Spider-Man: The Other

[Rikirk]

Ok..granted...

I have not picked up a Spiderman title in a while and Im a little behind the times story wise...but they are messing with my favorite superhero again.

Look..!

http://www.marvel.com/publishing/stories/showstory.htm?id=67

Iron Spiderman?

I like the idea of Spidey and Ironman being friends and all that, and even that Tony Stark made Spidey a new suit...but Yellow?!! Spideys colors are red and blue!...ok,ok..I liked the idea when Spidey got a Black costume in the past..but that was black.

I dunno...the design is nice, the angular spider motif is very cool...but i cant get past the yellow.

Hopefully the colors wont be permanent.

Thanks for letting me rant.:evil:

[ZariusTwo]

Ok..granted...

I have not picked up a Spiderman title in a while and Im a little behind the times story wise...but they are messing with my favorite superhero again.

Look..!

http://www.marvel.com/publishing/stories/showstory.htm?id=67

Iron Spiderman?

I like the idea of Spidey and Ironman being friends and all that, and even that Tony Stark made Spidey a new suit...but Yellow?!! Spideys colors are red and blue!...ok,ok..I liked the idea when Spidey got a Black costume in the past..but that was black.

I dunno...the design is nice, the angular spider motif is very cool...but i cant get past the yellow.

Hopefully the colors wont be permanent.


They never are.

This "Other" storyline is retarded, giving Spidy actual skin shedding spider powers, blech, razor sharp spears from his arms, what is he? The Guyver?

Apparently, Iron Man and Spidy are going to have a little break up during this "Cival War" arc, I'd love to see a badass Tony Stark and Spidy battle, but only if Pete ditches that gay swaying coustume

[FireFly]

.........well it's better then armored captain america


i like the desigh of it but the yellow needs to go maybe after the Civil War arc spidey changes the color back to classic red and blue with white eyes

[Anarky]

Talking about Spider-man, "The other" and assorted Spidey-related crap by Marvel: Has he lost an eye or hasn't he?

[ZariusTwo]

Talking about Spider-man, "The other" and assorted Spidey-related crap by Marvel: Has he lost an eye or hasn't he?


Its' a little complicated. Yes and no.

After losing his eye, he died protecting MJ from Morlun in hospita, shed his skin, emerged from a cocoon reborn, and now has new powers.

[Fledermaus]

Its' a little complicated. Yes and no.

After losing his eye, he died protecting MJ from Morlun in hospita, shed his skin, emerged from a cocoon reborn, and now has new powers.

Oh dear God... :roll:

*sigh* So, what now? Can he finally communicate with spiders, or does he have some magical totem spider spirit to aide him if he prays to it in the middle of battle?

EDIT: (reads Zarius's earlier post) Ugh.... Great. Now he can suffocate his enemies with the many layers of skin he can shed. What, does he spurt webbing from his butt now, too?

Oh yeah, and that suit sucks. I take that back. It's lame. Okay, I think it's safe to agree that it is no improvement whatsoever over the old design. If it's not an improvement, if it adds nothing, they shouldn't screw with it.

Hey, guess what everybody? It's Friday the 13th.

Edit, again. (reads about THE OTHER storyarc at Spider-Man forum).

JMS must die.

[Raven]

Its bad enough JMS ruined Gwen Stacy with that one story line, now he has to go and do it to spiderman!

The suit isnt all that bad...it just needs some tweeky, it looks to dark for Peter, it dosent fit his personality.

He's easy going, not a vigalante.

I am how ever looking foward to the civil war story, sound a tad bit intersting.

[ZariusTwo]

Its bad enough JMS ruined Gwen Stacy with that one story line, now he has to go and do it to spiderman!

The suit isnt all that bad...it just needs some tweeky, it looks to dark for Peter, it dosent fit his personality.

He's easy going, not a vigalante.

I am how ever looking foward to the civil war story, sound a tad bit intersting.

Both "Sins Past" and "The Other" are direct orders from Quesda and the marvel brass, JMS and Peter David are only following orders.

[Anarky]

Okay, my brother and I, we have been playing around with the new Spidey-Design, and this is what we came up with. We took the new suit/armor back to the classical colours. Just to give you an impression of what it could look like.

http://img311.imageshack.us/img311/2217/spidermanedits4fb.th.jpg (http://img311.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanedits4fb.jpg)

[ZariusTwo]

Okay, my brother and I, we have been playing around with the new Spidey-Design, and this is what we came up with. We took the new suit/armor back to the classical colours. Just to give you an impression of what it could look like.

http://img311.imageshack.us/img311/2217/spidermanedits4fb.th.jpg (http://img311.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanedits4fb.jpg)


Second one looks like the revenge of Ben Reily, third the rise of Miguel O'Hara

[Rikirk]

Your last one looks great Anarky, Edit #2 the red spider on the blue suit.
And I do agree with Zarius...shades of Spiderman 2099 all over again.

Im a bit of a big time Venom fan...someone care to elaborate how that image would look with a blueish suit and white spider motif?...:D

[Turtle Dove]

Ok..granted...

I have not picked up a Spiderman title in a while and Im a little behind the times story wise...but they are messing with my favorite superhero again.

Look..!

http://www.marvel.com/publishing/stories/showstory.htm?id=67

Iron Spiderman?

I like the idea of Spidey and Ironman being friends and all that, and even that Tony Stark made Spidey a new suit...but Yellow?!! Spideys colors are red and blue!...ok,ok..I liked the idea when Spidey got a Black costume in the past..but that was black.

I dunno...the design is nice, the angular spider motif is very cool...but i cant get past the yellow.

Hopefully the colors wont be permanent.

Thanks for letting me rant.:evil:

WAY too much yellow!! Any villian will ses Spidy a mile away:lol:

[Anarky]

Venom? Sure...

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2333/lrgironspideyvenom4hu.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lrgironspideyvenom4hu.jpg)

[Jo Dawn]

Its' a little complicated. Yes and no.

After losing his eye, he died protecting MJ from Morlun in hospita, shed his skin, emerged from a cocoon reborn, and now has new powers.

Hahahaha....














.... Oh, wait... You're serious.

[Anarky]

Hahahaha....

.... Oh, wait... You're serious.


You're laughing? I was in tears... really. I mean, that's our Spidey they're messing with, the one we loved for all our lives.

I think Spider-Man died for me tonight...

[Jo Dawn]

I laughed because I thought it was a joke. :P Twas sarcasm, my dear. ;)

[Raph's Girl]

Ok a recap of Spiderman

Spidey is just a long line of spider-men. Peter Parker was chosen by the spider that bit him (which was really a magical spider..) to be the next totem spider-person (I say person because of Arana, Spider-girl, and Spider-Woman).

Arana is a member of the Spider Society. A group of Spider people which started in Spain in 1099.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spider_Society

Well each of the spider-people have to shed their skin at least once in their lifetime. Spidey's shedding of his skin has been building up for a while but Peter has been ignoring it.

So Spiderman DID die. But he went into a cacoon type thing and whala...he not only got his eye back but more powers and an ugly arse suit courtasy of Tony Stark (Yellow?! Oh come fraken on!).

So the old spiderman died, but a new one was reborn.

As for Morlun...well he's apperantly been hunting totem people for a while (he was a totem eater) But thankfully the spider in peter woke up and killed Morlun.

As for Spidey being able to talk to spiders. Uh...he was already able to talk to insects and arachnids before the Other storyline. :P

[FireFly]

ararky I like your edits (edit one and venom alot) ii hope the colors really do change


and the other was a good read (jms not so much)and the fact they talked about who do after peters death(and him killing morlun)was some of the better spidey story telling in 05 my two cents
EDIT a new picture it looks better then the first one
http://comicsnewsi.net/g/?mode=view&album=Marvel%2FIron_Spidey&pic=SpideyCostume.jpg&dispsize=800&start=0

[Fledermaus]

Both "Sins Past" and "The Other" are direct orders from Quesda and the marvel brass, JMS and Peter David are only following orders.

Really... I thought the whole Totemistic theme was JMS's idea. Whatever. I'm still pissed by it all. And I still don't like JMS's writing style.

Actually, come to think of it -- I don't think it was all Joe. Remember years back Peter David's Spider-Man 2099? Spidey had poisonous stingers on his arms, similar to what he has now? That, plus JMS's general fascination with spider gods and primal totemistic Dr. Strange-world themes equals raping of one of the coolest superheroes of all time.

I like how you brought back the original colors, Anarky. But I think the fundamental flaw is in the design of the new suit, itself. We've basically already seen this motif/these proportions in Ben Reilly THE CLONE's outfit. (Though frankly, even that looked better than this.) EDIT: that venom color motif is great! Works better with the design than any of the other colors!

Who knows. Maybe they'll come to their senses, retcon this magical interlude and actually have Spidey y'know stop robberies and petty criminals and earthly, tangible criminals. All this intergalactic/dimensional/astral plane refuse just doesn't fit him. He's like the one superhero who from the beginning was not the big flashy hotshot; Spider-Man was the everyman fighting everyday battles, which are just as important in their way as the big, ultimate ones. It was random chance that gave him his abilities -- now, the fact that he's spider-man is due to some ongoing predestined totemistic ritual... ugh.

What a lousy Friday the 13th... *Grabs can of prickly pair juice and downs it vigorously...*

[ZariusTwo]

Really... I thought the whole Totemistic theme was JMS's idea. Whatever. I'm still pissed by it all. And I still don't like JMS's writing style.

Oh no, the totem thing WAS JMs' ideas, what Marvel have used The Other to do, (give Spidy a new coustume and powers) is theirs.

And yeah, JMS treats the comic like hed' rather write Doctor Strange, but you have to remember the guys' heavy into mythology and death, when Pete died, I thought for sure hed' be getting a life span of twenty years:lol:

(rep to anyone who gets that one)

[ThirdMarioBro]

Bastards. They've ruined Spiderman. Sons of b*tches.

Is nothing sacred anymore?

Excuse my yelling, but

GODDAMMIT MARVEL!

:cry: :cry: :cry:

[Fledermaus]

http://www.newsarama.com/JoeFridays/JF33art/JQ_V01.jpg

Here's a good pic of the new costume. This version ain't terrible, and I could live with Spidey wearing this for a while, so long as it isn't permanent (like how they decided the black costume wouldn't be permanent).

Still, this doesn't change the fact that they've screwed his character to Hades and beyond.

[Anarky]

If you ask me, it still looks terrible. What issue did Pete die, btw? Or rather, which issues would I have to buy when I wanted to read all that stuff?

[BlueSonnet]

I don't mind the new design but as a permanent basis (which probably won't be the case) i'm not overly chuffed.

Most of the recent Spiderman story has gone over my head though. I'm assuming a lot of the old villians have been killed off (didn't Onslaught enter the spidey universe at some point too?)

[Barkworm]

Doesn't this look almost exactly like the black costume in red?

[Rikirk]

I do not like those spider legs coming out of his back..those have to go! What is with the predaliction for turning him into some half man half spider thing, they did that already with the whole Man Spider arc. Spiderman is not a mutant...hes an enhanced Human, at least i think he is...i dont know metaphysics very well. I believe its some kinda ploy to tap into the whole mutant Xmen slice of the pie. I still like the general design of the costume, but not the colors. In this suit he looks sort of ninja like...maybe they should have made him look like Snake Eyes.

I gotta get back to a comic shop and pick up on the story line...the last issue I remember is where MJ, Peter, Tony Stark and Wolverine were in a skyscraper...Wolverine said something to Peter he really didnt like and Peter punched him out of a window...a short time later Wolvie comes walking back into the room and uttered a funny line I cant for the life of me remember right now. But I remember nearly laughing myself silly when i first read it.

[Mecha Cow]

Well, I like it. Then again, I like costume changes just for the sake of variation. I do feel though that Spidey's costume has been around for too long to be changed now. Like Superman's, it's a classic. Oh well, I doubt it's a permanent thing anyway.

The black costume is still the best in my opinion. Too bad they had to turn it into Venom.

[ZariusTwo]

I don't mind the new design but as a permanent basis (which probably won't be the case) i'm not overly chuffed.

Most of the recent Spiderman story has gone over my head though. I'm assuming a lot of the old villians have been killed off (didn't Onslaught enter the spidey universe at some point too?)

Huh?

Onslaught never left it, everything was set in the same universe, Onslaught is'nt Unicron silly.;)

Everything Onslaught did was retconned, noone is dead, nor ever STAYS dead, except people like Kraven.

[Jester]

anyone else see shades of Spidey: Unlimited in the last picture by Anarky??

[Fledermaus]

anyone else see shades of Spidey: Unlimited in the last picture by Anarky??

Unlimited Spidey:
http://epguides.com/SpidermanUnlimited/cast.jpg

Ben Reilly:
http://www.avencius.nl/archives/www.avencius.nl/archives/2003/images/2003september_benreilly.jpg

Peter David's glorious Spiderman 2099 (complete with poisonous stingers on arms!!):
http://www.ezthemes.com/previews/s/spidy2099.jpg

And then of course, there's venom, which we all know. Since Anarky recolored the costume, it's plain to see how unoriginal the design is.

[Rikirk]

Oh man...I almost forgot about Spiderman unlimited.

There was so much potential for Spidey there...the Nanotech suit, the cloaking device and the sonic blaster for when symbiotes attack...

They really dropped the ball on this one..shame really.

And what was the deal with Venom and Carnage palling around together?...
and dont get me started on that goofy Green Goblin.

Maybe Tony Starks suit has some of those elements built into the armor..like the Cloaking device..*OhPleaseOhPleaseOhPlease..*

[BlueSonnet]

Huh?
Onslaught never left it, everything was set in the same universe, Onslaught is'nt Unicron silly.;)

Damn did i say different universe? A slip of the tongue sorry =P Of course most of the big marvel superheroes, hulk, x-men, spidey etc are in the same boat (which makes crossovers easier). It's just that from what i read up Onslaught was a big bastard out to get everyone and was just wondering if he was ever in the spidey series to give him grief.

As for Spidey, i guess he's nemesises keep coming back. I think Green goblin came back as a cyborg at some point.

Clearly i haven't touched a Marvel comic in years...

[Spitfire]

Eh Spider-man is my favorite comic book hero but I don't know. He's had some pretty lame costumes before. This one isn't so bad. Better then his Cosmic outfit. That just looks stupid in my opinion. Yellow hardly suits him. I think Anarky had the right idea with his edits. But it's all good. Not like Spider-man will look like that in ALL the comics he's drawn in*Isn't it like 5 or more?* and sides they change costumes all the time on heros. If it bombs then it will go back.

[Anarky]

Eh Spider-man is my favorite comic book hero but I don't know. He's had some pretty lame costumes before. This one isn't so bad. Better then his Cosmic outfit. That just looks stupid in my opinion. Yellow hardly suits him. I think Anarky had the right idea with his edits. But it's all good. Not like Spider-man will look like that in ALL the comics he's drawn in*Isn't it like 5 or more?* and sides they change costumes all the time on heros. If it bombs then it will go back.
But still, it will leave a bad taste behind. Like Zap-Superman did. I mean, he looked really cool and had neat powers, but it was Superman we are talking about, you can't just mess with Superman. Even removing his underpants would have to be retconned, because it is Superman. And the same goes for Spider-Man.

[Fledermaus]

Just found this on another forum. The poster well-summed up the essential flaw with this "new direction."

"Why go out of your way to change or try to complicate a character's origin? Why mess with something that wasn't broken in the first place? Thats why people are upset.

Let's just ignore the numerous inconsistencies from JMS for one moment and focus on that. One of the greatest aspects of the Origin story of Spider-man was the fact that it was all an "accident". He didn't have any depressing issues like Bruce Wayne forcing him to be a vigilante and wasn't born into it like Superman. His powers stemmed from a freak accident. He didn't want them.

Why go out of your way to overcomplicate that? I hate this notion that it was all "destiny" and Peter was meant to have his powers and so on. In a sense he was the "chosen" one. That just sounds ridiculous for a character that was meant to always have a "down to earth" tone about him.

Thats the main reason I'm upset with JMS. Its the fact that he seems destined to change one of the main reasons I love the character.

Well, that and the numerous inconsistencies *thumbs down*"

Frankly, I think that Leonardo from the new show has been handled better than Spidey. At least his experience causes actual growth in his character, not only serving to add flava to the series.

[Raph's Girl]

What issue did Pete die, btw? Or rather, which issues would I have to buy when I wanted to read all that stuff?

Spiderman "dies" in Friendly Neighborhood Spiderman issue 3. I of course downloaded it just so I could say "Yea...I have the issue where Spidey dies..."

But then again you could always get Marvel Zombies. Spidey is un-dead in that series. :lol:

[Anarky]

I thought about buying the comics. You know, downloading and all is fun, but I prefer reading my comic books on the toilet, on the bus/train or in my bed. All of which are pretty difficult with downloaded comic books...

Besides, we shouldn't talk about downloading stuff like that anyways.

[Fledermaus]

Here are some recoloring jobs from another forum... I think I like these better than the original. The design is still crapola, but it's nicely drawn. Here, the colors make it even less blasphemous-looking.

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/742/bw3er.jpg

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/5505/black8cn.jpg

The first one is my fav of the two... still, all this change... and for what? :(

[zkarlette]

I think they shoudn't mess with an already well known super hero it just losses his personality , that looks like a bad copy of the Flash costume...

I hope they change their minds somehow I like Anarky's versions better at least that way he would have kept his original colors

[Ra]

.......what the hell?

This version of Spidey isn't so bad compared to some I've seen, but it's still pretty....what's the word? ....oh yeah, screwy

The red and yellow doesn't look so bad in it's final form, but the least they could do was to keep the eyes white. Oi :roll:

Still, even though I'm not really into comics, I hope they won't keep this design. The red and blue tights will always be the classics, in my oppion or the next person's

[Fledermaus]

This isn't precisely about the costume... I just thought these were so stupidly hilarious in subject matter that I should post them.

Spidey inside his cocoon...
http://leoweb.dreamers.com/noticias/mksm21.jpg

Spidey emerging from his cocoon...
http://leoweb.dreamers.com/noticias/asm527.jpg

Is it just me, or does there seem to be some kinda werid fetish a lotta people have with putting humans in fetal positions?:roll: I guess it makes certain people happy...

One thing I WILL say, tho -- Mike Deodato is a great artist -- one of the best ASM has had in a long time; the beautiful work he has done for ASM has been one of the few saving graces for this... you know.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Honestly, I don't give a crap about the comic industry and such anymore. Why? Because they are hell bent on doing stuff like this. THey know the buisness is dying in its current form so they do whack-ass stuff like this to get attention.

Ultimate Spiderman style ruled. This is sh*t and done for the sole purpose of attention....which is about the only thing they're getting. As far as I'm concerned, they ruined him.

[Raph's Girl]

Spidey inside his cocoon...
http://leoweb.dreamers.com/noticias/mksm21.jpg

Spidey emerging from his cocoon...
http://leoweb.dreamers.com/noticias/asm527.jpg


Ok...now where's his butterfly wings??? :lol:

Seriously...since when do spiders come from cacoons??? The closest thing would be an egg sack. :ohwell:

I love the expression when he comes out of his pupae(?). He's looking at his hands like "WTF?! Why am I in this goo?!" :lol:

Im gonna get this comic...just for the nude Peter Parker. *G*

[Raph's Girl]

Check this out...Marvel editor in chief Joe Quesada drew it and it was inked by Richard Isanove.

It's a poster from the Other saga....based on Leonardo Da Vinci's Vetruvian man (which I have as an italian charm on my italian charm bracelet). It's... Vetruvian Spider-man! :lol:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/Dierna/SM_Other_poster.jpg

Ok..now the original Vetruvian man had cryptic words around it...Vetruvian Spidey does as well. Here's the translation. It fits rather well with what we're all feeling.

TOP:
Requiescat in pace - Rest in peace / Acta est fabula - The play is over / Obesa cantavit - The fat lady has sung / Omnia mors aequat - Death equals all things / Mors ultima linea rerum est - Death is everything's final limit / Nil desperandum! - Never despair! / Non omnis moriar - Not all of me will die / Id imperfectum manet dum confectum erit - It ain't over until it's over / Omnia mutantur, nihil interit - Everything changes, nothing perishes / In dentibus anticis frustrum magnum spiniciae habes - You have a big piece of spinach in your front teeth

BOTTOM
Quesada Isavove
Dum spiro, spero - While I breathe, I hope / Natura nihil fit in frustra - Nature does nothing in vain
Respice post te, mortalem te esse memento - Look around you, remember that you are mortal / Aegroto, dum anima est, spes esse dicitur - It is said that for a sick man, there is hope as long as there is life / Dum tempus habemus, operemur bonum - While we have the time, let us do good / Frangar non flectar - I am broken, I am not deflected / Quid quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur - Anything said in Latin sounds profound / Fac ut vivas - Get a life / Quam terribilis est haec hora - How fearful is this hour / A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi - A precipice in front, wolves behind / Perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim - Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you / Forsan miseros meliora sequentur - For those in misery perhaps better things will follow / Non mortem timemus, sed cogitationem mortis - We do not fear death, but the thought of death / Post tenebras lux - After the darkness, light / Nonne de novo eboraco venis? - You're from New York, aren't you? / Raptus regaliter - Royally screwed

My fave portions are:
In dentibus anticis frustrum magnum spiniciae habes - You have a big piece of spinach in your front teeth

Quid quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur - Anything said in Latin sounds profound

Fac ut vivas - Get a life

Nonne de novo eboraco venis? - You're from New York, aren't you?

Raptus regaliter - Royally screwed :lol:

[Anarky]

Talking about editing costumes, I thought it might be a neat idea to see my edits "in action". So here we go.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3972/jqv01edit13be.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jqv01edit13be.jpg) http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/373/jqv01edit28uh.th.jpg (http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jqv01edit28uh.jpg)
Edits 1 and 2.

And to finish it off, the crowdpleasing Venom-edit.
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3382/jqv01edit39wv.th.jpg (http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jqv01edit39wv.jpg)

Note: I didn't change the colours of those atrocious spider-legs, because they're organic and so they are a part of Spidey like his hair or something. And no, I don't like them... at all.

[Raph's Girl]

Ok...I've been thinking.... in the current saga (the Other) the spider within Peter and Tony Stark all state "Once in its lifetime a spider sheds (molts) its skin"

Oh really? Well I know from experience of having pet tarantulas that this sure as shell aint true! Spiders shed or rather molt multiple times!

From Wikipedia:
It enters the larval stage as a prelarva and, through subsequent molts, it reaches its larval form, a spider-looking, non self-sufficient animal feeding off its yolk supply (Foelix, 1996). After a few more molts, also called instars, body structures become differentiated.

About molting (shedding):
he exoskeleton of an arachnid is hard. This does not allow for growth. To overcome this problem, spiders will shed their old exoskeletons, allowing a new and larger one to replace it. The new larger exoskeleton fits underneath the old one, because it is still elastic. A layer of fluid separates the new and old skeletons. As the old skeleton is shed, the new one will expand to its full size, before hardening out on contact with air. The arachnid will have to flex its new exoskeleton, or it will become inflexible and less mobile until its next molt. Other reasons for molting are damaged tissue and missing limbs. Over a series of molts, a missing limb can be regenerated, the stump being a little larger with each molt until it is of normal size again. After molting, the exoskeleton is still delicate and the arachnid is vulnerable to predators or even its own prey.

Somebody at marvel needs to do some more research on arachnids. :roll:

[Fledermaus]

Talking about editing costumes, I thought it might be a neat idea to see my edits "in action". So here we go.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3972/jqv01edit13be.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jqv01edit13be.jpg) http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/373/jqv01edit28uh.th.jpg (http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jqv01edit28uh.jpg)
Edits 1 and 2.

And to finish it off, the crowdpleasing Venom-edit.
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3382/jqv01edit39wv.th.jpg (http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jqv01edit39wv.jpg)

Note: I didn't change the colours of those atrocious spider-legs, because they're organic and so they are a part of Spidey like his hair or something. And no, I don't like them... at all.

the venom colors, once again, look best -- then again, this design isn't the most original... that reminds me:

http://www.geocities.com/allspiderwomen/spiwomen/Sw2-12.gif

So, that's where we get our spider-legs from. Mattie Franklin, Spider-Woman.

Not a thing original about this stupid new costume...

[Anarky]

Well, if you had other suggestions about the coloouring of the new costume, let me know. I've got plenty of time to play around with that image.

And I thought I knew the spider-legs from somewhere... now I know wherefrom. Anyhow, couldn't they have given Spidey four spider-legs? You know, spiders have eight legs and all that...

[Fledermaus]

Well, if you had other suggestions about the coloouring of the new costume, let me know. I've got plenty of time to play around with that image.

You know, as a matter of fact... I think that second coloring job you did would have been great, if maybe the blue weren't so intense -- if you could make it more of an pewter/ultramarine than sprite sky blue, and likewise a not-so flashy red (more like blood red), it would look a little... richer, I guess. :)

[Anarky]

You know, I went back to the original colours, which were plain red and plain blue. None of that Ultramarine-stuff (hell, I didn't even know that colour existed up to now), but as I promised, here you go. Edit #2.1.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5551/jqv01edit219kt.th.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jqv01edit219kt.jpg)

For my taste, that's too dark. I'd prefer Edit #2, because it's more like Spidey and not some dark/gloomy character.

EDIT: And if you find other pictures of new Spidey, then show them here. I might or might not edit them. Besides, I want to see more of his new look.

[Fledermaus]

not darker colors, richer. Ultramarine/pewter color... it's sort of hard to describe. Would that be navy blue? Kind of a grayer blue and not so intense. It doesn't have to be a dark color, just a different color.

Crud. When I find the colors, I'll show em to you.

And I think these are the only pictures anyone has of the new suit... I don't think the issue featuring the new suit has come out yet.

[Anarky]

not darker colors, richer. Ultramarine/pewter color... it's sort of hard to describe. Would that be navy blue? Kind of a grayer blue and not so intense. It doesn't have to be a dark color, just a different color.

Crud. When I find the colors, I'll show em to you.

Okay, then I officially don't know what the heck ultramarine and/or pewter is. :D

Let's do it like this: If any of you wants an extraordinary colour, then make sure to include a sample of the colours you wish to see. I will then take the colours from that image.


And I think these are the only pictures anyone has of the new suit... I don't think the issue featuring the new suit has come out yet.

I thought so. But should you come across any new pictures then make sure to show me, okay?

[Ra]

In dentibus anticis frustrum magnum spiniciae habes - You have a big piece of spinach in your front teeth
:lol: That is just priceless

[BartAllen]

I like it, the new suit is ugly as sin, but i like it. its much better then kyle new suit i saw today.

[FireFly]

new image
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Spider-Man/newcostume/amazing529.jpg
i hate to say it but this costume is growing on me

[Barkworm]

I liked the Quesada pic but this one is absolutely horrible. :dead:

[Anarky]

Is it just me or is he wallcrawling... wearing socks???

So, who wants to see edits?

[Barkworm]

If you can edit the ugliness away, sure! :lol:

[Anarky]

I can try... but that's going to be a tough one.

Socks???

[Barkworm]

Who drew that pic anyway?

[Mecha Cow]

Hmm...So the spider arms actually are part of the costume, huh? Lame, they really break up the sleekness of the costume itself. Other than the arms I still say it looks good though.

I just wish they'd make his eyes white.

[Fledermaus]

new image
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Spider-Man/newcostume/amazing529.jpg
i hate to say it but this costume is growing on me

The costume itself is still unoriginal. Spidey is still holy and magical, and therefore dead as far as I'm concerned. Whoever drew that pic is a good artist. But whoever colored that pic...:dead: either didn't care about details or needs to practice shading. The lighting is all wrong on Spidey -- the colorist was so concerned with making the costume look metallic (which s/he succeeded in doing) that the form was muchly overlooked. Spidey's face looks very lumpy, for example.

[Anarky]

Okay, here we go...

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1346/amazing529edit18ub.th.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazing529edit18ub.jpg) http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/7371/amazing529edit26nu.th.jpg (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazing529edit26nu.jpg) http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/4530/amazing529edit34jm.th.jpg (http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazing529edit34jm.jpg)

And I do realize that there are some odd pixels on his head and hands, but that's because of the reflections and all that sh*t. I could work around them, but since that picture is ugly to begin with, I won't.

And somone asked me (not here) to do a Green Lantern edit. So I did.

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3110/jqv01gledit1uc.th.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3110/jqv01gledit1uc.jpg)

[BartAllen]

Yeah.. his new suit is really growing on me. and im definitely intersted in seeing how those robot extra arm things work.

[Anarky]

From all I've read, those things aren't robot arms. I read that they're organic.

And that suit won't last very long... most likely. There's been a lot of rumours about a big fight between Iron Man and Spider-Man in the upcoming Civil-War-storyline.

[BartAllen]

From all I've read, those things aren't robot arms. I read that they're organic.

And that suit won't last very long... most likely. There's been a lot of rumours about a big fight between Iron Man and Spider-Man in the upcoming Civil-War-storyline.
theyre organic? weird.

[Rikirk]

Is there any hope of Spidey returning to his true form?

As I've stated already, the costume design doesnt bother me except for a few quibbles(Color..those stupid extra spider limbs).

What I want is the *true* hero. The hero whos powers were both his blessing, and his curse. Not some mystic shaman what have you flavor of the moment thingy.

I guess I can always go back and read my issues from the late 70's. At this point im half tempted to have the alien symbiote bond with him and have him become Venom already. At least the weird story lines might make some sense.

...At least he hopefully remains somewhat consistant in The New Avengers, I've heard good things about that...need to check it out.

[Anarky]

So "The Other" is over. And I really like the ending. Some of his new powers are really neat, like that websense and the sticky back. Makes him more spidery. Now that we get to see more spidery stuff, I realize how unspidery he was. I hope they'll keep those two.

But they can get rid of those spikes... and the extra legs... and the costume.

[BartAllen]

I just read an interview that JMS did over at the rama. and it appears the arms are indeed mechanical. and the reason for the suits color are because it was designed and built by tony stark. I mean come on think of the character it makes a lot of sense that he would have the suit be yellow and gold.

[FireFly]

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Spider-Man/amazing/amazing529_9.jpg

full article here http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Spider-Man/amazing/Straczynski.htm

the idea of spider-man Vs Titanium Man is sounding great to me

[ZariusTwo]

Cut. Print. Gay.

[Anarky]

Spider-Man flies? Wow, how amazingly stupid.

[Spitfire]

-_- Only Cosmic Spidey should be able to fly.

[Anarky]

You know, I hope Civil War will be a huge Retcon, allthough I like some of Spidey's new powers (see post above). I mean, I always felt that Spidey not being able to fly makes him different from the other heroes. But I guess, he has to fly now, since it's the "kewl" thing to do.

Oh, and there's also good news:

We've always said that this is not going to be permanent. I don't want to give out specifics, because that would compromise aspects of Mark's Civil War story, but I'd certainly expect the original costume to be back sometime by 2007.

[Jester]

here you go anarky....try this one...
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/Spider-Man/amazing/amazing529_7.jpg

[Anarky]

This must be the daftest pose ever. But at least you don't see his socks.

I'll do the edits as soon as I can. Any wishes?

[Barkworm]

Some of his new powers are really neat, like that websense and the sticky back.
Could you specify on this? What's a websense and a sticky back?

[Anarky]

Websense: Just like a spider, Spidey can feel what happens in his net. He can feel the stuff that goes on around him when he uses his net. This is pretty cool, because I can imagine a lot of cool uses for that, like setting traps or tracking.

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/9637/websense1nv.jpg

Sticky back: Some spiders carry their kids on their back and now Spider-Man can do that too with people, which gives him more freedom while carrying stuff and people. I like this new power just because it's spidery. I can't imagine a good use with it, thinking that he'll have three huge mechanical Spider-arms on his back...

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6610/stickyback8hu.jpg

[Barkworm]

Thanks! :)
BTW, the new pics look atrocious. :dead:

[Rikirk]

I guess i like those new powers too, the Sticky back and sensitivity to vibration and all that. Very Spidery and usefull as powers go.

I just would rather not see the things that de humanize him. The limbs are what does it for me, Man Spider all over again. I do like the features Tony Stark built into the armor though, The Eyepieces that can zoom in like binoculars. The infra red vision. Didnt Spiderman unlimited have that though?

And is it just me or does Spidey look like an iron man clone now.

"Hey look..its Iron Man...no..wait, hes sticking to the side of that wall...thats SPIDER MAN!":roll:

In my mind, Spidermans original red and Blue colors will always be a classic, but Im thinking spidey should be more ninja like. Instead of having a completely black outfit which would be a bit dull it is a practical color. How about that image in Black but with a royal blue spider motif and blue eyepieces.

[Raven]

What have they done to spidey:cry:

God Marvel is ruining my favorite character!

[Fledermaus]

In my mind, Spidermans original red and Blue colors will always be a classic, but Im thinking spidey should be more ninja like. Instead of having a completely black outfit which would be a bit dull it is a practical color. How about that image in Black but with a royal blue spider motif and blue eyepieces.

More ninja-like? Well, there was this odd tangent a while back...
http://krillen2099.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/102401_spidey.jpg

Anyways... yeah, I think the sticky back and websense make a good deal of sense. Keep em. But flying and stingers... :thumbsdo:

I've been out of money, lately, so I can only glimpse at comics in the store... I just hope there's hope of disconnecting Spidey from the nether-magic fairy world.

And that costume still looks horrible.:dead:

[Anarky]

Here's the picture that Fledermaus wanted to link. It doesn't work, because Tripod doesn't allow hotlinking of the images on their servers.

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2029/102401spidey0qi.th.jpg (http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=102401spidey0qi.jpg)

The image is taken from "Marvel Mangaverse" by the way.

Anyways, what I've been wondering: Why do they make such a big fuzz about it all when it's only going to be for a year?

[BartAllen]

I guess stuff like this doesnt bother me. because i know eventually everything will return to status quo.. spider-man will in one way or another lose the new powers. the organic shooters. and everything. it may take a couple of years but itll happen.

[Anarky]

Yeah, but just like Zap-Superman (despite the fact that the idea and the look were kinda cool, it just wasn't Superman) it will leave a bad taste in the reader's mouth. If I was Marvel I'd have created another Spider-character with these powers. But sadly, they've just gotten Spider-Woman out of the limbo...

Anyways, I think that the websense, the sticky back and the organic webbing just might stay. They're cool and unique superpowers and they fit Spider-Man quite well.

[BartAllen]

Yeah, but just like Zap-Superman (despite the fact that the idea and the look were kinda cool, it just wasn't Superman) it will leave a bad taste in the reader's mouth. If I was Marvel I'd have created another Spider-character with these powers. But sadly, they've just gotten Spider-Woman out of the limbo...

Anyways, I think that the websense, the sticky back and the organic webbing just might stay. They're cool and unique superpowers and they fit Spider-Man quite well.
I also like electric superman, but i was glad when the original returned. I dont think this will leave any type of taste in anyones mouth. it will be talked about like the clone saga, but everyone will get past it. its just foot note. a 1 year foot note.

[ZariusTwo]

I also like electric superman, but i was glad when the original returned. I dont think this will leave any type of taste in anyones mouth. it will be talked about like the clone saga, but everyone will get past it.

You speak as if the Clone Saga was just a footnote, when in fact it killed the Spider-Man franchise DEAD until JMS took control, and then when the movie was released

[Anarky]

Okay, the new costume premiered yesterday. And the issue was quite good, I must say. The costume can do all sorts of cool things, like infrared-visions and it has a gasmask included. It's pretty cool, I tell you. But it still doesn't look like Spider-Man. It just doesn't feel right. And Spidey can't fly, he just glides.

But the story was quite interesting. Tony asks Peter to be on his side in Civil War, and Peter agrees. I can't wait for what's going to happen next.

[Ra]

...is it just me, or can I hear the old Spiderman theme when I hear about this new version of Spidey?

Spiderman, Spiderman,
Freaky costumed Spiderman
Was once cool but, Marvel did
Horrible things that made him weird
Beware, here comes the retarded Spidermaaaaan :P

Yeah...Marvel has got hell to pay with what they did to him...