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ZariusTwo
05-08-2014, 03:24 PM
Thought this would be interesting to share. Lately the Spider-Man newspaper strip has been running a storyline where, after a string of circumstances that saw Robbie Robertson finally quit and J.Jonah Jameson battle Spidey inside a malfunctioning Iron Man suit, ol' J.J has decided that he's had enough of badgering Spider-Man after it almost gets him killed (he and Spidey were both bailed out by the legit Iron Man at the last minute), and as a result, has finally made peace with him after all these years. They shook hands yesterday and Robbie was rehired today

You can catch up with the story here as it unfolds here

http://www.oregonlive.com/comics-kingdom/?feature_id=Spiderman

Blossombrooks
05-08-2014, 03:59 PM
Ha, that's cool! Thanks for the share Z. I never thought I'd see the day JJJ gave up his Spidey tirade. :)

ZariusTwo
05-08-2014, 04:28 PM
Ha, that's cool! Thanks for the share Z. I never thought I'd see the day JJJ gave up his Spidey tirade. :)

Havent seen you in a spell Blossom, how's tricks?:)

MsMarvelDuckie
05-08-2014, 05:05 PM
You know, they sort of did that in the comics after Peter revealed his identity to the world (during the Civil War arc). They duked it out in a boxing ring (Spidey was obviously holding back) and they had it out over JJJ's lawsuit and other issues. In the end, Jameson realized he'd been angry at Peter mainly for not being honest about how he was getting his pictures. But he more or less made peace with WHO was behind the mask, if not the years of "lying" that went with it.

ZariusTwo
05-09-2014, 03:22 AM
I remember that. One of the few bright spots of the Civil War period.

The Ultimate comics also followed that up a few years later just before Peter "died" when Jameson found out his identity during the "Chamelions" arc and decided not to tell anyone because Peter managed to save his life and his efforts convinced Jameson he was a hero who wouldnt give up.

I keep thinking in some backwards way, despite the output in their regular books, Marvel are succeeding in steadily evolving and maturing Spidey and his cast of characters in a positive way. The strips lately have seen Peter become less guilt-ridden about deaths that occur as a result of a skirmish with him, more financially well off given how succesful his wife is with her play (though his pride prevents him from quitting the Bugle and living off MJ's earnings alone), and more pro-active, managing to topple a foriegn dictator and even the Kingpin with Daredevil's help, and his marraige has proven stronger here than it's ever been outside of the Spider-Girl books. Spidey's more of a success story in this while the regular comics indulge in him and his supporting cast being outright flip-flopping losers with the usual cliched hang-ups.

chrisdude
05-09-2014, 05:35 PM
I had no idea Spider-Man still had a newspaper strip. The Marvel wiki says Stan Lee writes for it. Is that still true?

ZariusTwo
05-10-2014, 06:31 AM
I had no idea Spider-Man still had a newspaper strip. The Marvel wiki says Stan Lee writes for it. Is that still true?

While Stan is credited as writer, in reality the strips have been written by the likes of Stan's brother Larry Leiber and Roy Thomas. Stan may still have some creative input, it's not entirely clear

Shred Head
05-10-2014, 07:16 AM
Wow I didn't know they even had a Spider-Man comic strip you would think Marvel would get it out there more often or at least advertise some awareness to it. Went back to April and started reading its really good probably the best Spider-Man I read in the past over five years now made me really remember why I loved Spider-Man again. Are any of these collected in trade format I'd like to read some more.

LOL did anyone else think that Jameson in Iron Man Armor looked like an Iron Hitler in some panels.

ZariusTwo
05-10-2014, 09:28 AM
Are any of these collected in trade format I'd like to read some more.

There's a few collections of the strips from the 70s (back when Lee was writing them with Romita Snr illustrating), you can find them on Amazon.

As for publicity, this current arc has gotten a lot of attention from Newsarama and current Spidey writer Dan Slott is a big fan of it and recommended it on his facebook page last year. I think it's dificult to advertise because very few newpapers carry the strip nowadays.

TheSkeletonMan939
05-10-2014, 10:47 AM
Nope! In tomorrow's strip, Jameson decides he hates Spider-Man again for exactly no reason. Seriously, Larry Leiber is the most untalented writer I've encountered in years.

oldmanwinters
05-10-2014, 10:52 AM
Nope! In tomorrow's strip, Jameson decides he hates Spider-Man again for exactly no reason. Seriously, Larry Leiber is the most untalented writer I've encountered in years.

Vintage Jameson.

ZariusTwo
05-10-2014, 12:30 PM
Nope! In tomorrow's strip, Jameson decides he hates Spider-Man again for exactly no reason. Seriously, Larry Leiber is the most untalented writer I've encountered in years.

Wow...now that is a very dirty bait and switch. Same ol' Marvel comics...ever afraid of changing the status quoe too much

oldmanwinters
05-10-2014, 09:44 PM
Wow...now that is a very dirty bait and switch. Same ol' Marvel comics...ever afraid of changing the status quoe too much

But ironically enough, the Spider-man books have probably seen the most dramatic status quo changes of any of the Marvel books... especially in recent years with The Superior Ock-Man and Miles Morales.

ZariusTwo
05-11-2014, 03:42 AM
But ironically enough, the Spider-man books have probably seen the most dramatic status quo changes of any of the Marvel books... especially in recent years with The Superior Ock-Man and Miles Morales.

With Miles, they've already brought Ultimate Peter back from the dead (time will tell if that's a bait and switch too) and, to be fair, the Big Time/Superior stuff all comes from a reality created by a deal with the devil, it's not the "real" reality and most of the fallout from Ock's tenure as Spidey was lazily swept under the rug with only some collateral damage remaning to prolong Slott's run on the book, which will probably also be dealt with whenever he leaves. Former Spidey editor Steven Wacker already admited that eventually someone will retcon the deal with Mephisto, and that would undoubtedly mean erasing the timeline we have now. It's all Illusion of change mate.

MsMarvelDuckie
05-17-2014, 09:20 PM
Yeah, that is one of the few things that irks me with the comic books. I LOVE Spidey to death, but I really wish that deal with Joe- er, I mean Mephisto had never happened. It was pointless, and most of the stories that came after could have still been told (with some minor changes) without it. I can only think of a few instances where it would have drastically changed the story, and most of those are BECAUSE of that deal. (OMIT and his relationship with Carly and rooming with Vin come to mind.)

ZariusTwo
05-18-2014, 03:41 AM
I like to think that most (but not all obviously for quality and continuity reasons) of Peter's adventures from the current era sort of happen in between the arcs of the daily strip with the marraige intact. Just feels more right.

Marvel really are sending mixed messages at the moment by having the marraige in this strip and proceeding without it in the regular books, I've read comments from some fans who are convinced, because of this weird balance, this whole era has been a massive multi-year bit of trolling and that this will culminate in the deal being undone, and also that Spider-Verse would be the ideal arc to do this, but I am hesitant in beleivng them. We'll see, but given Wacker's comments and the continuous prescense of the marraige in the strip, Marvel still very much value Peter and MJ being together.

As you say, OMD proved entirely pointless. Nothing changed. Peter and MJ are still married and life goes on.

A new storyline begins tomorow in the strip...and what a surprise, the writers are going to cash-in on Superior's momemtum by bringing back Doc Ock.

MsMarvelDuckie
05-25-2014, 07:23 PM
Unless I've missed something in the past two years, no, they're not still married in the books. They had a "will they/won't they get back together" thing going for most of the BND period, but that ended rather permanently on the "No, they won't" side with a three issue arc called "One Moment In Time" which was COMPLETELY OOC for BOTH of them. In essence, M-J told Peter that she wanted a family and a normal life, which she couldn't have with him, and just couldn't deal with him being Spider-Man any more. It was a three issue cop-out on the part of.... Guess who?!

So after twenty + years of stories where she was his biggest cheer-leader and morale-booster, not to mention doing her own share of butt-kicking by his side, (A fun little tale with an incident involving her, Man-Wolf, and a fireplace poker comes to mind....) we're expected to swallow the "fact" that she's given up on having any kind of happiness with the man who she has admitted repeatedly is the love of her life? Her soul mate? Sorry, that's when Marvel completely lost me on the Spidey books. I really DO hope they ret-con that stupid deal some day- and not just because of Oc tooling around in Peter's body. That entire era (both BND and Superior) should never have happened. Maybe we'll read an issue one day where Peter will wake up and find M-J in the shower, and it was all just a bad dream a la Dallas..... (Actually, I'd like to see that, might be fun to read! Not to mention nice a "take THAT" to Quesada!!)

ZariusTwo
05-27-2014, 04:13 AM
Unless I've missed something in the past two years, no, they're not still married in the books.

And not once did I say the marraige was back in the books. Indeed, as I said in the post above yours

Marvel really are sending mixed messages at the moment by having the marraige in this strip and proceeding without it in the regular books

My point was Marvel has never truly put the marraige out of sight and mind for the entire duration of this era. In addition to the newspaper strip still having the pair married for the seven years we've endured this, Spider-Girl, which also featured the marraige, was still running for three years after BND started. Quesada actually wanted Spider-Girl to be the place where older fans could read of the Parkers in a different light as parents, but the fans didn't take to it because Peter and MJ were'nt the main characters of the book and sales dipped and led to frequent cancelations.

Spider-Girl will be featured in the upcoming Spider-Verse story so the legacy of the marraige will again be finding it's way into the regular book. Also I've heard Mayday will be featured in an episode of the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon this year

OMD proved ultimately futile if you look at the bigger picture. The conditions may not be ideal for everyone, but Somewhere, in SOME capacity, there will always be a married Peter Parker for the forseeable future. More fans are becoming clued in to this. I think it's time we stopped considering the books the end-all/be-all of Spidey canons. Especially if they don't give us what we want or come to expect from the characters.

That entire era (both BND and Superior) should never have happened. Maybe we'll read an issue one day where Peter will wake up and find M-J in the shower, and it was all just a bad dream a la Dallas..... (Actually, I'd like to see that, might be fun to read! Not to mention nice a "take THAT" to Quesada!!)

That's exactly what the newspaper strip did. It ran a story in 2009 where Peter was single and dating MJ and then he woke up and realized he was still married to her as she came out of the shower. The story ended with the title "Will The REAL Peter Parker Please Stand Up?". It was a deliberate jab at Quesada at the time.

MsMarvelDuckie
06-02-2014, 10:23 PM
I see. I misunderstood what you had said earlier about him still being married in the comics. Since I haven't actually read any NEW Spidey comics in the last two 1/2 years, I thought maybe you meant that they had somehow gotten back together, but as I mentioned, the last time I checked, the OMIT arc had nixed that idea for good. I AM aware that he is still married in the strip, but it is not in print in my area and never has been, and the strip was long ago divorced from the main comic book in any case- partially due to the very issues of character progression that Quesada has tried so hard to negate. Even when the BND debacle was still going on, it was made clear by Stan that the strip WOULD keep them together, regardless of what happened in the comics. He wanted nothing to do with that storyline, and he made that known. By the same token, JMS actually had TWO endings to the OMD plot, but was not allowed to use the one he really wanted to. (One that essentially told Mephisto where to stick it.)

However, I did not know about the story in the strip in 09, as I've never read the strip (since I can't get it in my neck of the woods- it doesn't appear in any of our large papers in this area, and AFAIK, it never has.) Sounds like what Stan might do, though. I know he was heavily against ending the marriage in the first place, since it basically regressed Peter back to his early college days in terms of characterization and situations. At his age (which is somewhere around mid-thirties by now) he SHOULD be married, settled down, and getting his life together, not stuck in a singles' rut of loserville social life, barely ecking out a living, and going through personal crisis after personal crisis in his love and professional life.

As for the Spider-Girl line, I'm also well aware of Quesada's stance of that being the place for a "married Peter", but that was simply a cop-out response, IMHO. He knew that people would still want to see a PRESENT-TIME Spidey married, so he tossed fans a bone by mentioning that it was still status quo in the strip- even though most fans don't get to read it. Same goes for the Spider-girl books, he was just tossing fans a bone- and then later yanked that one away by canceling the book! I still feel that the situation will eventually be changed back (that deal still has some dangling strings that can be used to unravel it) probably once someone with more sense and maturity takes over as EIC. The marriage was far too popular to remove it permanently, and the steadily slipping numbers of sales for the comic series has proven that over the last half-decade since it was printed. I feel that we WILL see them together again eventually- it just may take a while before Marvel wakes up and realizes how badly it hurt their star hero.

ZariusTwo
06-03-2014, 04:05 AM
I see. I misunderstood what you had said earlier about him still being married in the comics. Since I haven't actually read any NEW Spidey comics in the last two 1/2 years, I thought maybe you meant that they had somehow gotten back together, but as I mentioned, the last time I checked, the OMIT arc had nixed that idea for good. I AM aware that he is still married in the strip, but it is not in print in my area and never has been, and the strip was long ago divorced from the main comic book in any case- partially due to the very issues of character progression that Quesada has tried so hard to negate.

You can read the strip online, just check the link in the first post and you need never worry about looking for it in the papers again.

As for the strip divorcing itself from the main canon, yeah everything is distinctly different from how the landscape of the books are now, not just for Peter but for other heroes (he's only recently revealed his identity to Matt Murdock for example), at the same time, it feels more organic and less forced than some of the radical changes in the regular continuity, which are based off shock value more, twists for the sake of twists. Another example is the strip recently referenced Gwen's death, so a lot of the vintage canon is still relevant to it.

One thing I wish the strip did was push the story a bit more...outside of MJ making more money than Peter, they still haven't carried out their intentions of moving into a bigger house to start a family, and they hinted at that back in 2011. I also wish they would bite the bullet and give Peter and MJ a baby in the strip.

I still feel that the situation will eventually be changed back (that deal still has some dangling strings that can be used to unravel it) probably once someone with more sense and maturity takes over as EIC. The marriage was far too popular to remove it permanently, and the steadily slipping numbers of sales for the comic series has proven that over the last half-decade since it was printed. I feel that we WILL see them together again eventually- it just may take a while before Marvel wakes up and realizes how badly it hurt their star hero.

I agree. Quesada once said they were stuck with it one way or another and I feel like Marvel just want to have a few years of freedom before they have no choice but to address the elephant in the room. I would'nt have minded OMD if it had been, like Superior, a year long event to show people were taking the marraige for granted and that it would come back at the end of that year in triumphant fashion, but the idiots in charge legitimately thought they could go on and on and on without the marraige, and tell fans to "get over it" and whatnot, and those fans have never shut up, and never will.

It's true what you say, it IS a cop-out we have to settle for the strip at the moment, or whenever Marvel decide to promote Spider-Girl again, but you're also right in that the current crop of guys at the top won't last forever and I do feel we're closer to the end of this era.

MsMarvelDuckie
06-09-2014, 08:06 PM
Well, I've never been all that interested in the strip to begin with, honestly. I started reading the books early in JMS's run, with the 9-11 tribute issue and the arc where Aunt May finally discovered his secret and confronted him about it. I fell in love with his work on it, and I still feel he has had one of the BEST runs it's ever had- up until the order from on high to nix the marriage, which is allegedly why he LEFT the book and moved over to Thor. I also loved Peter David's run on Friendly Neighborhood S-M, which is my second favorite Spidey series. I loved Strazynski's take on the origin and WHY it happened, as well as some of the characters he brought in, how he wove Spidey into the larger fabric of the MU, and the dynamics of Peter's relationships during his run.

That said, it was the revolving-door roster of writers, the meandering plot-lines, endless ret-cons, and outright ignoring of past history that soured me on the comic after BND began. I just feel like they pissed all over the long-time fans, in a blatant attempt to bring in new ones for the sake of netting a "younger" audience. It didn't work. Even younger fans were too familiar with a Peter attached to M-J because of the movies.

Gwen's death (and her secret connection to Norman Osbourn and the whole mess with her twin children) was at least still relevant prior to BND, even being given its own remembrance story in the book Spider-Man: Blue. These kinds of things were what drew me into the Spidey books to begin with, and it just feels like that kind of story-telling has been thrown out, in favor of the next big event, like Superior, or Spider-Island.

ZariusTwo
06-10-2014, 04:04 AM
Well, I've never been all that interested in the strip to begin with

Fair enough. I know it isn't for everyone, I reckon because, as detailed here, it does not take many creative risks, and also because it can be viewed as "too corny", but I find it more enjoyable than the regular books and everyone actually acts in-character, plus it's always nice to read a universe where the marraige is portrayed as consistently stable. Peter having very little problems makes for more refreshing reading.

Interestingly enough, the current arc the strip is doing seems to be a bit of a middle finger to the recently concluded Superior Spider-Man, with Doc Ock proving himself a hero without a mind switch. No doubt he'll reveal his true colors eventually, but I do find this amusing.

Agreed on JMS, he was doing phenomenal things with Aunt May that most writers have not bothered with. I fail to see the point in keeping her alive, yeah they married her to Jameson's father, but she's done a big old load of nothing outside of that one plot point ever since.

I'm a 90s fan, so I'm always going to be biased towards Aunt May's death from issue 400 of ASM, where she confessed she had always known but had denied it. The morons at editorial retconned that May as an actress, but Spider-Girl's creator insists the real May was who died in that issue and his own continuity clings to that mentality.

There's nothing wrong with how JMS handled May confronting Peter's identity, but it did some retconning of it's own by having May be responsible for Ben's death because he went outside for a walk after an argument with her and ended up getting shot (in the original history, he was shot inside the house)

I think it's easier just to think of ASM as being an anthology book for various alternative continuity stories and spare yourself the headache of thinking it's one big long story that stretches out over fifty years. It's long stopped being that. For me, the real story ended when Spider-Girl was axed. The daily strips are just a welcome bonus

MsMarvelDuckie
06-15-2014, 09:23 PM
"I fail to see the point in keeping her alive, yeah they married her to Jameson's father, but she's done a big old load of nothing outside of that one plot point ever since."


Actually, her marrying Jameson's father came AFTER the end of his run. During the BND period, actually. I had no problem with that, myself, but I never saw much point to it, either.


"There's nothing wrong with how JMS handled May confronting Peter's identity, but it did some ret-conning of it's own by having May be responsible for Ben's death because he went outside for a walk after an argument with her and ended up getting shot (in the original history, he was shot inside the house)"


He still died inside the house, it was just after coming home instead of having been there the whole time. I seem to recall he was shot on the stairs just after coming in. So that didn't change, we just go more of the backstory of what happened before he died, and how she felt it was her fault for fighting with him.

ZariusTwo
06-16-2014, 02:49 AM
Actually, her marrying Jameson's father came AFTER the end of his run. During the BND period, actually. I had no problem with that, myself, but I never saw much point to it, either.

I know it occured after JMS left, I was just pointing out how that's been the only significant development with her of the last seven years and even then it has'nt led to anything ground-breaking or interesting for the character. It feels like she's on life support more than a genuine creative desire by anyone to keep her around. That's why I can't take to this current reality, it seems designed to keep May happy at the expense of everyone else, once the deal is undone, May will die and the proper story can resume, but in the meantime we're stuck waiting for that to happen...at least make May interesting again before that happens so you justify all those years spent making her seemingly 'happy' while Peter and MJ live miserable lives behaving irrationally around one another. It makes me hate May rather than be endeared to her. Her time is reallisticly up.

He still died inside the house, it was just after coming home instead of having been there the whole time. I seem to recall he was shot on the stairs just after coming in. So that didn't change, we just go more of the backstory of what happened before he died, and how she felt it was her fault for fighting with him.

Oh right, must be a faulty memory of mine then

MsMarvelDuckie
06-22-2014, 08:15 PM
That's okay, That arc happens to be one of my favorites, especially since it was the first Spidey book I read when I got into them. The TPB of it- along with that really moving and inspiring 9-11 tribute issue- is what actually got me into comics. It was the first time I'd ever been moved to tears (no lie!) by a comic book. It's also what made me want to start writing comics of my own. (And thus, why I created Red-Back!)

ZariusTwo
06-23-2014, 02:51 AM
That's okay, That arc happens to be one of my favorites, especially since it was the first Spidey book I read when I got into them. The TPB of it- along with that really moving and inspiring 9-11 tribute issue- is what actually got me into comics. It was the first time I'd ever been moved to tears (no lie!) by a comic book. It's also what made me want to start writing comics of my own. (And thus, why I created Red-Back!)

Whenever I read that fic of yours I get transported back to that time, it clearly left a big impression on you and it's good to know you sort of continue the themes of that era.

MsMarvelDuckie
07-06-2014, 06:24 PM
Thank you. Funny thing is, up until that time, I'd never truly realized that comic books could have such powerful storytelling or themes, so it was a real eye-opener for me. It's why I got into comics in the first place. Before that, I'd only really read the X-Men Legends collection that had Storm (in her Mohawk days) kidnapped and mind-warped by Loki, and the "New Mutants" kids ending up in Asgard trying to rescue her (and themselves). It was an interesting story, and there was another volume I can't seem to find anymore that again featured Loki, but he took the entire team to a hidden pocket world he created for them, where Rogue and Cyclops could control their abilities, and others got their wishes, but the catch was that they could never leave if they wanted to keep his "gifts". Those were really the only two collections I'd ever read other than a couple of random Hulk and Spidey issues from back in the seventies. Mostly I was only familiar with the 90's cartoons, which also have been a big influence on my writing with Red-Back.

So I guess you could say that that arc was my first REAL introduction into GOOD comic book writing. JMS (and Peter David!) is still one of my favorite comic writers because of that run. He gave such a fresh look at he entire Spidey mythos, without really changing anything. Even his "changes" were mostly just new interpretations of past events seen from a different perspective. Like having his powers actually being part of a greater destiny that the "Spider totem" granted him because of all the people in the room that day, he was ONE person who could understand what it meant to have them. The introduction of Ezekiel was one of the high points of that run, as was the character of Lamont. I really enjoyed his style, and his revelations that Peter was ALWAYS meant to have those powers. Made it feel so much more like there was a bigger picture than just a guy fighting super-villains.

ZariusTwo
07-09-2014, 03:50 PM
It seems 616 is actively going to approach the Spider-Totem story again for the Spider-Verse event, which I kind of find amusing given the real life heat that exists between JMS and Dan Slott over a facebook skirmish a couple of years ago where JMS pointed out ASM's embarrasing sales figures compared to his run

MsMarvelDuckie
07-10-2014, 04:02 PM
As much as I like some of Slott's writing, I am not surprised. However, I don't think the sales slump was so much on him, as on storyline decisions that came from the editorial staff. (read- Quesada) The sad fact is that they've made more bad decisions since the end of JMS's run than in twenty years before that.

ZariusTwo
07-10-2014, 04:07 PM
Correct. Slott is actually credited with turning the plummeting sales figures around, with Superior being the pinnacle of this process. As bad as some of his writing can get, Slott has tried to clean up some of the messier details lumbered with the franchise after OMD, though he has still managed to irritate readers with the way he has treated the more established characters and bigged up his own original creations (and his favourite villain Doc Ock) as being more important. How much of that is him and how much of it is editorial I don't really know.

He was also the guy who once famously said "anyone who acts out of character is from an alternate universe and is'nt following the manuel", and from the way he writes the book now, it's almost as if he's following the beleif this is'nt supposed to be the 'proper' Spider-Man or indeed the 'proper' versions of anyone who inhabits his world, and he may very well make use of this in a meta way when we reach Spider-Verse, an oppertunity to take Spider-Men who are much older or more mature than BND era Peter and basicly have them all put him down for being inferior to them. I'm not expecting that but it would be fairly nice to see. However, if they did that, Marvel would have to admit the last seven years have been a mistake and I reckon their pride won't allow that.

MsMarvelDuckie
07-10-2014, 04:15 PM
:teek: Wow. Makes me glad I haven't kept up with the Spider-book since that gods-awful OMIT mess. He must have been using that philosophy in regards to M-J for that arc. (Did he even write that arc? I don't recall who DID, but it almost made me want to cry/curse/rip the book up/slap the writer/etc....)

And haven't we already HAD a "spider-verse" in the form of Spider Island??

ZariusTwo
07-10-2014, 04:33 PM
:teek: Wow. Makes me glad I haven't kept up with the Spider-book since that gods-awful OMIT mess. He must have been using that philosophy in regards to M-J for that arc. (Did he even write that arc? I don't recall who DID, but it almost made me want to cry/curse/rip the book up/slap the writer/etc....)

Quesada himself wrote OMIT, but he's admitted Slott helped him plan it out.

And haven't we already HAD a "spider-verse" in the form of Spider Island??

Spider-Island was all about the people of Manhatten gaining Peter's powers (and it's the only time Slott's written MJ decently), Spider-Verse is about every Spider-Man from every alternate universe (including Peter and MJ's daughter Mayday) teaming up to battle Morlun, the big bad of the JMS era, who is going across the multiverse killing as many Spideys as possible for some unknown purpose

MsMarvelDuckie
07-15-2014, 07:07 PM
:teek: :trolleye: :tgrumble: Thus proving once again that the "new" era has NO respect or memory where pre BND storylines are concerned. :tcry: I DID read a little of the Spider Island arc, and it was just meh. Honestly, this is just another excuse to have multiple "Spideys" in play at once, or basically a "what if" kind of story. Kind of reminds me of the final arc of the S-M: TAS, actually. Only not as good. At least that series kept track of its own continuity, and the threat wasn't just another badly-resurrected villain.

Don't they even remember that Peter (or whatever he briefly became in that arc) ATE Morlun in "The Other"?? Seriously. He bit off his head. And M-J witnessed it. So HOW THE FREAK IS HE EVEN ALIVE??!! That's just lazy writing, and creates yet ANOTHER continuity hole where none existed before. Slott may have "fixed" a few gaffes, but it sounds like he and Quesada are Hell-bent on undoing everything JMS did that was worth anything, and replacing it with their own ideas. That just reeks of a lack of respect for both the writer and the characters.

Re: OMIT- it figures that would have been Joe Q's brainchild. It was so grossly OOC for her that it made me curse out loud, followed by some weeping and fighting the urge to rip up the comics Id' JUST BOUGHT. I think I may have even invented some new insulting epithets that day.... :teek::tcry::trazz::tmad::tgrumble:

ZariusTwo
07-16-2014, 04:20 AM
Morlun was ressurected in an issue of Black Panther and sent into a hell-dimension at the end of that.

And now Slott is looking to piss off fans of the MC2 Spider-Girl by devoting one of the October issues of ASM to her as part of the Spider-Verse event....with her family coming under attack. That's right, one of only a few universes where Peter has a happy ending, and it's going to get trashed and in all the more likelyhood, will see Peter or Mayday die (probably Peter so they can make the optimistic and fun-loving Mayday a brooding figure). Ugh. I'm just going to deny this is even the same universe I've enjoyed from 1998-2010, which is'nt hard to do considering the UK Spidey comics also have a similar future timeline with Mayday.