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MikeandRaph87
06-01-2016, 04:17 PM
I thought I would set up a thread for posters to ask for reading recommendations based on interest or help figuring out a comic that he/she is thinking about but cannot place. To start off I am looking for a story that has Hal Jordan and Wally West work together showing their relationship. What out there in comicdom showcases Hal and Wally together?

TurtleTitan97
06-01-2016, 04:38 PM
To start off I am looking for a story that has Hal Jordan and Wally West work together showing their relationship. What out there in comicdom showcases Hal and Wally together?

Only story I can recommend from memory is the "Gorilla Warfare" crossover between their two books. It occurs in Flash vol.2 #69-70 and Green Lantern vol.3 #30-31.

MikeandRaph87
06-02-2016, 08:44 PM
Only story I can recommend from memory is the "Gorilla Warfare" crossover between their two books. It occurs in Flash vol.2 #69-70 and Green Lantern vol.3 #30-31.

Grodd and Hector Hammond, during Hal's tenure with JLI, huh? About a year and a half before Kyle and the Parallax fiasco. Sounds interesting. I was looking for their specific interaction as Kid Flash/Green Lantern, Flash III/Green Lantern, Flash III/Spectre II, but yes their interaction as Flash III and Green Lantern is the one I am most interested in. Thanks.

myconius
06-05-2016, 06:45 PM
i recommend finish reading Grant Morrison's Batman Incorporated. :lol:

you're SO close to the finish line!!!!


http://www.placesandpredators.com/52/BatmanInc8b.jpg

MikeandRaph87
06-05-2016, 06:54 PM
I will put it on the back burner for now. I still need to finish Batman#1 and 2 stories. Still have Hugo's 3rd appearance and the two stories from #2 to read as well.

I recommend Detective Comics #434 & 435 as well as Batman#276.
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/detective-comics-434-the-spook-that-stalked-batman/4000-112708/

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Batman_Vol_1_276

You know how to track them down.

Utrommaniac
06-05-2016, 07:41 PM
One of my favorite comics
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Bone-complete.jpg
I love it. And it's still breaking the top 10 lists for the New York Times best graphic novels.

myconius
06-06-2016, 10:30 AM
I will put it on the back burner for now. I still need to finish Batman#1 and 2 stories. Still have Hugo's 3rd appearance and the two stories from #2 to read as well.

I recommend Detective Comics #434 & 435 as well as Batman#276.
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/detective-comics-434-the-spook-that-stalked-batman/4000-112708/

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Batman_Vol_1_276

You know how to track them down.

for now i just read all the stories within Batman #1.
i may want to re-read a few parts of that issue before heading into #2? :)

i'll definitely had to read those spook stories you recommended to me!
thanks again for that! :D

MikeandRaph87
04-18-2017, 08:48 PM
Has anyone read Resurrection of Ra's al Ghul(2008 )? I was wondering if it was any good? I have the run surrounding it but usually avoided story arcs that weave through multiple titles.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
04-18-2017, 09:05 PM
Has anyone read Resurrection of Ra's al Ghul(2008 )? I was wondering if it was any good? I have the run surrounding it but usually avoided story arcs that weave through multiple titles.

I liked it; the TPB did a good job of collecting the stories.

Damian, Dick, Tim, and I think Cassandra was in it... good story.

DestronMirage22
04-18-2017, 10:18 PM
One of my favorite comics
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/Bone-complete.jpg
I love it. And it's still breaking the top 10 lists for the New York Times best graphic novels.

Agreed. Bone is just awesome.

I also think you guys should check out Scott Pilgrim if you haven't yet. It's an amazing series that gets better with every read. A perfect blend of comedy, action, romance, slice-of-life, video games, everything and then some. It's also one of my biggest inspirations, because of this series and others, I decided I wanted to make my own comic series one day, something I'm still working towards and it's all thanks to this wonderful series.

Seriously, check it out.

MikeandRaph87
03-11-2018, 07:16 PM
There are a pair of mini-series I am looking for opinions on, Spider-Man : Blue and Secret Wars.

ProphetofGanja
03-11-2018, 07:22 PM
There are a pair of mini-series I am looking for opinions on, Spider-Man : Blue and Secret Wars.

Original Secret Wars or New?

MikeandRaph87
03-11-2018, 07:30 PM
Original Secret Wars or New?

Original. I am reading back issues of Amazing Spider-Man. I picked up with #249 and Secret Wars picks up after the first storyarc.

ProphetofGanja
03-11-2018, 09:21 PM
Original. I am reading back issues of Amazing Spider-Man. I picked up with #249 and Secret Wars picks up after the first storyarc.

Well, what about it? I've read it, I liked it a lot, but I read it as a kid in the old longboxes my uncle used to have. I loved the scope of the storyline and it left a big impression on me. As far as Spider-Man goes it was neat to see the origin of the black suit. I'd recommend it, it's a fun read if you're a fan of that era of comics.

Regarding the new Secret Wars, I think it consisted of a lot more comics than the old one and I never got around to reading all of the tie-ins some of them were pretty good, depending on what series you're into. Some of the effects of the new Secret Wars are still being felt, like the aftermath of Reed and Sue Richards' disappearance and Ben and Johnny's search for them through the multiverse.

MikeandRaph87
03-12-2018, 08:18 PM
Well, what about it? I've read it, I liked it a lot, but I read it as a kid in the old longboxes my uncle used to have. I loved the scope of the storyline and it left a big impression on me. As far as Spider-Man goes it was neat to see the origin of the black suit. I'd recommend it, it's a fun read if you're a fan of that era of comics.

Regarding the new Secret Wars, I think it consisted of a lot more comics than the old one and I never got around to reading all of the tie-ins some of them were pretty good, depending on what series you're into. Some of the effects of the new Secret Wars are still being felt, like the aftermath of Reed and Sue Richards' disappearance and Ben and Johnny's search for them through the multiverse.

Not interested in Secret Wars II. It just plays a part in my chronological reading of the Amazing Spider-Man title. I was curious what else happens aside from Spider-Man stumbling upon the alien symbiote in his part of the story. There is too much going on in the Amazing title at that time as it is.

Also, what is Spider-Man: Blue exactly about? I know it has a reflection on Gwen Stacey, but do not know much else about it.

Myconius, did you ever get around to The Spook stories? He truly is the most overlooked Bat Rogue.


Anyone else who is looking for a comic or opinion(s) on one please use this thread. That is what it is here for!

myconius
03-13-2018, 10:59 AM
Myconius, did you ever get around to The Spook stories? He truly is the most overlooked Bat Rogue.


yes i did. very cool stories. thank you!

what era would you classify those as? Silver-Age?

MikeandRaph87
03-13-2018, 11:59 AM
yes i did. very cool stories. thank you!

what era would you classify those as? Silver-Age?

The Silver Age and Bronze Age really run together for me, its Earth-One era. However, Spook's 1973-1983 run is Bronze Age. I don't understand why 20 1/2 years passed and he got an appearance stating he cant adapt to the current world and three years later he is fodder for Damien without his gimmick being played up. The Spook is in need of a dusting off. I just want respect given to a deadly adversary.

myconius
03-13-2018, 08:43 PM
The Silver Age and Bronze Age really run together for me, its Earth-One era. However, Spook's 1973-1983 run is Bronze Age. I don't understand why 20 1/2 years passed and he got an appearance stating he cant adapt to the current world and three years later he is fodder for Damien without his gimmick being played up. The Spook is in need of a dusting off. I just want respect given to a deadly adversary.

a lot of characters from other eras never get picked up and dusted off.
much of this i feel has to do with the audience. as i was reading those stories with The Spook, i found them very fun but i also had to really stretch my suspension of disbelief. some of the events in the stories were just really outrageous, to being near impossible.
but i can appreciate and enjoy those types of wacky stories. many of today's comic readers just seem to want dark grim and gritty edgy stories.
but you know as well as i, if they ever did bring The Spook back he'd just be redone as a slasher/psychopath.
just look at what Tom King did to Riddler.

MikeandRaph87
03-14-2018, 07:21 PM
a lot of characters from other eras never get picked up and dusted off.
much of this i feel has to do with the audience. as i was reading those stories with The Spook, i found them very fun but i also had to really stretch my suspension of disbelief. some of the events in the stories were just really outrageous, to being near impossible.
but i can appreciate and enjoy those types of wacky stories. many of today's comic readers just seem to want dark grim and gritty edgy stories.
but you know as well as i, if they ever did bring The Spook back he'd just be redone as a slasher/psychopath.
just look at what Tom King did to Riddler.

Its funny what has been done with The Riddler in recent years. First he was made a coward and shaved a question mark into his head and had a question mark tattoo on his neck. Then it was forgotten immediately. Then he he had a green question mark mowhawk. Then after a one-off it disappears. Now, a question mark bullet scar? I just learned on Gotham Rogues channel that he was not fighting over who got to kill Batman with The Joker, but was trying to make a better Joker by killing Kite-Man's son so Brown who beat Riddler causing Joker to laugh? I don't get it, what a stretch at that. Eddie is my favorite.

I don't know about The Spook, but I think mysteries could be based around him, a lost aspect of Batman. I thought he could have escaped Damien considering his M.O. or even have become a true Spook, like Gentleman Ghost. Its high time for him to do something. If Calendar Man and even Kite-Man can be something why not him?

I read up to Amazing Spider-Man#268 which ties into Secret Wars II. I did not realize it was only a year or so later. I think I will read through ASM#270 then go back and read Secret Wars.


What are the thoughts on Spider-Man:Blue?

myconius
03-15-2018, 06:42 AM
Its funny what has been done with The Riddler in recent years. First he was made a coward and shaved a question mark into his head and had a question mark tattoo on his neck. Then it was forgotten immediately. Then he he had a green question mark mowhawk. Then after a one-off it disappears. Now, a question mark bullet scar? I just learned on Gotham Rogues channel that he was not fighting over who got to kill Batman with The Joker, but was trying to make a better Joker by killing Kite-Man's son so Brown who beat Riddler causing Joker to laugh? I don't get it, what a stretch at that. Eddie is my favorite.

I don't know about The Spook, but I think mysteries could be based around him, a lost aspect of Batman. I thought he could have escaped Damien considering his M.O. or even have become a true Spook, like Gentleman Ghost. Its high time for him to do something. If Calendar Man and even Kite-Man can be something why not him?

I read up to Amazing Spider-Man#268 which ties into Secret Wars II. I did not realize it was only a year or so later. I think I will read through ASM#270 then go back and read Secret Wars.


What are the thoughts on Spider-Man:Blue?

i just think most comic writers these days aren't clever or creative enough to properly handle Riddler.
trying to turn him into something edgy like a slasher or straight up murderer is a complete disrespect to his character. last good Riddler story i read was in the 2011 relaunch of 'Legends of the Dark Knight' it was a short story, but it did what it needed to.

so MikeandRaph87, did you ever get to finish reading Batman Incorporated?

http://www.placesandpredators.com/52/BatmanInc8b.jpg

Utrommaniac
03-15-2018, 09:26 AM
I say it's hard to do anything with a guy whose real name is shortened to "E. Nigma" and take it seriously

myconius
03-15-2018, 10:50 AM
I say it's hard to do anything with a guy whose real name is shortened to "E. Nigma" and take it seriously

why does it need to be serious?

you're not one of those 'Edgelords' are you? :P


https://i.imgur.com/zRX225x.jpg

Utrommaniac
03-15-2018, 02:25 PM
Nah, I just think the situation is quite the enigma since it's been brought up :P

myconius
03-15-2018, 02:52 PM
Nah, I just think the situation is quite the enigma since it's been brought up :P

Good one! :lol:

myconius
03-17-2018, 06:19 PM
I will put it on the back burner for now.


so.......

MikeandRaph87, did you ever get to finish reading Batman Incorporated?

http://www.placesandpredators.com/52/BatmanInc8b.jpg

MikeandRaph87
03-17-2018, 07:58 PM
so.......

MikeandRaph87, did you ever get to finish reading Batman Incorporated?

http://www.placesandpredators.com/52/BatmanInc8b.jpg

I am sorry, I have been trying to get through my work so I can have a clear schedule to see Kevin Eastman again tomorrow.

As for Batman Incorporated, yes and no. I cheated and read the final issue. Around the 1st of October. It was not bad just lost its edge not allowing Dick Grayson to be Batman. Its the Dick/Damien dynamic that works for that or any of their titles. He does not mesh with Bruce even if he is the Superboy clone equivalent to Superman (who works better himself with Supergirl).

Also, in response to the above, The Riddler's real name is not Edward Nigma, but Edward Nashton. He legally changed it to Nigma due to his compulsion and call himself out even more. Yes, Edward is hard to work beyond the Silver and Bronze Ages that is true. Yet both Loeb and Dini proved he can be formidable just as Penguin adapted with times. The Riddler is not a murderer yet repeatedly he has become one without the excuse of a demon from underneath Gotham.

Leonardo_thebest
03-18-2018, 05:01 AM
I picked up Oblivion Song this week, Infidel #1, VS #1 and Fighting American Vol. 1

Oblivion felt like a rehash, and too on the nose. The art was kind of terrible. I don't understand why Kirkman sings the praises of this artist. Comics are 80% visual, and if your work is hard to look at, I'm not interested.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_original/xa3pmm49k5vogx1gzcqm.png

I like supporting indie books over DC and Marvel. Every time I pick up a new title I hope to uncover the next TMNT.

Anybody else reading stuff outside the mainstream?

myconius
03-18-2018, 06:55 AM
As for Batman Incorporated, yes and no. I cheated and read the final issue. Around the 1st of October. It was not bad just lost its edge not allowing Dick Grayson to be Batman. Its the Dick/Damien dynamic that works for that or any of their titles. He does not mesh with Bruce even if he is the Superboy clone equivalent to Superman (who works better himself with Supergirl).


hey that's something at least.
there were a few really nice moments you missed. Damian is upset because his Father puts him in lock-down in the cave, so Alfred brings him home a feral kitten.

you can blame the DC Editorial for their forced New52 into Grant's final act.
there was also a change in the tone of Batman Inc from pre-flashpoint to new52 as well.
if i had to guess, i'd imagine this was what drove Grant away from DC monthly titles, and into more creative owned properties.

i'm not sure how true this is? but according to this article Grant wanted to do a lot more stories with Dick a Damian as Batman and Robin.

https://www.cbr.com/morrison-planned-five-years-dick-damian-batman/

Utrommaniac
03-19-2018, 09:14 PM
Ahhh yeah I finally remembered a two-part series.

It's an educational graphic novel, but it's right up my alley, especially since I found it while in my Dalek phase.

The Stuff of Life: A Graphic Guide to Genetics (https://www.amazon.com/Stuff-Life-Graphic-Guide-Genetics/dp/0809089475) and DNA and Evolution: The Story of Life on Earth (https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Story-Earth-Jay-Hosler/dp/0809043114/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_img_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=MTF5A0GWFNRKA4XNJN2K)

Now, I know what you're thinking...why am I sharing something over something that has started flame wars and shut downs on previous threads?


Because all the information is relayed from an alien scientist to his king while their species threatened by disease - fueled in part because they reproduce asexually.

Also, this is great:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/books/macmillan_gms/SOL9-2.jpg

The king and the scientist are a lot of fun in their exchanges, even if it's just down to:
"But why is that thing!"
"Well sire, I'm about to explain why that thing is!"

It's a pretty nice way to step into understanding genetics if textbook learning gets befuddling.

Leonardo_thebest
03-20-2018, 02:25 AM
I'll have to check those out.
They look like fun.

Utrommaniac
03-20-2018, 02:41 AM
From what I remember, it was a lot of fun.

But the last time I read it was when I was in high school, and the best I can pinpoint on that was Junior year. So 2011.



Another comic I read a bunch (rented from the library), was the first two Age of Bronze books - I still haven't read the third. I'm pretty sure I've talked about it before, but it bares repeating.

It's basically just the Illiad, but extremely historically accurate and illustrated in a super realistic style.

MikeandRaph87
03-21-2018, 09:05 PM
hey that's something at least.
there were a few really nice moments you missed. Damian is upset because his Father puts him in lock-down in the cave, so Alfred brings him home a feral kitten.

you can blame the DC Editorial for their forced New52 into Grant's final act.
there was also a change in the tone of Batman Inc from pre-flashpoint to new52 as well.
if i had to guess, i'd imagine this was what drove Grant away from DC monthly titles, and into more creative owned properties.

i'm not sure how true this is? but according to this article Grant wanted to do a lot more stories with Dick a Damian as Batman and Robin.

https://www.cbr.com/morrison-planned-five-years-dick-damian-batman/

I would not have dropped Batman and Detective Comics then. I know the Synder/Capello run is celebrated as much as The Dick as Batman run if not more, its just not for me.

Batgirl will face Riddler in the oneshots ahead of the wedding.Only happened in an issue of the animated comic while OG Robin faces off wirh Hush. I think Dick only had a brief enclunter with Hush in a Faces of Evil story.
Its been ahile since a Batman title got be looking flrward to its release.

myconius
03-21-2018, 09:26 PM
I would not have dropped Batman and Detective Comics then. I know the Synder/Capello run is celebrated as much as The Dick as Batman run if not more, its just not for me.

Batgirl will face Riddler in the oneshots ahead of the wedding.Only happened in an issue of the animated comic while OG Robin faces off wirh Hush. I think Dick only had a brief enclunter with Hush in a Faces of Evil story.
Its been ahile since a Batman title got be looking flrward to its release.

you were smart to drop both Batman & Detective when you did!
i sure wish that i had. it'd saved me the trouble of having to sell them all after the Pyew52 had concluded.

the Snyder/Capullo stuff is WAY overrated!!!
the first 11 issues are good, but far from something i want to continue to read over and over.
and the art was the only real selling point as far as i'm concerned.
the writing got quite painful at times! and it only got worse during the 'Zero Year' 'Endgame' and 'Super Heavy' arcs!!!
quite painful!!!
pages upon pages of Turd-loads of exposition, and rambling run-on dialog.


now the way things have been going, i just can't get excited for anything new from Riddler, Batgirl OR Nightwing for that matter.

their characteristics have been swapped out for 'hipper' 'edgier' versions of themselves.

well except Nightwing though.
i'm not sure how this new writer is, but Tim Seeley was just writing one of the dullest Nightwing series i've ever read.

any writer that had anything to do with the 'Batman Eternal' and/or 'Batman & Robin Eternal' series needs to vacate Gotham immediately!!! :lol:

MikeandRaph87
03-22-2018, 04:37 PM
you were smart to drop both Batman & Detective when you did!
i sure wish that i had. it'd saved me the trouble of having to sell them all after the Pyew52 had concluded.

the Snyder/Capullo stuff is WAY overrated!!!
the first 11 issues are good, but far from something i want to continue to read over and over.
and the art was the only real selling point as far as i'm concerned.
the writing got quite painful at times! and it only got worse during the 'Zero Year' 'Endgame' and 'Super Heavy' arcs!!!
quite painful!!!
pages upon pages of Turd-loads of exposition, and rambling run-on dialog.


now the way things have been going, i just can't get excited for anything new from Riddler, Batgirl OR Nightwing for that matter.

their characteristics have been swapped out for 'hipper' 'edgier' versions of themselves.

well except Nightwing though.
i'm not sure how this new writer is, but Tim Seeley was just writing one of the dullest Nightwing series i've ever read.

any writer that had anything to do with the 'Batman Eternal' and/or 'Batman & Robin Eternal' series needs to vacate Gotham immediately!!! :lol:

Batgirl vs Riddler from the animated run, Batman & Robin Adventures 21 (of 25).
http://bwmedia.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/batman-robin-adventures-21.jpg

That is the only time the two characters interacted. I recommend it!

Being two of my four favorite Gothamites it is worth the anticipation.

I bought the current Nightwing volume #15-20. I have yet to get to it,but have it on my waiting to read list. It looked like echoes of the Morrison run.

I have read through issue 8 of Secret War at the moment. Its an interesting read and a good look at the wider Marvel line at that time. I stick almost exclusive to Spider-Man in that company so its a bit of a different read.

myconius
03-22-2018, 04:55 PM
Batgirl vs Riddler from the animated run, Batman & Robin Adventures 21 (of 25).
http://bwmedia.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/batman-robin-adventures-21.jpg

That is the only time the two characters interacted. I recommend it!

Being two of my four favorite Gothamites it is worth the anticipation.

I bought the current Nightwing volume #15-20. I have yet to get to it,but have it on my waiting to read list. It looked like echoes of the Morrison run.

I have read through issue 8 of Secret War at the moment. Its an interesting read and a good look at the wider Marvel line at that time. I stick almost exclusive to Spider-Man in that company so its a bit of a different read.

i tried reading Nightwing 15-20 and found it pretty horrid.
a bastardization of a brilliant run.

i might have that Batman Adventures in my Comixology?
been trying to get all the digital trades as they come out.
if i do i'll eventually give it a looksee.

the last Marvel i ever bought was ther renumbered Amazing Spiderman, Avenging Spiderman and Savage Wolverine. think i lasted about 6 or 7 issues of each before dropping them.

MikeandRaph87
03-22-2018, 05:01 PM
i tried reading Nightwing 15-20 and found it pretty horrid.
a bastardization of a brilliant run.

i might have that Batman Adventures in my Comixology?
been trying to get all the digital trades as they come out.
if i do i'll eventually give it a looksee.

the last Marvel i ever bought was ther renumbered Amazing Spiderman, Avenging Spiderman and Savage Wolverine. think i lasted about 6 or 7 issues of each before dropping them.

It will not release until late July. You can use the website I showed you.
https://www.amazon.com/Batman-Robin-Adventures-Vol-3/dp/1401281389

I bought the Superior run and then I kept the subscription going, but quickly got bored with it. I got it through issue 10 and dropped it. I think the volume went for 20 issues before restarting again. I did enjoy Superior and if you are a Dr. Octopus fan like myself I recommend it.