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FredWolfLeonardo
02-10-2017, 06:55 PM
Please note, this is not a troll or flame thread.

Imagine you're in charge of the PD films and the second one has become a box office success, so a third has been greenlit. You're in charge of making this film, its story, characters and casting choices. What choices would you make and why? Use your imagination, and please no trolling/flaming.

IndigoErth
02-10-2017, 07:25 PM
Well for starters I'd certainly have Krang come back as an actual threat. If most "aliens attacking Earth" themed movies can battle said aliens for 3/4th of a film, then so can a TMNT. (Rather than spending much of it on a scavenger hunt. Imagine if other alien films did that... say, instead of fighting them, they just have a scavenger hunt to collect pieces of a weapon to destroy them in the last ten minuets of the movie, before they ever actually became a threat. :roll: "Aliens, you just wait there. We'll be back in 80 minutes to finish you.") Also have Krang decide that Shredder is more valuable and an asset to him unfrozen. Although they're going to have to inject Shredder with some of his trademark insanity to even consider helping Krang out after being so rudely frozen and put on a shelf as a collectable.



Alternately... skip all that and do a more Earthbound story that exists prior to Krang and Shredder ever returning. If we need an old foe still then just elevate Karai to head of the Foot in Shredder's absence and let the woman actually DO something and have a big evil plan up her faux leather sleeve. I might prefer this, esp if the Krang/Shredder situation would still be resolved in a 4th.

CyberCubed
02-10-2017, 07:34 PM
First thing is the movie would open with the Turtles all getting nose jobs. They'll say they went to some government agency that removes nostrils from mutant turtles. Second of all I'd have them do acrobatics to make them lose weight and slim down.

Lastly for plot it'd probably involve Shredder returning from Dimension X with Krang for his revenge, and then make it a gritty revenge story.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-11-2017, 03:56 AM
It could begin with the turtles battling some Purple Dragons, defeating them easy and everything looks OK. Suddenly hundreds of Triceraton spacecraft approaches Earth, firing their laser-cannons and missiles starting a large-scale invasion.

ToTheNines
02-11-2017, 05:15 AM
Within the parameters of the Bayturtles universe? Multiverse crossover is the only thing that would interest md in the slightest.

Definitely get Henson Turtles. Next Mutation would be hilarious. And maybe even photorealistic versions of Mirage, Imagi, and Nick?

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-11-2017, 05:34 AM
Within the parameters of the Bayturtles universe? Multiverse crossover is the only thing that would interest md in the slightest.

Definitely get Henson Turtles. Next Mutation would be hilarious. And maybe even photorealistic versions of Mirage, Imagi, and Nick?

Does that ever happens in other comic book-based films (like Batman, Spiderman and Superman)?

ToTheNines
02-11-2017, 05:43 AM
Not in films, no. But someone's gonna do it someday.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-11-2017, 05:45 AM
Not in films, no. But someone's gonna do it someday.

For those who aren't hardcore-fans, it will just cause confusion.

Autbot_Benz
02-11-2017, 12:28 PM
how would i make TMNT 3 get rid of bay and PD and just make the 3rd movie a reboot

Andrew NDB
02-11-2017, 01:06 PM
Within the parameters of the Bayturtles universe? Multiverse crossover is the only thing that would interest md in the slightest.

Definitely get Henson Turtles. Next Mutation would be hilarious. And maybe even photorealistic versions of Mirage, Imagi, and Nick?

Yeah, first 5 minutes of TMNT 3: Donatello has built a portal. The PD Turtles jump through it trying to get to Dimension X to go after Krang, but end up in the Mirage universe. Right away they're eaten by Leatherhead, and the Mirage Turtles burn what's left.

IndigoErth
02-11-2017, 01:35 PM
Next Mutation would be hilarious.
On that note, I request a cameo of the Turtles from that awful Christmas special, weird accents and all. And they must burst into song so other Turtles (with particular focus given to PD due to mocap subtleties) can look bewildered and annoyed like, "What is even going on right now?"

neatoman
02-11-2017, 01:56 PM
Bebop gets roasted, literally, and Rocksteady's horn is sold to impotent men in China.

ToTheNines
02-11-2017, 02:09 PM
Yeah, first 5 minutes of TMNT 3: Donatello has built a portal. The PD Turtles jump through it trying to get to Dimension X to go after Krang, but end up in the Mirage universe. Right away they're eaten by Leatherhead, and the Mirage Turtles burn what's left.

I'd be there opening night.

Tora
02-11-2017, 06:11 PM
I'd want to see the Turtles and Casey hunting down Bebop and Rocksteady in the first act of the film when the Turtles come across the Purple Dragons and Hun played by Dwayne The Rock Johnson. The Purple Dragons team with Bebop and Rocksteady & decide to take over new york now that Shredder is out of the picture. The PD and B&R could be as the setup Villains of the movie as it builds up to a full on invasion from Dimension X.

For the final act have the Turtles learn from Bebop and Rocksteady that Shredder and Krang are returning to earth soon. The Turtles then hunt down Baxter and use his tech to build a Portal to take the fight to them and head to Dimension X. When the heroes arrive they see that Krang has Robo Foot Ninja and a Rock Soldier army ready for an invasion.

Now for the finally I'd have the final showdown be with a Mutated Super Shredder in the Technodrome portal room who is set to lead the army to earth. The Turtles of course need to stop the army from getting thru and get past Shredder as Donnie has set the drome to explode.

Jephael
02-11-2017, 10:31 PM
Gotta admit, the multi-verse idea sounds really cool. I'd love to see it like intersect with the Kraang portals used in the Nickelodeon series.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-12-2017, 07:20 AM
For the final act have the Turtles learn from Bebop and Rocksteady that Shredder and Krang are returning to earth soon.

How can ebop and Rocksteady know that?

ssjup81
02-12-2017, 07:58 AM
First thing is the movie would open with the Turtles all getting nose jobs. They'll say they went to some government agency that removes nostrils from mutant turtles. Second of all I'd have them do acrobatics to make them lose weight and slim down.

Lastly for plot it'd probably involve Shredder returning from Dimension X with Krang for his revenge, and then make it a gritty revenge story.Kind of hard to lose muscle..

ToTheNines
02-12-2017, 08:52 AM
On that note, I request a cameo of the Turtles from that awful Christmas special, weird accents and all. And they must burst into song so other Turtles (with particular focus given to PD due to mocap subtleties) can look bewildered and annoyed like, "What is even going on right now?"

There's a hip-hop Christmas album joke in there somewhere.

GoldMutant
02-12-2017, 12:12 PM
"Once there was a movie called TMNT 3, it was so bad that everyone died, the end."

Honestly, only way I can say how to make TMNT 3 is to rewrite the first two movies. Even then, it wouldn't be something I have interest in.

IndigoErth
02-12-2017, 12:16 PM
There's a hip-hop Christmas album joke in there somewhere.
Yes! Forgot about that, now I want it even more. lol


I can see it now. PD TMNT 3...collision of dimensions, alternate universes keep getting their wires crossed and PD Turtles, in the process of trying to save the world, run across the Christmas special guys on a street corner singing opera and pause momentarily like "wtf?" Cue Raph with an anti-Christmas hip hop album joke toward Mikey and something about becoming "like those guys."

At least looked hilarious in my head just now. :tlol::lol:

Panda_Kahn_fan
02-22-2017, 11:24 AM
For what I'd do for the next tmnt film, I would soft reboot the series, only vagely referncing thier battles with Bebop, Rocksteady, Shredder, and Krang.

Personally, I would just do a stand alone, live action adaptation of the TMNT adventures Archie comics story arc 'midnight sun'. I think it would make a good story (with a few modifications) and the way the white Ninjas simply vanish when 'killed' would allow for the TMNT to cut loose with their weapons in a gritty ninja battle. Ninjara/Alopex, Hothead, and Chien Kahn would give Playmates toys plenty of merchandise to peddle, and a finale where the TMNT, Splinter and Oyuki battle Chen and the white Ninja, while a Giant hothead and Noi-da-tarr trashed a japanese city kaiju-style would be epic.

Story wise, I'd remove April O' Neal from the plot, and also remove the Hiroshima/nuclear references. I'd begin with a brief flashback covering the turtles and Splinter/Hamato Yoshi's origin. Then I'd have the film start with Oyuki (here a ninja herself) come to America to tell Splinter/Yoshi that his old friend Fu Sheng had been kidnapped by the white ninja. The turtles and Splinter go with her to japan, and try to rescue Sheng from Chien Khan. Khan, along with his controlled lackeys hothead and Ninjara. (here ninjara, Hothead and Chen were all humans changed into anthros by Noi Da tarr's magic) The turtles, Oyyuki, and Splinter fight the white ninja all over Japan, trying to prevent them from assembling the artifacts that will allow Chien to open a portal to free his master. At the film's climax, Chen Kahn forces Sheng to complete the ritual that opens the portal and lets Noi Dat Tarr into our world. Ninjara and Hothead break free from Chen's control, and Sheng uses his powers to allow Hothead to grow to giant size. And a final epic martial arts battle to save the world begins.

At least, that's what I'd do for the next TMNT film.

Andrew NDB
02-22-2017, 11:42 AM
Kind of hard to lose muscle..

That's actually pretty easy to do.

ToTheNines
02-22-2017, 12:21 PM
That's actually pretty easy to do.

Lol, yeah. I can unfortunately attest to the fact that it's all too easy.

IndigoErth
03-11-2017, 12:38 PM
Saw this on Facebook... Immediately made me think of TMNT. If a third somehow happened (or I guess another live action reboot), these repurposed globes are a MUST for the lair.

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17103397_1418844218156913_597056576626179041_n.jpg ?oh=37860b19cf7c31e63eb7e68f0158d0a5&oe=592C3295

Candy Kappa
03-11-2017, 01:31 PM
Well, to make a hypothetical PDMT3 you gotta think like PD/Bay. You need a huge set piece to build the movie around, the first movie had a chase scene down a snowy mountain (right outside of NYC) featuring a huge truck and the second movie had a airplane chase/fight scene and fighting down a river in Brazil chasing a Mcguffin.

So you have to up the previous money shots. So, here's my set piece: A chase scene with spaceships ending in fighting on the outside of the Technodrome, in space.

Now we need a way to have the Turtles get to the set piece:

April does investigating reporter stuff that ends up getting her in a sexualized titillating situation. She's investigating Baxter and how he escaped all blame from the previous movie and is now trying to use the tech Kra(a)ng left so he can make a portal to Space/Dimension X.

And we need to introduce Irma, she's a nerd that is secretly hot, so through the movie she need to get out of her mousy nerdy shell and become a bombshell. not a important plotline, so I can be resovled more or less really fast, but we need a slo-mo reveal of the new sexy Irma (cue pervert joke from Mikey)

Bebop & Rockseady is loose, some high jinx there, have some explosions and cars flying around on either a highway with bridge arches or in middle of NYC. Turtles have to fight them by dropping heavy stuff in their heads, slamdunk a tank on them and end with a "my man" catch-phrase.

Baxter inadvertently aids the Turtles with the Portal to Space/Dimension X. Kra(a)ng is doing something that the Turtles have to stop him again, maybe getting to our dimension but ended up in space and is closing in on earth or whatever, have Donnie use technobabble to "explain" it (Mikey will say "in English, dude!" and Donnie will go "Bad stuff will happens")

Cue awesome Set Piece scene, lots of action (but not too technical in the Martial Arts department, just make it look kewl), lots of jokes and maybe some pizza.

Turtles enter Technodrome and have to fight Kra(a)ng and probably Shredder, we get a closer look at the "trophy room" but not too close, gotta keep some stuff vague, but that shape is totally something TMNT related to show that we making the movie do care for the fans.

Then the 'Drome is going to blow up, and a timer scene happens, getting in time to a portal back to earth before it all blows up. The Turtles flies through the portal ala Turtles in Time (we love you fans) and then they fall face first in the concrete in NYC. Mikey kisses the pavement and goes "yuck" cause the pavement is dirty, Turtles laugh and cue some sequel baiting (Shredder and Kra(a)ng survives in a escape pod arguing with each other)

sdp
03-11-2017, 02:29 PM
No offence but the ideas so far are terrible or just trolling attempts, you can't "fix" the PD's TMNT movies, it is what it is. We already have (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=55543)a similar thread but at that point it was a "what do you want to see" since the possibility was still open for a sequel.

You have to go with the strengths that the PD's interpretation offers granted that's not a lot but it does have one: a live action TMNT film where anything is possible including the most out there stuff in any incarnation including sci-fi. I wanted a third movie since in this version there aren't any restrictions on what they can't do. I honestly think this will be the only time we'll ever see the Technodrome or Krang on a big screen live action interpretation so I'd definitely want to see more of this universe do while not the fan favorite it would give us maybe the only live action interpretation of crazy stuff.

So what would I do? Let's take a look at what we were left off after the first two movies:

Shredder could've recovered from his transformers armor/defeat in the first movie but I don't think he could ever be a legitimate threat in a fight after being disposed of by Krang in seconds, talk about burying the main villain so I don't see him being a big threat any more in future movies besides being someone who moves chess pieces around. Sachs was completely ignored in the sequel and he should've been there, I mean as much as you hate him they took an entire movie to make him a part of the universe so he should get some type of closure even if just to dispose of him but to ignore like nothing happened. I'm pretty sure Beebop & Rocksteady would be back in some minor way. The Technodrome and Kraang I just don't see them in a sequel, I mean what else could they really do that they didn't do in this film with Krang?Drome to make it different? Baxter Stockman was obviously set up to return big in a sequel and he'd probably mutate but I doubt he'd be able to carry a film by himself.

I'd want them to try something totally sci-fi/fantasy heavy and craziest TMNT stories out there that would never be able to be done in a more "realistic" TMNT movie as mentioned above. And I don't mean time travel, that's not that out there but doing a Triceratons/travelling through space for whatever reason and have much of it not set on earth, some ancient Japanese myth come to life with lots of magical stuff in it, or even better an all out mutant fest where we see all our favorite mutants all in one movie that we remember from the toys or even other incarnations, this could be done through mutagen or by travelling to another planet or going to another universe through a portal made by magic.

Like I mentioned the redeeming factor in this interpretation is they can do things that most grounded interpretations wouldn't be able to do so they needed to take advantage of that in a third movie and play to the strengths. yes April would continue to be Megan Fox doing what she does best. None of us care if the hulk turtles do outlandish stuff after all, the universe was already tainted since the first film. I don't want a "city at war" story or whatever realistic "let's try to save the story and make it like the vision that we wanted", It was already too late for that after the first film and that should be saved for a much better interpretation of the turtles on film. Have fun with what they inherited.

For those reasons above I really regret not having a third movie, we'll have to wait a long time before we get a reboot that we actually want/love (most of the fanbase, never for you Andrew; sorry) so why not go crazy with a sequel and do things that would never be done otherwise.

ToTheNines
03-11-2017, 02:53 PM
Well yours sucks too.

a snowy mountain (right outside of NYC)

Which I can assure you does not exist.

Candy Kappa
03-11-2017, 03:04 PM
Which I can assure you does not exist.

Hollywood tell no lies! :lol:

IndigoErth
03-11-2017, 03:47 PM
Stop with your fake news. Of course it exists. But it's not made of rock, it's the mountain of lies and poor choices by parts of the film industry. Mount Hollylies. Piled up so high, enough in elevation to receive snow any time of year.


I dunno, maybe a lot of Turtles stuff it just too much for these people to handle well. Maybe they need an easier topic to work on than aliens and enemy robo ninjas... Maybe go with something simple, like, I dunno... a natural disaster movie instead. *shrug*

sdp
03-11-2017, 05:16 PM
So are the musical turtles VHS in continuity with the PD movies or just similar events happened in the PD universe?

;)

I myself always included them in the CootS Your continuity.

Well yours sucks too.


:lol:

FredWolfLeonardo
03-11-2017, 06:14 PM
So are the musical turtles VHS in continuity with the PD movies or just similar events happened in the PD universe?

;)

I myself always included them in the CootS Your continuity.



:lol:

I could imagine the Christmas turtles actually being the PD turtles after many years of alcohol abuse and aging, somehow gaining Jamacian accents in the process.

They finally made their hip hop album, years after defeating Krang and having nothing to do. Even B&R are mentioned in the "Special" so you could argue that they are from the same continuity.

Wolfie65
03-20-2017, 09:44 AM
In order for this scenario to work at all, I'll have to roll it all the way back to movie 1, which, with me as director and/or writer, would have been about the 'creation myth' of the Turtles, starting at the pet store.
Movie 2 would then have been about their first contact with the world outside the sewers, maybe their first experience with the Foot Clan.
Notice: No Shredder, no other mutants, certainly no Krang anywhere.
Very few people, and no human other than April Megan O'Neill-Fox (and a few Foot....) even knows they exist.
I would definitely try to keep that dramatic tension alive for as long as possible.
In movie 3, they might learn of the existence of that shadowy menace called 'Shredder'........