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Longview01
10-04-2014, 03:50 PM
Any reason?

and where do I go to discuss it?

Powder
10-04-2014, 04:33 PM
The reason is nobody likes it, therefore there is no discussion. Of course, when I say nobody, I just mean most people, not literally the whole population of this site. I like it. Anyway, it, along with the live action tours, Fred Wolf cartoon, & random stuff in between without designation, goes in General Discussion. There are a bunch of Next Mutation threads scattered throughout, so be sure to do a search before you make one.

Shiro Kame
10-04-2014, 04:36 PM
The reason is nobody likes it, therefore there is no discussion. Of course, when I say nobody, I just mean most people, not literally the whole population of this site. I like it. Anyway, it, along with the live action tours, Fred Wolf cartoon, & random stuff in between without designation, goes in General Discussion. There are a bunch of Next Mutation threads scattered throughout, so be sure to do a search before you make one.

Yeah, it's one of the lowest liked incarnations of TMNT. Even Laird disowned it.

sdp
10-04-2014, 11:33 PM
I asked a long time ago and the official answer is because all classic turtles had to be discussed in the general TMNT section, since its not a "OT" section but a TMNT section, the 2k3 section was only added later to not flood the TMNT section with only 2k3 section and so the other sections were eventually created, in fact the movie section was not made until the 2007 movie was coming out, before that all movie discussions were in general TMNT.

Netkeeper
10-04-2014, 11:40 PM
A Next Mutation section would be full of bickering because it's awful, so if you like it, I'd consider it a good thing there's no section for it.

pennydreadful
10-06-2014, 06:00 PM
Hey dude, PM me if you ever want to chat Next Mutation stuff, as I'm one of the few that likes it (for me, it's in the "so bad it's good" category! :trazz:)

Then again, I'm the type of person who likes awful stuff like Troll 2, so... feel free to take any of my opinions with a grain of salt. :lol:

Darthknuxward
10-20-2014, 03:33 PM
Hey dude, PM me if you ever want to chat Next Mutation stuff, as I'm one of the few that likes it (for me, it's in the "so bad it's good" category! :trazz:)

Then again, I'm the type of person who likes awful stuff like Troll 2, so... feel free to take any of my opinions with a grain of salt. :lol:

I'm with you on it being so bad it's good. Whenever I need something lighthearted and as non-serious as you can get, I turn on this show.

Candy Kappa
10-20-2014, 03:39 PM
Any reason?

and where do I go to discuss it?

In General TMNT Discussion.

pennydreadful
10-23-2014, 09:26 PM
I'm with you on it being so bad it's good. Whenever I need something lighthearted and as non-serious as you can get, I turn on this show.

Word. There is a great deal of enjoyment to be had in terrible tv shows and movies. People like me are the reason Charles Band has a career. :P

turtlefanforever
02-27-2015, 09:34 AM
I think there should be one. If the PD movie gets it's own sub forum then the next mutation should get it's own. There at least should have been or should be a vote or something

Mew
02-27-2015, 09:45 AM
I think there should be one. If the PD movie gets it's own sub forum then the next mutation should get it's own. There at least should have been or should be a vote or something
Yes. I like Next Mutation.
Ask Krang about it.

Candy Kappa
02-27-2015, 10:03 AM
I think there should be one. If the PD movie gets it's own sub forum then the next mutation should get it's own. There at least should have been or should be a vote or something

NM don't really need it's own section, though. It's a 26 episode show and little else, they toys based on the show is dealt in the toy section.

The PD movie(s) got their own section becasue people can't have a civil discussion about that specific portion of the franchise, and instead of having a constant lockdown on the movie section, there is now a managable sub-section for the PD movies.

We don't need a NM section as we don't need a Turtle Tunes/Turtle Christmas section, or a Blue Line section or a TMNT OVA section. It's to niche, and too silly.

turtlefanforever
02-27-2015, 10:40 AM
NM don't really need it's own section, though. It's a 26 episode show and little else, they toys based on the show is dealt in the toy section.

The PD movie(s) got their own section becasue people can't have a civil discussion about that specific portion of the franchise, and instead of having a constant lockdown on the movie section, there is now a managable sub-section for the PD movies.

We don't need a NM section as we don't need a Turtle Tunes/Turtle Christmas section, or a Blue Line section or a TMNT OVA section. It's to niche, and too silly.

1 is needed. If anything you helped make the argument for it. People can't be civil about the PD movie, so they made it's own subforum for people who like it.

Hence do the same thing for People who like The Next mutation. There needs to be a safe place to talk about it. We don't need a thread every once in a while they just gets chewed out as soon as it appears by petty people. Also they get buried so quick that it's likely for the same thread to appear multiple times. If you don't like it, don't go into the universe. Simple as that.

You're letting your personal opinions of the show blind you. It deserves it's own

Candy Kappa
02-27-2015, 11:04 AM
1 is needed. If anything you helped make the argument for it. People can't be civil about the PD movie, so they made it's own subforum for people who like it.

What are you talking about, my post do not "help" thh argument in any bit, comapring people debating over Next Muation versus Platinum Dunes, is completely asinine, and in no way comparable. It's like apples and oranges, as people tend to be civil about NM.

Hence do the same thing for People who like The Next mutation. There needs to be a safe place to talk about it. We don't need a thread every once in a while they just gets chewed out as soon as it appears by petty people.

That is in no way what the PD section is for. It's not a "safe haven" for sheltered fragile flowers that can't handle a debate. It's a separate section, so when the next huge argument hits and the section needs to be in a lockdown so people can cool off, it won't lock down the rest of the movie section. Next Mutation need no such thing.


Also they get buried so quick that it's likely for the same thread to appear multiple times. If you don't like it, don't go into the universe. Simple as that.

Pssst, we have a search function that works great.

You're letting your personal opinions of the show blind you. It deserves it's own

I like Next Mutation, I've seen the show several times, so don't come here and think you know what's what, casue you clearly don't.

Mew
02-27-2015, 11:05 AM
We still need the section.

turtlefanforever
02-27-2015, 11:56 AM
In general discussion the threads are just left to go to crap. In TNM discussion the stupid comments will get deleted and the actual fans can talk and have compelling idea's and discussions. For example: what could have been, what you liked, what you wish they did, fav characters, ect.

There needs to be a discussion universe for it. The Next mutation bigotry has to stop.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
02-27-2015, 12:32 PM
Don't tell me we're gonna argue about whether or not we're gonna argue about Next Mutation.

Dammit, Venus, even when people like you, you cause nothing but trouble!!! :tmad:

Candy Kappa
02-27-2015, 12:39 PM
In general discussion the threads are just left to go to crap. In TNM discussion the stupid comments will get deleted and the actual fans can talk and have compelling idea's and discussions. For example: what could have been, what you liked, what you wish they did, fav characters, ect.

There needs to be a discussion universe for it. The Next mutation bigotry has to stop.

Why does a short-lived Live-action show from Saban need special treatment comapred to the rest of the franchsie and the forums?

These threads can easily be made in the general section, where it belongs. A separate section doesn't change any of the things you wrote.

Autbot_Benz
02-27-2015, 03:32 PM
Why does a short-lived Live-action show from Saban need special treatment comapred to the rest of the franchsie and the forums?

I agree with this no other part of the Turtles franchise gets special treatment why should a short lived crappy saban show get that.

In general discussion the threads are just left to go to crap. In TNM discussion the stupid comments will get deleted and the actual fans can talk and have compelling idea's and discussions. For example: what could have been, what you liked, what you wish they did, fav characters, ect.

There needs to be a discussion universe for it. The Next mutation bigotry has to stop.
Are you Serious you are the biggest Butthurt person on this forum. People crap on the 2014 movie all the damn time on this forum so expect people to crap on Next Mutation. its a forum people have the right to say what they want whether they like something or don't.

Nameless
02-27-2015, 09:35 PM
In general discussion the threads are just left to go to crap. In TNM discussion the stupid comments will get deleted and the actual fans can talk and have compelling idea's and discussions. For example: what could have been, what you liked, what you wish they did, fav characters, ect.

There needs to be a discussion universe for it. The Next mutation bigotry has to stop.

pretty sure most if not all those topics have been discussed at some point. use the search tool.


and there is no need for a separate sub forum for TNM. if we have survived this many years without one i'm sure we can continue to do so. and for the record i enjoyed the show.

pennydreadful
02-28-2015, 02:58 AM
In general discussion the threads are just left to go to crap. In TNM discussion the stupid comments will get deleted and the actual fans can talk and have compelling idea's and discussions. For example: what could have been, what you liked, what you wish they did, fav characters, ect.

There needs to be a discussion universe for it. The Next mutation bigotry has to stop.

Dude, someone not liking a Ninja Turtles show is not bigotry. Take a deep breath and stop being hysterical. Different people in the fandom like and dislike different parts of the franchise. It's called having opinions and preferences.

If every stupid comment posted in these forums got deleted and every annoying or rude person here got banned or shut down for having a dissenting opinion, we'd be down at least 40 - 50% of our members. (The cynical mind might say that if that were a rule, I probably wouldn't even be here to post this message).

Dealing with irritating people on the internet is just part of life - deliver the occasional slap-down as needed but by and large, you have to be able to tune them out or stick them on ignore. People only have as much power over your emotions as you give them - just talk to the people who you enjoy conversing with and ignore the ones you don't.

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Netkeeper
02-28-2015, 03:03 AM
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Autbot_Benz
02-28-2015, 11:28 AM
Dude, someone not liking a Ninja Turtles show is not bigotry. Take a deep breath and stop being hysterical. Different people in the fandom like and dislike different parts of the franchise. It's called having opinions and preferences.

If every stupid comment posted in these forums got deleted and every annoying or rude person here got banned or shut down for having a dissenting opinion, we'd be down at least 40 - 50% of our members. (The cynical mind might say that if that were a rule, I probably wouldn't even be here to post this message).

Dealing with irritating people on the internet is just part of life - deliver the occasional slap-down as needed but by and large, you have to be able to tune them out or stick them on ignore. People only have as much power over your emotions as you give them - just talk to the people who you enjoy conversing with and ignore the ones you don't.

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Also turtlefanforever is a bit of a hypocrite he wants people to stop hating on TNM when I have caught him hating on the Nick show and 2014 movie.

sdp
03-01-2015, 09:52 PM
I kind of wish there was a rule against bashing TNM in TNM threads that aren't about bashing it. I understand the "**** VENUS THAT SHOW SUXXORS" in a "Is TNM any good?" thread but it's annoying to find those type of comments in a thread dedicated to other things like "What's the best episode of TNM" or "Who would you want to return?" or whatever. I'm not saying every post has to be positive, just constructive, you can easily post "Man I'd rather not see anyone return from TNM because the Dragonlord is a bit generic of a character and Dr. Quease is too similar to Baxter." instead of "NO ALL CHARACTERS ARE TEH SUCK". It really should be a temporary bannable offence to troll a TNM thread that is not discussing the quality of the show.

pennydreadful
03-02-2015, 02:14 AM
I don't know about the bannable part, sdp - but I am in full agreement that criticism of TNM isn't the problem: it's the lack of constructive criticism that gets really old. There's only so many times you can read variations on "This is the worst thing in Turtles history" before it loses all meaning.

When I don't like something, I at least put in a bit of effort to explain what it is I don't dig about it - I don't just bang out two or three generic sentences which don't say much of anything at all. Not every comment has to be positive, but it makes for very boring conversation when people don't make an effort to bring something to the table.

Nameless
03-02-2015, 08:34 AM
i've always held the opinion of "this sucks" isn't helpful, "this Sucks and here are the reasons it sucks" is very helpful. half the time i'de rather that type of comments over even a "this is good" comment when the person is just saying it to be nice.

sdp
03-04-2015, 10:31 PM
There's a difference between moderating a section of a forum full of users constantly posting about the latest movie and their opinion about it and a thread that pops up from time to time of a show that ended nearly 20 years ago.

ToTheNines
03-07-2015, 05:00 AM
I'm surprised no-one mentioned the fact that it was only 26 episodes (which, embarrassingly enough somehow included TWO clip shows).

It'd be like having a special section just for the Image TMNT volume 3 books. Or New Animated Adventures.

Mew
03-07-2015, 05:43 AM
So we all agree that we need the section.
Problem fixed. :twink:

Candy Kappa
03-07-2015, 06:06 AM
No, cause a TNM section is completely unnecessary.

Mew
03-07-2015, 06:07 AM
Yes it is. Its a great series.
The Fred Wolf, Nick ect. have there own sections, and this needs it, too.

Candy Kappa
03-07-2015, 06:26 AM
Um, no. The Fred Wolf show do not have its own section, it's in the General TMNT section.

Aaronardo
03-07-2015, 02:59 PM
TNM was a one-season long corn-fest often laughed at or shunned by people in the TMNT fandom. Tell me why that deserves its own section.

sdp
03-07-2015, 05:30 PM
What could be argued is that the OT needs its own section and "General TMNT" which includes TNM be separated. There's plenty of "general" non OT topics, and the OT while an old show is what made the turtles popular not to mention this very website is dedicated to that cartoon so for it to share a section with all other general TMNT stuff is not fair. You have to remember that the movies were included in the general TMNT section at first but because of the 2007 film we got so many topics on that that movies were given their own section. So yeah, give the OT it's own section, it gets enough topics to warrant it instead of those topics being snubbed by other non OT TMNT threads that pop up in general.

Autbot_Benz
03-07-2015, 05:32 PM
TNM was a one-season long corn-fest often laughed at or shunned by people in the TMNT fandom. Tell me why that deserves its own section.

somebody gets it. But becareful Butthurt turtlefanforever will get upset by that post.