Official T-Drome "Suggestions for Nickelodeon Cartoon" Thread

[***The One True Shredder***]

For the most part, the title says it all.

The holidays are over and I know that the buy-out got many of us bummed out, but I've also noticed that many fans have become extremely nostalgic and/or productive regarding discussion on these boards.

Between Mirage Studios' statement via Danny B that the Official Site would be turned over to Viacom (thus no updates for quite some time) and Playmates' decision to put any TMNT projects currently in the works on hiatus for at least another year, it really seems that very few goodies are going to be in the works for quite awhile, aside from the guaranteed four remaining issues of Tales and the Sideshow statues. So...

I would like a moderator to sticky this thread, and I would like some productive discussion regarding the sort of cartoon that all of you would like to see from Nick. Please remember that while you don't HAVE to like the '80's TMNT cartoon, old 'toon bashing isn't allowed on these forums (Krang and Shredder's rules, not mine). I would also ask that you don't waste your energy or the energy of your peers throwing out ideas that Nick won't realistically consider.

Ideally, it would be great if Nick sent a representative over to these boards to discuss new cartoon possibilities with us, and if anyone here has those kind of "connections," mention it, by all means. I have a lot of faith in us as a community, and I think it would be more productive if we started discussing the kind of cartoon we'd like to see from Nick rather than just gripe and complain about how it will probably suck.

[Scandia]

- Continue with the 2k3 universe.

- Adapt Archie comic adventures.

[lilmotto]

Cartoons of today are not like cartoons of yester-year. Keep this is mind! Most cartoons now a days that are fun and goofy have some sort of plot. I would really love to see this new series have a fluid story. That sadly was missing (I believe) from the original TMNT cartoons. Yes there were times when there would be several episodes devoted to one topic, but nothing to the extent of current tv shows. I believe Super Hero Squad sets a nice standard for the new TMNT toon to follow. It is goofy and fun for both young and old. They take tons of characters at their disposal and have fun with them. If this is going to be a comedic show don't forget about it's origin and the universe itself. Tap into the Rat King, Krang, Shredder, Rocksteady, Beebop, and all the others. No not everyone enjoyed the cartoon but you have to admit the goons in the show were fun! :P

[Venom]

Super Hero Squad is too kiddy, but that's the demographic of the show. I have to remind myself the new series is going to be CG, and so far the only Nick shows I know of that is CG is goofy ones like Jimmy Neutron, Back at the Barnyard, Penguins of Madagascar. If they insist on staying with CG then I hope they invest the necessary time and money to develop impressive assets that will brink believable action and fluidity to the character's movements and give the Turtle's a nice look.

I've not watched Clone Wars on CN but I've seen plenty previews and the action in that series seems to be pretty top notch and the production quality is superb for a weekly series. The characters are a little pointy, but I suppose that makes producing toys easier?

Anyway, since CG is relatively cheaper to produce than traditional 2D animation then please spend the money and energy to give the show a high quality luster. You make assets once and use them for years, maybe updating textures every couple or so.

[Kendamu]

If Viacom and Nick want to go the goofy route, I'd like to see something similar to The Brave and the Bold on CN. It would allow the show to be goofy but also sport some really cool action scenes rather than being forced to resort to the slapstick of the middle seasons of the OT.

[***The One True Shredder***]

Again, is there any way I can get a moderator to sticky this thread?

[Koi]

I would like them to make this a newer version of the 80's cartoon. With great slapstick action scenes.

[Samhain]

I would like them to make this a newer version of the 80's cartoon. With great slapstick action scenes.

I wouldnt mind that. Just a little less goofy than the 80s. I would want a mash of the 2k3 series with the 80s toon. That would be sweet. With quality animation too.

[***The One True Shredder***]

For the most part (and I'm talking about those who are actually thinking about this realistically) the general consensus seems to be that we'd all be happy with a "hybrid" cartoon containing elements from the '80's and '90's as well as the 2K3 cartoon. I personally wouldn't mind seeing elements from Next Mutation incorporated, even Venus, so long as she was a more elusive character, not the long-lost sister who hangs around the sewer getting hit on by Mikey. :tconfuse:

[CyberCubed]

What will be ok with me:

- Old toon characters and villains returning
- Show being more similar in tone to the original series
- 2k3 characters like Hun and Bishop appearing
- Archie and/or Mirage plotlines being adapted

What I do NOT want:

- Slapstick kiddie series. Let's face it, this is going to be CG, which makes us all worried. The original TMNT cartoon always had an adventure/action element to it, even if the plots were silly. That's what kept it a fun watch.

- Do not **** with the origins. Keep things similar to the comics. I don't mind Splinter being Hamato Yoshi rather than his pet rat. I get the feeling Shredder will be human, and not an Utrom too.

- New lame villains. While some new villains are expected, Nick has a backlog of villains from the old toon, Archie, Mirage and 2k3 series to use.

[Ninjinister]

Respect the multiverse. Mirage and 4Kids spent a lot of time making hints at it, and now it may end up the way of a Travis Touchdown save. I'm not saying have crossovers and such frequent in the new material, just that it play some sort of a role, even just as a Tales #58-style cameo.

Also: make it good.

That's all I ask.

[Powder]

They have a bajillion characters at their disposal, they ought to be used. I don't oppose new villains at all, as long as they arent past the uber rediculous boundary, or corny. I never like touch & go, thought they were dumb. Alot of the 0T wannabe villains like the dude who played the keyboard to make people zombies, & the pirate dude after mona lisa... ugh. WACK.

They BETTER use cudley the cowlick. Ya dig?


...Segwaying into the use of the mighty mutanimals :D


Also, mirage characters.


They really should make a nod to the comic by refering to krang as an utrom rather then a bodiless blob brain thingy.

[Venom]

But Krang wasn't an Oot. He was merely based on them.

He could be an exiled criminal in the new show though, much like Ch'rell was in 2k3.

[Powder]

But Krang wasn't an Oot. He was merely based on them.

He could be an exiled criminal in the new show though, much like Ch'rell was in 2k3.



This is my point.

He was a brain like creature, with only tentacles, eyes and a mouth, yet he wasn't an utrom. He should be.. in the new series. As far as the whole exiled criminal thing goes, that works perfectly fine being that he was exactly that in the OT. It's a perfect blend.

Tell you what though, he better have a good voice.

[Venom]

Oh yeah! If Pat can't reprise the role then perhaps the new Krang VO could. Except I didn't like the way he burped. He needs to work on his Krang croaks.

Remember when they showed what Krang looked like with the body? I forgot who they were, his lieutenants or something, but they were these giant dinosaur bodied Krang-headed guys.

Man, I gotta get the OT series on DVD!

[Powder]

Oh yeah! If Pat can't reprise the role then perhaps the new Krang VO could. Except I didn't like the way he burped. He needs to work on his Krang croaks.

Remember when they showed what Krang looked like with the body? I forgot who they were, his lieutenants or something, but they were these giant dinosaur bodied Krang-headed guys.

Man, I gotta get the OT series on DVD!


Personally I think they should use me if pat fraley isnt available. I do a mean krang. No lie.

But yeah I do remember that episode. The 'krang's looked reaalllly weird... I did enjoy seeing various colored versions of him though lmfao some voiced in the style of vernon etc it was a kick.

[***The One True Shredder***]

Remember when they showed what Krang looked like with the body? I forgot who they were, his lieutenants or something, but they were these giant dinosaur bodied Krang-headed guys.

They were his clones.

[Kendamu]

I would like them to make this a newer version of the 80's cartoon. With great slapstick action scenes.
Yeah, see... it's that slapstick thing I don't want. All the rest of the goofy jokes and personalities aren't a problem. I would just like to see legitimate exciting action scenes... like The Brave and the Bold.

[plastroncafe]

Something akin to the quality storytelling found in "Avatar: The Last Airbender" would not go amiss.

Great world building.
Amazing characters.
Solid plots.

Actual character development.
It can be done, Nick. You've done it before!

[odupianist]

Something similar to Spectacular Spider-man would be pretty cool. I believe they should just start fresh though, combing the 80's, 2k3, and Archie. Definitely needs an overall plot too, a creative, well thought out one though.

[***The One True Shredder***]

I wondering if we should have a disclaimer in this thread saying that any and all ideas discussed in this thread we forfeit to Nickelodeon? Probably doesn't matter either way.

[CyberCubed]

You really think anyone from Nick is reading this thread? Or the fact that anyone from Nick would actually take any ideas from this thread?

Most likely not.

[oldmanwinters]

What do you think of a show with Alex Deligiannis (http://www.alexdeligiannis.com/) driving the art direction? He is already involved with Nick's The Fairly Oddparents (never seen it personally). Still, he has a great love for the property and provides an interesting and modern take on the Old Cartoon's style:
http://www.alexdeligiannis.com/search/label/TMNT

[Koi]

What do you think of a show with Alex Deligiannis (http://www.alexdeligiannis.com/) driving the art direction? He is already involved with Nick's The Fairly Oddparents (never seen it personally). Still, he has a great love for the property and provides an interesting and modern take on the Old Cartoon's style:
http://www.alexdeligiannis.com/search/label/TMNT

A Nick artist who reads the comics? I find that a pretty cool sign for the future cartoons.

I have always love Fairly Odd parents, that show has some funny lines thrown here and their.

[Spitfire]

Here's some suggestions

1. Make it like "Wolverine and the X-men"

2. Base it loosely on the comics but don't jerk them off. Bad comic adaptations do no one any good.

3. Don't be afraid to pull from the old toon but don't go buck wild with the idea either. Turtles works as an action comedy, keep it that way.

4. CGI is horrible, avoid it.

5. Have character development. Also have storyline that connect and build to something. Villain of the week might sell toys but it will ward off any long term viewers.

6. Realize that making things "dark" does not make them good. The idea that something is "dark" and "gritty" sounds cool in concept but that doesn't add to the maturity of something. In fact often times it does the exact opposite or makes for laughably bad dialogue. Like when Leo was all "angry" in season 4.

7. Shredder is not the only villain. Kill him early or use him sparingly. He's a lot more interesting when he's not around every episode.

8. There's a huge stock pile of TMNT villains, use them. The last thing we need is someone inventing new and extremely unimaginative villains.

9. Stop making Mikey annoying. Yeah he's the "funny guy" but he's not a complete moron. Give the character some depth. He was quite mature in the comics.

10. Make it like "Wolverine and the X-men"

[rayfillet101]

Take note of the successful action cartoons that are based on comics with longstanding history and many characters while focusing on story and character development and continuity: Wolverine and the X-Men, Spectacular Spider-man, Batman TAS, The Batman(a good example of rebranding the series while introducing past incarnations(Harley Quinn), Batman The Brave and the Bold, JLU...i could go on and on, but keep TMNT with these and less like classic nick toons who go more outrageous and slapstick.

As for what to put in the show? Everything! Dan posted a synopsis for Ultimate TMNT and it sounds perfect!
original TMNT
TMNT comic
Archie
Next Mutation
2k3
movie verse
Where they have to decide on is characters who appeared differently within the mythos. Shredder, Splinter,casey, april, Krang,Stockman, Karai, Leatherhead, Ratking would be the main ones.
Just because they introduce a character does not mean they need to have a huge role in the series, like in Avatar or JLU or Batman Brave and the Bold, some characters were reoccurring, while there were many important one shots. Yet, I wouldnt recommend a Tales series. Something more connected. Dragon King,Bishop, Winters, Tokka and Razzar, Armaggon can star in one episode while still getting respect.

As for characters, it does seem overwhelming that there are so many characters but I think it could work, season one introduces you to heroes and villians, the season fanalie or season 2 focusing on team ups really. TMNT has always been about family.

Id love for it to be treated like Wolverine and the X-men or JLU rather than the batman or Spectacular spider-man, we don't necessarily need origin stories for everyone.

Id like to see Ninjara, Venus, Klunk, Mutananimals, Fugitoid, Traximus, Leatherhead, Karai, Irma, Bishop, Tiger Lilly, Winters. It is a hard balance between paying tribute and copying.

[***The One True Shredder***]

Tiger Lilly? Don't you mean Lotus? Tiger Lilly is from Peter Pan... :tconfuse:

[CyberCubed]

They should really put Armaggon in it. He's one of my favorite mutants that never appeared outside the Archie run except for in Tournament Fighters for SNES.

C'mon, he's a shark mutant from the future, what's not to love?

[ToTheNines]

Stop making Mikey annoying. Yeah he's the "funny guy" but he's not a complete moron. Give the character some depth. He was quite mature in the comics.

Ka-boom! That's the biggest one for me.

[rayfillet101]

Tiger Lilly? Don't you mean Lotus? Tiger Lilly is from Peter Pan... :tconfuse:

haha yes, Lotus, i knew it was some type of flower

[Spitfire]

They should really put Armaggon in it. He's one of my favorite mutants that never appeared outside the Archie run except for in Tournament Fighters for SNES.

C'mon, he's a shark mutant from the future, what's not to love?

Another reason the X-men format would be killer. The future turtles and the present day turtles working from different time periods. That or just plain have episodes that take place int he future. The Archie future in general is wildly awesome and would make me orgasm in my pants if ever adapted to the screen.

[***The One True Shredder***]

The Archie future in general is wildly awesome and would make me orgasm in my pants if ever adapted to the screen.

Thank you for that image.

[odupianist]

Would you all still want Archie stuff if it's done in a different style? I doubt it'd be exactly like Allan's art, if they did it that is. Would it deter you from it?

[***The One True Shredder***]

Would you all still want Archie stuff if it's done in a different style? I doubt it'd be exactly like Allan's art, if they did it that is. Would it deter you from it?

It wouldn't deter me. Lawson did some of the art near the end, and Talbot inked it (Archie series). I always like seeing how different artists handle the same characters.

[Shred Head]

1. Hire these guys to work on the show Michael Dante DiMartino, Bryan Konietzko, Greg Johnson, Chris Yost and Craig Kyle. Oh and Sifu Kisu of the Harmonious Fist Chinese Athletic Association as a martial arts consultant just like he was on Avatar the Last Airbender.

2. Dump CGI I'm sure its not to late to change that direction. TV CGI just looks ugly and outside of Beast Wars and Reboot never works.

3. No goofy ass comedy like in the 80's. Why buy an action property and turn it into a comdey. Goofy slapstick is all over the network theres no point in spending money on something and turning it into the same thing thats on the network.

4. Use alot of elements from the Archie comic its pretty much the 80's toon but grown up and thats what this show needs to be. Not to mention you got tons of characters to use in the Archie comic that would also work well as toys. Hell if the show is popular you can give a spinoff maybe that Mutanimals spinoff could finally happen.

[moosandra]

All I really got to 'suggest' is... Don't Do CGI.

[The Stryker]

2. Dump CGI I'm sure its not to late to change that direction. TV CGI just looks ugly and outside of Beast Wars and Reboot never works.


Uh, Clone Wars?

[Cipher]

What do you think of a show with Alex Deligiannis (http://www.alexdeligiannis.com/) driving the art direction? He is already involved with Nick's The Fairly Oddparents (never seen it personally). Still, he has a great love for the property and provides an interesting and modern take on the Old Cartoon's style:
http://www.alexdeligiannis.com/search/label/TMNTWe could only hope to be that lucky. Those designs are awesome. Although really, unless they really step up the budget, any traditional animation is going to be better in action than CGI.

I mean, CGI can work. But I've never seen anything halfway decent come out of Nick.

Also, suggestion: If it's going to be a standard action cartoon, give the Turtles a respectable group of super villains. Throw in some Slash, some Viral, and some Complete Carnage if you have to.

[The Stryker]

We could only hope to be that lucky. Those designs are awesome. Although really, unless they really step up the budget, any traditional animation is going to be better in action than CGI.

I mean, CGI can work. But I've never seen anything halfway decent come out of Nick.

Have you seen Fanboy and Chum Chum?

[Koi]

Have you seen Fanboy and Chum Chum?

I love that show! And their are good/bad CGI in it.

[Oculus Orbus]

I would love it to be as "Mirage" as possible, but I guess that's never gonna happen.

If they decide to go with an OT style, then well, it's not what I'd like to see really, but it's just fine as long as they do it right, and don't make the Turtles too dumb. Please, keep the action.

It's been said here before, but I think that something like Spectacular Spiderman would be perfect. It works very well, and it would work with the Turtles. Just look at the action series that are being succesfully these days, and go that way. You can use some comedy, that's for sure, but don't let it ruin everything else.

And please, don't do it CGI. Just don't.

[Shred Head]

Uh, Clone Wars?

I dont count it thats not a good defense for CG since that show is not a represntation of the normal CG animated show. Its animated by ****ing LucasFilm with a budget that the turtles will be lucky to have half the size of. If it had what Clone Wars has I wouldn't have that much against it but I'm more then sure it wont.

Also Clone Wars is **** compared to the 2D minseries.

[Sage Ninja]

Here's some suggestions

1. Make it like "Wolverine and the X-men"

2. Base it loosely on the comics but don't jerk them off. Bad comic adaptations do no one any good.

3. Don't be afraid to pull from the old toon but don't go buck wild with the idea either. Turtles works as an action comedy, keep it that way.

4. CGI is horrible, avoid it.

5. Have character development. Also have storyline that connect and build to something. Villain of the week might sell toys but it will ward off any long term viewers.

6. Realize that making things "dark" does not make them good. The idea that something is "dark" and "gritty" sounds cool in concept but that doesn't add to the maturity of something. In fact often times it does the exact opposite or makes for laughably bad dialogue. Like when Leo was all "angry" in season 4.

7. Shredder is not the only villain. Kill him early or use him sparingly. He's a lot more interesting when he's not around every episode.

8. There's a huge stock pile of TMNT villains, use them. The last thing we need is someone inventing new and extremely unimaginative villains.

9. Stop making Mikey annoying. Yeah he's the "funny guy" but he's not a complete moron. Give the character some depth. He was quite mature in the comics.

10. Make it like "Wolverine and the X-men"

spitfire pretty much just covered all the bases for me, you hit all the points I wanted to make. Especially points 4. (no CGI) and 9. (stop making Mikey annoying). Thanks for saving me some typing.

I really, really can't stand CGI animnation I just think it looks so ugly even the best of the kind. Creatures some how manage to look decent, even cool at times, but I find human characters always look like ass in CGI. Wolverine and the X-Men has good hand drawn animation, I would to see that in a new series.

Also NO VENUS!!!!! I think I would very well stop watching this series if they pull off a fifth female turtle sh*t. Why do people want her. I find her the most irritating thing about Turtles past. She screws up everything about the turtles.

[Mona_Lisa]

I would like a mash of the 2k3 series with the 80s toon. I loved the original cartoon, but I’d like to see a little more action than the 80’s toon had. Longer plots would be nice too.
I don’t want ANYTHING from the Next Mutation in the new cartoon, Including Venus. Of course, I don’t mind the Idea of their being a female teenage mutant ninja Lizard or anything.:twink:
Archie plotlines would be cool as well.
And just as everyone else has said, NO CGI.

[ToTheNines]

Now, Laird isn't gonna be involved with this show, I probably don't have to worry about it... but NO FUC*ING SUPER HEROES!!!!

They just make me cringe in the NT and volume 4, they're soooo out of place.

[VaughnMichael]

I just hope we get some old characters back, creative mutants with personality (if they have them) unlike the 2k3 series, archie and mirage characters that have yet to see animation for yet, No cgi, and a good toy line backing this show maybe do one for kids and one for older fans sort of how they do for dcuc.

[CyberCubed]

If Leatherhead is used, I actually prefer he be a villain again. He doesn't need to act like old toon Leatherhead, but I kind of miss the fights TMNT and Leatherhead used to have.

2k3 Leatherhead was too much like Donatello, I actually prefer he be a villain again.

[TuЯco]

Archie comic characters would be cool and alot of one shot characters.

[Kendamu]

My list of suggestions.

1) It shouldn't be made immediately clear whether or not Splinter was Yoshi himself or Yoshi's pet. Make it a bit of a mystery that gets uncovered later on.

2) Mikey shouldn't be the laid-back writer of the comics or the ADD surfer dude of the children's materials. Instead, he should be a "normal 15-year-old" in that he likes video games, he tries to skip out on his responsibilities (Ninja training) to go have fun, he's constantly hungry (he's a growing boy), he likes popular music, and he likes to party. Sure, most teens love pizza so pizza isn't taboo here. Sure, most teens love to party so being the "party dude" isn't taboo. He just doesn't need to be stupid or ADD.

3) Raphael doesn't necessarily need to be OT Raph or Wolverine. He can be cynical, sarcastic, and witty and he can have his rivalry with Leonardo, but it doesn't have to be this epic "GRRRRRRRR RAPH ANGRY" bit, either. Like a normal 15-year-old boy he thinks he knows better than anyone else, he leaps before he looks, he thinks he's invincible, and he gets in over his head a lot. Also, instead of making Raph and Leo rival each other in a way that always turns into a heated epic battle or a super serious argument, how about making their rivalry more anime-esque in that they're rivals, but they're friends. They live to out-do each other and to push each other forward rather than Raph being jealous of Leo's leadership role and whatnot.

4) Social networking, linking consoles and handhelds, downloading podcasts... these kinds of things are stuff normal teens know about and know how to do. Please do not make the other Turtles computer illiterate. Don "does machines" for sure, though. That means he'll obviously still be a great engineer, hacker, and computer programmer but that doesn't mean that the other Turtles should be completely technologically stupid.

5) Mix the OT and first movie/Mirage origins together for Splinter and Shredder. Saki is jealous of Yoshi because of Tang Shen, so Saki frames Yoshi. Ta-daaa! Kid friendly, takes from the 80s toon, and takes from the original Mirage comics!

6) The Technodrome will likely be used, but it shouldn't be the main base of the bad guys. It should be treated more like some sort of ultimate mobile battle station that's being built throughout the first season. Maybe it could take hints from the final part of the first TMNT game on NES. There's Shredder's compound and then there's the Technodrome.

7) Foot Ninja should be robots. It should be pretty easy to tell that they're robots, too. That way, when Leonardo decides to use his swords, he can cut through the Foot Soldiers in a kids' show.

8) Ninjas use Ninjutsu.... not just Karate and Kobudo. If they come across a duo of super strong mutants who are packin' some heavy firepower that happen to be a rhino and a warthog, maybe slapstick isn't going to stop them and maybe a straight-forward fight isn't, either. Keeping out of sight, outsmarting them, and improvising (like the first season of the OT) should be how they're taken down. Also, rather than using these super strong mutants every episode, maybe you can bring 'em in once in awhile like Hun was so that each encounter can be epic and each time they're taken down it can be very creatively executed.

9) Baxter should start out like he did in the Mirage comics and 2k3 but eventually become a fly. He also shouldn't go completely insane right away. Maybe keep him around for awhile as a fly still working for Shredder, but have him eventually break out on his own once he works up the guts to do so.

That's about all I can think of off the top of my head for an incarnation of the Turtles that's mainly inspired by the OT but has elements of 2k3 and the comics snuck into it.

[ryukenden]

Serious martial arts fighting during battles. Everything else can be slapstick, just not in fights.

[Powder]

Goongasnatch said it best.

My only words to be noted, as many before me have said, NO CGI DAMNIT.

[Koi]

This place is so split with what it wants, I highly doubt that the people creating the movie will be able to appeal to both sides of TMNT fans. One side wants macho turtles fights and to be reminiscent to their comics, the other side enjoyed their technodromes and slapstick and reminiscent to their older cartoons.

But their does seem to be some things you both agree on and that is Mikey's off the wall retarded, and adolescent mind.

I just want something new that hasn't been explored and already done in the past TMNT universes. I don't care whichever way they take as well as it is well written and appealing to anyone, not just TMNT fans. I want something enjoyable to watch and not something just to bring up nostalgia. Something new and refreshing to the franchise to end on till Nick brings their cartoon into play.

But that is just my opinion that I would love to happen, but I am afraid they will attempt to do something new and completely horribly written with big booms like a Michael Bay movie, ugh.

[ToTheNines]

Something new and refreshing to the franchise to end on till Nick brings their cartoon into play.

Well it looks like the two are gonna debut around the same time, and this thread's for the cartoon anyways.

[Koi]

Well it looks like the two are gonna debut around the same time, and this thread's for the cartoon anyways.

Oh..... crud. >///<

[Redeemer]

Here is what I would like to see.

1. A main plot line with developing characters. (something like getting vengence for splinter by killing shredder then evolving from there.)
2. 80s villians
3. Dark styling
4.Human shredder,preferably comic like shredder !!!
5. Needs Krang in the series!
6.2k3 turtles (physics) Mikey be comical, but not an complete goofball. Like in the first movie preferably.
7. Not 80's style Casey. More 2k3 like.
8. April, I liked both.
9. The foot (humans), but I wouldn't mind robot foot either or both.
10. 2k3 style fighting.
11. I would like to see a tough guy slash. As well as other mutants.
12.No freakn superheroes, like in 2k3, didn't mind bug man bc he wasnt invinceable like silver idiot.

Thats what I think, i will coment more if I can think of anything

[Powder]

The LAST thing we need is a 2k3 style casey. Nor do we need the OT casey. Comic/movie casey is the win.

[Kendamu]

I'd like it if Casey were like OT Casey when out fighting crime, but were more like 1st movie Casey when just chilling out... like he's trying to be a low-budget Batman or something.

[Candy Kappa]

I'd love to have Shredder similar in the 2k3 beginning, being more in the background, a menacing crime boss and have very few real encounters with the shredder persona.

[ToTheNines]

Paulsen = Raph
Clarke = Leo :)

[Redeemer]

Yeah ur right first movie casey would be better, I forgot like an idiot. And I call myself a turtle fan. lol
I would like to see comic book shredder he is awesome, but I like 2k3's costume.

[Candy Kappa]

the thought about the CGI keeps me tip toed, low budget CGI looks so amateurish, seen better done in first year of 3D design. horrible textures, bad rigging and crappy render.

[Redeemer]

I am jst wondering if Nick is going to Take TMNT seriously and not jst live off the hype. I am curious will they give TMNT a good budget? Does anyone know?

[TrueDude]

I'm hoping that the new show will be like the old 80's toon with a more developed story like the 2003 series. Also, having it take place after Turtles Forever and with the upgraded Technodrome! :D

[ToTheNines]

If Vernon is in this show, make him like a Kenny character.

Obviously he's not gonna die, but having him get injured all the time would be funny (even if it was in a cartoonish manner).

[TMNachoT]

If we are going to see a more mature toon, it would be cool if it continues with the 2k3 universe. Having the 2k3 serie already, it doesn´t make sense to have another toon with the same tone.

Regarding the cgi thing, i don´t like it, nothing on tv made with cgi is good, IMO.

[Powder]

If we are going to see a more mature toon, it would be cool if it continues with the 2k3 universe. Having the 2k3 serie already, it doesn´t make sense to have another toon with the same tone.

Regarding the cgi thing, i don´t like it, nothing on tv made with cgi is good, IMO.



I totally disagree with the first statement. That'd be like saying 2k3 shouldnt have been dark because thats what the comics were for etc. Anytime a new turtles universe is opened its like the biggest christmas morning for every turtle fan... though sometimes we do get socks (if you dudes get what I mean).

CGI...

I think everyone here hates it. I wonder what the majority of kids these days think? I guess thats what they like since thats what they're growing up on but one can't be sure without seeing the demographics. As for me, if I never see another computer generated turtle outside of a video game I'd be happy as shell.

See what I did there?

[TheCanadiandrome]

I'm hoping that the new show will be like the old 80's toon with a more developed story like the 2003 series. Also, having it take place after Turtles Forever and with the upgraded Technodrome! :D

i'd like that

[Toon]

You really think anyone from Nick is reading this thread?

...Yes.


:tcool:

[TheCanadiandrome]

what i think they need to do & have with this series is this,

1) it needs to have a broad appeal to all TMNT aspects & fans. cause not all TMNT fans like all aspects of TMNT equally.

2) must have familiar characters, and if there must be new characters, for the love of all things holy, make them make sense!

3) familiar aspects & elements. take the TMNT Turtles Forever route and borrow from all genres & sub-genres. don't make crap up that don't fit with TMNT (ie: fifth or sixth Turtles!)

that's my take any way

[CrazySquirrel]

So I am going to make an educated guess that Toon is lucky enough to be working on the new show but isn't allowed to say anything about it...

I really hope I'm right cause the Krang Bebop Rocksteady and Casey drawings on his site are sick and so is that Don... If that's the design direction of the Nick show I am so psyched...

[Venom]

If you've ever visited his site you'd have seen it right in his "About Me" profile. :trazz:

[Redeemer]

So I am going to make an educated guess that Toon is lucky enough to be working on the new show but isn't allowed to say anything about it...

I really hope I'm right cause the Krang Bebop Rocksteady and Casey drawings on his site are sick and so is that Don... If that's the design direction of the Nick show I am so psyched...

Oh please good Lord no! Awesome drawing skill, but hate the design. Don looks to small and feeble. I pray to God u guys make them like the 2k3 turtle design.

[Redeemer]

...Yes.


:tcool:


Hey man Love ur talent this is my honest opinion.
I love the KC and rocksteady for the most part.

Krang is interesting but lacks propotion and I jst dont like it.

I do not like Don as I said b4 he is to feeble and weak looking

[turtlelife]

Well my thoughts on the new toon are the same as they have always been. A darker edgier 2k3/mirage style, mixing characters from all TMNT universes. I think the 2k3 series had a great balance of humor and action, along with many other things. But the OT had such great characters and I missed that. And yes I mean from the toy line too, update these characters and bring them in, I'd love to see Hot Spot or even Walkabout show up. As long as the story was still good, I'd geek out for any of those characters, I'll admit it.

My biggest wish though is for characters from Archie to show up. Maybe even use a plotline bringing the Mutanimals into it. I still feel ripped off after learning we were so close to a Mutanimals cartoon back then, I would still love to see it. And do I really need to even mention Ninjara?

As for Toon's art, I like it. Animation has been going that way for years, and it's better than a lot of other animation out there. I do agree though with redeemer in saying that Krang is out of proportion. But I don't know what his background is in this series yet. If he is an Utrom, then yes he's too small. But if he has the same origin as the OT, I guess him being so small is in proportion to the size of a brain. Wow I even confused myself there, hopefully someone understood. Either way I love the newer take on the robot body.

I love Bebop and Rocksteady though, and if that's how they showed up in the new toon I'd be stoked. The Raph sketch he has on his blog is awesome too, and I don't even really like Raph. And finally that Casey is a beast! That is the Casey I want in the new toon for sure. Great work toon, and of you are involved in the series, I feel a lot better about it already.

[Spitfire]

I doubt any of those drawings are for anything but fun on his page. Most of those were being worked on in 2008 before even Laird knew the buy out was going to happen.

Honestly if I had to choose between that and CGI I'd take that. Krang is really the only design I don't like.

[turtlelife]

I doubt any of those drawings are for anything but fun on his page. Most of those were being worked on in 2008 before even Laird knew the buy out was going to happen.

Honestly if I had to choose between that and CGI I'd take that. Krang is really the only design I don't like.

Well I'm in the same boat, even though the 4th movie CGI was done well enough for me to enjoy, no CGI for me on Saturday mornings.

But when it comes to Toon's art, sure most of it is older, but he may have been asked to draw them as ideas when Nick was just thinking about buying TMNT. It's all speculation of course, and even if he is working on the series, I bet he can't tell us straight out. I think that's the closest we've gotten to anything from Nick at all about the new cartoon, though. At least he works there, so it's something....

[discordiatookie]

I totally disagree with the first statement. That'd be like saying 2k3 shouldnt have been dark because thats what the comics were for etc. Anytime a new turtles universe is opened its like the biggest christmas morning for every turtle fan... though sometimes we do get socks (if you dudes get what I mean).


The thing i've found about that is, when you don't get socks at christmas you kinda miss it.

Heh, and I love that nutso Krang from Alex D...

As for what comes next, i'd be happy enough with a mad 'Ultimate' kind of mix. Take the best of everything and throw it in there. Preferably not CGI, and preferably with totally new designs - none of this rehashing old designs, etc.

[Candy Kappa]

It's a simple model I made almost 2 years ago, gonna make a new one as soon my finals and interview with the new school is over.
relaxed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fatoD6GxOAU)
posing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4qS3HMJPdA)

Viacom! Hire me!!

[Turo602]

It'll be cool if this just picked up this idea. I was always curious on how this show would turn out.

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/warner/warner.html

[Peanut]

It'll be cool if this just picked up this idea. I was always curious on how this show would turn out.

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/warner/warner.html

Outside of the design for the Turtles, I think every design to do with that project looks like ass.

On-Topic. OT style - episodic nature - overly goofy bullsh*t + Mirage style Turtle design.

[Turo602]

The TMNT looked decent to me but Splinter, April, Casey, and Shredder looked like trash. But lets hope Nickelodeon doesn't screw up. I'm not to fond on the CGI thing.

[TMNT_Guy]

I hate to be the wet blanket here, but you all may be blowing your chances of any of your suggestions being taken.

On the creator of Earthworm Jim's forum, you are not allowed to post ideas or suggestions for the new game. Why? This is why:
http://tennapel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9587
Just a reminder for the new people, this is a forum that Doug hosts and visits. In order to protect his work and not expose himself to claims of IP theft he has requested that no suggestions for new game content be posted. The consequence id a perma-ban from this site, deletion of your post and the reality that your idea will never be in the game.

Make of that as you will.

Also, unless Pixar is working on it, NO CG. Please.

[CyberCubed]

Its pretty obvious nobody at Nick is reading this thread anyway. This is more of a "wishlist" thread, rather than something we expect to happen.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Well, being a fan of the old series, here's what I'd hve like to seen.... mind you this are just some ideas....

Since the 2K3 Series - a sort-of adaptation of the old mirage series- is still fresh in people's memories, I'd shy away from those characters for the first two or three seasons(excepting April and Casey). Concentrate on the older characters from the original cartoon, toyline, and Archie comics series.

For the series structure, set it up similar to the CN series "Batman: the Brave and the bold", only more serious (emphasis on the "more serious"). Every week would feature a team-up with diffrent Turtles 'mutant' ally; Ray Fillet, Ace Duck, Mondo Gecko, Mona Lisa, Walkabout, and the punk frogs (as arrogant rivals of the Turtles instead of straight-up friends).

Enimies would go beyond the Shredder, his lackeys Rocksteady and Bebop, and the foot. They would include the Rat King (exremist who believes humans should be extiguished in favor of Rats) Leatherhead (Cajun gator mutant who works as a bounty hunter for the highest bidder), mutagen man, Scumbug, Slash, Pizzaface, and a host of the other TMNT toy characters who never got to see the light of day in any medium.

It could be very well written, and would have an enormus ponential for character development, and interaction for the Turtles with many diffrent kinds of characters. Plus, Playmates would have a gold mine in releasing all those characters as figures. I know many people would want "just the turtles, and a few guest stars", but didn't we already have that with the 4 Kids series? It gets kind of boring after awhile.

Anyway, these are my ideas on the nick series.... feel free to agree or disagree.


Your Kahn decrees it!

[Powder]

Lol you just described the original toon...

[Mutated Turtle]

Its pretty obvious nobody at Nick is reading this thread anyway. This is more of a "wishlist" thread, rather than something we expect to happen.

True.But no one realizes that.:roll::trolleye:

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Lol you just described the original toon...

Not entirely. I was thinking of a more serious take (not counting the 'red sky' episodes) and leaving out the over-the-top silliness, like Brune and Vernon getting Kidnapped by Alien Elvises.

And besides, many cool characters from the toyline never got thier shot in the old show. (Ace duck-The TV cameo doesn't count!-, or Pizzaface) or were one-shot jokes that had more potential. (Mutagen man, Muckman) I was thinking of a show developing those characters more than that.... but it's probably just wishful thinking on my part.



Your Kahn decrees it!

[Voidoid]

My only "suggestion" is that they don't screw up.

Oh, and leave that asshole Venus buried in the ground where she belongs.

[***The One True Shredder***]

I was thinking of a show developing those characters more than that.... but it's probably just wishful thinking on my part.

Most of the time it is wishful thinking when it comes to TMNT...but I was pretty impressed with the last cartoon, even if some people weren't. There really is no "pefect TMNT universe." Several of them come close though.

[Dragon Turtle]

With Playmates still involved, I wouldn't be surprise to see a push for "Ultimate TMNT" again. Better to just cherry pick a few elements from of each of the past TMNT incarnations, and then strike out into new territory.

[U2WaTCHer]

so does anyone know what time and date this new show is going to start on toonnick? I used to check a thread in new tmnt 4kids section but found this. Just looking for a update :)

[Powder]

so does anyone know what time and date this new show is going to start on toonnick? I used to check a thread in new tmnt 4kids section but found this. Just looking for a update :)

Uh, buddy, this 'new show' isn't airing until 2012. :trazz:

I think you've gotten a few things mixed up.

Sometime in august is when the 2K3 toon airs on toon nick, not the actual new one just yet.

As far as I can tell, that show will be on the real nickolodeon station.

[U2WaTCHer]

Thanks I knew some tmnt show was coming soon. Will the original toon air with this 4kids one on regular nick or toonnick

[Powder]

Thanks I knew some tmnt show was coming soon. Will the original toon air with this 4kids one on regular nick or toonnick

Well, as it stands right now, we don't know if it will at all. The rights situation is a little confusing to most of us so we don't exactly know what the circumstances are with Fred Wolf & the gang.

Hopefully, it will get put back on the air... I don't think its impossible & I have hopes that it would get a good bit of a attention.

[The Big Bad]

Putting aside the fact that I think 2012 is too early for a third series, here are my thoughts:

1) No Venus or any other sort of female turtle.

2) A new aesthetic. The looks for both existing cartoons are very of their time, and drastically different from each other. I would like a new toon to forge its own path, with something we haven't seen before. A hyper-stylized character designer like Deligiannis or Sean "Cheeks" Galloway ("The Spectacular Spider-Man") would be excellent.

3) (Relatively) Identical-looking turtles. Stuff like Galloway's take on the turtles (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/132/e/b/TMNT_by_cheeks_74.jpg) may look great, and are certainly interesting--but they're not the turtles. Having the turtles looks be nondescript--in the sense that you can't tell what their personalities are supposed to be like if you have them standing neutrally--is part of the appeal of the series. If you're going to differentiate, then I prefer something subtle, like the way the fourth movie did it.

4) Lighter tone + action. Even if the new turtles harken back to their original cartoon incarnations (which would be my personal preference) that doesn't mean the action has to replicate the old toon's. We've seen what american storyboarders and directors can do when it comes to action in cartoons like Teen Titans, Avatar, Spectacular Spider-Man, and, in a different way, in the 2003 cartoon. Bring it. By the time the series ends, I want someone to be able to make a video like this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVSJ668VcNY&playnext_from=TL&videos=WtRG63i2I54).

5) Funny doesn't need to mean stupid. We don't need to see Raph not knowing what a "capful" means, Mikey not knowing how to cook a pizza, or Don using a wrench as a hammer.


6) Bebop and Rocksteady are idiots:While this sort of contradicts the previous point, I stand by both. I've never understood the appeal of an "intelligent" Bebop and Rocksteady, and believe that changing them in that manner would eliminate the entire point. This doesn't mean that they can't be effective or that they have to be made submental, but they can't be criminal masterminds either.

I would also prefer that they be doing their own thing, instead of being so tied up other villains.

7) New voices: One of the things I really appreciated about Turtles Forever was that the producers took the trouble to create an entirely new sound for the Mirage turtles. I want the same thing to be done with the new series.

8) The franchise has a crapload of characters--use them: While I applaud the 2003 toon's decision not to use any of the established non-Mirage characters, I'd like the new toon to go in the opposite direction. You want to write in a human Foot Clan? Why not include Tatsu, Hun, Pimiko (in a less ridiculous costume), Cha Ocho, Karai, Yukio Mashimi, Oroku Nagi, and Khan? They're, there, they're available.

9) Feel free to create new characters: Part of the reason the franchise is the way it is is because every different writer and incarnation has brought something new to the table--I want to see their Krang or Hun--characters that the will be considered as intergral part of the property ten years from now.

10) Feel free to play around with established characters:Back in 1986, nobody thought that April as a reporter would work as well as it did. If a change feels natural or if you feel it helps you tell a better story, do it.

11) Surprise me.

[Sage Ninja]

7) New voices: One of the things I really appreciated about Turtles Forever was that the producers took the trouble to create an entirely new sound for the Mirage turtles. I want the same thing to be done with the new series

...doesn't every new series get new voices for their series?

[The Big Bad]

Yes--I should have been clearer. What I mean is that I fear that, depending on how closely they want to stick to any of the established incarnations, we might end up getting voices that sound more or less familiar. What I don't want is a Raph that consciously tries to sound like Josh Pais, Rob Paulsen, Frank Frankson, or Sean Schemmel--I want something new.

[TheCanadiandrome]

make this movie good, and make the toy line good as well

[Candy Kappa]

not so much about the show, but make playmates make action figures that can compete with NECA's figure in sculpt, articulation and be sturdy for child play

Or get mattel to do this they've done good with the MOTUC and DCU
Or Hasbro and get TMNT figures in Marvel legends quality

a MOTUC-esque TMNT would be awesome, creating figures from every incarnation

[Powder]

Those "Galloway" turtles are horribly stupid.

[The Shelf]

*snip*

4) Lighter tone + action. Even if the new turtles harken back to their original cartoon incarnations (which would be my personal preference) that doesn't mean the action has to replicate the old toon's. We've seen what american storyboarders and directors can do when it comes to action in cartoons like Teen Titans, Avatar, Spectacular Spider-Man, and, in a different way, in the 2003 cartoon. Bring it. By the time the series ends, I want someone to be able to make a video like this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVSJ668VcNY&playnext_from=TL&videos=WtRG63i2I54).

*snip*

I agree with practically everything you said in this post, but I just have to say that Avatar video was soooo awesome. I'd love to see a TMNT toon with action scenes that cool. :)

[TheCanadiandrome]

not so much about the show, but make playmates make action figures that can compete with NECA's figure in sculpt, articulation and be sturdy for child play

Or get mattel to do this they've done good with the MOTUC and DCU
Or Hasbro and get TMNT figures in Marvel legends quality

a MOTUC-esque TMNT would be awesome, creating figures from every incarnation

hey those would be cool

[Candy Kappa]

hey those would be cool

yeah, a other idea could be that the turtles could have changeable heads from comic to toon masks and changeable belts getting set with letter buckles and with obi knot.

[TheCanadiandrome]

yeah, a other idea could be that the turtles could have changeable heads from comic to toon masks and changeable belts getting set with letter buckles and with obi knot.
man u should go into designing, you gots good ideas

[Koi]

Those "Galloway" turtles are horribly stupid.

They look slightly not right, but I am kinda infatuated with the designs of the feet and the foot.... kind of.

[Shred87]

I was reading through here and I didn't realize that this series was going to be CGI..I was under the impression that the new movie was going to have hybrid CGI/human turtles. I didnt know the show was also going to be. If this show is going to go the CG route I must say I'm very hesistant about what were going to end up with. I remember hearing a while ago that a CGI series was coming. Is Nick looking to unbury this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXSRMZbfMfg

[TheCanadiandrome]

I was reading through here and I didn't realize that this series was going to be CGI..I was under the impression that the new movie was going to have hybrid CGI/human turtles. I didnt know the show was also going to be. If this show is going to go the CG route I must say I'm very hesistant about what were going to end up with. I remember hearing a while ago that a CGI series was coming. Is Nick looking to unbury this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXSRMZbfMfg

oh man, i hope not, that looks like ass! imho. please not CGI!

[Rise1184]

Sounds like an interesting discussion. Hopefully we can get together, maturely as fans, and try to come up with something cool for the new series (If any)

[Rise1184]

I was reading through here and I didn't realize that this series was going to be CGI..I was under the impression that the new movie was going to have hybrid CGI/human turtles. I didnt know the show was also going to be. If this show is going to go the CG route I must say I'm very hesistant about what were going to end up with. I remember hearing a while ago that a CGI series was coming. Is Nick looking to unbury this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXSRMZbfMfg

Yikes! Really? If anything, they should just start from scratch. Well, I guess will have to see..

[U2WaTCHer]

please no CGI :(

[sdp]

The CG in the 2007 movie was really good, the show won't be out until 2012, its very likely that the CG is going to be near the 2007 movie in quality.

[Rise1184]

The CG in the 2007 movie was really good, the show won't be out until 2012, its very likely that the CG is going to be near the 2007 movie in quality.

True.. The quality will definitely be much more advanced by than.

[TheCanadiandrome]

The CG in the 2007 movie was really good, the show won't be out until 2012, its very likely that the CG is going to be near the 2007 movie in quality.

meh, to me CGI just doesn't fit the Turtles

[Master Splinter]

meh, to me CGI just doesn't fit the Turtles

Not sure if this has been posted but it appears Alex Deligiannis will be working on the new TMNT series...

http://www.alexdeligiannis.com/2010/07/going-green.html

-ms

[TheCanadiandrome]

no idea who that is, but cool

[Slap-Happy]

Those "Galloway" turtles are horribly stupid.
I think the turtle art he did for Nintendo Power for Smash Up was really good. His recent designs where each turtle had a foot equivelant, not as much.

[Shredder_Fan]

What I Like/Want:

- Old toon characters and villains returning
- The original Technodrome (underground or at Dimension X)
- Show being more similar in tone to the original series
- 2k3 characters like Hun and Bishop appearing
- Archie and/or Mirage plotlines being adapted

Music in new show:

- The original Technodrome theme (just like in the old cartoon)




What I do NOT want:

- Shredder must be human, NO F**** utrom
- Slapstick kiddie series. Let's face it, this is going to be CG, which makes us all worried. The original TMNT cartoon always had an adventure/action element to it, even if the plots were silly. That's what kept it a fun watch.

[ZariusTwo]

Something similar to how Avatar: The Last Airbender handled itself in regards to a balance of humour and action, as well as a clear interest in acknowledging and pleasing it's fanbase

[Seurat]

All right, here's my two cents.

Personally, I don't want to see yet another Turtleverse built from scratch. We've already got the original comic, Archie comic, 80's toon, 90's toon, Next Mutation, the original movie trilogy, the TMNT movie*, an anime or two, and a slew of fanfics. I think we've got plenty. I think they should build upon what's already been established. The way I see it, there are two possibilities that could prove particularly entertaining and successful.

1. Continue the OT. This could be a risky venture for Nickelodeon, as to not pay proper homage to the original cartoon would incur fans' wrath, but to keep it too corny and reliant on in-jokes could dissuade younger viewers. It could go well if Nick decides to air the original toon in addition to developing new episodes. Personally, I'd like to see a "happy medium" between the slapsticky turtles of the first several seasons and the darker, actiony turtles of the "red sky" era, which might result in something much like the first season of the series (Which was animated by Toei, and - given their experience animating action sequences - might explain why the first eps had the best fights in the series). The risk of screwing this up is high, but the payoff could work equally well.

2. Continue the TMNT movie. This is probably the most likely to happen, as Nick wants to do a CGI cartoon, and that movie gives them character models to work from. The movie left us with many unanswered questions (Several due to irritating plot holes), so perhaps a series could fill in the gaps. Regardless of whether or not you consider TMNT a continuation of the original movie trilogy*, it's clear that these turtles have more to their story, and they've seen the fewest battles (Or perhaps we've just seen the fewest battles with them) of any Turtle continuity. This continuity provides us with a lot of blank canvas to work with.


*I'm aware that many people consider TMNT to be a continuation of the trilogy, as Splinter's "trophy room" showed relics from the first three films, and others consider it a different continuity, as we saw both CGI and "Henson suit" turtles in Turtles Forever. Let's not split hairs for now.

[Jester]

What of the TMNT anthology series that was pitched as a follow up to Fast Forward?

[TheCanadiandrome]

What I Like/Want:

- Old toon characters and villains returning
- The original Technodrome (underground or at Dimension X)
- Show being more similar in tone to the original series
- 2k3 characters like Hun and Bishop appearing
- Archie and/or Mirage plotlines being adapted

Music in new show:

- The original Technodrome theme (just like in the old cartoon)


What I do NOT want:

- Shredder must be human, NO F**** utrom
- Slapstick kiddie series. Let's face it, this is going to be CG, which makes us all worried. The original TMNT cartoon always had an adventure/action element to it, even if the plots were silly. That's what kept it a fun watch.


lol, wow. u don't mix words :tlol:

[Prowler]

- Bring back the following OT characters: Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady, Leatherhead, The Rat King, Slash. Change their origins and don't make Slash a retard and make Bebop and Rocksteady more threatening like in the first season of the OT.
- Bring back the Technodrome.
- Bring back the Rock Soldiers and pit them against the Turtles.
- Put Hun and the Purple Dragons in the show.
- Don't make Shredder and Krang allies since the beggining.
- Don't make Leonardo annoying like he was in the OT.
- Don't make Michelangelo so stupid like he was in the 4Kids series.
- Don't make Casey Jones so stupid and getting his *** handed to him all the time like in the 4kids Toon after season 2.
- Don't bring back the Neutrinos.
- Don't bring back Zach.
- Put human Foot Soldiers and add variety like the 4Kids series had the Invisible Foot, the Elite, etc. And make the Turtles fight them once in a while, in the OT they barely fought them.
- Don't, and I repeat, DON'T bring back Howie!
- Make it a mix of the OT and the 4Kids series.
- NO CGI!
- Put Utroms in the show and make Krang a traitor of their homeworld or something lilke that.
- Let the Turtles use their weapons, one of my biggest gripes with the OT is that the Turtles only used them in seasons 1 and 7.
- Treat the franchise with respect and dignity.

That's all I can think of for now.

[Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle]

Can they even bring back OT characters or does Fred Wolf own them?

[CyberCubed]

Can they even bring back OT characters or does Fred Wolf own them?

Mirage owned all the original series characters, not Fred Wolf. They simply own the animation/series of the old toon, but not the characters itself.

Since Nick now owns the franchise, Nick also can use any original cartoon character they want.

[sdp]

I guess we can expect the new show to be 20 episodes per season/year.

This is the way other Nick shows like Avatar, icarly and Spongebob are done and apparently Nick is forcing it on Power Rangers that traditionally gets 40 episodes per season/year theme and is now going to be split into two 20 episode seasons over two years of one yearly theme. I'm guessing TMNT will get the same treatment, now for a show like TMNT its actually a good thing, normally cartoons only get 13 episode seasons, 4Kids spoiled us with 26 episode seasons.

[CyberCubed]

20 ep seasons are only 6 episode less than most 4kids seasons were, so I see no problem.

As long as the show gets at least 150 episodes by the time it ends, I'll be fine with it.

Any TMNT cartoon is a failure if it doesn't hit the 150 mark, like the previous two did.

[sdp]

Well that would mean the show would have to be on the air for 8 years, which is scary since I'd be 30! It seems like a really long time for a show to run, even the 4kids show didn't last that long. I can see it lasting for 4-5 years, 80-100 episode run is really good, even ~60 would leave me happy. 20-40 episode run would indeed be seen as a short lived.

edit:
Alex Deligiannis just tweeted this:

Came in to studio for a bit to keep mind occupied. Looking over some storyboard panels for the pilot. Almost like having a new TMNT comic.

[CyberCubed]

Makes me wonder what the tone of the series will be. A mix between the original cartoon and 2k3 would be fine, kind of like the Archie series was.

[Venom]

What if, what if - now hear me out here - what if, Shredder and Krang were from two opposing factions but after encountering the Turtles on a number of occasions the two decided to form a truce of sorts and form and alliance to destroy those meddlesome reptiles! :P

[aml435]

I think my ideal timeline for season 1 would start off very minimal, but introduce a lot of the things we expect throughout the season.
Start off with the turtles stopping the crimes of the Purple Dragons, crossing paths with Casey Jones and April, and eventually a few episodes in, foiling the machinations of Baxter Stockman.
Throughout those episodes, establish Oroku Saki as a sort of billionaire industrialist, who is well liked and respected in New York. Kind of a Bill Gates, Steve Jobs type.
April is back to being a reporter, like the OT, and is trying to find dirt to bring down Saki.
The turtles & April discover links Baxter Stockman's schemes to Saki's corporate empire and uncover his criminal ties to the Foot Clan.
I think it would be interesting to make Saki a publicly known & respected figure, like they hinted at a bit in the 2K3 show, to make it harder for the turtles to take the fight straight to him.
Have some episodes with the turtles clashing with the purple dragons & the foot & fleshing out the backstory between Splinter & Shredder.
Hun leads up the Purple Dragons, recruiting thugs who may one day be trained as foot ninja. Tatsu trains the best of them to be Foot soldiers/ninja. Bebop and Rocksteady would be human Purple Dragons with a line here or there, but not really focused on at first.
Eventually, the turtles discover something beneath Saki's highrise - the Technodrome. It turns out that Saki has used Krang's utrom technology (might as well make Krang an Utrom) to build his commercial empire.
Credit much of our modern tech that we take for granted as having come from the Utroms and marketed by Saki.
After foiling several of the Shredder's criminal plans, he uses Krang's technology to mutate 2 of the purple dragon's into creatures to rid him of the turtles. They become the Bebop & Rocksteady we know from the 80's, but bigger, more hulking, and somewhat competent.... but still a little bumbling for comic relief.
I figure that the above could probably fill a whole season with the Krang/Technodrome reveal, and Bebop & Rocksteady mutation and first confrontation playing out over a 2-3 parter at the end of the season.

I would also run a thread through Season 1 of Stockman being punished for failures like 03, but instead of getting down to Head-attached-to-spider-walker or anything like that, after several physical punishments & tortures, Shredder has Krang mutate Baxter into the Fly from the 80s... probably in Season 2.

[Oniri]

I think character wise, I would focus on who were in the comics for the first season (April, Casey, Baxter, etc). A human shredder would be greatly preferred.

I love Bebop, Slash and Rocksteady to pieces, but I wouldn't have them in the show in less they can figure out a constructive way for them to be hanging around. I love the "Dumb and dumber" duo in the OT, but depending on the feel of the new show it and how far they take it, it can get old REAL quick (kinda like 2K3 Mikey in later seasons). I think it would be cool to them as more legit villians/henchmen. Maybe not as important as Baxter, but some important muscle kinda like Hun was in 2K3 and Tales of TMNT.

[Berserker]

I would like a future Bebop & Rocksteady to actually be their own faction. They would be like Hun and the Purple Dragons; street smart but not book smart, brutish criminals who lead a street gang. Maybe other misfit mutants would join them along the way.
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[***The One True Shredder***]

I would like a future Bebop & Rocksteady to actually be their own faction. They would be like Hun and the Purple Dragons; street smart but not book smart, brutish criminals who lead a street gang. Maybe other misfit mutants would join them along the way.

I kind of like this idea even if it seems obvious to me.

[Spitfire]

Why do people keep saying "A human Shredder." Shredder was human in 2K3. Yes the MAIN Shredder wasn't human but there was a human Shredder. I also never took issue with Chrell because it let them dismember his body without pissing off the censors.

Also note Shredder was only human in the first issue of the comics.

[Alex]

I would like a future Bebop & Rocksteady to actually be their own faction. They would be like Hun and the Purple Dragons; street smart but not book smart, brutish criminals who lead a street gang. Maybe other misfit mutants would join them along the way.
I kind of like this idea even if it seems obvious to me.
I like that idea too.

[Utromshredderhater]

I think the new show has to be a good blend of the OT, Archie comic, and a little bit of the Mirage comic. April should be a reporter because she's a bit more useful that way. It might be a good idea to team Bebop and Rocksteady with Tokka and Rahzar so that way it's 4 on 4. I wouldn't mind them digging out Keno again

[KittenBunny]

I hope they do a pretty big or at least a noticeable change to the Turtles and the other character's design...

For instance the Next Mutation turtles were given a pretty rad revamp... new specialised and individualistic duds and bigger muscles, more natural body armor on the plastron and a different shell...

I know not everyone was a fan of these new revamps, however, I really appreciated their initiative in trying to make something new and more unique about each of them.

I don't mean they have to change them too much or add some silly 5th turtle, but some more protection for battle would be good and also individualistic bandannas would be really very much appreciated.

I also hope they bring back their tails, not necessarily the same tiny lined tales from the mirage series, but maybe something a bit more visually appealing and similar to turtles in real life, sort of like a really tiny lizard tail? I thought the tails on the turtles made them look much more mean and macho. An artist on deviant art, i think she is called Alier, does a really good tail style.

and I second that SHREDDER MUST BE HUMAN! It was such a let down that he ended up being an Ultrom, like a Krang wannabe really...

Also, no mystical powers bullsh*t for the turtles, just plain old Kung Fu Fighting!

Disclaimer* these are only my ideas on what would look good on a new turtle design. In no ways am I saying that the past turtles styles from any of the comics/series were not at all good enough and therefore have to be changed... I just love seeing new designs!

KBxxx

[cryan]

Also,NO ANIMIE STYLE.If they do bring back certain characters from the OT.I would love to see them updated.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Also,NO ANIMIE STYLE.If they do bring back certain characters from the OT.I would love to see them updated.

I'm assuming you mean 'Anime' style, and I hope that means you weren't too fond of the original 2K3 designs either, cuz they were kind of anime-esque in terms of detail. ^_^;

I'm gonna also agree with Kitten on some of that - if there was one thing I DID really like in Next Mutation, it was the individualized masks. I wouldn't mind seeing that make a comeback somewhere.

[cryan]

The 2003 version were really good.I guess I ment on the the lines of Ben 10,Teen Titans or Transformers Animated for example.

[Gyt Kaliba]

It's cool lol, I was mainly joking around anyway. As one of the few here who's also really big into anime, I have to defend it a bit.

I like Ben 10 (but that style would not work for TMNT), and even though I liked Teen Titans okay, definitely NOT that style for a new TMNT either. *shudders from the thought*

I am so on board with them bringing in Ron Perlman (voice of TT's Slade/live-action Hellboy) in for a role though...

[U2WaTCHer]

hi anymore news on the nick tmnt or when its going to air on nicktoons?

[Kendamu]

I'd say give it another year before you see it on TV.

[oldmanwinters]

I'd say give it another year before you see it on TV.

I'll be happy when we are finally able to see some character designs and previews. Or even know the voice cast.

[Ninjinister]

I am so on board with them bringing in Ron Perlman (voice of TT's Slade/live-action Hellboy) in for a role though...

Ron Perlman is my favorite actor, so of course I'm down with this.

[Koi]

I'll be happy when we are finally able to see some character designs and previews. Or even know the voice cast.

We know that Rob Paulson is doing Donny. He might now have more info on his twitter.

[Utromshredderhater]

Well from what we've seen from Alex's deviantart page what should we expect?

[Powder]

Well from what we've seen from Alex's deviantart page what should we expect?

Nothing considering he won't necessarily have any control over final character designs. Those are just his own "for fun" pieces.

[***The One True Shredder***]

Nothing considering he won't necessarily have any control over final character designs. Those are just his own "for fun" pieces.

When will we start seeing concept art?

[Kendamu]

When will we start seeing concept art?
There's no guarantee that we will even see anything like that. Alex knows we'd like to see stuff like that so, if he is ever allowed to, we might see some. However, I wouldn't count on it.

[voltron80]

I personal believe the next TMNT series will fall on the lines of the Archie Comic turtles, while it's not as dark as the Mirage and 2k3 series it's not over the top goofy as the '87 series.

But what I would like to see in the new series
1. human foot ninjas.

2. If you're going to bring back Bepob and Rocksteady, make them some what smarter.

3. Keep their knee,elbow and wrist wraps brown not multi-color like the old series.

4.Leonardo has the single strap that goes along his chest in the 2k3 series or the double straps like in the live action movies and Mirage comics.

5. Shredder I can go either way having him as human man or alien but don't make him a push over.If he's a ninja master he should be able to beat all four turtles by himself.

6.One thing the Archie Turtles did was add new enemies to their rouge gallery use some of those guys.

7. Keep the Mirage origin story.

8. No crossovers with any other Nick show. And no Nick tween star guest voice overs either.

9. Keep the Turtles personalites from the mirage/2k3 series era. I have no problem if they tone down Raph a bit.

10. Epic battles and connecting storylines.

11. Have each turtle in a different shade of green like the old school toy line and 2k3 series.

[Powder]

You just described the 2k3 show. Way to be original.

[voltron80]

You just described the 2k3 show. Way to be original.

Well the 2k3 series was pretty epic.. And outside of that why would you want the same old dumb as a rock Bepob and Rocksteady? Why would you want a main bad guy that's one clusmy and two gets beat in the most nuttiest of ways i.e getting hit in the face with a pizza? As for the brown pads I'm not going to freak out if they go back to their multi-color pads. As for Leo straps really what's wrong with that? And do you really want crossovers with the other Nick shows or have the cast of Icarly lending their voices? What's wrong with connecting storylines? And how expanding the rogue gallery is describing the 2k3 series? Other than Bishop, Shredder, Stockman and Hun what other person were the turtles having beef with(fast foward doesn't count)?

[Candy Kappa]

Seeing Cheeks artwork of the turtles I kinda want to see a show based on that. It's new and different.
just in case you don't know what I'm talking about (http://cheeks-74.deviantart.com/art/TMNT-163847156?q=favby%3ATendoKiwamu%2F1555725&qo=36)

[sdp]

We'll be getting plenty of news about TMNT in 2011, the movie is slated to come out in 2012 and likely in the summer so we'll likely find out more stuff about casting and whatnot early in the year and by the end we'll have decent amount of information on it especially since it seems like Viacom is banking on TMNT being a big summer movie.

As for the new show something will likely leak a few months before SDCC and I'm pretty confident Nick is going to be pushing hard TMNT at SDCC so we'll get plenty of information there, maybe even a small preview. I'm basing this on what Rob Paulsen and Alex Deligiannis have commented about the show which makes me think a decent amount of work is already done with the new series so it'd be ready for early 2012.

Basically 2010 was the year without much happening when it came to the turtles and while we won't be getting the actual show/movie until 2012, 2011 will have plenty of news for us to discuss. So yeah I haven't cared much about the turtles this past year and nothing big had happened to re-spark my interest but I'll probably spend a lot of 2011 discussing turtle projects we won't be seeing for another year as news start to reel in. Of course this is all just speculation on my part but I'm fairly confident that my predictions are safe bets. I'm usually pretty good at it, well except this past SDCC which I got a ton of predictions wrong.

[Utromshredderhater]

Shredder human period, team Bebop and Rocksteady with Tokka and Rahzar,
Bring back Tatsu and Keno, some Archie villains,

Mutanimals:Leatherhead, Mona Lisa, Ninjara, Mondo Gecko, Wingnut and Screwloose, Jadwar, Dreadmon

[Gyt Kaliba]

Seeing Cheeks artwork of the turtles I kinda want to see a show based on that. It's new and different.
just in case you don't know what I'm talking about (http://cheeks-74.deviantart.com/art/TMNT-163847156?q=favby%3ATendoKiwamu%2F1555725&qo=36)

Not liking the big huge bulky one, but the artstyle itself is very cool...and kinda familiar.

Wait...Cheeks...the guy who did the designs for Hellboy Animated?

[Candy Kappa]

Not liking the big huge bulky one, but the artstyle itself is very cool...and kinda familiar.

Wait...Cheeks...the guy who did the designs for Hellboy Animated?

yes. And Spectacular Spider-Man

[Gyt Kaliba]

Ooh, cool. Another reason for me to check that one out. Just wanted to be sure, I'm not familiar with most comic artists but that nickname stuck out in my mind.

[Rikirk]

Would like the storylines to be dark and brooding.
Maybe show some people biting the dust once in a while. I liked 2k3 for this aspect mostly. Like how dark Clone Wars is. But please I hope they dont dumb it down and pander to me with it.
Hopin for the best.

[cryan]

I would like some dry humor but yeah,not in your face slapstick humor.I do like wise cracking characters(the way Raph was in the OT)but keep at that.No 4th wall breaking and goofy stuff.Also,if they do bring Mona Lisa back she needs to be updated.I would love to see them tweak her a bit.Keep her the same creature she turns into.I still want her previous form to be human but this time she gets mutated at the hands of Shedder.Have her being a recuring character not part of the Turtles.Just an alley.I know it won't happen but is something I would like to see.

[Bjarni]

- Different skin tones for each Turtle, colored bandannas
- Do the first 11 issues of volume 1
-Flashback with Hamato Yoshi, Tang Shen, Oroku Nagi and Oroku Saki
- Hun and the Purple Dragons are side-villains
- Have NoBody, Leatherhead and The Rat King (in their Mirage version)
- Baxter Stockman works for The Foot. Gets Mutagen at the TCRI site after the Utroms teleport away. Uses it to create henchmen for The Foot, including Shredder clones, Bebop, Rocksteady, Bloodsucker, Tokka, Razhar, Mutagen Man, Slash etc. He get's mutagen on himself later and becomes a fly only to later transport his mind into a robot.
- April + Casey
- Shadow Jones
- The City at War storyline
- The Mighty Mutanimals
- Cudley the Cowlick!
- Ninjara and her arch with the Wolf people
- The Battle Nexus storyline
- Maybe do the Vol. 3 storyline with Pimoko after or during City At War? Just to use ideas from all mediums and keeping old ideas fresh

[Candy Kappa]

I'd like to see episodes that challenges the censors

[Avatar Yuffie]

I'd like a snarky Turtle back again (could be Raph, or mixed it up a bit with... Mikey). Like Spectacular Spiderman or Toph Bei Fong type of dry sarcastic humor in the face of danger or ridiculous situations.

Not gonna make specifics: give the new series a solid story, and I'll be happy.

Well maybe a couple... no Justice Force and Cody Jones in the future, pls?

[Utromshredderhater]

What about something involving the Turnstone

[ninjafowlkes8705]

I'd like a snarky Turtle back again (could be Raph, or mixed it up a bit with... Mikey). Like Spectacular Spiderman or Toph Bei Fong type of dry sarcastic humor in the face of danger or ridiculous situations.

Not gonna make specifics: give the new series a solid story, and I'll be happy.

Well maybe a couple... no Justice Force and Cody Jones in the future, pls?

no the heck you want i think mikey again

[Powder]

no the heck you want i think mikey again

Huh? :tanime:

[ninjafowlkes8705]

- Different skin tones for each Turtle, colored bandannas
- Do the first 11 issues of volume 1
-Flashback with Hamato Yoshi, Tang Shen, Oroku Nagi and Oroku Saki
- Hun and the Purple Dragons are side-villains
- Have NoBody, Leatherhead and The Rat King (in their Mirage version)
- Baxter Stockman works for The Foot. Gets Mutagen at the TCRI site after the Utroms teleport away. Uses it to create henchmen for The Foot, including Shredder clones, Bebop, Rocksteady, Bloodsucker, Tokka, Razhar, Slash etc. He get's mutagen on himself later and becomes a fly only to later transport his mind into a robot.
- April + Casey
- Shadow Jones
- The City at War storyline
- The Mighty Mutanimals
- Cudley the Cowlick!
- Ninjara and her arch with the Wolf people
- The Battle Nexus storyline
- Maybe do the Vol. 3 storyline with Pimoko after or during City At War? Just to use ideas from all mediums and keeping old ideas fresh

i want animation like the 2007 movie but differently i want the black baxter stockman back splinter, april and casey in the comic version i want leonardo and raphael in their comic version and donatello and michelangelo in the 1987 version i do not the want the series going the 2105 i want to see them to team up with usagi in more episodes and team up with the wild west cowboys of moo mesa besides mikey with a grappling hook they should have grappling hook gauntlets all 4 of them they should have ninja utility belts with their weapon holders and ninja stars they should name the turtle com the shellberry.like the necklace on ninja tribunal but they have to being in samurai and for the disguises i like the trechcoats and hats from 1987 cartoons and the swat outfits from the back to the sewers for vehicles i want all of the have shell cycles from the 2003 and cheapskates from the 1987 cartoons.

[blockhead]

I say make it like the mirage universe and do a better job than the 2k3 series.

[Utromshredderhater]

I think it needs to be just the right combination of the OT, Archie series and a little bit of Mirage

[Koi]

I hope that they act like there age.

[cryan]

I don't mind the Foot soldiers being human this time around.That could make for some really good humor as well.If anyone remembers the original GI Joe cartoon.Make the foot soldiers similar to the Cobra troops.Make them somewhat competent but the usual cannon fodder.

[Candy Kappa]

Red Bandannas with 88 toy skin color

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

As I stated in my earlier post in this thread, I really, really, REALLY hope they use more of the OT/Archie characters and storylines, and not retread Mirage. We just had a mirage adaptation in the 2k3 series, and frankly I'm sick of that take. Give me Bebop, Rocksteady, and Krang any day over the Ancient One and the flatulence jokes they do with him. (the Leonardo training episode) It seems silly to me to think the 2k3 series was more mature simply because it was more Mirage than OT.

Again, I'd like to see more of the playmates figures characters that never got on the OT- like pizzaface, ace duck, etc. - and one episode OT characters like Mona Lisa- come back before seeing characters like Bishop and Lotus Blossom- er, I mean Karai- again (Like to see Lotus again instead of the Mirage knock-off) but again, that's just me.



Your Kahn decrees it!

[Utromshredderhater]

As I stated in my earlier post in this thread, I really, really, REALLY hope they use more of the OT/Archie characters and storylines, and not retread Mirage. We just had a mirage adaptation in the 2k3 series, and frankly I'm sick of that take. Give me Bebop, Rocksteady, and Krang any day over the Ancient One and the flatulence jokes they do with him. (the Leonardo training episode) It seems silly to me to think the 2k3 series was more mature simply because it was more Mirage than OT.

Again, I'd like to see more of the playmates figures characters that never got on the OT- like pizzaface, ace duck, etc. - and one episode OT characters like Mona Lisa- come back before seeing characters like Bishop and Lotus Blossom- er, I mean Karai- again (Like to see Lotus again instead of the Mirage knock-off) but again, that's just me.

I'm with you pal!

[Candy Kappa]

Lotus Blossom- er, I mean Karai- again (Like to see Lotus again instead of the Mirage knock-off)

Lotus got nothing on Karai

on that note, seeing Karai and Shredder duke out over the control over the US Foot would be a interesting fight

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

I'm with you pal!


thanks, I sometimes wonder if I'm one of a few on an OT island surrounded by a sea of Mirage....>_>;

And there's another reson for Nick and playmates to dust these old characters off....People have not seen these characters in over a decade. Whereas the 2003 series's chacters are fresher in people's minds (and thier toys most recently sold) there is a goldmine of long forgotten characters that would be totally new to both kids in the age demographic they're aiming for, and fans of the new series in thier teens. A horde of new "old" characters for playmates to dust off and sell as figures. The 2k3/mirage Characters were just used a few years ago... give the newer fans something they haven't seen before!



Your Kahn Decrees it!

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Lotus got nothing on Karai

on that note, seeing Karai and Shredder duke out over the control over the US Foot would be a interesting fight


I respectfully disagree. I liked the more quickly reformed Loutus -who I may add appeared in the OT a few years before Karai did in Mirage- better than The side flip-flopping "Shredder raised me, so he can do no wrong, even though he's a mass murderer" Karai, and I thought the Mirage Karai was boring, but then again I think all of Mirage was boring, but that's just me....

With Lotus, I'd like to see them explore the whole "I feel like an Anahcronism in my own time' bit that was in that one OT episode.... and not have it be because of a ghost wife from an urn being inside her. Possibly raised by an isolated ninja clan... how would a trained relic of another age deal with the modern world? In a way, she's as much an outcast as the Turtles. This is just an example of one of the ways Nick could possibly use the OT characters.


Your Kahn decrees it!

[Utromshredderhater]

I respectfully disagree. I liked the more quickly reformed Loutus -who I may add appeared in the OT a few years before Karai did in Mirage- better than The side flip-flopping "Shredder raised me, so he can do no wrong, even though he's a mass murderer" Karai, and I thought the Mirage Karai was boring, but then again I think all of Mirage was boring, but that's just me....

With Lotus, I'd like to see them explore the whole "I feel like an Anahcronism in my own time' bit that was in that one OT episode.... and not have it be because of a ghost wife from an urn being inside her. Possibly raised by an isolated ninja clan... how would a trained relic of another age deal with the modern world? In a way, she's as much an outcast as the Turtles. This is just an example of one of the ways Nick could possibly use the OT characters.

Let's also make it a point of NO STUPID UTROM SHREDDER. Also a good idea would be to team Bebop and Rocksteady with Tokka and Rahzar so that way it's 4 on 4. Also from what I remember the OT show and Archie comic were more popular than the Mirage comic. Plus do both Lotus and Karai with Lotus being from a rival clan the Shredder wiped out and her and Karai being rival/enemies

[Bjarni]

Also a good idea would be to team Bebop and Rocksteady with Tokka and Rahzar so that way it's 4 on 4.

Do both Lotus and Karai with Lotus being from a rival clan the Shredder wiped out and her and Karai being rival/enemies

I think you should be writing for the new show.

[Utromshredderhater]

I think you should be writing for the new show.

It's just a simple matter of growing up with the TMNT and knowing what the people want

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Let's also make it a point of NO STUPID UTROM SHREDDER.

THIS! Oh, I sooooo much agree with you on this! Make Krang the Utrom Outlaw, instead of C'hrell, that supplies a HUMAN Shredder with his tech and Mutagen!






Your Kahn decrees it!

[cryan]

THIS! Oh, I sooooo much agree with you on this! Make Krang the Utrom Outlaw, instead of C'hrell, that supplies a HUMAN Shredder with his tech and Mutagen!






Your Kahn decrees it!

As do I.I think Shedder should be human agian.

[Utromshredderhater]

Also lets keep April and Casey just friends, because in the 2k3 series Casey was basically neutered. Lets make April a reporter again because she was more useful that way. I wouldn't mind seeing Keno, Irma and Vernon again

[cryan]

On the subject of April.I would like to see her be a freelance reporter,not working for a particular news station.

[Bjarni]

I wouldn't mind seeing Keno, Irma and Vernon again

Even though Fred Wolf Productions created Vernon and Irma (or David Wise to be even more specific), I'm pretty that Mirage owned the rights and that Viacom owns them now (if they appeared in the Archie comics or had Playmates figures, Mirage probably owned them 100%)

But I think someone posted that some of the movie characters weren't owned by Mirage, like Keno and Tatsu. If so, I doubt we'll ever see them again, which sucks because I loved those characters and felt that they could really be a big part of the TMNT universe.

Here's hoping the new show will actually be filled with previously seen characters and they all get the justice they deserve. :tgrin:

[Kendamu]

Human Shredder would be cool, but I liked how 4Kids could get away with more during the fights against Shredder because he wasn't human.

Then again, it'll be on cable so they can get away with a bit more, anyway, if they wanted to.

Also, non-neutered Casey would be awesome!

I shouldn't worry about it, though. 90% of pre-established TMNT fans will hate it no matter what, anyway. :P

[cryan]

One thing.I would let the series get a foot hold(no pun intended)before they start adding new characters(and older characters)to the series.Back in the day,Fred Wolf films didn't add new characters like 3 years ofter the OT began.Again,just my feeling.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

One thing.I would let the series get a foot hold(no pun intended)before they start adding new characters(and older characters)to the series.Back in the day,Fred Wolf films didn't add new characters like 3 years ofter the OT began.Again,just my feeling.

That might be a good approach. However, I also think that at least some guest stars from right out the gate could help differentiate it even futher from prevous versions a bit, and could be some sucsess as a semi-team up show (look at batman; the brave and the bold) and yet still have a more serious tone. And again, all those figures for playmates to sell.

It could go ethier way though, really. Ethier approach would be good in my book.

[Avatar Yuffie]

Also lets keep April and Casey just friends, because in the 2k3 series Casey was basically neutered.

Pfffftttt... LOL.

Actually, I don't mind April and Casey being an item... but y'know a part of me want to see Gabrielle and Shadow. I feel they should be integrated somehow in another continuity.

[Luckyday]

I already said this but
it would be great if they get an actor that get Michelangelo perfectly from the mirage version because that's when I like Michelangelo best. When he's not too goofy but generally more down to earth than the other turtles. Same for Raphael from the mirage. He has more a dark humor to him than rude and would be nice if the actor is from queens, brooklyn, or any part of new york like the one from CGI movie rather than say acting like he from new york. Maybe all of the turtles sound have a new york since they sorta sound like they do in the comics.

no surfer accents please.:trolleye:

[cryan]

If they do include older OT characters.I definately what to see them in action,as well as Casey.I agree that he was "neutered" in the 03 version.When they went with the "Fastforward" season.They" killed off" Casey and April and left us with Cody.I DO NOT what to see that happen again.

[Utromshredderhater]

Put in Keno. NO Zack, NO Carter, and most of all NO CODY. Mutanimals and maybe a story arc about the TurnStone. Just keep April and Casey friends

[cryan]

Yeah,I mean its been 20 plus years sense "Fast Times at Rigmont High"?Yeah,we don't need another Sean Penn impersonation.As far as Zach,Carter,and Cody.Kept them out of the series.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

My only other suggestion to Nick.... if you wish to create new characters for the new series, that's great! But if the story your telling in an episode calls for a certain type of character, please use an already existing character from the huge backlog of TMNT characters before making a new one.

If you need an evil mutant bounty huter Type, use OT Leatherhead instead of making a new character. If use need a good guy tracker, use Walkabout. If you need a shapeshifting mutant villian, use mutagen man. If you need a pilot or or brid like mutant, use Ace Duck, etc. Before adding to the already large number of TMNT characters, use what you already have in the toybox first!

[Avatar Yuffie]

After reading that Mutant Ninja Turtle Gaiden fan comic, I like the idea of a teenage tomboy Shadow Jones doing the vigilante bit (I only wish she was goth though, as a nod of her image in the Mirage comics). It would help the "they need more girl role models" complaints.

I personally would want to see Mona Lisa and Keno again. Tokka and Rahzar and Bebop and Rocksteady as well. Also the Mutanimals from Archie (does Viacom own them now? I think Ninjara isn't own by Mirage so it's unlikely she'd come up).

Of the 2K3 toons, Hun, Bishop and Renet. I also like Leatherhead's incarnation there as well, and hope future incarnations keep that version of him.

Also Space Usagi.

[Utromshredderhater]

After reading that Mutant Ninja Turtle Gaiden fan comic, I like the idea of a teenage tomboy Shadow Jones doing the vigilante bit (I only wish she was goth though, as a nod of her image in the Mirage comics). It would help the "they need more girl role models" complaints.

I personally would want to see Mona Lisa and Keno again. Tokka and Rahzar and Bebop and Rocksteady as well. Also the Mutanimals from Archie (does Viacom own them now? I think Ninjara isn't own by Mirage so it's unlikely she'd come up).

Of the 2K3 toons, Hun, Bishop and Renet. I also like Leatherhead's incarnation there as well, and hope future incarnations keep that version of him.

Also Space Usagi.

I agree completely

[Candy Kappa]

What's up with all the Keno love? The character was annoying... Danny 2.0

[Avatar Yuffie]

What's up with all the Keno love? The character was annoying... Danny 2.0

I like Keno. Well... more than Zack, Angel, Carter and Cody that is.

If the Turtles just have to hang around/help a human kid in the neighborhood, I'd rather have Keno.

[Walkabout]

What's up with all the Keno love? The character was annoying... Danny 2.0



LOL
Im not a fan either, no offence to anyone (just cause I dont like it doesnt mean it isnt good,of course) Im all for playmates/archie mutants as guests or (why not?)reoccuring characters, but I dont dig it when the tmnt buddy up with humans other than Casey, April (could tolerate Irma)

[cryan]

This is a stupid question but who the heck is Danny?If you mean the kid from the first movie.The son of Aprils boss.Yeah,leave him out of it.Keno at least was able to defend himself.

[Bjarni]

"Did I mention I also study the martial arts?"

[Ninja Turtles 25 Years]

Here's my suggestion for Nick. Don't make TMNT into one of those NickToons like SpongBob, Hey Arnold, Rocko's Modern Life, Ren And Stimpy. And don't turn TMNT into one of those boring generic high school TV shows. TMNT is not fit to be like one of those silly NickToon drawings, and one of those high school shows.

I would however like it to be a continuation of the 1987 TV series. Find some excuse to bring back Shredder, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady with their Technodrome from Dimension X considering they're not dead, and Dregg is gone.

[Candy Kappa]

And don't turn TMNT into one of those boring generic high school TV shows. .

How are they gonna do that?



Mutant High?

[Powder]

I would however like it to be a continuation of the 1987 TV series. Find some excuse to bring back Shredder, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady with their Technodrome from Dimension X considering they're not dead, and Dregg is gone.

A continuation? That would be lame. They tied up their loose ends, the show ended on a good note!
A reboot would be plenty fine as long as they had new storylines, though. I wouldn't mind seeing archie characters, either.

[cryan]

There are a few things I had in mind if Mona Lisa might be in the series.I definately what to see her be updated:

1-I still want her previous form to be human
2-Update her hair style
3-The time around she is a biology major who gets an internship at a research lab
4-She has a peculiar fasciation with with reptiles and amphibians
5-The foot break into the lab she's working in.She is in her office feeding her pet salamander and is alerted by the noise.She goes to investige and accidently leave the door to the case open and the salamander get loose.
6-The foot over power her.Shredder pulls out a canister of mutigen and poors it on her.As ther are gooing though the lab she begins to transform.The mutation desovles her clothing and sge is knock out.

Just an idea that i had.I know it won't happen.

[Candy Kappa]

There are a few things I had in mind if Mona Lisa might be in the series.I definately what to see her be updated:

1-I still want her previous form to be human
2-Update her hair style
3-The time around she is a biology major who gets an internship at a research lab
4-She has a peculiar fasciation with with reptiles and amphibians
5-The foot break into the lab she's working in.She is in her office feeding her pet salamander and is alerted by the noise.She goes to investige and accidently leave the door to the case open and the salamander get loose.
6-The foot over power her.Shredder pulls out a canister of mutigen and poors it on her.As ther are gooing though the lab she begins to transform.The mutation desovles her clothing and sge is knock out.

Just an idea that i had.I know it won't happen.

interesting for a fanfic, but I don't really see why Shredder would take a random girl and just mutate her.

[cryan]

That's a good point.Though,with the original version of her back in 1990 the writers didn't do a real good job expaining her mutation.What I meant to say in my post was it was her mutation punishment for interferring with the Foot.Again,just an idea I had.That's all.

[Koi]

I don't want to see female mutants. At all.

[Candy Kappa]

I don't want to see female mutants. At all.

I want my turtles blue-balled too:P

[Keldor1578]

I want the Nickelodeon cartoon to be as good as the 4Kids cartoon was as an action series. Also used characters from Archie comic and the Fred Wolf cartoon.

[Ninjinister]

Patrick Warburton as Rocksteady... could it work? In my head, it does.

[cryan]

I could see Patrick Warburton playing Rocksteady.How about Kevin Micheal Richardson play Bebop?:D

[Ninjinister]

I could see Patrick Warburton playing Rocksteady.How about Kevin Micheal Richardson play Bebop?:D

Brilliant. I love it.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

You know, it irritates the heck out of me that all the hate for Venus often gets transferred to other female mutants. So Mona Lisa, who has one of the biggest fan followings on Deviantart, Youtube, and fan sites despite being in only one episode in the 80's series, and proved to be stronger in her only appearance than April "oh, I've been kidnapped again" O' Neal was in her whole time in the series, isn't allowed to be in the Nick Toon? What, are girl mutants not allowed in the sacred mutant boys club? :x

Mona is not Venus People! That logic is the same logic Mattel used when they woulndn't make figures of Katara and Toph for the Avatar: The last Airbender figure series because "Girl figures don't sell" Girls watching the series should have heroines they can root for too! I hope Venus and Ninjara both show up, just to annoy the mirage-ites.

(That is no disrepect to general mirage fans, you guys are an awesome bunch- only those annoying 'mirage and mirage only' cultists- gah thay make me wat to gag!)

[Powder]

For the record, Pinapplehead is a girl. It's not a matter of sexism.

[Candy Kappa]

I hope Venus and Ninjara both show up, just to annoy the mirage-ites.

you make me laugh, who says it's only Mirage fans (Mirage-ites, seriously?) who don't like female mutants.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

I wasn't directing my anger at any individual, but the idea and a specific group, an idea I've heard regurgitated places other than here, and often heard associated with a strange obsession with Mirage purism. I meant no disrespect to Pineapple, or any other individual here, I apologize if it seemed such.

My cousin was a tomboy, and when we were growing up, she always complained abot how there were no female characters on shows who wern't getting tied up, or wern't pink and girly (like Arcee on Transformers). Comments made on this thread merely led me to bring up something that had bothered me on this issue.

To any offended, again I apologize.

[deadpoolRKO]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_gWQaU40PH24/TRBD8NTpVQI/AAAAAAAAJ9Y/nxHXnR2iLS8/s1600/Mystique_1237325518.jpg



I <3 Female Mutants

[cryan]

Ah,Marvel Comics Mystique.Yes,in X-men there are many female mutants.

[Koi]

Xmen and TMNT mutants aren't exactly the same.

[masterturk]

Take heed from the ot a little cos that was soo popular, don't know why they stopped making it? Us in the uk on ot 3 seasons I learnt later there were 10 season omg!

[sdp]

I'd like to see Ch'rell in the new show, not as the Shredder, well I guess he can take up the mantle for a few episodes but i want a real Oroku Saki this time. But besides that I'd love to see a Ch'rell in the new toon, I'd also love to see Hun and Agent Bishop.

Oh and I think I've posted this before (maybe even more than once) but I'm predicting the majority of the forum will HATE the new turtle designs when they are revealed. Event hough we all know its CG people will act surprised as to why the turtles look so CG-ish and complain about their looks :lol:

[Koi]

Fans will always complain no matter what. This fandom contains vastly different preferences between everything which means it is basically impossible to please everyone thusly someone always complaining about something.

[cryan]

Xmen and TMNT mutants aren't exactly the same.

That is very true.

[Shredder_Fan]

I hope, that in the new TMNT cartoon is a little like the old cartoon we all know. In the new cartoon must be in it: Shredder, Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady and The Technodrome

That is what I hope for

[Kendamu]

Fans will always complain no matter what. This fandom contains vastly different preferences between everything which means it is basically impossible to please everyone thusly someone always complaining about something.

Regular people who come across things like the recent "Fight the Foot" and say, "Oh, cool! Turtles," are the majority and aren't too hard to please.

It's the hardcore fans that will complain no matter what.

[cryan]

I just thougt about this.The best voice actor for Casey Jones,Bruce Campbell.:D

[Ninja Turtles 25 Years]

How are they gonna do that?



Mutant High?

The same way as The Next Mutation became a failure: cheap costumes, poor storyline, no Shredder (pratically), no April, a fifth turtle. That's what I mean by Nickelodeon they shouldn't make a generic show like they did with The Next Mutation. I mean I saw that East Meets West, and I didn't think I was going to survive through all 5 parts.

PS: Sorry for being really late with this update. I nearly forgot I said anything here considering my busy quest into finishing up my Resident Evil Umbrella site and finding work. Not easy, neither of them.

[Alouicious]

First off, I want to say that I'm cautiously optimistic/excited about the new version of the Turtles that Nick's coming out with. Even if it does wind up looking cartoony...well...it *is* a cartoon after all, right? lol

I am hoping Nick will go the "Avatar: the Last Airbender" route with their incarnation of the Turtles, like many of the others on the thread are. I like "darker and grittier" and the overall more serious tone of the 2k3 incarnation of the TMNT. I like that they had a few nods back at the original cartoon in terms of slapstick silliness from time to time, but I never really liked the old show all that much. :embarass:

That being said, there is one thing from the 2k3 show that irked the heck out of me that I hope they will not do with the action sequences in the new show: the "Rocky Balboa" moment, typified in "What a Croc!" vs. the Turtlebot and "Grudge Match" vs...uh...the big giant dude that tossed Mikey around like a rag doll. The bad guy has been established as basically possessing the ability to punch out God in a fistfight and has their way with the Turtle(s) of focus for most of the fight, ala Ivan Drago in "Rocky IV". Then, long past the point where the Turtle(s) should have been at least incapacitated if not a stain on the pavement, they suddenly get their second wind and it goes from a curb-stomp fight in favor of the villain to a curb-stomp fight in favor of the Turtle(s). It's lazy writing. If I want to see that, I'll watch DBZ, thanks. More than anything else that happens in that show, more than the giant underground lava lake below NYC, more than the aliens, more than jumping off ten story buildings and landing on ground level without so much as a stubbed toe, the "Rock Balboa" moments shatter my suspension of disbelief. (Weird, ain't it?)

Give me an even match any day, where it's decided by a slip up or two on the part of one of the combatants! They're more dramatic and more fun to watch, am I right? I don't care that the choreography supposedly made the fights in "Phantom Menace" and "Revenge of the Sith" look passionless--they were duels between equals and they were far too much fun to watch. :P

So yeah, I hope they go the "Avatar: the Last Airbender" with their vision of the Turtles and that it includes good fight scenes and not reverse-curb-stomp fights.

Wow that's a long kinda rambling post. Sorry. n.n*

[cryan]

I accually like the 2003 version of Baxter Stockman.I think they should got use that version.I really didn't like the geeky Stockman from the OT.The 2003 version was a vicious SOB.

[CaseyJonesFan]

i think itd be great to see some older characters again but like updated or even just as background cameos. i'd love to see a revamped version of Bebop Rocksteady or Krang. i mean the Turtles Forever film was perfect but ithink itd be cool to see these guys in a new series too :) i also think itd be cool if maybe they went a diffrent route and maybe adapted the Mirage books or something and used the "Mirage Turtles" from Turtles Forever...though i think if they did a Mirage adaptation itd be better on Cartoon network's Adult Swim simply because they could acutally go back to the dark roots with blood and minimal cussing without freaking parents out haha:D

[Candy Kappa]

maybe Stockman will be Asian this time:lol:

[Vincent]

Not that Nickelodeon's gonna see this, but here goes my two cents just 'cause I feel like making a wish...

Do want:
- A talented head writer and writing staff who understand the characters, and character in general, and how to tell good, compelling stories and not get all bogged up in lame jokes.
- Character development! Not flanderization and character derailment.
- Some depth, please? Make this watchable for long-time fans as well as new kids.
- Treat this like a superhero show, rather than a talking animals show.
- Try not to have characters talk to themselves too much. Many animated shows make this mistake. Show, don't tell. Kids will get it.
- Don't write for the kids. Write for yourselves. Example: I loved the Disney cartoon "Darkwing Duck" as a child. A large percentage of its jokes and references were just nerdy inside stuff. Rewatching that show now, I can clearly tell that the writers were just making references to stuff they loved and making jokes that they found funny and told the kind of stories they wanted to see, instead of pandering to the kids. And yet, as a kid myself, I loved it. I didn't get a lot of the references, but I appreciated not being talked down to, and the stories were still exciting. I'm not saying make a show like Darkwing Duck, it's a whole different tone from what TMNT should be, but treat TMNT, the fans, the kids and your artistic integrity with respect.
- Violence. Action. Not gratuitously, and within reasonable limits of course, but it is about ninja. That carries something with it. I get that you can't show whatever, but implied damage should do fine. Stylize the shell out of the action scenes and have stuff happen off-screen if that's what it takes, but you can't have teenagers run around with katana and not even imply that there are consequences. Look at your silly American censorship as a challenge rather than a dead end.
- A good balance of "in the city, fighting ninja" stories and "out and about, having really weird experiences" stories is key to making TMNT really shine. It worked for the early Mirage comics, and it worked for the first four seasons of the '03 show.
- Don't stray too far from the core premise. You've got four turtles (not five). They live in contemporary New York (not the future). They have a friend named April (not Cody). They do ninjutsu and fight with ancient Asian weaponry (not astral projection or turning into dragons). They are shadow warriors who stay hidden (not broad daylight warriors who don't). That's not to say you can't have the Turtles leave New York or go to space or get separated from April, but you can't abandon everything that anchors the show for a whole season and pretend like it's still TMNT. (Learn from the mistakes of previous shows.) By all means, have crazy adventure storylines, but have them be just that, storylines. Don't let them take over the show.
- An adaptation of "The River" would be nice at some point, once things are well established.
- Oh, and red masks all around? Please? There are other ways of making four turtles look distinct from one another. Height, shade of green, facial features, build... The turtles are part of the Hamato clan. As a unit, it makes sense for them to wear the same color. If color coded masks are a must, it should be introduced by April after they meet. Having the classic red masks at least in the beginning would mean something.

Some essentials about TMNT characters and mythology and how to get it right:
- Oroku Saki is a human ninja master and assassin, not an alien and definitely not a sidekick. (Both previous toons got this wrong.)
- There comes a point where you don't bring back the Shredder anymore. Once his head comes off, his story is over. ('03 toon got this terribly wrong. The character had been done almost perfectly up to that point, but then they brought him back with a ridiculous justification that completely ruined the character, and then they went on to over-use said bastardization of the character even though there was nothing of value left. There is a loophole to the no more shredder rule, and that loophole is that it is acceptable for Karai to take over the Shredder identity some time after his death.)
- Oh, also, the Shredder shouldn't look like a big giant with full body armor and a huge helmet and cape. Less is more! The Shredder is not Darth Vader; he should be about skill. You don't need as much skill to survive in full body armor. The original 1984 issue 1 Shredder costume design was simply perfect. (the '03 toon and the movies did this wrong to varying extents by going for "BIG", and even the '87 toon, which almost got the costume right, had him be a tall guy in a cape for some reason.)
- Michaelangelo is not an annoying idiot child who can never take anything seriously. He is an introspective, kindhearted dude with a creative mind and a sense of humor. ('03 toon got this increasingly wrong as the show went on, flanderizing the character into nothing but failed comic relief, a terrible waste of potential character development.)
- Raphael is not a comedian, he's a short-tempered hardcandy with a very occasionally seen soft gooey center. ('87 toon got this the most wrong.)
- Leonardo is the de facto "Leader", but he doesn't let it go to his head. Leo is humble. ('07 movie got this terribly wrong by having Leo straight up say the words "I'm better than you" to Raph.)
- April is not a reporter, nor a damsel in distress, she's a former lab assistant with computer skills (presumably robotics programming) and an antique shop, who eventually dabbles in martial arts and being strangely attracted to a vigilante in a hockey mask. She goes through a lot of really weird, emotionally overwhelming and often dangerous things, and while she is thrown off by it at first, she always comes out standing. She is a strong person. Don't tie her to a chair every week.
- Donatello is good at engineering, but he's not a freaking wizard - I'm not saying stick to hard science, but don't get too ridiculous with the complete nonsense, it has to be consistent with the story and character arc. ('87 toon was probably the worst about this, hardly ever justifying any of Donatello's crazy inventions with more than a handwave.)
- Splinter was never a man, always a rat. ('87 toon got this wrong.)
- Baxter Stockman has an extreme case of narcissistic personality disorder, and borders on psychopathic in his disregard for others. ('87 toon got this wrong, making Baxter extremely inconsistent. '03 toon took this to its logical extreme, beyond what the comics did, which kind of mostly worked great.)
- The Foot Clan is human. ('87 toon got this wrong.)
- There is no fifth turtle. (Next Mutation got this wrong.)
- Turtles are not attracted to humans; humans are not attracted to turtles. ('87 toon and the '90s movies seemed to get this a bit wrong.)
- The mutagenic ooze is a byproduct of research done by the Utroms at TCRI in their quest to leave Earth. ('87 toon and '90s movies got this completely wrong; '03 toon got it right and even expanded on the source material in interesting ways.)

As one can probably tell, I'm mostly a fan of the Mirage comics. But I'm not necessarily against bringing in concepts from the '87 and '03 toons if some of them are reinterpreted.

Cartoon characters that might work (provided the rights to those came with the package):
Bishop - Great character, though perhaps his character development could be handled more naturally.
Hun - Great character, ties perfectly in with the origin of Casey Jones, and even appeared in the comics once or twice.
Bebop & Rocksteady - Cool visual concepts, but far too stupid to even survive. Up their IQ's to somewhere between 90 (that's below average, but functional) and 130 (that's well above average) and you've got yourself either an independent duo of villains or a couple of henchmen for...
Krang - Make him a mutated utrom, perhaps less whiny, don't overuse him, and don't make the Shredder his puppy (better yet, don't team them up - maybe have Krang pay for the Foot's services once if there must be a meeting), and this should go fine. I know a possible epic way to introduce a rebooted Krang, but nobody wants to hear that so let's just say I think it can be done.

There. That's probably the advice I'd give to the people in charge of making the next TMNT show, if I ever got a chance to.

[PizzaPower]

you just said a damn load there! I just want to see the TMNT still on tv. Thats it.

[Avatar Yuffie]

- Turtles are not attracted to humans; humans are not attracted to turtles. ('87 toon and the '90s movies seemed to get this a bit wrong.)


I could have sworn Mirage Leo and Radical became a couple (soulmates even), and Don crushed on April in 2K3.

It's perfectly OK for the Turtles to have romantic attachments (with humans), IMHO.

Just don't overdo it. There's a reason I don't watch Ben 10 Ultimate Alien anymore.

[Jester]

Tell good Turtle stories...that is all.

Ok, I'll also add be true to the characters, make them grow in this series. Develop them well.

[Bjarni]

I guess this qualifies as a suggestion. It's more on the line if I was running the show. It would be more adult then the other shows, but still made for older kids.

Oroku Nagi and Hamato Yoshi, two leaders of the Japanese Ninja Foot Clan fight for the love of Tang Shen. Yoshi kills Nagi and then marries Tang Shen and moves to New York. His brother Oroku Saki decided to take revenge and becomes the leader of the Foot Clan, turning the ninjas into a criminal force. He eventually starts doing business worldwide and his criminal empire eventually expands to outer space.
He was able to make first contact with a planet in uncharted space, which resided in Dimension X, thanks to scientist Baxter Stockman, currently employed with the Foot. The outlawed Utrom Krang was the new warlord of Dimension X and was planning on doing business in other solar systems. He wanted to sell Mutagen. The Shredder had recently moved in on the gang turfs in New York City, and Krang’s Rock Soldiers transported to their base with Mutagen cans, except one of the can was leaking, before the Rock Soldiers realized the leak, a rat walks into the toxic puddle made by the canister. The rat ran out of the Foot compound and started wandering towards neighborhoods. Slowly growing, after collapsing over the shear exhaustion of mutating, it was picked up by a couple living in that neighborhood, they were called Hamato Yoshi and Tang Shen. They named the rat Splinter and slowly educated him, trained him as he evolved.

While taking over gang turfs in New York City, The newly christened Shredder murders Tang Shen and Hamato Yoshi, from the shadows Splinter strikes and claws him, leaving Shredder’s face scarred. The Foot Soldiers burst in to help their master, Splinter escapes and heads for the sewers. When The Shredder makes his return to the Foot Compound in New York City, Krang is there to greet him in order to meet up with his part of the deal. A Robotic Body, designed by Baxter Stockman. Baxter has also tested the Mutagen on a baby alligator, turning it humanoid. But then, the Utroms attack the compound, as they have been searching for Krang ever since he stole the Mutagen. After a lengthy battle, Krang uses his transporter to escape with Stockman and The Shredder. Everyone and everything else is captured by the Utroms. While finding ways to deal with the Foot clan members and Rock Soldiers, a pair of Utroms are told to escort the alligator, now known as Leatherhead to the Utrom secret base while others, disguised as humans, transport the Mutagen back to the base in a fake moving truck, so they can use their transporter to send it back to the Utrom planet.
While the truck is driving to its destination, a bland man walks into the road, while the truck swirls, a boy pulls the blind man out of the way. One canister falls out of the truck and hits an aquarium a child was holding, newly bought from the pet shop. It breaks and out goes four little Turtles into the sewer drain, alongside the Mutagen canister. When they land, the canister breaks, covering them all in Mutagen. Even before transforming, they caught the eye of Splinter who was currently scouting out the sewer.

Splinter starts training the Turtles in the art of Ninjitsu taught to him by his master Yoshi. He gives them names of the renaissance artists Yoshi had taught him. Donatello, Leonardo, Raphael and Michelangelo. Years go by. The Foot becomes a more terrible force in New York. Gang Violence. Krang is still working on getting Mutagen, sending out enslaved Neutrinos to toxic waste planets. The only one brave enough to talk about the corruption and gang violence in New York is Channel 6 news anchor April O’Neil. After watching her story on the Foot Clan on an old television set fixed up by Donatello, Splinter turns off the TV and tells the Turtles to gather around him as he wants to tell them a story. The Turtles get their origin, and learn why they have been learning Ninjitsu for years. Murder Oroku Saki. Avenge Hamato Yoshi. Restore order. The Turtles are sent above the surface, searching for anyone who can tell them where to find the Foot. Just then, April is finishing her live report. But as soon as the cameras cut, the Foot appears. The TV Crew manages to escape, April runs into blind alley. But then the Turtles arrive. They beat the Foot and rescue April, but she faints. They decide to take her to their lair.

I would basically take elements from ALL of the Turtle Universes. The movie series, the Archie comic books, The Japanese stories, the Fred Wolf cartoon, the Mirage run, the Image run, the 4kids series... all of it would be up for grasps.

[Ninjinister]

Just came across this. Anybody have a WallStreet Journal account so we can find out what the rest says?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703362804576184420111427388.html

[CyberCubed]

Bring back Mike's nunchucks!!!!!!!!!

[Candy Kappa]

Bring back Mike's nunchucks!!!!!!!!!

Chill, it's not Steve's shield we're talking about here

[CyberCubed]

Chill, it's not Steve's shield we're talking about here

Does Batman used a utility belt? Does Spiderman shoot out webs? Does Wolverine have claws? Does Superman have heat vision?

Taking away the Turtles weapon is like taking away any superheroes special ability.

[Candy Kappa]

Taking away the Turtles weapon is like taking away any superheroes special ability.

No, making them into Robots from planet Venus would be ruining. They should be able to use all kinds of weapons, they are ninja after all

[Ninjinister]

lol, Venus

[Utromshredderhater]

If they bring the technodrome back would you want it as the main base or a Doomsday weapon built secretly over time

[Vernon]

I wouldn't mind the channel 6 crew to come back.... Well, just Vernon and Irma. And no, I am not saying bring back channel 6, just those 2 characters.

I was thinking, how could April be more involved with the story? Would be interesting if April, the Vernster (Vernon), and Irma had this private-eye headquarters kind of thing.

Irma would be secretary, of course. Vernon would be the one to go about and dig up details, maybe rough a few heads to get the juicy word on the street, Yes, he would do that. I would prefer the Vernon of the first season of the OT Ninja Turtles, except, a bit more spunk and determination.

April would be the one to break into places to get further leads on cases, and if she has to, she is trained to fight.... accompanying her would be her younger sister (creative liberty is runnin' wild in my version), who has hair and a scarf that looks awfully similar to Mona Lisa's old looks, and personality. Not too young, she'd be early 20s.

Sister would be part of the private eye team, too..

[Bjarni]

April, the Vernster (Vernon), and Irma had this private-eye headquarters kind of thing.

I'd watch it.

[TheCanadiandrome]

If they bring the technodrome back would you want it as the main base or a Doomsday weapon built secretly over time

either or works. but just make sure it looks awesome

[Bjarni]

but just make sure it looks awesome

Just make sure it looks like it did back in the day! Then it's awesome. :)

[TheCanadiandrome]

Just make sure it looks like it did back in the day! Then it's awesome. :)
dude that's what i meant