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Netkeeper
03-09-2015, 08:36 PM
Apparently seasons 1 and 2 of 2k3 are on iTunes finally. If anyone can confirm this, I'd appreciate it!

TigerClaw
03-09-2015, 08:45 PM
I checked, The only one I find is Turtles Forever. There are TMNT 2k3 comics in the book section.

Powder
03-09-2015, 08:46 PM
Yep, seems they are. $19.99 a piece. Tigerclaw doesn't know how to use itunes. :tlol:

Netkeeper
03-09-2015, 08:48 PM
I hope this means we're one step closer to a DVD rerelease.

CyberCubed
03-09-2015, 08:51 PM
See, I told you people Nick would eventually sell the 4kids series. Why didn't any of you listen to me?

Its very obviously going to get DVD sets sometime soon. Shout Factory will most likely announce it and release the entire series.

TigerClaw
03-09-2015, 08:54 PM
Yep, seems they are. $19.99 a piece. Tigerclaw doesn't know how to use itunes. :tlol:
Found it! Here's the link to Season 1.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/id955585446?showLC=true

And Season 2.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/id955585754?showLC=true

CyberCubed
03-09-2015, 09:12 PM
See everyone, sometimes good things come to those who wait. I imagine the entire series will be uploaded to itunes and DVD sets shall follow shortly.

And you people sat there complaining for years for nothing. We are finally getting our just desserts.

FoxBoxKid
03-09-2015, 09:58 PM
It's also on Amazon, seasons one (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UFE9O9Y/) and two (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TRFTTRO/). Interestingly, the given original airdates are actually those of the Nicktoons marathon in December.

CyberCubed
03-09-2015, 10:41 PM
Makes me wonder if we'll see Seasons 3 and 4 air on Nicktoons first before they're put up for download, similar to the first two seasons.

Gunstar_Red
03-09-2015, 10:56 PM
I really hope this means DVDs! I still haven't seen 'Back to the Sewer' (although I don't have high hopes for that season) since it was never on DVD. I still kick myself for selling my DVDs years ago when I had to move...

So excited! ^_^

FoxBoxKid
03-09-2015, 10:59 PM
Makes me wonder if we'll see Seasons 3 and 4 air on Nicktoons first before they're put up for download, similar to the first two seasons.

What about seasons 5-7?

Netkeeper
03-09-2015, 11:10 PM
It's also on Amazon, seasons one (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UFE9O9Y/) and two (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TRFTTRO/). Interestingly, the given original airdates are actually those of the Nicktoons marathon in December.
Wait, I don't know much about how Amazon does these things, but are these among those videos I can watch for free on Amazon on my Wii U and/or Smart TV? I have a Prime account and can watch some things on Amazon for free because of it.

CyberCubed
03-09-2015, 11:33 PM
What about seasons 5-7?

Well obviously I expect to see the whole series eventually, but they seem to be going in batches of 2 seasons at a time. They only put the first 2 seasons up despite Season 3 being a better one to stop at since Ch'rell was defeated and Season 3 was a good stopping point for the meantime.

My guess is we'll see Seasons 3-4 at some point, then some months later Seasons 5-7...

FoxBoxKid
03-10-2015, 12:26 AM
Wait, I don't know much about how Amazon does these things, but are these among those videos I can watch for free on Amazon on my Wii U and/or Smart TV? I have a Prime account and can watch some things on Amazon for free because of it.

If it was free with Prime, there would be a banner on the corner of the picture that has the Prime logo. The show's not free.

Netkeeper
03-10-2015, 12:31 AM
If it was free with Prime, there would be a banner on the corner of the picture that has the Prime logo. The show's not free.
Wait, seriously? :( God damn it. That Prime account is expensive and we should be able to watch EVERYTHING on it.

FoxBoxKid
03-10-2015, 12:50 AM
Wait, seriously? :( God damn it. That Prime account is expensive and we should be able to watch EVERYTHING on it.

They have a lot of good stuff, though. For instance, I'm currently binging Batman: The Animated Series. Netflix doesn't have everything, and Amazon Prime also includes free two-day shipping on most items.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-10-2015, 05:28 AM
Wow!

Maybe DVD sets aren't too far behind!

We can only hope...

neatoman
03-10-2015, 05:41 AM
Holy crap it seems to work internationally, maybe this will be the first time I buy something from iTunes rather than just getting free stuff.

CyberCubed
03-10-2015, 11:46 AM
Wow!

Maybe DVD sets aren't too far behind!

We can only hope...

Its logical to assume DVD releases will follow after an itunes upload. I fully expect Shout Factory to get the distribution rights.

Rejoice, my fellow 2k3 series fans. Judgement day is finally upon us!

TigerClaw
03-10-2015, 12:02 PM
It wont be long til they release a Box Set, with all the seasons, Which should include Fast Forward and Back in the Sewer.

Bry
03-10-2015, 12:39 PM
Awesome development! I've still got my season 1 and 2 DVD sets, but I'm missing about half of 3 and 4 (because I skipped most of the single-disc releases and waited for the season sets to continue and they never did) so hopefully they put the next couple up before too long!

That or a boxed set, yeah. I'd buy that in a second.

The Turtle Terminator
03-10-2015, 01:00 PM
Not available in the UK. Dang it. Talk about a way to ruin a good day:x

neatoman
03-10-2015, 01:20 PM
Not available in the UK. Dang it. Talk about a way to ruin a good day:x

Yeah I was mistaken before, does not work here in Sweden either.

rickwj324
03-10-2015, 02:14 PM
I'm so relieved to hear this. I've thought about trying to pick up all of the volumes many times, but couldn't justify the cost. I'm hoping for a nice complete series set (like the FW Party Wagon set) soon! Day 1 purchase for me!!

blindturtle02
03-10-2015, 04:22 PM
Kick a$$! I hope this means more are on the way, including an uncut Turtles Forever.

CyberCubed
03-10-2015, 09:49 PM
So did anyone download an episode? I'm curious as to the quality and if they keep the full openings/endings.

FlawedCoil82
03-10-2015, 11:45 PM
I am still not getting my hopes up yet. There are many shows that are available exclusively on itunes that have still never seen a physical dvd release. For example, I know 'X-Men Evolution' is one of those.

PangolinFeets
03-10-2015, 11:53 PM
I am still not getting my hopes up yet. There are many shows that are available exclusively on itunes that have still never seen a physical dvd release. For example, I know 'X-Men Evolution' is one of those.

Ouch, my aching heart. I love Evo. :(

I really do hope this means DVD release. I never got to properly watch the 2003 series and I'd be happy to grab it on DVD and just marathon it.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-11-2015, 05:41 AM
So did anyone download an episode? I'm curious as to the quality and if they keep the full openings/endings.

And does it have those annoying "TV-Y7" ratings at the top like the DVD did? That was ridiculous...

CyberCubed
03-11-2015, 02:31 PM
A single episode is only $1.99, why doesn't someone just buy the first episode, "Things Change" just to see the quality and how its presented?

None of you have $2 to spend?

Bry
03-11-2015, 02:48 PM
A single episode is only $1.99, why doesn't someone just buy the first episode, "Things Change" just to see the quality and how its presented?

None of you have $2 to spend?

Why don't you just buy an episode if you're so desperate to see it?

Even if you're not in a region it's available, still... other peoples' money and time aren't something at your command, dude. Yeesh.

TigerClaw
03-11-2015, 02:53 PM
Btw, iTunes appears to be down, Its been down since this morning, You can't download any Apps or Purchases, Just to let you know.

CyberCubed
03-11-2015, 03:13 PM
Why don't you just buy an episode if you're so desperate to see it?

Even if you're not in a region it's available, still... other peoples' money and time aren't something at your command, dude. Yeesh.

I don't have an itunes account.

neatoman
03-11-2015, 04:08 PM
I don't have an itunes account.

Why not make one?

Bry
03-11-2015, 04:27 PM
I don't have an itunes account.

Do you have a credit card and two minutes?

Gunpowder
03-11-2015, 04:57 PM
As desperate as I am to own some 2K3 episodes...if I bought these, then I'd have to buy the HD episodes of the Nick show, too; but I think I'll stick with waiting for the physical copies, even though it'll be a long time before either is released.

Buy digital copies now, and then regret it once the hard copies finally come out? Nah. I'll wait. I'm patient enough - and if not, there's youtube.

A single episode is only $1.99, why doesn't someone just buy the first episode, "Things Change" just to see the quality and how its presented?

None of you have $2 to spend?

Why don't you just buy an episode if you're so desperate to see it?

Beat me to it. Although, I do share Cubed's query.

The-Shredder
03-11-2015, 07:43 PM
Although I have yet to buy an episode, from my observations, the preview videos shown on iTunes seem to appear grainy, kind of like a movie shot on film. When compared with other sources, there is little to no grain in the image.

Also, the previews on iTunes appear to be slightly zoomed in more than the source I have, with slightly different colors. I've noticed this when the episodes were uploaded on nick.com as well. Perhaps the original source was like this. Then again, the grain does give the show a more cinematic feel, which actually makes it a bit more exciting in my opinion.

iTunes
http://s30.postimg.org/qtogd4gbh/leo2.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/qtogd4gbh/)

Other Source
http://s2.postimg.org/6ocal041x/leo.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/6ocal041x/)

Drose18
03-11-2015, 08:52 PM
Anyone know if this is in better quality then the youtube uploads?

THGhost
03-12-2015, 03:23 PM
Not available on iTunes UK. Typical. :roll:

This is good news though, looks very promising. Bring on the DVD announcement! I don't care if they're region 1-only, they shall be mine! :D

I am still not getting my hopes up yet. There are many shows that are available exclusively on itunes that have still never seen a physical dvd release. For example, I know 'X-Men Evolution' is one of those.

That's not completely true. The first 2 seasons were released in volumes, only seasons 3 & 4 were never released - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men:_Evolution#DVD

Although I have yet to buy an episode, from my observations, the preview videos shown on iTunes seem to appear grainy, kind of like a movie shot on film. When compared with other sources, there is little to no grain in the image.

Also, the previews on iTunes appear to be slightly zoomed in more than the source I have, with slightly different colors. I've noticed this when the episodes were uploaded on nick.com as well. Perhaps the original source was like this. Then again, the grain does give the show a more cinematic feel, which actually makes it a bit more exciting in my opinion.

iTunes
http://s30.postimg.org/qtogd4gbh/leo2.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/qtogd4gbh/)

Other Source
http://s2.postimg.org/6ocal041x/leo.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/6ocal041x/)

Hell yeah. Grain is great. :tcool:

TheSkeletonMan939
03-12-2015, 04:07 PM
That's not grain so much as it is pixelation resulting from a bad transcoding job. The colors look off too.

Keep in mind the preview may look a little different from the final product.

This (http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/screenshots/demolition_man_12.png)is what film grain looks like.

THGhost
03-12-2015, 04:31 PM
If Shout Factory does get the rights, I'm sure they'll give us best quality possible.

The-Shredder
03-12-2015, 05:13 PM
That's not grain so much as it is pixelation resulting from a bad transcoding job. The colors look off too.

Keep in mind the preview may look a little different from the final product.

This (http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/screenshots/demolition_man_12.png)is what film grain looks like.

If you say so. Here's another example.

iTunes
http://s1.postimg.org/3kui3thfv/image.png (http://postimg.org/image/3kui3thfv/)

Other Source
http://s1.postimg.org/smx1gnnuz/image.png (http://postimg.org/image/smx1gnnuz/)

TheSkeletonMan939
03-12-2015, 06:15 PM
It's clearer in that shot that it's just incredible pixelation, not grain.

As much as a grainy look would suit the first season or so of the series, it's something they just didn't do.

THGhost
03-12-2015, 07:01 PM
It's clearer in that shot that it's just incredible pixelation, not grain.

As much as a grainy look would suit the first season or so of the series, it's something they just didn't do.

I don't think grain is on the list of priorities for on-demand streaming though. DVD/Blu-rays are a different story. :D

CyberCubed
03-14-2015, 12:05 PM
Shout Factory's DVDs/blu-rays are usually great quality. If Shout Factory handles the 4kids DVDs they should be done great.

Spike Spiegel
03-15-2015, 11:29 AM
Maybe we'll see the entire series on sale at Wal-Mart in a single set for $20, like with Danny Phantom, Hey Arnold, CatDog, Angry Beavers, and Rocko's Modern Life.

For that, I could live with that big ugly orange Nick logo on the front.

MrPliggins
03-15-2015, 04:01 PM
I seem to remember Shout Factory expressing disinterest in releasing the series back when Funimation lost the license.

Spike Spiegel
03-16-2015, 11:23 AM
I seem to remember Shout Factory expressing disinterest in releasing the series back when Funimation lost the license.

Wasn't that right after Nick bought the franchise? Or was it before...?

I'm sure opinions could change after the success of the new series and the movie.

John Pannozzi
03-17-2015, 05:04 PM
Shout Factory's DVDs/blu-rays are usually great quality. If Shout Factory handles the 4kids DVDs they should be done great.

Unfortunately, Shout! has no more Nick DVDs in the pipeline. (https://www.facebook.com/groups/373630192647892/permalink/992555484088690/)

THGhost
03-17-2015, 08:23 PM
Unfortunately, Shout! has no more Nick DVDs in the pipeline. (https://www.facebook.com/groups/373630192647892/permalink/992555484088690/)

Well that sucks. :ohwell: Any other companies in mind, guys?

TheSkeletonMan939
03-18-2015, 05:27 AM
If Nick is really interested in distributing the 2003 series, then they'll probably do it themselves.

THGhost
03-18-2015, 09:01 AM
If Nick is really interested in distributing the 2003 series, then they'll probably do it themselves.

That'll be the day. :P

neatoman
03-18-2015, 09:04 AM
That'll be the day. :P

But they already have...

THGhost
03-19-2015, 11:42 AM
But they already have...

Only releasing Turtles Forever on DVD (and botching the US release) does not count. :lol: Unless you're talking about digital distribution (Nick.com, iTunes, etc), we're talking about DVDs.

neatoman
03-19-2015, 01:19 PM
Only releasing Turtles Forever on DVD (and botching the US release) does not count. :lol: Unless you're talking about digital distribution (Nick.com, iTunes, etc), we're talking about DVDs.

One marathon, an iTunes release of a third of the episodes and a botched release of Turtles Forever may be less than it deserves but it's still distribution.

THGhost
03-19-2015, 06:31 PM
One marathon, an iTunes release of a third of the episodes and a botched release of Turtles Forever may be less than it deserves but it's still distribution.

Hardly. Certainly not worth $10 million, even for digital distribution.

And 2 seasons is not 1/3 of 7 seasons. :P

The-Shredder
03-26-2015, 12:16 AM
I decided to take the plunge and purchase with some spare Amazon gift card money one episode from season 1, that being "Attack of the Mousers". I was pleasantly surprised to find that the video quality is practically the same as the previous DVD rip that I had before.

The most apparent thing about the video is that it includes the bumpers for commercial breaks. I know some people find this annoying, but personally it doesn't bother me. Also, there is no TV-Y7 FV rating on the upper left hand corner. This may be different with other episodes though, so I have to buy those later to make sure. For some reason, I feared that the credits wouldn't be in the video because they weren't on nick.com, but they are fully intact here, with the intro playing on the left side of the screen and the credits rolling on the right, along with the Mirage logo and original 4Kids logo at the end. Aside from the video cover art, no Nickelodeon branding is present.

Here's the somewhat bad news. While watching, significant artifacts appear at the bottom of the screen along with loud screeching noises from 06:36-06:38. I emailed Amazon, they refunded me, and are making sure to resolve the issue soon, so props to Amazon there. Another problem is that the list for Season 2, which I have yet to purchase, is missing the episodes "Secret Origins - Part 1", and "Big Brawl - Part 3". I also asked Amazon about this, and they assume that it's a decision from the content provider, and not a fault on their end, since both Google/YouTube and iTunes have those two episodes. I need to get back to them later about this issue.

The colors are the same, the picture looks the same, yet both versions of the video have their own very faint signs of macroblocking, pixelation, or aliasing that are noticeable if you actually take the time to pause the video, so it's nothing to fuss over. Some of it has to do with the original source from 4Kids, which is unfortunate. In some places, the video from Amazon looks better, in some places the DVD rip I have looks better, but it's barely noticeable. Also, the video from Amazon (and I believe iTunes as well) has like less than half a cm cut off on the sides of the picture, but it's no big deal.

Here's a collection of screenshots that I took to compare. The screenshot from the Amazon video is the first image you will see in a series of 2 images each. I would have taken native screenshots, but Amazon has DRM in place so you can only play the videos using Amazon's Instant Video player online and Windows Media Player or Amazon's Unbox player offline. Remember, I am comparing the Amazon version. I don't know what exactly the full iTunes version looks like, aside from the previews.

http://imgur.com/a/cWoTa

Also, some information for any videophiles out there. :D

Amazon

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Overall bit rate mode : Variable
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Encryption : http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/licensing.html?CID=LP7E5of1PUuXAObEyOY40Q==
Encoded date : UTC 2015-02-19 07:02:04.672
WM/ContentDistributor : Amazon.com
Amazon/ASIN : B00UFECWMK
Amazon/Type : Content

Video
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Format profile : Advanced@L3
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Duration : 21mn 53s
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Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.339
Stream size : 391 MiB (92%)
Encryption : Encrypted

Audio
ID : 1
Format : WMA
Format profile : Pro
Codec ID : 162
Codec ID/Info : Windows Media Audio
Description of the codec : Windows Media Audio 10 Professional - 192 kbps, 48 kHz, 2 channel 24 bit 2-pass VBR
Duration : 21mn 53s
Bit rate mode : Variable
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Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Stream size : 30.0 MiB (7%)
Encryption : Encrypted

DVD rip

General
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Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 174 MiB
Duration : 21mn 16s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
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Encoded date : UTC 2007-12-03 14:39:25
Tagged date : UTC 2007-12-03 14:39:25

Video
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Format : AVC
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Format profile : High@L5.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 13 frames
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Height : 480 pixels
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Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.091
Stream size : 143 MiB (82%)
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Writing library : x264 core 57 svn-700
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=10 / deblock=1:-2:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=6 / brdo=1 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=3 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / bime=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=942 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30
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The-Shredder
03-28-2015, 07:55 PM
So, after browsing through some of the other episodes, I found that the same artifacting problem that I experienced with "Attack of the Mousers" is also prevalent in "Search for Splinter - Part 1" and "Return of the Justice Force". Also, some of the episodes of Season 2 in particular have some serious quality issues. They are blurry and pixelated, when the rest of the episodes are quite clear and sharp. The episode "Junklantis" also freezes halfway through and stays that way for the rest of the episode.

Also, two episodes "Secret Origins - Part 1" and "Big Brawl - Part 3" are not listed. Even worse, "What a Croc!" is actually a duplicate of "City at War - Part 1". I don't believe these same problems exist on iTunes or Google Play/YouTube.

Luckily, I bought these using free gift card credits, so it's not a total loss. However, I am still very disappointed with Amazon, and I don't think I will be buying shows from them again after this debacle, so I advise anyone looking to buy these collectively to either wait a while until they fix these issues (which may never be certain without buying them, since there are no previews), or choose another source.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-28-2015, 08:11 PM
Thanks for analyzing those for us, The-Shredder! I almost feel like it's justice that you didn't have to pay any money for these episodes.

Given Nick's completely crappy job at handling the upcoming DVDs, I feel that it could honestly be a quality control issue on Nick's part.

Even if Amazon is the only place with those issues you mentioned above, it's more likely that the monkey-brained incompetents working for Nick gave Amazon horrible copies of the episodes, but somehow got it right for iTunes, etc.

It could be an issue on Amazon's part, but think about it: what are the chances that so many episodes of the same series could have poor quality due to an error on Amazon's part? Possible, but not likely. It's more probable that it's an issue from the source: Nickelodeon.

I can tell you one thing: Nick would never make such mistakes when dealing with their own show. They're probably so insultingly indifferent to the 4Kids series that they don't even care about distributing quality products for this show and only want to scrape as much cash out of fans' pockets as they can without exerting any effort.

I'm a little flabbergasted that the audio is 192kbps, but 24-bit at the same time. Why would they do that?

Also: I think it's a little bit pointless to include the specs for your DVDrip, since I assume you encoded it at whatever bitrate settings you prefer rather than do it through MakeMKV or something like that and have a perfect copy of what's on the DVD. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.

The-Shredder
03-28-2015, 08:48 PM
Also: I think it's a little bit pointless to include the specs for your DVDrip, since I assume you encoded it at whatever bitrate settings you prefer rather than do it through MakeMKV or something like that and have a perfect copy of what's on the DVD. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.

Truth be told, I previously got the DVD rip from another source, but intended to purchase the episodes on Amazon to get them legally, even if they aren't perfect for now. Digital distribution isn't my first choice for movies and T.V. shows, except when the physical release is either inferior or when it doesn't seem like it will get one anytime soon.

I am thinking about using VUDU in the future for such purposes. Their standard definition video quality from streaming a 2 minute preview looks a lot better than what Amazon is currently offering. Unfortunately, they don't have TMNT 2003 at the moment, but they do seem to have everything else that's TMNT.

Netkeeper
03-29-2015, 06:24 PM
****ing incredible.

That's all I have to say about this.

Aaronardo
03-29-2015, 07:26 PM
Nick can't handle their money well, I suppose. $10 million down the drain so they can completely throw this show in the dirt and kick it around like it was a two-week old meatloaf. This is just pathetic.

AKaun6899
03-29-2015, 07:51 PM
Aside from the video cover art, no Nickelodeon branding is present.

So there isn't even a Nickelodeon bumper at the very beginning of the episode?

sdp
03-29-2015, 08:05 PM
They didn't pay 10 million for the 2k3 show as most people assume. The 10 million basically took 4Kids licensing deals and the show. The most important thing here is the licensing deals that 4Kids had made with Mirage, it was also a way to get 4Kids to stop airing the show or releasing future DVDs or whatever digitally which could hurt Viacom. Unlike the OT or TNM, 2k3 was not dated and had just recently finished its run. So yeah it was money well spent even if the show is left to rot in the Viacom shelf. I would think that by now they've already recovered their investment many times over with the new show/movie and licensing deals they've done.

The-Shredder
03-29-2015, 09:04 PM
So there isn't even a Nickelodeon bumper at the very beginning of the episode?

Nope. Also, no TV rating at the top left hand corner either. However, there are the commercial break bumpers that were used on the DVDs, if that concerns you.

AKaun6899
03-29-2015, 09:37 PM
Nope. Also, no TV rating at the top left hand corner either. However, there are the commercial break bumpers that were used on the DVDs, if that concerns you.
Oh. I never had any of the 2K3 DVDs, so the bumpers aren't a huge deal for me.

MrPliggins
03-29-2015, 10:27 PM
To me those bumpers are really annoying, and take me out of the episode. The absence of those was a big selling point of season 1 and 2 DVD season sets for me.

AKaun6899
03-30-2015, 09:04 AM
I assume you're going to contact Amazon on the other issues you found (Repeats, an episode freezing halfway through)? With that said, does Junklantis just freeze outright, video AND audio, or is the audio still heard after that point?

The-Shredder
03-30-2015, 10:18 AM
I assume you're going to contact Amazon on the other issues you found (Repeats, an episode freezing halfway through)? With that said, does Junklantis just freeze outright, video AND audio, or is the audio still heard after that point?

I have contacted Amazon numerous times, but they don't seem to be doing anything about it at the moment. And yes, "Junklantis" freezes at the moment where Donatello puts on the Garbageman's minion's helmet and the audio cuts out for the rest of the episode. I think the audio popped in randomly near the end, but I'm not sure.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-30-2015, 10:25 AM
Man, it kind of hurts to see Nickelodeon kick this show around like a can in the street.

It'd be illegal, but we oughta just design our own DVD menus and such and put up an ISO somewhere for people to burn to disc.

When the show is virtually unwatchable through legal means, I think it's justifiable to start pirating.

Bry
03-30-2015, 10:40 AM
And yes, "Junklantis" freezes at the moment where Donatello puts on the Garbageman's minion's helmet and the audio cuts out for the rest of the episode. I think the audio popped in randomly near the end, but I'm not sure.

Well... at least it didn't happen on a better episode? :trazz:

Man, it kind of hurts to see Nickelodeon kick this show around like a can in the street.

It'd be illegal, but we oughta just design our own DVD menus and such and put up an ISO somewhere for people to burn to disc.

When the show is virtually unwatchable through legal means, I think it's justifiable to start pirating.

That's pretty much my stance too. I'll gladly pay for an official release, sometimes multiple times, but if the quality's this bad and it's available... elsewhere... I think it's totally fair to go with that.

Luke795
03-30-2015, 12:11 PM
I bought both seasons on iTunes. I thought the quality was pretty good.

AKaun6899
03-30-2015, 12:15 PM
I bought both seasons on iTunes. I thought the quality was pretty good.
Any issues similar to what The-Shredder reported?

The-Shredder
03-30-2015, 03:04 PM
I bought both seasons on iTunes. I thought the quality was pretty good.

Could you post a screenshot of an episode, preferably from "Things Change" when Leo and Raph are arguing with each other in the beginning?

The-Shredder
03-30-2015, 05:23 PM
I would just like to clarify that some of the screenshots I took earlier from the Amazon video were from the downloaded WMV file I got from Amazon Unbox for PC, which is no longer available. However, you can still download Amazon videos to your mobile devices.

When streaming, some of those screenshots I took should be considered inaccurate of what you are actually going to get from Amazon. For example, the pixelated moonlight at the beginning of "Attack of the Mousers" from my previous screenshot is nowhere to be seen when streaming the video from the Amazon website or the Instant Video application (I used my PlayStation 3). However, that's because the first second or so of the downloaded video is a little pixelated and then returns to normal quality. However, the quality of the downloaded video is a lot better than what I got from streaming from the website. Too bad you can only download them on mobile devices now and not on PC. I didn't watch enough on the PlayStation 3 to see the difference.

Also, I wouldn't blame Nickelodeon for the quality issues with the show's release on Amazon Instant Video. I assume they just license it out to different services (iTunes, Amazon Instant Video, Google Play/YouTube, Vudu, Xbox Video, etc.) and the services handle the encoding for their own platform. Usually, there are bound to be small differences between them, but with Amazon, they put out a faulty release for the time being.

Luke795
03-31-2015, 12:41 AM
I don't know how to post screenshots. Some of the episodes did have video glitches, but the audio was great. The video just froze for a second.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-31-2015, 06:05 AM
Apple doesn't want you post screenshots of the video that you bought with your own money. Their damned DRM prevents it. http://tehparadox.com/forum/images/smilies/tsk.gif

I think VLC will be able to play the files, though, and you can take a screenshot from their... give it a try if you're up to it.

Alternatively you can get a program that strips the film of its DRM... you'd probably have to pay for one of those, though, and it may not be worth the trouble at all.

Shark_Blade
03-31-2015, 07:19 AM
For all non-US iTunes users, just create a US account.

Problem solved. Enjoy your 2k3 turtles. ^_^

neatoman
03-31-2015, 09:22 AM
For all non-US iTunes users, just create a US account.

Problem solved. Enjoy your 2k3 turtles. ^_^

Did not consider that, won't that cause problems?

The-Shredder
03-31-2015, 10:21 AM
I don't know how to post screenshots. Some of the episodes did have video glitches, but the audio was great. The video just froze for a second.

On Windows, just pause the video and press the PrtScn key, which is usually near the top row of the keyboard. Then, open Paint, paste, and save your image (preferably in .png format for better quality), which you can upload onto any image hosting site.

On Mac, it's easier. Just hold down down Command (⌘), Shift, and 3, and your image will be automatically saved to the desktop.

On an iPad or iPhone, just hold down the power and home button at the same time.

Apple doesn't want you post screenshots of the video that you bought with your own money. Their damned DRM prevents it.


True, but that's only if you want to take a native screenshot of the video. A plain screenshot of the video running in iTunes will suffice.

dp1230
04-22-2015, 09:11 AM
About to finish season 2 on iTunes with my son and we love the series thus far. It's helping us get through the long wait between episodes of the 2012 series.

Has anybody heard if they will release more seasons on iTunes? I understand if they don't want to invest money in releasing the DVDs but seems like it would be easy to have them on iTunes. We really want to keep watching but the price of the season 3 DVDs on ebay are crazy.

Wonder how the sales of the first two seasons have been on iTunes? I wouldn't have even known they were available if it wasn't for finding this forum. You would think they would do some sort of advertising or something to let people know they are on there.

Sabacooza
04-22-2015, 09:29 AM
You would think they would do some sort of advertising or something to let people know they are on there.They're terrible at promoting and advertising for the shows. It's pretty sad.

neatoman
04-22-2015, 11:02 AM
About to finish season 2 on iTunes with my son and we love the series thus far. It's helping us get through the long wait between episodes of the 2012 series.

Has anybody heard if they will release more seasons on iTunes? I understand if they don't want to invest money in releasing the DVDs but seems like it would be easy to have them on iTunes. We really want to keep watching but the price of the season 3 DVDs on ebay are crazy.

Wonder how the sales of the first two seasons have been on iTunes? I wouldn't have even known they were available if it wasn't for finding this forum. You would think they would do some sort of advertising or something to let people know they are on there.

Sadly, you might have to resort to Youtube for now...

Luke795
01-26-2016, 12:35 PM
Season 3 is on iTunes.

The Turtle Terminator
01-26-2016, 01:20 PM
These have also been released on the UK iTunes. I'm not sure about the rest of the world though

Desslok
01-26-2016, 08:26 PM
Finally! Here's hoping it won't take as long to get season 4.

old_hob88
01-26-2016, 08:40 PM
Not up on amazon yet. Hopefully soon

ABrown
01-27-2016, 11:18 AM
I found season three on amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/New-Blood/dp/B01B3Z78LE/ref=sr_1_32?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1453914867&sr=1-32&keywords=teenage+mutant+ninja+turtles&refinements=p_n_format_browse-bin%3A2650306011

TheSkeletonMan939
01-27-2016, 11:45 AM
Hey look, they put Christmas Aliens in its proper position (at the start of the season).

Also, the Amazon descriptions for each episode are really well written... does anyone know if those are those the original synopses 4Kids provided back in the day, or did Amazon make them themselves?

CyberCubed
01-27-2016, 12:55 PM
I think all these itune uploads are proof proper DVD sets are coming.

ABrown
01-27-2016, 01:18 PM
I think all these itune uploads are proof proper DVD sets are coming.

I disagree. Additional digital releases are only proof that more additional digital releases may be coming.

TheSkeletonMan939
01-27-2016, 01:31 PM
I think all these itune uploads are proof proper DVD sets are coming.

Like it or not (I certainly don't) digital is the way most distributors are going. I assume sales of those hideous DVDs Nick put out a few months back were not entirely satisfactory, or we'd have heard something about more coming by now.

I think if we do get a proper DVD boxset, it would be through a third-party company.

CyberCubed
01-27-2016, 01:46 PM
Shout Factory releases old Nick shows to DVD, they might do TMNT

The-Shredder
01-27-2016, 03:10 PM
I found season three on amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/New-Blood/dp/B01B3Z78LE/ref=sr_1_32?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1453914867&sr=1-32&keywords=teenage+mutant+ninja+turtles&refinements=p_n_format_browse-bin%3A2650306011

Amazon doesn't have the option to purchase the entire season yet, which is usually about $20, compared to purchasing each of the 26 episodes individually for $2.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
01-27-2016, 03:15 PM
Hey look, they put Christmas Aliens in its proper position (at the start of the season).

Also, the Amazon descriptions for each episode are really well written... does anyone know if those are those the original synopses 4Kids provided back in the day, or did Amazon make them themselves?

Amazon made the descriptions themselves; the original 4Kids synopses were also originally hosted on the Mirage/TMNT website, and those aren't them.

ABrown
01-27-2016, 03:17 PM
Amazon doesn't have the option to purchase the entire season yet, which is usually about $20, compared to purchasing each of the 26 episodes individually for $2.

I wonder if seasons one and two were initially like that as well. Perhaps they'll eventually have the entire third season for $20, like they do now with the first two seasons.

Aaronardo
01-27-2016, 04:58 PM
Looks like the episode Bishop's Gambit is missing, at least in the Amazon release. They must be aware of this, since there's a very noticeable hiccup in the numbering system (we jump from #23 to #25 strangely).

old_hob88
01-27-2016, 08:00 PM
Looks like the episode Bishop's Gambit is missing, at least in the Amazon release. They must be aware of this, since there's a very noticeable hiccup in the numbering system (we jump from #23 to #25 strangely).

When season 2 first went up on Amazon, there were two episodes missing, with the numbering still correct. I'll wait a few days and they should have all of the episodes up along with the season pass for it.

Methinks it may be time to rewatch the first two seasons while I wait

sdp
01-31-2016, 04:29 PM
DVD sales are in the trash, unless a company like Shout Factory is interested we won't be getting any DVDs any time soon.

Speedy Cerviche
02-04-2016, 08:28 PM
I wonder why they haven't put this show on vudu yet. They have the Fred wolf cartoon on there and turtles forever.

X
02-06-2016, 08:32 AM
I would easily double dip, and buy all seasons digitally if they would just release it on VUDU. Don't think you can watch Amazon Video anywhere, and if you can, you can't easily look for certain scenes. When you fast forward or rewind, it doesn't show you where you're at like VUDU does.

And, I would also triple dip on the 2K series if they would just release proper season sets with all episodes in order.

veemonjosh
02-07-2016, 06:46 PM
DVD sales are in the trash, unless a company like Shout Factory is interested we won't be getting any DVDs any time soon.

I believe Shout Factory did express interest a few years ago in releasing 2K3, but Nickelodeon told them the license wasn't for sale (likely because this was still early on in the Nickelodeon cartoon's life and they didn't want to create brand confusion). At least, I recall SF's Brian Ward mentioning this somewhere (I can't recall where though). So there's a chance they might get the license at some point.

Vicky82
02-20-2016, 12:21 PM
I've just been on ITunes (UK version) and the 2k3 toon, season 1 to 3 is now up. :D

ABrown
07-02-2017, 06:04 PM
In my rewatch of this series, I keep thinking about how the 17 VHS tapes that I have of episodes that were released from the first three seasons isn't going to be a long term option. Once my working VCRs (that are part of DVD/VCR combos) stop working, that'll probably be the end for my VHS collection. I do have all of the episodes that were released ONLY on DVD after the VHS market completed died. But it just occurred to me that purchasing the first three seasons from amazon is probably my best long term option to have all of the first six seasons of the show available for me to watch whenever I want. Shows being released on DVD is dying market, and Nickelodeon seems to have absolutely no interest in giving this series a proper DVD release. Looks like this series is probably going to end up being my first ever digital purchase of a show/movie.

Edit: Though it appears that the third season is still not available as a "season" set yet. It's only available as individuals episodes. That's frustrating cause it could be nice to have the first full three seasons to be able to watch digitally, and then I could watch seasons 4-6 on dvd.

Krutch
09-20-2017, 08:53 AM
Whats the resolution like in these streaming episodes? HD? And do they include the commercial break "1-2-3-4! Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!" animations?

TheSkeletonMan939
09-20-2017, 10:01 AM
Here's a post from earlier with all the specs. (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1436840&postcount=57)


General
Format : Windows Media
File size : 424 MiB
Duration : 21mn 53s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 2 707 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 6 270 Kbps
Encryption : http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/licen...uXAObEyOY40Q==
Encoded date : UTC 2015-02-19 07:02:04.672
WM/ContentDistributor : Amazon.com
Amazon/ASIN : B00UFECWMK
Amazon/Type : Content

Video
ID : 2
Format : VC-1
Format profile : Advanced@L3
Codec ID : WVC1
Codec ID/Hint : Microsoft
Description of the codec : Windows Media Video 9 Advanced Profile
Duration : 21mn 53s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 2 500 Kbps
Width : 640 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.339
Stream size : 391 MiB (92%)
Encryption : Encrypted

Audio
ID : 1
Format : WMA
Format profile : Pro
Codec ID : 162
Codec ID/Info : Windows Media Audio
Description of the codec : Windows Media Audio 10 Professional - 192 kbps, 48 kHz, 2 channel 24 bit 2-pass VBR
Duration : 21mn 53s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Stream size : 30.0 MiB (7%)
Encryption : Encrypted


If you have no clue what any of it means, it's 4:3 fullscreen, standard definition, just like the DVDs. Bitrate (i.e. level of "quality") is lower than the DVDs though. Audio quality is the same as the DVDs, which were encoded at 192kbps (which is the lowest you're "allowed" to go if you're distributing media).

Krutch
09-20-2017, 10:27 AM
Here's a post from earlier with all the specs. (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1436840&postcount=57)


Thanks for the info, man!

Sucks about the format, though. I'd love to see these get an HD release at some point and online streaming seems to be the best way for it to happen.

TheSkeletonMan939
09-20-2017, 12:22 PM
I doubt the show was even produced in HD. Turtles Forever might have been, though.

Sabacooza
09-20-2017, 06:02 PM
Also take into consideration that it was also done in 4:3 aspect ratio. Any attempt to make it widescreen would either stretch it or cut stuff off.

The-Shredder
09-23-2017, 11:03 AM
Thanks for the info, man!

Sucks about the format, though. I'd love to see these get an HD release at some point and online streaming seems to be the best way for it to happen.

Actually, the quality is still pretty good for SD. It looked great when I was streaming the episodes on my PlayStation 3 with the Amazon Instant Video app. However, some of the episodes had strange visual glitches and freezes in them, so I don't know if all of those have been fixed since they were first released in 2015.

Also, Season 3 on Amazon is a rip off because you can't buy all the episodes for $20, only individually for $1.99. I emailed their support a while back, and they said it would be the decision of the content owner (Viacom) to price it that way, when every other digital store like iTunes has it at the normal price. They said they would fix it, but that was in August, 2016. :ohwell:

Krutch
09-25-2017, 04:52 PM
Actually, the quality is still pretty good for SD. It looked great when I was streaming the episodes on my PlayStation 3 with the Amazon Instant Video app.Yeah I was fine with standard definition until I got an 80" television that I sit about 9 feet away from. Now I need everything in HD :lol:

Also take into consideration that it was also done in 4:3 aspect ratio. Any attempt to make it widescreen would either stretch it or cut stuff off.Oh I wouldn't want to change the 4:3 aspect ration. Just clean up the image itself. Once you start trying to reframe things you end up in another Buffy nightmare (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F28XcxHxH6k&t=8s).

Time Mistress
10-27-2017, 09:43 PM
I just want the full show available in order on DVD or digitally so I can show it to some friends. Why is that too much to ask? :-?:(

wpugh2424
11-20-2017, 05:28 PM
Completeness is an issue for all of the iterations. Recently trying to buy the OT on iTunes and amazon and they are irritating and missing some episodes