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Monte Williams
02-18-2017, 11:48 AM
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Following the example of the recent Batman '66 animated film, would you fine people be interested in an animated movie (or, better yet, an animated series) recreating the aesthetic of the 1990 live action Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie? I have to believe the original cast would be pretty affordable.

TheSkeletonMan939
02-18-2017, 12:15 PM
The styles seem a little incompatible to me.

Sabacooza
02-18-2017, 12:28 PM
Would you fine people be interested in an animated movie (or, better yet, an animated series) recreating the aesthetic of the 1990 live action Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie? I have to believe the original cast would be pretty affordable.Yes, yes I would but there's not enough love for this version from Viacom to even happen, sadly. Not to mention legal issues tying those movies up but I'm not sure. Would that effect them making a new series based on this version if they wanted to?

dragonside
02-18-2017, 12:51 PM
legal and licensing issues aside.

I'd really like to see it. A revival of old and popular incarnations of the TMNT would be amazing. Similar to what DC and Marvel are doing.

Continuing the stories and the shows... YEAH. But at this point in time I'd say its a little too soon. maybe in 5 years.

RaphaelinSTL
02-20-2017, 08:33 PM
I actually just had a dream the other day that someone made a beat em up game in the classic Konami style that was based off the look of the 1990 movie....and when I woke up I was heavily disappointed.

I would be completely down for this. I know Josh Pais and Brian Tochi still have a pretty good voice over voice these days but I feel like Corey Feldman has some really bad husky voice (from smoking maybe?) and Robbie Rist sounds pretty older as well, right? I could be wrong...I think the last time I hear Rist's voice was in that goofy Angry Video Game Nerd movie.

***First of Two Latin Kings***
02-20-2017, 09:26 PM
Rist voices Mondo Gecko and sounds fine.

I think Feldman's huskiness is put on for doing the voice of Slash.

Powder
02-20-2017, 10:24 PM
Could potentially kick a little ass, but I agree with-

The styles seem a little incompatible to me.

Probably best to just leave it as is/was.

Andrew NDB
02-20-2017, 11:05 PM
There is nothing that seems synonymous between the '66 styled Batman animated movie and the 1990 TMNT movie. If anything, something based on the Fred Wolf show. Maybe. I expect it wouldn't make any money and TPTB would again be left wondering, "Wh-wh-why didn't anyone buy it? It's what everyone likes about the TMNT!!!"

F*ck off.

oldmanwinters
02-20-2017, 11:07 PM
In the wake of "Return of the Caped Crusader," there are talks of an animated Batman/TMNT crossover...
http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/exclusive-wb-possibly-planning-animated-movies-batmanteenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-wonder-woman-77/

Monte Williams
02-20-2017, 11:41 PM
To clarify, I don't want any of the tone of Batman '66. I only cited it as an example of getting an original cast together to do voices for an old property. Like Filmation's Star Trek, but with the entire cast in the booth together.

I want an animated film or series starring the actors form the '90 film, with an aesthetic mimicking that of the '90 film; between Waking Life/A Scanner Darkly and Sin City, I think they could mimic the look of the live-action film relatively well.

Wildcat
02-21-2017, 03:05 AM
I understand what you're saying but the 90s movie TMNT is not THAT different from TMNT now. It just never got into any of the really sci-fi stuff.

It would pretty much be like now except with the look of the 90s movie. I don't really see a point.

60s Batman was very different compared to modern Batman. That was the point of the animated movie. To bring back that retro style.

ProactiveMan
02-21-2017, 03:17 AM
It sounds like a fun idea. Id like to see someone make standalone TMNT animated movies regardless.

Andrew NDB
02-21-2017, 11:16 AM
I understand what you're saying but the 90s movie TMNT is not THAT different from TMNT now.

Are you high?

ToTheNines
02-21-2017, 03:45 PM
In the wake of "Return of the Caped Crusader," there are talks of an animated Batman/TMNT crossover...
http://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/exclusive-wb-possibly-planning-animated-movies-batmanteenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-wonder-woman-77/

I'm pretty confident that we'll eventuality have a Batman '66/Fred Wolf crossover. Either animated or as a comic book.

Jephael
02-21-2017, 06:42 PM
I'm pretty confident that we'll eventuality have a Batman '66/Fred Wolf crossover. Either animated or as a comic book.

How about if it's done as a Broadway musical?

ToTheNines
02-21-2017, 06:46 PM
Why would that happen?

ProactiveMan
02-21-2017, 08:30 PM
I'm pretty confident that we'll eventuality have a Batman '66/Fred Wolf crossover. Either animated or as a comic book.

I'm not sure that there is a big enough overlap in their respective fan-bases. There is some, but a lot of Batman 66 fans are pretty old.

Wildcat
02-21-2017, 10:46 PM
Are you high?Ok just how different is current TMNT to live action 90s TMNT? Excluding the Michael Bay movies of course.

The characters are the same. Themes are the same. Tone is the same. 90s live action just never went into the alien stuff.

The OP wanted an animated movie or series with the look and style of the 90s live action movies. What would be the huge difference besides the look?

ABrown
02-22-2017, 09:38 AM
If you want it to be in the style of the Batman 66 movie, it would need to be based off the Next Mutation series.

Otherwise, as far as a movie that's in the style of the 1990 movie. It's already been done. It came out in 2007 and it was called TMNT.

Monte Williams
02-22-2017, 09:43 AM
I love the 2007 film, but while it matched the tone of the '90 film fairly well, its aesthetic was totally different.

Andrew NDB
02-22-2017, 11:02 AM
Ok just how different is current TMNT to live action 90s TMNT? Excluding the Michael Bay movies of course.

Why would you exclude them? There has been two movies so far and that's been a huge part of the Nick/Viacom lineup.

The characters are the same. Themes are the same. Tone is the same. 90s live action just never went into the alien stuff.

That's not entirely wrong. The 90s live action were just the Fred Wolf TMNT brought to life minus the wacky characters.

Wildcat
02-22-2017, 10:34 PM
Why would you exclude them? There has been two movies so far and that's been a huge part of the Nick/Viacom lineup.Because they lean more towards the OT and seem more action oriented. (I have not seen the second)

OP wants a film/series in the style of 90s live action. The Nick cartoon is basically that already. It just has a different art style and aliens.

That's not entirely wrong. The 90s live action were just the Fred Wolf TMNT brought to life minus the wacky characters.Uh no. They're clearly 2 different things. They just made the movie due its popularity.

The 90s movie is grounded in reality. The Fred Wolf series is very cartoonish even without all the wacky characters. The Fred Wolf series would be the 60s Batman equivalent...not the 90s movie.

pferreira
02-23-2017, 09:08 AM
It would pretty much be like now except with the look of the 90s movie. I don't really see a point.I agree. I don't see the point either. The 1990s live action movies and the PD movies are stylistically different but the tone isn't too far off in each case. I don't see the point of doing an animated feature based off the 90s movies.

That's not entirely wrong. The 90s live action were just the Fred Wolf TMNT brought to life minus the wacky characters.No way! Not even the second movie was close to being a live action recreation of the FW cartoon series.

Tetsu Deinonychus
02-25-2017, 11:34 AM
That's not entirely wrong. The 90s live action were just the Fred Wolf TMNT brought to life minus the wacky characters.

Yeah, I gotta disagree with that. The plot (minus April being a reporter, which was the one FW element that really worked because there's no Baxter after all) was almost entirely from the Mirage foot clan issues. And, as for the turtles themselves, well there is the annoying surfer slang (which is pretty cringe-worthy to watch as an adult), and Mike's "wackiness" (which I'm fine with because pure-Mirage Mike is a little "flat").

But, aside from that, they're still fairly Mirage faithful. They have Raphael's rage problem (and none of his sense of humor from the cartoon), the bickering between Raph and Leo, Don is brainy, but not constantly inventing new toys and playsets er I mean "weapons" and "vehicles".

I would call the 1990 movie mostly Mirage based, but with a sprinkling of FW elements (reporter April, Wacky Mike, Pizza, "gnarly slang", colored masks) to avoid confusing the kids. And, also some whole Oliver Twist, troubled youth, "crime doesn't pay" thing that doesn't really come from either. But, I don't agree that putting a drop of FW (and another drop of Oliver Twist) into a bucket of Mirage makes a bucket of FW.

ToTheNines
02-25-2017, 11:51 AM
Yeah, I gotta disagree with that. The plot (minus April being a reporter, which was the one FW element that really worked because there's no Baxter after all) was almost entirely from the Mirage foot clan issues. And, as for the turtles themselves, well there is the annoying surfer slang (which is pretty cringe-worthy to watch as an adult), and Mike's "wackiness" (which I'm fine with because pure-Mirage Mike is a little "flat").

But, aside from that, they're still fairly Mirage faithful. They have Raphael's rage problem (and none of his sense of humor from the cartoon), the bickering between Raph and Leo, Don is brainy, but not constantly inventing new toys and playsets er I mean "weapons" and "vehicles".

I would call the 1990 movie mostly Mirage based, but with a sprinkling of FW elements (reporter April, Wacky Mike, Pizza, "gnarly slang", colored masks) to avoid confusing the kids. And, also some whole Oliver Twist, troubled youth, "crime doesn't pay" thing that doesn't really come from either. But, I don't agree that putting a drop of FW (and another drop of Oliver Twist) into a bucket of Mirage makes a bucket of FW.

Agreed. Good post.

I never really considered that reporter April kinda had to be, since there's no sensible way they could have fit Baxter and Mousers into that script.

LeotheLateBloomer
02-25-2017, 10:20 PM
Not even the second movie was close to being a live action recreation of the FW cartoon series.

To be fair, Soto was closer to FW than OotS was.:lol:

pferreira
03-02-2017, 09:17 AM
To be fair, Soto was closer to FW than OotS was.:lol:Both don't even come close to being FW.

LeotheLateBloomer
03-02-2017, 01:27 PM
Soto was FW-influenced is what I'm saying.

Powder
03-02-2017, 09:35 PM
SOTO nails the FW styled personalities, I think. Way more than OOTS.

Panda_Kahn_fan
03-02-2017, 10:33 PM
This idea could work, if handled right. Let's say we ignore the sequels, and just concentrate on continuing the story of the first film....

Imagine that the foot was actually much, much larger than what we saw in the first film; an international criminal empire, and Shredder was just taking an extended inspection visit at a youth recruitment center for the foot run by Tatsu, when the whole 'Turtle' thing went down. Basically, the turtles only took out one training facility that recruited youths to become potential foot ninja, but because Saki was in the wrong place at the wrong time, the head of the New York branch of this criminal empire died in the back of a garbage truck. The seat of Power vacant, New York now becomes the battleground for the warring foot factions, and Splinter and the turtles must live with the guilt that they are responsible of all of the innocents dying, and must decide if they will do something about it. Meanwhile, a certain foot Kunoichi jonin manages to arrive from Japan, to put the Foot Clan's house back in order...

..yeah, you know what? With how the recent movies turned out, never mind. It'd never be handled right. :tsad:

d_osborn
03-02-2017, 11:46 PM
I would call the 1990 movie mostly Mirage based, but with a sprinkling of FW elements (reporter April, Wacky Mike, Pizza, "gnarly slang", colored masks) to avoid confusing the kids. And, also some whole Oliver Twist, troubled youth, "crime doesn't pay" thing that doesn't really come from either.
That's pretty much exactly how Eastman and/or Laird described it in a few interviews while the movie was in production.

There were rumors ages ago that there was a more cartoon-inspired script prior to Golden Harvest version, but that's pretty much been debunked.

sgtfbomb
03-03-2017, 09:34 AM
I agree. I don't see the point either. The 1990s live action movies and the PD movies are stylistically different but the tone isn't too far off in each case. I don't see the point of doing an animated feature based off the 90s movies.


Sometimes it seems like "if it's not Mirage, it's FW" as if those are the only two things that have ever come from the franchise.

Personally, I consider the 1990 film a staple of its own for the franchise. It's a great medium between the two. I would argue it's neither Mirage nor FW, but a touch of both.

It's also the only TMNT film to fully treat the Turtles like flesh and blood people, not just caricatures. That campfire scene is just beautiful and that scene where they arrive at April's apartment after Splinter is MIA, I'm right there with them, and you can't tell me you don't feel Raph's anger when they find their layer destroyed and Splinter gone, presumably dead. That's the only TMNT film where I've felt emotions such as those.

pferreira
03-09-2017, 10:20 AM
Soto was FW-influenced is what I'm saying.Oh yeah definitely.

Cryomancer
03-09-2017, 12:52 PM
Clearly we need to define the TMNT Spectrum. On one end is Mirage and the other end FW. Maybe have Bodycount and like, Turtle Xmas sticking off past them as extreme-extreme ends. I imagine most stuff would be finding itself closer to the FW end, since that seems to be what they want to channel most often.

ToTheNines
03-09-2017, 02:01 PM
I would structure such a spectrum as a triangle. One point Mirage (nuanced, adult-oriented source material), one point Fred Wolf (pizza, Cowabunga, hella mutants) and one point Platinum Dunes (complete lack of understanding of franchise. Hollow and soulless).

Shark_Blade
03-09-2017, 05:36 PM
Eh, no more classic looking. Embrace modern era.

pferreira
03-16-2017, 10:29 AM
Eh, no more classic looking. Embrace modern era.So embrace PD movies, Nick and IDW?

Hamato Yoshi
05-27-2017, 10:00 PM
Soto was FW-influenced is what I'm saying.

Kitana : "You must use the element that gives life":lol::P

(that's a Mortal Kombat joke btw...too bad it was no sold , it gave *me* a chuckle though , lulz)

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-28-2017, 03:53 AM
The original films are a mix, and that was OK.

LeotheLateBloomer
05-28-2017, 09:43 AM
Kitana : "You must use the element that gives life":lol::P

(that's a Mortal Kombat joke btw...too bad it was no sold , it gave *me* a chuckle though , lulz)

I got the joke, no worries.:lol:

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-28-2017, 09:49 AM
Do you like the 1990 film? Then I see no point of re-recording it again.