because for a time they thought it was the cooler system in the people's eyes (which it was "for a time"). They backed down because SNES won, but that's the only reason. Now it's the same with Sony all over again. Capcom is a sleezy company that would undermind their own artists just to get a kickback from another company, and that's why they loose their artists, and will eventually fall. Capcom is a company that sells out. It's their nature and I will always loathe them. I support the artist, not the people who smother their work. Mikimi left, so RE is dead to me. I follow him, not those bastards that sold out his work before it was even released.

Barkworm
06-28-2005, 01:37 AM
But isn't Mikami still working with Clover?

The Stryker
06-28-2005, 01:41 AM
So To sum it all up for people who don't wanna read:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y181/Omegaknux/cAPPY.jpg

ThirdMarioBro
06-28-2005, 01:44 AM
I'd make that an avvy, but change it to

CAPCOM SUCKS...but their game's don't.

Spitfire
06-28-2005, 01:01 PM
By faking out Sony, launching first, and getting a bigger titles from Namco and Capcom at launch. Frankly, Microsoft is still going to win, and Nintendo's fans alone would keep them around for another 100 years, but I think they're going to pretty much tie Sony next gen for 1st.

The thing that pisses me off about the RE4 deal, and always will, is that Capcom announced the port BEFORE the damn thing went on sale. They didn't even give the Gamecube version a chance to sell and underminded their own work. The only thing that could get them to do that was if Sony paid them to announce before the cub version's launch it to keep it from selling systems for Nintendo because we all know that game is a fu*king system seller. They wanted to keep the cube down and capcom was slezzy enough to undermind Mikimi's work and it's sales to get a kickback from Sony. THAT's why he left. Not because of the port. We all knew that would happen eventually and it's no big deal. The word exclusive isn't in Capcom's vocabulary at all. They started that trend when they broke on SNES's Street Fighter II exclusivity with Genesis because for a time they thought it was the cooler system in the people's eyes (which it was "for a time"). They backed down because SNES won, but that's the only reason. Now it's the same with Sony all over again. Capcom is a sleezy company that would undermind their own artists just to get a kickback from another company, and that's why they loose their artists, and will eventually fall. Capcom is a company that sells out. It's their nature and I will always loathe them. I support the artist, not the people who smother their work. Mikimi left, so RE is dead to me. I follow him, not those bastards that sold out his work before it was even released.

I heard the Devil May Cry team isnt working on DMC anymore too which really scares me. Im such a diehard fan I would buy a PS3 just to play DMC 4 but if the original team isnt working on it how can it possiblely be any good? And look on the bright side! Capcom can piss off all their good artist and where do you think they will end up? Nintendo, Namco, Konami? I'd say this is good news. Maybe not for the RE series but for other companies. RE wont be the survival horror series anymore if he goes off to work somewhere else. Im sure anyone would kill to have him work on projects with them.

ThirdMarioBro
06-28-2005, 06:00 PM
You're right, but what i'd like is for those artists to found their own studos when they get pissed from being harassed and be their former master's competition. Then they can put their games wherever they damn well please. They deserve that much. It's their art, their vision, and their ideals, and if we're not careful, we're going to wind up with the modified Hollywood system where it's the publisher's way or the highway.

I fear that everyday because creative freedom is what makes video games fun. Without fun, what is there.

I mean, look at Takeshi Hirai. He made Panel de Pon, Meteos and Lummies. He goes where he wants and just makes fun stuff, and a publisher publishes it. Nintendo liked it so they took the publishing duties for Meteos, but they didn't mess with his work at all. He made it, they sold it, everyone's happy. That's how it should work.

The reason Nintendo & Microsoft keep all their studios and developers is because they learned not to fu*k with them. Nintendo fu*ked with Rare and what happened? They left. Sony fu*ked with Team Ninja, and what happened? They left. Capcom fu*ked with Mikimi, and he left too. The more this happens, the more publishers will know to treat their people with respect.

I really hope DMC works out for ya though Spitfire. I know it's probobly screwed without the original team (like Resident Evil), but for your sake, I hope it works out. :( Fans deserve to have their games without this political game bullsh*t.

Mecha Cow
06-29-2005, 03:26 AM
On a different note, has anyone played Another Code: Two Memories for DS yet?

I was going to buy Kirby's Canvas Curse, but it seems Nintendo wants to play the Release-Nothing-For-Ten-Months-And-Then-Release-Everything-At-The-End-Of-The-Year game again, since it looks like Kirby isn't coming out here until November (Around the same time as Zelda, Mario Kart, M&L2, etc. - God damn it).

So yeah, I was thinking of buying Another Code to entertain me in the meantime, but I'd like to know if it's any good. I've heard mixed opinions, so I thought I'd ask here.

(Didn't think this deserved a thread of its own; if it does, feel free to split it off)

ThirdMarioBro
06-29-2005, 03:45 AM
Well, I'd help, but sadly it hasn't come out here yet at all. They're playing that same game here with us as well, just with different titles.

DS is region free. You outta just import Kirby.

I can tell you from the E3 demo that another Code/Trace memory is a cool game. I can't say anything about the story, but the interface was intuitive and the game itself played well. There's no bosses and stuff. It's more of a mystery/adventure game driven by story and such, but I've heard the story is well written.

Spitfire
06-29-2005, 03:27 PM
I did it O_O A frustrating 40 minutes and almost 500 smash coins later I have completed All Star Mode on Very Hard with Ganondrof. All I got was a message telling me I did so and a Mew trophy but now I know Im the best among my friends. Man it was insane! O_O My friends were playing DS and they all actually stopped to watch me fight the Game and Watchs. I got so mad at one point I pounded on my computer desk so hard I think I bruised my hand pretty badly. *rubs hand* Im gona go relax now. Ill take a picture later

ThirdMarioBro
06-29-2005, 03:47 PM
Hell yeah man, welcome to the Smash Bros elite. :D

Peanut
06-29-2005, 06:34 PM
Dude, you never go on MSN anymore! I'm going to stab you!

ThirdMarioBro
06-30-2005, 02:26 AM
I do what I can. My time is rather stretched as of late. I'll try to be on more often though.

Spitfire
06-30-2005, 04:05 AM
Hell yeah man, welcome to the Smash Bros elite. :D
Thank you ^_^ Like I said wasnt easy but now that I have beaten it the game seems easier to me. When I use Ganondorf atleast

XERO
06-30-2005, 07:02 AM
I actually used Mario. :lol:

Deathknight
06-30-2005, 04:47 PM
I came very close once. I use Marth. Was on the last set of 3s, started with only 60% damage. Marth VS Link, Falco, and I forget the last person. I had a decent beginning for the battle only taking about 20 damage but then Falco jumps up and jump kicked me and I died with only about 80% damage. I almost smashed my Gamecube controller in half. Though I still don't think beating comps in any situation makes you elite. My friend used to be a very competitive player and could hold his own against most of the pros yet he lost to a level 9 Peach on Temple. Player vs comp and Player vs Player are completely different but in the end true skill is shown in Player VS Player. I had one and only use for comps, to develop basic skills. Though the one thing I'll never understand is how to L cancel.

Spitfire
06-30-2005, 04:50 PM
Not to sound cocky but I beat my friends all the time too haha I rarely ever lose to them. And sometimes I help them get the special trophys like Crazy Hand and Giga Bowser. Im still probly not that good but amoung my friends I can say ego free that Im the best. One of my friends, who uses Mario, gets the best of me sometimes. I can understand what your saying about Player Vs Player and computers but an AI can be programed not to make mistakes so I find that more diffcult then playing against my friends. But that's just me

ThirdMarioBro
07-01-2005, 02:13 AM
Dude, you never go on MSN anymore! I'm going to stab you!

I was on MSN tonight and you wern't :P :lol:

http://ssv.jaccinc.com/vgmv.html

This guy makes music videos from old games. They brought back some memories. His Smash Bros video is fu*king legendary though.

Deathknight
07-01-2005, 07:48 PM
yeah, the keyboard there is can. However, that option isn't available.

07-02-2005, 03:31 PM
Time for some news from everyone's favorite Jap lover.

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Revolution to launch post-PS3?
Nintendo president Satoru Iwata says that the Revolution's release might fall behind its competitors.

TOKYO--During Nintendo's shareholders meeting on Wednesday, company president Satoru Iwata disclosed that the Revolution's launch might fall behind that of its rivals.

During a question-and-answer session, stockholders asked Iwata if there was any danger that Nintendo would lag behind Microsoft and Sony in entering the next-generation console war. He gave the following cryptic response: "There is no possibility that the Revolution's launch will fall behind by too much, but there might be some small changes [in its release schedule]."

Until today, Nintendo has said only that the Revolution will be released in 2006 in North America, without specifying any date. Iwata's comments indicate that the console could appear after the launch of Sony's PlayStation 3, which is currently slated for a spring 2006 launch in the US. Microsoft's Xbox 360 will arrive on store shelves during the 2005 holiday season worldwide.

In an effort to quell investors' fears, Iwata assured the crowd that Nintendo is prepared for the next-generation console war with a "long-term plan on what kinds of titles will be released at what stage" for the Revolution. The company has announced a number of first-party games for the machine, including new installments in its Super Mario, Legend of Zelda, Smash Bros., Metroid, and Donkey Kong franchises.

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This can't be good. I think it would be better if they released it sometime in the 3rd quarter of 2006, but if they do release it during the holiday season, that would be good.

ThirdMarioBro
07-02-2005, 04:08 PM
Honestly, I think Nintendo is fu*king up again. If they launched month for month with Sony, it'd be interesting, but remember, this is Nintendo, the company that releases jack sh*t all year, and then blows a whopping 21 titles in the Christmas season, as if anyone can afford all of that at once.

What they'll do is let Sony launch mid 2006. Then, they'll sit on their ass and release some token titles throughout summer for Gamecube (stuff like Nintendo Puzzle Collection so they can claim they're supplying innovative new content when in reality they just sat on that poor game to hold it til Gameube's on life support). Then, Christmas comes, and they finally release Revolution, but then Sony drops the price on the PS3 just in time for the good games to start coming out to stick it to Nintendo. Yeah, it'd cost Sony a fortune, but it would be the first step twords Sony pushing Nintendo, the company that raises the bar on Sony every year, out of the market, which to them is worth billions. Nintendo, having put themselves in the position from the get go, would be completely, royally, 100% fu*ked. Hell, by then the 360 could afford to from it;s price too.

Now, what I'm hoping is that this is all bullsh*t, and Nintendo is playing the mind game with Sony and matches their launch date to at least two weeks. Microsoft is already going to win this by the 3/4 year lead anyway, but who cares. It's money that matters, but you have to have an install base to make $$$. If they let Sony beat them by a whole season, Christmas or not, they going to get their asses kicked, posible to the point of puling out. This generation could last 6, possibly 7 years. They fu*k up at the start, and they're done, period.

And I simply don't think I can take that.

Don't blow this Nintendo. No one will accept a Revolution in gaming when they alread spent all their money on the crappy launch titles and $500 worth of hardware 4 months earlier.

*steps down from Soapbox*

That's my rant for July. I really don't think they're this stupid. I just don't. But if they prove me wrong, then there is no hope.

*stares at Rev preorder reciept and prays*

Mecha Cow
07-02-2005, 04:43 PM
Yeah, I'd like to know what's going on here.

Nintendo had made it pretty clear in the months before E³ that they were quite aware that they could not afford another late launch. But recently it seems like they've stopped caring and that they'll release the Revolution when they want to release it.

Something's not right here. They're not that stupid. I hope. Nintendo has made plenty of mistakes in the past but I can't recall them ever making the same ones twice.

We'll see.

ThirdMarioBro
07-02-2005, 06:40 PM
Something's not right here. They're not that stupid. I hope. Nintendo has made plenty of mistakes in the past but I can't recall them ever making the same ones twice.

Exactly. That's Sega's job :lol: :P

Demented Utrom
07-02-2005, 07:09 PM
Exactly. That's Sega's job :lol: :P

Yeah get this the Sonic Gems Collection. The Streets of Rage games, that were supposed to be on the North American verison.
Instead Sega of America, is putting on the 2 Vectorman games.
The Streets of Rage games, are only a Japanese release now.

That's the end of that purchase.
Well on to Zelda Twilight Princess, the has been finished already.
The Demo had actual in game music, on it.
To ThirdMario Bro.
Did Zelda have decent controls, or stiff controls.

Nintendo, always waits till after to release their big stuff when the console is on it's last legs.
This time the Gamecube, is still going to be supported when Revolution comes out.
I usually wait to buy the new consoles, when more games come out for it.

Deathknight
07-02-2005, 07:58 PM
PS3 is definitely going to stay at the starting price for a long time so I wouldn't worry so much about price. Anyway, Nintendo entering the console war late is not such a good idea. Sony and Microsoft will have a jump start which is what could be their downfall. Also, TMB, can you fix your signature pic, it's making me scroll left and right. I'd really appreciate it (don't tell me to up my resolution.)

ThirdMarioBro
07-02-2005, 08:19 PM
Yeah get this the Sonic Gems Collection. The Streets of Rage games, that were supposed to be on the North American verison.
Instead Sega of America, is putting on the 2 Vectorman games.
The Streets of Rage games, are only a Japanese release now.

WHAT!!!!!!

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!

Damn you Sega. Fu*k them, I'm not taking two Vectorman when I could have had all three Street's of Rage. Probobly saving those for some damn Genesis Classics collection American exclusive. Fu*k them and their sh*tty collections. Goddamn localization.

*marches ass to local Game store to get Streets of Rage 2 & 3*

Thank you Demented Utrom. You just saved me $40.00 I would've wasted.

Spitfire
07-02-2005, 08:31 PM
Speaking of collections I'm trying to get an RE one started...but it seems impossible. I mean Code Veroncia is so damn rare I didnt even believe it was actually on Gamecube until I saw it on a bunch of game sites. Ive never seen RE 2 in the store and the RE 3 I saw was 30 bucks alone O_O Zero and REmake should be easy to get but the others Im not so sure on. Ebay has lots with all of them in it but they go for a 1000 bucks usually. I dont have that kinda cash :ohwell: I would just get them for PS1 but I dont want to cause my PS2 messes up with PS1 games sometimes. That and the games look like crap. I think my PS2 makes PS1 graphics look even worse then they normally would be

07-02-2005, 09:21 PM
I got a RE collection. I have every game with the exception of the Survivor and Outbreak games. I played both, but wasn't a big fan. I got Code Veronica for Dreamcast back when it came out. The game isn't good, either, but it still follows the original storyline. I have the REmake, too. That game is great.

Spitfire
07-05-2005, 12:56 AM
PLAY YAN MAKE ME HAPPY O_O
http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-15366-2094-x-x-x

Some one has to know, and has to tell me how the heck they got RE 4 on the DS :o

ThirdMarioBro
07-06-2005, 01:05 AM
July 05, 2005

by: Matt Saunderson

Sonic Gems Collection won't feature Streets of Rage as an extra.

Sega of America has announced that Streets of Rage will not be an extra in Sonic Gems Collection in North America due to the game’s violence not conforming to the standards set by the ESRB for the E rating, which Sega is aiming for in the Sonic Gems Collection.

"While Streets of Rage will ship with Sonic Gems Collection in other markets, the more mature game does not conform to the E-rating of Sonic the Hedgehog games in North America," Sega said in a statement.

It is not known if SEGA had considered allowing Sonic Gems Collection to move out of the E-rating and into the recently created E10+ rating or even to the T rating.

source: Nintendojo
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Goddamn american censorship. So THIS is why I don't get my Streets of Rage, because "Sonic is for the kiddiez, and we don't want them to see teh violenceOMG!1!"

I hate the ESRB. I really do. Time to import. Fu*k the American game market. I want my random Street Violence button mashing fun where the baddies are strippers with whips and the music is thumping in your soul. Bite me American censorship.

07-06-2005, 01:07 AM
Oh well. Start looking around yard sales and ebay for the originals. I prefer originals, anyway. Wait...you know what? I have the original Streets of Rage games laying around here somewhere! I gotta go look for them!

XERO
07-06-2005, 06:19 AM
I'm only missing the third one. :lol:

The other 2 I have and vow to keep as long as the circuits remain intact.

ThirdMarioBro
07-06-2005, 12:08 PM
Sega, Secret Level Recreate Game For Xbox 360 and PS3

July 06, 2005

by: Jamil Matheny

Sega has made an joint-partnership with Secret Level to recreate a classic Sega game for the Xbox 360 and PS3.

SEGA of America, Inc. and SEGA Europe Ltd. today announced a partnership with Secret Level, a San Francisco-based development studio, to recreate a classic SEGA franchise for PlayStation 3 (PS3) computer entertainment system and the Xbox 360 video game and entertainment system from Microsoft. The deal signifies an expanding SEGA network of development partners creating Western content for current and next-generation hardware platforms.

Under the terms of the worldwide exclusive deal, SEGA will manage all sales, marketing and distribution activities and work with Secret Level to supervise ongoing game development. Secret Level is best known for creating Americas Army: Rise of a Soldier (PlayStation 2 & Xbox), Magic: The Gathering Battlegrounds (Xbox & PC), Star Wars Jedi Starfighter (Xbox), and the Unreal Engine for the PlayStation®2 computer entertainment system and GameCube.

"SEGA will become a leading publisher on the next generation of console hardware by marketing great Western-developed content that includes properties from a rich portfolio of SEGA games," said Simon Jeffery, President and COO, SEGA of America. "The talented design team at Secret Level has demonstrated innovation in game development and has a history of technical achievements that will help SEGA reinvigorate a vintage and highly commercial franchise."

"We are excited to be working with SEGA and honored to bring one of their classic franchises to the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360," said Jeremy Gordon, President, Secret Level. "SEGA's strength as a publisher and their history of great iconic franchises make them a perfect partner for a growing independent developer like Secret Level."

This agreement, along with recent partnerships with developer Silicon Knights; Monolith Productions (project: Condemned: Criminal Origins); Sports Interactive (project: Football Manager 2006); SUMO (Project: Virtua Tennis: World Tour); Pseudo Interactive (project: Full Auto); and the acquisition of esteemed developer, The Creative Assembly (project: Spartan: Total Warrior) continues to highlight SEGA's emphasis on Western development.

Both companies have decided not to announce product, platform, or release details at this time.
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Notice that Revolution isn't getting anything in regards to third party games? Nintendo may have finally done it for good. *sigh*, I guess I don't buy Nintendo consoles for third party games anyway, but it's still sad.

Anyway, I can almost guarntee you it's Vectorman. That's likely the reason Sega of America took out Streets of Rage and replaced them with Vectorman. Product Tie-in. They want to pair Vectorman with Sonic so people will remember him, then release a next gen update from some unknown developer.

In my book, things are looking down everywhere.

Mecha Cow
07-06-2005, 01:54 PM
Well, Nintendo has really been doing their best to improve their third-party relations lately, so I don't really think they are to blame anymore (Granted, the fact that nothing is known about the Revolution so far probably isn't helping, but they have to draw the line somewhere).

Let's hope things will look better for the Revolution soon.

ThirdMarioBro
07-06-2005, 04:17 PM
The Rumor Mill: Hosted by TMB
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I've been reading around and I've come to believe that the reason Nintendo has shunned standard HD is for this. We all know that it pulls the hell out of system resources to display a game in HD. Polygon count and framerate drop quite a bit to get the higher resoultion. Now, HD has nothing to do with widescreen. Hel, N64 could pull that off easily. What I'm reading is Nintendo has developed their own proprietary form of HD that displays at resolutions somewhere between 720 & 1080p, is digital, but is done in a way that dosen't kill system resources, thus allowing Revolution to accomplish the same level of graphics as the other two machines, but at less power because no power is being wasted to conform to standard HD. Basically, the Rev could match PS3 & 360 visually at a slower clock speed ect.

I mean hell, it's obvious Nintendo can balance power amazingly. I mean, Xbox is WAY mor epowerful than Gamecube and still RE4 blows the sh*t out of almost everything on the system. I think we've all misjudged Revolution and it has the ability to crank out these visuals but at less cost and without all those extra componets. Frankly, it could well pull faster framerates than the others with proprietary technology.

I'm going to stick with this story until I know somethingfor sure.

Demented Utrom
07-07-2005, 01:29 AM
The Rumor Mill: Hosted by TMB
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I've been reading around and I've come to believe that the reason Nintendo has shunned standard HD is for this. We all know that it pulls the hell out of system resources to display a game in HD. Polygon count and framerate drop quite a bit to get the higher resoultion. Now, HD has nothing to do with widescreen. Hel, N64 could pull that off easily. What I'm reading is Nintendo has developed their own proprietary form of HD that displays at resolutions somewhere between 720 & 1080p, is digital, but is done in a way that dosen't kill system resources, thus allowing Revolution to accomplish the same level of graphics as the other two machines, but at less power because no power is being wasted to conform to standard HD. Basically, the Rev could match PS3 & 360 visually at a slower clock speed ect.

I mean hell, it's obvious Nintendo can balance power amazingly. I mean, Xbox is WAY mor epowerful than Gamecube and still RE4 blows the sh*t out of almost everything on the system. I think we've all misjudged Revolution and it has the ability to crank out these visuals but at less cost and without all those extra componets. Frankly, it could well pull faster framerates than the others with proprietary technology.

I'm going to stick with this story until I know somethingfor sure.

It depends how much they are willing to pay for HD graphics.
Nintendo, might think it costs too much money to develop HD graphics for all the games.

Peanut
07-07-2005, 09:14 AM
What the hell does 3/4 of that have to do with anything?

ThirdMarioBro
07-08-2005, 12:26 PM
Japanese Top Ten Sellers List July 08, 2005

by: Chris Playo

Check out the top ten Japanese games for the week between June 27th, and July 3rd.

Check out the top ten best selling Japanese video games below, along with the sales figures for all systems.

Top Ten Software

1- PS2: Gundam: True Odyssey, Bandai, 85,989
2- DS: Yawaraka Atama Juku, Nintendo, 72,656
3- PS2: GENJI, SCE, 70,082
4- PS2: Kagero II: Dark Illusion, ACT, 61,949
5- GBA: The King of Beetle Mushiking: Greatest Champion, Sega, 58,751
6- PS2: Pachinko Slot Perfect Capture: Onihama Bakusou Gurentai - Gekitou Hen, Success, 31,684
7- DS: DS Training For Adults, Nintendo, 27,066
8- PS2: Mai-Hime: The Another, Marvelous Interactive, 25,366
9- GBA: Marheaven: Knockin' on Heaven's Door, Konami, 24,809
10-PSP: Pachinko Slot! Fist of the North Star Portable, Sega, 19,700

Console and Handheld Sales

1 - Nintendo DS - 35,083
2 - Playstation 2 - 29,992
3 - PSP - 21,901
4 - GBA SP - 12,509
5 - GameCube - 2,602
6 - GBA - 310
7 - Xbox - 182

Be sure to stick with the Advanced Media Network for continued sales coverage of all systems as well as the lastest news about the video game industry.

DS Pwns again. heh :P

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Check out what we know about the online component of Animal Crossing on the Nintendo DS.

In a recent interview with Nintendo of Europe, producer of Animal Crossing DS, Katsuya Eguchi and Takashi Tezuka, General Manager of the EAD Software Designing Department revealed several new deatails about the upcoming DS title.

The two claim that their are many aspects of the single player mode that players will find both new and exciting. In addition, the game will feature a new set of characters, furniture, and even buildings. Tom Nook is also set to make an appearance, as he runs an even bigger department store. Nook's store is set to come equiped with a hair salon where you can customize the hair of your character.

The interview also brought with it the first details regarding the online component of the title. It is now known that the game's internal clock will still function during wifi gameplay, and will also be dictated by the host player. Up to three other users can enter the host's town, where additional new features of the game will take effect.

Eguchi claims that "As for the difference between playing with friends at home or over the Internet, the point of the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection is to bring people, who are normally very far away, closer, so that it feels as if you were playing together in the same room. Of course, when you are playing the game by yourself, you can go fishing – but if you’re playing with someone else, both of you can go fishing and you can perhaps create your own rules for a fishing competition, like ‘Let’s play for 10 minutes and see who catches the most fish.’ This is exactly the kind of communication that is so important to the game: establishing rules, negotiating, and coming to an agreement. You can go and play tag, or hide and seek, and it allows the two players to kind of customise the environment, the situation that they’re going to be playing, which allows for a lot of different gaming experiences.”

Be sure to stick with DS Advanced for continued coverage of Animal Crossing DS.

4 people in the same town? Kickass! I was worried it would limited to two. *whew* All your trees are belong to me. :D

DrSpengler
07-08-2005, 12:55 PM
Man, Animal Crossing was one of my guilty pleasures (so embarassing) but after I'd paid off Nook there wasn't much else for me to do. This might spur me into buying a DS. Animal Crossing is exactly the kind of game to play when you're waiting in line or at the dentist or something. Cool.

07-11-2005, 09:53 PM
Another update from the azn lover of the boards. I don't know if anyone played the original Lunar games, but there's a sequel coming out for DS! This is the first I heard of it, so I had to post it.

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Lunar: Dragon Song
A first look at the US version of the Nintendo DS RPG coming from Ubisoft.
by Craig Harris

June 29, 2005 - Ubisoft has revealed that it will publish Lunar: Dragon Song for the Nintendo DS, an dual-screen exclusive sequel to the Lunar series that's spanned multiple systems including the Sega CD, PlayStation, Saturn, even on the Game Boy Advance in a portable remake of the popular Lunar: Silver Star Story.. Lunar: Dragon Song will be the first original Lunar sequel in a decade.

Lunar: Dragon Song takes place a thousand years before the events that unfolded in Lunar: The Silver Star. Here, players control Jian and his group of friends Gabryel, Lucia, Flora, and Rufus battling invading demons, all the while unfolding the twisting plot of the adventure.

The game, developed by Japan Art Media in conjunction with GameArts, will be the first official fantasy RPG to hit the Nintendo DS in the US. The game will feature a series of new mechanics to the familiar genre, including a Light & Dark system that require players to transform dark enemies into beings of light in order to defeat them. A Battle Card system is also in place, where players collect cards of specific power and enhance their party members with their abilities.

Lunar: Dragon Song will support both the Nintendo DS system's wireless capabilities as well as its microphone function during the gameplay. Using wireless, players will be able to share rare and unique items with other players in their own games. With the microphone, players can command specific situations by giving orders directly into the built-in mike.

Ubisoft expects to ship Lunar: Dragon Song this September. Hit the media link below to check out the first US screenshots of the Nintendo DS adventure in action.

Source (http://ds.ign.com/articles/629/629969p1.html)

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Quite frankly, I'm really looking forward to this. The old games were the most challenging games ever. I dreaded every dungeon I came across, but I begged for more. And when it was all said and done, I was so proud of myself. Such a wonderful series.

ThirdMarioBro
07-11-2005, 10:13 PM
Haha, this is going to be great. I played the originals on Sega CD and they are BRUTAL. But, that's a good thing. I guess that's a total of 15 DS games I must buy this year.

Spitfire
07-13-2005, 01:04 PM
Hey fellow Nintendo fans I need some help >_< You guys know more about import games and stuff then I do. I need a list of 100 only for Gamecube games with as many good ones on it that I can include. Some guy and me are argueing and he made a list of over 100 PS2 games, but he did it wrong and included stuff on multiple systems. And told me to make a list too. So I'm going to show him up and do it. But I need some help. Here's what I have so far

I added remake games because in all fairness their remakes, and I added games that were on GC first before being ported to other systems later

Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Metroid Prime
Super Mario Sunshine
Super Monkey Ball
Resident Evil 4
Paper Mario 2: The Thousand-Year Door
Pokemon Colosseum
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Super Monkey Ball 2
Harvest Moon 2: A Wonderful Life
Animal Crossing
Pikmin
Pikmin 2
Mario Power Tennis
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
Mario Party 4
Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes
Wario Ware, Inc.: Mega Party Games
Luigis Mansion
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
Star Fox: Assault
The Legend Of Zelda: The Four Swords Adventures
Mario Party 5
Mario Party 6
The Legend Of Zelda: The Wind Waker
Wario World
F-Zero GX
Pokemon Channel
Baten Kaitos
Donkey Konga 2: Hit Song Parade (Solus)
Donkey Konga
Resident Evil 0
Resident Evil 0 2 *Japan Only*
Bloody Roar: Primal Fury
Fire Emblem
Advance Wars: Under Fire
Sonic Adventure 2: Battle
Sonic Adventure DX: Director's Cut
Resident Evil
Phansty Star Online
Viewtiful Joe
Space Raiders
Godzilla: Destory All Monsters Melee
Zoids: Battle Legends
Tales of Symphonia
TMNT: Mutant Melee
WWE Day of Reckoning 2
WWE Wrestlemania X8
1080: Avalanche
Kirbys Air Ride
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
Star Fox Adventures

Barkworm
07-13-2005, 01:13 PM
Chibi Robot (http://cube.ign.com/objects/550/550539.html) has just come out in Japan and it's supposed to be great.

Dinny
07-13-2005, 01:32 PM
Hey fellow Nintendo fans I need some help >_< You guys know more about import games and stuff then I do. I need a list of 100 only for Gamecube games with as many good ones on it that I can include. Some guy and me are argueing and he made a list of over 100 PS2 games, but he did it wrong and included stuff on multiple systems. And told me to make a list too. So I'm going to show him up and do it. But I need some help. Here's what I have so far

I added remake games because in all fairness their remakes, and I added games that were on GC first before being ported to other systems later

Just a couple of things, first of all, the upcoming Gamecube Advance Wars has been renamed to "Battalion Wars" :D and Double Dash, Viewtiful Joe and Soul Calibur 2 (I know it's not an exclusive title, but the Gamecube version has Link) should be on that list. Possibly Tales of Symphonia also.

Peanut
07-13-2005, 02:27 PM
The two Star Wars: Rouge Squadron games.

ThirdMarioBro
07-14-2005, 11:08 AM
Japanese Hardware Sales...

Hardware:
DS: 41,503 (1,112,952)
PS2: 28,711 (1,128,763)
PSP: 20,711 (1,020,458 )
GBASP: 11,176 (401,927)
GC: 2,273 (127,226)
GBA: 289 (14,025)
Xbox: 179 (8,185)

Yes, it's outselling the PSP by more than double. Absoultely, positively, fu*king pwned.

*edit*

New Mario Kart DS Details

July 12, 2005

by: Chris Playo

NEW DETAILS: Check out some new information about Mario Kart DS.

In a recent interview with Hideki Konno, the producer of Mario Kart DS,several new details about the upcoming title were revealed. It is now known that the game will feature over thirty courses. Gamer's can also look foward to the fact that over half of these courses will be new additions to the series.

Konno also stated that up to eight users can play the title locally from a single cartridge. While in multiplayer mode, it will now be possible for each user to select the same character. For instance, up to eight gamers can select to play as Luigi if they so desire, as the game is set to display the name of the player above the racer.

New details were also given regarding the game's online mode. The game will offer an online experience for up to four users. The game's battle mode will also be making an appearance online, although cooperative play will not be supported.

Fans of the series can also expect improvements in the games Artificial Inteligence. Usage of the touch screen was also discussed. It will be possible to draw decals onto any of the games karts and touch screen steering will be available.

Be sure to keep in touch with DS Advanced for continued coverage of this developing story.


source: gba.n64Europe

Well, I can finally have a clone race. 'Bout time. Also, it's good to have the player names above the characters. Now we can see who we're killing. Also, it's just amazing they're going to have so many tracks, especially after the pathetic amount that was in Double Dash. Touch screen stering can piss off, but the ability to decorate your Kart is VERY welcome. I do hope they fix that Kart weight balance problem that was present at E3 though.

Best Mario Kart yet. :D :D

Spitfire
07-14-2005, 01:16 PM
Thank You guys, I still don't think I can do it >_< This is all I have. I need 34 more and I don't know what to use >_<

1) Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
2) Metroid Prime
3) Super Mario Sunshine
4) Super Monkey Ball
5) Paper Mario 2: The Thousand-Year Door
6) Pokemon Colosseum
7) Super Smash Bros. Melee
8 ) Super Monkey Ball 2
9) Harvest Moon 2: A Wonderful Life
10) Animal Crossing
11) Pikmin
12) Pikmin 2
13) Mario Power Tennis
14) Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
15) Mario Party 4
16) Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes
17) Wario Ware, Inc.: Mega Party Games
18 ) Luigis Mansion
19) Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
20) Star Fox: Assault
21) The Legend Of Zelda: The Four Swords Adventures
22) Mario Party 5
23) Mario Party 6
24) The Legend Of Zelda: The Wind Waker
25) Wario World
26) F-Zero GX
27) Pokemon Channel
28 ) Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean
29) Donkey Konga 2: Hit Song Parade (Solus)
30) Donkey Konga
31) Resident Evil 0
32) Resident Evil 0 2 *Japan Only*
33) Bloody Roar: Primal Fury
34) Fire Emblem
35) Sonic Adventure 2: Battle
36) Sonic Adventure DX: Director's Cut
37) Resident Evil
38 ) Phansty Star Online
39) Viewtiful Joe
40) Space Raiders
41) Godzilla: Destory All Monsters Melee
42) Zoids: Battle Legends
43) Tales of Symphonia
44) TMNT: Mutant Melee
45) WWE Day of Reckoning 2
46) WWE Wrestlemania X8
47) 1080: Avalanche
48 ) Kirbys Air Ride
49) Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
50) Star Fox Adventures
51) Chibi Robot
52) Mario Kart: Double Dash
53) Star Wars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron II
54) Star Wars Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike
55) Mr. Driller: Drill Land
56) Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem
57) Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg
58 ) Bomberman Generation
59) Custom Robo
60) Gotcha Force
61) The Legend of Zelda Collector's Edition
62) Rave Master
63) Zatch Bell
64) Lupin III: Umi ni Kieta Hihou
65) Spirits & Spells

Nturtle
07-14-2005, 05:55 PM
*creeps in*

Hey, has anyone heard anything new whatsoever about Mother 3/Earthbound 2 for GBA? The total silence around this game is a bit scary considering the fate of EB64.....

ThirdMarioBro
07-14-2005, 06:50 PM
Yeah, I heard of it. It's pretty much certain that it will never make it over here whatsoever. Sad, but true. NoA won't release them becaus they "say" thye won't sell, but fans of Smash Bros could at least warrent the translation job. Lazy jerks. *sigh* I want to play it too.

07-14-2005, 07:01 PM
Import for the win! I love Earthbound. I got the SNES cartridge...waaaaay over there *points to it* right next to my Final Fantasy III (VI). I'd love to play another Earthbound game.

Jed
07-15-2005, 05:29 AM
Thank You guys, I still don't think I can do it >_< This is all I have. I need 34 more and I don't know what to use >_<

Don't suppose Sonic Mega Collection counts does it? :ohwell:

Nturtle
07-15-2005, 07:32 AM
Yeah, I heard of it. It's pretty much certain that it will never make it over here whatsoever. Sad, but true. NoA won't release them becaus they "say" thye won't sell, but fans of Smash Bros could at least warrent the translation job. Lazy jerks. *sigh* I want to play it too.
That's what I was afraid of. If Mother 3 doen't make it to the states, I'll learn Japanese and import it. Mother fans have been ripped off way too many times.

07-15-2005, 07:46 PM
Oh yeah, just learn Japanese overnight. I wish it were that easy. :lol:

Since we're on the topic of games, has anyone played Killer7 yet? I know Barkworm was looking forward to it, and it looked promising, but I have yet to pick it up and try it.

DrSpengler
07-15-2005, 07:58 PM
Oh yeah, just learn Japanese overnight. I wish it were that easy. :lol:

Since we're on the topic of games, has anyone played Killer7 yet? I know Barkworm was looking forward to it, and it looked promising, but I have yet to pick it up and try it.

I learned Japanese overnight.

Oh wait, type-o. I meant to say "3 years".

And in regards to Killer 7, the webmaster of VGcats had this to say:

Also am I the only person who thinks Killer 7 is crap? You ride the rails like Time Crisis only.. Without the light gun, boring. Dress it up in all the fancy style you want. At the end of the day it still sucks.

Take it for what you will.

ThirdMarioBro
07-15-2005, 08:54 PM
Killer 7 is cool. It's like an old arcade shooter mixed with cocaine. The control elements are managable, and it's worth it just to defeat enemys by slitting your wrists and spraying them by using every 4 letter word in the book. Absoultely awesome. Buy it now.

Oh, and get the gamecube version, not for the novelity of hear "F*ck you" come out of the system, but because there's no load times compared to the ch*tty PS2 version. Oh, and it looks better , but that's a given.

ThirdMarioBro
07-16-2005, 12:27 AM
Go buy the latest issue of the Official Playstation Magazine. In it, there is an article where they talk about the DS and the PSP. Remember this is the OFFICIAL Playstation Magazine. They then go to talk about how the PSP has absoultely no original awesome software, say that the DS is kicking it's ass in sales, then claim it as the better handheld.

Bundle up people. Hell has frozen over.

Barkworm
07-16-2005, 12:28 AM
I've read every review of Killer 7 that I could find and it's funny how hotly debated it is. I think I'll buy it when I have more money, I just can't pass up that kind of style.

ThirdMarioBro
07-16-2005, 01:42 AM
I buy any game that looks like it was designed while th director was on a binge trip. Awesome stuff. Whacko stuff. Gotta love that Japanese flair in design.

ThirdMarioBro
07-18-2005, 12:32 AM
Well folks, I did it. I had some sh*tty old tapes for awhile, but forget them. Also forget those crapped out old 120x240 15fps recordings floating around the web. I found HD Master quality recordings of the classic Nintendo animated series "The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3" from 1990, and "The New Super Mario World" from 1991, which aired on NBC Kids. These HD recordings came from England, in the official final airing in history of the series on the POP network.

Neither will ever be aired again anywhere in the world, ever. That was it, but people recorded them stright to their computers and I have the Xvid encoded HD rips right here that look better than the original airings in the 90's.

Next time I send out any packages, I'll be sure to include them with it. It'd take a month to send these mugs over the web as file sizes are in the gigs.

With the Super Show and Zelda coming out this fall, and the rips of the final airing of Captain N being encoded as I speak by preservaton groups, this concludes the fight for preservation of classic Nintendo animation. The second two Mario series, and Captain N may never be offically released, but when you can have all of them in HD, commercial free, and UNCUT at the same quality and bitrate the DVD's would have been anyway, who needs DVD's? I'm so happy right now.

Now to make some fancy DVD cases.

Oh, and before I forget, the reason Sony Music is releasing the Super Show is because Sony holds the copyrights to all of the cover songs in the episodes, and if any one else were to release it, they would have to be taken out. Since the DVD's are to be uncut, they let Sony release the boxset to prevent the episodes from being altered. Now it makes sense, and good for them.

Jed
07-18-2005, 10:37 AM
It's never gonna be shown again? :( That sucks, I used to watch it on POP when I was up early, it was the only halfway decent thing on in the morning. The last one I saw was the one where Koopa opens the restaraunt and makes everyone fat from eating :P

On an unrelated note, could someone tell me how much DS games are in the US? Specifically Metroid, I'm looking to get it while I'm over there on holiday. Are there any stores that sell them relatively cheaper than others?

07-18-2005, 10:39 AM
The games range from $30-35 USD. I don't think they go any higher than that. We have laws that prohibit competitive prices, so just about all stores sell the games for the same price, at least the new ones.

Spitfire
07-18-2005, 11:48 AM
Is $84 bucks a good price for
Resident Evil 2
Resient Evil Nemesis
Resident Evil: Code Veronica
On Gamecube? Their all out of print >_< And that's the cheapest I can get them anywhere on the net new or used. Does anyone have these? Are they worth it? Or should I just get the PS1 versions

07-18-2005, 12:25 PM
I've played all three on the Gamecube, and they're exactly the same as the originals. Get the originals for much cheaper, and you'll thank yourself for it.

Spitfire
07-18-2005, 12:43 PM
I've played all three on the Gamecube, and they're exactly the same as the originals. Get the originals for much cheaper, and you'll thank yourself for it.
Oh alrighty then, I kinda wanted all the main RE games on Gamecube because my PS2 is retarded with PS1 games but if their exactly the same then forget it ><
Thank You! You just saved me a ton of money and now I can just go buy all the games at the same store and I don't have to pay for shipping ^_^

07-18-2005, 12:49 PM
I almost felt the same way when they came out for Gamecube, and thought there was something special about the new ones, but I found out they didn't. I had the originals already from back in the day when they came out, so there was no reason to buy the Gamecube versions. It saved me tons of money.

Spitfire
07-18-2005, 12:53 PM
That makes sense, I wouldn't want to re-buy anything either...I kinda felt ripped off paying 40 bucks for Twin Snakes as it is. Yes it's a good update but I already beat the freaking crap out of the first one...plus they took a few things out of it. As they added things, it's good they took out Otacon dieing though, that's a major plothole if you saved Meryl haha

Anyways has anyone played RE 0? I havn't had a chance and I wanted to know if I should check it out. I'll either rent it or buy it. I like REmake and the others alot so is it worth it?

07-18-2005, 12:56 PM
Resident Evil 0 is a classic game, and it's also cheap as hell now. I'd recommend buying it. It plays much like the REmake, with a few added things such as dropping items and the teamwork. It's also the prequel, so how could you pass up buying it? :D

Spitfire
07-18-2005, 12:59 PM
Oh awesome, I have to go to Gamestop sometime this week and go nuts o_O Thanks for the advice. Dropping items should make the gameplay alot better. I often find myself running back to save rooms to unload my stuff so I can pick up a puzzle item...

ThirdMarioBro
07-18-2005, 09:53 PM
Goddammit. Gamestop has Zelda dated for November 14th, during the time of the year when I'm not home. If it were just two days or so later. TWO DAYS. Goddamn family reunion going to make me miss the launch excitement. It's not like I'm going to see Gamecube's fly off the shelf ever again after this. *sigh*


Woah, wait. It's Gamestop. *holds breath* They're usually wrong about these things. Hopefully Nintendo will say something different, or are waiting until the 360 gets dated to match their launch. Comm'on November 23rd...

07-18-2005, 09:57 PM
Dude, Gamestop is ALWAYS wrong. I don't think you have anything to worry about. Not until Nintendo says otherwise.

ThirdMarioBro
07-18-2005, 11:51 PM
Yeah, they were wrong about DS, wrong on PSP, wrong on Xbox, wrong on most of the major games for each.

*note to self*

Never listen to Gamestop report again, ever.

Spitfire
07-19-2005, 12:01 AM
Yeah, they were wrong about DS, wrong on PSP, wrong on Xbox, wrong on most of the major games for each.

*note to self*

Never listen to Gamestop report again, ever.
And don't go there they try to rip you off. God I felt like he was selling me a freaking car

07-19-2005, 12:31 AM
I'd say that, too, but...EBgames and Gamestop will be merging under the name "Gamestop," so in other words, Gamestop is buying EBgames. So unless you go to some backwoods store or something, you'll find yourself in a Gamestop. :ohwell:

And I'm so tired, but I saw Ju-Rei today, and now I can't get to sleep. :cry:

Spitfire
07-19-2005, 12:43 AM
I'd say that, too, but...EBgames and Gamestop will be merging under the name "Gamestop," so in other words, Gamestop is buying EBgames. So unless you go to some backwoods store or something, you'll find yourself in a Gamestop. :ohwell:
Online or Best Buy for me ^_^ Actually Best Buy sucks for games...wow I'm going to miss EB games >< First Funco-land and now this. Bastards!

ThirdMarioBro
07-19-2005, 12:46 AM
Yeah, that movie would keep you up at night.


Well, in that case, who's ready for....

SUPER HAPPY FUN REVOLUTION RUMOR TIME!!!!!

Yes folks, it's that time again when people bend over backwards to reach the deepest crevaces of their asses to dig out the most whack job off the wall rumors they can find because we all know how much Nintendo loves to fu*k with gamer's minds in the last months before the system's true unveiling.

In today's chapter, we go to Titus Miles's page on 1-Up.com to see what is basically a compliation of every Revolution rumor to exist. The fact is, I think there really is some truth mixed in the with bullsh*t, but the game is figuring out just what is real. I will say nothing as I do not wish to look stupid when we finally find out, but it is one very interesting read. Enjoy.

http://www.1up.com/do/my1Up?publicUserId=5549067

I think the wait is slowly coming to an end. Com'on Spaceworld.

Spitfire
07-19-2005, 01:09 AM
Remake Classic or Current games through the Easy Development tool, adding and making your own characters or art styles as you see fit, or even in a sense,make your own game

That's the most BS thing I have ever read

07-19-2005, 01:14 AM
Just finished reading it ALL (still scared as hell to go to my room to sleep) and normally I'd be like, "oh, I'd wait and see blah blah blah I'm stupid," but this time it has me excited. Even if none of that is true, maybe it will be someday, and I'd like that very much. I'd take that visor to town and be all like, "LOOK AT ME, I'M SAMUS!"

Spitfire
07-19-2005, 01:23 AM
Wait is Ju-Rei the Japanese version of the The Grudge? And does it suck? Because I hated The Grudge <_<

ThirdMarioBro
07-19-2005, 01:31 AM
Wait is Ju-Rei the Japanese version of the The Grudge?

Don't ask man...don't ask. :lol:

Let Ai tell you. He's obviously seen it more recently.

That info gets me excited because I know the wait is going to be over by the end of Summer and it has be pumped. I'm ready for Nintendo to wow me like they always do. I want something new like the DS that makes me go "WTF" but in a good way. Something you don't understand until you play it. That's what I want. A new experience. I don't know what we're going to get, or if it's on that page, but whatever it is, it will be new, amazing, and cool.

I just want to know what the damn thing is :lol:

*edit*

You know, I never thought about a trackball. That alone would be goddamn revolutionary. Full mouse control at the tip of your thumb. That would be DAMN amazing.

*edit again*

Because I just can't keep my mouth shut. :D Take a look at the pics on this page. Either someone leaked, or someone has waaaay too much time on their hands.

http://forums.advancedmn.com/showthread.php?t=10657&page=2&pp=15

Post #19 with the Retro Studios logo on them. What in the hell? To say my curiosity was just peaked would be an understatement.

07-19-2005, 05:10 AM
Wait is Ju-Rei the Japanese version of the The Grudge? And does it suck? Because I hated The Grudge <_<

Ju-On was the original movie that The Grudge was based on. Ju-Rei was the sequel. It was basically an hour of people getting "taken away" by the dark figure. It wasn't even so much that the movie itself was scary, but the way some of these people died was so messed up. I also HATE dark figures. It scares the hell out of me...so yeah, that's why I fell asleep down here with the lights on. :ohwell:

Spitfire
07-19-2005, 12:13 PM
Ju-On was the original movie that The Grudge was based on. Ju-Rei was the sequel. It was basically an hour of people getting "taken away" by the dark figure. It wasn't even so much that the movie itself was scary, but the way some of these people died was so messed up. I also HATE dark figures. It scares the hell out of me...so yeah, that's why I fell asleep down here with the lights on. :ohwell:
Oh okay, The Grudge was blah! But from what I saw when I typed "Ju-Rei" into Google it actually did look creepy O_O I don't blame ya. I never get scared from movies but this one time I saw a horror movie. I have no idea what the name was but it was about these ghosts and they were clowns. And they clowns were killing people and dragging them away. God I hate Clowns >< I couldn't sleep to well that night. And when I was in 5th grade I saw IT and I went to bed with the lights on for a week. I got kinda lucky when it comes to horror movies cause when I was like 1 or 2 my Dad used to just turn the TV on and I'd watch what ever. And alota the times it was a movie channel showing like Chucky and Jason movies. And my Dad would just tell me "It's just a movie, dolls don't come to life and kill people" And stuff like that and I was never scared during movies. Except the ones about the damn clowns ><

07-19-2005, 12:22 PM
I've never been scared by an American horror film. It's these whacked up Japanese horror films that scare the hell out of me. They sure know how to build suspense and pull something so nuts that I can't sleep the same night. Hell, even Ringu was scary as hell for me, but The Ring wasn't at all.

Spitfire
07-19-2005, 12:26 PM
I think it's because Amercians end up over doing it. Like Freddy Vs Jason. It just got lame. It wasn't scary and it had horrible dialog. It was nudity and violence for 90 minutes. It looked like a made for TV movie. Amercians just like explosions and mind numbing dialog. Why think when you watch a movie? God Forbid....28 Days Later didn't scare me but that was a good horror film ^_^ I never saw Ringu but I did see the The Ring and it was pretty stupid <_<

ThirdMarioBro
07-19-2005, 12:53 PM
Fear is about suspense. It's about getting in your mind and chatching you off guard. Digging through your conconises to find the one thing that terifiys you, then exploiting it.

Fear isn't about naked asses and special effects like many directors believe. If something looks CGI, it's fake. It won't scare you.

Spitfire
07-19-2005, 07:07 PM
Yeah my friend and me were messing around earlier with my Digital Camera and my Nintendo stuff and we made this haha

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4388/sonyhater9rk.jpg

But who is that Power Glove wearing, Lightgun toteing masked Sony Hater?

Yeah it's me haha no surprise there

ThirdMarioBro
07-19-2005, 08:30 PM
The poor wittle PS2 is gonna get radiated by the light gun.

*a moment of silence for the damned*

1..2..3

Okay, that's enough :lol:

07-19-2005, 08:37 PM
It's alright. No one will miss it, anyway.

Spitfire
07-19-2005, 11:52 PM
Haha my friend Pictochated "SONY IS TEH SUCKS" to me but you can only see the message where I wrote "DIE!" all crappy haha man I wanna do more of those. We had this idea to get my two Guncons and his two Lightguns and record us having some gun fight. Then going into a movie editor and adding crappy lasers and lame Matrix effects. Haha THE BATTLE OF THE LIGHTGUNS!

ThirdMarioBro
07-19-2005, 11:55 PM
You could rig it up where the neighbor's bog or something laughs at the stupidity of the whole thing (with the Duck Hunt laughing sound effect) then blast the sucker with the Zapper for a good laugh :lol:

Spitfire
07-20-2005, 12:15 AM
Haha omg we have to try and do this now O_O Lmao I'll post the video when he finish.
My friend is gona wear his Nintedo Rehab shirt and I'll wear my DMC shirt :lol: This should be intresting

ThirdMarioBro
07-20-2005, 01:04 AM
http://www.emagin.com/3dvisor/html/product.htm

Hmmmmm......here's that technology many Rev rumors point to lately. Looks interesting. Damn interesting.

Spitfire
07-20-2005, 01:12 AM
Is that a Predator? Wtf o_O I love Nintendo but I don't want to play games with a visor over my god damn head. I hate first person games

ThirdMarioBro
07-20-2005, 02:34 AM
Don't worry. I'm just pointing out stupid rumors. They know if they did something like that, it would freak out people and make the media scream "OMFG IZ TEH VErTuAL BOY 2 !1!1!!!!!1111"

They're not going to do that.

Mecha Cow
07-20-2005, 03:40 AM
That picture Spitfire posted got me thinking...It would be really cool if there'd be a webcam-esque kind of accessory for the DS...Kinda like the GB Camera that you'd plug into the GBA slot and you'd have something similar to a webcam function for Pictochat.

Yeah, I'm just brainstorming.

Btw, Spit, you need a superhero name...

ThirdMarioBro
07-20-2005, 12:27 PM
Well, from what I read, Revolution will have a camera attachment to allow for video chat or something. I'd hope DS would too though.

*edit*

On a side note, I'm really happy with my PSP. Ridge Racer was worth it alone. But, just a warning. Do NOT buy Screen Protectors from Pelican. They leave this horrible rainbow glare on the screen and it's just not worth it. Use Intec's/Mad Katz or just take care of it yourself. The beautiful screen in the best part and those rainbow particles on that Pelican protector is just crap. Now oddly, their DS screen protectors they made are just fine. I think it has something to do with the thinkness.

Just a thought.

Demented Utrom
07-20-2005, 03:03 PM
Well, from what I read, Revolution will have a camera attachment to allow for video chat or something. I'd hope DS would too though.

*edit*

On a side note, I'm really happy with my PSP. Ridge Racer was worth it alone. But, just a warning. Do NOT buy Screen Protectors from Pelican. They leave this horrible rainbow glare on the screen and it's just not worth it. Use Intec's/Mad Katz or just take care of it yourself. The beautiful screen in the best part and those rainbow particles on that Pelican protector is just crap. Now oddly, their DS screen protectors they made are just fine. I think it has something to do with the thinkness.

Just a thought.

To the PSP, I have to get one for one game.Smackdown Vs. Raw 2006.
For unlockables, on the PS 2 verison.
Well. I didn't know it could connect to the PS 2.
Does, the AC cable work.
More games, for me then.
Gamecube
Zelda Twilight Princess.
Mega Man X Collection.
Well, I might wait till goes down in price.

ThirdMarioBro
07-21-2005, 11:20 AM
God, I can not STAND ign's forums. There are so many crybabies, screaming trolls, flame baiters, ect. Maybe I've just gotten soft, but that place is hell.

Sorry, needed to rant.:embarass:

Mecha Cow
07-21-2005, 11:32 AM
Then I'll take this opportunity to rant as well.

Nintendo needs to unveil the damn Revolution already. Seriously.

Consumers and developers are losing interest fast; every day they keep the 'revolution' a secret is yet another shot in the foot for Nintendo. Who is going to steal their ideas?! Sony? Microsoft? Both the XBox 360 and the PS3 are as good as finalised; they'd have to be insane to risk a major lawsuit by stealing any ideas at this point. And you know they're going to get stolen eventually anyway, if they're really as revolutionary as Nintendo claims.

So come on guys, stop fooling around, hold another Space World, hype it up, and spill the beans.

...Really needed to get that off my chest.

ThirdMarioBro
07-21-2005, 11:49 AM
Yeah, you're right. This has gotten fu*king stupid at this point. I have this deep dark feeling they're going to sit on their ass until Zelda comes out then release the info. By then no one will really give a sh*t. Hell, I may not give a sh*t after that long.

They can still turn it around and start the hype bandwagon, but seriously. They're Nintendo. They're going to gard their secret til a couple months before PS3 launch time like some old lady guarding their family cookie recipe. It's just plain ignorant at that point.

Another Gamecube my ass. This is looking to be another N64. Maybe worse. No games announced whatsoever othr than Nintendo's own, and we don't even have names for those. I really think they're going to wait until Zelda for the info, and I seriously won't give a damn by then because I'll be so pissed from the wait.

There's a difference between fun suspense, and outright absuing your fanbase by tourting them. There are people out there who remain faithful through think and thin, and to make them wiggle like this when all the info for the other consoles and their games is already out...it's just wrong. It pisses me off, and it needs to stop. Give us the goddamn info Nintendo. We're sick to death of your silly little mind games. We just want to know so we can stop having our minds tourture us.

Sorry, needed to get that out too.

07-21-2005, 01:07 PM
I'm a patient guy, but there's only so much I can take. I've waited patiently this long, but I can probably only care about the system until about when Zelda releases. After that, I most like won't even bother with what "surprises" they'll have for me. I really wish they didn't do this, because it does get irritating, especially to the people who follow Nintendo so faithfully.

ThirdMarioBro
07-21-2005, 01:50 PM
Majesco Could Face Class Action July 21, 2005

by: Matt Saunderson

A sudden $32,000,000+ drop in earnings expectations has led to a proposal for a class action lawsuit.

Last week Majesco Games adjusted its annual earnings outlook to reflect that it expects to see a loss of $16 to $19 million. While a loss is never good news for a company, it is even worse when previous earnings expectations were at a gain of $16 to $18 million.

As a result of the sudden change in earnings expectations, the law firm Chitwood Harley Harnes LLP has proposed a class action lawsuit against Majesco, former Majesco Chief Executive Officer Carl Yankowski, and Majesco's former Chief Financial Officer , Jan E. Chasen. The lawsuit alleges that Majesco issued "materially false and misleading statements" that inflated the market price of its securities and assets. In addition, the company's former CEO and CFO, "touted the diversification of Majesco's product line and stated that the company's revenue and income would significantly increase in fiscal year 2005."

Majesco has declined to comment on the pending legal action. We’ll keep you updated.
source: IGN

Dammit. I like Majesco. Don't want to see them go the way of Acclaim. They published Nanostray, which for the record is a DAMN awesome shooter. I love it, but nobody else was going to publish it in the US. *sigh*

07-21-2005, 07:11 PM
Did they make anything else? I don't think I've heard of them.

malignant
07-21-2005, 08:23 PM
Nintendo probably just doesnt want to kill off any hype on Zelda. Because face it..its going to be the one and only game that can finally bring some revenue in for the gamecube. Which i bet they've totally lost loads of money on...

Plus i'm sure they also want to make sure the revolution is perfect as it can be before revealing it. They really cant afford another gamecube, or a N64. This Generation of consoles makes them or breaks them. I couldnt imagine Nintendo just being a handheld company....that would so suck..;o\

Anyways...I don't mind waiting. And im sure Nintendo doesnt either. They need to do things right...not rush things like fan boys want them too. It will probably be the last console to come out anyways....so who cares if we have to wait a little longer.

Mecha Cow
07-21-2005, 08:45 PM
I'm pretty sure the GameCube is actually still making a profit, but don't quote me on that.

But the thing is, the Revolution should already BE 'perfect'. If it's not, I'd like to know what the hell Nintendo has been doing for the past few years. You're right, another N64 would suck, but that's where they're heading, fast. Because what do we have to go by right now? A download service. That's real f*cking nice, Nintendo, but it's not exactly a 'revolution', and nobody cares.

I'm tired of waiting. I'm tired of defending Nintendo, because at the moment, they're making complete asses of themselves. Show me a Revolution and I'll be happy, show me nothing and I stop caring.

Sorry for another rant; I've been up all night (Almost 6AM...) and I'm still bitter about Nintendo selling out on Zelda (Whether you like the change or not, at least open your eyes and admit that Twilight Princess might as well have been called Ocarina of Time II).

07-21-2005, 08:48 PM
I think everyone is entitled to a rant at this point. Nintendo needs to cut this crap out and show us something. I'm getting tired of waiting. If I don't hear about anything after Zelda releases, I don't think I'll care about it anymore.

ThirdMarioBro
07-21-2005, 09:00 PM
Well, you see, it dosen't have to be perfect. The PS3 was just an empty case with a boomerang attached while they showed render videos. People screamed for joy. The 360 was two G4 Macs running games at not much better than Xbox quality visuals (30%) capacity. People lept for joy. If Nintendo had done the same, they would have been damned to hell. It's because they held to some almighty standard the other two aren't. They're a game company, nothing more. They should recieve the same treatment as Microsoft or Sony. If they did, I guarntee you things would be different. But it's mainly Nintendo's fault for not just telling them to shut up and show us something.

And yeah, the fact that they don't want to kill any Zelda hype is exactly why we probobly won't see anything from Revolution until December at which time I say "F*ck it". It's understandable that they don't want to kill hype, but the game has now had a year and 2 1/2 months worth of hype. It's been on the cover of 17 magazzines more than once. That;s more than MGS 1, and 2 put together. It's not like people aren't going to buy Zelda because a new console comes out a YEAR later. Nintendo's just pulling the "I'll never tell" stunt again, thinking people will be on the edge of their seat waiting for them to allow the next generation to start, when in fact, they're marching out to preorder their 360's as I speak. It's suiscide. They undoubtly have something, and knowing their talent, for them to call it a Revolution, I believe it will do something absoultely fu*king amazing. But to sit on it this long is just killing the hype. You've got to give people a reason to wait for Revolution (not everyone can afford more than one console). While Nintendo is sitting on it's elitest ass til November, people are handing Gamestop $300 for their 360's. Stupid Nintendo and their arrogance strikes again. Frankly, after Zelda comes out, they're in trouble if that goddamn thing hasn't been revealed. Far more trouble than N64 could have ever hoped to have been.

And for the record, Nintendo has actually never lost a dime on the Gamecube. From the begenning, they're the only console maker in history who makes sure that their console is developed so that they can sell it for less than it costs to manufacture it. They're fine. Don't worry about that. It took PS2 two years to get to that point. Xbox? Well, that's why the 360 is coming out so fast. Xbox never has gotten to that point. They want to kill the thing and do it right so they can make it a profitable venture knowing what they know now.

Anyway, where was I? Oh yeah....Get the fi*k off your ass Nintendo. I'm sick of waiting. We're all sick of waiting. It's not like I'm going to stop buying your games or something like some imbisicilic little IGN fanboy. You should know your fans better than that, and you should treat them better than that. I mean, we've been to the gates of hell with them and back (last year of N64). We deserve out reward. It dosen't even have to be playable. Just a damn render demonstration would shut us all up on the spot.

malignant
07-21-2005, 09:08 PM
Lets not forget how rushed the DS was.....and how crappy a game line up we have right now. Not to mention some other stuff they could of added to it...

Again, i don't mind waiting.

ThirdMarioBro
07-21-2005, 09:11 PM
Yeah, the launch line up was crap, but we're waaaaaay past that now. Plenty of good games on the market now.

But my point is, I don't mind waiting fo the system. That's only natural. I just want to know what I'm waiting for. That's all. PS3 will take just as long to come out and we already know what games it will have alongside it. We just want to see it and know what it does. Not have it this Christmas. That would be dumb. I just want the damn suspense to end. The cards are already down, and Nintendo's just sticking their cards under their ass and waiting for no reason.

I don't want the system to come out before it's ready by any means. I just want them to rig up some Spaceworld video, hype the hell out of it and show us what it does so we can all relax. Sony sure as hell did. There's nothing wrong with it either. Just show us. It's not like we want to play it tomarrow or somthing.

malignant
07-21-2005, 09:14 PM
We still have another year and a half to wait probably before it launches anyways...

I'd hate to say it, but alot of you might just be waiting till next years E3... :P

Which sucks, i know.

ThirdMarioBro
07-21-2005, 09:15 PM
That's the scariest thing, because simply put, I wouldn't put it past them. Not in a second.

If they did that to their fanbase.....Fu*k them. We defend them, we stand up for them at our own expense, and we always take pride in the fact that eventually, something will come of it.

But they do that, and seriously, they can kiss my ass.

Oh, and btw, Ai's right. I'm buying all three consoles now. I don't want to miss anything this time on any platform.

07-21-2005, 09:31 PM
Hell yeah, bitch. You just never know when something good might come out on PS3. Sony has been known to have the beast RPG's, and I just can't pass up a good RPG. Ever.

ThirdMarioBro
07-21-2005, 09:44 PM
SEGA Talks Nintendo July 21, 2005

by: Larry McCormick

In a recent interview, the head honcho of Sega of America talks about support for Nintendo's current and upcoming consoles.

In an interview with Nintendo Power magazine, Sega of America's top dog, Simon Jeffrey, commented on Nintendo's audience and where Sega sees itself fitting in. Jeffrey commented that Nintendo's audience is very much like Sega's old audience partly because the two companies have similar philosophies in bringing entertaining products to the market that don't try to be controversial. Jeffrey specifically mentioned Sonic as a family oriented property that fits well with Nintendo's audience.

When pressed, Jeffrey also noted that Sega is looking into Revolution development at the moment and looking into whether or not it is viable to bring some of their older titles to Nintendo's shiny new system. Jefrrey also noted that essentially, no outside companies no more about the Revolution than we (meaning the population in general) do... which is not much.

Jeffrey offered conflicting opinions on the supposed uniqueness of Revolution. His views echo those of the industry at large right now. He believes that if Nintendo's Revolution is really cheaper and easier to develop games for, it may attract much more third party support than the GameCube did.

On the opposite side of that coin, he also believes that if the console and its features are too unique, it may scare third parties away and be a burden to their multi-platform plans.

Nintendo still isn't talking about the Revolution in any meaningful way. Hopefully the big N won't make the public wait too much longer before they truly unveil what is going to make the Revolution so special.

source: GameCube Europe

________________________________
I agree that Nintendo and Sega share an audience. They come from the same past, as do we.

The fact that the development community community knows nothing about Revolution basically confirms everything we said above. So much for SOnic Adventure 3 on Revolution. Glad I'm multiplatform now. *sigh*

Even if they want to develop or it, it's not like they're going to have time to do anything meaningful if they have to wait til next year too. So much for all that "Developers eyes lit up when we showed them Revolution's controller" BS. Lying jerks.

malignant
07-21-2005, 09:50 PM
Sega and Nintendo. My two favorites. And that sucks.... I hate seeing Sonic whore on other systems. It just feels dirty and wrong...aha

As for what i'll be owning. A Rev and an Xbox360. **** Sony. Sony would have to have a game of the century to even get me thinking about renting their system...;o)

ThirdMarioBro
07-21-2005, 10:02 PM
Oh, I pretty much feel the same about Sony themselves. They couldn't produce a good game (or hardware) if it bit them in the ass. But that dosen't mean the quality third party companies should suffer.

Sonic on Nintendo just feels right. In the old days, Mario and Sonic may have been on opposite sides of the battlefield, but it was a war of quality. Both sides won in my opinion.

Like Sonic Rush on DS coming alongside the New Super Mario Bros. Two excellent games that restore their respective franchises to their former glory at the same time, on the same system. It's an amazing feeling.

Mario/Sonic forever.

*edit*

And believe me, Sonic Rush is a true Sonic game. We're talking fu*king Genesis quality here :D :D :D

07-21-2005, 10:04 PM
Sonic does feel kind of right on a Nintendo console. But I feel like if Sega made another console, Mario just wouldn't feel right on it.

ThirdMarioBro
07-21-2005, 10:07 PM
Yeah, you're right. It would be wierd. I wonder why? Guess it's just a style thing. Sega's games & consoles have that California beach style to them (don't know how else to discribe it).

07-21-2005, 10:18 PM
No, that's just Sonic Adventure. :lol:

ThirdMarioBro
07-22-2005, 01:41 AM
I keep reading that when DS online launches this Christmas there will be a way to save a "buddy list" of sorts of people to play against. When that does, do you guys want me to make a collective list of everyone's DS usernames and seriel numbers at the front of this thread, or do you want me to start a new topic to do the same thing?

Jed
07-22-2005, 07:25 AM
I think a new topic would be best, just to keep it seperate from the Nintendo Discussion. Maybe the topic could be locked and stickied too, so that there's no needless posting, and users could PM you to be included on the list?

07-22-2005, 10:25 PM
I think a new thread would be best. We can put the Xbox Live tags on there, as well. Eventually, there'll probably be more names that we can add when the new generation consoles release.

Spitfire
07-23-2005, 12:44 AM
I just beat Resident Evil Zero. MAN That game is AWESOME! That is by far my favorite RE game. It's either my favorite so far or tied closely with Nemesis. Such a great concept. I wish they would use it again. I havn't beaten 2 in so long I have forgotten it but so far it's shaping up to just be hard. It's hard to see items because their no shiney, no quick turn, and i have ot use the D-pad and an old PS1 controller because a PS2 one won't work ><
I havn't staryed CVX yet either but so far Zero and Nemesis are my favorites. Yes RE 4 is fun blah blah but I've beaten it 1 million times....I need something NEW

07-23-2005, 12:46 AM
Don't expect much from Code Veronica X. There's varying opinions, but I thought the game was junk. :( It just feels too different. The knife is way too powerful in that game, though. You could probably get through half of that game with just the knife.

Spitfire
07-23-2005, 12:49 AM
Don't expect much from Code Veronica X. There's varying opinions, but I thought the game was junk. :( It just feels too different. The knife is way too powerful in that game, though. You could probably get through half of that game with just the knife.
I played up until you meet Steve and it seems like RE 4 witht he old style of gameplay. IE lots of ammo and you can only die if mess around to much or really suck

ThirdMarioBro
07-23-2005, 01:39 PM
Well, the man of the hour steps into the boxing ring known as EGM, and quite frankly, I think he can calm all of our fears. Transcript for Miyamoto interview from latest Electronic Gaming monthly:
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EGM: Speaking of the virutal console, might older offline multiplayer games, like Mario Party, be altered so you could play them online with the Revolution?

SM: We know that we will offer the past games for sure. But we are discussing the possibility of having older games like Mario party playerable online. So if our discussion goes well, and if the technical aspects of Revolution also go well, that's possible.

EGM: You've said the Revolution controller will be unique- do you worry about it alienating developers? Say Splinter Cell comes out for all the next-gen systems; might the Revolution controller be so different that it'd be tough to map the controls onto?

SM: Well, of course, the idea is that the Revolution will sell and sell and sell so it becomes the standard in the industry. [Smiles] However, at least for the launch period...we designed the controller so it can play any of the different conventional styles. After all, we are talking abou it playing games from our past machines vie the virtual console]. So don't worry.

EGM: Why make the DVD player optional with Revolution? And how will it work--is it an attachment or a remote or what?

SM: The majority of households already own a DVD player or two. We don't want them to spend extra money just to have a console which happens to have DVD capability. And the DVD player isn't going to be an attachment; its going to go inside the machine so you won't even be able to tell the difference.
EGM: You've promised Wi-Fi for the Revolution but will it also have a standard Ethernet port?

SM: No, it doesn't have an Ethernet port. However, through the USB port, its possible to have Ethernet with an adapter. Considering where the machine will be placaed in the household, we think it would be difficult for people to route the typical Ethernet line to it. Also, We're considering connecting the DS with the Revolution via Wi-Fi.

EGM: Some people are saying Nintendo has given up trying to lead technologically and is focused on innovation.

SM: I don't think the Revolution's graphics will be inferior in any fashion to Xbox 360 or PS3. Even if you look at Zelda on GameCube--I don't think that looks inferior to what the competition is touting as "next generation" visuals. But we think there are more important things for now than making the system work with a high-definition television. The majority of people won't be playing our system with an HDTV, though with the Revolution, 480p resolution will be standard. We are not making light of graphics and technology--we are trying to make the best-balanced machine that will appeal to the most people.


EGM: Moving on to other games--we know Smash Bros. is coming to the Revolution, but what about DS?

SM: We're thinking about it.

EGM: What about Luigi's Mansion? Is that series over, or will we ever see another?

SM: The director often says, "Make another one! Make another one!" and I want to use Luigi again.

EGM: Any chance we'll see another Pikmin?

SM: Nothings set in stone yet, but the interface we're creating for the Revolution is well suited for Pikmin--I think it would be a good match. Not much I can say other than that.

EGM: Will we ever see anything more of Stage Debut a technology demo that allowed players to map their face on in-game characters?

SM: Yeah, I want to do something with it.

________________

Soooo, let's recap. They're not making light of visuals, they're trying to achieve balance, Possibility of playing classic titles online, external ethernet adapter, the controller won't be some whack ass nerve sensors or something (WHEW), Luigi will be getting more respect (already beginning - look at the box for the New Super Mario Bros), the DVD add-on won't make that sexy machine look odd (and let's face it, it is the best looking of the three) and thank god, standard 480p on Revolution games will be mandatory meaning digital picture, but a smooth 60 FPS on all games.

Okay, I'm completely happy now. Miyamoto once again calms my fears about Revolution. *returns to patiently waiting status*

07-23-2005, 01:51 PM
Well, that's a relief. I'm glad I learned more about Revolution today. 60fps games are a must for me. When I started getting serious about video editing and watching high-quality videos, anything less than 30fps killed me. Then when I played MGS3, I knew right away it played at 30fps instead of 60fps. Anyway, this is good information. I'd like to play another Luigi's Mansion. That game was really fun.

ThirdMarioBro
07-23-2005, 02:05 PM
Yeah, framerate is far more important than resolution. Choppy framerates give me a headache. *evil stare at N64* But I am glad that it'll support 480p. It's not that big of a difference really, but it'll give me a digital out port which means no image blurring on my monitor, and 480p won't hurt the performance in any way. Gamecube could swing that easily without a problem whatsoever.

So, I'm happy now. We know Rev will be a normal console by "normal" standards, and that Smash Bros won't be responding by some nural brain interface (that dosen't mean Pikmin won't though :lol: )

Mecha Cow
07-23-2005, 02:11 PM
This stuff is great to hear, but I was never too worried about the machine itself anyway.

However, I still think they're shooting themselves in the foot by not showing anything concrete while the competition is hyping their machines like crazy; 'Cos let's face it, they really are being stupid about it.

Meh, I don't really care much anymore. There will always be people taking cheap shots at Nintendo, that's just the way it is. Even if the Revolution really is the greatest thing since sliced bread, there will still be a lot of people refusing to let themselves like it and saying it sucks. But whatever, I'll get a Revolution, I'll get the games, and that's all I care about. I just hope they'll be able to win back the support of most developers.

Anyway, I'm really excited about the possibility of older games being online-enabled, like I was hoping they would be. I'm all for more Luigi games as well. Paper Luigi anyone?

Also, the line about the Revolution being supposed to become the industry standard is really interesting...

Spitfire
07-23-2005, 03:55 PM
Wow I can't wait ^_^ I'll have my Revolution and my PS3*Shut up Devil May Cry 4 AND Resident Evil 5*cries** Sounds like a great system, though I'm in no hurry to buy a new system.

ThirdMarioBro
07-25-2005, 05:56 PM
http://www.spikedhumor.com/Article.aspx?id=238

Okay, folks this is probobly the greatest fu*king speed run I've eever seen. It's for Super Mario 64. He exploited glitches in the game's physics and clipping issues. He triggered doors with the rabbit and several things. I saw several human mistakes in there as well. He may not have gone though the entire game, but by triggering bugs, he pulled it off. I guarntee this one is legit. He even used the pause screen to save time getting around the castle.

There's one thing at the end with the Endless stairway where he abuses the game's graphic engine brutally to screw the game. It's all possible. Watch the way the game scrolls. It really happened. He did NOT fu*k with the code. He just abused Nintendo's mistakes. It's real, and it's unbelieveable.

07-25-2005, 06:03 PM
That's the 16 star speed run, right? Yeah, I've seen that. It was on the Internet Speed Runs site a while back. It should still be there, actually. It really is quite amazing. The endless stairway glitch I had to rewind and watch again, because I didn't believe it.

ThirdMarioBro
07-25-2005, 08:37 PM
Yeah, now I see why you watch Speed Runs. That sh*t is un fu*king believeable. What's the URL of the website the others are at?

07-25-2005, 08:42 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/tmntrule/wangedpost.jpg

Peanut
07-25-2005, 08:49 PM
http://www.archive.org/details/speed_runs

There it is! I win again!

07-25-2005, 09:27 PM
Oh, you're an asshole and I hate everything you represent. :cry:

ThirdMarioBro
07-25-2005, 11:07 PM
:lol: BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :lol: :lol:

You two... :lol:

ThirdMarioBro
07-27-2005, 06:16 PM
Feel The Magic Sequel? June 28, 2005

by: Chris Playo

UPDATE: Will there will be a sequel to the DS launch hit Feel The Magic?

Director of Sega's DS launch title,Feel The Magic, Takumi Yoshinaga, revealed yesterday that he is indeed working on a new project. While it has yet to be confirmed to be a direct sequel to the game, Yoshinaga declared that his next project will expand upon the world view of his previous DS title. What that means is still largely unkown as Yoshinaga was unwilling to reveal more about his new project. However, it is known that the goal of the next game for Yoshinaga is to "make people happy when they play it" and will leave a mark on the player.

Stay tuned to DS Advanced for continued coverage of this developing story.

Update 7/27/05

Various internet messageboards and weblogs have reported that the sequel to Sega's 2004 DS title, Feel The Magic will be known as Akachan wa doko kara kuru no?. The title translates into english as "Where do babies come from?".

As of today, Sega's website was updated with a new subdomain for this developing title. The page does not include any content, but it does indeed confirm that the title is in development.

Not much is known about the project, however it is expected that the title takes on the same direction as its predecessor. Be sure to stay tuned to DS Advanced for continued coverage of this developing story.

source: gba.n64Europe


Main point of focus.

The title translates into english as "Where do babies come from?".

Sold. :lol:

07-27-2005, 07:25 PM
Dude, it does translate as that! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dude, I gotta get this. That name is ridiculous.

ThirdMarioBro
07-27-2005, 08:53 PM
And considering how fu*ked up the first one was. Heh heh

wheeeeeeeeeee! Sega Cheeze!

ThirdMarioBro
07-28-2005, 04:17 AM
Apprently Nintendo sees fit that it is time to release some good stuff for the 20th anniversary of Super Mario Bros.

Super Mario Anniversary!
Nintendo prepares new titles for 20th anniversary of Super Mario Brothers.
by Anoop Gantayat
July 27, 2005 - Nintendo Japan sent out an update today to Club Nintendo members revealing its plans for the 20th anniversary of Super Mario Brothers. That's right, IGN's top game in its previous top 100 games of all time feature saw release for the Japanese Famicom on September 13, 2005, and to celebrate the occasion, Nintendo will be releasing some hot new products around that time.


First up comes the release of three exciting Game Boy Advance titles. September 13 will see the release of Mario Tennis Advance, a portable version of Mario Tennis developed by Camelot that's said to feature heavy RPG elements. Nintendo will also release Doctor Mario & Puzzle de Pon for the Game Boy Advance, a game combining the classic puzzler Doctor Mario with the classic puzzler Puzzle de Pon, all at a budget price of 2000 yen.
The third title is a re-release, but one that we're sure Nintendo's been getting lots of e-mails about. The first Famicom Mini (NES Classics) game is the hardest entry in the series of 30 titles to find these days, despite also being the best selling of the lot. Good news for those who missed out -- Nintendo will be re-releasing the game on September 13th in celebration of Mario's big anniversary. Nintendo hasn't revealed if the game will keep its original packaging.

In addition to these three titles, IGN has heard a few less official reports of even bigger plans from the big N on September 13th. Apparently, although not officially confirmed yet, Nintendo plans on releasing the Japanese version of its miniature Game Boy Advance, the Game Boy Advance Micro, on that day. We've also heard some buzz that the new DS Super Mario Brothers title, which is being developed in part by staff members that worked on the classic 2D Super Mario games, is nearing completion and could be released shortly following the anniversary.

Even without these last two, September 13th should be a special day thanks to the three titles Nintendo confirmed today. The US anniversary of Super Mario Bros. is in October of this year, so let's hope Nintendo of America has similar plans for us.


Sooooo, Panel de Pon & Dr. Mario for GBA huh? Import time. There should also be some cool GB Micro Mario Faceplates that will unsoubtly be Japan exclusive, so I'll have to ebay those.

Sounds like September is shaping up to be quite nice :D

Spitfire
07-28-2005, 04:28 AM
I want the new Mario DS game it looks fun o_O DS needs to hurry up and come out with Castlevania and Viewtiful I need more DS games...I hope they put out a new Mario game too....we only got what? Sunshine this gen

Mecha Cow
07-28-2005, 05:33 AM
The title translates into english as "Where do babies come from?".
What. The. F*ck.

ThirdMarioBro
07-28-2005, 02:22 PM
I hope they put out a new Mario game too....we only got what? Sunshine this gen

Don't hope for what you're not going to get. Mario 128 is Rev only.

New Super Mario Bros is DS. I'm happy with that.

Barkworm
07-28-2005, 11:33 PM
It's sad that the Cube is pretty much dead by now, as far as blockbuster titles are concerned. Of course I'm hyped beyond words about Zelda but it's the last big GC title we're going to get.

ThirdMarioBro
07-29-2005, 02:40 AM
Yes, but all things must eventually end at some point. Cube had a good life span and gave me lots of unforgetable experiences.

The Stryker
07-30-2005, 09:49 PM
Should we Sing "Tell Me a Lie" when the GC finally is laid down to rest?

Raphael29
07-31-2005, 11:18 PM
It's sad that the Cube is pretty much dead by now, as far as blockbuster titles are concerned. Of course I'm hyped beyond words about Zelda but it's the last big GC title we're going to get.

Me too I own all the rest (except WW) and I'm looking forward to finally getting the zelda game that's been talked about for 5 years now, I'll be one of the first in line and this is one of the few game purchases that I definitely won't mind paying full price for.

http://www.spikedhumor.com/Article.aspx?id=238

Okay, folks this is probobly the greatest fu*king speed run I've eever seen. It's for Super Mario 64.

Ugg, Mario 64, I can't stand that game even to this day, too much exploring not enough action, bosses were painstakingly easy, and no classic powers, the hats just didn't do anything for me, man so many bad memories with that game, definitely the worst mario game ever in my opinion.

DS needs to hurry up and come out with Castlevania

Oh God, I can't wait on that game either! Aria of sorrow was so awesome, I can't wait for the sequel!

I hope they put out a new Mario game too....we only got what? Sunshine this gen

I know it's a shame, I don't know what nintendo's deal was, Sunshine was Okay but nowhere near as good as the classics, the new one on the DS looks awesome though, I'm looking forward to that.

Peanut
08-01-2005, 09:29 AM
Ugg, Mario 64, I can't stand that game even to this day, too much exploring not enough action, bosses were painstakingly easy, and no classic powers, the hats just didn't do anything for me, man so many bad memories with that game, definitely the worst mario game ever in my opinion.


....No....No....

The Stryker
08-01-2005, 09:30 AM
Oh boy...Run Raphael29 Run while you still can!!! I smell sales numbers being searched up!

08-01-2005, 09:53 AM
Whoa there. Mario 64 bad? You just forfeited any credibility about video games you had. Sorry.

Barkworm
08-01-2005, 09:54 AM
While we're at it: I'm going to sell my copy of Mario 64 DS. I never played through the N64 version but I always loved it when I played it. The DS version on the other hand... Let's say I just never had that "WHOA" feeling when I played it. Something didn't feel right about it.

Raphael29
08-01-2005, 10:53 AM
Whoa there. Mario 64 bad? You just forfeited any credibility about video games you had. Sorry.

How? All I did was state my opinion. The classics are just way better than that game that's all there is too it. I expected a game that was gonna rival mario 3 what I got was an exploring game that took way to long to get anything done the action was almost nonexistent, instead of the classic powers all they gave us were those hats which I didn't care for, and King Koopa was a breeze.

The Stryker
08-01-2005, 10:55 AM
Oh god....i can't wait till TMB gets here.

For the record i didn't think Mario 64 was all that hot. it was average to me.

Peanut
08-01-2005, 12:39 PM
How? All I did was state my opinion. The classics are just way better than that game that's all there is too it. I expected a game that was gonna rival mario 3 what I got was an exploring game that took way to long to get anything done the action was almost nonexistent, instead of the classic powers all they gave us were those hats which I didn't care for, and King Koopa was a breeze.

Way too long to get anything done? What in the hell is that even supposed to mean? You didn't like the hats, well that's really a 'tough sh*t' kind of situation. As for King Koopa being a breeze...well...can you name one game where he was even a LITTLE challenging? I didn't think so.

The Stryker
08-01-2005, 03:07 PM
Dude its a Damn Opinion.

Peanut
08-01-2005, 09:09 PM
Dude its a Damn Opinion.

Dude, don't you have another thread to spam, or another un-funny joke to tell?

malignant
08-01-2005, 09:15 PM
Dude its a Damn Opinion.

A very very very bad opinion.

You should have known better. Pssh.

The Stryker
08-01-2005, 09:27 PM
Dude, don't you have another thread to spam, or another un-funny joke to tell?

i could care less about what you have to say. you need to learn to respect f*cking opinions.

Peanut
08-01-2005, 09:33 PM
i could care less about what you have to say. you need to learn to respect f*cking opinions.

No, I don't. In case you haven't noticed, I really don't give a flying f*ck about anyone's opinion. We've been through this kind of stuff on the forum before. You don't need to tell me how to act.

08-01-2005, 09:33 PM
I think there's a difference between an opinion and just plain stupid. When 9/10 people you talk to think something is good, maybe you should question your own taste in whatever that something is.

Raphael29
08-01-2005, 11:00 PM
I think there's a difference between an opinion and just plain stupid. When 9/10 people you talk to think something is good, maybe you should question your own taste in whatever that something is.

No I shouldn't I don't like that game and I'm never going to but that doesn't make me stupid,or mean that my taste is bad it's just different from some peoples, the game does nothing for me it never will, The classics are just a million times better, if some people get pulled into a game because of the snazzy graphics and that's enough to keep them entertained then that's great it isn't for me I expect a game especially a mario game to be challenging and addictive as well as being fun to play, that game isn't, it's a great big bore fest for me, and always will be, wow I got another star, only 119 more to go (borrrring).

A very very very bad opinion.

You should have known better. Pssh.

I'm just being honest and no my opinion is not bad, there is no such thing and opinion is just that an opinion.

Way too long to get anything done? What in the hell is that even supposed to mean? You didn't like the hats, well that's really a 'tough sh*t' kind of situation. As for King Koopa being a breeze...well...can you name one game where he was even a LITTLE challenging? I didn't think so.

It means that it takes forever to get enough stars to do anything, he was hard in all of the other Mario games, in 3 you had to make him knock the floor out from under him or I normally just kill him with fireballs, in 1 he's hard because you have to dodge all those hammers he throws at you, in world, he's hard because you have to throw his own weapons back at him, etc. He was just way too easy in that game, took all of 5 minutes to kill him. And dude learn to respect others opinions I may not agree with you but that doesn't mean I'm a fu*king idiot.

08-01-2005, 11:03 PM
That's all good and fine, but you need to stop double posting. I'm serious. This is your last verbal warning.

Barkworm
08-02-2005, 12:01 AM
Holy crap, I think everyone needs to cool down. We're just talking about a damn videogame here (oh my god, I really said that :cry: ).

Spitfire
08-02-2005, 12:10 AM
Holy crap, I think everyone needs to cool down. We're just talking about a damn videogame here (oh my god, I really said that :cry: ).
It's okay Backworm your just compassionate like me. Something burns inside me when I read this. It's a sadness...or my acid reflex ><

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3728/mario3big3fq.jpg
Either way it's making Mario sad :cry:

...that's bad Photoshop, I have shamed myself *runs off crying*

ThirdMarioBro
08-02-2005, 02:02 AM
Well, I'm just going to say this.

Super Mario 64 is a clasic Mario game. Everything on the damn N64 was classic. There wasn't much of it, but what was there was golden. Mario 64 is better than 70% of the games on the market today, just like the original Super Mario Bros is better than all that licensed sholveware sh*t on GBA. It's just that good.

Sunshine, it's good, but far from being classic. I don't even take the game seriously. It wa a training project, not a Miyamoto Mario game. The new SMB is a Miyamoto Mario game. mario 64 was and is a Miyamoto Mario game. And Mario games always had exploration in them. Just the fact that it was 3D means that there is another dimention of exploration to the game which inheritantly takes more time obviously.

Really, some people don't like the 3D iterations of classic franchises. Some haven't since the begenning and never will, but the majority of fans love the thing to death (myself included) and take offense when it's slammed. It's just how we are. If that's your opinion, then fine, but don't wrong us for being so passionate about it, and we won't wrong you for not liking it.

Mecha Cow
08-02-2005, 08:12 AM
The classics are just a million times better, if some people get pulled into a game because of the snazzy graphics
Me too I own all the rest (except WW) and I'm looking forward to finally getting the zelda game that's been talked about for 5 years now, I'll be one of the first in line and this is one of the few game purchases that I definitely won't mind paying full price for.
I'm sure the fact that you passed on The Wind Waker and can't wait for "the Zelda game that's been talked about for five years (Despite only being unveiled a year ago)" has nothing to with graphics.

Peanut
08-02-2005, 09:30 AM
I'm sure the fact that you passed on The Wind Waker and can't wait for "the Zelda game that's been talked about for five years (Despite only being unveiled a year ago)" has nothing to with graphics.

OUCH! *high five's Mecha*

Deathknight
08-02-2005, 09:48 AM
Yeah, people who critize games because of graphics should be smacked upside the head repeatidly.

Storm Wolf
08-02-2005, 10:13 AM
It's just how we are. If that's your opinion, then fine, but don't wrong us for being so passionate about it, and we won't wrong you for not liking it.

Ok...I know I don't post much in this section....but I do read the threads.

Maybe I've been reading things wrong....

I have a simple question.

Where in Raphael29's post did he wrong you for being passionate about the game?

It seems to me like he was just defending his opinion ((Correct me If I'm wrong, but I was always told that an opinion is neither right or wrong))

I don't want to make waves...I'm just a bit confused on this. :| I thought he was simply saying that he liked the classics because they are just that...classic. He stated the reasons ((his opinion)) that Mario 64 didn't appeal to him as much as all the other Mario games he's had the pleasure of playing...I didn't think he was really bashing it.

I know I'm not as passionate as some of you, but I really don't see the sense in condeming him for his opinion on a game.

Raphael29
08-02-2005, 11:08 AM
I'm sure the fact that you passed on The Wind Waker and can't wait for "the Zelda game that's been talked about for five years (Despite only being unveiled a year ago)" has nothing to with graphics.

Okay you got me there, but the reason I didn't like WW wasn't because of the graphics, it was because I thought the story was boring, if the new zelda sucks I'd take it back in a heart beat, regardless of it's graphics.
and yes it that game has been talked about for 5 years if you take into account the original E3 footage from 5 years ago with Link and Ganon fighting with realistic graphics before the WW came out.

Really, some people don't like the 3D iterations of classic franchises. Some haven't since the begenning and never will, but the majority of fans love the thing to death (myself included) and take offense when it's slammed. It's just how we are. If that's your opinion, then fine, but don't wrong us for being so passionate about it, and we won't wrong you for not liking it.

That's not the case at all, it's not that's it's in 3d that's the problem, it's just a bore to play, hey I love Ocarina of Time and Majoras Mask and those are 3d games, and I thought Mario Sunshine was pretty good. I didn't mean to wrong anyone, you guys have your opinions and I respect them, regardless of the fact that mine's different. I was just pointing out that I shouldn't be bashed to death for having a different opinion than the majority of the people here. Thats all I meant if some people took offense I apologize.

Yeah, people who critize games because of graphics should be smacked upside the head repeatidly.

Agreed, that's why I can't understand why everyone loves Mario 64, the only thing that it had going for it to me was the graphics.

Mecha Cow
08-02-2005, 11:24 AM
and yes it that game has been talked about for 5 years if you take into account the original E3 footage from 5 years ago with Link and Ganon fighting with realistic graphics before the WW came out.
You mean the Tech Demo that was never an actual game and has nothing to do with the upcoming Twilight Princess?

Barkworm
08-02-2005, 11:28 AM
The hell? He even apologized, drop it, for god's sake!

Mecha Cow
08-02-2005, 12:08 PM
Drop what? I'm asking him a question. This doesn't even have anything to do with what he apologized for.

But fair enough, I don't want to start any fights.

08-02-2005, 12:11 PM
I think he was talking to Raphael29.

Barkworm
08-02-2005, 01:32 PM
Drop what? I'm asking him a question. This doesn't even have anything to do with what he apologized for.
Sure, but the way you "asked" was just asking for more fighting. It would be really nice if this whole topic could be dropped. The sad thing is that Raphael29 wasn't even being rude so I have no idea why everyone else has to be (I'm sorry if it seems like I'm singling you out Mecha, that wasn't my intention).

Mecha Cow
08-02-2005, 01:37 PM
I will admit that there was more than a hint of cynism in my post, but it was not my intention to be rude or to pick on the guy.

As I said, I don't intend to start any fights, so consider it dropped as far as I'm concerned.

ThirdMarioBro
08-02-2005, 10:20 PM
Hey dudes, I'm going to be out the rest of the week because a friend's up to stay for the week. We're arranging Sonic music on a piano :D

I'll be around some, but not as much as usual til Sunday.

XERO
08-02-2005, 10:31 PM
I hope you make mp3s of them, TMB. Take care. :)

08-02-2005, 10:44 PM
Guess this is a good time to say I won't be on starting Thursday and I won't be back until next Thursday. I'm also having friends over, but they're from around the US. One is flying in, and two are driving. They're my CS team, and we're going to have a LAN party for a week. It should be a blast.

ThirdMarioBro
08-03-2005, 03:08 AM
New RE4 Info

August 01, 2005

by: Phillip Levin

An interview with the game's director reveals new details.

The September issue of Famitsu Xbox has a four-page story on the recently revealed Resident Evil 5. In it, the game’s director, Jun Takeuchi, talks about Capcom’s upcoming horror action game.

According to the interview, Resident Evil 5 will employ a number of advanced graphical technologies, such as a full-blown facial expressions system. The development team can choose between many different muscle values, allowing them to build many different looking facial expressions.

On top of that, the game features more polygons than any other Resident Evil game to date. One popular screenshot that is floating around is of the main character, holding his gun towards the camera. In this shot alone, more polygons make up the mix of his face, hand and gun than in any other screenshot like it.

When asked about whether Resident Evil 5 would run on a middleware engine, such as the Unreal Engine, Takeuchi said they have yet to decide, but did say that while a lot of Japanese developers opt to create their own engines, it is both a lot more affordable and a lot quicker to utilize an already designed one instead. He said his team and him are considering the option.

While the latest in the series looks absolutely stunning, it doesn’t stop there. According to Takeuchi, he wants the game to run at a solid 60 frames-per-second. He says it will feature a lot of action, and anything lower is not acceptable.

Outside of graphics, the interview features some small tidbits on the gameplay side of things. Seemingly, elements, such as hot and cold, will play a large roll in the title. The visual engine has actually been designed with these themes in mind and will be able to accurately display them realistically.

Finally, Resident Evil 5 features very similar gameplay to Resident Evil 4, which re-invented the series this year with its new over-the-shoulder, action-packed gameplay style. Takeuchi did say that while it will be similar to Resident Evil 4, it won’t be identical, so there will be many surprises in the ways of gameplay design.

Capcom is considering showing its Resident Evil 5 trailer, which it showed at both the PlayStation Meeting and Xbox Summit, at the upcoming Tokyo Game Show, held in September.

Resident Evil 5 is currently announced only for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 and will release sometime during the next-generation of consoles.

source: IGN Xbox 360

Meh, such boring info. Facial expressions? Already have those, and DAMN good ones too. More polygons? Whoop de doo. Knew we were getting that. Better than 4? Doubt that. New over the shoulder gun engine? WTF is that, never heard of that before....oh wait, RE4!!!. So far this sounds none too impressive.

*sigh* I'll hold final judgement for when they unveil the story, but thus far...meh.

08-03-2005, 12:31 PM
I think they're going for the same deal with RE4. If the game sold so well, why change it? I'm not too worried about the story, but it's the overall gameplay that I'm worried about. I'm afraid they'll put in some stupid aspect of the game that just doesn't make it Resident Evil, or maybe something that's so much of a burden on you, the game isn't even fun anymore. We'll have to wait and see, as usual. I have high hopes, but of course that can change.

ThirdMarioBro
08-05-2005, 03:15 AM
http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=5495

First Metroid Prime 3 Details August 03, 2005

by: Phillip Levin

First details on the Revolution-bound finale to the Prime series.

Nintendo fans have been waiting for concrete details on Metroid Prime 3, which was first announced and shown in a very short trailer form in May at the annual Electronic Entertainment Expo this year, for a while. But their wait is finally over – sort of.

Official Nintendo Metroid site, Luminoth Temple, has published an interview with the game’s creator. In it, some small details on Prime 3 have emerged.

The interview confirms that Metroid Prime 3 is the third in the Prime trilogy. With the third game in the trilogy, Retro Studios wants to bring closure to the storyline. As before, elements like Phazon, a dangerous compound first introduced to the franchise in the original Metroid Prime, will play an important role in the Revolution-bound Metroid game. Likewise, the creatures the entire series is based on, Metroids, will also play an essential role in the new game.

Metroid Prime 3 will be played from the first-person perspective, just as its predecessors were. However, while the perspective the adventure is experienced from won't any different, the visuals will be. Retro has re-created its own graphics engine for trilogy’s finale.

According to Retro, Prime 3 will take advantage of the Revolution’s unannounced features, creating many new gameplay experiences.

Musically speaking, Metroid’s famed music creator, Kenji Yamamoto, is back for another adventure and will be handling the game’s soundtrack. He’s already responsible for the award-winning tracks in the first two games.

Metroid Prime 3 is scheduled to release on Nintendo’s next-generation console, Revolution, sometime in 2006. We’ll have much more on the title as it happens.

source: Luminoth Temple

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KENJI YAMAMOTO!!!!!!! YEEEEES!!!!

I sooooo missed him in MP2 (which he did not do th emusic in btw). Nice to finally have some concrete info (even if it is only a little bit). Better than nothing.

Spitfire
08-05-2005, 03:29 AM
Re 5 is going to suck. Their just gona re-hash everything the guy who quit did because they suck and can't make their own game...

Mikey the Party Turtle
08-05-2005, 05:21 AM
Re 5 is going to suck. Their just gona re-hash everything the guy who quit did because they suck and can't make their own game...

You mean Mikami? And don't judge too quickly that it'll suck. RE2 is basically RE1 when it comes to gameplay yet it was better. (The same can be applied to Megaman 1 and 2.) Give it some time.

And can anyone explain how going online with the DS will work? Is there a fee, what?

Barkworm
08-05-2005, 06:00 AM
Nope, there is no fee. All you're going to need is a wireless router and off you go.

Mikey the Party Turtle
08-05-2005, 08:44 AM
Spectacular. :D

ThirdMarioBro
08-06-2005, 01:50 AM
Namco will have a title for the online network as well. Remember the Soul Calibur I port floating around awhile back?

*crosses fingers* :D :D

Turtledude2k3
08-07-2005, 01:30 AM
Metroid prime 1 + 2 were both good games but the 2nd one wasnt' as popular s the first one..

On the other hand, Nintendo will be releasing a wired addon for the ds if you don't have a wireless router.

ThirdMarioBro
08-10-2005, 10:56 PM
GOOD NEWS!

Though not officially "announced" yet, Nintendo is supposedly developing a USB connector for the DS that will allow people with no wireless connection (and no means to get one) to use their existing cable or DSL to hook to th network.

Meaning, Peanut, you no longer have an excuse. Get your ass to Gamestop and preorder animal Crossing now. I've got to come redecorate all your walls. :evilgrin: :D :D

ThirdMarioBro
08-14-2005, 02:06 AM
How would you like to watch the OFFICIAL Playstation Magazine Piss on the PSP and pimp the DS? Read this.

http://1up.com/do/feature?cId=3142637&did=1

Behold the power of Software.

zkarlette
08-15-2005, 11:33 AM
Well sony does have a nack of advertising for the oposition like when theymade a whole King of queens Ep(which is owned by sony pictures) and they were advertising the Ipod instead of the sony player :roll:

Spitfire
08-15-2005, 01:16 PM
Oh I want that USB cable! That's great news ^_^

Oh and does anyone have Jump Superstars? I kinda want to get it because I read some reviews and it says it's like Smash Brothers. My friend said he read Smash Brothers is comming to DS is that true? If it is I won't bother buying Jump Superstars. I want someone else to import it with me so I can play it with them. Though I hear it has 150 characters to unlock so the single player will keep me busy for a looong time.

ThirdMarioBro
08-15-2005, 01:19 PM
It IS smash bros. It's the same engine, and the same developers. I'll be importing that mug.

Spitfire
08-15-2005, 01:47 PM
Oh okay then, maybe I will get it. 50 bucks isn't THAT bad.

Barkworm
08-16-2005, 02:18 AM
I just read that "Twilight Princess" has been pushed back to 2006. Apparently Aonuma isn't happy with the game's quality at this point. :( The source is a very reliable German website.

ThirdMarioBro
08-16-2005, 02:57 AM
What in the god damn everloving mother fu*k?

barkworm, post the source. Please. I gotta back check this with my sources.

I swear to god, they do this and I'll get out a sawed off shotgun and storm the goddamn building. This is it. So help me if this is true...











*EDIT*


Parental Advisory (Rated R) - If you don't like swearing, then don't read this post. I've fu*king had it this time.



Don't Bother Barkworm. Hell's breaking loose in the morning. I can smell it, and I'm bringing it to breakfast. I checked it on NOA's Press Site, NCL, the German mag, asked the guys at IGN for a confermation, and looked everywhere else. They did it. Those goddamn mother fu*king imbsilic fools did it. That's it. I officially declare Gamecube dead. No one is going to buy this fu*ker with it releasing around the time of PS3. And now we'll probobly have to wait until Q1 2007 for Revolution. Those goddamn fools went and did it.

That's it, Nintendo fu*ked up one too many times. The only reason the DS got and kept it's head start was the Christmas launch. Without that....heh. Now with Zelda getting fu*ked, well, they blew it. Zelda was their trump card, their ace in the hole, they're...everything. They just as well cancel it and move it to Rev. No one will buy it if they don't. Thos Mother fu*king FOOLS. I quit. No more defending Nintendo. They earned whatever the hell they get for this.

They just handed Microsoft Christmas on a silver platter, and they just handed Zelda to Sony for breakfast in the PS3 hype. Fu*k them, their management, and imbisilic decisions. Zelda was the lead in for a restart of Nintendo, but it looks like another gen of dumbassity with Zelda getting a RE4 style launch when everyone's already spent their $$$ on their 360's (myself included it seems). They'll release this in late winter/early spring then give us our Revolution onfo at the next E3.

Well, who gives a fu*k. I said if they pulled this sh*t, I'd give up hope, but I didn't think they were stupid enough to do it. F*** Nintendo and their decisions. They finally crossed the line.


For the record, I played it. There's nothing wrong with the damn thing. NOTHING. It was fine, and no one would have cared if a pixel was out of place with the hype. The hype is now gone. EGM, Gamepro, and everyone else are gonna eat them for breakfast, and really I don't give a fu*k. They've earned whatever they get this time. And it'll probobly be the last time. No one is going to trust Nintendo again after this, and no one is going to believe in a so called Revolution when they can't even get the Holiday title that people have been looking twords for 2 years can't make it out for Christmas. They fu*king blew it. I've blown it. I have to stop typing. I'm probobly mispelling half of this sh*t anyway. **** them.

*takes soapbox and throws it out the window*

Last rant I'm ever doing. What the hell's the point anymore.

Spitfire
08-16-2005, 03:09 AM
Aw don't give up hope in Nintendo. A company can always pull off a surprise. You never know what they have going for them! They could have a game they have been keeping under tight wrap until Christmas. And I'm sure even if we have to wait for the Revolution it will be worth it. Nintendo is a company after all their not going to do something totally stupid that will make them lose big bucks without a reason. I'm sure they have a backup and if not then oh well. I don't feel like video games this Christmas anyways.

ThirdMarioBro
08-16-2005, 03:17 AM
I don't mean to sound harsh Spitfire, and please don't take it as such. I'm just so damn mad right now.

But there is no way in hell Nintendo has a secret game in development. If they did, I'd know. Even if they did, it couldn't touch the hype Zelda had. They're going to bank on that Game Boy Micro as their holiday ticket and cling to the pipe dream that it will kill Xbox360. They're fools, and I absoultely refuse to trust them ever again. Not after this. They made a fool of every fan who ever defended them these past two years. Zelda was the one thing people couldn't justfy shooting down. We defended them and they fu*k us right up the ass.

I quit. This is the ultimate betrayl imo. No more defending a company that seems hellbent on it's own distruction no matter how hard fans try to save them and preserve the momories. Hell, now it's supposed to be launching sometime past the end of the fiscle year. That means Late April. BEFORE FU*KING E3!!!! No one wil give a sh*t. No one will have money, and if they did, they'll be saving it for their PS3's due to the pre-E3 hype. Hell, I may not even have the $$ for it. I'll be saving all my cash for the trip to LA for you know what. This is goddamn rediculious.


Right now I just want to crawl up in a corner an slit my wrists. :cry: :x




btw, thanks for posting it Barkworm. I'd rather have heard it from you than to wake up and have IGN shove it at me. :cry:

Spitfire
08-16-2005, 03:29 AM
I don't mean to sound harsh Spitfire, and please don't take it as such. I'm just so damn mad right now.

But there is no way in hell Nintendo has a secret game in development. If they did, I'd know. Even if they did, it couldn't touch the hype Zelda had. They're going to bank on that Game Boy Micro as their holiday ticket and cling to the pipe dream that it will kill Xbox360. They're fools, and I absoultely refuse to trust them ever again. Not after this. They made a fool of every fan who ever defended them these past two years. Zelda was the one thing people couldn't justfy shooting down. We defended them and they fu*k us right up the ass.

I quit. This is the ultimate betrayl imo. No more defending a company that seems hellbent on it's own distruction no matter how hard fans try to save them and preserve the momories.

Right now I just want to crawl up in a corner an slit my wrists. :cry: :x

Aw don't turn emo! I can see where your coming from...and I can see why it bothers you. But I try to look at the bright side of things. I blame the owner of the company. He obviously has his head up his ass since he lets his company get screwed over time and time again. I have a feeling that time is over. And if not now then sometime soon. Someone will boot his ass out of office and take over. Now that's my wishful thinking. The Gamecube may be dead but the DS still has alot of awesome titles coming out! Castlevania, Viewtiful Joe!, Under The Knife, Lost In Blue, Animal Crossing!

They can still sweep up in the handheld department which by the looks of things is doing better then consoles as it is! Don't lose all hope in them. They may not win the console war but they still own the handheld division and I'm proud and happy to own my DS and Gamecube. I barely have any GC games *I have 13* and I have twice that for my PS2 and I hardly even touch my PS2. My GC feels more at home. It will always be there.

And there's no reason to defend it. Defending it gets you no where special at all. Does it matter if other people think Nintendo is stupid? Does it effect us Nintendo fans? We all know by now casual gamers are so one track minded their opinions can never be altered as it is. They all have the mentality of a 12 year old or are indeed 12 years old. Nintendo was always a safe company. PS2 can have all those GTA games. I'll take Mario over it any day. And why? Because Mario is fun. Violence doesn't make things more fun. That's the problem with casual gamers. If it isn't violent it isn't fun. So when people try to defend Nintendo they can't. Because casual gamers don't see the violence on GC. Therefore they think it's stupid and for kids. I don't think alota kids could beat the games for GC that are rated E. And I doubt those casual gamers could either.

So don't lose all hope! Just game and be happy. You have all the systems as it is enjoy them no matter what comes out if you want it you can have it ^_^

ThirdMarioBro
08-16-2005, 03:33 AM
Don't blame Iwata...well, not completely. He allowed this, but it was Aonouma's Idea (Zelda's director). Miyamoto was probobly in on it too. I know they're perfectionists, but when you ruin the last great hope for a restart before a new generation launches by making the biggest mistake ever...well.

This is worse than Virtual Boy. At least people knew it was a bad idea from the start. Zelda had not a thing against it. Hell, some people (myself included) thought Microsoft was worried about the game screwing their launch. Zelda is the oone thing nobody fu*ks with. Not even Mario can come close to that kind of power.

Well, not anymore. They screwed Zelda. I can't sleep. I'm going to go and play Meteos or something....no, I'm so mad I might damage the touch screen. I'll go play Streets of Rage or something. Something where I can beat the sh*t out of thugs and stripers or something. I gotta vent.

Sorry you guys had to hear all of that. I've just never been so mad in my life.

Spitfire
08-16-2005, 03:42 AM
To me it's worth the wait. I would rather have a perfect game then one that isn't what the creator wanted. I don't care about what others think when it comes to gameing. So people think Nintendo is weak. Let them miss out on all the great games it has to offer. I pity them and their one tracked minds. And I'm sorry you have to wait for your game but we all have to wait sometimes. I had to wait 3 and a half years for a proper sequel to my much loved Devil May Cry series. And I wouldn't have waited a day less. Waiting longer made me want it more and by the time I played it I was blown away. Time can be a good thing sometimes. Don't give up hope until the battle is over. I bet more DS's will sell this Christmas then anything.

ThirdMarioBro
08-16-2005, 03:47 AM
Well, I pity myself, because if no one buys this game because of PS3 hype, then it could be the last true Zelda I get, and that hurts us all. If this game, of all games, looses all is hype to this mistake, and likely will, nothing else Nintendo has can make up for it. Zelda is their big gun. I'll play it (likely Summer after I get home from E3and have the time :cry: ...Jesus), and whats left of the fanbase will, but nobody else will. This game could have expanded the fanbase, but now it will only cater to what's left of it. Mario 128 won't save them. Nobody even thinks that exists any more. But Zelda could have.

They poured water into their biggest cannon's gunpowder supply.

Either way, I;ll play it, and it will probobly be my favorite game of all time, but now there are going to be far fewer people out there who get to enjoy it like that, and that just makes me miserable. Just another delayed Nintendo game.

Spitfire
08-16-2005, 03:53 AM
Every series needs to meet it's end. And I think it's still to early for Zelda. Remember the PS3 is going to be expensive. As opposed to the Gamecube which will cost even less by the time PS3 is launched. The makers of DMC have all been fired or re-assigned so I'm sure my beloved DMC series will die when 4 comes out...and I have a feeling my 2nd passion in video games will as well as RE 5 won't have it's creator working on it...gameing is harsh but look at the bright side. Zelda had alot of wonderful games. And the series had a really long run. It's rare a series stays intresting that long. And Nintendo always pulls it off! We will see a Zelda on Revolution you can count on that. I doubt Nintendo will let a classic like that die just because of some poor sales.

ThirdMarioBro
08-16-2005, 03:59 AM
I gotta go to bed. Can't even think stright.

Zelda won't die. That's overreacting. But it sure as hell won't hold the weight it once did in the public's eye when it get's creamed by a Final Fantasy VII remake on PS3.

I gota go to bed. Nautious and woosey. See you tomarrow when I've cooled down and sorry again for loosing it over this mess. There's just so much I can take before I snap, and Nintendo found it. :(

Spitfire
08-16-2005, 04:03 AM
I gotta go to bed. Can't even think stright.

Zelda won't die. That's overreacting. But it sure as hell won't hold the weight it once did in the public's eye when it get's creamed by a Final Fantasy VII remake on PS3.

I gota go to bed. Nautious and woosey. See you tomarrow when I've cooled down. :(
A FF 7 remake would cream anything. There are so many FF 7 fanboys and girls out there tha probly make up half the gaming population. That's a gaint no one can tackle. I don't know how Nintendo could go against that but a Resident Evil 2 remake would hold it's own pretty well. REmake did so well I don't see why remaking RE 2 would be a problem. But that will never happen -_- Don't worry is all I'm saying. FF 7 will have a nice run on PS3 I'm sure but trust me it will get hammered. They won't change enough and people will feel their playing the same game the did back in the 90's with a graphics update and new dialog*if we're lucky*.

I'm sure once you sleep on it everything will be okay ^_^

Barkworm
08-16-2005, 04:58 AM
btw, thanks for posting it Barkworm. I'd rather have heard it from you than to wake up and have IGN shove it at me. :cry: No problemo! :lol:
You know, I thought about this and to be perfectly honest, I don't really care. The GameCube is dead anyway (there's no denying it) and I don't think even with Zelda the sales would have gone through the roof at X-Mas. Anyone who owns a GameCube now will buy the game anyway. I'm actually happy with this decision in a weird way. Just think about it, if Aonuma says the game needs improvement, then he'll have a good reason for it. He was really unhappy with the Triforce search at the end of WW but he didn't have the time to get it right. Now he just wants everything to be perfect, even though no one will buy a GC anymore next year. I say, f*ck the GC sales, the poor thing couldn't compete with XBox and PS2 anyway. Just give me the best game you can do.
I have spoken. ;)

Mecha Cow
08-16-2005, 06:20 AM
Let them f*cking delay 'Zelda' all they want...They killed it, I don't care anymore. I had some hope left for the game, but after seeing the new screenshots, I seriously don't give a sh*t anymore. I don't know what the f*ck this is supposed to be, but it's not Zelda. The soul is gone.

'But Mecha, it's just a game!' Yeah, it is now. It's nothing more than a generic, boring game now.

Congratulations, Nintendo. Who cares about screwing over your loyal fans when you can gain twice as many casual ones, right?

Now let's all wait until Mario becomes 'cool'. F*ck you, Nintendo. F*ck you.

Barkworm
08-16-2005, 06:29 AM
I was just about to post how great these new screenshots look. :lol:
Seriously, this game certainly doesn't look as artsy as WW did but "no soul"? Gimme a break!

Mecha Cow
08-16-2005, 06:43 AM
Look at the first town screenshot. Now, I want you to open it in any graphics editor and cut out the part with Link. Now, show it to any random Zelda fan who hasn't seen the screenshot before, and ask them to guess which game it is from.

I guarantee that they will not know the answer.

And that is my entire point. It looks boring, generic, and shallow. There is no magic, there is no life, no soul. And those things, my friend, are exactly what make Zelda great.

If it doesn't bother you than I am very happy for you, but it does bother me, a lot. Please respect my opinion on this.

And I wish I could say they'd at least look good by techical standards...But they really don't (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/MechaCow/Ugly.png).

Barkworm
08-16-2005, 06:57 AM
Dude, calm down. I'm famous for respecting opinions! ;)
And I do see your point somehow, I also think that the screen with Wolfie Link in the snow looks pretty sh*tty. It's just that for me most of those screens still look great, even though I can clearly see how they try to appeal to the Western market (Aonuma even admitted that that's what they're trying to do). Let's just wait and see how it turns out, we haven't even played it yet! I for one can't imagine that I won't enjoy this sucker.

08-16-2005, 07:24 AM
Sweet CHRIST, what did I miss while I was sleeping? Zelda got pushed back, TMB renounced his religion, and Mecha thinks the new Zelda sucks? Oh, that's epic.

I agree with Barkworm in them taking their good ol' time to get the game right. He's also right about Gamecube being dead for the most part. I look in Best Buy and the Gamecube section is the smallest part. With the game's release being so far away, and so close to Revolution's release (we hope), it's logical to think it won't sell that well, but I think that's not entirely correct. Revolution has backwards compatability, meaning the people who buy it will most likely buy the new Zelda along with it. They won't bother with Gamecube since it's dead, but Revolution is new hardware, and it's appealing. They can play the game that way.

It's true, Nintendo has really f*cked up here. Nintendo falling back on their GBA Micro for the holiday season was a really bad idea. I really don't think it'll sell all that well, and they don't have much else for the season. I don't know what they're thinking, but maybe there's some purpose in this.

Mecha Cow
08-16-2005, 07:39 AM
Dude, calm down. I'm famous for respecting opinions!
Sorry, I actually thought I was being calm.

And I'll buy the game either way, I already have it reserved anyway. I still expect at least the gameplay to be good. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised, but I'm not getting my hopes up any more.

malignant
08-16-2005, 08:21 AM
You Nintendo fan boys... :P

Seriously, we've waited this long who cares? It will be better for the revolution. I thought it was stupid to make a game this big for the gamecube this late in its life cycle anyways. I mean..seriously..how much later can you get?. It'd be a waste of game. Atleast let it have some purpose and if that means pushing the revolution, a Console thats way more important than some software sales for a system that died a long ago, then so be it.

and you guys forget how big Nintendo is in Japan. They havn't ****ed up anything. They didnt become as big as they are not knowing what they're doing. The United states and a few other countries will never be the end of Nintendo. People just wanna blow off steam, but they're all be there coming right back. When the game does release..watch it still break sales records.

Im still loyal to nintendo and always will be. A game got delayed, whoopi di ****ing do. It happens ALL the time now in this generation of games. Especially games as big as this one. Best get used to it...

Nintendo puts out quality. Theyre a different game company than Sony and Microsoft because of it. And they've been like this for like THE LAST 5 YEARS NOW ALMOST, so why the hell everyone still gets upset over something like this is beyond me. Learn to accept Nintendo for what they are now.. They're seriously not worried about hit after hit, they don't need to be. Thats sonys department, its what they live off of. And Sony bearly has any games that can compete with Nintendo in the quality area. So who cares..take your time Nintendo.

ThirdMarioBro
08-16-2005, 12:44 PM
Quality is wonderful, but you can't go on with some just that and hope to survive in the marketplace. You have to make money. This is offically their biggest mistake ever.

And please don't call me a fanboy. If I were a fanboy, I wouldn't be moving my Xbox 360 purchase up because there's now nothing on Gamecube to keep me entertained.

It'll get moved to Rev aat this point. There's just no point. I'm seeing people selling their Gamecubes all over the web, and there's a massive influx of them on ebay right now. They're so fu*ked now. You can't sell a game when th userbase has already sold their systems to upgrade for next gen. They blew it. Their biggest game shot to hell.

XERO
08-16-2005, 01:06 PM
This could be a blessing in disguise...

This could be the best move they've ever did...

ThirMarioBro could yell at me right about now... :lol:

Spitfire
08-16-2005, 01:08 PM
Well it's not like they can't just put it on the Revolution as a launch title or something...the disks are the same format. They pushed back Doom 3 for years and it was all hyped up and when I played it I thought it sucked. But fans still bought it and it probly made some new PC gamer fans as well. I'm sure Zelda can do the same thing.

The Stryker
08-16-2005, 01:14 PM
What if it sucks?!?!

Seriously my Girlfriend is gonna be pissed

XERO
08-16-2005, 01:14 PM
Impossible. ;)

ThirdMarioBro
08-16-2005, 01:15 PM
I'm a pessimist by nature, but Nintendo no longer carries the weight they once did. Even CNN is bashing them for this.

Also, they can kiss game of the year goodbye now. RE4 will win for this year, and something like Elder Scrolls: Oblivion will get next year. Nintendo blew it....again. I no longer believe in their intelligence.

Looks like its just me and Soul Calibur III this Christmas.

next thing for them to screw up in Revollution. Now there is no doubt in my mind that they will delay its unveiling until next E3. If Zelda is launching in April, there is no doubt they'll do it.

I'm so beyond giving a fu*k about either at this point. I want them both, but I know Nintendo's just bought their one way ticket to hell. Even EGM was defending them with Zelda, but now they stabbed the media again. There's no hope for themmaking any kind of major dent next gen now.

Spitfire
08-16-2005, 01:31 PM
Who cares if they make a dent. The Revolution will be a treat for Nintendo fans. It will not only enhance your normal gameplay but you DS gameplay as well. Could you ask for anything more? Wi-Fi internet? Now that's awesome. Downloading old games? Alot of great stuff about the Revolution! I want one badly too >< But if it comes out later then it will be the most advanced system and can run longer. Plus it gives people time to buy the other systems. I want a PS3 for a few games so I have time to save up and buy one and then buy a Revolution! So yeah...if the Revolution came out the same month as the PS3 it would get it's ass handed to itself. There's no way it can compete with Sony fanboys.

XERO
08-16-2005, 01:31 PM
Hey, whatever happen to playing games for fun? When did this become a electronic fashion show? One game doesn't have it's costume ready, and everyone goes nuts? RELAX. :P

You guys act like Zelda is the life of Nintendo, and it's not. WE ARE. The gamers. And not just Nintendo, but every videogame company. This happened before, and it will again, but it's up to us to keep it from dying. We keep complaining and yet we keep buying the games. They delayed it to make it better, not to decrease its quality. And who cares what CNN thinks? I maybe wrong, but isn't this the same network that criticized Grand Theft Auto? Zelda is no different.

All we can do is wait. Besides, there are plenty of other games to check out.

As long as it comes, I'm happy.

JUST DON'T CANCEL IT.

ThirdMarioBro
08-16-2005, 06:31 PM
"In effect, because of the backward compatibility built into Revolution, every GameCube game also will be a Revolution title," she said. "But we feel a commitment to the GameCube owners who've been patiently awaiting this new Zelda title, and don't want to force them to wait and buy a brand new system in order to play the game." -Perrin Kaplan

My ass. The lack of a release date gives me the feel that they're leaving open the option to can it and move it to Rev if they decide to. I don't like it.

Gamecube is dead.