Prometheus sequel dated for October 6, 2017

[NinjaPug]

Now titled Alien: Covenant and will be the second part of a trilogy.

"Ridley Scott returns to the universe he created in ALIEN with ALIEN: COVENANT, the second chapter in a prequel trilogy that began with PROMETHEUS -- and connects directly to Scott’s 1979 seminal work of science fiction. Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy, the crew of the colony ship Covenant discovers what they think is an uncharted paradise, but is actually a dark, dangerous world -- whose sole inhabitant is the "synthetic" David (Michael Fassbender), survivor of the doomed Prometheus expedition."

http://www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2015/11/alien-covenent-header.jpg

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/11/14/prometheus-sequel-alien-paradise-lost-may-now-be-titled-alien-covenant

[JakeSully]

Sounds interesting, should be a nice Halloween treat next year.

[NinjaPug]

Release date got moved up to 8/4/2017

http://www.superherohype.com/news/366545-gambit-alien-predator-and-more-fox-marvel-release-updates#/slide/1

Cast has been set too - Katherine Waterston, Billy Crudup, Demian Bichir, Danny McBride, Jussie Smollett, Amy Seimetz, Carmen Ejogo and Callie Hernandez are joining Fassbender. Still no word on Rapace returning. There's been mixed reports which makes me think they could be saving her role as a surprise / plot point in the movie.

http://deadline.com/2016/02/billy-crudup-alien-covenant-jackie-movie-natalie-portman-casting-1201709420/

[The Deadman]

‘Alien: Covenant’ Will Have Multiple Aliens “Coming Out of People”! (http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3391157/alien-covenant-will-feature-aliens-coming-people/)

Fassbender Says ‘Alien: Covenant’ Will Look “Battered” (http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3391772/fassbender-says-alien-covenant-will-look-battered/)

[NinjaPug]

Looks like Noomi Rapace is definitely on board now.

EXCLUSIVE: Even though Noomi Rapace emerged from Prometheus as one of the few survivors and the one who seemed most to want to follow the adventure forward with Michael Fassbender’s character, it was long reported she would not be back to reprise her role as Elizabeth Shaw in Ridley Scott’s next installment Alien: Covenant. Maybe that has changed.

Sources say Rapace is in Australia and on the set to shoot weeks worth of scenes in Scott’s film, which brings back Fassbender’s robot character and has a cast that includes Katherine Waterston, Billy Crudup, Danny McBride and Demian Bichir. Info is on lockdown, so we’ll have to wait for the film to be released August 4, 2017, by Fox to see how it all worked out.

http://deadline.com/2016/06/noomi-rapace-alien-covenant-reprises-role-1201776038/

[Andrew NDB]

Looks like Noomi Rapace is definitely on board now.



http://deadline.com/2016/06/noomi-rapace-alien-covenant-reprises-role-1201776038/

I figured she'd be in it but I figured they'd (for some strange reason) be wanting to preserve some modicum of surprise when she pops up in the movie. But at this late stage of the movie I didn't expect it to be much more than a cameo.

[ProactiveMan]

I was hoping the sequels would be Noomi Rapace and the severed head of Michael Fassbender adventuring through space. Fassbender trying hard to cause trouble while hampered by his ongoing mobility issues. It’s starting to sound a bit like Lexx now that I think about it.

[drgon78]

I was also disappointed with the change, I really wanted to see everything through Shaw and David's head instead of focusing on a new cast.

[NinjaPug]

Release date moved up to May 19, 2017.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--UlNyN2IB--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/vkcep0msr7zu500p21db.jpg

[NinjaPug]

Trailer coming tomorrow:

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[TigerClaw]

There been some images that were released recently

https://i1.wp.com/ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/8946510200000.jpg?crop=0px%2C202px%2C2400px%2C1598 px&resize=2000%2C1333&ssl=1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0EHxw-UoAETbqK.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0H-npzUUAEdyzK.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0YW4GNUQAAvNnk.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0SR8FsUoAAEnfl.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0XuMV2UcAEKnpS.jpg

[DestronMirage22]

I'm so hyped for this.
http://i.imgur.com/9dCVDcU.gif

[TigerClaw]

Here's the trailer, and it's a Red Band one.

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[ZariusTwo]

Xenomorphs are now doing the Hitchcock thing

[Wildcat]

That looks pretty awesome. Never saw the first Prometheus but saw all the Alien movies.

I read the movie with Sigourney Weaver is still supposed to happen. I guess it's going to ignore the last two. I agree 3 wasn't very good but I enjoyed Resurrection.

Has that ever been done before? Out right dismissing a movie in a series (this would be 2) to carry on a more favorable storyline?

Edit, found this http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/ignored/34325/10-sequels-that-ignored-previous-films

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I enjoyed the first film alot, but the one major complaint I had with it is that it didn't show us much of the alien civilization that was responsible for creating humans. Sure, it makes them more mysterious and intriguing but I felt like the film was nothing but buildup. Hopefully this sequel delivers exactly what I've been waiting for.

[NinjaPug]

Fox loves releasing these red band trailers on Christmas. They did the same with Deadpool last year I believe.

I'm all about this trailer. Looks like they're downplaying the connections to Prometheus as much as possible and trying to evoke the first Alien vibe to get fans back to the theaters.

If they can take the horror aspects of Alien while adding to the mythology created in Prometheus then I'll be very happy with this movie.

[TigerClaw]

Fox loves releasing these red band trailers on Christmas. They did the same with Deadpool last year I believe.

I'm all about this trailer. Looks like they're downplaying the connections to Prometheus as much as possible and trying to evoke the first Alien vibe to get fans back to the theaters.

If they can take the horror aspects of Alien while adding to the mythology created in Prometheus then I'll be very happy with this movie.
Red Band Trailers are good, But they tend to spoil parts of the movies, particularly the gory parts.

They pretty much spoiled the shower scene in this.

[TigerClaw]

Here's some new images.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/the-fight-for-survival-begins-in-a-new-batch-of-images-from-alien-covenant-a147711

https://s23.postimg.org/95897dyd7/DF_18030_R3_CROP.jpg

https://s23.postimg.org/fuesnejp7/DF_10742.jpg

https://s23.postimg.org/p0x3aooxn/DF_09173_R.jpg

[drgon78]

Looks like "been there/done that" to me. I loved Prometheus and want to know more about the "Engineers" and Shaw's journey.

If David was the one that created the Xenomorphs and not the Engineers I will be highly disappointed.

[TigerClaw]

Looks like "been there/done that" to me. I loved Prometheus and want to know more about the "Engineers" and Shaw's journey.

If David was the one that created the Xenomorphs and not the Engineers I will be highly disappointed.
I just hope we see some living Engineers and not more dead ones.

[NinjaPug]

Looks like "been there/done that" to me. I loved Prometheus and want to know more about the "Engineers" and Shaw's journey.

If David was the one that created the Xenomorphs and not the Engineers I will be highly disappointed.

There was a quick shot of David wearing one of the cloaks the Engineer wore at the beginning of Prometheus (as well as the many Engineers from the deleted extended opening scene). I'm curious if he's simply ingrained himself with the Engineers or if he's wiped them out. Either way I think it's a safe bet to assume he plays a part in the Xeno creation.

While I too would be disappointed if David was behind it I could get on board with David getting to the Engineer's home planet, meeting "God" and been left wanting, then deciding to become "God" himself.

[TigerClaw]

There was a quick shot of David wearing one of the cloaks the Engineer wore at the beginning of Prometheus (as well as the many Engineers from the deleted extended opening scene). I'm curious if he's simply ingrained himself with the Engineers or if he's wiped them out. Either way I think it's a safe bet to assume he plays a part in the Xeno creation.

While I too would be disappointed if David was behind it I could get on board with David getting to the Engineer's home planet, meeting "God" and been left wanting, then deciding to become "God" himself.
I also wonder what happened to Elizabeth Shaw in the movie, I have a feeling she's going to die in it, and David is the only survivor.

[drgon78]

I would also be disappointed if they kill Shaw especially if David was the cause directly or indirectly.

I can't see David being the creator of the Xenomorphs since the original movie said the "space jockey" was fossilized.

[Powder]

Not sold on this just yet but I'm curious.

[TigerClaw]

I heard that James Franco is in the movie, I bet he plays some scumbag Weyland Yutani executive.

[Andrew NDB]

Looks like "been there/done that" to me. I loved Prometheus and want to know more about the "Engineers" and Shaw's journey.

If David was the one that created the Xenomorphs and not the Engineers I will be highly disappointed.

There was a quick shot of David wearing one of the cloaks the Engineer wore at the beginning of Prometheus (as well as the many Engineers from the deleted extended opening scene). I'm curious if he's simply ingrained himself with the Engineers or if he's wiped them out. Either way I think it's a safe bet to assume he plays a part in the Xeno creation.

While I too would be disappointed if David was behind it I could get on board with David getting to the Engineer's home planet, meeting "God" and been left wanting, then deciding to become "God" himself.

David (or anybody else) won't be creating any Aliens in this. Not for the first time, anyway. We saw in Prometheus that the Engineers already knew about the Aliens and possibly worshiped them. Probably the goo is the result of Engineers studying the Aliens and trying to utilize their DNA, both in weaponized form and to create.

I just hope we see some living Engineers and not more dead ones.

Behind the scenes pics show a group of what appear to be Engineers crawling toward a giant gate, covered in black stuff and possibly burning.

Also, there is reportedly a giant Engineer city in the movie. No trace of it in the trailer, but it's there.

I also wonder what happened to Elizabeth Shaw in the movie, I have a feeling she's going to die in it, and David is the only survivor.

I would also be disappointed if they kill Shaw especially if David was the cause directly or indirectly.

I think one of two things will happen: 1) She died at some point between Prometheus and Covenant, and the Covenant crew will play back some kind of recordings of her made before her death. 2) She will pop up near the end at a critical moment, and save the day.

We do know that Noomi only spent a couple weeks shooting this.

I can't see David being the creator of the Xenomorphs since the original movie said the "space jockey" was fossilized.

He can't be the creator. Though he might be behind the batch that shows up in the film.

Prometheus already gave us enough of an answer on the Alien lead-in (we just don't know the exact goo formula to = traditional Alien race). Basically 2000 years ago the Engineers were about to wipe out Earth with their black goo because we killed their Engineer-Jesus, but a horrible accident on their military springboard world (LV-223) infected the lot of them there. Some Engineers escaped off-world in their Juggernaut ships (i.e., the Juggernaut that is the derelict in Alien, which crashed on nearby LV-426 in the very same Zeta2 Reticuli System), others were killed, and others went into stasis awaiting help (the Engineer on the Juggernaut in Prometheus).

But yeah, the Juggernaut ship in Alien would have been there for 2000 years, as it was escaping the same incident (trying to anyway... clearly the Engineer Navigator was already infected on takeoff) that wiped out that Engineer installation in Prometheus.

I heard that James Franco is in the movie, I bet he plays some scumbag Weyland Yutani executive.

Yep yep. I'm betting he's the new Paul Reiser.

[drgon78]

Well another possibility for Shaw's fate is she got turned into a monster/non-human lifeform.

I hope we see some living Engineers in this movie.

[TigerClaw]

Well another possibility for Shaw's fate is she got turned into a monster/non-human lifeform.

I hope we see some living Engineers in this movie.
At the end of Prometheus, She wanted to go to the Engineer's home planet, and find out why they want to wipe out the human race.

So maybe we will see that part of her journey, I have a feeling that she doesn't survive her encounter.

[NinjaPug]

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[DestronMirage22]

Wow, that scene is so reminiscent of the original Alien! :o

[Andrew NDB]

Not a terrible scene aside from the stupid "Uh oh, is she gonna chestburst like the guy in Alien??" bit. Cheap scare reliant on nostalgia for Alien.

[Andrew NDB]

Also, I understand everything wants to be PC now... but why would you send a gay couple to colonize a planet?

[NinjaPug]

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[CyberCubed]

Is it just me or does this remind anyone else of Terminator Genisys? Basically an almost reboot/remake of the first film that is just done nowhere as good but with modern film making scenes?

[DestronMirage22]

Is it just me or does this remind anyone else of Terminator Genisys? Basically an almost reboot/remake of the first film that is just done nowhere as good but with modern film making scenes?

It's just you. This film seems nothing like the original Alien, apart from some basic elements, but that's to be expected considering that they came from the same guy.

[CyberCubed]

It's practically the same story again with just some changes here and there.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Man, I realllllly want to love this and I hope I do so I'm gonna be cautiously optimistic until I see it. Prometheus was a movie I think I liked less the more I saw it and I don't know if I'll ever get my dream of another slow build sci-fi horror like the original again...but I think there may be enough there for me to enjoy more this time around.

[AT-Man]

LOL, looks like shaite.


Also, I understand everything wants to be PC now... but why would you send a gay couple to colonize a planet?

Good point. But surely they have means for artificial insemination. They are probably just all around fine human specimens.

[Andrew NDB]

Good point. But surely they have means for artificial insemination.

How does that work with 2 dudes?

[DestronMirage22]

Also, I understand everything wants to be PC now... but why would you send a gay couple to colonize a planet?

Ridley Scott likes being progressive. He probably also wanted to add variety to the cast, and I'm sure he has a reason in mind for their being in the crew.

[AT-Man]

How does that work with 2 dudes?

Don't they have women too? Maybe one of them carries the baby and the guys raise it.

[Utrommaniac]

Being gay doesn't mean it's physically impossible to sexually engage with another gender. It just means you're not attracted to them.
It's been happening for centuries. So, even IVF might not be totally necessary. Bang one out in a quick two minutes or so during ovulation, cleanse yourself of feeling gross afterwards, and be done with it.

[DestronMirage22]

New Red Band trailer with some new stuff:
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(Edit: I can't get the video to display on here, do here'd the link to it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1AaiP6vYCA&ebc=ANyPxKoA7_fABLBRBVpx_6BdFJVXiyYAHr-JS0gWv6ku2-35r7IgFBE1dsvwHNazPdVddQolI1ea&time_continue=147)

[Andrew NDB]

Being gay doesn't mean it's physically impossible to sexually engage with another gender. It just means you're not attracted to them.
It's been happening for centuries. So, even IVF might not be totally necessary. Bang one out in a quick two minutes or so during ovulation, cleanse yourself of feeling gross afterwards, and be done with it.

I guess if there's a woman on that ship willing to do that for them that would work. On a colony ship with a limited number of seats with the intention of settling and populating a planet, though, that means one seat is basically superfluous to that purpose. And I don't think Weyland-Yutani is not one to want to make every penny count.

[TigerClaw]

Promo that introduces us to Walter.

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[Andrew NDB]

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/03/12/spoiler-alert-alien-covenant-plot-details-emerge-sxsw/

So basically... it sounds like David creates the Alien in this. The mural in Prometheus was wrong, AVP 1 & 2 can't happen, that wasn't an Alien skull in Predator 2, and whatever juggernaut ship crashed on LV-426 that the Nostromo's crew encountered... it hasn't happened yet, or will happen in this movie (even though in Covenant, we're now only 19 years before Alien... that's a whole lot of fossilizing in a very short amount of time).

Bullsh*t, bullsh*t, and bullsh*t.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Also, I understand everything wants to be PC now... but why would you send a gay couple to colonize a planet?

Maybe they're both engineers or stellar cartographers or something; vital support crew. But a very valid observation...

Is it just me or does this remind anyone else of Terminator Genisys? Basically an almost reboot/remake of the first film that is just done nowhere as good but with modern film making scenes?

I think Cubed called it. Spot on observation... first Terminator Genesis, then Star Wars The Force Awakens, and now Alien Covenant. Any others I'm missing?

[Andrew NDB]

I think Cubed called it. Spot on observation... first Terminator Genesis, then Star Wars The Force Awakens, and now Alien Covenant. Any others I'm missing?

I dunno, Covenant seems to have a piece of everything in it. From the trailer alone, stuff and shots borrowed from Alien, Aliens (the guns, obviously, but also the shot of the Alien skittering up the red-lit shaft), Alien 3, Prometheus, even Alien: Resurrection (the Alien ramming its head against the glass).

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I dunno, Covenant seems to have a piece of everything in it. From the trailer alone, stuff and shots borrowed from Alien, Aliens (the guns, obviously, but also the shot of the Alien skittering up the red-lit shaft), Alien 3, Prometheus, even Alien: Resurrection (the Alien ramming its head against the glass).

I'm definitely not the person to serve as final judgment on Alien stuff... only saw the first one this year. :trazz:

But watching the trailer and reading through this thread, it sounds like Cubed might be right.

If that's the case, I wonder if this is a wider trend and what is driving it? (Other than an ongoing lack of originality...)

[DestronMirage22]

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/03/12/spoiler-alert-alien-covenant-plot-details-emerge-sxsw/

So basically... it sounds like David creates the Alien in this. The mural in Prometheus was wrong, AVP 1 & 2 can't happen, that wasn't an Alien skull in Predator 2, and whatever juggernaut ship crashed on LV-426 that the Nostromo's crew encountered... it hasn't happened yet, or will happen in this movie (even though in Covenant, we're now only 19 years before Alien... that's a whole lot of fossilizing in a very short amount of time).

Bullsh*t, bullsh*t, and bullsh*t.

Seems to me like these movies have been implying that the alien has always existed, just that outside sources (engineers or David) contributed to the form of Xenomorph that we see in the other films.

I thought the mural looked a lot like the Deacon as opposed to the regular Xeno. I think it goes with the theory I just mentioned: the engineers could've found out about the potential these creatures possessed and the regular Xeno/Deacon was their attempt at weaponizing them. The mural could've shown their vision of the creature perfected.

The AVP movies aren't canon anyways. Too many discrepancies and the fact that they already outright said they didn't want those mess of movies to be canon.

I agree with you about the fossilization of the ship and Space Jockey. They should've thought that through better. But I guess you can chalk it all up to the nature of LV-426 and it's harsh environmental.

[DestronMirage22]

Here's an interesting article that is a little bit spoilerish, just to let you know.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2017/03/14/alien-covenant-explore-alien-origins/

[CyberCubed]

I''m definitely not the person to serve as final judgment on Alien stuff... only saw the first one this year

Whaaaat? Are you saying you haven't gotten into the Alien movies either? First Star Wars, then Planet of the Apes, now Aliens?

And I thought you were a sci-fi fan, Cylon. :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

I'm definitely not the person to serve as final judgment on Alien stuff... only saw the first one this year. :trazz:

If you live long enough, one day you see yourself become CyberCubed.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Whaaaat? Are you saying you haven't gotten into the Alien movies either? First Star Wars, then Planet of the Apes, now Aliens?

And I thought you were a sci-fi fan, Cylon. :lol:

Haven't seen Predator yet, either.

I'm a fan of GOOD scifi: Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica, Doctor Who. And I respect Star Wars and Firefly, though I don't personally enjoy them.

Still need to give Babylon 5 and the Stargate series a go... someday, when I have time...

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

If you live long enough, one day you see yourself become CyberCubed.

Damn, that's HARSH, man. How can you say that to another human being?!

I thought we were friends. :tsad: :tlol:

[Andrew NDB]

Damn, that's HARSH, man. How can you say that to another human being?!

I thought we were friends. :tsad: :tlol:

You're joining his "I'm going to pretend I haven't seen every major motion picture in the past 20 years to get a rise out of people" shtick. :)

Every man, woman and child alive in the world has seen the Alien movies. And Predator. It should be mandatory, like service in the military in Israel.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

You're joining his "I'm going to pretend I haven't seen every major motion picture in the past 20 years to get a rise out of people" shtick. :)

Every man, woman and child alive in the world has seen the Alien movies. And Predator. It should be mandatory, like service in the military in Israel.

:tlol:

Nah, except for Alien, Predator, and Back to the Future, I've seen it. And the Apes movies. :trazz:

[CyberCubed]

What the hell? You haven't seen Back to the Future either? What in god sakes? That's just blasphemy at this point. Dear holy hell.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

What the hell? You haven't seen Back to the Future either? What in god sakes? That's just blasphemy at this point. Dear holy hell.

Keep deflecting, Cubed, but we all know YOU'RE the true cultural heathen here. :trazz:

[CyberCubed]

Back to the Future is literally required viewing. It's one of the most important film trilogies of all time. How could you have not have seen it after all these years? Just doesn't make sense.

My god. I am shocked.

[NinjaPug]

http://s3.birthmoviesdeath.com/images/made/Alien-Covenant-Poster-Xenos_1200_1780_81_s.jpg

[DestronMirage22]

http://s3.birthmoviesdeath.com/images/made/Alien-Covenant-Poster-Xenos_1200_1780_81_s.jpg

I saw that on AVP Galaxy. It's just beautiful. :tlove:
Some don't think that the actual aliens in the film will end up looking like that, though.

[Andrew NDB]

I saw that on AVP Galaxy. It's just beautiful. :tlove:
Some don't think that the actual aliens in the film will end up looking like that, though.

The second down from the top left looks like the head of the one we saw in the trailer. The upper right looks Queen-esque.

[DestronMirage22]

After seeing all the leaked stuff and trailers and promotional material, I'm reaaaaally excited for this movie. I'm a big fan of what Prometheus was before it became Prometheus, back when it was Alien: Engineers. I LOVE the design of the creatures made for it, and the leaked script is awesome. From the looks of it, Covenant seems to be adapting A LOT from Engineers. The Neomorph seems to be almost exactly what the Beluga Xenomorph would've been, right down to its creation. From leaked set images, it seems some of the creatures in David's laboratory are exact copies of some proposed designs from Engineers. I'm so freaking hyped!! :D

[DestronMirage22]

Here's a leaked image:
http://i0.wp.com/www.soisitanygood.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Alien-Covenant-3.jpg

And here's the concept designs:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/genetic-memory-10.jpg

Beluga Xenomorph:
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/2/2f/64739-1-.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20121118230342
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/c/c4/Ajvx9w.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/185?cb=20140116143128

Neomorph:
https://i0.wp.com/bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/neomorph-2.jpg
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/genetic-memory-32-701x290.jpg
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/genetic-memory-35.jpg

[DestronMirage22]

Three new TV spots:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dlOU5InhDSU&ebc=ANyPxKqI9anTXXos1l639ZWOb4apNve_2LwApWlIRDttlQ tSfUiDDPBq2mvJ9bGIKKaZtn7sPBD8qVXV7FRPGbfP-bzgho5_cA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?ebc=ANyPxKqI9anTXXos1l639ZWOb4apNve_2LwApWlI RDttlQtSfUiDDPBq2mvJ9bGIKKaZtn7sPBD8qVXV7FRPGbfP-bzgho5_cA&v=nvrilPDKVLI
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lNgzx_IbMqw&ebc=ANyPxKqI9anTXXos1l639ZWOb4apNve_2LwApWlIRDttlQ tSfUiDDPBq2mvJ9bGIKKaZtn7sPBD8qVXV7FRPGbfP-bzgho5_cA

[Andrew NDB]

Was weird, they showed them all back to back in tonight's Walking Dead. I guess that's the demographic they're reaching for.

[DestronMirage22]

New images of the film courtesy of some magazine. They look amazing, particularly the Neomorph ones.
http://i.imgur.com/eXX8IeS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LJTDoBi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uPPJ40y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YiOOy3a.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IsmRmV6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Zko70KN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pGSHsL7.jpg

Also, that actress is looking good. :lol:

[DestronMirage22]

3 new tv spots. Unfortunately they have the regular trailer stuck to the end of them, but whatever.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a9CtZ1jlk44&ebc=ANyPxKot5pTKIZrwjyrAZB8KTMgqUMehk6sOTzeew2o6ye NU2SjfFEH7-NrpuIq3m20z1ULe56PSgSWgdG4FPsy1kCCBz0Kl3Q
https://m.youtube.com/watch?ebc=ANyPxKot5pTKIZrwjyrAZB8KTMgqUMehk6sOTzee w2o6yeNU2SjfFEH7-NrpuIq3m20z1ULe56PSgSWgdG4FPsy1kCCBz0Kl3Q&v=mdMpBvIvenA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j8u8RAhYvVg&ebc=ANyPxKot5pTKIZrwjyrAZB8KTMgqUMehk6sOTzeew2o6ye NU2SjfFEH7-NrpuIq3m20z1ULe56PSgSWgdG4FPsy1kCCBz0Kl3Q

The Xenomorph, Neomorph, and Face-Hugger get some new shots, and they're amazing, so chilling. The effects look fantastic.

[DestronMirage22]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-Vfc24XsAEMIyT.jpg

New complete look at the new Xeno courtesy of NECA. This thing looks so freaking cool I cant wait to buy it!!! :D

[TigerClaw]

Prologue shows what happened to David and Elizabeth Shaw.

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[NinjaPug]

Prologue shows what happened to David and Elizabeth Shaw.

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Why wouldn't this be in the movie? This is the storyline that interests me the most.

[drgon78]

This saddens me, this should have been the movie we got.

[NinjaPug]

This saddens me, this should have been the movie we got.

Yep. I have a feeling I'm going to walk out of the theater mad and disappointed. I'm worried they are essentially going to abandon the Engineer storyline just to have some xeno retread because of the Prometheus backlash. I think I'm going to be really pissed with some of the creative decisions they make with David too.

[TigerClaw]

I bet it was David that caused the death of the Engineers in there home world.

[Andrew NDB]

Yep. I have a feeling I'm going to walk out of the theater mad and disappointed. I'm worried they are essentially going to abandon the Engineer storyline just to have some xeno retread because of the Prometheus backlash. I think I'm going to be really pissed with some of the creative decisions they make with David too.

Here's what's going to happen:

* We'll barely see the engineers. They're already dead before the film begins. We probably see a 30 second flashback of David wiping them out.
* David creates the actual Aliens only 10 years before Alien, thus negating Predator 2, AVP 1 and 2, and pretty much... any comic or book where you see an Alien pre-first Alien movie.
* I *suspect* Noomi will be the first host of the xenomorph.

Very, very stupid. It's Ridley Scott's ego wanting to wipe his butt all over the franchise and reassert himself in the middle of it all, wiping out what he doesn't like.

And really... the whole draw, the whole big tantalizing cliffhanger of Prometheus was, "Whoa... next we're going to meet the Engineers in their homeworld. That's going to be amazing." And now we're going to get none of that at all, just running and screaming and guns.

[DestronMirage22]

Here's what's going to happen:

* We'll barely see the engineers. They're already dead before the film begins. We probably see a 30 second flashback of David wiping them out.
* David creates the actual Aliens only 10 years before Alien, thus negating Predator 2, AVP 1 and 2, and pretty much... any comic or book where you see an Alien pre-first Alien movie.
* I *suspect* Noomi will be the first host of the xenomorph.

Very, very stupid. It's Ridley Scott's ego wanting to wipe his butt all over the franchise and reassert himself in the middle of it all, wiping out what he doesn't like.

And really... the whole draw, the whole big tantalizing cliffhanger of Prometheus was, "Whoa... next we're going to meet the Engineers in their homeworld. That's going to be amazing." And now we're going to get none of that at all, just running and screaming and guns.

I agree with your other points, but why would the crossovers even matter? The Predator 2 skull was just a fun little reference put in, not anything intended to be serious. The AvP movies are just bad overall, being obvious cash-grabs that weren't intended to be canon or whatever by the respective franches.

[Andrew NDB]

The AvP movies are just bad overall, being obvious cash-grabs that weren't intended to be canon or whatever by the respective franches.

What? Of course they were.

It remains hysterical to me that as much as Ridley hates the AVP movies... he literally remade AVP 1 with Prometheus. Almost note for note.

[NinjaPug]

Here's what's going to happen:

* We'll barely see the engineers. They're already dead before the film begins. We probably see a 30 second flashback of David wiping them out.
* David creates the actual Aliens only 10 years before Alien, thus negating Predator 2, AVP 1 and 2, and pretty much... any comic or book where you see an Alien pre-first Alien movie.
* I *suspect* Noomi will be the first host of the xenomorph.

Very, very stupid. It's Ridley Scott's ego wanting to wipe his butt all over the franchise and reassert himself in the middle of it all, wiping out what he doesn't like.

And really... the whole draw, the whole big tantalizing cliffhanger of Prometheus was, "Whoa... next we're going to meet the Engineers in their homeworld. That's going to be amazing." And now we're going to get none of that at all, just running and screaming and guns.

Yep, that's exactly what I am expecting to happen. SAD!

[Andrew NDB]

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It looks like they messed up the fingers. The xeno should have two thumbs, one on each side of hand, with the two sets of other fingers on each hand close together like the "Live Love and Prosper" Vulcan thing kind of. I don't see the dorsal fin, either.

https://image.invaluable.com/housePhotos/profilesinhistory/23/572123/H3257-L78861190.jpg

[TigerClaw]

Check out this behind the scenes video with Adam Savage on the set of Alien: Covenant, a lot has been done to create the inside of the Dreadnought ship.

They had to rebuilt the entire set since they didn't save the previous set from Prometheus.

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[ProphetofGanja]

It looks like they messed up the fingers. The xeno should have two thumbs, one on each side of hand, with the two sets of other fingers on each hand close together like the "Live Love and Prosper" Vulcan thing kind of. I don't see the dorsal fin, either.

https://image.invaluable.com/housePhotos/profilesinhistory/23/572123/H3257-L78861190.jpg

Damn, that hand looks so... alien

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[DestronMirage22]

!!!!
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Also, bad news for Alien 5: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2017/04/27/ridley-scott-thinks-alien-5-not-happening/

[Andrew NDB]

Also, bad news for Alien 5: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2017/04/27/ridley-scott-thinks-alien-5-not-happening/

Scott is lying through his teeth. The only reason Covenant became Covenant is because Ridley was pissed Blomkamp's concept art of Alien 5 was getting so much love and nobody was caring about a Prometheus 2. And Scott is a damn liar, there is a whole script, and Cameron has read it.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/james-cameron-thinks-neill-blomkamps-aliens-sequel-scri-1784210612

[Wildcat]

So what, Ridley Scott liked Alien 3 and doesn't want the continuity ignored?

[Andrew NDB]

So what, Ridley Scott liked Alien 3 and doesn't want the continuity ignored?

Blomkamp wouldn't have ignored that continuity either. Somehow. What he'd said was that Alien 3 and Resurrection would absolutely still be canon (not a dream), yet his Alien 5 would diverge from them somehow after Aliens.

How that is? We may never know. But he's said it wouldn't be something as simple as a dream or just ignoring A3 and A4.

[Wildcat]

Time travel or alternate universe is the only way I can see that being possible.

Couldn't they still do another sequel after the prequels? Does Scott own the rights or something?

[Andrew NDB]

Time travel or alternate universe is the only way I can see that being possible.

Or more cloooones with Weyland-Yutani buggery (but not too much buggery... otherwise, why would Weyland-Yutani be so desperate to acquire Ripley in the actual Alien 3?). But yeah, between the two of us we've listed the only 3 options this could be.

Couldn't they still do another sequel after the prequels? Does Scott own the rights or something?

Absolutely not. He wishes.

[Wildcat]

Well I assume there will be another sequel eventually. Even if it's not that supposed Alien 5 thing. There's no way it'd end forever after the prequels.

[NinjaPug]

Blomkamp sucks so I'm fine never seeing an Alien movie from him.

[NinjaPug]

Review embargo lifted last night and opinions are all over the place.

Some say if you liked Prometheus then you'll love this. Others say the exact opposite in that you will be let down if you liked Prometheus.

[TigerClaw]

Review embargo lifted last night and opinions are all over the place.

Some say if you liked Prometheus then you'll love this. Others say the exact opposite in that you will be let down if you liked Prometheus.
There were some who wish Prometheus was more like Alien, Sounds like people will like it cause its more like Alien.

[Andrew NDB]

There were some who wish Prometheus was more like Alien, Sounds like people will like it cause its more like Alien.

There were some who wished Prometheus shot with an actual script with reasonable characters. I did like it being rooted in science and the spirit of exploration. Sad that Covenant is overcorrecting for the wrong problems.

[DestronMirage22]

There's a cool new trailer showcasing some Xeno action, as well as the return of Xenovision from Alien 3:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JH2CvCHexdk&ebc=ANyPxKrof-UlcDnIPvLUb9YGKng3hgasuA11TLhdECdFo_cyob8dAalTVuZq BQExFNRn5B0pfN1j

[Andrew NDB]

My prediction: Covenant will open lukewarm and ultimately make a good chunk less than Prometheus. Prometheus was the big "Ridley returns to Alien movies... sort of!" thing that was touted hugely, and this isn't that. Covenant is half apology for Prometheus, and half retread of the other Alien movies, it seems... I don't see it setting the box office on fire.

[sdp]

So does covenant make Alien 3 and 4 non-canon?

One day I hope to marathon all the Alien and Predator movies since I was a huge fan of the franchises as a kid, well I guess a fan of the character designs since i didn't really get to watch much of either as a kid and even as an adult I've only seen AVP1/2

A bit off topic but I think it's beyond awesome that NECA has been able not only to do most Alien/Predator figures but to re-create pretty much most Playmates variants. I had all of the ones NECA has made and if I had space and money would buy these remakes of the figures I had.

[Andrew NDB]

So does covenant make Alien 3 and 4 non-canon?

No. Just everything else.

[TigerClaw]

There were some who wished Prometheus shot with an actual script with reasonable characters. I did like it being rooted in science and the spirit of exploration. Sad that Covenant is overcorrecting for the wrong problems.
The 1st draft was written by Jon Spaihts and was more like Alien, But then the director decided it should be less like it, so he had Damon Lindelof do rewrites.

[Andrew NDB]

The 1st draft was written by Jon Spaihts and was more like Alien, But then the director decided it should be less like it, so he had Damon Lindelof do rewrites.

That was news like 5 years ago. And granted, most of the stupidity in the script can be attributed to Spaihts, not Lindelof. Also, originally Ridley didn't even want to direct Prometheus when it was a straight Alien prequel... he was pushing his son on the studio, but they wouldn't budge (his son has been directing the Prometheus and Covenant short films and webisodes instead).

[NinjaPug]

Movie was fine but I'm really disappointed in the storyline Ridley decided to carry over from Prometheus. What a waste of everything else they set up. I'm more interested in the events between Prometheus and Covenant.

I have no clue how they're going to tie this back to LV-426.

[Andrew NDB]

Movie was fine but I'm really disappointed in the storyline Ridley decided to carry over from Prometheus. What a waste of everything else they set up. I'm more interested in the events between Prometheus and Covenant.

Apparently that's the next movie. An in-between-prequel.

I have no clue how they're going to tie this back to LV-426.

It sounds like they muddy it up even worse than before. From Prometheus we could figure out sort of what happened. Now? Now there would either need to be a story where an Engineer gets facehugged and boards a Juggernaut and takes off and crashes on LV-426 (only now that's messier... LV-223 was right next to LV-426 in the same star system but the Covenant planet is many systems away) for the ship and its Engineer to fossilize in the mere 10 years between Covenant and Alien... OR, a story of how David didn't actually create the Alien, he only RE-created it.

[Cure]

The movie was cool but the kung-fu fight between the two Fassbenders felt weird.

[TigerClaw]

Saw it today, It was good, that ending though.
When Walter turned out to be David.

[Andrew NDB]

Saw Alien: Covenant. Wow, that was bad. It's like every mistake in Prometheus wasn't learned from, but rather expanded upon. I didn't love Prometheus but I was okay with it as long as we were getting the big meet-the-Engineers movie next as the ending promised... but 5 years of waiting and we get 0 of that. Not even a little bit. And now the link to Alien 1 is even less clear than it was before.

[NinjaPug]

Man this article pisses me off. Details what the original concept for the Prometheus sequel was.

http://collider.com/alien-covenant-original-story-prometheus-2/

[DestronMirage22]

Man this article pisses me off. Details what the original concept for the Prometheus sequel was.

http://collider.com/alien-covenant-original-story-prometheus-2/

Yeah, that is frustratingly annoying.
But you know what's WORSE? They went in and freaking CGI'd over all the practical effects right before release! All that amazing work ****ing WASTED!!! They made it all look like crap when it could've looked great! :x

[AT-Man]

Saw it today, It was good, that ending though.
When Walter turned out to be David.

I refuse to accept that there would be anyone who didn't see that coming.

[ProactiveMan]

Why do sci-fi writers assume that robots will be immortal? There's no way a mechanical system as complex as David wouldn't break down in time, and he seems to be at least partially organic, so what makes him immune to decay?

I don't even buy the idea that his brain would work indefinitely. Have you tried to read a floppy disk lately? Half of them don't work anymore.

[Andrew NDB]

Why do sci-fi writers assume that robots will be immortal? There's no way a mechanical system as complex as David wouldn't break down in time, and he seems to be at least partially organic, so what makes him immune to decay?

I don't even buy the idea that his brain would work indefinitely. Have you tried to read a floppy disk lately? Half of them don't work anymore.

They could have been made a real Coen Brothers ending...

I can see it now...

David is touring all the sleeping passengers of the Covenant,
humming his tune... then drops dead. The equivalent of an android stroke. Bam. End credits.

[ProactiveMan]

They could have been made a real Coen Brothers ending...

I can see it now...

David is touring all the sleeping passengers of the Covenant,
humming his tune... then drops dead. The equivalent of an android stroke. Bam. End credits.

I like it, but imagine how angry everyone would be.

When I saw No Country for Old Men, the movie ended, credits came up, then from the back of the theater this guy just blurted out "what the f***?!" I don't think he was trying to be obnoxious, he just got caught up in the moment. It was piss funny!

[DestronMirage22]

Saw the movie through......unscrupulous means.
It wasn't that bad. Sure it had its flaws, but overall I still liked it.
The main problem I had was that the pacing was weird. A lot of scenes were too short and could've been expanded on, leaving the film feeling like it had a small runtime.
The creature designs were splendid, even though I'm still miffed they ruined the practical effects.
Neomorph could've gotten more screen time, but I understand why it didn't.
Not a lot of new stand-out characters, but that's to be expected.

Overall I liked it. It was better than Resurrection. :lol:
Wouldn't mind watching this movie again in the near future.

[Andrew NDB]

Good or bad, all Ridley has successfully done with Covenant is ensure there won't be another Alien movie for the foreseeable future, possibly ever. Covenant has officially bombed hard. It won't even close at half of what Prometheus did, and that movie just barely spawned a halfway sequel. He just "Out of the Shadows"ed the whole franchise, single-handedly.

One thing is certain: we will never, ever see David's further adventures on Origae-6.

[DestronMirage22]

Good or bad, all Ridley has successfully done with Covenant is ensure there won't be another Alien movie for the foreseeable future, possibly ever. Covenant has officially bombed hard. It won't even close at half of what Prometheus did, and that movie just barely spawned a halfway sequel. He just "Out of the Shadows"ed the whole franchise, single-handedly.

One thing is certain: we will never, ever see David's further adventures on Origae-6.

Which is a shame considering we spent two whole movies meeting these characters just for no payoff. A third movie might've sunk the franchise even further and it almost definitely would've been on the same level of quality as Covenant, but I think any closure would be better than none. :ohwell:

[Andrew NDB]

The way I see it, best case... 8 years from now, there's new higher-ups at Fox. Maybe they do something like Blomkamp had in mind, or maybe they relaunch Alien vs. Predator in a bigger fashion. Or nothing at all.

[CyberCubed]

Between this and The Mummy flopping, there's been a lot of big bombs in 2017 so far. The new Pirates movie did poorly too I believe, but I guess it doesn't matter since it was probably going to be the last in the franchise anyway.

That said I'm surprised Kong: Skull Island did well, and they're probably fortunate it did. I really wonder how Blade Runner 2049 will do, they're probably praying Harrison Ford being there convinces people to see it. I know if Harrison Ford wasn't in the movie and it was just a reboot I wouldn't bother with it.

Think of all the other big 80's movie franchise reboots that bombed like Robocop, Total Recall, The Thing 2011, Ghostbusters, Terminator 5, etc.

[Andrew NDB]

The new Pirates movie did poorly too I believe, but I guess it doesn't matter since it was probably going to be the last in the franchise anyway.

I'm pretty sure they got wind of early test audience reactions and decided "Oh, this is gonna be a bomb... at least if we bill it as the FINAL Pirates movie, more people might see it."

Look, the spin is beginning:
http://www.darkhorizons.com/lindelof-on-where-another-alien-could-go/

[The Deadman]

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[Andrew NDB]

Hey, if you guys want to see a ton of plants, check out the official Covenant Facebook page. Lots of "Best Alien movie ever!!! Except maybe Cameron's movie, that one is OK" just in time for the home release.

[Powder]

Just watched this. I really liked it, a lot. Would've liked a little bit more context for what happened between this & it predecessor, but otherwise I was pleasantly surprised with the overall thing. I didn't expect it to be so closely tied to Prometheus (I don't read up on stuff before I check it out) so I was pretty satisfied in that respect. Very cool.

The only aspects that I didn't enjoy were that it was fairly predictable, the creature CGI wasn't too great, & as Cure said, the little martial arts segment felt so out of place. :tlol: I liked the horror film tropes despite how cliche they were, but boo at the shower scene.

Oh, & one thing that irks me a little about either of these films, is that they're the 2010's vision of the future. The set designs and stuff should have somewhat of a late 70's future aesthetic, to be a bit more visually consistent with the Alien films. That's a problem with a lot of modern prequels, IMO. They look cool as hell & all, but that change would go a long way for me.