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PApagreg
09-03-2016, 12:20 PM
For me its like a 55 to 45 percent she will but maybe this show can surprise me

snake
09-03-2016, 12:24 PM
Nope. I'm not getting a vibe that she's out for herself at all. If anything Karai herself might fall too far down the foot path

CyberCubed
09-03-2016, 01:17 PM
No, if anything they'll reveal they're lesbian lovers.

Ashwolf
09-03-2016, 01:27 PM
No, if anything they'll reveal they're lesbian lovers.

ooo please no!

honestly, do you view every single best friend relationship as gay shipping?

PApagreg
09-03-2016, 02:18 PM
ooo please no!

honestly, do you view every single best friend relationship as gay shipping?


You know even if that was the case it would still be better than any romantic relationship we have on this show

IndigoErth
09-03-2016, 02:47 PM
Nah. Not by her own choice at least. Personally I suspect something is going to happen that causes her to be used against Karai. Like Shini gets mind controlled and is made to hypnotize Karai and turn her bad again.

BubblyShell22
09-03-2016, 03:38 PM
No, I think she's too loyal to Karai to betray her.

Cubed, what is it with you and lesbians?

PApagreg
09-03-2016, 03:50 PM
No, I think she's too loyal to Karai to betray her.

Cubed, what is it with you and lesbians?


In Cubed's defence, lesbians are awesome

FredWolfLeonardo
09-03-2016, 05:23 PM
She could be secretly working for shredder. He raised Karai after all and maybe he was picky about who she could be childhood friends with.

I Suppose Shinigami could be a foot spy who was raised alongside Karai in her childhood in the foot clan but later on used her relationship to get close with Karai in order to obey her master Shredder's orders and bring her back through hypnosis/manipulation.

ssjup81
09-03-2016, 05:24 PM
Nah. Not by her own choice at least. Personally I suspect something is going to happen that causes her to be used against Karai. Like Shini gets mind controlled and is made to hypnotize Karai and turn her bad again.I could see this happening too. I was just about to post something like this myself. I could see Shini being forced to go against Karai as a way of protecting her or something like that. It's like Raph kissing Antrax...before seeing it, I couldn't see him willingly doing something like that. To me, that's how I'm currently viewing Shini and am actually hoping for that kind of a twist.

Powder
09-03-2016, 06:18 PM
Maybe? I could see it going either way, but I admit I was suspicious of her in City At War.

WebLurker
09-04-2016, 01:23 PM
I'm inclined to guess no. She did seem suspicious in "City at War" (and seems to be a bit catty), but we were supposed to think of her as a new villain before revealing that she and Karai are planning to reform the Foot Clan and get rid of Shredder's operations.

"Broken Foot" did suggest that she has a materialistic streak, but it seemed to be played for laughs rather than as a warning sign. (She did have a point, too. A case could've been made that the money could've been used to fund their beat Shredder project.)

Also, in those two episodes, her fights with the Foot Clan members are a little too brutal to be faked (Tiger Claw slammed her into the roof in the first one).

For what it's worth, she's shown on the hero's side of the supporting character montage in the credits sequence. There have been exceptions to this before, but she seems to be presented as an ally character. I also wonder if they would've written in the idea of Mikey having a crush on her if it was planned that she was going to be a traitor.

CyberCubed
09-04-2016, 03:28 PM
This is what fans want to see, they're already drawing fanart of it:

http://orig05.deviantart.net/e03a/f/2016/240/a/9/tmnt_yuri_shinigami___karai_by_ayamchan-daflvp3.jpg

Ashwolf
09-04-2016, 03:44 PM
just because theres some art out there of that doesnt mean that everyone wants to see it

Jephael
09-04-2016, 03:47 PM
In all honesty, I really hope Shini doesn't turn on Karai and/or the TMNT. It'd be too predictable anyway if it were to happen.

This is what fans want to see, they're already drawing fanart of it:

http://orig05.deviantart.net/e03a/f/2016/240/a/9/tmnt_yuri_shinigami___karai_by_ayamchan-daflvp3.jpg
just because theres some art out there of that doesnt mean that everyone wants to see it

Hey speak for yourself.

[Mod edit by Machias: Come on now... save this kind of image for the social groups...]

BubblyShell22
09-04-2016, 04:15 PM
Greg, I have no issue with the idea of them being lesbians if that is the case. My issue is how Cubed is obsessed with the idea of it in a very perverted way. Honestly, I just don't get why guys are fascinated with that stuff. I'm certainly not attracted by the idea of two guys kissing. I just don't care about it.

CyberCubed
09-04-2016, 05:14 PM
Greg, I have no issue with the idea of them being lesbians if that is the case. My issue is how Cubed is obsessed with the idea of it in a very perverted way. Honestly, I just don't get why guys are fascinated with that stuff. I'm certainly not attracted by the idea of two guys kissing. I just don't care about it.

Men are just hardwired to think that way. Its the chemical balance in our brains that make us attracted to the unobtainable.

WebLurker
09-04-2016, 11:33 PM
This is what fans want to see, they're already drawing fanart of it:

http://orig05.deviantart.net/e03a/f/2016/240/a/9/tmnt_yuri_shinigami___karai_by_ayamchan-daflvp3.jpg

No thanks.

snake
09-04-2016, 11:42 PM
This is what fans want to see, they're already drawing fanart of it:

http://orig05.deviantart.net/e03a/f/2016/240/a/9/tmnt_yuri_shinigami___karai_by_ayamchan-daflvp3.jpg

Cubed, where are you finding this stuff? It's not on any of the usual places

CyberCubed
09-04-2016, 11:58 PM
Cubed, where are you finding this stuff? It's not on any of the usual places

The deviantart profile is literally on the fanart.

Splinter the boss
09-05-2016, 12:23 PM
I don't think Shinigami will betray Karai. That'd only stray her from the right path, seeking revenge again and again. Plus, she's always been lied to, shini's betrayal would be overkill.

ABrown
09-06-2016, 11:13 AM
No, if anything they'll reveal they're lesbian lovers.

This is what fans want to see, they're already drawing fanart of it:

http://orig05.deviantart.net/e03a/f/2016/240/a/9/tmnt_yuri_shinigami___karai_by_ayamchan-daflvp3.jpg

I know it's terrible, but I really would like to see that.

ninja-zero
09-06-2016, 11:14 AM
I hope not. I hate to see her turn out to be a spy sent by Shredder manipulating Karai into a trap.

myconius
09-06-2016, 09:01 PM
No, if anything they'll reveal they're lesbian lovers.

yeah, i can definitely see that.

CyberCubed
09-07-2016, 06:48 PM
http://67.media.tumblr.com/d9f18226681b317d1b73253972ad5357/tumblr_oc2np05cHq1ugnym7o1_1280.jpg

myconius
09-07-2016, 08:45 PM
http://67.media.tumblr.com/d9f18226681b317d1b73253972ad5357/tumblr_oc2np05cHq1ugnym7o1_1280.jpg

that subtle exchange of glances back and forth.

as if to say without saying "yo! waddap gurrrl?"

Splinter the boss
09-08-2016, 02:30 PM
I don't know what to say to this, It's so off topic. This can't turn out like legend of kora, I was kind of surprised.

ssjup81
09-13-2016, 05:20 AM
This is what fans want to see, they're already drawing fanart of it:

http://orig05.deviantart.net/e03a/f/2016/240/a/9/tmnt_yuri_shinigami___karai_by_ayamchan-daflvp3.jpg
I'm a fan of Shini and Karai...doesn't mean I want to see stuff like this.

myconius
09-13-2016, 08:09 AM
This is what fans want to see, they're already drawing fanart of it:

http://orig05.deviantart.net/e03a/f/2016/240/a/9/tmnt_yuri_shinigami___karai_by_ayamchan-daflvp3.jpg

also it depends on WHAT fans we're talking about?

there are some coo-coo birds on DA illustrating ALL kinds of no good between the turtle brothers!!! :x

that turtle'cest stuff is just sickening!

must be something wrong with the water supply?

Ashwolf
09-13-2016, 01:13 PM
also it depends on WHAT fans we're talking about?

there are some coo-coo birds on DA illustrating ALL kinds of no good between the turtle brothers!!! :x

that turtle'cest stuff is just sickening!

must be something wrong with the water supply?

have to agree with you, its sad that tmnt is starting to sink to a show where half if not 75% of the fanart art and roughly around 65% of the fanfiction involves tcest or gay/lesbian pair-ups

Splinter the boss
09-13-2016, 01:32 PM
I hate when people do that to a show. Perhaps they don't realize not everyone is like them, and also what they're doing diminishes the value of the show.

Coola Yagami
09-13-2016, 02:50 PM
I'm sure to prove that karai isn't a villain and more of an antihero , Shinigami will eventually want to do something that doesn't agree with karai, hence they'll turn on each other.

Coola Yagami
09-13-2016, 02:56 PM
I hate when people do that to a show. Perhaps they don't realize not everyone is like them, and also what they're doing diminishes the value of the show.

It literally happens to every single show. It's not such a big deal if you just ignore it. TMNT is no different and it's not so special or sacred to escape that kind of perverted fan art. Name any show, any show at all, and there's art of it. Even Steven Universe. Even Adventure Time. Even the sisters from Frozen all up on each other. Hell, even Bugs Bunny.

From what I heard esurance even got rid of their Erin Esurance character when they found out they made porn of her. Blizzard is taking down porn hub videos because some people somehow ripped the character models right out of the game and made porn with them.

That **** is everywhere. It's nothing new. And tmnt isn't an exception. A Day in May. Just ignore it and don't let it affect your love for the show.

Ashwolf
09-13-2016, 02:59 PM
It literally happens to every single show. It's not such a big deal if you just ignore it. TMNT is no different and it's not so special or sacred to escape that kind of perverted fan art. Name any show, any show at all, and there's art of it. Even Steven Universe. Even Adventure Time. Even the sisters from Frozen all up on each other. Hell, even Bugs Bunny.

From what I heard esurance even got rid of their Erin Esurance character when they found out they made porn of her. Blizzard is taking down porn hub videos because some people somehow ripped the character models right out of the game and made porn with them.

That **** is everywhere. It's nothing new. And tmnt isn't an exception. A Day in May. Just ignore it and don't let it affect your love for the show.

its still gross though

Powder
09-13-2016, 03:31 PM
have to agree with you, its sad that tmnt is starting to sink to a show where half if not 75% of the fanart art and roughly around 65% of the fanfiction involves tcest or gay/lesbian pair-ups

Starting? Unfortunately, this sort of degeneracy has been around for ages. It has gotten worse, though.

myconius
09-13-2016, 03:31 PM
have to agree with you, its sad that tmnt is starting to sink to a show where half if not 75% of the fanart art and roughly around 65% of the fanfiction involves tcest or gay/lesbian pair-ups

what gets me is they draw brother on brother!!!

incest is NOT best!!!!!!!!!! :x

Coola Yagami
09-13-2016, 04:20 PM
what gets me is they draw brother on brother!!!

incest is NOT best!!!!!!!!!! :x

I agree. I don't like it either. But the shows main characters are 4 brothers.... so who else did they have to work with. If April's sister wasn't such a minor forgettable character they'd probably draw april/Robyn stuff.

myconius
09-13-2016, 04:35 PM
I agree. I don't like it either. But the shows main characters are 4 brothers.... so who else did they have to work with. If April's sister wasn't such a minor forgettable character they'd probably draw april/Robyn stuff.

yeah, it's just plain nasty!

i'm guessing the people that draw this stuff don't get out much?

either that or they live near a toxic waste site?

PApagreg
09-13-2016, 04:53 PM
yeah, it's just plain nasty!

i'm guessing the people that draw this stuff don't get out much?

either that or they live near a toxic waste site?

Actually drawing smut nowadays is a good way to get money not only is the business thriving but actual great artist make fanatastic and detailed pictures.

As for incest don't search Loud House without the safe filter

myconius
09-13-2016, 05:34 PM
Actually drawing smut nowadays is a good way to get money not only is the business thriving but actual great artist make fanatastic and detailed pictures.

As for incest don't search Loud House without the safe filter

i've actually never heard of Loud House. i'm guessing it's as bad (or worse) than some of the stuff on deviantart?

some of the people drawing the really REALLY depraved art are completely uninspired.
like they're doing it just to be shocking.

MsMarvelDuckie
09-13-2016, 05:56 PM
Oh boy here we go. Somehow it's turned into an anti-furry/scaly rally. Speaking as someone who has written a(one and ONLY one) t-cest (implied) tale- purely for the fun and challenge of it- I can say that most of the folks who are so heavily against it have never actually read any of them. Some are actually really good, and MOST treat both the characters/franchise and the subject with the utmost respect. Most are also in the vein of "forbidden/desperate love" type stories.

snake
09-13-2016, 06:03 PM
It still makes me uncomfortable af

TMNT is the one thing that shouldn't be sexualized (outside of April lol)

EDIT- and Irma. Always Irma

MsMarvelDuckie
09-13-2016, 06:15 PM
Understandable. I was the same way the first time I ran into one. Fortunately it was by a very good fic-writer and the story itself really drew me in. Read a few more by the same writer and found it wasn't nearly as unpalatable as I'd thought. It is an aquired taste I'll admit, (to each their iwn of course) but some people get far too squeamish anytime it gets mentioned.

TheSkeletonMan939
09-13-2016, 06:16 PM
TMNT is the one thing that shouldn't be sexualized (outside of April lol)

What about... Irma?

snake
09-13-2016, 06:19 PM
What about... Irma?

Oh hell yeah. Irma was a 10/10

myconius
09-13-2016, 06:19 PM
imagine if back when Eastman and Laird made the first TMNT comic if instead of the Turtles & Shredder having a battle to the death, if they just sexed each other up?

wonder if it still would have become the phenomenon that it did? :lol:

TheSkeletonMan939
09-13-2016, 06:21 PM
Has anyone else here read that TMNT sex comic done by the actual artists for a TMNT series at the time?
It might have been for the Archie series but I don't remember.

myconius
09-13-2016, 06:23 PM
Has anyone else here read that TMNT sex comic done by the actual artists for a TMNT series at the time?
It might have been for the Archie series but I don't remember.

wait! that's a real thing???

TheSkeletonMan939
09-13-2016, 06:30 PM
Oh yeah. I've read it and wish I hadn't. You can't unsee it. If I recall it had Splinter-April action.

myconius
09-13-2016, 06:34 PM
Oh yeah. I've read it and wish I hadn't. You can't unsee it. If I recall it had Splinter-April action.

hahahaha!!! ok i think i've inquired more than enough! more than i should have!! :lol:

PApagreg
09-13-2016, 06:40 PM
hahahaha!!! ok i think i've inquired more than enough! more than i should have!! :lol:
Dude cartoonist in general are a bunch of perverts, the creator of Steven Universe once drew Ed Edd Eddy yaoi and the creator of Loud House drew a few comic strips about a catboy having the hots for his mom.

MsMarvelDuckie
09-13-2016, 06:40 PM
You mean "The Birds and the Bees and the Turtles" I assume? I've read some of it and OMG!!! So funny but SOOO wrong.....

TheSkeletonMan939
09-13-2016, 06:44 PM
Dude cartoonist in general are a bunch of perverts, the creator of Steven Universe once drew Ed Edd Eddy yaoi and the creator of Loud House drew a few comic strips about a catboy having the hots for his mom.

Indeed. Bruce Timm of B:TAS fame drew a whole book of naked chicks in his trademark art style (the book was called "Naughty and Nice" or something) and sold a limited print of it (like 1000 copies). Some of them bear VERY strong resemblance to certain DC characters...

You mean "The Birds and the Bees and the Turtles" I assume? I've read some of it and OMG!!! So funny but SOOO wrong.....

That was the title! Lol

MsMarvelDuckie
09-13-2016, 06:50 PM
That's nothing new. Both the original creators of Superman and the creator of Popeye drew nude girls and other "porn art" on the side. IIRC the creators of Supes porn art was collected into a book a few years ago.

TheSkeletonMan939
09-13-2016, 06:53 PM
If anyone wants to take a look at a CRACKED article (from when the site was still good), this one (http://www.cracked.com/article_19005_6-famous-artists-you-didnt-know-were-perverts.html) is a pretty enlightening look at the fantasies of famous artists! I think, as Duckie mentioned, there's a bit in there between Lex Luthor and Lois Lane.

myconius
09-13-2016, 06:56 PM
You mean "The Birds and the Bees and the Turtles" I assume? I've read some of it and OMG!!! So funny but SOOO wrong.....

uh oh! now i know the name of it!! now i'm going to have to look for it!! :lol:

TheSkeletonMan939
09-13-2016, 07:12 PM
Don't say we didn't warn you... :tlol:

myconius
09-13-2016, 07:30 PM
Don't say we didn't warn you... :tlol:

searched a few stores online and came up with nothing.

i'm sure they did me a favor? :lol:

TheSkeletonMan939
09-13-2016, 07:34 PM
Oh dear... anyone who wants a link PM me. I won't tell.

myconius
09-13-2016, 07:47 PM
pm me that link.

it's ok. i'll wear my depraved shame with pride. :lol:

myconius
09-13-2016, 07:55 PM
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! i laughed so hard i think i ruptured something??? :lol:

MsMarvelDuckie
09-13-2016, 08:36 PM
searched a few stores online and came up with nothing.

i'm sure they did me a favor? :lol:

The reason you didn't find it for sale online is that only fifty copies were printed- and they were all given to the comic staff when the Archie TMNT comic ended. Very few have made it into the public and most of those were sold to collectors. It was made as a joke by and for the staff.

Also, TSM939 could you pm me the link too? I never got to read the whole thing, and the PDF I have does not work. I've only seen a few sample pages but they intrigued me.

myconius
09-13-2016, 08:45 PM
The reason you didn't find it for sale online is that only fifty copies were printed- and they were all given to the comic staff when the Archie TMNT comic ended. Very few have made it into the public and most of those were sold to collectors. It was made as a joke by and for the staff.

Also, TSM939 could you pm me the link too? I never got to read the whole thing, and the PDF I have does not work. I've only seen a few sample pages but they intrigued me.

AH! that would explain it.

thanks :D

victory_angel
09-13-2016, 11:22 PM
PM me the link too.

CyberCubed
09-15-2016, 01:26 AM
Shinigami is getting some decent art from the deviantart crowd:

http://orig10.deviantart.net/bcff/f/2016/217/2/2/tmnt_shinigami_by_ayamchan-dacp9xz.jpg

myconius
09-15-2016, 05:33 AM
now i'm wondering how soon it'll be before we see Fan-art of Shinigami shipped with Ninjara?

ABrown
09-15-2016, 09:14 AM
Shinigami is getting some decent art from the deviantart crowd:

http://orig10.deviantart.net/bcff/f/2016/217/2/2/tmnt_shinigami_by_ayamchan-dacp9xz.jpg

I Love it.

Splinter the boss
09-15-2016, 01:23 PM
Shinigami is getting some decent art from the deviantart crowd:

http://orig10.deviantart.net/bcff/f/2016/217/2/2/tmnt_shinigami_by_ayamchan-dacp9xz.jpg

It looks good, I admit. I only wish it was restricted to this. But, you'll find all types of perverted art on the internet.

snake
09-15-2016, 01:29 PM
Shinigami is getting some decent art from the deviantart crowd:

http://orig10.deviantart.net/bcff/f/2016/217/2/2/tmnt_shinigami_by_ayamchan-dacp9xz.jpg

tttTHICCCCCC

PApagreg
09-15-2016, 05:18 PM
tttTHICCCCCC

More curvy than thick also at this rate Shinigami is going to beat Xever in TMNT 2012 oc with the most fanart

now i'm wondering how soon it'll be before we see Fan-art of Shinigami shipped with Ninjara?
Ninjara no, Alopex most likely