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AlZarkovski
01-12-2017, 05:00 AM
Anthony Petrie (official art-director of Nickelodeon) posted these images. One can say with confidence that this is first look on new "Dark Shredder" from new TV-Show!:o

https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/fs/59f4b040509683.5782888f6da85.png
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/fs/901a1840509683.5782888f6e507.png
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/fs/6bb0d740509683.5782888f6f05b.png
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/fs/a3b63a40509683.581a9c15f22ac.png
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/cf828740509683.586a77ff51b8e.png

Also he posted a lot of pictures of Shredder OT. Maybe it means that soon we will see him (and not only in 5 season).

https://www.behance.net/gallery/40509683/Shredder-Style-Guide-FW17

Candy Kappa
01-12-2017, 05:10 AM
Looks like "badassified" art of the Manga Shredder.

It looks okay, not really a fan of it.

Vicky82
01-12-2017, 05:16 AM
Wow he looks a bit like IDW Shredder :o

Maybe we going to have a show based on IDW.

neatoman
01-12-2017, 05:38 AM
So I guess that this (if it's indeed artwork from a new show) confirms that the current cartoon will be replaced pretty much as soon as it ends? Can't really say I'm shocked, I've said before that I've seen this sort of thing happen over and over again, so I guess it's going to hit late 2017 or early 2018? Eh, it's going to be nice to get something fresh.

On the subject of the design itself, looks nice and detailed though I never liked the idea of putting a mouth/nose on the mask. I know that was an actual thing on samurai masks, but it looks so goofy.

Also, I couldn't help but to notice this:
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/ed8f8c40509683.578287faa4195.png

That's the 2003 Foot Clan symbol, lumped in with the Fred Wolf Shredder's icons... Odd...

Ashwolf
01-12-2017, 10:17 AM
Anthony Petrie (official art-director of Nickelodeon) posted these images. One can say with confidence that this is first look on new "Dark Shredder" from new TV-Show!:o

https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/fs/59f4b040509683.5782888f6da85.png
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/fs/901a1840509683.5782888f6e507.png
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/fs/6bb0d740509683.5782888f6f05b.png
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/fs/a3b63a40509683.581a9c15f22ac.png
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/cf828740509683.586a77ff51b8e.png

Also he posted a lot of pictures of Shredder OT. Maybe it means that soon we will see him (and not only in 5 season).

https://www.behance.net/gallery/40509683/Shredder-Style-Guide-FW17

if it was gonna be a new show, then why name it dark shredder like all the other times a new show has started..... makes me think itll turn out being a new form of shredder in the current show like how there were multiple forms of shredder in the 03 show

So I guess that this (if it's indeed artwork from a new show) confirms that the current cartoon will be replaced pretty much as soon as it ends? Can't really say I'm shocked, I've said before that I've seen this sort of thing happen over and over again, so I guess it's going to hit late 2017 or early 2018? Eh, it's going to be nice to get something fresh.

On the subject of the design itself, looks nice and detailed though I never liked the idea of putting a mouth/nose on the mask. I know that was an actual thing on samurai masks, but it looks so goofy.

Also, I couldn't help but to notice this:
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/ed8f8c40509683.578287faa4195.png

That's the 2003 Foot Clan symbol, lumped in with the Fred Wolf Shredder's icons... Odd...

hope this means that nick is finally acknowledging the 03 version (since they havent put out updated dvd sets of it) and not trying to make it forgotten

Optimus Primer
01-12-2017, 10:37 AM
I don't think this is for a new show. Season 5 has Kavaxas (a demon) so Shredder's probably going to team up with him and get demon powers or just a demon-inspired suit.

ToTheNines
01-12-2017, 10:46 AM
"Dark" Shredder?

Jesus Christ.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
01-12-2017, 10:59 AM
"Dark" Shredder?

Jesus Christ.

I can't wait for "Light" Shredder to fight "Dark" Shredder!

neatoman
01-12-2017, 11:09 AM
I don't think this is for a new show. Season 5 has Kavakas (a demon) so Shredder's probably going to team up with him and get demon powers or just a demon-inspired suit.

Then why is he rendered in a different style from the show?

"Dark" Shredder?

Jesus Christ.

Yeah, I'm not sure why he's called that.

Candy Kappa
01-12-2017, 11:15 AM
How much darker can the main villain get?

Sabacooza
01-12-2017, 11:24 AM
Didn't one guy say he did voices for a turtle and Splinter for a new project? Maybe this is for that.

neatoman
01-12-2017, 11:25 AM
How much darker can the main villain get?

Like this?

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/198/4480/640/aquaman%2011.jpg

plastroncafe
01-12-2017, 11:34 AM
Darkness.
No parents!

Andrew NDB
01-12-2017, 11:37 AM
Probably because "Dark Shredder" sounds more like "Darth Vader." Because Darth Vader.

CyberCubed
01-12-2017, 11:50 AM
Am I missing something here? What makes people think we're getting another new TMNT show?

Nick has made shorts with alternate art styles before, and Half-shell heroes. How do we know this isn't a one-off thing?

neatoman
01-12-2017, 11:52 AM
Am I missing something here? What makes people think we're getting another new TMNT show?

Nick has made shorts with alternate art styles before, and Half-shell heroes. How do we know this isn't a one-off thing?

Because the show is ending after season 5 and this looks very elaborate?

CyberCubed
01-12-2017, 11:54 AM
Because the show is ending after season 5 and this looks very elaborate?

Very elaborate? It could easily be a one-off special.

AlZarkovski
01-12-2017, 11:57 AM
Am I missing something here? What makes people think we're getting another new TMNT show?

Nick has made shorts with alternate art styles before, and Half-shell heroes. How do we know this isn't a one-off thing?

As far as I understand, Anthony Petrie makes art ONLY for show, not one-off things.

CyberCubed
01-12-2017, 12:04 PM
As far as I understand, Anthony Petrie makes art ONLY for show, not one-off things.

But couldn't it be something like the Half-shell heroes 1 hour special? I don't get it. Nothing implies this is an all new series.

Vicky82
01-12-2017, 12:18 PM
If you look at top of the website it says this

FW17 SHREDDER STYLE GUIDE

The following is the FW17 Style Guide for Shredder that I designed for Nickelodeon TMNT. It's broken up into 3 sections: Classic Shredder (Original 80s TV Series), Core Shredder (Current TV Series), and Dark Shredder (New Design for Product). All character art provided by Nickelodeon Illustration team (Steve Crespo) and animation studio. All designs, character icons, typography, patterns, product applications, graphics and backgrounds designed by me. 2017 Nickelodeon and Viacom.

https://www.behance.net/gallery/40509683/Shredder-Style-Guide-FW17

It says it's a new design for a product, It doesn't say it's for a new product.

It could be either of these

A new Shredder for the current show (Kavakas probably resurrects him or something)
Or a new TV series (based on IDW)
Or a 1 off special (like Half Shell Heroes but it will be based on IDW)
Or It could be for a new game app or Video Game. (Doubt it's that)

I'm betting the first 1

Powder
01-12-2017, 12:22 PM
Either way, I love the design. If it's for a new show, I'm totally in. If it's just for t-shirts & stuff, well, I'll wear one. :trazz:

Andrew NDB
01-12-2017, 12:25 PM
I admit, if Mirage Shredder came back from the dead sporting that... I wouldn't be mortified. There's no way that cape isn't getting caught on his shin blades, though, like every 3 seconds. And I'd like to see dual rows of blades on the forearms, at least.

CyberCubed
01-12-2017, 12:25 PM
It says it's a new design for a product, It doesn't say it's for a new product.


That's exactly why I don't think its for a new show. It might be a one-off special like Half-shell heroes at most.

Likewise why would they have a new Shredder design shown for a new show but not the Turtles? If we saw both new Turtle designs and Shredder design it being for a new series would be more plausible.

IndigoErth
01-12-2017, 01:04 PM
Would be awesome if it was hints of a new show to come, but not getting my hopes up... Seems awful early for a company to start dropping hints though. But will be curious to see what this turns out to be, if anything.

Would so love a new series that was a lot like 2003 since I never saw that one on tv.

Fang Wolf
01-12-2017, 01:19 PM
Anthony Petrie (official art-director of Nickelodeon) posted these images. One can say with confidence that this is first look on new "Dark Shredder" from new TV-Show!:o

https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/fs/59f4b040509683.5782888f6da85.png
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/fs/901a1840509683.5782888f6e507.png
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/fs/6bb0d740509683.5782888f6f05b.png
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/fs/a3b63a40509683.581a9c15f22ac.png
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/cf828740509683.586a77ff51b8e.png

Also he posted a lot of pictures of Shredder OT. Maybe it means that soon we will see him (and not only in 5 season).

https://www.behance.net/gallery/40509683/Shredder-Style-Guide-FW17


Shredder look awesome in new TMNT show.
So when be new show released? :shredder:

Vicky82
01-12-2017, 01:34 PM
Shredder look awesome in new TMNT show.
So when be new show released? :shredder:

It might not be for a new show.

Fang Wolf
01-12-2017, 01:35 PM
It might not be for a new show.

Oh, I hope that be new show...:tanime:
Or come shredder back in 5 season look like this?

DestronMirage22
01-12-2017, 01:43 PM
That "Dark Shredder" design looks interesting. Wonder what it could be for. I'm game for a new show, provided it's better than the current one.

snake
01-12-2017, 01:56 PM
Looks awesome. I love the artstyle. It reminds me of another cartoon, but I can't think what exactly.

AlessandraDC
01-12-2017, 02:09 PM
Looks very IDW-like. I wonder if it's for another Half Shell Heroes... They did tease a sort of SAINW at the end of the first one.

CyberCubed
01-12-2017, 02:40 PM
I think the thread title is misleading, it should be edited to reflect that we have no idea what this is for. As far as we know there's no new show in development.

Technogeek29
01-12-2017, 02:49 PM
Kinda digging the Oni mask Shredder has. If they didn't want to go that route then just do what they normally do or like IDW (pulls up rest of his cover)

DevilSpooky
01-12-2017, 05:35 PM
The "Dark" bit just screams to me he'll suffer a redesign on the 5th Season and this is nothing more then concept art for that (they don't always use the same style it ends up with on the final product), probably a Demon like possesion or something like that.

I mean, I would love for a new show to be hinted at so earlier but I'm not really feeling it from this.

ToTheNines
01-12-2017, 05:43 PM
The fact that they're calling Nick Shredder, "core Shredder" tells me that this is either a generic design for random merch, or for some type of short/one-shot.

DevilSpooky
01-12-2017, 06:00 PM
The "Dark" bit just screams to me he'll suffer a redesign on the 5th Season and this is nothing more then concept art for that (they don't always use the same style it ends up with on the final product), probably a Demon like possesion or something like that.

I mean, I would love for a new show to be hinted at so earlier but I'm not really feeling it from this.

Ok, after going through that page I changed my mind, those are clearly made for merchandise, so they wouldn't use a different style then the one used on the show, it just defeats the purpose, so this is for something new, but I don't think it's for some kind of offshot, it has to be for something bigger if you're going to sell it, you don't see merch done for those offshots from last year now do you? So this must be for anything really, a new show, a new special, a new comic, or simply put, a merch line with it's own style aimed at an older audience with a more mature take on the characters (banking in on this last one BTW)

CyberCubed
01-12-2017, 07:31 PM
So this must be for anything really, a new show, a new special, a new comic, or simply put, a merch line with it's own style aimed at an older audience with a more mature take on the characters (banking in on this last one BTW)

Season 5 won't even finish airing on TV till 2018. There's no way they're putting out merch now for a new show that wouldn't theoretically air for 2019 or later.

It's either a one-off special like Half-Shell heroes or just merch art.

sdp
01-12-2017, 08:25 PM
It's cool looking but I'm not sure i'd love it for a Shredder in a new show having that mouthpiece all the time. On the other hand Nick having a brand new TMNT show as soon as the CG show ends would be amazing, especially if it were 2D. It would almost take away the bad feeling that cancelling the 2012 show early is going to give us. is it really impossible for it to get a sixth season? I hope there's still a chance for a sixth season even if not likely.

DevilSpooky
01-13-2017, 12:51 AM
Season 5 won't even finish airing on TV till 2018. There's no way they're putting out merch now for a new show that wouldn't theoretically air for 2019 or later.

It's either a one-off special like Half-Shell heroes or just merch art.

You don't know if they're putting that out now, that can be for an inside study, not supposed to be out in public yet, besides, it's not unheard of 2 series of the same franchise airing simultanious, and for all we know they may even air all of Season 5 back to back, to get it out faster and leave the second part of the year open for a new show, 6 months is enough to air all 20 episodes, even less if they air 2 each week just to get it done.

For what it's worth though, I really don't think it's for a new show neither, but the possibility is out there.

Optimus Primer
01-13-2017, 12:14 PM
Didn't one guy say he did voices for a turtle and Splinter for a new project? Maybe this is for that.

In Half-Shell Heroes, they keep the 2012 VA's, so I doubt Shredder is for Half-Shell Heroes. It's unlikely this is for a short, because, like others said, the 3 last year didn't have this sheet.

So that guy saying he's doing voices for a new project, and this new Shredder, maybe it could be a 2-D miniseries?

Ninjinister
01-13-2017, 01:27 PM
Didn't one guy say he did voices for a turtle and Splinter for a new project? Maybe this is for that.

What's all this?

Vicky82
01-13-2017, 01:52 PM
What's all this?

Christopher Smith tweeted that he's voicing Raph and Splinter for a new project.

Christopher Smith ‏@GetMeSmith 12m
Cool new #TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles project coming out soon! I got to voice these guys! #TMNT #TurtleTuesday

https://twitter.com/GetMeSmith/statu...48538264481793

Jester
01-13-2017, 02:18 PM
Video Game maybe? Doesn't Smith do mainly games?

Vicky82
01-13-2017, 02:47 PM
Video Game maybe? Doesn't Smith do mainly games?

Yeah that's my first thought but Activision doesn't have the licence anymore right, So I assume it will be a new game app for phones, I pads ect.

Ninjinister
01-13-2017, 02:49 PM
Christopher Smith tweeted that he's voicing Raph and Splinter for a new project.

Christopher Smith ‏@GetMeSmith 12m
Cool new #TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles project coming out soon! I got to voice these guys! #TMNT #TurtleTuesday

https://twitter.com/GetMeSmith/statu...48538264481793

I never heard about this before. Hurm.

Video Game maybe? Doesn't Smith do mainly games?

Almost exclusively games and anime, although he's done enough outside of those two that something else isn't out of the realm of possibility.

CyberCubed
01-13-2017, 02:50 PM
I guess that confirms this is probably a special or short at most, unless its a videogame. They keep calling it a "project" its obviously not a new full fledged cartoon.

IndigoErth
01-13-2017, 03:09 PM
Why can't a cartoon be a "project"? Not really any limit on the use of that word, esp if you're trying to keep it vague.

Ursalink
01-15-2017, 03:19 PM
Those three Shredders and their nicknames: "Classic Shredder", "Core Shredder", "Dark Shredder". Maybe we are going to have a "Turtles Forever 2"? If it is, I'm missing the Utrom Shredder.

CyberCubed
01-15-2017, 03:28 PM
Well, Ch'rell is dead. So if we never see him again it doesn't matter.

Ursalink
01-15-2017, 06:40 PM
Well, Ch'rell is dead. So if we never see him again it doesn't matter.

How many times he was killed in the series and then he returned? This creep doesn't play dead.

Bry
01-15-2017, 06:57 PM
"FW17"? Is FW for Fred Wolf? This year will mark the 30th anniversary of the original cartoon's debut...

The design doesn't seem to match up with that, though... It doesn't seem anywhere near as streamlined, "gentle" or kid-friendly. But not a bad design overall. It does seem like they took in elements from multiple Shredder designs for this, '87, 2003, and IDW in particular. Actually, it'd fit right in with the armoured 2003 designs. Kind of feeling a comparison to these two:

https://s27.postimg.org/msdyjgooz/shreds.jpg

Some parts are a bit too busy... but that reflects a lot of modern character design sensibilities, and it's not one of the worst offenders by any stretch. The inclusion of maroon and purple is a nice nod to the Mirage and '87 designs. The Oni-style mask is pretty neat, though I don't think I'd like it as a "standard" design.

It'd be a solid movie costume design, actually. A hell of a lot better than anything we've seen lately, for sure.

neatoman
01-16-2017, 03:43 AM
Well, Ch'rell is dead. So if we never see him again it doesn't matter.

"The Shredder is seldom gone for long." -Splinter

AlZarkovski
01-17-2017, 09:11 AM
Sorry, guys...:(

http://s020.radikal.ru/i710/1701/f4/890678139be1.jpg

Sabacooza
01-17-2017, 09:31 AM
Still doesn't explain what the voice actor was working on. There is still another project.

ToTheNines
01-17-2017, 09:48 AM
What older product though?

Powder
01-17-2017, 11:09 AM
Product meant for 'older' fans, like us?

CyberCubed
01-17-2017, 11:25 AM
I told you guys Nick wasn't making another cartoon.

We might get another special or short though like Half-shell heroes or those 3 minute shorts the creative team made.

PixieAnna1
01-17-2017, 06:01 PM
Would be cool if we got a short aimed for older fans.
But if that turns out to be true, why now would there be an interest in that audience suddenly?

Powder
01-17-2017, 06:44 PM
Because their cartoon/comic made aimed at kids are ending, & the goofy movie performed poorly. IDW's young adult comic does great numbers & is their most successful title. So it's possible (though unlikely in my opinion).

Sabacooza
01-17-2017, 07:08 PM
Yeah, it would be nice if Nick/Viacom switched gears to something with the same flavor as the IDW comics. I think if they're smart they will. They haven't done that yet and maybe, just maybe, they'll discover that's where the sweet spot is... hopefully.

Ashwolf
01-17-2017, 07:13 PM
Yeah, it would be nice if Nick/Viacom switched gears to something with the same flavor as the IDW comics. I think if they're smart they will. They haven't done that yet and maybe, just maybe, they'll discover that's where the sweet spot is... hopefully.

would be so awesome if a more adult show was made but doubt itll happen since people keep slapping the "for kids" label on it......

Sabacooza
01-17-2017, 07:26 PM
Sad but true.

neatoman
01-18-2017, 04:25 AM
OK, but if the idea is to have something with a more "mature" feel to put on merch, why not just use artwork from IDW? Why make a brand new design?

Bry
01-18-2017, 08:34 AM
Well, it wouldn't be the first time something like this happened. Personally, I'd rather see more Mirage or IDW art and designs used for "adult" merchandise than making up new designs that don't "belong" to any particular iteration... or even 2003-style as most or all of the kids who watched that show are adults now. But I do like the design here overall.

ToTheNines
03-06-2017, 04:09 PM
Any chance of this being Rise related?

CyberCubed
03-06-2017, 05:16 PM
This Shredder looks far too menacing and over designed for a series that's supposed to be, "lighter and funnier" than the Nick cartoon.

BubblyShell22
03-06-2017, 05:24 PM
I don't know if it's related to the new show coming out, but I like the design overall.

turtlefanforever
03-06-2017, 05:43 PM
Would explain the "Dark shredder" title you guys have such a hard time grasping. With the new series being mystic turtles.

CyberCubed
03-06-2017, 05:53 PM
Would explain the "Dark shredder" title you guys have such a hard time grasping. With the new series being mystic turtles.

The new series is supposed to be lighter and funnier from the official description. This seems to be the complete opposite.

BubblyShell22
03-06-2017, 05:54 PM
Yes, but there can still be darker elements to it, too.

Freeman
03-06-2017, 08:08 PM
I told you guys Nick wasn't making another cartoon.

Yeah, nobody saw that coming

I don't think this material is gonna end in the Rise show, wich it a real bummer because I really dig this Shredder.
Let's hope Nick proves us all wrong again and the 'lighter' tone is not as light and this is our new villain ^o^