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Autbot_Benz
09-06-2016, 02:21 PM
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Saw this on youtube it shows some still photos of scenes cut from the movie.

Sabacooza
09-06-2016, 02:56 PM
Saw this on youtube it shows some still photos of scenes cut from the movie.Nice find. It makes me sad there isn't a deluxe edition director's cut with all the bells and whistles yet. Could have something to do with all the lawsuits going on now but I wonder what the excuse was before.

Actually if you go by the movie script there was a lot more stuff that didn't make it into the film. Whether it was filmed or not, I have no idea.

Autbot_Benz
09-06-2016, 02:59 PM
Nice find. It makes me sad there isn't a deluxe edition director's cut with all the bells and whistles yet. Could have something to do with all the lawsuits going on now but I wonder what the excuse was before.

Actually if you go by the movie script there was a lot more stuff that didn't make it into the film. Whether it was filmed or not, I have no idea.

ya i wanna see that extra Raph Casey fight

Sabacooza
09-06-2016, 03:06 PM
ya i wanna see that extra Raph Casey fightAgreed. I'd like to see the extended sparring scene on the farm where Leo first trys out the blind folded trick and then teaches it to the rest.

Autbot_Benz
09-06-2016, 03:11 PM
Agreed. I'd like to see the extended sparring scene on the farm where Leo first trys out the blind folded trick and then teaches it to the rest.

makes me wish Shout Factory could get the rights to this movie. since they seem do to a great job with collectors editions

Sabacooza
09-06-2016, 03:24 PM
makes me wish Shout Factory could get the rights to this movie. since they seem do to a great job with collectors editionsThat would be nice. I also think going by the script when April was narrating about the TMNT losing their first battle, they had a scene where Casey was helping Raph walk around the house. Donnie I believe was working on something in the barn, got upset and threw his wrench and Mikey was punching holes in the wall. Man, just thinking about all the stuff they have locked away, film degrading never to be seen again is depressing.

Autbot_Benz
09-06-2016, 03:26 PM
That would be nice. I also think going by the script when April was narrating about the TMNT losing their first battle, they had a scene where Casey was helping Raph walk around the house. Donnie I believe was working on something in the barn, got upset and threw his wrench and Mikey was punching holes in the wall. Man, just thinking about all the stuff they have locked away, film degrading never to be seen again is depressing.

ya I mean so many other movies have gotten re releases with new scenes why can't this one.

Sabacooza
09-06-2016, 03:53 PM
ya I mean so many other movies have gotten re releases with new scenes why can't this one.
Like I said, I do think the lawsuits now are preventing anything from being released but I'm curious why we only got a ****** release before when they could've given us all this stuff a long time ago when it was rereleased on Blu-ray or even before.

Longview01
09-06-2016, 05:14 PM
Thank god they cut that Comic book ending

pferreira
09-08-2016, 09:35 AM
Like I said, I do think the lawsuits now are preventing anything from being released but I'm curious why we only got a ****** release before when they could've given us all this stuff a long time ago when it was rereleased on Blu-ray or even before.What lawsuits are currently happening right now?

Sabacooza
09-10-2016, 08:14 AM
What lawsuits are currently happening right now?A huge chunk of Royalties were due to Barron and some of the crew.

pferreira
09-15-2016, 09:42 AM
A huge chunk of Royalties were due to Barron and some of the crew.Yikes, hope that's sorted out.

Masterpiece
10-13-2016, 11:21 PM
A huge chunk of Royalties were due to Barron and some of the crew.

According to Josh Pais (who played Raph in the movie) Barron was fired before the end of production because executives wanted him to tone down the movie.

I feel really sorry for Mr Barron. I view this movie as his best work, and a cinematic masterpiece.

One day, I want to see this film uncut.

But first the f**king executives have to piss off.

Zany Orange Dude
10-18-2016, 09:29 PM
That ending was so cheesy, but I absolutely love it!

D Piddy 1982
11-12-2016, 12:39 PM
Thanks for the share, somehow had never seen this before.

This then led me to this video, more of the same. Probably shared before but I'm sure there will be a few who, like me, haven't seen it before now.

http://youtu.be/Udib1rIYR1M

sgtfbomb
11-18-2016, 01:07 PM
According to Josh Pais (who played Raph in the movie) Barron was fired before the end of production because executives wanted him to tone down the movie.

I feel really sorry for Mr Barron. I view this movie as his best work, and a cinematic masterpiece.

I can see why they wanted it toned down a bit. At the time, there was vocal group of, uh, let's just say "well-meaning" parents who were lashing out at Hollywood for films like Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (the sequel to a film where people's faces melt off), Gremlins (for allegedly being marketed to kids -- watch the trailer, it wasn't), Saturday morning cartoons (for being too "violent"), and eventually Batman Returns (the dark sequel to a dark film), Power Rangers (see Saturday morning cartoons) and Jurassic Park (see Gremlins). I believe even the TMNT cartoon received some of that noise.

To be honest, they probably were trying to avoid those loud, obnoxious people. Unfortunately, it had a cost. Not just for this film, but films in general. History was re-written to perceive the PG rating as the "kid friendly" rating, when it was just a general, "yea a kid might handle this, but maybe you should think about it first" rating. Now even PG-13 films are tamer than most PG films used to be.

Personally, being in that age group that parents were trying to "protect" -- yeah, we were watching Die Hard and Friday the 13th movies and the alleged stories of kids crying in the theater during Batman Returns, pushed by people like Kevin Smith (who is fun to listen to, but a lot of times doesn't really know what he is talking about when it comes to other people's films) are mostly fabrications and false memories.

One day, I want to see this film uncut.


It wouldn't take much either. For example, the Shenso scene was tamed down through audio. From what I understand, the scene is how it was shot. Just on the shot of Danny, they added coughs and "you're going to be okay." Personally, other than that audio, I think the scene is perfect editorially.

I wouldn't mind the extended walk to the van at the beginning (with the shells), Leo's fight down into the basement, the Mikey scenes from the farm, as well as Shredder fighting Sam Rockwell's goons. The extended ending, though, doesn't really work for me.

pferreira
11-24-2016, 09:47 AM
The extended ending, though, doesn't really work for me.How about using it as a post credits ending?

sgtfbomb
11-27-2016, 06:29 PM
How about using it as a post credits ending?

Maybe. But even then, it just feels tacked on. I think it is better off where it is, on the cutting room floor. However, I would gladly accept it as a bonus feature. It's a shame the domestic DVD and Blu Ray releases are bare bones.

This video also excludes a lot of stuff. The alternate intro, moving down a bursting sewer lid, down through the sewer, and up to the front door of their lair. The bursting sewer lid is shown in the trailer. The extended walk to the van, where April walks past a pier, where shells pop out of the water, seen in the trailer. The alternate/extended mugging. Shredder's alternate speech, part of which is heard in the trailer. The extra tidbits from the apartment fight, some of which was included in the UK version. Leo fighting a foot soldier down to the basement, photos of which I believe do exist (weren't they on the now defunct TMNTMovie Site?).

There's also Casey's original introduction, where he is flipping through the television, unhappy about the violent crimes in the news, which apparently inspires him to become a vigilante. But I don't think there are any stills from that.

Leonardo87
11-27-2016, 06:35 PM
Yeah we kept getting promises of a proper special edition for years and it never happened. The only way we could view these if Issac and his team has clearance to release them as special features on the Turtle Doc II.

sgtfbomb
11-27-2016, 07:01 PM
Yeah we kept getting promises of a proper special edition for years and it never happened. The only way we could view these if Issac and his team has clearance to release them as special features on the Turtle Doc II.

That'd be awesome. It goes beyond wishful thinking. But one could wish.

Sadly, a special edition feels like wishful thinking as well. The time to do it was in that DVD period during the early 2000s when a lot of films were getting the special edition treatment. The actual home video divisions were doing that at the time, but now they are no longer as quick to do that as they are now. Now, you'd have to hope for Shout Factory, Criterion, or Arrow to get a hold of your favorite movies to get new special features and I guarantee, a lot of films wouldn't have so many readily available special features if it weren't for that era.

Part of me hopes for a miracle that Shout gets at least the first film. However, they currently have no ties with Warner Bros., which is a shame because there are some New Line titles I wish they'd get.

pferreira
12-01-2016, 09:29 AM
The extra tidbits from the apartment fight, some of which was included in the UK version. Really? So much was cut from the original cinema release in the UK I'm surprised the UK got extra bits.

sgtfbomb
12-01-2016, 10:53 AM
Really? So much was cut from the original cinema release in the UK I'm surprised the UK got extra bits.

They included them to cover the shots they cut, mostly Mikey's nunchucks. The UK had areal problem with nunchucks for some reason.

The apartment fight, in the form the UK distributors initially released, plays like an early work print cut. It is sloppy. You can see all the warts. The pacing is sluggish. Shots go on for too long. One of the foot soldiers, the one who signals them for the axes, has a moment of cartoony anger. The only moment that is interesting is a little tidbit where April pulls the carpet from beneath a foot soldier.

TMNT Movie, a site which no longer exists, put it up on their You Tube channel. It may still be up.

Honestly, watching the two versions of that same scene side by side just goes to show the importance of good editing. The film's real editor, Sally Menke, went on to work with Quentin Tarantino until she passed away. She was a fantastic editor.

The Turtle Terminator
12-22-2016, 03:53 PM
TMNT Movie, a site which no longer exists, put it up on their You Tube channel. It may still be up.

Honestly, watching the two versions of that same scene side by side just goes tot he show the importance of good editing. The film's real editor, Sally Menke, went on to work with Quentin Tarantino until she passed away. She was a fantastic editor.

https://youtu.be/5pP18cBFaTYhttps://youtu.be/5pP18cBFaTY

Video still exits on their YouTube page. Gotta admit how weird watching this (I've only seen the American version of the film). There is no cohesion to these shots and as opposed to being on extensively long scene it feels more like 4 separate fights mashed together into one big mess. Definetly seems like a work in progress than the finished film.

sgtfbomb
12-24-2016, 09:19 PM
That version of the scene plays like an assembly cut. Nunchucks were a "no-no" in Britain at some point. Maybe they still are. I dunno.

Weird things happen sometimes when films are localized. We (the US) used to butcher foreign film with lazy dubbing, choppy insertions of American actors, swapping of music, etc.

Allegedly, one country edited Batman '89's ending to jump cut from Batman kicking the Joker over a ledge to the Joker falling, losing the final battle on the ledge.

DarkFell
12-25-2016, 04:25 PM
https://youtu.be/5pP18cBFaTYhttps://youtu.be/5pP18cBFaTY
Behold your clip in all of its glory. :)
5pP18cBFaTY
Ooooh deleted scenes. Nice.

pferreira
12-30-2016, 10:13 AM
Behold your clip in all of its glory. :)Ooooh deleted scenes. Nice.This should be on the DVD along with the actual deleted scenes.

MathUser
01-23-2017, 09:46 AM
Why do you guys think they laughed when Micheal Angelo fell? He could have fell to his death.