The Nintendo Discussion Thread [Archive] - Page 8

Raphael29

08-17-2005, 01:00 AM

You Nintendo fan boys... :P

Seriously, we've waited this long who cares? It will be better for the revolution. I thought it was stupid to make a game this big for the gamecube this late in its life cycle anyways. I mean..seriously..how much later can you get?. It'd be a waste of game.

That doesn't matter, Mario 3 was released 1 year before the SNES hit store shelves in the US and it is one of the biggest selling games of all time.

Im still loyal to nintendo and always will be. A game got delayed, whoopi di ****ing do. It happens ALL the time now in this generation of games. Especially games as big as this one. Best get used to it...

Yeah but not normally for 5 years.

Nintendo puts out quality. Theyre a different game company than Sony and Microsoft because of it. And they've been like this for like THE LAST 5 YEARS NOW ALMOST, so why the hell everyone still gets upset over something like this is beyond me. Learn to accept Nintendo for what they are now.. They're seriously not worried about hit after hit

Yeah they do theyr'e a gaming company if there games don't sell they go under.

Thats sonys department, its what they live off of. And Sony bearly has any games that can compete with Nintendo in the quality area.

Lots of good games that are of just as good of quality as the GC, and Sony is the one who can take hit after hit because they don't specialize in gaming it's only one part of there huge corporation.

*EDIT*

That's it, Nintendo fu*ked up one too many times. The only reason the DS got and kept it's head start was the Christmas launch. Without that....heh. Now with Zelda getting fu*ked, well, they blew it. Zelda was their trump card, their ace in the hole, they're...everything. They just as well cancel it and move it to Rev. No one will buy it if they don't. Thos Mother fu*king FOOLS. I quit. No more defending Nintendo. They earned whatever the hell they get for this.

They just handed Microsoft Christmas on a silver platter, and they just handed Zelda to Sony for breakfast in the PS3 hype. Fu*k them, their management, and imbisilic decisions. Zelda was the lead in for a restart of Nintendo, but it looks like another gen of dumbassity with Zelda getting a RE4 style launch when everyone's already spent their $$$ on their 360's (myself included it seems). They'll release this in late winter/early spring then give us our Revolution onfo at the next E3.

Well, who gives a fu*k. I said if they pulled this sh*t, I'd give up hope, but I didn't think they were stupid enough to do it. F*** Nintendo and their decisions. They finally crossed the line.

I feel the same way, I've been waiting for this game ever since I saw the E3 footage from 2000, that decision royally pissed me off, and the only reason I'll be getting a revolution is for the old school games that will be available online, that's it, I've lost all faith in nintendo, it's sad because they used to be so great, I had such faith that zelda would save them, but I was wrong, the GC is dead and w/out zelda to keep people from getting a 360 this holiday season, and the PS3 coming out next year, Revolution won't sell, nintendo just dealt themselves a critical blow with that decision and it's gonna be sad to see the company who originally got me into gaming, die after all these years.

ThirdMarioBro

08-17-2005, 02:23 AM

They won't go under, and I'll still buy everything they put out. There's a difference between loosing faith in the management, and loosing faith in the developers.

Yeah, they fu*ked us. We'll still get Zelda, but it will take a while. Quite simply, I'm pissed, but to quit buying their games to punish them? All you're doing is punishing yourself. Nothing more. We're here for the love of the game. Without that, what the hell's the point?

Don't boycott. That's hurting yourself more than them. Just raise hell online and send them a ton of spam complaints. That's a good way to show them you're pissed. Dosen't do much (neither would boycotting), but it will annoy the fu*k out of their PR staff, so maybe net time they pull this sh*t with Mario 128 or whatever, the PR staff will jump their asses for me :D

Duke

08-17-2005, 11:36 AM

Wow! I can't believe nintendo has not learned anything over the last few generations. The N64 and now the Gamecube both died before their time. But I really can't say I'm surprised. I knew they'd screw it up and they have.

Mecha Cow

08-17-2005, 12:21 PM

I thought they had learned...But I guess I was wrong. I'm getting pretty tired of being Nintendo's fool to be honest.

At least a lot of good DS games are coming out soon.

ThirdMarioBro

08-17-2005, 12:49 PM

Now that's a statement I totally agree with.

I could b*tch and moan for another week, and we're all completely justified to do so. Nintendo did us wrong again. It's gotten really old and I'm tired of being kicked around. Perrin Kaplan says it will definately be released on Gamecube, but when the half year drought starts and everyone's sold their Gamecubes, NCL will reconsider. Then I'll declare a fu*king war on them. If they release it on Cube, I'll be happy, but I'm damn near certain that they'll just let April pass by, then come E3 (when it appears we'll have to wait for Rev info), they'll announce Zelda as a Rev launch title with some kind of new whack ass control scheme. Seeing as I'll be at E3, I'm going to start a fu*king stink in person if/when that happens.

They better release it.

ThirdMarioBro

08-18-2005, 01:25 AM

Yeah, here we go again.

Matt on IGN is saying he has a tip that the Revolution info wll come within a rather close time frame. He says it would come not long after the Leipzig Convention (German E3), and he's usually not wrong about these things. Leipzig started today and runs through the weekend.

I'm so in the mood to not give a fu*k right now, that I would almost dismiss it, but as usual, we will see. I've been hearing some things as well, so there's always a chance. You never know. Though I'm still sticking to my statement that they'll sit on their ass until E3. Really, its the only thing I know to say. Nintendo fu*ks up every day. Game Boy Micro at $100, Zelda delayed to failure, and Revo info pushed back to where people just don't give a damn to care.

I really hope Matt's right, but at this point, meh. I'm not getting excited until something concrete or at least something with a little more substance blows though my channels. Like I said, he's usually right about this sh*t, but really...its Nintendo. Nuff said.

Allthough, I do get a tip off about this stuff sometimes a day or two (or the night before) when this kind of stuff is going to go down, so if i hear anything, and I mean ANYTHING...I'll come hear screaming and warn everyone. But like I said, don't hold your breath. I'm sure as hell not at this point.

愛

08-18-2005, 01:39 AM

I'll be waiting for some good news, but I don't really care so much at this point. I can wait like everyone else, but I'd love to know what I'm really going to be saving my money for...

Barkworm

08-20-2005, 12:38 AM

I got thinking... Does no one think that Nintendo dropped the DS price in the US because it's not selling as well as they hoped? I know it's the hot sh*t in Japan and even Europe now but this year's sales in America haven't been all that impressive (according to NPD group it only sold a 112.000 units in June while the PSP and even the GBA did significantly better). I'm confident that the sales will go up though.

ThirdMarioBro

08-20-2005, 01:36 AM

Somehow I doubt that. I mean, yeah, its possible, but its also Summer, so I can't say for sure. American stores won't post their sales numbers because they're stupid, so I don't know. Time will tell, but even if you're right, it will change in Fall when the good stuff comes out.

Nobody buys video games in Summer anyway. I know sales would be higher if Nintendo had released MP: Hunters this Summer like they said they would. Perhaps the delay will get us online play. Who knows.

Mecha Cow

08-20-2005, 08:24 AM

They're most likely dropping the price because a lot of new games will be coming out soon. Nintendo does it all the time.

ThirdMarioBro

08-20-2005, 03:19 PM

Yeah, and it'll probobly stay at this price for a long time me thinks.

愛

08-21-2005, 12:31 PM

Okay, Tales of Symphonia problem. I go into the options menu and I try to scroll down, but it won't let me. I can scroll down until the page has to move to show the rest, but it won't let me scroll past that part. And another thing, when I try and scroll through the Techs, it won't let me do that, either. It'll go to the one I want, but then switch back to the one I was just on. Has anyone had this problem, or has even heard of it? I already took the game back and got it exchanged, and it does the same thing.

Nevermind, it fixed itself somehow... :o

ThirdMarioBro

08-21-2005, 02:57 PM

Sounds like a game bug me thinks.

GOOD REVOLUTION TEASE

http://nintendo-revolution.blogspot.com/2005/08/molyneux-never-underestimate-nintendo.html

Peter Molyneux made a little comment about the Revolution at the end of a book. This is Mr. "I live the Xbox", and he's praising Nintendo. This is following comments from Peter Jackson, EA, and Yuji Naka. Yeah, no real info here, but still good to know that people in such high places like it.

Oh, and it's been backchecked by our team. It's legit.

Mecha Cow

08-22-2005, 03:22 AM

Who is Yuji Naka? The guy from Sega?

Anyway, it's nice to see some people still support the Rev.

Barkworm

08-22-2005, 03:28 AM

Yep, he's the guy who created Sonic.

ThirdMarioBro

08-22-2005, 11:33 AM

Co-Created Sonic. Naoto Oshima created the character, Naka directed the game, and yes, I'm being a picky jerk :P :D

Barkworm

08-22-2005, 11:35 AM

*tries to kick TMB but gets hypnotized by panty shot*

愛

08-22-2005, 11:13 PM

.............I don't know where else to put this, and I'm sure as hell not making another thread for it.

______________________________________________

Square Enix Acquires Taito
08.22.05 - 12:46 PM

Square Enix today announced its intention to acquire at least 247,900 Taito shares worth 45.16 billion yen (409.10 million USD), thereby making Taito a subsidiary. Kyoto-based electronics maker Kyocera, which holds a 36.02% stake in Taito, has already approved Square Enix's takeover bid. Both companies want to profit from their existing overseas businesses: While Square Enix has a strong presence on the North American market, Taito is stronger positioned in the European market. The acquisition of Taito will also mean Square Enix's entrance into the arcade sector.

While Taito is best known for its amusement and arcade facilities, the company recently signed a publishing agreement with Nihon Falcom, under which it has released PlayStation 2 remakes of Ys III, IV, V and Zwei in Japan. In September, the company will release a PlayStation 2 remake of Langrisser III in Japan.

________________________________________________

Oh snap.

ThirdMarioBro

08-23-2005, 01:10 AM

Ah, fu*k, there goes another one. The creators of Space Invaders and Puzzle Bobble, owned by Square. *sigh*, guess that's another Playstation exclusive developer.

Bye bye Taito. Goddammit, there goes another developer I like. This is getting worse and worse. Taito and Square have absoultely nothing in common at all. I think they're just going to get buried so Square can use their distribution facilitys or something.

This just sucks. :( :cry:

Barkworm

08-23-2005, 01:19 AM

Aww, come on, Square also develops for Nintendo. Not much, but still.

ThirdMarioBro

08-23-2005, 01:44 AM

Meh, no sense ragging I guess. What's done is done. In the meantime, here we go...

________________

First, a lesson in Nonuniform Rational B-splines.

http://www.mactech.com/articles/develop/issue_25/schneider.html

Got that? Good. We've referred to it in the past as "Cube Mapping". Basically, you can achieve Xbox 360 levels of performance with much lower requierments of techinl power. I think you know what we're talking about now, so here we go ;)

http://www.cgonline.com/content/view/1067/

and another one

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=60174&page=1&pp=50

and another one

http://cube.ign.com/articles/642/642885p1.html

near the end of the article NOE statement "The only thing I can tell you is that very soon there will be important news about Revolution."

and some crazy crap

http://gear.ign.com/articles/643/643663p1.html

more clues

http://cube.ign.com/mail/2005-08-16.html

"In your last mailbox you mentioned that there would be more information about the revolution shortly after Leipzig. How educated of a guess is this?

Matt responds: I wouldn't call it a guess.

Matt is usually right about this stuff.

And finally one more

http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=5602&pg=1&comments=full#comments

I think something's brewing. All the media joints are tight lipped. I'm going to find out what's going on here. Still, I think something's coming and damn fast. We'll see...

Oh, and this.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n08/bzpj/index.html

Famicom themed Game Boy Micro and a new Dr. Mario Panel de Pon combo cart. I'll be importing the Japanese one as fu*king NOA plans to place pokemon characters in Panel de Pon instead of the original fariys and music like usual. Fu*k them, I want the original. Oh, and I'm importing the Micro since those jackasses seem to only want to give the US 2 colors while Japan gets 5, and Europe gets 4. Again, fu*k them. oh, and now Metroid Hunters and New Super Mario Bros have been pushed to 2006 along with Zelda. Now all that's left is Mario Kart unless the bastards decide to delay that too. Goddamn you Nintendo. For a third time, FU*K THEM! Ugh, so much for that merry Christmas. Hello shiny new Xbox 360.

This Revolution info had damn well better be good as I'm so past my tolerance level with Nintendo's stupidity right now...

愛

08-23-2005, 07:18 AM

At least this is releasing this year... (http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2005/1775.html)

Mecha Cow

08-23-2005, 07:28 AM

Alright! I read about the name being announced on IGN but I must have missed the release date.

Hopefully it'll come out here by the end of the year, it's probably my most anticipated game at the moment.

ThirdMarioBro

08-23-2005, 01:56 PM

Thank heavens. At least there's something to play this year.

ThirdMarioBro

08-23-2005, 11:06 PM

Apprently, Nintendo Pennet Chase Baseball is dead, along with its developer. NoA approved the game, but NCL wasn't happy with the quality, so Nintendo of Japan canned it, and disbanded the developer.

That's the story of how that died. So much for competing baseball games I guess. Dosen't affect me, but just thought I'd post it.

Barkworm

08-23-2005, 11:35 PM

Thank heavens. At least there's something to play this year.
As far as DS games are concerned, there is really no problem. New SMB, Viewtiful Joe, Phoenix Attorney etc. So much great stuff is coming out.

Spitfire

08-24-2005, 01:05 AM

There is going to be a Smash Brothers for DS? I thought that was a rumor O_O If that's true then I'll skip Jump Superstars and get Smash Brothers because my friends will get it too and 2 player will make the game last alot longer

愛

08-24-2005, 01:10 AM

It says SMB...

ThirdMarioBro

08-24-2005, 02:11 AM

There isn't a confirmed Smash Bros for DS as of yet. Just a teasing statement from Miyamoto which basically means it is in development. But it'll be a LOOOOONG while. Just get Jump Superstars for now.

Oh, and New SMB has no release date whatsoever. It'll probobly, no definately fall into next year sometime before E3. Nintendo announced their fall line-up, and SMB isn't in it. It and Metroid Hunters got bumped. Another reason I'm mad as hell at them.

Spitfire

08-24-2005, 03:28 AM

Oh my I need sleep >< I read that wrong. But I would like to play the new mario Brothers game as well...I guess I will have to get JS to hold me over then.

愛

08-24-2005, 12:12 PM

I just read this on IGN...the great place for information. :ohwell: But seriously, this is messed up.

______________________________

Where Are You, Kirby?

I was reading the list and commented that two games have gone off the list. TP and pennant baseball but, what about Kirby GCN? I thought it was supposed to be released right around November but, its not listed on the list that Nintendo is releasing.

Matt responds: Yup. Our old pal Kirby is relaxing a bit for the moment. The new Kirby game for GameCube isn't scheduled for a 2005 release, according to Nintendo's calendar. Rather, the title is listed as TBA sometime after the release of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess next year.

______________________________

So Kirby got pushed back, too? What the hell is Nintendo doing?!

Mecha Cow

08-24-2005, 01:27 PM

What the...?!

Now there are ZERO big games coming out on Gamecube for the rest of the year...And it's only August. This is stupid as hell. COME ON GUYS!

I don't think many people will still be interested in the 'Cube by the time Zelda comes out...:ohwell:

愛

08-24-2005, 01:43 PM

I'm not thinking so, either. I'm probably not buying anything new for the Gamecube until Zelda comes out. It's even saying Kirby might come out AFTER Zelda, which is like, next year's July! Screw that! I'll be interested in other stuff before that.

Barkworm

08-24-2005, 02:09 PM

Who, for christ's sake is supposed to buy GC games next July??? I don't get it.

ThirdMarioBro

08-24-2005, 02:33 PM

The answer is:

Nintendo is fu*king stupid. All of those games will just get pushed to Rev. Delaying the titles just gives them the sxcuse they need. They know they can make $$$ off of their portables in the meantime. That's probobly the only reason the Game Boy Micro exists. They knew they were going to pull this crap from the begenning. It was a setup to get a lot of Revolution launch titles and bury Gamecube early. Pricks.

ThirdMarioBro

08-24-2005, 05:18 PM

*edit* Early comment: Digging up more news...

Spitfire

08-24-2005, 07:59 PM

Did you guys hear about the REAL Resident Evil DS check it out...it's REmake but who cares?
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/8752/residentds12lx.jpg
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/5944/residentds24pq.jpg

Duke

08-24-2005, 08:24 PM

I'm really starting to hate Nintendo. I can't believe I'm saying it but that's really how I feel.

愛

08-24-2005, 08:52 PM

Dude, that DS remake looks beast. Ghetto graphics, but It's Resident Evil. I'd buy it, no doubt.

ThirdMarioBro

08-24-2005, 08:56 PM

Yeah, I'll buy that sucker. Gimme gimme. Anything RE.

And no, I'll never hate Nintendo. That dosen't mean I can't be so mad at them I want to egg their cars, but I could never hate them. It's just not in my blood. Been through too much with them over the years.

The Stryker

08-24-2005, 08:58 PM

Im wondering what the bottom screen is gonna incorporate. isn't the whole point of the DS the touch screen?

Spitfire

08-24-2005, 09:14 PM

Im wondering what the bottom screen is gonna incorporate. isn't the whole point of the DS the touch screen?
Map? Item menu? Not all DS games use the bottom screen some use the bottom screen for display purposes like Star Wars Episode 3 and Need For Speed 2

ThirdMarioBro

08-24-2005, 09:59 PM

Or Mario Kart DS and other stuff. Not every game has to use the thouch screen unless they need it for something.

Barkworm

08-24-2005, 11:06 PM

RE DS looks neat but isn't one of the main points of Resident Evil to get scared? I don't think that will be possible on the DS.

Spitfire

08-24-2005, 11:29 PM

RE DS looks neat but isn't one of the main points of Resident Evil to get scared? I don't think that will be possible on the DS.
Well if you've played RE 4 you will notice right away that scare factor is gone completely. It's pretty much an action game now with horror elements. Ones that fail to scare you, kinda like an Amercian horror movie. But I won't notice any difference since RE never scared me to begin with. Not past the age of 12 anyways.

malignant

08-24-2005, 11:39 PM

Anyways...

Buy Nintendogs !...It's adorable... :P

GK Punk

08-24-2005, 11:44 PM

What's with these Rumors of a new Metroid 2D game? anyone know anything?

ThirdMarioBro

08-24-2005, 11:52 PM

Hmm? I've heard nothing.....but then again, I haven't been looking. Lemme go dig some on that one. I'd die for one more 2D Metroid.

*UPDATE*

Magazine scan from Game Informer lists a new title for DS called Metroid Dread'

http://home.comcast.net/~lazie4351/NintendoE3.jpg

This is the first I've heard of it. Looking for more info.

*UPDATE 01*

http://wwww.nintelligent.net/news2529.php

Nintelligent.net reconfirms this. Interesting...

Spitfire

08-25-2005, 12:31 AM

That Zedla game sounds pretty cool! I'll get that for sure. Wow DS is REALLY surprising me. I thought it was going to be like my Gameboy Color and only have a handful of titles I care about on it. Now it has more then any other system and then some.

GK Punk

08-25-2005, 12:34 AM

Well, this... "Metroid Dread" has piqued my interest.

As soon as more info becomes available (since I don't keep up on games like I used to) could you let me know TMB?

愛

08-25-2005, 12:48 AM

He lets people know whether they like it or not. :lol: There's not much else to do other than frantically search for something to smile about, because Nintendo hasn't given me much to smile about recently other than good DS releases.

ThirdMarioBro

08-25-2005, 03:12 AM

Yup. Its not like I have anything else to do. Gaming is my life. I've tried doing other things. I just can't. It's my calling :D

btw, I'm getting dragged off on another "Family Camping Trip" tomarrow weither I like it or not. I'll be back Sunday night, LATE. I hate camping. Ugh. Lemme know if I miss anything (which is doubtful in August).

*edit*

I'm tired of being mad at Nintendo. Tired of being mad at any game company. They all do what they do for some reason, and I bitch about it because I don't understand why. Whatever. as long as I get Mario Kart DS, Mario and Luigi 2, and my new Xbox, it'll be a happy Christmas. I'll buy my own GB Micro, and get my sis one too. No more bitching. Video games are supposed to be fun....and my DS is going to be my best friend on this damn camping trip. Ugh.

Mecha Cow

08-26-2005, 03:46 AM

I stopped being mad a while ago. In fact, I don't really care anymore, and it's kind of refreshing. Nintendo can do whatever they want, if they put out good products, I'll buy 'em. If they don't, I'll seek my gaming pleasure elsewhere.

TMB is right, gaming should be fun. And next gen., I'm just gonna buy whatever looks fun, without checking for a Nintendo label first (Note to the slow: No, I never actually did that).

As for Metroid Dread...It was announced a few days before E³, and has been confirmed as real several times now. I hope we get some screens and info about the game soon; I'm really excited about it. I can't stand Metroid Prime, so a new 2D Metroid is great news to me.

Barkworm

08-26-2005, 09:18 AM

Speaking of Metroid Prime: "Hunters" has been pushed back to 2006 to get online play implemented!
Source! (http://ds.ign.com/articles/645/645718p1.html)

Dinny

08-26-2005, 12:02 PM

Have you guys seen this? Shenmue could be headed for the Revolution.
http://games.kikizo.com/news/200508/141_p1.asp

ThirdMarioBro

08-26-2005, 05:15 PM

Found a Wi-Fi port at the lake. Won't last long. Go fig. :roll:

One, I'll buy Nintendo's console. I always will. I'm just not going to let that keep me from everything else as well. Now....

As for Metroid Dread being real (I did not know this as Gameinformer is sh*t as a sourse)

W00000000000000000000000T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And as for Metroid Hunters being delayed for Wi-Fi, I'm proud of them. The game would have been mostly worthless without it, and if they needed the time to impliment it, I'm glad they took it. Very nice job Nintendo.

Oh, and whatever platform Shenmue winds up on, BLESS YOU SEGA for finishing it. I thought that was a pipe dream. That's the Sega I know.

愛

08-26-2005, 05:52 PM

Dude, Shenmue was quite possibly the best game on Dreamcast. God bless that game. Simply amazing. The second game was just as good on Xbox (Dreamcast for the importers like me). I will be preordering that the moment I can, because I need it.

ThirdMarioBro

08-26-2005, 06:41 PM

Shenmue was the best game on Dreamcast. Big words when almost every game on it was amazing, but its true. Yu Suzuki may not be directing it, but it dosen't matter because he wrote the story and the design is all finsihed before he left. As for the music, I have faith in Yuzo Koshiro on his own, so no worries there. He's a god of music. The fact that Shenmue is getting its finale may damn well be the best news all year.

ThirdMarioBro

08-26-2005, 09:25 PM

Time for a good ole fashioned WTF moment.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/Peach_supermariostrikers.jpg

:lol: :lol: This Super Mario Strikers artwork is halarious.

*edit*

Another part of me just died.

http://www.ngcfrance.com/news.php?opérande=0&idx=4051&r=1

The Stryker

08-27-2005, 04:19 AM

I hope SMS is better than that Baseball game they have out now. I did not like that at all.

I'll just be calling the game Super Mario Strykers for ego purposes.

Hm i can't wait till Mario, Luigi and Peach are secret characters in the next Def jam game. :lol:

Mecha Cow

08-27-2005, 06:09 AM

I LOVE that Super Mario Strikers (Or Mario Smash Football as it will be called here...) artwork. I'm glad they went with something stylish and original as opposed to the usual 3D renders.

As for Mario and company being secret characters in SSX...It's stupid, but I pretty much expected it to be true from the moment I heard the rumors. At least it's a step up from street basketball.

ThirdMarioBro

08-27-2005, 08:47 AM

Yup, the artwork is a nice change from the usual. I read that they got the guy who did Sonic Battle's art. That's probobly because the development team that is doing the game usually works for Sega, and has done a LOT of Sega arcade sports titles. Thus it's got some Sega attitude in its blood.

I can tell you for sure, its NOT like Mario Baseball. Even if I based my opinion on the half assed build I played at E3, I'd say its the best sports game I ever played. In total I had to play it for like 2.5 hours at Nintendo's booth. It was just that much fun. It seems like the first spinoff since Mario Kart that actually deserves to exist. Unlike the other Mario sports games (which I'm not really a fan of), this one is fast, furious, a party game, and designed with a purpose in mind. The powerups don't seemed forced, the sucker is practically drowning in attitude, and presentation is all there. Baseball is just...meh. Hit the ball, run the base, hit the ball wash, repeat. I still like 1996's Ken Griffy Jr's Winning Run for SNES better. The game is fun to a point, but overly simplistic. Strikers on the other hand, never stops moving, constantly gives you a challenge, and is the best Mario multiplayer game since Mario Kart (not better mind you, but a good second).

Mikey the Party Turtle

08-27-2005, 09:47 AM

Have you guys seen this? Shenmue could be headed for the Revolution.
http://games.kikizo.com/news/200508/141_p1.asp

......I think I just had a heart attack.

THANK YOU GOD. There might be a Shenmue III afterall. :cry:

ThirdMarioBro

08-27-2005, 10:17 AM

My sintaments exactly dude :)

Spitfire

08-27-2005, 01:09 PM

Ohhh Mario Soccer! My new intrest in Mario Sports games has me excited over this and Mario Baseball. Mario Golf I didnt like. Mario Cart was fun though...and I'm going to buy Mario Tennis!

The Stryker

08-27-2005, 10:54 PM

Mario Tennis is a good ass game. many 2am pepsi driven gaming marathons.

I'd rather have Mario and the gang in NBA street, atleast its a solid arcade baller without the risk of shaky gameplay like Mario Baseball.

((Tuesday is my Day of reckoning! :D ))

ThirdMarioBro

08-27-2005, 11:06 PM

Okay, I take that back. Tennis was fun. I enjoyed Power Tennis's over the top 'ness, and its music was kickass, but Golf was still sh*t. Tennis had some great elements, but I REALLY hate Golf.

Spitfire

08-28-2005, 10:43 PM

I like it ^_^ I bought it yesterday! I'm going to rent Mario baseball because that looks fun too!

Deathknight

08-29-2005, 08:18 AM

I think the DS has a lot of potential but the problem is that Nintendo needs to get games out for it sooner. They can't just keep delaying anticipated titles when they have such strong competition.

Spitfire

08-29-2005, 03:04 PM

I think the DS has a lot of potential but the problem is that Nintendo needs to get games out for it sooner. They can't just keep delaying anticipated titles when they have such strong competition.
The chances of the PSP ever beating out the DS are -2,000 to 1

Barkworm

08-30-2005, 12:00 AM

Actually the PSP has been outselling the DS in the USA for quite a while. Not in Japan though, there the DS is totally kicking the PSP's ass. It's a pretty interesting handheld race.
BTW, is it true that the GBA Micro is $20 more expensive than the SP?! Because if it is, the only people who are going to buy it are Nintendo hardcore fans.

Deathknight

08-30-2005, 10:18 AM

Personally, I think anyone who buys a GBA Micro is a sucker. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the SP and I really don't think the Micro will be any better. Though I think I'm going to need a new battery pack for my SP soon, I've recharged it so many times. I eagerly await a title that I want to buy to appear on DS. There are like 5 that have been announced that I'm definitely going to get. The titles being, Metroid Prime Hunters, Super Mario Bros DS, Mario Kart 64 DS, Final Fantasy 3, and Zelda DS. Speaking of FF3, has there been any news about a release date for it? I haven't heard anything in awhile.

ThirdMarioBro

08-30-2005, 05:39 PM

Well, then call me a sucker, because I just preordered the little bastard :lol:

Yeah, Nintendo's just milking it, but I think its cute to no end. That, and Pelican is going to release a custom faceplate printer template along with a clear plastic faceplate so we can make custom faseplates when Nintendo acts stupid and only releases some sport pack or faceplates in the US. :roll:

The ability to put Jpop on my Game Boy is something I consider worth my $100. That, and its small enough to wear around your neck. Now, plug a Play Yan into it and listen to MP3's on it, while its got a Morning Musume faceplate and I call that sweet.

But yeah, I am stupid for paying Nintendo full price for the same damn thing for a third time. GBA should have been backlit, the SP should have been back lit, and now we have Micro. Bout' fu*king time :lol:

Oh well, the faceplates sold it. If it was just for the light, fu*k that. I've got DS, but the faceplates sell it for me.

Oh, and its not Mario Kart 64 DS. It has 20 tracks from the whole series in the game, but there's also 20 brand new ones too (plus 4 new battle tracks and some clasics) which is the same Double Dash, and 64 each had. It's got a whole game's worth of new content in there too such as a pinball table racetrack. You're still getting a new game's worth of content. The classic stuff is just there so those classic tracks can be played online which is awesome.

Oh, and Barkworm, have you seen any US sales charts? I'd like to see how things are going. I can't get them anywhere.

Deathknight

08-30-2005, 07:32 PM

SP wasn't backlit? I can always see everything perfectly on my SP anyway.

ThirdMarioBro

09-01-2005, 07:03 PM

SP is frontlit. Thus that's where that horrible rainbow glare comes from.

Now that the downtime is over, here's some news.

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Nintendogs sells 250,000 in first week in the US
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Say hello to the new Pokemon. I saw 3 FU*KING HOT women playing Nintendogs on their DS's in the mall today. They were all taken, but still. 3 Women playing DS for puppies. It's crazy out there.

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Japanese Hardware Sales
01 - Nintendo DS - 80,945 (1,462,984)
03 - PSP - 23,923 (1,150,150)
04 - Game Boy Advance SP - 16,721 (483,335)
06 - Game Boy Advance - 822 (17,219)
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B*tch slap in the face for another week. Man...now for a big ass one.

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PlayStation 3 GPU Less Powerful than GeForce 7800

When Sony unveiled its next-generation PlayStation last May, one of the slides displayed in the presentation showed that the PlayStation 3 GPU had the power of two GeForce 6800 Ultras working in SLI mode (nVIDIA's Scalable Link Interface multi-GPU technology). At that time, nVIDIA (the developer of the PlayStation 3 RSX GPU) has not yet unveiled its latest graphics architecture, formerly code-named G70.

But now that the GeForce 7800 GTX and its little brother, the recently announced GeForce 7800 GT graphics processing unit, have been announced, and an interesting tidbit comes from none other than the Official PlayStation Magazine.

The Inquirer reports that an nVIDIA spokesperson was quoted in the magazine saying that the RSX GPU is basically a slightly less powerful GeForce 7800.

That means that almost a year before launch, there’s a PC graphics chip that is more powerful than the RSX GPU found in the PlayStation 3. And make no mistake, this is not a crazy, speculative conclusion ; this comes straight from the company that makes both parts: the RSX and GeForce 7800 graphics processing units.

That’s not good news for consoles, being that the typical 4-to-5 year lifecycle a console must survive allows computers to catch up quickly with the technology found on next-generation consoles.

Usually, game consoles ship with hardware that is not available on personal computer at the time of launch, and a few months later, PC hardware manufacturers create hardware parts that surpass console technologies.

But launching with a technology that is already available on PC is not good at all for a “next-generation” console. By the time the PlayStation 3 launches, there will be already a new GPU from nVIDIA that will be more powerful that their current flagship GPU, the GeForce 7800 GTX.

So, what about the Xbox 360? In the case of the graphics processing unit designed for the Xbox 360, ATI has included technology on the Xenos GPU that won’t be available for PC graphics chip in the next twelve months, including the unified shader architecture and the embedded DRAM daughter die.
A so called R600, which might debut towards the launch of Windows Vista, in the fourth quarter of 2006, might incorporate the special technologies ATI put into the Xbox 360 GPU.

With a three-core processor and its state-of-the-art GPU, the Xbox 360 hardware won’t be matched by PC until late 2006, when quad-core processors from AMD and Intel arrive and Windows Graphics Foundation 2.0-compliant GPUs, featuring unified shader architecture, arrive.

Source: Team Xbox & Official Playstation Magazine
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Yes people, Sony committed the ultimate fu*k up right here. The Xbox 360 is going to win next generation, I guarntee it now. Sony fu*ked up again. This is big...VERY big. Microsoft built the better machine. Now we wait for Nintendo to drop their hand.

For the first time in 5 years, Nintendo will attend the Tokyo Game Show, and in Iwata's speech on September 16, the Revolution is slated to be unveiled in full. It won't be playable in any form, but it will be seen, understood, and explained. It's about fu*kin time Nintendo. Now we can get some real analysis going on next gen in the comming weeks.

愛

09-01-2005, 07:20 PM

That's ghetto. Then I'm expecting major video lag for the high-end games that are brought to PS3. What a disappointment. Good thing I'm buying it regardless, or else I'd be pretty pissed off.

I look forward to that speech of Iwata's. He's a well-spoken man and I hope to see some good stuff about Revolution.

ThirdMarioBro

09-01-2005, 07:42 PM

Yeah, I was talking to the some guys at Planet Gamecube and Gamespot, and apprently the development community has seen Revolution and there are many, many project going for it that we just don't know about. They're under NDA's until Nintendo unveils it, then they can show and do what they please. Things are apprently not so bad for Nintendo as the world seems to think.

And with PS3 having lower class abilities than expected, how is it that Sony thinks they can justify the price they claim it will ship with? That's bogus. They better have some damn fine launch titles available.

Kid Icarus

09-01-2005, 10:01 PM

Just poking in here real quick...

Grabbed Nintendogs today. The Dachshund version, so I could have a Shi Tzu puppy.

And suddenly the DS makes perfect sense. This game uses nothing but the touch screen and mic. It actually uses the two screens, and uses them well. The graphics, while not Pixar quality, are very impressive. The animations are top notch, as are the sound effects. My puppy *really* does sound like a Shi Tzu puppy ( we had raised five of them, by the way, and currently own two... so trust, i know what they sound like).

And the game is just fun. By all means, it shoulden't be... but it is.

The best part... it's actually proving that Nintendos theory on making games for *everyone* can work. No less them seven of my coworkers played with Nala today, and each of them figured ou exactaly what to do in a matter of seconds. Sure, they didn't get to call her to the screen by her name, or make her do tricks by voice... but they had fun with it.

Kudos Nintendo.

ThirdMarioBro

09-01-2005, 10:49 PM

Yeah, I didn't think Nintendo could pull it off in the US, but they did. It floored me. Nintendogs is really appealing to everyone. It's just amazing.

Kid Icarus

09-01-2005, 11:02 PM

And, so far, it's doing better here then in Japan. In it's opening week there, the game sold some 180,000 copies. Here, in five days, it sold 250,000.

Very impressive.

Barkworm

09-02-2005, 12:15 AM

I'm actually surprised that it's selling so well. Great news! I won't buy it though, this kind of game is just not for me.

Oh, and Barkworm, have you seen any US sales charts? I'd like to see how things are going. I can't get them anywhere.Yeah, it's so hard to get some freaking sales charts for the US. The latest charts I've seen are from July... :ohwell:

ThirdMarioBro

09-02-2005, 12:31 AM

And, so far, it's doing better here then in Japan. In it's opening week there, the game sold some 180,000 copies. Here, in five days, it sold 250,000.

Very impressive.

Holy sh*t! I didn't know that. I was mixing up the sales with Jump Superstar's numbers. Man, that is impressive.

Barkworm

09-02-2005, 02:49 AM

Check this out guys, Sega has released a little online playable demo for "Feel the Magic 2":
http://akadoko.sega.jp/taikenban/index.html
Have fun! :D
EDIT: The whole thing will take a little while to load.

Dinny

09-02-2005, 11:15 AM

The chances of the PSP ever beating out the DS are -2,000 to 1

So therefore the PSP's chances are tremendously high?
Also, it seems as though Tycho is finally singing the DS's praises http://www.penny-arcade.com/news.php?date=2005-09-02

ThirdMarioBro

09-02-2005, 01:14 PM

Before Advance Wars: Dual Strike, the system was building toward a solid first party lineup, but many of the titles were clever games that were situated too deeply in a niche. Excellent, provided you owned the hardware. Advance Wars completes the shift that games like Meteos and Canvas Curse started - to the degree that I can wholeheartedly recommend the hardware. I didn't know that I'd ever be able to, and it took a while, but they've really learned to make the machine sing.

I still believe that the PSP is an amazing piece of hardware, but it's a sentiment I'm not entirely sure Sony shares. It's clear that there is a kind of tug-of-war going on internally about the level of multimedia power they should expose to customers, and it's really diminished my perception of the company's stature. Their lineup is anemic. UMD movies are apparently moving briskly, but as a game system all that initial momentum has evaporated. You'll recall that the PlayStation 2 entered a phase like this as well, its multimedia prowess taking the fore. I wouldn't be without it on a plane, but that's got nothing to do with games.

I would never have called it, indeed, I remember that it was once the uniform, unassailable belief that the DS was proof Nintendo had gone out of its fu*king mind. I didn't want to subscribe actively to the position, but all the same I feared it was true. It's also widely held that innovation is either dead or, at the very least, bad business where videogames are concerned. It's refreshing to see the counterexample.

Yeah, I agrew with that. DS's games lineup was sh*t most of the first half of this year. Total bleh, but after Kirby and Meteos came out, woah. They system flew sky high. PSP has had potential up to this point. Lots of it, but those jackasses won't release any new games, they're banking on movies (fu*k that), and now the bastards won't even give me the ability to encode any video for the system that is above 4:3 ratio at 320x240 resoultion (which again, is sh*t even on a small screen). Like I said, it was worth it for Ridge Racer and Lummies, but the only thing on the horizen I can see myself buying is Namco Battle Measuem, and that's just fu*king 3D Pac-Man for crying out loud. Bleh. There's also a new 2D Ghouls n' Ghosts title from Capcom comming (YAY!) but that's a damn year away at this point. The only reason I'm buying Street Fighter Alpha 3 is for the animated cut scenes. It's not like the game will be playable to any extent with that damn nobby D-Pad. To be fair, you couldn't play it on DS either. Neither of the D-Pads can be easily rolled, thus making Capcom fighters totally unplayable.

PSP has seriously disappointed, not I hear next year they are planning on releasing a new model with a Hard Drive built in. I call that 1. Damage control, and 2. Pissing off the poeple who already own one. I bought the fu*king thing for GAMES Sony, not so you could release a new model and sell me movies on some download service or itunes wanna be that I have no intent of buying, ever. I want new GAMES!

Meh, fu*k them. *goes back to Advance Wars DS*

Dinny

09-02-2005, 02:25 PM

What's that GTAesque game coming out for PSP where you play as a highway patrol officer? It's supposed to be the PSP's new killer-app.

ThirdMarioBro

09-02-2005, 04:34 PM

Dinny

09-03-2005, 05:05 AM

I thought GTA itself was supposed to be the killer app? 0_o?

I think you mean True Crime: Strets of New York. That's just an upcoming console title (GC, XB, PS2) that's getting ported down to PSP. It's not really a big exclusive deal or anything. PSP's big deal is GTA Liberty City, but from what I've seen, not that many people seem to know or care.

True, GTA is the killer app, but I don't know when it's supposed to be released, so I didn't mention it. But that game I was talking about was Pursuit Force http://media.cube.ign.com/media/748/748415/imgs_1.html and it looks amazing.

ThirdMarioBro

09-03-2005, 02:08 PM

Just a note, you posted a link to Super Mario Strikers ;)

Dinny

09-04-2005, 10:10 AM

Just a note, you posted a link to Super Mario Strikers ;)

Well, that looks amazing too :D http://media.psp.ign.com/media/698/698344/vids_1.html what Sony would do to be able to put Super Mario onto one of their consoles...

Barkworm

09-06-2005, 03:24 AM

I've just read that Sony sold 185.000 PSP units in its first week in the UK, topping the DS launch numbers by no less than 98.000 units...
Dammit, I hoped that asshole Phil Harrison would get bitchslapped. :cry:
I'm still not buying one since I truly believe it's an overpriced piece of crap that has absolutely no games I'd like to play. There's almost nothing but Racing games for it, for god's sake!

Dinny

09-06-2005, 10:58 AM

Have you guys seen this, apparently Miyamoto did a radio interview in Japan and dished out a lot of information regarding the future of Zelda, and the Revolution's new controller. http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?page=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/news/news_story.php(que)id=124831

ThirdMarioBro

09-06-2005, 06:02 PM

Mario is and always has been a concept title from his birth. We are always looking for new ways of playing with him, manipulating him, to create something new and unique. We're in the midst of preparing something special for his future, something never before seen. You'll understand when you see it that we can't quite release it right away. The new Mario game will surprise many people. Give us the benefit of the doubt. I think we'll present you with a new way to have fun. There's even a new character by his side.

Yes, of course! It's no surprise (that the game will be for Rev), but of course we will rename it, obviously. That won't be the only surprise of next year though. We based the Revolution around this new type of game. Mario 128 played a large role in the Revolution's conception, much like Mario 64 in it's time. But we won't just be focusing on Mario. We're working on some very impressive games which push interactivity to the max. Games of a new era.

Okay, I'll buy that one. Sounds good.

you will have to be patient, really. This will be, without a doubt, the last Zelda game as you know it in its present form. I worked on it personally, moreso than Wind Waker! I haven't invested as much into any game as I have this one. Our goal was to make the best Zelda game ever. The most rich/satisfying and melancholy. We've really improved it in just a few months. Everything's coming together much quicker. We may have some last minute ideas...

Okay, that scares the living fu*k out of me. Zelda's the one thing they've managed to not fu*k up this generation. God forbid they mess with that up too. Sounds like another internet panic on the horizon come E3. Hoo-boy...

We will be revealing many details (on the controller) soon. It's true, we do like surprises (laughs). While our gamers are sleeping, we're busy thinking up new ideas. But while they're playing - we're playing as well.

Oh, and the controller will be at TGS. That's confirmed through various sources. They could change their mind, but I doubt it. Spet 16. is the day people. Mark your Calanders.

愛

09-06-2005, 06:12 PM

I like that line. "While they're playing, we're playing as well." It gives me a lot of comfort for some reason.

I believe anything Miyamoto says. I don't know why, but he's a trustworthy guy.

ThirdMarioBro

09-06-2005, 06:23 PM

Yeah, he really is. He's probobly the only person left in the whole damn company I still trust. Hell, he is Nintendo as far as I'm concerned. Always has been. He really tries hard to make things that are special, and actually cares about pushing the bounderies. He gives off that appearance is person as well.

And yeah, that quote does sound somewhat comforting for some reason. I just love that guy.

Kid Icarus

09-06-2005, 10:01 PM

On the Miyamoto thing, by TMBs topics:
1) Sounds good. Yep, Mario has been more about the concept then the actual games he's in. He's about new gameplay, fun, ect. We've heard this about a billion other times from Ninty, so, moving on.

2) I think he means in the way that LttP was, in a way, the last Zelda of it's kind, and OoT started a new version of it. Just last year they out lined just what made games Zelda-esq. Why explain, and map out, and go through all that trouble if you're planning on changing everything shortly after? *pops some valum into the internet*

3) I'm olmost positive that there isn't a controler at this point. It's simple... The big change to game playing is going to be done by, get this... hitting the console to make the disc jump to new sections of data! :-O. After E3, I'm not getting my hopes up for any big unveiling rumors.

I will say this though: Wait past that date, and they've ****ed themselves over big time. 360 comes out in a matter of months now. They can't afford to hide things any longer, and still hope to keep market share. I don't care how damned revolutionary it is, it's olmost becoming too little too late for Nintendos console side. The DS has pulled off what it has because Nintendo still owns the vast majority of the handheld market. You can shake things up when you're the market leader. It's harder to do that when no one's interested.

About the quote: If they're playing games while we're playing, and making the games while we're sleeping.... when do they ever get any sleep? o.O

I've just read that Sony sold 185.000 PSP units in its first week in the UK, topping the DS launch numbers by no less than 98.000 units...
Dammit, I hoped that asshole Phil Harrison would get bitchslapped. :cry:
I'm still not buying one since I truly believe it's an overpriced piece of crap that has absolutely no games I'd like to play. There's almost nothing but Racing games for it, for god's sake!

Numbers *sold* or numbers *shipped*? Sony has always put out their shipped numbers, as opposed to Nintendos sold numbers.

Barkworm

09-06-2005, 11:26 PM

That's actually a good question. Supposedly it's the number of sold units (it would make sense since the PSP software sales were incredible last week). As far as I know those numbers weren't announced by Sony but a independent institute for sales number, so it's probably true. In Germany on the other hand Sony themselves announced that the complete shipment was sold out but I can confirm that that's BS.

EDIT: Has anyone heard about this game?
http://www.gamespot.com/ds/puzzle/ouendan/index.html
http://www.gamespot.com/ds/puzzle/ouendan/index.html

It's a bemani game about people who have trouble in every-day situations. You have control of three professional male cheerleaders who come to help those poor guys. I totally fell in love with those videos. The graphics are extremely sweet, the soundtrack seems to be AWESOME (I think I even heard some Asian Kung Fu Generation in one of the videos) and the gameplay looks very promising. Too sad this will probably be never released here and if it was it would probably get butchered. :cry:

ThirdMarioBro

09-07-2005, 07:31 PM

Gawd, being a gamer in Germany must suck ass. They seem to chop up everything.

Barkworm

09-07-2005, 11:22 PM

That's true for gory games but what I actually meant was that if the game was released outside Japan the J-Pop and J-Rock would probably be removed. Look what happened to Donkey Konga.

ThirdMarioBro

09-07-2005, 11:31 PM

Yeah, that absoultely pisses me off. They killed Donkey Konga 2, and raped then killed the second one.

That's mostly why I don't care if Jam with the Band ever comes out here. I'm importing that mug for the original music and upgrade carts we'll never get. I will not buy a goddamn Nintendo game with Hilary Duff music (Konga 2) period. Fu*k localization. *shudder*

Barkworm

09-08-2005, 12:12 AM

The European version was pretty good but I would have preferred to have those Japanese tracks in it. Anyway, did no one check those "OUENDAN!" videos out?

GK Punk

09-08-2005, 12:47 AM

Krang

09-08-2005, 01:36 AM

EDIT: Has anyone heard about this game?
http://www.gamespot.com/ds/puzzle/ouendan/index.html
http://www.gamespot.com/ds/puzzle/ouendan/index.html

It's a bemani game about people who have trouble in every-day situations. You have control of three professional male cheerleaders who come to help those poor guys. I totally fell in love with those videos. The graphics are extremely sweet, the soundtrack seems to be AWESOME (I think I even heard some Asian Kung Fu Generation in one of the videos) and the gameplay looks very promising. Too sad this will probably be never released here and if it was it would probably get butchered. :cry:Although I'm a big fan of the genre, I actually haven't heard of that game until now since I mostly follow the Konami games (especially Pop'n Music). I watched the videos, though, and it seems really fun, so I'll have to look into importing that one. You're right, though, it doesn't sound like the type of game that would be released outside of Japan.

Yeah, that absoultely pisses me off. They killed Donkey Konga 2, and raped then killed the second one.

That's mostly why I don't care if Jam with the Band ever comes out here. I'm importing that mug for the original music and upgrade carts we'll never get. I will not buy a goddamn Nintendo game with Hilary Duff music (Konga 2) period. Fu*k localization. *shudder*Yeah, for those of us who appreciate the original soundtracks, it's always better to import music games since they almost never have the same soundtracks when released in other regions (partly because of licensing and partly because of what's "popular" in those areas... :roll: ).

And on a somewhat related note, I'm really looking forward to the expansion pack to Daigasso (even more so after seeing the song list). I didn't know that the DS was able to use both cartridge slots simultaneously, but I'm glad to hear it.

ThirdMarioBro

09-08-2005, 12:53 PM

Yeah, that's the primary reason the designed it with two cartidge slots. They wanted to use it as a way to upgrade games. Technically, they could have used another medium, but hey already have factories manufacturing GBA carts and the tools needed, so its cheaper for them to just store expansion packs on GBA carts instead of opening a factory for a new expansion medium.

It's also believed that some online software will be stored on those GBA carts as well, so they'll get a lot more use out of them. The backwards compatability thing with old GBA games is actually faked. Two years ago, Nintendo patented GBA emulation. People thought Nintendo was just doing a legal crackdown on emulators, bu it turns out that they actually planned for that to be a part of their DS patent and were going to actually emulate the GBA hardware inside the DS on the ARM9 chip. It was really just a throwback since they were going to keep the cartridge slot for upgrades and such, and wouldn't be there otherwise.

It's also still there because it's a direct line to the motherboard, so they (or third parties) can still manufacture strange add-ons or perhipherials for the unit that need to latch onto a durable cartridge slot (something the little SD card slot couldn't handle) so it expands the machine's future upgradability. Technically, they could even use that slot to install more RAM or stuff in the future if they needed it (though not likely) orflash memory for like Mp3 playback and such. The DS is a very expandable machine when you look at it under the hood :D

And I'm also really looking forward to that Daigasso expansion too. Star Fox Assualt music is amazing, s I want to hear how they translated it. Plus, there's just more game music in it as well, so I'm happy with that.

ThirdMarioBro

09-08-2005, 11:52 PM

Revolution Patent Alert.

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=4&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=nintendo.AS.&OS=AN/nintendo&RS=AN/nintendo

I didn't read all that crap yet, but I will in the morning. I gotta get up early and preorder Mario Kart DS and Animal Crossing, as well as put down more $$$ on my 360 to cover any near Christmas cash problems I might have, because after that Sonic game they just announced....sweet mother, that's too damn good looking.

Odd to say this, especially with Sega this past gen, but I'll do it anyway.

Sega raised the bar again, now Nintendo's got to beat it....again. :lol:

Kid Icarus

09-09-2005, 01:36 AM

Browsing through it, here's a few stand outs:

- ATI's card will take computations away from the main CPU and place them on the graphics chip, allowing more AI and computational routines to be ran. A note is made that this fixes some complaints from digital artists.

- The processor example is a PPC750 (Power PC G5, in other words). We know the Revolution has decent power behind it now. Before the Apple attacks start, keep in mind Microsoft was running their 360 demos off of G5 hardware at E3.

- Controlers are noted with a and b. Two possible controlers? Two parts to one controler? This looks to support the gyro rumor.

There's also a reference to high-end computers being needed to emulate the systems hardware.

ThirdMarioBro

09-09-2005, 09:33 AM

Interesting stuff. Now I wonder about the clock speeds and those processors, and what they plan on doing about the audio chip. Frankly, I'm really hoping Nintendo drops that MIDI system they've been using since N64. It was placed in the Gamecube's audio processor, but it's finally starting to get dated. The music all sounds the same, and those horns sound cheezy. Here's an example. The music in Mario Kart Double Dash used the synth and sounded fake and empty, while the music in Metroid Prime and Mario Power Tennis used custom samples (like the SNES days) and all of it sounded original and unique, and each had a seperate style that helped set the games apart in feel.

Oh, and if you've heard how poor that MIDI was used in the Nintendo Puzzle Collection like me, you'd hate it too. I want samples back, and from what I hear, Rev's going to have a Dolby 7.1 chip. Badass.

Kid Icarus

09-09-2005, 09:55 AM

My guess is they'll go with the low end chip (2GHz), to save money, if they just go with a standard PPC and not a custom design (which is very possible). The processor isn't where the real shine's going to come from, I think. My guess is on the graphics chip.

Anyone know what ATI's been up to lately?

ThirdMarioBro

09-10-2005, 07:27 PM

Nope, they've been all hush hush. I guess that could be a good thing.

Kid Icarus

09-10-2005, 09:25 PM

Could be. So, Thursday...

What happens if Nintendo holds back the information yet again?

They've never shown anything at TGS... why start now?

Mass internet riots? Killing sprees? Gwgtrunks having am emotional break down seconds before work?

Also, what time is Iwata's keynote? I imagine early in the morning, at least in our time (isn't Japan a day ahead?)

愛

09-10-2005, 09:34 PM

Japan is 13 hours ahead of the East coast, so you do the math for your time. ;)

And I really hope they don't hold back information. I'd cry, too. :cry:

Kid Icarus

09-10-2005, 10:28 PM

I was told to wait till E3... then to wait more at E3...

If we don't hear anything at TGS, There will be hell to pay.

Edit: So, we'll know around 1 AM on Thursday, or so.

ThirdMarioBro

09-11-2005, 04:24 PM

Yeah, if they disappoint again, well, fu*k them. This is their last chance in my mind. I ready for some news. Don't fu*k up Nintendo, or there will not be "another" chance. Last time.

Oh, and everyone, get those European PSP sales out of your heads. Thise dicks as Sony used their "Shipped" numbers rather than their "sell though" numbers to cover up the results and attempt to diss DS. I hear the actual sell through was significantly less. Not a terrible amount, but enough for DS to keep it's crown. Real numbers should come soon.

Demented Utrom

09-11-2005, 08:05 PM

My Thoughts.

If the new Zelda, game turns out to be awful.I would be pretty mad since I have all the US released Zelda games, excluding the collecters edition.

I want revolution, info soon since I'm buying the system
Nintendo's fall line up doesn't look that great.
Zelda, was their big release for November.
If the extra stuff is not worthwhile.
What was the point, of delaying the game.

Hardcore Zelda fans, will only buy the game.
If they delay again to November 2006, nobody will buy not even the hardcore fans.

Peanut

09-11-2005, 08:22 PM

Hardcore Zelda fans, will only buy the game.
If they delay again to November 2006, nobody will buy not even the hardcore fans.

Hmm. I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you here, my friend. I think the game will still do quite well, maybe even a bit better, considering the hype for the Xbox 360 will most likely have died down a little after the holiday season. No doubt the game would have made a killing for Christmas, but I think it'll still do well.

Another delay will probably kill a lot of hype though. I will agree with you on that. :)

Kid Icarus

09-11-2005, 11:29 PM

the game was pretty much done though... and with an aditional six months dev time, it better be the best damn Zelda game I've ever played.

And no, not only hard core Zelda fans will buy the game. Twilight Princess is the most anticipated title as of now.

Side note: I knew Sony didn't release their real numbers. They never do. Ever. My guess? Around 30,000.

ThirdMarioBro

09-12-2005, 12:44 AM

I'm working on finding out the real numbers. I want to see what's so bad that they're covering it with blantant lies. :lol:

After what little I played at E3, the game was already the best Zelda ever. It better be the best damn video game ever after the delay.

Barkworm

09-12-2005, 03:44 AM

I'm actually more hyped BECAUSE of the delay. Nintendo had the balls to piss on sale numbers in order to make this game perfect. I would kiss them for that!

Dinny

09-12-2005, 10:18 AM

Japanese Sales Charts: 8/29 - 9/4

* 1. DS - 58,579
* 2. PS2 - 26,282
* 3. PSP - 22,610
* 4. GBASP - 11,081
* 5. GC - 2,388
* 6. GBA - 538
* 7. Xbox - 198

To be perfectly honest, if the DS continues to more than double PSP sales in Japan, I don't think Nintendo need to worry about the European PSP launch.

愛

09-12-2005, 10:35 AM

It's funny, because all of my friends (the few that I have anyway) own a PSP. When they ask why the hell I bought a DS when I could've bought a PSP, I always give the same answer. "When I'm not home and I bring a handheld with me, I wanna play good games on it." I'm not all about the video playback and mp3 function. The browser sounds pretty nice, but it's nothing special to me. I can wait until I get home to watch videos and listen to music and browse the internet. Besides, the PSP has what, two good games? Not enough for me to buy a PSP yet. I'll wait.

Kid Icarus

09-12-2005, 10:43 AM

I'm actually more hyped BECAUSE of the delay. Nintendo had the balls to piss on sale numbers in order to make this game perfect. I would kiss them for that! Heheh... N64 days flashback ;).

It's funny, because all of my friends (the few that I have anyway) own a PSP. When they ask why the hell I bought a DS when I could've bought a PSP, I always give the same answer. "When I'm not home and I bring a handheld with me, I wanna play good games on it." I'm not all about the video playback and mp3 function. The browser sounds pretty nice, but it's nothing special to me. I can wait until I get home to watch videos and listen to music and browse the internet. Besides, the PSP has what, two good games? Not enough for me to buy a PSP yet. I'll wait. :o

I've only ever seen on PSP in public, and that was months ago at the Harry Potter release.

ThirdMarioBro

09-12-2005, 12:32 PM

I saw a couple at an Oklahoma classic gaming con (both were Ridge Racer. I raced with them for awhile), and there was that one dude at CompUSA, but other than that, I just see demo units. I usually keep Lummies in mine, but I almost always wind up playing it at home because the battery won't last the 3 hours my family can spend gtting geroceries, and frankly, you can only play Lummies so long before you have to switch to something else.

I take my DS and Advance Wars Dual Strike everywhwere. That game is godly. Probobly the 4th best portable title I've ever played.

*edit*

Revolution Patent translation #1

http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_messages.php?board=909104101&topic=23443994&page=0

Interesting sh*t.

Kid Icarus

09-12-2005, 02:03 PM

Thats pretty much what I figured, minus the two console aspect.

As far as the controler thing goes... the Gamecube has 4 diffrent controlers. Standard, Wavebird, Bongos, and a dance pad. They're just saying that, while it will primarily use *one* type of controler, others may become avalible at later times.

Peanut

09-12-2005, 07:09 PM

It's funny, because all of my friends (the few that I have anyway) own a PSP.

It's funny, because I don't know a single person, IRL, who owns a PSP. I've also never layed eyes on one. I haven't even seen a demo unit before. On the flip-side of the coin, I've seen a lot of DS's.

愛

09-12-2005, 07:17 PM

That's because you have no friends! :D

ThirdMarioBro

09-12-2005, 09:11 PM

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/105053

This is some funny shinzit. :lol: :lol:

Kid Icarus

09-12-2005, 09:53 PM

NEW INTERNET CATCH PHRASE!

DJ Luke rocks the house! *does the Zelda spining dance*

In a side note, today is the 20th aniversary of the release of Super Mario Bros.

Barkworm

09-12-2005, 11:41 PM

Besides, the PSP has what, two good games?
Two??? Which ones (racing games don't count ;) )?

ThirdMarioBro

09-12-2005, 11:46 PM

NEW INTERNET CATCH PHRASE!

DJ Luke rocks the house! *does the Zelda spining dance*

In a side note, today is the 20th aniversary of the release of Super Mario Bros.

Yes it is. I've had this avvy for the past week to celebrate the occation. It's an important day in the history of gaming :)

*EDIT*

Don't ask me where the info came from, but I believe Revo info may come earlier this week than planned. Don't hold me to it, but I have a simi-reliable source.

ThirdMarioBro

09-13-2005, 01:30 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/mario_cake_smallcopy.jpg

Happy B-Day to anyone who is old enough remember (and care about) the original Super Mario Brother's oiginal B-Day! ;)

Kid Icarus

09-13-2005, 11:47 AM

I'm so gonna play some more SMB when I get home... on my NES... with the hand-cramping rectangle controler. h4rdk0r3.

ThirdMarioBro

09-13-2005, 11:50 AM

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/4049/bring105yy.png

That has to be one of the funniest photoshop jobs I've ever seen.

*edit*

http://forums.advancedmn.com/showthread.php?p=237390#post237390

I gotta go out to a class, so watch that thread. I'm not allowed to say anything more.

愛

09-13-2005, 12:16 PM

Oh, I'll be watching...as I play my DS. Hand gets cramped as hell holding that stylus after a while, though. ;)

ThirdMarioBro

09-13-2005, 12:59 PM

Use the Mario Kart stylus ;)

愛

09-13-2005, 01:04 PM

I know, but when I do, the thing is so goddamn HUGE, that it gets in the way of my vision when playing. :lol:

Peanut

09-13-2005, 01:06 PM

I always use that Mario Kart stylus! :D

Except when I'm playing Canvas Curse, because you need exact precision for that game.

ThirdMarioBro

09-13-2005, 08:48 PM

Okay, you're all going to hate me for this. This hurts so much it burns. It burns deep.

I know what the Revolution is, but I am solomly forbitten fro telling until Thursday night. I probobly can leak it early, but not this early.

ARRRRRRRGHHHHHH I SWEAR TO GOD I WANT TO BLAB SO BADLY!!!!!!!!!!

Must....constrain....self.

Okay, if I tell, I get sued. Yes, apprently Nintendo has search tools that would find it if I told, and they WOULD come after me hardcore.

I will say this (and judging my recent state twords Nintendo and their policy, I hope this hold a little more weight).

They are going to blow your goddamn socks OFF. Nintendo hit it hardcore. I can't say how, I can't say what, but Nintendo will score major if they don't fu*k up TGS and keep their mouths shut. if they announce this sh8t Friday morning (Thursday night for us Western folk), Nintendo is going to pw0n the whole damn internet.

It's so hard not to tell, I swear it is. But I also know they would have my ass for dinner if I did, and they would find me.

ThirdMarioBro

09-13-2005, 09:12 PM

Also allow me to state that they have means of tracking my email accounts and internet activity. I don't know to what extent, and I didn't know this 4 hours ago, but they can kill me legally whenever they so feel.

The main reason I posted this is so to relieve any fears that the Revolution won't kick ass. It's goddamn amazing. I swear I would tell if I could, but if I did, Howard Lincoln's minions would come to my house and basically serve me. I know someone who this happened to, and he lost his house and car in a public debt auction. They went after his relitives too to make their point clear. Nintendo is a mercyless bitch.

Thus is the burden of an NDA.

Peanut

09-13-2005, 09:16 PM

Damn it, TMB why do you taunt me so?

Kid Icarus

09-13-2005, 09:33 PM

Trust, you don't mess with people under Nintendos NDA's.

Pokemon USA has me under the same kind Nintendo gives to people. It's over ten pages of what you can, and cannot, do/say/think/feel/comunicate.

If TMB lets slip anything, he's gone. We won't know what happend to him, he'll just *poof*.

Although... olmost worth it to find out what the Revolution is early ;).

(just joking TMB... :D )

Barkworm

09-13-2005, 11:36 PM

Although... olmost worth it to find out what the Revolution is early ;).
I totally agree. Just think about it, you'd die or something to make us happy! Isn't that worth it? ISN'T IT????

Dinny

09-14-2005, 12:11 AM

Okay, if I tell, I get sued. Yes, apprently Nintendo has search tools that would find it if I told, and they WOULD come after me hardcore.

If you don't tell me now I'LL sue you
:evil:

Kid Icarus

09-14-2005, 12:43 AM

The Nintendo Swat Ninja Team, or a lawsuit from someone on the internet?

You simply just don't mess around with Nintendo and NDA's. Period. Things get real messy, real quick. It'd make kill bill look like a Disney movie.

Need we bring up Nintendos ties to the Yakuza (Japanese mob)? And lest we forget Reggie Fils-Aime.

Besides, we can wait till Thursday... right? 2 more days? Just chill, go play some more games, and stop worrying. Nothing I hear about Revolution has me worried anymore. I've yet to hear anything massively bad about it.

ThirdMarioBro

09-14-2005, 01:15 AM

Need we bring up Nintendos ties to the Yakuza (Japanese mob)?

And just for the record, he's not making that sh*t up. Dig in your history books to find some fu*ked up facts regarding this....or I'll just spill it later.

Two words: Ninja Poker

GK Punk

09-14-2005, 02:42 AM

And just for the record, he's not making that sh*t up. Dig in your history books to find some fu*ked up facts regarding this....or I'll just spill it later.

Two words: Ninja Poker

Does this have anything to do with Ninja Basketball?

I wanna hear more about these Mob connections.

Kid Icarus

09-14-2005, 09:53 AM

All I |<now about it is that the connection exists. My guess is Nintendo's trying to |<eep it all under wraps. Could damage their family friendly image. Maybe TMB |<nows more?

ThirdMarioBro

09-14-2005, 11:33 AM

Oh, yeah. This is one of my favorite stories. It's so rediculious it almost sounds made up, but it's not.

*I'll probobly turn this into an some kind of an editorial sometime next year so please don't copy paste this off the forums as it is hard as hell to come across ;)*

Waaaaaay back in 1889, there was a little company called Nintendo Koppai (Leave Luck to heaven). It was founded by Fusajiro Yamauchi. They were a Hanafuda (Japanese equivilant to Poker) card game manufacturer. Now, at this point, America was in the heart of it's industrial revolution, and dealing with the Mob ruling the underground of major cities. Japan was actually still rather primitive, had closed their boarders to the rest of the world, and was dealing with the Yakuza, or the Japanese mob. For an example of that, watch Kill Bill. They're not kidding.

The Yakuza basically owned certain towns and provinces. They came in, you did what they said, or you died. No discussion, no questions, no options. They were the boss. And when they came in, there was rarely anyone to go to for help who would give a damn.

Nintendo was located (and still is) in the little village of Kyoto, the spiritual center of Japan. They were in a really ancient and highly refurbished building that Fusajiro had paid to have "modernized". In that building, they manufactured Hanafuda cards. The building is long gone nowadays, but Nintendo actually still owns the land it once set upon and have the original plack from the front door in their offices.

Sometime around 1899, Nintendo had all but taken over the Hanafuda market alltogether. Their cards were the highest of quality, and perferred choice of serious card sharks across the country. This is when the Yakuza moved into Kyoto and overthrew the local authroity. For a time, it became their crime center. Kyoto became a nervewracking place of hell and torture. Old Fusajiro Yamauchi had the hardest of times, because the Yakuza were notorious in those days for their gaming. Like I said, Hanafuda is their equivilant to poker, and the Yukuza took it seriously. HARDCORE. They decided to "make Nintendo an offer they couldn't refuse" and declared to Mr. Yamauchi that Nintendo was now their official supplier of Hanafuda. Since they never played with the same deck twice, they needed a constant supply, and it is thought that this is the main reason they moved into Kyoto. This turned the locals against Mr. Yamauchi, but honestly, what choice did he have. Basically, it was make cards for the Yakuza, or have them burn is company, rape his wife and daughter, and then hill him and his son Sekiryo.

There are many legends of what went down in those Japanese spiritual caves where the Yakuza had their games. Some are true, some aren't, but the most popular one is of a story Fusajiro himself is claimed as telling where the Yakuza forced his entire family to sit through many of their games as "honored guests" watching the horrors of what i affectioniately call "Ninja Poker". If you lost, you were killed, raped, cut up. Forget Strip poker, these people played for body parts. If you cheated.....hoo boy. Surfice to say the Yamauchi family went through some horrific and terrifying nights in those days filled with blood, death, and nightmares galore.

In time, the Yukuza just got bored with their games and left. Nintendo stayed in little Kyoto and expanded their offices in 1924. Fusajiro's son Sekiryo took over in 1929 and expanded them into other card games ,and struck a deal with Walt Disney to make Mickey Mouse cards. Many Mississippi riverboar poker games actually used Nintendo brand playing cards. Basically to them, the high end import stuff that rich elitiest card sharks used. When World War II came, Nintendo closed it's doors as the Japanese Imperial government forced most entertainment companies to convert their factories to weapon manufacturing and bomb building. Nintendo was a game company and wanted no part of the killing, so they closed their doors until after WWII was over.

Then in 1949, Heroshi Yamauchi overthrew his father by force, fired his own brother to secure loyality, and turned them into a toy manufacturer that got into amusement games.

Around 1969 there was a bowling craze throughout Japan. Nintendo was oblivious to this, but an amusement company called Service and Games owned a large chain of bowling alleys. *coughSEGAcough* ;)

Now, Nintendo was looking for some loooong real estate to convert into clay duck shooting ranges, and bowling alleys were prime real estate for that. Nintendo waited two years for the craze to bottom out, then Heroshi Yamauchi went and bought out 80% of the chain from the local managers, thus effectively killing Sega's bowling enterprise and sparking the birth of a blood fued that wouldn't die until 2001.

Now you can see there's a little more weight behind the little old game known as Duck Hunt. ;)

And I think we all know the legend of Heroshi's exploration into other industries such as instant rice, and their inamous Love Hotel where bosses and their secretaries could go and get messy without the wife knowing. They even had their own "staff" for those without a partner. The building still stands today and you can see the fading imprint of Nintendo's name where it once was written.

Then in th elate 70's Nintendo licensed the Oddysee in Japan and got into the Game and Watch, and the rest is history.

Thus is the legend of one of the longest surviving game companies in the world. Their legend spans two world wars, blood fueds, Ninja Poker, and a whole lotta juicy sex. Pretty good for the house people say Mario built. Mario's only been around a short amount of time in the grand scheme of things. More like the house that ninja poker built :lol:

Again, please don't copy paste this off the forums as I'll probobly rewrite it in higher detail next year in some editorial special. Thank you :)

Kid Icarus

09-14-2005, 02:05 PM

Now that was some interesting shtuff right there.

Almost sidetracked my mind from the fact that in a little over 24 hours we'll finally know what the Revolution is, and why the hell we should buy it.

In actual Nintendo news, Randy Peretzman has retired. That's the guy that went door to door with the NES to get stores to carry it when America had *no* videogame industry. It's easy to say that with out him, we woulden't be playing games today. His replacment is Kevan Wilson.

ThirdMarioBro

09-14-2005, 02:11 PM

Damn, he will be sorely missed. I guess the old generation of Nintendo is fading away as they step into a new frontier.

*edit*

http://gameboy.ign.com/articles/650/650891p1.html

Final Fantasy IV for the GBA this Christmas. Score.

ThirdMarioBro

09-14-2005, 04:22 PM

http://forums.advancedmn.com/showthread.php?p=238423&posted=1#post238423

New Box Art. AC looks awesome, Mario Kart looks Badass (especially the new logo) and M&L 2 is the best box art this year imo.

*edit*

24 hour to Revolution

Kid Icarus

09-14-2005, 10:15 PM

That Mario kart one owns my soul.

愛

09-14-2005, 10:22 PM

I must have both! I have to start saving now for all the DS releases coming up...

Kid Icarus

09-14-2005, 10:33 PM

There's just too many games comming out. I've got no idea how I'm gonna play all of them. There's a good 20 games comming out before the end of the year.

Kid Icarus

09-15-2005, 07:13 AM

Barkworm

09-15-2005, 07:45 AM

WHAT THE F*CK????
Wait, wait, are we talking spin-offs here or the real deal???

Dinny

09-15-2005, 08:49 AM

And so it begins... REVOLUTION NEWS!

Dragon Quest confirmed for Revolution on Nintendos press site!

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/1166/dqrev9ww.jpg

Image comes from a user on the Planet Gamecube forums.

That picture was removed because of high bandwidth, anywhere else you can see it? And if not, was it good or bad?

Barkworm

09-15-2005, 09:02 AM

It wasn't a screen shot from the game but from the official Nintendo press site where the news was posted.

ThirdMarioBro

09-15-2005, 10:55 AM

That was legit. It got yanked by Gamespot after a call from Nintendo. They got the big one, the one people die in the streets to get on launch day. Dragon Quest. Sweet Jesus..... :o :D *dances*

*Please God, don't let Nintendo screw this up*

*goes to Doctor's office*

Kid Icarus

09-15-2005, 11:43 AM

WH00t! Man, TMB, thanks for getting a press job :D.

This had better the real series... and if it is, SquareEnix looks to back in full force.

EDIT: Want the pink Kirby Canvas Curse stylus from Japan? http://www.nintendo.com/stylus_offer/

Looks like Nintendo listened. If you have a My Nintendo account, and have the game registered, you can get one for *free*.

愛

09-15-2005, 11:48 AM

SquareEnix has always been in full force....even though Final Fantasy has seriously gone downhill. But after their awesome movie, I can't doubt them anymore.

Registered Canvas Curse! Can't wait to get my homo stylus. :lol: Thanks for the info, Gwg.

EDIT: And while I was at the Nintendo site, I subscribed to Nintendo Power again. It's been a few years since I got it, and I'd like to get it again. $20 for a year subscription is a good deal.

Peanut

09-15-2005, 01:28 PM

I can't get the Kirby stylus. :(
I did get 3 free issues to Nintendo power though, with the option to re-new to a full year subscription for only $12! YEAAAH!

愛

09-15-2005, 01:30 PM

Psh, I got that, too. You just suck. ;)

Kid Icarus

09-15-2005, 01:48 PM

I meant full force as in, back on Nintendos consoles full force ;).

three hours. Augh. I'll be taking my night break at nine, so six more hours of waiting for me. ;_;

愛

09-15-2005, 01:55 PM

I'm going out for the night in a few hours, so I have to wait until later tonight to get the info. :cry:

Kid Icarus

09-15-2005, 02:00 PM

This sucks. TMB needs to hurry up and leak info to us, Nintendo Swat Ninjas non-withstanding.

Actually, I'll pry just watch his keynote. AMN is gonna have it for free. That way I can pee my pants all at once, instead of several times through the day.

Peanut

09-15-2005, 06:16 PM

It's so close! COME ON! If Nintendo lets me down on this one, I think I may just kill myself.

ThirdMarioBro

09-15-2005, 06:22 PM

40 Minutes to Iwata.

God, so much to post, time is vry limited.

ThirdMarioBro

09-15-2005, 06:33 PM

UPDATE

The Revolution I was shown is a fake. AMN was scammed by someone who did some sort of redirect with Nintendo's email press contact info.

I repeat, the Revolution I was shown was FAKE.

Son of a goddamn b1tch. Now I'm back in the boat with you all and nurvous as hell.

29 minutes.

Peanut

09-15-2005, 06:39 PM

You've got to be kidding! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

ThirdMarioBro

09-15-2005, 06:41 PM

This is goddamn NUTS. I'm going to kill myself now.

20 minutes.

Nturtle

09-15-2005, 06:42 PM

Out of curiosity, what were you shown?

Peanut

09-15-2005, 06:43 PM

Dude, at least come on MSN so you can tell me when something breaks!

ThirdMarioBro

09-15-2005, 06:44 PM

I'll say later. I've got to cover the real stuff right now. Hells breaking loose in Tokyo right now, and the Microsoft conference news is comming in as I type. Iwata's next.

16 minutes.

Kid Icarus

09-16-2005, 12:36 AM

Figured I'd bring the Revolution controler discussion back in here.

What are some forms of gameplay you want to try the controller with?

For me, I think FPS/A's are going to be *much* more fun. I picked up Gumshoe for the NES... and I got my Zapper to work. This game would be awesome on the Revolution.

For those of you who haven't heard of the game, here's the break down: The man character walks forward at a set speed. To get him to jump, you shoot him. Yep. You shoot your own character. As you walk along, bottles and cars and other things get thrown or dropped on you, and you have to shoot those things or else you die. It's insanely fun, and I could totally see a remake happening of this.

And the big one... how about Metroid Prime 3? Remember that feeling of being in the suit from Prime? Well, now you get to hold Samus' gun. Use the A button to fire, remote to look and aim, and controll stick to move. Pretty much exactaly as IGN has it written down. That experiance alone would be worth the system.

How about the new Mario game? Miyamoto has said that he designed the controller around his plans for the game. Could we see the return of the Fire Flower? Aim with the remote, B to fire, A to jump, and the analog stick to move around. The D pad could be used to control camera angles. Or, better yet, move Mario with the remote. Tilt it or push it forward for Mario to walk or run, turn it to make him turn... lift the controler up suddenly to make him jump.

And a web browser. use the remote as the mouse, and have a keyboard attachment. Boom, suddnely you have your way to chat. Or how about hooking a headset up to the remote?

At first I didn't think the controler was a good idea... but now, after thinking about it... I'm stunned.

Barkworm

09-16-2005, 12:43 AM

I'm usually not a big fan of FPS games but I agree that they're going to work great on Revolution. Apart from that I have no idea yet.

Kid Icarus

09-16-2005, 01:33 AM

I think FPS's are going to be like some crazy form of Duck Hunt. Point and shoot.

IMHO, this is going to be far easier then dual analog, or keyboard and mouse, for that.

ThirdMarioBro

09-16-2005, 01:35 AM

When I first saw this, I kinda sat there slack jawed for a minute. I didn't know what to think at all. I mean, had Nintendo lost their blithering mind? Then it slowly started to make sense little by little. I mean, the potential here is brain numbing. Absoultely brillient. I mean, I haven't been this excited over new video games in forever. There aren't going to be new games, they're going to be new experiences period. That there is remarkable in itself. I mean, it's been too long since we got to do something amazing like this. It's about time.

Nintendo has restored my faith. They had the balls to take the risk, and so far, it's looking good online. The online communities were all awake for this one, and the responces have "mostly" been fovorable even from what little we've seen here today. Now, when the magazines get ahold of this, the general public is going to tear Nintendo apart. For the first time in who knows how long, i'll be proud to defend their gaul and innovative spirit. This is great. Absoultely fu*king great. It makes me proud to be a gamer. I'll still buy that 360, and maybe a PS3 (if they get some games other than Grandpa Snake), but finally, this is what I'm looking forward to most. A new experience alltogether.

Thank you Nintendo. You've restored my faith, and restored my belief that you are the one true innovator in this gaming industry. This fu*king rules. I didn't think it would, but it sure as hell does. Thank you Nintendo.

Oh, and I'm so getting that Holo White model. Sweet mother that thing is beautiful. Better than Apple's design, and that's saying something. Nintendo officially has the sexiest machine by FAAAAR.

Barkworm

09-16-2005, 01:41 AM

TMB, could you tell us what the fake Revolution was you saw?

ThirdMarioBro

09-16-2005, 01:44 AM

I'll save all the fake tech specs and just say I was shown this fake piece of sh*t was the main part. Damn good scam there. They even rigged up the virus and everything, as well as the NDA which I think was legit. He just transcribed a real NIntendo NDA. Bastards. I delt with that virus btw. We plan on sueing the bastard who faked us when we're done tracing him, and we've almost got the prick.

http://forums.advancedmn.com/showthread.php?t=11714

I'm much happier with what we actually got. Really, I am.

http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2005/09/16/443527.html

Here's a demo video of the controller in action.

Barkworm

09-16-2005, 01:48 AM

Aww, come on, tell us the details. I'd really like to know what got you so excited on Tuesday. :D
EDIT: IGN has that video TMB posted in better quality.

ThirdMarioBro

09-16-2005, 03:24 AM

I'll do it tomorow before I leave town for the weekend Barkworm ;). I've had no sleep and have been typing news, MSN, AIM, and editorial content for 8 hours now, so I'm dead. :lol:

Kid Icarus

09-16-2005, 09:45 AM

The one thing I'm *really* liking is the power button the controler. I've wanted that feature for freaking EVER.

Barkworm

09-16-2005, 11:03 AM

And so it begins... REVOLUTION NEWS!

Dragon Quest confirmed for Revolution on Nintendos press site!
What happened to this? Is there any official announcement?

ThirdMarioBro

09-16-2005, 02:19 PM

I dunno. It leaked, then they buried it. *shrugs*

Nintendo's like that I guess. More should come in time. I gotta go. Stupid family trip to do a ton of work for a bunch of fu*king relitives I detest with the lowest regions of my being.

See you all Monday or so :)

ThirdMarioBro

09-17-2005, 10:47 PM

Hey hey hey, I thought of another Revolution controller idea.

How about Hockey games? How'd you like to take that stick and whack some jackhole with it on the ice? Hell, I'd play them for that. Every old ass idea seems new with this thing.

Kid Icarus

09-18-2005, 01:40 AM

I had an idea at work today for a new Tetris. 3D. You build it up in a cube shape (10 by 10). B to rotate, A to spin, and D pad down to drop faster. move the actual controler to move the piece around the grid.

So, if I wanted to bring the top of the Tetris piece closer to me, I'd hold down B and flick the controler up. If I wanted to make it go away from me, I'd flick it down. Same idea with left to right.

If I wanted to rotate the peice left, I'd hold down A and move the controler left. Same with right. You woulden't need to rotate them up or down, because of the spin.

You'd have to clear the full 10x10 layer in order to make rows dissapear though.

For difficulty settings, you could choose how many pieces you can view in advance, easy being three, extra hard being none.

As far as the display goes, you'd normaly see the standard puzzle. The blocks all turn one color when they become part of the puzzle, to add uniformity. You'd use the analog add on to rotate the actual puzzle. Z1 would switch the view with a top down angle, and Z2 would make the puzzle go transparent and highlight holes. This part still needs some work though...

For the modes,

EDIT: refined the controlls.
Edit 2: refined the views.
And a cooking game. I want one. Badly.

Dinny

09-18-2005, 07:31 AM

I have a question, how are game stores going to have playable Revolutions in the store? The Xbox 360 and PS3 are going to have wired versions of their controllers, but you can't really do that with the Revolution controller. So gamestores may choose not to have playable Revolution demos incase people steal the wireless controllers, and therefore the Revolution won't get the publicity it deserves. :ohwell:

愛

09-18-2005, 07:58 AM

I'm sure they can put wires that they make themselves on the controller so they can still use the controller the way it was designed, but ensure that it doesn't leave the store.

Dinny

09-18-2005, 10:00 AM

I'm sure they can put wires that they make themselves on the controller so they can still use the controller the way it was designed, but ensure that it doesn't leave the store.

True. Another thing I'm not sure about is the fact that the controller is aid to run on batteries, I certainly hope those are rechargable GBA-esque batteries and not disposable batteries.

Mecha Cow

09-18-2005, 10:15 AM

Didn't they say the controllers would use lithium batteries like the DS and SP? Could have sworn I read that somewhere.

ThirdMarioBro

09-18-2005, 11:09 AM

September 18, 2005

by: Jamil Matheny

After his TGS keynote speech, Nintendo's president lays out some further details about the next-gen system.
Reported by Tim Thomas

New information exposing further details about the Nintendo Revolution, has come through Spiegel Online's (now english-translated) interview with Satoru Iwata.

On the issue of ports, Nintendo has apparently been talking to publishers about bringing up new and unique ideas for key titles in the market-place that can be used to manipulate the possibilities of the new controller. Iwata goes on to say that most developers are quite interested in doing fresh things with the controller in existing genres, asserting that the controller offers a lot of potential. Certain genres actually play better with the new controller and "nunchaku"-expansion.

Mario 128, which Miyamoto has previously confirmed as being in development, was also mentioned. Iwata reportedly asked Miyamoto to have the new Mario game ready for the Revolution's launch, saying that [he] feels as a gamer that Nintendo need the title at launch.

He also addresses certain concerns around the new console -- namely graphics and online gaming. He assures that Nintendo know how important the two features are to gamers and that they will try to offer a better experience with the system. However, Iwata believes most non-gamers do not care about the best visuals, which is the main reason behind Nintendo trying to explain why games are fun to the demographic with the new controller.

Lastly, Mr. Iwata shares his thoughts on the multi-media functions for the system. While Nintendo have indeed brought the functions to the console with a DVD tray, online capabilities and internal flash RAM, it is important that a gaming system brings instant fun. If the gaming experience is not as fun on the system, he asserts, no one will buy it, not even for the multimedia functions.

source: Spiegel Online

And now the pressure for Mario to deliver begins...

Kid Icarus

09-18-2005, 11:19 AM

Heh, yeah, but Mario games always have a pressure on them to deliver... but i agree that this one has to more so then the rest.

ThirdMarioBro

09-19-2005, 08:44 PM

This weeks sales figures for Japan....

1. GBA: Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers
2. PS2:Shin Sangoku Musou 4 Moshouden
3. NDS: Tamagotchi DS
4. NDS: Brain Training DS
5. PSP: Winning Eleven 9
6. GBA: Super Robot Taisen J
7. GBA: Dr. Mario + Panel de Pon
8. NDS: Yawaraka Atamajuku
9. NDS: Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney DS
10.GBA: Mario Tennis Advance
11.NDS: JUMP SUPERSTARS
12.GBA: Mushiking
13.PS2: Winning Eleven 9
14.PSP: Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
15.PS2: Fire Pro Returns
16.NDS: Phoenix Wright DS Limited Edition
17.PS2: Tales of Legendia
18.GC: Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness
19.GC: Super Mario Baseball
20.PS2: Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix (Ultimate Hits)

Yes, for this week, a twenty year old video game is the highest selling video game in Japan. Happy Birthday Mario. Nintendo owns over half the top 20 list.

And thank God people still remember what Panel de Pon is. I am the Tetris Attack lord, so hopefully people will march their ass out and buy the US version as well (even in it's butchered form) and push me one step closer to reaching my goal of seeing it online with the DS. In case you forgot the magic of this little game I treasure so much.....take a look at this video.

http://www.tetrisattack.net/recordvideos/AbusedRib/TA/AbusedRib-TA-Chain-23x.avi

Lummies can't touch that. Meteos is just one step beneath it. Yeah, I want Panel de Pon online, NOW.

Kid Icarus

09-19-2005, 09:31 PM

Is that a 23 chain combo?

Sweet Jebus... The most I've gotten is an eight.

pw0nd.

EDIT: Just watched it. I need to change my underware now. ;_;.

愛

09-19-2005, 09:32 PM

Dude, I want that Tamagotchi DS...

ThirdMarioBro

09-19-2005, 10:14 PM

Is that a 23 chain combo?

Sweet Jebus... The most I've gotten is an eight.

pw0nd.

EDIT: Just watched it. I need to change my underware now. ;_;.

Yup, that's the world record. I made a run for it in a 12 hour marathon once, but the most I ever got on tape was a 16 chain. One day....

*edit*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/revcon2.jpg

Saw that and couldn't stop laughing.

poiuytre

09-20-2005, 02:28 AM

I really can't stress enough how disappointed I am with Nintendo, first they scare away the 3rd party developpers in the GCN generation and now they're only continuing on pushing them away with a controller like this. They already lost the best developpers like Square and Konami, it's only a matter of time before Capcom, EA and Ubisoft abandons them too.

I'm one of the many people that want traditional gameplay rather then something really innovative(read: weird). Now I've heard a lot of people say "Different is good", but so far, I haven't seen anything to back it up with.

I play games to relax, and not to tire my arms out. Anyone who swings a controller in the air as if they are swinging with a sword and doesn't feel like an idiot deserves a ribbon. I really hope for them they aren't planning to make Mario jump in the fashion of the Revo video either, because it would be the worst thing since FLUDD. People want a jump BUTTON.

The only thing that this controller helps is the FPS genre. But I honestly doubt the FPS audience is waiting to play a kiddie Nintendo shooter with inferior graphics that probably will star Mario, since Mario appears in every nintendo game these days.

Congrats Nintendo, you failed us once again.

*edit*
LOL @ ThirdMarioBro

Barkworm

09-20-2005, 03:49 AM

People want a jump BUTTON.
I guess most of our members are animals then because almost everyone here is thrilled by the controller. And you really can't expect to be taken seriously when you start with the "NINTENDO IS TEH KIDDIE!!!!11" crap.

愛

09-20-2005, 03:58 AM

Some people should just stay in the TMNT section. :ohwell:

poiuytre

09-20-2005, 05:31 AM

I guess most of our members are animals then because almost everyone here is thrilled by the controller. And you really can't expect to be taken seriously when you start with the "NINTENDO IS TEH KIDDIE!!!!11" crap.

Just like I'm supposed to care about what you said with the 1337-talk?

It's a fact that Nintendo focusses more on catering the younger players than the other consoles. This is good for the younger players ofcourse, but not for Nintendo's image, and this makes a lot difference in terms of sales.

The only thing I'm seeing on most forums I go to are a bunch of fanboys who are desperately convincing themselves that the controller is the best thing ever because their Revolution won't be able to keep up with the others in terms of specs. While I agree with Nintendo's idea on games getting repetetive, this isn't the answer. Innovation should come from the software. I already predict that 90% of the games can and will be played with the shell, rendering the "revolutionary" aspect useless.

I'm going to enjoy the new Zelda game, and say goodbye to Nintendo's home consoles.

*edit*
I'm aware that I'm stepping on some toes here, but this is "The Nintendo Discussion Thread" and not "The Praise Everything Nintendo Does No Matter What Thread". You have an opinion, but so does everyone else. I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion, I'm just sharing mine, so no hard feelings.

愛

09-20-2005, 06:41 AM

I think most software genres have been done already, so I feel innovation through software isn't really going to happen. That's why the controller seems to be a nice change of pace for games that have already been done before. It's more or less a new way to play the games you're already familiar with. It's true that it's a "like or not" type deal with the controller and Revolution as a whole, but I believe once people try it for themselves, they'll begin to like it a lot more than their previous opinion.

And you know, if people don't like the new way of gaming, there's two other consoles that do it the old fashioned way. They should look into those instead.

Mecha Cow

09-20-2005, 08:19 AM

It's a fact that Nintendo focusses more on catering the younger players than the other consoles. This is good for the younger players ofcourse, but not for Nintendo's image, and this makes a lot difference in terms of sales.
No, not really.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/MechaCow/p23.gif

What makes Nintendo different from the competition is that they aren't focussing all of their attention towards the 'hardcore' gamers. They want anyone to be able to pick up a DS or Revolution and enjoy it. You call it kiddie, I call it accessible.

And allow me to stress that no software has been shown so far. Let's wait until we see what the thing can do before we make any assumptions, shall we? You're not even giving it a chance, and that makes you no better than the rest of us 'fanboys'. ;)

ThirdMarioBro

09-20-2005, 09:19 AM

Well said. Nintendo produces games for the hardcore and the non-hardcore gamer. I don't call them casual because that term is usually reserved for people who unknowingly buy movie licensed crap (which isn't really an accurate terminology I suppose). For instance, Advance Wars DS and Nintendogs were released on the same day. One game for each demographic. Nintendogs catered to the casual gamer and the non gamer by using puppies (something anyone can understand) to lure in new people with the promise of a realistic virtual pet with simple controls and commands, and Advanced Wars kicked the ass of the hardcore with turn based military tactics and crazy Nintendo character style/presentation.

It's a matter of balance in the market.

They also make games to keep their fanbase happy. I mean, what reason do they have to produce a new 2D Super Mario Bros installment? To entice new gamers? Bullsh*t. They're doing that to keep us (the fanbase) happy because it's what we asked for. Same for Mario Kart. It's not really innovative in any way (broken touch screen steering dosen't count). Fans just wanted portable, old fashioned Mario Kart, so they use their powerful current handheld to deliver. Yet there's games like Brain Training that in Japan at least, get 75 year old couples playing video games. Hell, some of them go out and buy stuff like RPG's after they get past the initial "this is too advanced for me" stage. That's what these games are all about. Making new gamers, and showing them that they don't have to be intimidated by this technology and that anyone with the desire and some simple understanding can enjoy gaming. It's teaching people to broaden their horizens, and quite frankly, I think Nintendo is going to play a significant part is advancing the populace of tech savvey people in this world. They're using fun to introduce people to technology and gaming in a non intimidating way, while keeping their 25 years worth of fans satisified with new experiences and familliar faces.

And intorducing people to technology is never a bad thing. It's proven that the more geeked out people get, the more open they become to new ideas, and that makes the world a better place.

The main point is, Nintendo makes games for everyone. Not just hardcore, not just casual. Everyone. If you're more into traditional experiences, then there's pleanty of other options out there to explore in this broad new gaming world. Explore them and find what you like. Don't just limit yourself to one company or developer, because there are many out there who kick royal ass. I just try to encourage people to not slam Nintendo because I believe they're the only one that through both software and hardware try regularly to push us forward with new ideas and options, and usually, they're the ones who take the old ideas as well and know the best way to make them fun. There are countless new experiences to be had in the next 5 years, and I think all of them are going to be amazing and I'll enjoy many things on the new systems, but I still think Nintendo's has the potential to be the greatest simply because, it's something we've never done before.

it's only a matter of time before Capcom, EA and Ubisoft abandons them too.

Capcom's already developing for it along with Namco, Square-Enix, THQ, and Activision, Ubisoft is in love with it, and EA even said good things about it for sports games of all things. I'm not worried about third party support.

I play games to relax, and not to tire my arms out. Anyone who swings a controller in the air as if they are swinging with a sword and doesn't feel like an idiot deserves a ribbon.

Wrist movements will make the thing work just fine. The jumping around is only if you want to get into it, but by all means not required.

愛

09-20-2005, 10:15 AM

You type too damn much, TMB. :lol:

But it was all very well said. You bring up some very good points, too. Well done, my friend.

Kid Icarus

09-20-2005, 10:50 AM

It's olmost mirroring what Nintendo did with the Pokemon TCG. Took the existing concept Magic helped pioneer, cleaned up the overly-complex aspects, and released it.

And by the way, it worked. Magic still hasn't reached the ammount of sales Pokemon has, and Magic's approacing its 15th year (while the Pokemon TCG is only going on it's 8th).

Oh, and once again... I'd like to bring up the controller shell for Revolution. We'll see normal dime-a-dozen games on it too, along side what ever crazy shtuff developers have floating around in their heads. Not to mention you can play 25 years worth of the best games ever made on it.

Peanut

09-20-2005, 12:18 PM

They already lost the best developpers like Square and Konami, it's only a matter of time before Capcom, EA and Ubisoft abandons them too.

Despite the fact all of the above are thrilled and can't wait to create/are already developing games for the Revolution, right?

malignant

09-20-2005, 07:32 PM

I remember when gamecube and the DS both were annouced..all the developers jumping on saying they want to develope for them...

Where are they all now?

Spitfire

09-20-2005, 07:37 PM

I remember when gamecube and the DS both were annouced..all the developers jumping on saying they want to develope for them...

Where are they all now?
Being bought out by Sony

Peanut

09-20-2005, 07:43 PM

I remember when gamecube and the DS both were annouced..all the developers jumping on saying they want to develope for them...

Where are they all now?

I don't recall this. I remember a couple companies saying they wanted to develop for the DS, and they have/are developed/developing games.

malignant

09-20-2005, 07:51 PM

Well, the gamecube did anyways...

And the DS i guess just doesnt seem like it has much support. And i do remember when shown at E3 people saying how they could do new stuff with it and all. I don't know..i just dont see any good games for the DS now..or coming..other than Nintendos own.

ThirdMarioBro

09-20-2005, 08:08 PM

Gamecube, yeah, it tanked.

But DS....uh-uh. At E3 the DS had more games on the floor than the PS2. It was the system of the show by a long shot. People wanted to develop for the DS and they are. 125 development teams to be exact. Check your sources malignant.

And for the record, Gamecube did nothing revolutionary. It was just fixing the mistakes N64 made.

Kid Icarus

09-20-2005, 09:26 PM

The responses for Gamecube were kinda half-assed "wow, it'll be easy to develop for..." responses, samething Xbox was getting.

But by the time Gamecube had come out, those developers had figured out the tricks to making the PS2 easier. Gamecube didn't bring anything new to the table, besides the most egronomicaly designed controler, clicky shoulder buttons, and a button set up that only seemd to suit Nintendo's own games.

It's not that developers wern't interested... they were. They just found easier ways to get their titles out there.

It also didn't help that Nintendo only moved a fraction of the numbers they said they would. When you say 4 million in the first six months, and move less then 1 million, that's going to loose you support.

On the bright side, when Yamauchi left, so did a lot of bitterness between Nintendo and the third parties. Hell, the fact that Square Enix is giving us Dragon Quest again should prove how far they've come since the N64.

ThirdMarioBro

09-21-2005, 01:46 AM

Meh, Nintendo fu*ked up the whole Gamecube launch. No Mario, bad commercials, no hype, management change, a year late and alongside Xbox to boot, and left out DVD support thus handing SOny the crown instantly. Their problem was they were competing on Sony's terms. Now they competing on their own terms.

September 21, 2005

by: Chris Playo

RUMOR: Check out the latest rumor on the tech specs for the Nintendo Revolution.
Please Note
The following news story has not been confirmed by any official source, and the information presented does not reflect the views or beliefs of the Advanced Media Network.

The popular Internet message board over at GameSpot has recently been the source for the latest speculation on Nintendo's next generation console. Apparently, a Factor 5 employee known under the code name of Han Solo has revealed the system specifications for the Nintendo Revolution.

Under normal circumstances, such a post would be ignored by the gaming community due to a fundamental lack of credibility. However, in this instance, the source is a repeat offender. Apparently the folks over there have encountered the man before as it is said he virtually nailed the specifications for the Xbox 360.

Despite this it seems highly unlikely that a Factor 5 employee would know all the details of Nintendo's next generation system. Regardless, we give you the opportunity to judge for yourselves.

System 1 Modified
CPU:
1 IBM Custom PowerPC 2.5 GHz with 256 KB L1 cache and 1 MB of L2 cache (an L3 cache is rumored). It’s Dual Threaded

13 billion dot product operations per second

Revolution GPU:

ATI Custom based RN520 core.

GPU core at 600 MHz. Will support up to 2048x1268 resolution, HD support is still being decided. Will have 256 MB’s of 1T-SRAM

32 parallel floating-point dynamically scheduled shader pipelines.

Polygon Performance: 500 million triangles per second theoretical, average in game would be around <100 Million/sec>

Shader Performance: ~50 billion shader operations per second

Revolution memory: 512 MB of 700 MHz 1T-SRAM

The above content was taken directly from GameSpot's message boards. Be sure to stick with GC Advanced for continued coverage of the Nintendo Revolution as we await for Nintendo to fully reveal the system.

source: GameSpot Forums

This looks believeable. Good specs by themselves. Not as powerful as the other two, but with the oft rumored new mapping techniques, we've got a machine capable of outputting equal levels of visuals as the other two.

Also, we flubbed on that post. There will also be a Physical Processing Chip with it's own embedded 32 Megs of Ram which links the CPU, GPU, and Controller. There will be a seperate sound chip outfitted with Dolby DTS 7.1 surround sound (FU*K YEAH) and the ability to hit over 256 simultanious sounds for sample based or synth music as well as the ability to stream music like usual or load various audio formats. It will have the ability to load third party sound engines and feature 16 Megs of onboard RAM (Gamecube had less than half that).

Okay, I'm satisified with that. Controller, design, credible spec leak, and good specs too. Now they just need to confirm the new mapping engine and all is well.

*EDIT*

Nintendo pulls stealth launch...

http://gc.advancedmn.com/images/content/news/newGBASP.jpg

Fu*k Game Boy Micro. Give me this SP with it's larger display capacity and now BACKLIT screen. Nintendo just killed the Micro on it's own launch day. Stupid idiots. Won't be a massive problem, but still. What the hell's the point of the Micro now? Here's a pic in comparison to the old SP's to 1. show that it's already out in stores, and 2. that it's screen kicks both the original SP, and DS's ass in terms of brightness.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/GBASP_BACKLIT.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/noo_gbaD.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/noo_gbaF.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/noo_gbaG.jpg

Goddamn, now that is bright. it even pwns PSP. Hello Micro, bye bye Micro. Who's going to pay $99 for a Micro when you CAN RIGHT NOW get a $79 SP with a BIGGER AND BRIGHTER SCREEN?!?!? Hell, the SP always had a better design IMO (though those planned custom faceplates are sexy as hell), but the SP is so much more practical and durable. Bigger screen too. Micro is dead on it's own launch day.

Nintendo, you perplex me.

GK Punk

09-21-2005, 02:34 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/ThirdMarioBro/noo_gbaF.jpg

either that's fake, or he somehow managed to get the exact same pieces, at the exact same time, put them in the same spots, on two different games.

ThirdMarioBro

09-21-2005, 02:41 AM

That's a damn good observation right there AC because Dr. Mario's layouts are always randomized, but I just found this at IGN.

Today i saw a new gba sp box at superstore. I was the same as te older ones except that at the top it said something about having improved lighting and under that in samller letters it said it was backlit. No one seems to have heard of this, so am i hallucinating or is this some unoffical knock-off? It seemed official to me.

Looks like you're getting a sneak peek at the newest GBA rumor going around: Nintendo is, apparently, changing out the front-lit LCD screens on the Game Boy Advance SP systems in favor of much improved, sharper, and brighter backlit ones. According to the rumors, the company's getting a better deal using the newer LCD technology since it's already being employed in the Nintendo DS and the Game Boy Micro. So, watch for improved SPs hitting shelves very soon.

And to answer the inevitable next question: no, I'm pretty sure Nintendo won't have some sort of deal to trade in an older SP in favor of a backlit one.

-- Craig

I don't know what to think at this point. I'll go out tomorrow to Game Stop and see what they've got in stock.

GK Punk

09-21-2005, 02:43 AM

IF it is real, I'd like to get one. I hope it is.

ThirdMarioBro

09-21-2005, 02:55 AM

I hope it is too. I like playing Game Boy games on my SP but I quit because the screen sucked hardcore compared to the DS. That, and I collect the things. I even found one of those Game Boy Lights (the first backlit Game Boy pocket) which are rare even in Japan. Got a Game Girl too.

Kid Icarus

09-21-2005, 12:00 PM

Hm... would it be possible to open up one of those suckers, remove the screen, and transplant it in say... my NES GBASP?

Duke

09-21-2005, 12:06 PM

TMB said the screen was bigger so I'm going with No.

ThirdMarioBro

09-21-2005, 12:56 PM

No no, I said it was bigger than the Micro as in the standard SP is bigger than the Micro. This is has the exact dementions of an SP, just with a new screen.

Same battery as well, so I assume a ransplant would be absoultely possible.

Duke

09-21-2005, 01:02 PM

Kid Icarus

09-21-2005, 01:56 PM

Console modification, here I come.

2 +'s at well... my scren had a blured image, and now it'll be prettier :D

ThirdMarioBro

09-21-2005, 02:28 PM

Yeah, that sounds so unique I might just do it too :D

ThirdMarioBro

09-21-2005, 08:24 PM

It's real. Though AMN beat IGN by an entire day, they finally got to it :roll: ;) . I also checked at Gamestop today and they have them in stock.

http://media.gameboy.ign.com/articles/652/652641/img_3086334.html

These things are badass to an extreme. Oh, and I repeat, they're REAL.

GK Punk

09-21-2005, 08:24 PM

I went to EB Games today, and they haven't heard of it yet. I looked at Bestbuy and Walmart for one, nothin' :|

I still want a Pink DS and SP. Pink is awesome.

ThirdMarioBro

09-21-2005, 09:08 PM

Well, I can almost promise you that Nintendo will never release the pink SP or Pink DS in the states simply because the general American public are dicks and treat anything Pink as though it's girly. Fu*k them. *ahem* Anyways...

Pink SP
http://www.ncsxshop.com/cgi-bin/shop/AGS-S-PPA.html

Pink DS
http://www.ncsxshop.com/cgi-bin/shop/NTR-S-PPWA.html

Importing is the only way you'll ever see it in the US, period. Region codes are not a problem and you can switch the system text over to English in the options menu.

GK Punk

09-21-2005, 09:13 PM

Was planning on doing that anyway ;)

That's a pretty trustworthy site? I was thinking of maybe ebaying it.

愛

09-21-2005, 09:31 PM

You can always try YesAsia. They have the pink DS's and stuff.

ThirdMarioBro

09-21-2005, 09:36 PM

CORRECTION!!!

Peanut found this. I was wrong.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/09/21/news_6134085.html

Pink DS comming to the US. I've been pwned.

GK Punk

09-21-2005, 09:42 PM

Dude, yes Asia and NCSX Charge way too damn much for an SP!! Anyone ever use PlayAsia? They're prices are ALOT more reasonable!

...And I'm going to see if I can afford a Pink DS in October, but I doubt it.

Kid Icarus

09-21-2005, 09:49 PM

With an uber Nintendogs, no less.

Good move, Nintendo, good move.

愛

09-21-2005, 09:49 PM

I just have the original silver DS. I don't need some homo color. :lol: I'll take the Kirby stylus, though.

GK Punk

09-21-2005, 09:53 PM

Bah, Pink was originally the boys color anyway :P

I think it's kinda lame to say certain colors are only for certain genders.

愛

09-21-2005, 10:01 PM

Never said that. Pink just isn't my style. It's cool that you like it, though. Roll out with the pink! :lol:

GK Punk

09-21-2005, 10:04 PM

Oh, that wasn't at you dude. I was just stating a general gripe ;)
Girls love guys that like Pink. It's true.

Kid Icarus

09-21-2005, 11:15 PM

Speaking about the stylus... my odrer says it got delivered. TRIP TO MY MOMS TOMMROW OMFGWTFBBQ!?!.

heh, in a side note, totally unrelated, I need to update my mailing info like, everywhere :lol:

愛

09-21-2005, 11:27 PM

Did you get an email about it? I think I ordered mine about the same time, unless you delayed mentioning it on the Drome...

ThirdMarioBro

09-22-2005, 12:32 AM

I never checked. It should be here soon.

Krang

09-22-2005, 01:46 AM

I have an imported Graphite Black DS. As far as I know, that color still hasn't been released in the US.

Dude, yes Asia and NCSX Charge way too damn much for an SP!! Anyone ever use PlayAsia? They're prices are ALOT more reasonable!Yes, Play-Asia is where I order all my Pop'n Music games from. They have always been reliable and their prices are pretty good, so I recommend them.

GK Punk

09-22-2005, 01:59 AM

excellent... I'm glad to hear that, 'cause ever since my friend got a Pink GBA SP, I've been in love with them. it's such a great color. It kind of color changes depending on the lighting.

Peanut

09-22-2005, 02:07 AM

I just recently ordered a Pink DS for my girlfriend (including the NA adapter) only to discover that they're releasing one in North America, pre-packaged with Nintendogs (the game she wants). I'm just about ready to kill myself and take Nintendo Headquarters down with me.

Dinny

09-22-2005, 11:14 AM

The wireless at the hotel would never deliver unto me the full teaser video, so until we got back I was never able to see how far the thinking had gotten over there. They had, as I suggested, earned a little bit of optimism from me by making the DS - which I thought of as Exhibit A in Nintendo vs. Sanity - something I've come to consider kind of necessary. So looking at the video made me see that they were already thinking about what you could do with two positional controllers at the very least. The counterexample I keep hearing about the peripheral has to do with third parties, and how scary the controller is, but for a couple generations now their systems have been (at least, outside of Japan) a kind of dedicated shrine to their own games, games that shame the rest of the industry with their polish, their palette, and their playability. They forge unique deals with companies like Capcom and SquareEnix to bring sometimes extraordinary exclusive content. I can live with that.

There were initial cries and lamentations regarding the announcement, but I think we need to just accept the fact that they are no longer playing the linear game their competitors are. The control looks like a remote, yes, but we've talked about this before - playing games with pens, drums, and now remote controls draws the artifacts of ordinary life into the increasingly byzantine realm of electronic entertainment. Excuse me, I forgot. It's not innovation unless it involves another texture pass.

Seems as though Tycho does like the controller.