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Vegita-San
08-08-2016, 05:51 PM
This is the first tmnt series i'm thinking about totally dropping and binge watching when it's all done on netflix or somewhere.


The long breaks certainly are not helping it. Seasons seem to be a thing of the past in this tivo world, and i can't remember when it's new and when it's not. it seems to go away 4 weeks or more at a time, and only shows 4 new episodes at a time....

The humor and action are all kind of juvenile, on par with, or a step below the old show (fart jokes and dancing mushrooms? farting chickens with exploding eggs?)

there is no character development

Things get brought up, and forgotten. characters get introduced and are thrown away. ideas come in for one episode and gone forever. (April's mother. Krang Prime...)

It can't decide if it wants to be a horror show, a somewhat more adult action oriented show, or an all out there family guy comedy action show.

I just don't think it's a good show in general, and only my loyalty to the brand keeps me going at this point. and that gets weaker the more corporate stuff that comes out.

where is the passion and fun and caring that I Saw in most of the 4Kids series? that show seems largely forgotten about...

anyone else feel the same way? Did you finally give up turtles for good? at least with this round? do you miss it?

CyberCubed
08-08-2016, 05:53 PM
Of course not. The show is consistently good and I'm watching it till the day it ends, which will hopefully not be until it hits 7 seasons and around 150 episodes.

In all seriousness though, I have no reason to drop it. I enjoy roughly 80% of its episodes and its been consistently enjoyable. I also plan on rewatching it in the future endlessly like I do with the original cartoon and 2k3 series.

Jester
08-08-2016, 05:53 PM
I haven't dropped the show, the show dropped me....

...well...not really, but holy crap this recent hiatus is insane.

Candy Kappa
08-08-2016, 05:54 PM
The long breaks is difficult, but I wouldn't say I've dropped out, just saving up episodes.

turtlefanforever
08-08-2016, 06:17 PM
i dropped the show after the first episode. complete crap. Feel bad Paulsens name is attached to this.

CyberCubed
08-08-2016, 06:19 PM
i dropped the show after the first episode. complete crap. Feel bad Paulsens name is attached to this.

You dropped the show after 1 episode, when the first episode was quite good? What?

FredWolfLeonardo
08-08-2016, 06:28 PM
I love the show, and I don't mind the long breaks really. There are so many things to do in life that the next episode airs before you know it, and after like 2 months of not seeing any episodes, watching a new episode feels really fresh and exciting to me.

Vegita-San
08-08-2016, 06:35 PM
i dropped the show after the first episode. complete crap. Feel bad Paulsens name is attached to this.

I don't think it's complete crap.

30-40% crap maybe, but not complete crap.

Problem lies with a battle between the show runners and nick not having a clear enough vision, I think.

its definitely not the strongest outing. and it's a shame, because it has the potential to be. the animation is there. the music is there. the voices are there. it's just missing that spark.

NinjaPug
08-08-2016, 06:40 PM
You dropped the show after 1 episode, when the first episode was quite good? What?

His first post on these forums was calling for this show to be canceled. He's seen more than the first episode though because I've seen him comment on more than that one. Not sure what that hyperbole is about.

Autbot_Benz
08-08-2016, 06:50 PM
i dropped the show after the first episode. complete crap. Feel bad Paulsens name is attached to this.

http://i.imgur.com/oMYwReI.jpg

BubblyShell22
08-09-2016, 08:23 AM
No, I haven't dropped this show. I still love it and will keep watching it until it ends. Yeah, I know the breaks are hard to deal with, but all you have to do is either watch the reruns if you want your TMNT fix or try to find something else to do. I've been doing a lot of reading during the hiatus and it's worked for me.

raph27
08-09-2016, 09:11 AM
I've been less attentive to it recently. Not really a fan of the space arc. I watched up to Trans-Dimensional Turtles and then didn't watch any until today when I watched Revenge of the Triceratons. Hoping to catch up soon.

thundermaster612
08-09-2016, 09:22 AM
I won't drop it. When its on hiatus I don't pay a lot of attention to it and wait but I still make sure to catch news about it and stuff.

Splinter the boss
08-09-2016, 10:20 AM
I'm not dropping the show. I admit the breaks are discouraging, however it's enough material to keep me entertained. Besides, I have other shows that I take interest in.

plastroncafe
08-09-2016, 10:24 AM
I haven't dropped it, but I haven't kept up with it either.

JH24
08-09-2016, 11:38 AM
I haven't dropped it. But I haven't really been keeping up with it either. I wasn't a fan of the Space Arc although there were definitely a few good episodes. I have no idea what they've planned for the second half of the season. The first time I'm going blind into this series.

victory_angel
08-09-2016, 11:41 AM
I do admit this series has its problems and the breaks are a pain in the butt. But I do enjoy what the show it trying to do and anticipate every episode that comes. To pass the time during hiatuses I do read and enjoy the fanfictions of FF.net. There are a number of them that are written well enough to be just as good as an episode of TMNT if not better. (If anything they go to levels and explore concepts the show can't because of standards and practice.) And I also write a few of these myself, and I do find it humbling every time someone reviewing my work says I should be a writer for the show.

Jephael
08-09-2016, 12:14 PM
I'm not dropping the show either, but I do feel like it's the last animated interpretation of TMNT that I'll be this invested in. I need to move on with my life and explore other things in the world.

CyberCubed
08-09-2016, 03:17 PM
I'm not dropping the show either, but I do feel like it's the last animated interpretation of TMNT that I'll be this invested in. I need to move on with my life and explore other things in the world.

You do realize you can still do that and still watch TMNT shows. Dropping one franchise isn't going to completely change your life.

Metalwolf
08-09-2016, 03:24 PM
Don't know if I have dropped it completely, but I do have far less interest in it then when I started. I watched up to the midpoint of Season 3 (where they returned to New York) but the character derailments and goofiness of what were supposed to be more 'serious' characters (a lot of the bad guys) made me start losing interest. Plus the space episodes, keeping Karai a morphing mutant instead of a regular human, and having April be overly psychic-powered is something that keeps me from coming back.

I still like the universe, but the main way I keep liking it is by head-canonizing it as all of the space elements, time travel, and degenerating baddies being the product of Mikey trying to take his love of comics up a notch and making up his own, recounting the TMNT's adventures but embellishing them or even completely making up wacky stuff to make them more 'exciting.' He exaggerates some elements and might even make his brothers almost OOC at times (like Donny's almost stalkerish behavior towards April) because he's not totally good at it yet, although making his interactions with the baddies a touch goofy is his way of poking fun at them.

It's a weird way of going about things, but it works for me. :trolleye:

Jephael
08-09-2016, 03:32 PM
You do realize you can still do that and still watch TMNT shows. Dropping one franchise isn't going to completely change your life.

I'm not saying I'm totally done with the Ninja Turtles, but they're just not as important to me as they used to be. My dad always says it's not healthy to live in the past, and sometimes I feel like that's all I ever do when I indulge in this stuff. I'd rather focus on my own original ideas and characters.

BubblyShell22
08-09-2016, 04:19 PM
I think that's a good way to look at it if you want to, Jeph. Original ideas are a good thing.

Chris
08-09-2016, 04:43 PM
Not dropped it (I think I'm up to date with UK airings, so an episode or 2 before the end of the space arc) but I'm no longer racing to watch the latest US episode online. Probably should though, I've no idea when it's coming back on over here.

Gotta say though, the drawn out arcs with lots of filler episodes (Northampton last season, Space arc this season) combined with the long breaks really are killer.

Vegita-San
08-09-2016, 05:05 PM
I'm not saying I'm totally done with the Ninja Turtles, but they're just not as important to me as they used to be. My dad always says it's not healthy to live in the past, and sometimes I feel like that's all I ever do when I indulge in this stuff. I'd rather focus on my own original ideas and characters.

I kind of feel the same way. but only since the buyout happened. there just doesn't seem to be alot of care put in to making it the best it can be. although i don't think they are going out of their way to make a bad product....no one really does. just, something is missing and the care doesn't seem to be there.


to me, the only thing i really look forward to each time is idw products.

CyberCubed
08-09-2016, 06:11 PM
Considering the writers are huge TMNT fans and have taken characters and plotlines from all the series, I think they're in good hands. They also revived characters I never expected to see again like Lord Dregg, Mutagen Man, Muckman, Wyrm, the other various mutants, etc.

ZacksSoUgly
08-09-2016, 06:44 PM
I'm doing the opposite of dropping the show. I'm becoming more invested 'cos I'm starting a podcast about it. I'll post more on that as it gets closer to fruition, but my here's my thoughts :

This show is good. Sometimes it's great. The animation style is awesome, the voice cast is perfect, and I really enjoy the way the writing blends genres throughout the seasons. I grew up with the FW show, but it doesn't age well. I didn't get into the 4Kids show 'cos I was too concerned with high school, basketball and girls - I know, I regret it. Now, as a 27yr old, I thoroughly enjoy the Nick cartoon. Are there things I dislike? Sure, but they're few and far between (mostly pacing issues). I feel like the writers and showrunners do a good job of balancing the fun and serious aspects of the Turtles, we get to see lots of martial arts action, and the Turtles characterizations are some of my favorite. I wish they didn't harp on Mikey being an airhead so much, but I know kids enjoy that.

Long story longer, I dig this show and I hope it continues to do well and I hope it reaches Cybercubed's goal of 150 episodes (and then some).

ABrown
08-09-2016, 06:46 PM
Seasons three and four have certainly made me consider it.

Huzzah
08-09-2016, 08:35 PM
My biggest problem with the show, is it suffers from the same problems That all Nickelodeon series suffer from. Weird breaks and hiatuses that make no sense.

sdp
08-09-2016, 09:49 PM
I dropped the show in the beginning of S3. I'm not a big fan of following shows week to week anymore, I just don't have the patience, especially with hiatuses. I lose track of when it comes back and whatnot. I don't hate the show but I also don't love it which makes me even more apathetic about it. I'll definitely be marathoning it when we know it's airing its final season.

TMNTInsighter
08-09-2016, 09:54 PM
Hey, even Batman TAS had its fair share of stinkers and it's one of the best action cartoons of all time. I even own every volume on DVD.

As for this version of the TMNT, it's definitely one of the most ambitious series to hit the airwaves in a long time and that alone makes it worth the watch. Some episodes are definitely under appreciated and so many of the characters and story threads hold a LOT of potential.

As for the hiatuses though, I agree. I know there's more work involved in this kind of animation than is usually the case but I just ran some numbers. This is apparently the longest hiatus we've been stuck in: 111 days between new episodes (ELS to City at War), and these aren't finales and/or premieres. That number is unacceptable! And I know a lot of live action shows as well (ex. Person of Interest) have been going on hiatuses between episodes too.
I know that they said the new movie being released was a part of the reason new episodes either couldn't or wouldn't take place--that's a pile of garbage! If anything, new episodes would've helped with the promotion. It bombed though and I'm both surprised and glad it did. I love the TMNT, they're some of the most developed characters I've ever seen, but a Michael Bay involved pic finally got what it deserved.

Anyhow, I'm looking forward to it returning this Sunday. I'm most interested to see how Karai will get her revenge and most likely taking control of the Foot Clan away from Shredder with Shinigami's and the turtles' help. I'm also looking forward to seeing more Mutanimals as I do find the supporting cast just as good if not more interesting than the main one.

victory_angel
08-09-2016, 11:59 PM
I'm doing the opposite of dropping the show. I'm becoming more invested 'cos I'm starting a podcast about it. I'll post more on that as it gets closer to fruition, but my here's my thoughts :

This show is good. Sometimes it's great. The animation style is awesome, the voice cast is perfect, and I really enjoy the way the writing blends genres throughout the seasons. I grew up with the FW show, but it doesn't age well. I didn't get into the 4Kids show 'cos I was too concerned with high school, basketball and girls - I know, I regret it. Now, as a 27yr old, I thoroughly enjoy the Nick cartoon. Are there things I dislike? Sure, but they're few and far between (mostly pacing issues). I feel like the writers and showrunners do a good job of balancing the fun and serious aspects of the Turtles, we get to see lots of martial arts action, and the Turtles characterizations are some of my favorite. I wish they didn't harp on Mikey being an airhead so much, but I know kids enjoy that.

Long story longer, I dig this show and I hope it continues to do well and I hope it reaches Cybercubed's goal of 150 episodes (and then some).

I'm already running a TMNT podcast called Heroes in a Half-Cast you are welcome to join us.

The-Shredder
08-10-2016, 12:21 PM
I unintentionally dropped it after Race with the Demon, which was when the show went into hiatus during the winter. After losing track of the new episodes on nick.com, I just lost interest in being up to date with the show. I plan to catch up once I take advantage of a free Hulu trial or something, but I'm not in any rush to do so.

I am on the same boat with Vegita-San. I had qualms about this show since the previews first came out, and I am still not fully impressed. Sure, it has made me chuckle a few times, but it has grossed me out and left my head scratching a lot more. With the Fred Wolf and 4Kids shows, I can always come back to them and watch episodes that I enjoy. With the Nick show, I can't say I have ever felt the urge to rewatch them.

For the next TMNT series, I feel it should be somewhat in vain of the Red Sky seasons of the Fred Wolf show, just without the ominous red sky, way less mutants, and a mix of lighthearted humor with serious action. Maybe even bring Raphael's sarcasm and breaking the fourth wall back.

Jephael
08-10-2016, 12:22 PM
For the next TMNT series, I feel it should be somewhat in vain of the Red Sky seasons of the Fred Wolf show, just without ominous red sky, and a mix of lighthearted humor with serious action. Maybe even bring Raphael's sarcasm and breaking the fourth wall back.

So basically the 4Kids cartoon with fourth wall jokes.

The-Shredder
08-10-2016, 12:26 PM
So basically the 4Kids cartoon with fourth wall jokes.

Come to think of it, that wouldn't be such a great idea. I guess what I meant was a mix of Fred Wolf Raphael with 4Kids Raphael.

Vegita-San
08-10-2016, 12:31 PM
I am on the same boat with Vegita-San. I had qualms about this show since the previews first came out, and I am still not fully impressed. Sure, it has made me chuckle a few times, but it has grossed me out and left my head scratching a lot more. With the Fred Wolf and 4Kids shows, I can always come back to them and watch episodes that I enjoy. With the Nick show, I can't say I have ever felt the urge to rewatch them.


yeah. this is the ONLY show where I havn't felt the need to rewatch maybe 95% of the shows. I'd say more than 3/4ths have been one and dones. and some I had to force myself to finish, like gross out ShellAcne and Mega Shredder episodes.

Me, one of the older bigger tmnt fans sees no need to rewatch this show, or continue watching it.

If I'm not alone in that thought, in the old days nick would notice they'd have a problem. b ut that was back when die hard fans mattered to studios.

plastroncafe
08-10-2016, 01:18 PM
I've rewatched the occasional Season 1 episode now and again.
In particular the Pulverizer series, because I still maintain that watching that kid just melt and be kept in a tank is one of the most disturbing things the show has ever done.

I've also recommended the show to a friend who's a professor of sociology at the undergraduate level. She was teaching a module on Nice Guys/Friend Zone, and that episode with Don's April Will Hang Out With me flow chart wound up being one of her slides.

Rather proud of that one.

Papenbrook
08-10-2016, 08:40 PM
The show got worse for me. I plan on dropping it.

Meliwen
08-10-2016, 08:57 PM
I've kind of stopped watching after Moons of Thalos 3. Mainly because season 3 burned me out a bit (I've gotten really tired of Leo lately), and the next episode just really didn't seem like my cup of tea. So I skipped it, and skipped most of the space episodes. I've only watched maybe 3 or 4. Although mostly it was just because my attention was captured by other things and not necessarily because I outright disliked the show.

I wouldn't say I dropped the show, just taken my own hiatus from it. I'm gonna keep up and probably watch the new episodes and watch the ones I missed after my enthusiasm for the show is rekindled.

DVD
08-12-2016, 08:53 PM
I always look forward to the new episodes and have seen every one within a couple of hours of the US premieres.
As for breaks: In a given season we have been getting 26 episodes. If they were screened back to back, we have a 6 month lul with nothing new.
The show also has to sell the toys, so it's in Nick's best interest to keep the show 'fresh' throughout the year.
Of course the most most recent, long lul, allowed fort the new movie - which I a still haven't seen. Bad timing on my part.
So no - not dropping the show.

Utrommaniac
08-12-2016, 09:17 PM
This was the first TMNT show I managed to binge watch when I decided to check it out last year.

All things considered, it seems more like it dropped me. I'll still watch it, if only to see where things go from where it left off. Doesn't mean I'll enjoy it, and maybe there will be some things I'll like. But I know they're not going to resolve any of the crushes anytime soon, and they'll probably do a sh*t job with the new girl character.

TMNTInsighter
08-12-2016, 10:07 PM
...they'll probably do a sh*t job with the new girl character.

That's a pretty unfounded accusation there. :roll:

GoldMutant
08-13-2016, 09:31 AM
That's a pretty unfounded accusation there. :roll:

Quick summary of this all:

Karai- Continuous shift in her character. By that, I mean no sense of real identity (unless this part of season 4 brings something new) and she serves as a plot device since her mutation, mind control did nothing to advance the story except prolong her arc.

Irma (before the Sub-Prime reveal)- Extraneous character who served no purpose in nearly any episode she appeared in.

April- I wish not to comment on it as it's a difficult assessment, very subjective.

Renet and Mona- Until either reappear, both used as relationship fodder.

Queen and Rook (Utrom Council)- Shrouded in mystery that could be further explored, only used once.

It's not difficult to see why someone would be annoyed, most of them are relationship based or not used to their full potential. Unless Shinigami leaves an impression, I reserve my doubts.

plastroncafe
08-13-2016, 09:53 AM
I wouldn't consider that an unfounded opinion at all.

Casey
08-13-2016, 09:57 AM
I haven't dropped the show, the show dropped me....

...well...not really, but holy crap this recent hiatus is insane.

I don't like the drugs, but the drugs like me!

-Marilyn Manson

Also, same.

thundermaster612
08-13-2016, 10:20 AM
Least the hiatus is over tomorrow

BubblyShell22
08-13-2016, 12:39 PM
I can't wait to see Shingami and what her role will be. And based on reports that Yeo is also in season five, the character just might come back.

Utrommaniac
08-13-2016, 01:15 PM
Quick summary of this all:

Karai- Continuous shift in her character. By that, I mean no sense of real identity (unless this part of season 4 brings something new) and she serves as a plot device since her mutation, mind control did nothing to advance the story except prolong her arc.

Irma (before the Sub-Prime reveal)- Extraneous character who served no purpose in nearly any episode she appeared in.

April- I wish not to comment on it as it's a difficult assessment, very subjective.

Renet and Mona- Until either reappear, both used as relationship fodder.

Queen and Rook (Utrom Council)- Shrouded in mystery that could be further explored, only used once.

It's not difficult to see why someone would be annoyed, most of them are relationship based or not used to their full potential. Unless Shinigami leaves an impression, I reserve my doubts.

Yep, that's pretty much it. The best way I can describe these issues is that they're not quite done cooking. Sure, they're edible for a while, until you start noticing that something's not quite right. It can go for the whole show.
The thing that annoys me about Queen is how she breaks the status quo for female characters within the show and Utroms overall, but there seems to be little chance of seeing her again.

I have some reservations about Shinigami, but they're pretty shallow. She's pulling the same 'goth' line that Karai (even not deliberately for her) and Irma did, and her being a witch doesn't help it much at all. I already have an idea of what to expect with her...especially thanks to Kitsune in IDW

CyberCubed
08-13-2016, 04:49 PM
Renet's not shipper fodder at all. She's there for plot related material.

Vegita-San
08-13-2016, 04:55 PM
Yep, that's pretty much it. The best way I can describe these issues is that they're not quite done cooking. Sure, they're edible for a while, until you start noticing that something's not quite right. It can go for the whole show.
The thing that annoys me about Queen is how she breaks the status quo for female characters within the show and Utroms overall, but there seems to be little chance of seeing her again.

I have some reservations about Shinigami, but they're pretty shallow. She's pulling the same 'goth' line that Karai (even not deliberately for her) and Irma did, and her being a witch doesn't help it much at all. I already have an idea of what to expect with her...especially thanks to Kitsune in IDW

didn't even know there WAS another character coming.
but ANOTHER goth like character?

ugh...

there is just something about this show that is more groan worthy than the others.

BubblyShell22
08-13-2016, 05:01 PM
I'm not bothered by it, and it'll be interesting to see how she became friends with Karai. The fact that she's a witch is also pretty cool.

CyberCubed
08-14-2016, 12:54 PM
didn't even know there WAS another character coming.
but ANOTHER goth like character?

ugh...

there is just something about this show that is more groan worthy than the others.

What do you mean by, "goth character?" She's a witch.

Utrommaniac
08-14-2016, 08:34 PM
That doesn't mean she has to dress like her entire wardrobe is from Nocturn Alley's Hot Topic.

TMNTInsighter
08-14-2016, 08:35 PM
I'm not bothered by it, and it'll be interesting to see how she became friends with Karai. The fact that she's a witch is also pretty cool.

And a trickster as well. I like those kind of characters.

T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!
08-14-2016, 08:45 PM
The show is awesome and I couldn't imagine not watching it. It's everything I love about TMNT all in one spot. I feel like it's a love letter to my generation and I think it's easily the best incarnation of the animated Turtles. Stellar voice acting. Great production value. Great characterizations. Great storytelling that actually generates genuine emotion. It's just a great show and I can't wait until the next episode.

snake
08-14-2016, 08:55 PM
Renet's not shipper fodder at all. She's there for plot related material.

Those tiddays are top notch plot IMO

DarkFell
08-14-2016, 11:32 PM
I haven't entirely dropped the show from my radar, but at the same token, I don't watch it hardcore either.

Youtube seems to be an outlet for me to watch the old episodes since the Nickelodeon site continually locks up various episodes, to which I do find very annoying, but I digress.

Shiro Kame
08-14-2016, 11:40 PM
I haven't entirely dropped the show from my radar, but at the same token, I don't watch it hardcore either.

Pretty much how I view TMNT currently. I'm just not into it as much as I was in my mid-teens. I don't know why, but TMNT is no longer much of a big deal to me anymore. Season 4 having some mediocre and pretty bad episodes did not help.

CyberCubed
08-14-2016, 11:57 PM
Pretty much how I view TMNT currently. I'm just not into it as much as I was in my mid-teens. I don't know why, but TMNT is no longer much of a big deal to me anymore. Season 4 having some mediocre and pretty bad episodes did not help.

Which mediocre episodes?

ToTheNines
08-15-2016, 03:39 AM
Beyond the known universe, Wyrm, Ancient Aeons, Revenge of the Triceretons, Evil of Dregg.

Some of the good ones had a bad first half, like Earth's Last Stand.

Many disliked the Mona Lisa stuff.

Vegita-San
08-15-2016, 06:14 AM
I I feel like it's a love letter to my generation a

If you'll pardon the insult at a generation,
that's a good way to describe it, but not in a GOOD way IMHO.

This generations entertainment seems to delve alot into stupid family guy like humor, fart jokes, and dumbed down entertainment that doesn't seem to have that extra spark that the old toy driven stuff had.

People are STILL talking about He-Man, as stupid as it was, 30 years later. something tells me this new TMNT show will be forgotten as quickly as some people have the newr 4kids series, which was vastly superior IMHO, and DID have that extra fun spark.


this doesn't feel very much like tmnt to me at all. the characters are watered down and unlikable. mikey has the intelligence of a dumb 4th grader. any girl on the show instantly has to like one of the guys...etc.
This newest episode..oh, look, it's Karai. someone who's been forgotten about since the middle of season 3, IIRC. now suddenly she's back in full force, and with a new friend no less?

for lack of a better description, to me, it's juvenile without much substance. it doesn't feel like a lived in world either when plot points pop up out of nowhere and get quickly forgotten.

snake
08-15-2016, 09:52 AM
If you'll pardon the insult at a generation,
that's a good way to describe it, but not in a GOOD way IMHO.

This generations entertainment seems to delve alot into stupid family guy like humor, fart jokes, and dumbed down entertainment that doesn't seem to have that extra spark that the old toy driven stuff had.

People are STILL talking about He-Man, as stupid as it was, 30 years later. something tells me this new TMNT show will be forgotten as quickly as some people have the newr 4kids series, which was vastly superior IMHO, and DID have that extra fun spark.


this doesn't feel very much like tmnt to me at all. the characters are watered down and unlikable. mikey has the intelligence of a dumb 4th grader. any girl on the show instantly has to like one of the guys...etc.
This newest episode..oh, look, it's Karai. someone who's been forgotten about since the middle of season 3, IIRC. now suddenly she's back in full force, and with a new friend no less?

for lack of a better description, to me, it's juvenile without much substance. it doesn't feel like a lived in world either when plot points pop up out of nowhere and get quickly forgotten.
People still talk about He-Man because of the toys and MOTUC, as well as how goofy the old show is. Not because of how great it was.

Metalwolf
08-15-2016, 01:12 PM
If you'll pardon the insult at a generation,
that's a good way to describe it, but not in a GOOD way IMHO.

This generations entertainment seems to delve alot into stupid family guy like humor, fart jokes, and dumbed down entertainment that doesn't seem to have that extra spark that the old toy driven stuff had.

People are STILL talking about He-Man, as stupid as it was, 30 years later. something tells me this new TMNT show will be forgotten as quickly as some people have the newr 4kids series, which was vastly superior IMHO, and DID have that extra fun spark.


this doesn't feel very much like tmnt to me at all. the characters are watered down and unlikable. mikey has the intelligence of a dumb 4th grader. any girl on the show instantly has to like one of the guys...etc.
This newest episode..oh, look, it's Karai. someone who's been forgotten about since the middle of season 3, IIRC. now suddenly she's back in full force, and with a new friend no less?

for lack of a better description, to me, it's juvenile without much substance. it doesn't feel like a lived in world either when plot points pop up out of nowhere and get quickly forgotten.1000% agree. And might I add to this list the almost complete lack of normal people? The only two we really have is Casey (who's an utter ass) Shredder (who is the top baddie) and April's dad (who is getting into heavy neurosis territory.) Everyone else is either a mutant, a half-Kraang, a Kraang in disguise, or destined to become yet another mutant. There is nothing to make the mutants feel 'special' anymore because almost everyone is somehow not 100% human. Shingami might remain human, but odds are she's going to end up a love interest and/or a mutant eventually.

I also think you might be right about this show possibly being forgotten in time. Enough people are still liking this show for now, but there has been a drop off in audience over time, and even some of us have stopped watching or opted to wait until the show ends and/or the complete DVDs to come out to attempt watching again. I think the real test will be if this show holds up 30 years from now, if it helps influence other TMNTs or if this will be a single note that tooted and then went silent.

Don't get me wrong, I liked this show (I still love the universe, but with limits) and I didn't want it to fail. I wanted it to keep 'maturing' like The Clone Wars, Batman: TAS, and other shows did, where it started off on shaky legs, but eventually became something people still talk about in reference. Maybe it will still have a good season, and it ends on a high note. I'm hoping they will address Kartai's mutation (for reals this time, no half-assed excuse for not completely curing her) what they will eventually do with the Foot, and all of the additional human-turned-mutants that are wandering underneath the city. If they do all of these things, I just might go and watch the non-filler episodes that I have not yet seen, because it will feel worth it again. But for now, I m holding off on this show.

CyberCubed
08-15-2016, 01:18 PM
People are STILL talking about He-Man, as stupid as it was, 30 years later. something tells me this new TMNT show will be forgotten as quickly as some people have the newr 4kids series, which was vastly superior IMHO, and DID have that extra fun spark.

Dude, the kids watching the Nick cartoon are still kids. You have to wait till years from now when they all become adults and get nostalgic for this show. Of course the kids who are watching and growing up with this show now will look back upon it when they're adults, that's what we all did with the kids shows we watched. You're a 30+ year old adult wondering why this show isn't as exciting to you as shows you watched when you were kids.

this doesn't feel very much like tmnt to me at all. the characters are watered down and unlikable.

All the characters feel exactly like TMNT characters. What does that even mean?

This newest episode..oh, look, it's Karai. someone who's been forgotten about since the middle of season 3, IIRC. now suddenly she's back in full force, and with a new friend no less?

Are you being serious? Now I can tell you're making stuff up. Karai hasn't been "forgotten" about. The last we saw her she lost the brain worm and wasn't under Shredder's control anymore. She knows Splinter is her father now and she hates Shredder. She still has her snake mutation only its under control.

And why the hell can't Karai have a friend? You think Karai having a human friend from Japan is so strange? I really don't get your logic.

Powder
08-15-2016, 04:30 PM
He got blocked by Ciro on FB ages ago & then went on to post about what a bad person he was on a He-man forum. This is obviously just his personal bias speaking. :tlol:

Metalwolf
08-15-2016, 04:51 PM
He got blocked by Ciro on FB ages ago & then went on to post about what a bad person he was on a He-man forum. This is obviously just his personal bias speaking. :tlol:Who's this, Cubed or Vegita-san?

CyberCubed
08-15-2016, 05:10 PM
Who's this, Cubed or Vegita-san?

Vegita-san, obviously. I don't go on facebook.

Vegita-San
08-15-2016, 05:42 PM
dude, don't bring personal stuff onto threads.


Hello, mods?

Although, if you want to be honest about it....quite frankly, yeah.
There is still some left over bitterness about that.....

I was already on the fence about the show then, and after that happened, where I dared to say that the Mutagen Man is one of the most useless characters ever invented, I still stand by that statement.

It HAS clouded my vision on the show ever since.

CyberCubed
08-15-2016, 05:44 PM
So because you find Mutagen Man useless, a character who only appeared in like 3 episodes, that colors your opinion on the entire show?

Vegita-San
08-15-2016, 06:17 PM
No....it's just not my style.


I was feeling this way somewhere right around the end of season 1. after season 2, it just got worse from there... and I REALLY started to loose interest during the farm episodes.

I probably will give it up after this season ends.
the only thing that really keeps me coming back for more tries is loyalty to the brand.


it's nice to know a few people feel that way too....my inner turtle fan is telling myself I should give it more tries. My inner humanity is telling me i should have dropped it long ago.

and it's not just turtles. i'm loosing interest in alot of things lately. I feel like, especially with things that call themselves reboots, everything's been done before, and i've seen it done better.

CyberCubed
08-15-2016, 06:19 PM
Its probably mainly age. You're in your 30's now. The original cartoon aired when you were a kid, and the 2k3 series when we were late teens or early 20's.

Obviously a 30 something year old adult isn't going to find children cartoons as appealing.

Vegita-San
08-15-2016, 06:29 PM
it's entirely possible.

but if so, it's the first one that's hit.

it probably won't be the last though.

It's odd....the space arc is the first arc that I actually enjoyed with very little complaint.. and i can't figure out why.

I'm also getting grumpier in my old age. I guess it's nice to know that i'm not the only one that's happening too either. so i'm part of the curve!

Casey
08-16-2016, 08:15 AM
People are STILL talking about He-Man, as stupid as it was, 30 years later. something tells me this new TMNT show will be forgotten as quickly as some people have the newr 4kids series, which was vastly superior IMHO, and DID have that extra fun spark.


this doesn't feel very much like tmnt to me at all. the characters are watered down and unlikable. mikey has the intelligence of a dumb 4th grader. any girl on the show instantly has to like one of the guys...etc.
This newest episode..oh, look, it's Karai. someone who's been forgotten about since the middle of season 3, IIRC. now suddenly she's back in full force, and with a new friend no less?

for lack of a better description, to me, it's juvenile without much substance. it doesn't feel like a lived in world either when plot points pop up out of nowhere and get quickly forgotten.


You are sorely underestimating the power of Viacom and more specifically Nickelodeon. I recognize this isn't definitive or research but: Even when the 4K show was on, I couldn't find anyone who was a teenager, adult, or even child that was watching. I hear about the Nick cartoon fairly often. By the early 00s, people had all but stopped watching terrestrial broadcast television and switched to cable and satellite TV.

Exhibit A: http://i.imgur.com/bJKeeK6m.png

^This is a thing now. "Watch television FOR FREE!?"

miru
08-31-2016, 12:51 PM
Fell off after Season 1 ended, have occasionally returned since.

The Big Bad
09-01-2016, 06:00 AM
Stopped watching with any regularity since my cable provider stopped carrying Nickelodeon. I still catch the occasional episode, but after two and a half seasons of sticking with it to see whether it it could possibly improve (and it has, in some respects--just not the way I wish it did) I don't feel the desire to follow it with any consistency. I watched "City at War" and "Broken Foot" to see what the Shinigami hype was all about, but don't know when I'll watch again.

myconius
09-04-2016, 09:53 AM
You dropped the show after 1 episode, when the first episode was quite good? What?

yeah, that's pretty nuts eh!!!

billbot85
05-28-2017, 09:41 AM
I stopped watching after season 3 ended, mostly because season 4 didn't get added to hulu until recently, and I took a break from the show since life was getting pretty busy for me. I wouldn't say i lost interest though since I really enjoy the show.

I finally watched season 4 in the past couple months and 1 ep. of season 5, so I haven't been fully up to date on what's going on in the series.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-28-2017, 09:46 AM
Ive seen all episodes.