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AlZarkovski
11-05-2016, 02:26 PM
Preview here (http://www.cbr.com/batmantmnt-adventures-1-exclusive-preview/).

CyberCubed
11-05-2016, 03:39 PM
I'm quite excited for this. It'll be interesting to see how different it is than the IDW/DC comic version of the crossover.

turtlefanforever
11-06-2016, 10:37 AM
Looks fun. Fans of the series should be psyched, I'm sure it'll be some really great issues for them.

Sabacooza
11-06-2016, 11:39 AM
The art actually looks pretty decent.

neatoman
11-09-2016, 10:10 AM
Ok, so basically the story here is that the Bat-Villains are fleeing through a Kraang portal to escape Batman, essentially the reverse of the other crossover. It's fine so far, which is what I felt about other one. Though since this is a crossover between a version of Batman we haven't seen much from in the last 10 years, and a version of TMNT that is on it's last legs, I hope it doesn't play it as safe as the other crossover.

And there's also a Teen Titans GO reference, a really blatant one.

ChosenOne
11-09-2016, 10:33 AM
Enjoyed this much more than I thought I would, especially having recently gotten into the Nick cartoon.

That Clayface fight was awesome! I hope there's more of that sort of stuff yet to come! :D

CyberCubed
11-09-2016, 01:33 PM
Clayface fight was fun as well as Mikey's name for him.

I'm glad in this comic Joker looks to be the main villain teaming up with Shredder as opposed to Ra's Al Gul in the previous, its a nice change of pace since Joker only had a very small role in the other one.

I hope they don't waste too much time on introductions and first meetings as that would be retreading the same ground as the previous crossover, so I hope the Turtles and Batman get along fast.

Optimus Primer
11-09-2016, 07:51 PM
Haven't read it yet, but the art looks great! :tgrin:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
11-09-2016, 08:17 PM
Mudbutt. :tlol:

Sassy Alfred is sassy. :tgrin:

Ninjinister
11-10-2016, 03:24 PM
A'ight so I thought I knew my Batman auxiliary cast but apparently I don't. Who is that who is walking next to Aaron outside of Hagen's cell? Looks like her label reads "Patrick, B." but I have no recollection of who that could be.

ToTheNines
11-10-2016, 04:45 PM
Wow, can't believe this happened! Gonna be a special mini.

I'd give a short review, but I'm still speechless.

DrSpengler
11-10-2016, 06:23 PM
Here's my full summary and review of Batman/TMNT Adventures #1 at TMNT Entity. (http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2016/11/batmantmnt-adventures-1.html)

I'll confess that there's a somewhat diminished sense of excitement, since this is our second Batman miniseries, but I'm enjoying it so far. I'm more familiar with The Animated Series Batman than New 52 Batman, so this incarnation speaks to me a bit better.

Enjoyed the art from Sommariva and really liked Ito's colors. A bit disappointed that we're hitting similar territory from the first crossover (the Turtles bump into a second string Bat rogue in the sewers and beat them handily), but hopefully things diverge in the following issues.

oldmanwinters
11-10-2016, 07:02 PM
A bit disappointed that we're hitting similar territory from the first crossover (the Turtles bump into a second string Bat rogue in the sewers and beat them handily), but hopefully things diverge in the following issues.

Hey, now, Clayface was no 2nd-stringer in BTAS! He was basically the most terrifying type of villain because he could go anywhere and just about do anything, quite a rarity for a rogue in that show largely grounded in reality. He got rare appearances since he was so powerful. Eventually, of course, Batman figured out how to make him his personal footstool.

CyberCubed
11-10-2016, 07:05 PM
From what I remember, Clayface's last canon appearance in the DCAU was in a Justice League Season 2 episode. Wasn't it the one where they fought in the huge football stadium? I think he was shot into the air with fireworks from what I remember.

ToTheNines
11-11-2016, 08:12 AM
Here's my full summary and review of Batman/TMNT Adventures #1 at TMNT Entity. (http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2016/11/batmantmnt-adventures-1.html)

I'll confess that there's a somewhat diminished sense of excitement, since this is our second Batman miniseries, but I'm enjoying it so far. I'm more familiar with The Animated Series Batman than New 52 Batman, so this incarnation speaks to me a bit better.

Enjoyed the art from Sommariva and really liked Ito's colors. A bit disappointed that we're hitting similar territory from the first crossover (the Turtles bump into a second string Bat rogue in the sewers and beat them handily), but hopefully things diverge in the following issues.

As for placement, according to this interview, the Batman stuff takes place after the original run but before the TNBA revamp (I would assume before Sub-Zero).

The turtles stuff takes place during season 3. After Battle for New York, but before Dinosaur in the Sewers.

Link: http://www.cbr.com/batmantmnt-adventures-team-call-their-crossover-a-mini-movie-for-all-ages/

MikeandRaph87
11-11-2016, 08:33 AM
It does Spengler because we get the definitive Robin and Batgirl instead of Damien and the others.I get the retread of Clayface opposed to Killer Croc and the dimensional portal. Penguin was the featured foe that met with The Shredder along with Ra's. This time Joker has a prominent role. We might get Poison Ivy and Mad Hatter judging by the cover to #2.I knew it from the start. Its weird reading the Nick version. I actually like Batman better than TMNT in this regard. Never thought I would think that. Avoiding the last season of B:TAS makes it my Batman while the Nick one's are not my Ninja Turtles. From the Batman viewpoint I freaking love it!

Kingoji
11-11-2016, 08:50 AM
Enjoyed it, like the art, but one pretty big complaint is the last couple pages. Joker and Harley, especially in the Timm/Dini-verse, are NOT that formidable. They can just about intimidate regular mobsters, but even then not always, so the idea that they can mop up ninjas? nuh-uh.

Not a deal breaker though, and I'll be checking out the rest. That was just something that pulled me out of it rather than worked as a cliffhanger.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
11-11-2016, 08:55 AM
I just kinda feel "eh." I mean, I liked it but I sure didn't love it.

Ugh. Freaking Nick Turtles. :tlol:

MikeandRaph87
11-11-2016, 09:13 AM
I just kinda
Ugh. Freaking Nick Turtles. :tlol:

Its like your in my head. Speaking of in my head, my default Raphael voice is Rob Paulsen which messes it up when I reading it and Raphael is supposed to coming out of Donatello and Barry Gordon voices Donatello for me. :P

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
11-11-2016, 09:54 AM
Its like your in my head. Speaking of in my head, my default Raphael voice is Rob Paulsen which messes it up when I reading it and Raphael is supposed to coming out of Donatello and Barry Gordon voices Donatello for me. :P

The only thing that would make this miniseries better Batman-wise is if Robin was Jason Todd, not Dick Grayson!!!!

I kid, I kid. :trazz:

Still, though... quite curious to see how Dick and Babs play into this. Following his Arkham rogues through a portal into an unknown battlefield seems like something Batman wouldn't risk bringing them along for.

CyberCubed
11-11-2016, 11:39 AM
Ugh. Freaking Nick Turtles. :tlol:

Nick Turtles were excellent in this, I can't wait to see them interact with a "lighter" Batman, and then Dick and Babs.

Although I do think the 2k3 Turtles obviously fit the B:TAS universe much more, obviously the chances of seeing them do that crossover is slim to none.

ToTheNines
11-11-2016, 01:10 PM
4kids would fit better with The Batman. Closer is tone, and both were animated by Dong Woo.

neatoman
11-11-2016, 01:26 PM
4kids would fit better with The Batman. Closer is tone, and both were animated by Dong Woo.

By that logic, shouldn't the Nick Turtles crossover with Brave and the Bold or Beware?

PApagreg
11-11-2016, 01:31 PM
By that logic, shouldn't the Nick Turtles crossover with Brave and the Bold or Beware?

Personally I think Brave and the bold would be a better crossover for Nick TMNT

ToTheNines
11-11-2016, 01:33 PM
By that logic, shouldn't the Nick Turtles crossover with Brave and the Bold or Beware?

I would agree with that, especially if it were actually animated.

But TAS makes enough sense. The Nick show isn't all Mirage, all the time; but when it wants to I think it captures the style and heart of the comics much more effectively than 4kids ever did.

Despite their heavy borrowing of specific plots.

CyberCubed
11-11-2016, 02:19 PM
Makes me wonder if we're going to get an 80's TMNT and Adam West Batman crossover next. Given how heavily DC is promoting 60's Batman with a new comic series and DVD movies, it could be possible.

TMNachoT
11-11-2016, 05:28 PM
Do you imagine if they make a crossover with bay turtles and joel schumacher´s Batman!! :o:teek:

ToTheNines
11-11-2016, 05:49 PM
Do you imagine if they make a crossover with bay turtles and joel schumacher´s Batman!! :o:teek:

Nah, Bayturtles would cross over with Affleck's Snyderman. :lol:

TMNT 90/SotO with Batman 89/Returns. TMNT III with Kilmer's Bats. Next Mutation with Clooney.

MikeandRaph87
11-11-2016, 08:02 PM
Makes me wonder if we're going to get an 80's TMNT and Adam West Batman crossover next. Given how heavily DC is promoting 60's Batman with a new comic series and DVD movies, it could be possible.

Batman '66 was cancelled after 30 issues due to a change in company direction with the Digital First line.

Batman'66 would not mesh with TMNTA imho. Maybe Nick or NM. I believe this issue oroves either the '03 cartoon or TMNTA would work with B:TAS and yes the first 3 seasons.

myconius
11-11-2016, 09:00 PM
The art actually looks pretty decent.

yeah! i absolutely loved the art! :)

he has a great eye for composition and visual story-telling!

Sabacooza
11-11-2016, 09:42 PM
yeah! i absolutely loved the art! :)

he has a great eye for composition and visual story-telling!I know the sales numbers haven't been made available yet so there's no telling how well it will do but judging by the success of the previous crossover, I'm sure it will do well. That being said, I wonder if Amazing Adventures would've fared better if the art and coloring was more nicely done like this series.

myconius
11-11-2016, 10:14 PM
I know the sales numbers haven't been made available yet so there's no telling how well it will do but judging by the success of the previous crossover, I'm sure it will do well. That being said, I wonder if Amazing Adventures would've fared better if the art and coloring was more nicely done like this series.

i really hope this one does well, just on art merits alone! :)
first thing as i opened up the issue, i was like W@@W!!!
even if we just get the occasional mini-series or one-shot drawn by Jon Sommariva i'd be happy. :D

CyberCubed
11-12-2016, 01:43 AM
That being said, I wonder if Amazing Adventures would've fared better if the art and coloring was more nicely done like this series.

Well the Nick comic as a whole did last 39 issues (24 Animated adventures comics, then 14 Amazing Adventures, plus that one basketball guest star issue), so we are now getting an over 40 issue run with this mini combined altogether.

Over 40 issues for a Nick TMNT comic series isn't bad at all, hell it lasted almost as long as Volume 1 did and outlasted the Image comics and Volume 4.

Sabacooza
11-12-2016, 09:36 AM
Well the Nick comic as a whole did last 39 issues (24 Animated adventures comics, then 14 Amazing Adventures, plus that one basketball guest star issue), so we are now getting an over 40 issue run with this mini combined altogether.

Over 40 issues for a Nick TMNT comic series isn't bad at all, hell it lasted almost as long as Volume 1 did and outlasted the Image comics and Volume 4.I guess that's a pretty decent run. I meant maybe the sales numbers would be better if the book looked nicer. I know great art doesn't necessarily make a great book but the art is the most noticeable thing at first glance.

oldmanwinters
02-23-2017, 07:25 AM
I picked up the Director's Cut of the first issue this week. It's a very well done 48-page book for the surprisingly reasonable price of $4.99. It's nice to see Sommariva's pencils and how how he was so intentional doing his layouts with black shadows in mind.

The storyteller notes are also very informative, as they make all the homages, easter eggs, and unused ideas explicit.

Manning's 3-page personal note at the end is also a great testament to his longtime fandom of both franchises. I appreciate it when folks who grew up as fans get to work on the official stuff.
(Also, see his blog post (http://matthewkmanning.blogspot.com/2017/02/batmantmnt-adventures-directors-cut.html).)

I recommend picking it up if you like this series enough to see more behind-the-scenes material.

myconius
02-23-2017, 09:13 AM
I picked up the Director's Cut of the first issue this week. It's a very well done 48-page book for the surprisingly reasonable price of $4.99. It's nice to see Sommariva's pencils and how how he was so intentional doing his layouts with black shadows in mind.

The storyteller notes are also very informative, as they make all the homages, easter eggs, and unused ideas explicit.

Manning's 3-page personal note at the end is also a great testament to his longtime fandom of both franchises. I appreciate it when folks who grew up as fans get to work on the official stuff.
(Also, see his blog post (http://matthewkmanning.blogspot.com/2017/02/batmantmnt-adventures-directors-cut.html).)

I recommend picking it up if you like this series enough to see more behind-the-scenes material.

that's pretty cool!
i didn't even know they were putting out a director's cut of this.

oldmanwinters
02-23-2017, 10:05 AM
that's pretty cool!
i didn't even know they were putting out a director's cut of this.

Seeing it on the shelf surprised me too. I hadn't paid it much attention in the solicitations. And I'm glad it's a full dollar cheaper than the #1 Director's Cut of the previous Batman/TMNT crossover.

myconius
02-23-2017, 10:30 AM
Seeing it on the shelf surprised me too. I hadn't paid it much attention in the solicitations. And I'm glad it's a full dollar cheaper than the #1 Director's Cut of the previous Batman/TMNT crossover.

thanks for pointing this out.
i'll have to see about having my LCS order this for me. :)