I miss Krang, Bebop, and Rocksteady.

[TerranigmaFreak]

I know Krang was sorta in the comics but Bebop and Rocksteady weren't. Even though they were kinda lame, I miss them. Any chance they might make a cameo? Especially Krang.

[Raphael-sama]

They won't appear in the actual show, alas. I do think we'll get some one-liners and throwbacks to the old cartoon that only us seasoned geezers will catch (and I remain fast in my belief that we'll get at least a couple "COWABUNGA!" phrases before the season is over.

And if you really miss the old cast: finding episodes of the old cartoon is easier than ever, so get to it! Quick like a bunny!

-Badabing.

[TerranigmaFreak]

Speaking fo the old cartoon, where can I download the original Intro? I know this site has it but it's only streamed. I want to save it to my computer. Heck I want to collect all the intros. Including the new one they showed today.

[Reznorite420]

You might find an MPEG version of the original one on Kazaa, but I believe Ninja Turtles Network has the intros in .rm format.

[Karpo_007]

Yeah those charaters are TMNT history now...

[Reznorite420]

As much as I liked them, I'll admit they have no place in the new TMNT universe, just like there were some X-Men characters that didn't fit in the new X-Men when it premiered...

[Wingnut]

Like which x-men?

[Mondo_Gecko]

I'm really gunna miss Rocksteady & Bebop it just won't feel the same without them.

But it looks like it will an interesting show, and i'm just glad TMNT is back period.

[Karpo_007]

Well it isn't supposed to feel the same. Like Rez put it, in this universe there is no place for them.

[Reznorite420]

Like which x-men?The original X-Men vs. the early 90's cartoon X-Men.

[Nturtle]

Yeah its too bad... though we will be seeing utroms by the end of the first season, they don't have Krang's great personality :lol:

[Karpo_007]

Well Technically, Krang wasn't an Utrom...

[Mondo_Gecko]

I'm really hoping if the show has a second season maybe they could all appear if for at least one episode.

[Karpo_007]

Not likely... Laird isn't really fond of them, and he seems to be calling the shots.

[Nturtle]

Well Technically, Krang wasn't an Utrom...
Yeah I know, but he was based off of them and in the daily comic strip he is one!! :P

[Karpo_007]

True... He's looks were copied from Utroms... And the daily comic is pretty funny...

[Nturtle]

YAY!!! So I'm not the only one out there who actually reads the daily comics!!! :P

[Karpo_007]

Heh nope... Im guessing many people here are reading them...

[Nturtle]

Yeah, the comic of creators.com went over its 10 year deal awhile ago, but the official site still has them :D

[Kali]

As I've said, I read the daily comic too. It's so funny.

As for Bebop, Rocksteady, and Krang, some characters are just meant to appear in one universe. You can add in there Venus, Danny, Keno, Prof. Perry, the Nuetrinos, etc. etc.

There are only two ways to bring these characters back for you. 1) watch the old cartoon show, or 2) write/read fan fics.

[TerranigmaFreak]

Venus, Danny, Keno, Prof. Perry, the Nuetrinos

These guys I don't miss since they were only created for the movie. To be really fond of certain characters they have to appear for a long time to really have a place in my heart. I never like the Nuetrinos though.

[Nturtle]

"Cool? Daddio, we are frozen!!"

One of my all time favorite TMNT lines :D
I hope we will later see te Rat King, Leatherhead and some of the other Mirage/cartoon characters at least

[Jephael]

I'm really gunna miss Rocksteady & Bebop it just won't feel the same without them.

Me and Mondo were just talking about the new show's premeir character Hun and I mentioned that Hun looks alot like Rocksteady when he was an ordinary punk in the first episode of the original season.

[Sauron]

That's interesting. Maybe a little "accident" will happen involving Hun. :D

[Mondo_Gecko]

Yeah hmmm the wheel;s are already turning. Now we just need a friend of Hun with purple hair.

[Sauron]

That would be nice. 8)

[Karpo_007]

Not gonna hapen in million years... :lol:

[Nturtle]

Can always home :evilgrin: *pushes Hun into a vat of Mutagen*

[heretic888]

sorry, chums. aint happening.

[beaker]

Thankfully the days of the goofy Flyboy Baxter, Krang, Bebop, and rocksteady are buried in the past.

All we have now is the new evolution of the TMNT which looks sweeter than ever.

[Sparvid]

Thankfully the days of the goofy Flyboy Baxter, Krang, Bebop, and rocksteady are buried in the past.

All we have now is the new evolution of the TMNT which looks sweeter than ever.*wipes a tear*
I couldn't have said it better... :)

[Karpo_007]

Yeah they are part of History now like Venus and archie charcters.

[Raphael-sama]

Respect yo elders.

*invisions an old and wrinkly (well, moreso wrinkly) Krang whacking Karpo with a cane* :lol:

[Karpo_007]

Heh.. :lol:

[Nturtle]

How od would you say Krang is? :P

[Karpo_007]

Well technically he was born in 87, So im older than him! :evilgrin:

[Supermik]

That is a tragedy! :cry:

They are the only bad guys very simpa!

How?! :o a new Tv show without Krang, Rocksteady, Bebop, The Techodrome! How is it possible?! That's a big tragedy...

Just Lord Dregg was very :dead: !
The last TV show series without Krang and the others was horrible!

[Karpo_007]

No, thats a big relief. Face it, Krang, Rocksteady and Bepop are now TMNT history. A new Era has begun.

[Supermik]

No, thats a big relief. Face it, Krang, Rocksteady and Bepop are now TMNT history. A new Era has begun.

Belin, a terrible era!

You have undestand, that i'm a big fan of the TMNT TV shows series 1987 --->1991, really Karpo?

I'm for the old era. Beautiful time, was!

[Keno]

I did like some of those old characters, and I will miss some of them, but from what Ive seen of this new cartoon, its going to be good no matter what characters are in it. It looks super

[Karpo_007]

Yeah there are 10 season of the old cartoon[OR basicly 8 with the Krang and company], So if you are going to miss the Goofy turtles, there is a lot to watch.

[beaker]

Yeah there are 10 season of the old cartoon[OR basicly 8 with the Krang and company], So if you are going to miss the Goofy turtles, there is a lot to watch.

I sure dont miss it! Just some of the first season and that uber rad theme song! ^_^

[Karpo_007]

I missed the feeling of the first season during 4-6...

[That Matt Guy]

I guess modern cartoons don't have any place for a talking brain that looks like a piece of chewed up bubble gum. Why hasn't anybody mentioned that they miss Vernon and Irma? :D

[Straight-Edge]

I guess modern cartoons don't have any place for a talking brain that looks like a piece of chewed up bubble gum. >>

Oh, there's plenty of room for talking brains.

Its a specific brain that was disembodied and mutated into a character named Krang that has outlived his usefulness.

Other talking "walking" brains are still viabe parts of the TMNT Universe :)

[Karpo_007]

Yes and will be appearing in the show.

[beaker]

I missed the feeling of the first season during 4-6...

I dont miss all out goofy little to no violence/weapon use...or Vernon! Ack...how the heck did that Full House rejec make it into the show?

[Tokka-B]

:x :x :x :x :x :x :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE BEST HUMAN CHARACTER IN ALL OF TMNT!!!!!! :flaming: :flaming: :flaming: :flaming: :flaming:

[Jephael]

Be careful, Beaker. Nobody minds it if you diss Bebop or Rocksteady (they put up with Shredder's all the time), but we got some Vernon worshippers here on the board. Have you seen Cherubae's banner?

[Shredder]

I'm for the old era. Beautiful time, was!

I'm with you on that.

[That Matt Guy]

I dont miss all out goofy little to no violence/weapon use...or Vernon! Ack...how the heck did that Full House rejec make it into the show?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Vernon IS basically Bob Saget in cartoon form.

[Eye of Sarnath]

Uh, yeah, Bob Saget in cartoon form, I always wanted to see that...

I still like the old toon' not as much as did when I first saw it, but I still like it, and probably always will. Sure, it's childish, but when I think of TMNT, the first thing I think of is the cartoon.

[Keno]

LOL! I loved Vernon too, he was so crazy "I'll cover my rear..uh THE rear!" It was fun to laugh at how much of a loser he was!!!

but then again I dont think he fits into the feel of the new show. Maybe they'll have someone else be the comic relief(other than Mikey)

[Sparvid]

:x :x :x :x :x :x :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE BEST HUMAN CHARACTER IN ALL OF TMNT!!!!!! :flaming: :flaming: :flaming: :flaming: :flaming:Casey? :P

[Supermik]

I'm for the old era. Beautiful time, was!

I'm with you on that.

Shredder is allied with a Turtle?! :o incredible!

[Jephael]

I still like the old toon' not as much as did when I first saw it, but I still like it, and probably always will. Sure, it's childish, but when I think of TMNT, the first thing I think of is the cartoon.

I couldn't have said it better myself. :tcool:

[beaker]

LOL! I loved Vernon too, he was so crazy "I'll cover my rear..uh THE rear!" It was fun to laugh at how much of a loser he was!!!

but then again I dont think he fits into the feel of the new show. Maybe they'll have someone else be the comic relief(other than Mikey)

Oh dear, look out...the worshippers of the high alter of Vernon will flame you;)

Be careful, Beaker. Nobody minds it if you diss Bebop or Rocksteady (they put up with Shredder's all the time), but we got some Vernon worshippers here on the board. Have you seen Cherubae's banner?

Um, so what...we all have to put our tastes aside, say The Next Mutation and TMNT 2/3 rocked, and that the cartoon was the greatest thing since sliced bread? I understand there is the mirage crowd, the cartoon crowd, etc...and yeah the past was a great era. But man, from the brand new clips Ive seen of the new TMNT, the toys, and everything else...no better time to be a fan than now!

[That Matt Guy]

I think it is safe to say that Vernon has been casted off into oblivion. :lol:

[Snailman]

"Cool? Daddio, we are frozen!!"

One of my all time favorite TMNT lines :D
I hope we will later see te Rat King, Leatherhead and some of the other Mirage/cartoon characters at least

We'd :flaming:BETTER:flaming: get a new, in-scale (i.e. BIG) Leatherhead figure in the new line. I love the original, dinky one to death but we really need a mutant aligator thats bigger then a turtle, not smaller then it. I plan on buying all the new Mini-figures just so I can have my old Leather head figure be in scale with them. :evilgrin:

As for seeing Rocksteady & Bebop again? I won't really miss'em much. I'm always 80% into something for the toys, so if Playmates makes a mutant Boar or a mutant Rhino, that'd be cool with me.

Toylines make toys & characters that exist only in toy form all the time, so don't go tellin' me it couldn't happen. Transformers has ALOT of toys that were never in the cartoons, same with G.I. Joe & He-Man (although with he-man i think the only one was Stinkor, but I could be wrong).

Heck, the old TMNT toyline was almost entirely composed of on non-show figures/characters. I watched all of the original cartoon series as a kid & I have no memory of ever seeing the following TMNT characters on the show (as active characters who contributed to the episode, Ace Duck just had a cameo as a cartoon show of his own & thus doesn't really count as being on the show):

Wyrm
Ray Fillet
Walkabout
Sergeant Bananas
Triceraton
Pizza Face
Panda Khan
Ace Duck
Fugitoid
Scumbug
Killer Bee
Needlenose
Antrax
King Lionheart
Doctor El
Scale Tail
Monty Moose
Sandstorm
Halfcourt
Hot Spot
Scratch
Shogun Shoate
&
Hothead (although I'm not 100% sure, as he might've been in an episode as I seem to recall one that a giant dragon genie in it)

All the above characters/figures never appeared on the show & a few of them never even appeared anywhere other then the toy isles. Playmates should'nt be able to hand us that "but it's not on the cartoon" line, cause it's B.S.

I just want lots of cool mutant animal, alien, ninja & robot figures in this new line, and I'm sure Peter Laird wouldn't mind seeing all that either, so who knows what may happen in the future? :D

-Snailman

[Anarchistguy]

I just hope it DOESN'T happen.

[Karpo_007]

Well Personally I don't care what toys they put out, If they sell like they have now[Even before the cartoon has even premiered!] It just helps to get a second season for the show.

[That Matt Guy]

Do you think we'll ever see Muckman and Joe Eyeball again?

[Donatello02]

Personally, I want them to remake Mutagen Man.

[Kameko]

Well Personally I don't care what toys they put out, If they sell like they have now[Even before the cartoon has even premiered!]


Yeah, our WalMart around here is ALREADY SOLD OUT of the individual figures. And people acted like I was nuts in HighSchool for liking the Turtles. Sheesh. :roll:

[Karpo_007]

It can't be just the old fans buing them, The kids must like those too.

[Eye of Sarnath]

Yeah, our WalMart around here is ALREADY SOLD OUT of the individual figures.

And so are a good deal of the KB Toys and Wal Marts in my area, they barely have any figures left. Same with Toys R Us. This is a good sign, methinks, that the world is ready for the TMNT once more.

Ah, the bliss. :D

[Mondo_Gecko]

I really would like to see Mondo Gecko, The Frogs, Ace Duck, Muckman & Joe Eyeball, Man Ray again. That be so cool.

[Jephael]

Yeah, I don't see why Eastman and Laird would've had anything against them. Hell, they appeared in the Archie comics a hell of alot more often than in the toon.

[Karpo_007]

Well Eastman and Laird had very little to do with archie or the cartoon. They just sold the license. Well tey did few covers for Archie, but thats about it.

[Donatello02]

Why didn't they just control what was coming out with TMNT label on it? Then maybe TMNT 3 wouldn't have been so craptacular.

[Karpo_007]

Because they really couldn't. They did try to give Ideas for the first season of the cartoon, and they managed to make the first movie good, but after that they had to do some compromises. There was something about this on the official page.

[Sauron]

And people acted like I was nuts in HighSchool for liking the Turtles. Sheesh. :roll:

That's the same with me. If I mention them to anyone they just say, those guys suck!,what are you,5? You're an idiot!,It's going to fail,etc. Lots of stupid people that give nothing a chance. :roll:

[Karpo_007]

Yes that is the public Ignorance that the old cartoon caused. Now everybody thinks TMNT as the "Pokemon of the 80's". They have no idea what the original TMNT were like. Hopefully this new cartoon will change things.

[Donatello02]

I wish they came out with the cartoon EXACTLY like the comic. And it would be shown on like Cartoon Network or something. Make it all serious and darker. THAT would be dope. But we'll never get that, so never mind.

[Mondo_Gecko]

The old cartoon was fine the way it was.

[Jephael]

This debate is never going to die is it? :trolleye:

[Karpo_007]

This debate is never going to die is it? :trolleye:

No debate, it's his opinion. The next guy could come saying he thinks next mutation is fine. Thats the way of the world.

[Anarchistguy]

The old cartoon was fine the way it was.

HELL NO! But hey! It's your opinion!

[Sauron]

I love the old cartoon,and I'll love the new cartoon. TNM sucks. :lol:

[Anarchistguy]

You're damn right it does!

[That Matt Guy]

I'll have to wait until I see the new cartoon before I can make an opinion about it. The intro looks cool, but the cartoon itself might seriously blow.

[beaker]

I wish they came out with the cartoon EXACTLY like the comic. And it would be shown on like Cartoon Network or something. Make it all serious and darker. THAT would be dope. But we'll never get that, so never mind.

My wish was for a new series that was a new evolution, a mix of the non kiddy anime style with homage to the original series yet something new...looks like I got my wish!

And THANK GOODNESS it wont be on cable! Its bad enough Ive missed out on a lot of cool toons cuz of cable...finally it will be able to be seen by everybody.

Im just glad its not based on the current Mirage comic, man lookign throgh the current series, one just has to shake their head in disbelief.

[Karpo_007]

Well a TV- show of original Mirage is a dream that will probably never come true. But in this new cartoon the atmosphere seems to be pretty close, So im really happy with it.