View Full Version : Before Secret Origins Part 3, did you suspect Shredder was an Utrom?

05-30-2014, 07:39 AM
Before Secret Origins Part 3 aired for the first time ever, did you suspect Shredder to be an Utrom or were you able to guess he was an Utrom?

There were a few hints in earlier episodes like how Shredder picked up his head at the end of Return To New York.

05-30-2014, 07:45 AM
To be honest, I don't think anyone did. It wasn't like this had happened before. This is the only time Shredder wasn't human, so it was completely out of the blue and unexpected.

Sewer Sirens Podcast
05-30-2014, 07:54 AM
No. I was completely taken aback, and thought it was really a great addition. No matter what anyone says, I love the 2003 version of Shredder.

05-30-2014, 09:33 AM
Considering how much narrative time they were dedicated to the Ch'rell Utrom in parts 1-2 of Secret Origins, I pretty much assumed that would be the big reveal in part 3. It was still shocking to actually see it made explicit, and even more surprising that they "killed him off" at the end.

05-30-2014, 09:52 AM
Considering how much narrative time they were dedicated to the Ch'rell Utrom in parts 1-2 of Secret Origins, I pretty much assumed that would be the big reveal in part 3.

Yeah, after the first couple of episodes of Secret Origins, I think it was pretty obvious that the Shredder was an Utrom. I think the question in this thread should've been "Before Return To New York: Part 3, did you suspect that the Shredder was an Utrom?" The answer to that question wouldn't been no, the idea of Shredder being anything other than human never crossed my mind.

05-30-2014, 10:24 AM
Not that I would know since I wasn't really into TMNT yet when it was revealed, but I'd imagine people thought he'd be a robot after Return to New York because of the picking up his own head thing.

But upon hearing the eerily raspy voice of the rogue Utrom in Secret Origins and noticing it sounding very familiar to Shredder's voice, it really didn't (or wouldn't) bring much of a shock for me.

05-30-2014, 12:30 PM
Don't remember in which episode they showed Ch'rell the first time, but soon after that I realized it could be a possibility.

05-30-2014, 03:58 PM
Considering that whenever he spoke in parts 1 or 2 he sounded just like Shredder, yes.

05-30-2014, 08:48 PM
Yes, because it was spoiled in a video game (and on these boards) before any "Secret Origins" episode even aired. But at that point, it was still speculation and not a fact (ie. maybe it was an idea they had but nixed, but accidentally made it to the video game?) . The first 2 episodes of "Secret Origins" pretty much cemented it though.

05-31-2014, 01:52 AM
Nope; I never suspected, but I'm pretty bad at seeing plot twists coming!

05-31-2014, 01:57 AM
Yes, and I was one of the first ones to see it.

05-31-2014, 11:06 AM

But when I did my first watch of it, I had friends with me and all of them figured it out beforehand.

EDIT: Whoops didn't realise this was referring to when it first aired. I didn't watch the show until nearly ten years later.

06-01-2014, 11:10 AM
I already knew Shredder was an Utrom because I played the Battle Nexus game before I watched the series lol

Shiro Kame
06-02-2014, 06:54 PM
Nope. I was a little kid at the time, and missed most of season 1, so I didn't figure it out until I saw the episode.