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CyberCubed
08-31-2013, 01:49 PM
Katy Perry's songs have been topping charts one after the other since 2008. It feels like she's become bigger than Britney Spears and Christina Aquilera were in their prime. Also she is better looking than them in their prime too for that matter.

Never expected Katy to have staying power.

Blossombrooks
08-31-2013, 06:24 PM
Y'know I read this and I was going 'No way!'...But then I got to checking the stats and I was really surprised that Britney and Christina really haven't had as many numbers ones in the U.S as Katy Perry.

I was surprised because in the UK they both had much better chart success and I think Britney has the most of the three. Katy Perry has a long way to go in terms of longevity, she's only 3 years younger than her predecessors but they've already enjoyed 14 years or so in the business. I hope she continues to do well, I'm not a fan of the new single but she gives the fans a good show and seems to still be embracing each performance.

Bauer536
08-31-2013, 06:40 PM
Even though I think she's not a very talented singer (she's not bad), Perry has some very good songs and appealing videos. In other words, she's just fun. She's not P!nk, but she has something that attracts more fans, I guess. I'm hoping her new album will be good. "Roar" is not bad, but it does sound like Sara Bareilles' "Brave." Not bothered by that. I'm surprised people love "California Gurls." I like it, too, but its tune resembles Ke$ha's "Tik Tok."

Yet, if you asked me, the best "Perry" in the music business would have been Journey's past front man Steve Perry.:twink:

CyberCubed
08-31-2013, 06:47 PM
Katy Perry isn't a bad role model, aside from the usual bikini bra's and so forth. Also she is damn hot. I am usually not someone who finds most singers attractive, but I had to make an exception in Katy Perry's case. Huge boobs, dark black hair, a body that's not paper thin, etc.

Katy Perry also had the best performance at the VMA's.

Peanut
08-31-2013, 11:40 PM
You're becoming Chrischan levels of creep, kid.

CyberCubed
09-01-2013, 12:13 AM
You're becoming Chrischan levels of creep, kid.

What does that have to do with noticing Katy Perry's continued popularity? I'm not a major fan of her music, I'm not her target audience (teenage girls), but as a follower of the music industry I can't help but notice she's on Britney Spears/Christina's level back in the day.

Also boobs are boobs, of course we're going to notice them especially with how much she promotes them.

Blossombrooks
09-01-2013, 03:19 AM
Katy Perry also had the best performance at the VMA's.

Katy Perry wasn't singing live at the VMA's. It was a good performance but not a patch on JT in my view, whether you like him or not he did an amazing routine and sang live.

Refractive Reflections
09-02-2013, 09:36 PM
If we are talking about singles chart performance, then Katy Perry for sure. But if we are talking about album sales and pop culture impact then Britney Spears without question (she got a Hollywood Walk of fame star in 2003, just 5 years into her career). (Of course we could also debate about how fair it is to compare album sales before and after internet piracy of the early 2000s... :ohwell:)

Britney Spears is somewhat credited along with Backstreet Boys and N'Sync for ushering 90s teen pop music. I think PopMatters Evan Sawdey made a good point of how clever Britney and her handlers were about her image and success, especially with Britney's first music video "Baby One More Time":


PopMatters writer Evan Sawdey commented that Spears's concept for the music video of the song was the one responsible for her immediate success, saying that, as a result, the singer "scored a massive No. 1 single, inadvertently started the late '90s teen pop boom, and created a public persona for herself that was simultaneously kid-friendly and pure male fantasy. Her videos got played on both MTV and the Disney Channel at the same time, showing just how well Spears (and her armies of PR handlers) managed to walk that fine line between family-friendly pop idol and unabashed sex object."


If your interested in more about Britney's legacy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britney_spears#Legacy

Leo656
09-02-2013, 10:27 PM
I think she has more talent than either one but I highly doubt she'll have the staying power of Britney; Christina's been a has-been for a long while now. For better or worse, Katy's gonna have to start "shocking" people if she wants to be as long-remembered as they are. She's "playful sexy", which is fine, but from Madonna to Britney, what sells is "Porn Star Sexy". You absolutely have to go that route if you want a long career, no matter what your "music" sounds like. Thus we get things like the Miley Cyrus train wreck. She's just doing what she knows she has to do.

I'm not saying I condone it - although really, what guy is gonna say they're *against" it?! - but that's how the entertainment business works when it comes to women. Be prepared to be exploited, or Go Home. I kinda like Katy better than the other two (although none of them make the kind of music I like), and she's gorgeous, but if she doesn't "accidentally" flash some vag or leak out a sex tape, something to "push the envelope", she's gonna fade away like Mandy Moore and the other Flavor of the Month chicks.

It's a shame, but that's money.

Bauer536
09-02-2013, 11:06 PM
I think she has more talent than either one but I highly doubt she'll have the staying power of Britney; Christina's been a has-been for a long while now. For better or worse, Katy's gonna have to start "shocking" people if she wants to be as long-remembered as they are. She's "playful sexy", which is fine, but from Madonna to Britney, what sells is "Porn Star Sexy". You absolutely have to go that route if you want a long career, no matter what your "music" sounds like. Thus we get things like the Miley Cyrus train wreck. She's just doing what she knows she has to do.

I'm not saying I condone it - although really, what guy is gonna say they're *against" it?! - but that's how the entertainment business works when it comes to women. Be prepared to be exploited, or Go Home. I kinda like Katy better than the other two (although none of them make the kind of music I like), and she's gorgeous, but if she doesn't "accidentally" flash some vag or leak out a sex tape, something to "push the envelope", she's gonna fade away like Mandy Moore and the other Flavor of the Month chicks.

It's a shame, but that's money.

P!nk is not really like a porn star, and she still is talented and wildly popular. Gwen Stefani does not act like a porn star, and she still is popular, mostly with her band No Doubt. Adele is popular, too, and she doesn't need to be revealing anything to be a star.

And how has Mandy Moore faded away? She's still doing what she loves making some good music for adults, and if you're not familiar with this, she was the voice of Rapunzel in Disney's Tangled. What do you have to say to that?:tcool:

Leo656
09-02-2013, 11:14 PM
I'd argue that having a steady level of fame and still making a lot of money is not *exactly* the same as being a "phenomenon" like Britney. To get to *that* level, you have to play by "The Rules".

And while Pink has a bit more substance than some others, she absolutely has pushed the "skank" button, or, in some odd twist, the "Anti-Skank Button", where she dresses and acts slutty "ironically" to show that she is "different" from Britney, etc. Which somehow has the exact same effect of A) getting her half-naked, and B) getting her on MTV and magazine covers. I like her, though. But she's as guilty as the rest to a lesser extent of using blatant sexuality to keep her career going.

And I wasn't trying to dis Mandy Moore, if anything she's someone I respect because she *was* part of that scene early on and quickly decided she did NOT want to be one of those types, so she made a good choice and shifted gears career-wise rather than sell her morals for money. Nothing wrong with that. But she's still a decent candidate for a "Where Are They Now?", if we're being honest.

Short point being: There's Fame and there's FAME. To get it all in caps, you have to follow a certain script.

Refractive Reflections
09-02-2013, 11:48 PM
P!nk is not really like a porn star, and she still is talented and wildly popular. Gwen Stefani does not act like a porn star, and she still is popular, mostly with her band No Doubt. Adele is popular, too, and she doesn't need to be revealing anything to be a star.

And how has Mandy Moore faded away? She's still doing what she loves making some good music for adults, and if you're not familiar with this, she was the voice of Rapunzel in Disney's Tangled. What do you have to say to that?:tcool:

I'll give you Adele and Pink as being pop music relevant, but Gwen Stefani hasn't been prominently in the spotlight since her The Sweet Escape album, plus her return to No Doubt with the album Push and Shove sold a disappointing 115K on the first week. It doesn't help either that the singles from the album peaked at #34 with "Settle Down", and "Looking Hot" didn't even chart on the Billboard Hot 100. And unfortunately even though she's swimming in the fountain of youth with her looks, pop music is notoriously ageist and it will be more difficult for her and her band to maintain pop music relevant with her being 43 years old already.

As for Pink, well her albums are pretty formulaic, but hey they work. For the past three albums she releases her first single to have some alluring "rebellious" theme against something/someone (i.e. "Stupid Girls", "So What", and "Blow Me (One Last Kiss)" that usually has some censored profanity to give it the "edge" she needs to still be seen as "hard" or "edgy". Then her second and/or third singles are all ballad songs (i.e. "Who Knew" with I'm Not Dead, "Sober" & "Please Don't Leave Me" with Funhouse, "Try" & "Give Me Just A Reason" with The Truth About Love). At least in the beginning of her career, she was more adaptable to new sounds when she went from hip-hop/rap ("Can't Take Me Home") to rock ("Missundaztood"), and still trying to figure out her sound. I'm not saying Pink is untalented, but her albums seem "routine" at least to me.

And sorry Bauer536 but...:ohwell: Mandy Moore has faded away in terms of popular music longevity. Not trying to be insulting in anyway, but as Leo656 has pointed out her musical presence is a whisper from the impact she made during the peak of late 90s/early 00s teen pop.

Unfortunately in the pop music industry its a combination of having some musical talent and having just the right marketable image. You can't just have solely one or the other without being a pop star icon. Otherwise if it was strictly talent, we could ask why Celine Dion isn't still popular on the charts despite having vocal talent close to Adele's? Or if it was strictly image, any runway model would be a music star and have a music career last for many years.

CyberCubed
09-09-2013, 12:12 AM
Katy's Eye of the Tiger music video is actually really good. Love the cinematography....also Katy's boobs are awesome:

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Refractive Reflections
09-09-2013, 03:19 AM
Hmmm, after reading these posts from CyberCubed:

Katy Perry isn't a bad role model, aside from the usual bikini bra's and so forth. Also she is damn hot. I am usually not someone who finds most singers attractive, but I had to make an exception in Katy Perry's case. Huge boobs, dark black hair, a body that's not paper thin, etc.

Katy Perry also had the best performance at the VMA's.

What does that have to do with noticing Katy Perry's continued popularity? I'm not a major fan of her music, I'm not her target audience (teenage girls), but as a follower of the music industry I can't help but notice she's on Britney Spears/Christina's level back in the day.
Also boobs are boobs, of course we're going to notice them especially with how much she promotes them.
Katy's Eye of the Tiger music video is actually really good. Love the cinematography....also Katy's boobs are awesome:

I'm just disappointed the camera was zoomed out when Katy Perry was jumping on the jump rope. There would have been a good animated pic there.


I think the more appropriate title for CyberCubed's thread here should have been: "Katy Perry's bigger than Britney/Christina in their prime?" :P:lol:

Jester
09-09-2013, 03:36 AM
I just love how he's such a fan, that he can't even get the song's title right.

CyberCubed
09-09-2013, 12:24 PM
I just love how he's such a fan, that he can't even get the song's title right.

I don't actually spend time listening to Katy Perry music, I just hear enough of it due to all the music shows and online.

It's like how back in the 90's everyone heard Britney Spears songs whether you were a fan of her or not. Or Michael Jackson before that.

Andrew NDB
09-09-2013, 12:42 PM
It feels like she's become bigger than Britney Spears and Christina Aquilera were in their prime. Also she is better looking than them in their prime too for that matter.

Not at all.

CyberCubed
09-09-2013, 12:43 PM
Not at all.

The former or the latter? If its the latter I must admit I've always preferred dark hair on a woman compared to blonde's.

Andrew NDB
09-09-2013, 12:48 PM
The former or the latter? If its the latter I must admit I've always preferred dark hair on a woman compared to blonde's.

Personally I'm not even attracted to white chicks, but I'd take Britney Spears in her prime over any of those chickens. And Katy Perry looks scary.

Turo602
09-09-2013, 01:12 PM
Is this about who's hotter or who was/is a bigger sensation?

CyberCubed
09-09-2013, 01:58 PM
Is this about who's hotter or who was/is a bigger sensation?

Both of course.

Jester
09-09-2013, 09:18 PM
I don't actually spend time listening to Katy Perry music, I just hear enough of it due to all the music shows and online.

It's like how back in the 90's everyone heard Britney Spears songs whether you were a fan of her or not. Or Michael Jackson before that.
Dude...the title's spelled out in the very video you posted....

Cure
09-09-2013, 09:23 PM
He doesn't have time to read titles.

Jester
09-09-2013, 09:27 PM
He doesn't have time to read titles.
Well played sir.

BODYCOUNT
09-09-2013, 09:29 PM
i havnet read the replies in this thread. But i was around for Brittany and Aguilera and Katy Perry did not have the same impact as those two

Jester
09-09-2013, 09:33 PM
This is like asking if N'ync or the Backstreet Boys are as big as One Direction. Nostalgia can cloud judgement.

Or in Cubed's case...da' boobs.

Leo656
09-09-2013, 10:17 PM
Katy's are pretty spectacular, I'll give her that. She reminds me a little bit of a tackier Bettie Page. That's probably the point of her gimmick.

CyberCubed
09-09-2013, 11:01 PM
Katy Perry actually reminds me a lot of old 70's and 80's female stars, like Linda Carter's Wonder Woman or others around that time.

I know she's a natural blonde, but Katy Perry dying her hair dark black was the best thing she ever did. It helped her stand out from the dozens of blonde female singers and gave her a distinct look.

JoshDA7X
09-10-2013, 03:10 AM
I like Katy Perry, she is harmless and there are far worse "artists" out there who do offend my ears.

Anyway have a look/listen to this! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyG9VR5vGN0