does mikey look wired???

[FreshRazz]

I dunno if anyone elese has said this but does this picture make mikey look somewhat bluer than the rest of em...?http://www.ninjaturtles.com/cartoon/2003/colortmnt.jpg

[Greed]

No mikey looks like a turtle smurf

[Nickokapo]

Mikey looks like he's dark green...but that's ok, i'm used to that, i had a donnie action figure and he was kinda brown :P

[Greed]

Don the Herm figs are usually brown

[Nickokapo]

:sweatdro: he's not a herm!And i'm guessing he was brown because that's how he was in the comics or something (remember tmnt the hyperstone heist, well in that game it lets you switch colors between comic and cartoon, and i think comic don is brown like the figure)

[Greed]

Don is an asexual herm

[Nickokapo]

Asexual?Maybe...
Herm?NONONONO :P
He looked cool in brown tho.

[Greed]

nick you don't have to be in denial

[Nickokapo]

Yes, i don't have too, i choose too :P and i suggest we leave this as it's in another thread already

[Greed]

otay

[BigThew]

mikey looks fine

if you look at the series 1 figures, you can see that
mikey has a darker green,
raph is a lighter green,
don is a brownish grey,
and leo is just green

[Nickokapo]

:D yeah they're kinda like the action figures...i'm just not used to seeing em like that in the toon but i'll get used to it :)

[azure turtle]

Yea... Mike's skin color stands out more than the others. I can tell that they're all different shades of green, but he seems to really stick out. :roll:

[Skeletoncrew]

Mike also looks bigger than everyone else in that picture.

(BTW, I don't know if the person who started this list meant "wired" or "wierd", I voted yes because I do think he looks like he's a had a bit much caffeine.)

[Karpo_007]

Yeah Mike looks too crazy. All the other profiles are pretty much original, but True Mike is not a "Party dude". He is open minded and artistic but the new Mike looks too crazy. Hopefully it's only the looks.

[FreshRazz]

Please god be kind to Mikey and his adventures in the futures.
Alsoin that pic he does look bigger, kinda don't mess with me or ill mess u, sorta bigger. (thats jibberish for he looks tougher).

[FreshRazz]

And leave donny alone he is a chilla!

[Raphael]

Mike also looks bigger than everyone else in that picture.

(BTW, I don't know if the person who started this list meant "wired" or "wierd", I voted yes because I do think he looks like he's a had a bit much caffeine.)Yeah, but in that pic Mikey is the only one who's actually standing up straight. The others have their heads somewhat lowered, especially Raph who looks ready to pop. :P

[heretic888]

I agree with Karpo. Mike looks a little too much like his old cartoon personality. Hopefully, they will make him more like his 'true' comic self.

[Karpo_007]

Lets' hope so.

[HorseTechie]

:lol: I was wondering if that was wired or wierd too. But either way, Mike looks like both!

I don't think his color looks bad though. Maybe that's your monitor setting making him look more blue than green. :wink:

As you see here, Mike's color is similar to Raph's (and both have that wicked insane grin)...

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/cartoon/2003/guide_mike.jpghttp://www.ninjaturtles.com/cartoon/2003/guide_raph.jpg

[Cherubae]

Or maybe he ment to type "weird" :evilgrin:

If the latest pic is to scale and Michelangelo is bigger then the rest, then Raphael would be the shortest. I hope he doesnt develop "penis-envy" and have a total hissyfit because he's trying to be taller then he actually is.

*imagines Raph wearing platform shoes*


- Cher

[Shellfox]

Well if he is shorter then there'd be one more comparision to Wolverine

[Skeletoncrew]

I'm cool with Mike's color, though the insane facial expression does worry me.

Mmmm...look at those nice abdomens though...sexy turtles! :evilgrin:

"Wierd" "weird" its all the same when you're up too late. :goofygri:

[azure turtle]

Heh... Mikey does look a bit demented, doesn't he? I hope he's not like that in the cartoon. :goofygri:

[Karpo_007]

Yeah. well thos are just scketches. I doubt they will totally change his character.

[Jephael]

You know, Michaelangelo was pretty tame in the Archie comics, and he even went through some trauma that made him mature somewhat (i.e. the whole "Blindsight" plot) so I'm hoping they go with that personality in the new show.

[heretic888]

blindsight was a wicked cool story arch. i loved it later on when mike, who was blind, dove in the ocean to help save the doctor who was torturing him minutes before. thats balls.

[Shellfox]

to bad we never really say much of him after that, just what 4 or 5 comics in that time with him having role, and they were mostly Raph and Ninjara, or am I forgeting some

[heretic888]

dude took a damn molotov cocktail to the face, and he survived....

[Jephael]

I only wish the Mutanimals could've survived that easily.

[FreshRazz]

As you see here, Mike's color is similar to Raph's (and both have that wicked insane grin)...

Yeah I guess your right...

[Shellfox]

dude took a damn molotov cocktail to the face, and he survived....
not sure I see your point?

[heretic888]

just sayin is all.......

[Machias Banshee]

blindsight was a wicked cool story arch. i loved it later on when mike, who was blind, dove in the ocean to help save the doctor who was torturing him minutes before. thats balls.


Yes!!! I love that arc. I actually have it here with me. I SO want to get the issues where he first got blinded. I STILL cry when i see all the torture he went through, and being BLIND to boot...no one deserves to go through that. :cry:

to bad we never really say much of him after that, just what 4 or 5 comics in that time with him having role, and they were mostly Raph and Ninjara, or am I forgeting some


hey, dont forget 'The year of the Turtle"....my second favorite part of the archies...well, i thought Splinter looked hot, but that's beside the point.... :goofygri:

[HorseTechie]

heheh... Mike does look like he's bigger than the others in that line up pic too. That, or the scaling is off.

Oh yeah.. Blindsight is also a good one. One of my first good Archies I picked up (even though I have maaaaany more archies to get).

[Shellfox]

Never really sure how Year of the Turtle fit in to the series. Always kinda figured it was a stand alone with no real bearing on the what Archie had done before it. I mean they never explained how Shredder got back or where his hench people came from

[Machias Banshee]

Made me sad that they never really finished it either....the last i saw of it was when Splinter (in his human form) wsas telling the remutated (and young-minded) Michelangelo the story of what had happened, and then went out to talk to the others, and showed them his arms that were slowly turning back to the former Rat form.... :(

[Deepflame]

Mike looks mad... and thats wrong, methinks.

[azure turtle]

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?? If ya ask me, he looks a little bit of both... :eek:

[prowler4]

I think he does, but in the pics I've seen of him, he looks more stoned. :D

[MzTheInsomniac]

why does it seem in all the pics they release of mike he has his tongue out?

[FreshRazz]

No mikey looks like a turtle smurf

There can only be one Smurf Turtle eh Azure Turtle?

[Nickokapo]

why does it seem in all the pics they release of mike he has his tongue out?
Maybe he's thirsty? :D

[azure turtle]

There can only be one Smurf Turtle eh Azure Turtle?
Hey! I resemble that remark! :razz:

Maybe he's thirsty? :D
Nicko's right. Someone give Mikey a Dr. Pepper!

[FreshRazz]

*Throws a Dr. Pepper*
Enjoy Mikey:P

[Greed]

But he still has his tongue out

[MzTheInsomniac]

im worried that he will become a party dude

[heretic888]

yeah, no one wants that to happen again.....

[Tokka-B]

except for me, sorry, but gotta have the comedy or it won't be complete...

And Mike is like that because he loves getting attention and being the odd one out, heh.

MIKE IS #1 :D

[heretic888]

And Mike is like that because he loves getting attention and being the odd one out, heh.

Actually, he was made that way so he would be popular with the kids and they would bitch at their parents to buy toys so the producers and networks could make lots and lots of money. In his true character, he has hardly an extrovert or an attention-grabber.

[Karpo_007]

Well He was in issue #9. But then again, It was a pre-teenage story.

[Tokka-B]

Exactly what I said heretic, he was made that way for popularity, and he got my popularity! :wink:

[MzTheInsomniac]

i like donny cuz no one likes him

[Nickokapo]

and i don't like mike because everyone likes him...well i just don't like him :dead:
And i like don!He might not be my fave turtle but i like him more than mike, and he has the bo :evilgrin:
I hope mike doesn't go around with the tongue out in the whole cartoon, he'd look stupid.

[Greed]

Yeah unless he is a mental case I don't want to see it either

[Tokka-B]

Are you dumb? Mikey has never gone through a show with his tongue out like that, those pics are just illustrating the turtle's personality for the younger generation that wants to get into it. They even said Mike will show his true athletics in the new show, which is great! Liking Don cause no one likes him isn't much of a reason at all. I don't see where you get how Mike is the most popular when I am like the only one who likes him the best in this whole site! Don't just say things without thinking them through, you have to show evidence of some sort. :wink:

[Greed]

Who you callin DumB

[Nickokapo]

You're calling me dumb now? :sweatdro:
No i'm not :tgrumble: and the reason why i've said that is because most of the pics i've seen of him in the new show has him with the tongue out.
And i agree liking don because noone else doesn't is a kinda dumb reason, but it's a valid reason nonetheless, and yes, i do like don, just not as much as the other turtles.

[Tokka-B]

I never said I didn't like Don, He is probly my third best, and I actually have a reason too. Because he makes really cool machines for the turtles! Ok, and I didn't call any one person dumb...just the 3 of you seemed to think that Mike was all joke and stupid. :tanime:

[Nickokapo]

Well i was just saying it *would* look stupid if mikey would stick his tongue out every fricking episode, but i'm not saying that could happen, since they will base it in the mirage comics they will make mike more serious...i hope.
And well, in the old toon he did seemed to be all 'joke and stupid' :ohwell: that might be why i like him the least.
And don...i dunno why i like him, perhaps just for the reason he uses the bo, but i like his personality aswell..

[Tokka-B]

Nunchucks own bo's... :wink:
Even in the old show he wasn't all joke, besides I liked him that way :P

[R-iZZy]

nah... mikey really was alll jokes, and the bo kicks major shell!!! I love that bo. I'm still a little heated off the cancellation of the CGI project (even though that's old old old news). I DLed that 5 minute clip for nothing!!!

But anyway, that bo has to be the best weapon (and the most powerful in the first NES game). The nunchuks are cool to flaunt around with and show off how well coordinated you are with them. But a bo is what gets the job done.

[R-iZZy]

what also makes it better is that don has the brains to use his bo as calculative as he can. Mike is more of a free-spirit and spontaneous in a way. Who knows what stuff he does with a nunchuk when he's not thinking.

[Nickokapo]

So i'm not the only one who thinks bos own nunchuks and mike was all jokes... ;)
Well the bo thing is more of a personal opinion than anything...but face it, mike was always joking in the old toon and at some point it got annoying.
BTW I'm not saying mike's worst or anything, i'm just pointing out the reasons why i like him the least, so don't take it as a personal attack against mike :P
I mean if you did liked mikey's personality then that's fine with me...me, i prefered raph's sense of humor the most :goofygri:

[R-iZZy]

yeah... i know what ur saying. But i truly loved someone him for his uniqueness. everyone else was "let's stay focused and be serious." not many turtles were like that.

there had to be at least one immature one that reached to the kids. i'm not saying that mike is my favorite, because donny will forever be my main turtle! but mikey brought a bit of comedy to the series.

but the bo will still rule over the nunchuks!

[Nickokapo]

Yah, he might annoy me at times, but the toon wouldn't be the same without him :)
And i'll admit he did had some funny lines now and then...but my fave turtle will always be raph...then don, then leo, then mike :P
And yes, nothing can beat the power of the mighty wood stick called bo :D

[heretic888]

Are you dumb? Mikey has never gone through a show with his tongue out like that, those pics are just illustrating the turtle's personality for the younger generation that wants to get into it. They even said Mike will show his true athletics in the new show, which is great!

I sincerely hope you are right. I really do hope those images are just caricatures or exaggerations of the characters' personalities (such as Mike's 'free spirit' and 'pure heart'). I do hope they portray Mike's full physical prowess, because he is probably the most talented warrior of the bunch......

Well i was just saying it *would* look stupid if mikey would stick his tongue out every fricking episode, but i'm not saying that could happen, since they will base it in the mirage comics they will make mike more serious...i hope.


Ditto.

And well, in the old toon he did seemed to be all 'joke and stupid' that might be why i like him the least.

Yes, the old cartoon series truly did butcher Mike's character.....

Nunchucks own bo's...

No, not necessarily.....

nah... mikey really was alll jokes

I'd have to agree with that one. The Mike of the old cartoon had absolutely no depth or richness as a character. Then again..... none of them did, they were all cliched stereotypes. But, at least Leo and Don were somewhat true to their comic book personalities......

But anyway, that bo has to be the best weapon (and the most powerful in the first NES game). The nunchuks are cool to flaunt around with and show off how well coordinated you are with them. But a bo is what gets the job done.

Just because Donatello had the strongest normal attack in the original tmnt video game does NOT mean the bo staff is superior to the other weapons. Remember, it was a video game. You seem to think the weapon matters here, when it is the person using the weapon that matters. Any weapon is only as impressive as the person wielding it.

In actuality, however, the nunchaku is probably superior to the bo staff in most occasions. The chucks are lighter, more compact/concealable, and they are far more flexible (making it more adaptable to the movements of an opponent). The most obvious advantage however, is the chain-propelled momentum of the chucks. They can cause far more damage in a less amount of space than a bo staff can.

The bo staff's only real advantage over the nunchakus are superior length, and it is easier to use and master. Of course, a kusari-fundo or manriki-gusari is even better than the chucks.....

what also makes it better is that don has the brains to use his bo as calculative as he can. Mike is more of a free-spirit and spontaneous in a way. Who knows what stuff he does with a nunchuk when he's not thinking.

Actually, Mike's 'no mind' (mushin in Japanese), flowing, free, spontaneous movements would make him a far BETTER warrior than Donatello, chucks or not. Survival in the street or field is about flow and adaptation, NOT 'form' and 'calculation'. The 'brains' that you speak of would be a hindrance to self-protection in most cases.....

So i'm not the only one who thinks bos own nunchuks and mike was all jokes...
Well the bo thing is more of a personal opinion than anything...but face it, mike was always joking in the old toon and at some point it got annoying.

Oh yes, I agree. Even though Mike was my favorite character in the toon, upon retrospection I do find some of his antics quite annoying.....

[Anarchistguy]

[quote]Are you dumb? Mikey has never gone through a show with his tongue out like that, those pics are just illustrating the turtle's personality for the younger generation that wants to get into it. They even said Mike will show his true athletics in the new show, which is great!

I sincerely hope you are right. I really do hope those images are just caricatures or exaggerations of the characters' personalities (such as Mike's 'free spirit' and 'pure heart'). I do hope they portray Mike's full physical prowess, because he is probably the most talented warrior of the bunch......

Well i was just saying it *would* look stupid if mikey would stick his tongue out every fricking episode, but i'm not saying that could happen, since they will base it in the mirage comics they will make mike more serious...i hope.


Ditto.

And well, in the old toon he did seemed to be all 'joke and stupid' that might be why i like him the least.


Yes, the old cartoon series truly did butcher* Mike's character.....


* Bastardized is more like it.

[Karpo_007]

Yeah, well that was the 80's and this is the 00's :wink: So maybe mankind has evolved since then.

[Tokka-B]

Ok, just gotta point out...I meant if Mike used nunchucks against Don's Bo, Mike would win, he is so much stronger and he seriously knows how to use his weapon in battle.....only few times he is clumsy......A wonder why they took out the nunchucks, they were too powerful, hah!

Yea, and that was a video game, they made the bo the strongest weapon easily, only because of its length...sheesh I hope they make a new game where there is a fight mode, I will own you with Mike.... :P :P :P

[Karpo_007]

In real Life, Strongest weapon has to be katanas. Or maybe Sai's but Katanas have more range.

[heretic888]

Ok, just gotta point out...I meant if Mike used nunchucks against Don's Bo, Mike would win, he is so much stronger and he seriously knows how to use his weapon in battle.....only few times he is clumsy

Although Mike is physically stronger than Don, what would be the real test of power would be who has greater flowing taijutsu natural movement (that's what lets little Asian dudes send muscular guys flying with a two inch punch), and sorry, Mike has Donny beat. Mike also has greater adaptive flow and his mind is closer to 'no mind', a serious advantage in battle.

A wonder why they took out the nunchucks, they were too powerful, hah!


Because parents deemed them to be 'too violent'.

Yea, and that was a video game, they made the bo the strongest weapon easily, only because of its length...sheesh I hope they make a new game where there is a fight mode, I will own you with Mike....

Yeah, we'll see about that.....

In real Life, Strongest weapon has to be katanas. Or maybe Sai's but Katanas have more range.

Hmmm..... it depends on how much force is behind the attacks. Honestly, the katana has the most POTENTIAL to do damage if there is some real good taijutsu driving it. The nunchakus are far more flexible and adaptive weapons however, and were mostly designed to easily disarm a swordsman. The sai is nowhere near as powerful as either, but it is also a good anti-sword or anti-staff weapon.

[Karpo_007]

Well Leo has Skill in using Katana's, and can probably take a foot soldier with them than Mike with nunchakus. Well Of course it also Depends on opponents weapon of choise and the situation...

[heretic888]

Mike probably has greater physical ability than Leo does, but considering the nunchaku was meant to defeat the sword he would have a serious tactical advantage regardless.......

[Karpo_007]

Stillin comics you see Leo Finishing more foot than Mike. Of course it depends on writers etc. It's kind of neat to see Mike strangle a Foot soldier with his nunchaku.

[heretic888]

doesnt Mike take on 3 foot at once that had him surrounded..... and dodge all of them like it's breathing?? one even tried to suprise him... didnt work though.

and didnt Mike, who was injured.... managed to beat up quite a bunch of gunmen when they were transported to that other planet??

of course, it really depends on the writer.... and mike is often writers' least favorite character and gets on the brunt of a lot of battles.

[Karpo_007]

Yeah. Still I usually don't wonder who fights the best or takes out more foot, It all depends on writers.

[Tokka-B]

Yea, I agree....but it also dpends on the turtle's mood.....if Mike is like "awww do we HAVE to...I want pizza" then he probably won't fight as well...

Perfect example is in Leonardo lightens up, that was funny seeing Leonardo acting all goofy for once... and because of that, he wasn't in the mood, and Splinter "outskated" him, LOL...still have that episode.. :o

[Karpo_007]

Did you really think we talked about the cartoon? In it after the first season, none of the turtles could fight..

[Anarchistguy]

DAMN RIGHT

[Greed]

stupid non-fighting ninja turtles

[MzTheInsomniac]

they wouldn't use their weapons and they didnt even ninja kick

[Karpo_007]

Yeah it's a shame they didn't keep it like the first season...

[Tokka-B]

Don't you realize that there are parents out there, that have moronic beliefs such as if the ninja turtles have weapons then their kids will have weapons? It's as if you thought that they could get away with fighting on a kids show...not as long as parents live.. So I really don't get why you think that the new show will be any different from non-fighting....especially in todays world with so much more precautions and lawsuits...sheesh! A comic book is a hard way to display violence anyway, all you see is hai-ya and POW! So when I bring insite to the cartoon, I knew you guys were talking about the comic....except in a cartoon you can actually see them fight....

Think before you type man..... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Karpo_007]

Parent arent as bad as they were back then. Interviews have confirmed there will be fighting. Do your homework beofre you type.

[R-iZZy]

:tlol: ouch :lol:

[Nickokapo]

:P guys, you're being a little too harsh to each other (Not that i'd mind, it's slightly entertaining, but i wouldn't like a flame war to start :goofygri: )
And i'm glad there'll be at least some violence, a dumbed down cartoon wouldn't be as fun :ohwell:

[HorseTechie]

Yah... or fear the wrath of ten million mods jumping on your arse! :evilgrin:

But what occured to me the other day, was that the 90's was just full of politically correct themes. Like recycling, peace not war, save the whales, save the ozone, feed the hungry, help the poor, etc. So the parents were prolly more sensitive about violence thent oo.

Nowadays, they seem to have lightened up on the cartoons shows. Instead they are going after the video games and chat rooms on the internet! That's another reason why I'm not worried about the new TMNT show, or why they're letting the producers get away with chuks and stuff agian.

[R-iZZy]

so very true

[Tokka-B]

yea, those 90's issues sound fairly accurate, you know why, because we had a democratic president thank god...lol.....now those political issues have no meaning and were back to violence, pollution, and all those other great things.. :roll: :roll: sorry to bring up politics in a topic like this.... :oops:


Karpo, do you make your interviews up, come on, show me some, I can't believe just your word...
:wink:

[Anarchistguy]

Tokka, Just check www.geocities.com/newtmnt,then click on cartoon and then interview. You'll see Karpo's right

[Karpo_007]

Now that the show has been poduced for a while, Maybe it's time for another interview?

[Sparvid]

If you don't want your kids to see any violence, then don't let them see a show about four ninja turtles!

[Tokka-B]

I think the whole problem here is the one freaky factor that warps peoples minds: MONEY!! :o :o

This is because I believe Mirage and 4kids or whoever claims rights to the show and movies thinks that there isn't much of a market for the older/more mature audience. They obviously made TMNT purely for kids, otherwise they would rate their movies higher, had more violence in the cartoon, and not have their shows on at Saturday mornings... Another thing, please don't reply and say "Oh, but the comics were violent blah blah blah, I am talking purely about the cartoons and movies here.

Also, I doubt they thought an older audience would go out and buy action figures for themselves, but then again, I love action figures and would still buy them when I get in my 20s...but that is only a sole few of us....most of the market they think is in kids, which is probably true, and I am glad, cause they wouldn't have had the money to make a new show without that strategy or thinking in mind...

Ah well... :sleep:

[Karpo_007]

It is possible to make show for all ages. Like Batman TAS or Justice League. It has been confirmed that the TMNT will fight living oponents in the new cartoon. But it is true that we probably wont ever see a movie or tv series comletely true to the original TMNT. That would narrow the audience too much.

But times have changed, nowdays there can be much more violence in a cartoon than in the 80's. Of course there wont be graphical deaths or blood, But there wil be real fights and a real plot. Both wich the old show lacked. That is why I totally trust that this new show will be a good one.

[Tokka-B]

It probably is true that there acn be more violence now, but who are you to blame when Mirage gets sued by an idiotic parent...? :wink:

[Karpo_007]

Probably not... But hey, I heard that some fat guy sued Mcdonalds for taking away his health! Anything can happen in the U.S.A!

[Jephael]

I can just picture it now - some whiny woman bitches that her 7 year old hit his little sister in the eye with a plastic katana while playing TMNT and the entire neighborhod wants to ban the series for similar situations. :tmad: It was even this way with the low-key violence of the old show!

[Karpo_007]

Yeah I read that article... And it was about the old show! Well Todays paren'ts are much more concerned about sex than violence. I heard that American Pie was rated PG-17 in the states...

[Kali]

They act as if cartoons are the sole reason there is violence in the world. As if before cartoons came along the world was happy and peaceful. :roll:

[Karpo_007]

Yeah... Well I have a feeling that we won't be seeing the True nature of TMNT in mass media anytime soon...

[Tokka-B]

LOL, true, only if they rate it like M for mature.. I can see the description:
Rated M for true ninja fighting and real weapons....Argh, sometimes I wish I lived in Finland...LOL

[Karpo_007]

Well I wish I lived in states... I could see the New show from TV, and wouldn't have to worrie about who is going to encode it...

[Tokka-B]

That might be the only reason you'd want to live here.... :o :oops:

[Karpo_007]

Well It can't be that bad, Can it?

[Tokka-B]

In America, anything.... :( :oops:

[heretic888]

to each his or her own, but the major advantage of living in the United States is there is more political, artistic, and economic OPPORTUNITY here than anywhere else in the world. some people fail to acknowledge that there are Christian fundamentalists EVERYWHERE, not just America....

[Tokka-B]

What is it with you and the christian bashing? :x :evil:

[MzTheInsomniac]

don't let this turn into a religous battle now

[Mike]

I know I hold no authority here, so I'll ask you: please do not make fun of Christians or bash them. I am one, and proud of it, but I'm not cramming my beliefs down your throat, so don't cram yours down mine.

[Tokka-B]

Thank you, even though I am not Christian, I get very affected by erligious bashers in general... :evil:

[heretic888]

I don't mean to 'bash' Christianity here, but I was merely commenting on the fact that those 'conservative sanctions' and censors you rant about come from the 'concerns' of Christian fundamentalists. And it is hardly unique to the United States.

[HorseTechie]

Yah.. that is true, that America does built it's belief on God. Or well, it had *cries a sad tear for the new laws passed*

But yes... let's go easy on the politics of life here. I know we're discussing why there is such a thing as censorship on shows, but I have seen many a time how politcs and short tempers can only lead to another flame war.

All the same, I think we beat this dead horse long enough. Yes, life is unfari, but yet we have to live with it. *pulls out lock and key*