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CyberCubed
09-01-2016, 01:08 AM
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They don't make them like this anymore.

Icebot
09-01-2016, 06:14 AM
Has most of my favorite music!

Refractive Reflections
09-02-2016, 02:06 AM
"Classic music"... lol, considering that song ("Just The Two Of Us") is from 1981. I assumed "classic" would refer back to 1950s and earlier.

But yeah, the romantic slow ballad is basically nonexistent nowadays in Top 40 radio, though there is the very rare exception with Adele currently (but even she rarely produces optimistic love songs).

Psychology professors are noticing that popular music has been substantially more narcissistic, which some of them seem to conclude is a reflection about contemporary society:

http://www.thewire.com/national/2011/04/pop-music-so-narcissistic-these-days/36274/
http://www.neatorama.com/2016/07/23/Study-Music-Is-Becoming-More-Narcissistic/
http://www.npr.org/2011/04/26/135745227/study-narcissism-on-rise-in-pop-lyrics


The first piece of evidence comes from psychologists Keith Campbell of the University of Georgia and Jean Twenge of San Diego State University. For a book called "The Narcissism Epidemic" (Free Press 2009), Campbell and Twenge analyzed several decades worth of data from the Narcissism Personality Inventory, a questionnaire administered in psychology surveys that asks participants to choose between two statements like "I try not to be a show-off" and "I will usually show off if I get the chance." The psychologists found that narcissism has been growing since the early 1980s, especially among young people.

Nathan DeWall, a psychologist at the University of Kentucky, has come to the same conclusion based on quite a different avenue of research. DeWall and his colleagues analyzed the lyrics of songs on the Billboard Hot 100 Chart from 1980 to 2007. They found a statistically significant trend toward narcissism in the music, with the words "I" and "me" gradually replacing "we" and "us." Recent examples of narcissism in popular songs include Justin Timberlake's 2006 proclamation, "I'm bringing sexy back," and Beyoncé's 2005 line, "It's blazin', you watch me in amazement."

Corresponding to the rise in narcissism is a related trend toward hostility and anger and away from happiness and contentment. Narcissism and outward hostility have been linked by psychology research in the past, and DeWall's analysis, published in the journal Psychology of Aesthetics, Creativity and the Arts, shows that it is linked in song lyrics as well.

"In the early '80s lyrics, love was easy and positive, and about two people," Twenge told the New York Times. "The recent songs are about what the individual wants, and how she or he has been disappointed or wronged."

In the 2008 Weezer song "I'm the Greatest Man that Ever Lived," for example, lead singer Rivers Cuomo sings "I'm the meanest in the place, step up, I'll mess with your face." The irony? The song is a remake — and rewrite — of an old Christian folk song about love and humility.

http://www.livescience.com/13879-song-lyrics-suggest-narcissism-rise.html

I highly doubt these type of songs could regain their prominent spots of the past if they were released today :P:
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U.S. Billboard Hot 100: #2 - October 1986

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U.S. Billboard Hot 100: #1 - June 1987

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U.S. Billboard Hot 100: #6 - December 1989

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U.S. Billboard Hot 100: #1 - March/April 1992

CyberCubed
09-02-2016, 02:46 PM
"Classic music"... lol, considering that song ("Just The Two Of Us") is from 1981. I assumed "classic" would refer back to 1950s and earlier.

80's music is now classic. The passage of time has made the 80's more than 30 years old.

If back in the 80's people considered 50's music "classic" when it was only 20 years prior, then certainly now 80's music is classic. The young kids of today have never bought a CD player in their life, let alone casette tapes or Sony walkmans.

plastroncafe
09-02-2016, 02:51 PM
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Spike Spiegel
09-03-2016, 09:42 AM
I could tell this was a CyberCubed thread just from the title.

CyberCubed
09-03-2016, 11:44 AM
Here's another great oldie but goodie:

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Man, classical music just had so much heart and soul in it. The young kids of today don't know what they're missing. Anyone else love classical music like this?

TurtleTitan97
09-03-2016, 11:46 AM
I don't think you know what "classical music" even means.

TheSkeletonMan939
09-03-2016, 11:50 AM
Man, classical music just had so much heart and soul in it. The young kids of today don't know what they're missing. Anyone else love classical music like this?

That's not classical, you dunce.
THIS is an example of classical.

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Indeed, the kids really don't know what they're missing.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
09-03-2016, 11:54 AM
What's classical changes over time as the Futurama clip shows.

ToTheNines
09-03-2016, 11:57 AM
My favorite classical music

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I'm sure cubed thinks it's heavy metal though.

CyberCubed
09-03-2016, 04:03 PM
Does this count as classical music? I remember it being popular when I was a kid:

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CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
09-03-2016, 04:52 PM
Does this count as classical music? I remember it being popular when I was a kid:

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I've told you before, boy, don't bring up Billy Ray Cyrus. Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.

Refractive Reflections
09-03-2016, 11:45 PM
80's music is now classic. The passage of time has made the 80's more than 30 years old.

If back in the 80's people considered 50's music "classic" when it was only 20 years prior, then certainly now 80's music is classic. The young kids of today have never bought a CD player in their life, let alone casette tapes or Sony walkmans.

Okay, we're talking about relative to present day society. I assumed the term "classic" would be used in reference to your lifetime since that term is subjective depending on an individual's generation with you being the OP.

So what would you consider "oldies"? What would consider music from the 40s-60s? "Ancient"? :lol:


Now enjoy these decade-old music videos to remind you of your age CyberCubed ;):
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MikeandRaph87
09-03-2016, 11:47 PM
This is what I have been listening to through my local station that carries it.
http://www.themikeharveyshow.com/

Cure
09-05-2016, 04:23 PM
I've always thought there was a difference between classic and classicAL.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
09-05-2016, 05:23 PM
Nelly Furtado didn't last long in the spotlight, did she? I liked her better than Fergie, at least.

MsMarvelDuckie
09-05-2016, 07:46 PM
I've always thought there was a difference between classic and classicAL.

Yup. ClassicAL is music from 1900's and earlier-symphonic concert pieces like Beethoven's 5th or Wagner's operas. Motzart, Bach, Handel etc....

Classic denotes anything more than 30 years old IE- "classic rock" or "classic pop". "Oldies" would be anything pre-1970.

CyberCubed
09-06-2016, 04:55 PM
Michael Jackson's "Thriller" is basically classical music nowadays.

MikeandRaph87
09-06-2016, 05:34 PM
Drop the 'al" in classical. This is classical for an example, Mozart's LaCromosa that can be heard is a few film soundtracks.
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You mean 'classic' if it was a hit or if it is just a certain amount of years of age it is 'retro'.

I seriously suggest you listen to Mike Harvey tonight. You can call in and make a request. I am curious to what you might ask Mike to play. You can make a request by calling in or by leaving a post on the Facebook page for the show.

MsMarvelDuckie
09-16-2016, 06:13 PM
Michael Jackson's "Thriller" is basically classical music nowadays.

No Cubed, Thriller would be considered retro or 80's pop, not Classical. As stated before classical music would be symphonic or operatic music from pre-1900's. Motzart, Beethoven, Bach or Wagner are examples of classical musicians. Carmen, Tocata and Fugue, Peter and the Wolf(the actual symphony, not the Disney cartoon), Swan Lake, the Nutcracker Ballet music- those are classical pieces.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
09-23-2016, 06:38 AM
No Cubed, Thriller would be considered retro or 80's pop, not Classical. As stated before classical music would be symphonic or operatic music from pre-1900's. Motzart, Beethoven, Bach or Wagner are examples of classical musicians. Carmen, Tocata and Fugue, Peter and the Wolf(the actual symphony, not the Disney cartoon), Swan Lake, the Nutcracker Ballet music- those are classical pieces.

Yes, but that will change over time.

MikeandRaph87
09-24-2016, 09:02 PM
Classical takes over the Baroque period around 1750 and last until 1900.

Cubed, you got a thing for 80s' music,right? I have a playlist that might interest you that I created some time ago. I recently logged back in and added back some songs which videos were deleted. I would like to rearrange the order,but without the shuffle option no big deal. Anyway enjoy,Cubed or anyone else for that matter.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL31578AFC48E270D2

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/vector-s-party-background-illustration-retro-audio-cassette-tapes-equalizer-black-36275452.jpg

MsMarvelDuckie
10-11-2016, 07:47 PM
Yes, but that will change over time.

Thriller might eventually become "classic pop" but certainly NOT "classical" MikeandRaph is absolutely right on the definition of that.

sdp
10-16-2016, 10:17 PM
Thriller is already "classic" pop just as 90s bands are considered "classic" rock and you hear Nirvana and even Limp Bizkit. We're in the mid teens of the 2000's but as soon as we get closer to 2020 all those 00's pop/rock/hardcore bands that can still get some play now will be seen as ancient as 80s pop/rock/metal bands sounded to me when I was a kid in 1999.

CyberCubed
12-27-2016, 01:38 AM
Here's another great classical tune, "Under the boardwalk."

Bonus: Bruce Willis is in this video singing it from 1987:

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I was just a kid when all this was happening, its amazing how much I missed.

Whatswiththeheadbands?
12-28-2016, 04:41 PM
Actual classical music:

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Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
01-20-2017, 03:16 PM
Thriller is already "classic" pop just as 90s bands are considered "classic" rock and you hear Nirvana and even Limp Bizkit. We're in the mid teens of the 2000's but as soon as we get closer to 2020 all those 00's pop/rock/hardcore bands that can still get some play now will be seen as ancient as 80s pop/rock/metal bands sounded to me when I was a kid in 1999.

1990's pop-rock is now considered Retro, as it's usually after 20 years.