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Prowler
03-01-2017, 03:55 PM
So it seems lately there's been many discussions about the subject of discrimination on the internet and the media, so I was wondering: have you ever suffered discrimination in your life? And by this I mean the sort of discrimination that hits you the hardest. Not getting made fun for liking wrestling(me in 10th grade) or the Ninja Turtles more than it's socially acceptable to do so.

As far as I know, I have never been a victim of racism or xenophobia in my entire life to this day. And I don't count some idiot or troll on the internet yelling insults at me after I beat him on an online game or after I disagreed with him in an online discussion and he had no arguments left except insulting me. I'm talking about real life here. Sure, I've had people of all backgrounds being rude dicks to me, but afaik, racism or xenophobia weren't behind it at all. I always assume that when someone is a dick to me it's because they just personally don't like me or find my appearance odd(for years I've had long hair and a bit unkempt facial hair. heavy metal \m/).

Perhaps I am lucky. What about you? Got any stories to tell?

CyberCubed
03-01-2017, 03:59 PM
Not really. I'm white and I don't talk about my religion so nobody cares.

Prowler
03-01-2017, 04:01 PM
Not really. I'm white and I don't talk about my religion so nobody cares.
I'm an Atheist. According to the latest census, about 81% of people in my country still identify as "Catholic", although half of them only claim to be so and knoe nothing about the religion or think about ti much.

I've always been an Atheist and remember other kids in school looking at me funny "you don't believe in God, really?" but I don't consider that discrimination, tbh. It didn't affect me much, let's say.

IndigoErth
03-01-2017, 04:24 PM
White atheist who keeps said lack of god beleifs to herself, so not really.

I've wondered if maybe there was some in that regard from a former employer of a short lived job, but not sure. (But they were sucky people and I suspect they had a habit of ditching people after only a short time anyhow.)

I probably get, or at least witness, more prejudice by simply working retail and seeing/dealing with customers who think it's their right to treat retail workers as inferior human beings.

I've always been an Atheist and remember other kids in school looking at me funny "you don't believe in God, really?" but I don't consider that discrimination, tbh. It didn't affect me much, let's say.
Heh, try telling them in this country. Esp in one of those 'red states.'

That said though, Catholics are probably the ones I would (and on rare occasion have) feel most able to be open about it, since they are, at least around here, the more liberal and tolerant among the various forms of Christians. Far more likely to shrug it off and agree to disagree and not bother with any threats of hellfire or acting as if you are diseased.

Prowler
03-01-2017, 04:26 PM
White atheist who keeps said lack of god beleifs to herself, so not really.

I've wondered if maybe there was some in that regard from a former employer of a short lived job, but not sure. (But they were sucky people and I suspect they had a habit of ditching people after only a short time anyhow.)

I probably get, or at least witness, more prejudice by simply working retail and seeing/dealing with customers who think it's their right to treat retail workers as inferior human beings.


Heh, try telling them in this country. Esp in one of those 'red states.'

That said though, Catholics are probably the ones I would (and on rare occasion have) feel most able to be open about it, since they are, at least around here, the more liberal and tolerant among the various forms of Christians.
We have some very religious people in this country but people aren't that much in your face about it. I think the more religious areas are in rural areas up in the northern regions, which I've never been to, though. But we don't have anything called "bible belt" here.

DisKosh
03-01-2017, 05:42 PM
The only possible personal discrimination I can think of is when I was a kid and I wanted to go on this school trip to Greece. I got my application in on time and as I was studying Classics I got first priority but I was worried because I was on the autistic spectrum they wouldn't let me go. However my dad said that legally they'd have to make adjustments and the school assured me it wouldn't count against me.

Anyway, I didn't get to go and I just assumed it was because there was a limited number of places. Then later on I found out that my friend who studied Latin got to go and I didn't.

I could be jumping to conclusions but it does feel like possible discrimination.

I was frequently called 'Bible basher' in school because I was a Christian and my dad was a vicar (for the record, I don't go around trying to convert people or anything like that, I just mention it if it comes up in conversation). Also when I told my uncle my boyfriend was going to be a vicar too, I joked I was surrounded by vicars and he replied that it's not good for me. What???
Although while that's certainly prejudice, I wasn't really discriminated from anything due to my religion.

Cure
03-01-2017, 05:44 PM
None that I can think of, even being Hispanic. But I grew up in the hood, also, where white people are the minority.

snake
03-01-2017, 05:53 PM
Nah. White dude here.

AT-Man
03-01-2017, 06:03 PM
I'm fat, so it's a big, fat YES.

CyberCubed
03-01-2017, 06:08 PM
None that I can think of, even being Hispanic. But I grew up in the hood, also, where white people are the minority.

So is the hood discriminatory against white people? For example if I showed up and started walking down the hood, would I get ganged up on?

plastroncafe
03-01-2017, 06:11 PM
Sexual harassment, mostly.

Prowler
03-01-2017, 06:17 PM
Sexual harassment, mostly.
At work place? have you been able to sue them for that? They say it's easy to sue people in the US of A.

Cure
03-01-2017, 06:17 PM
So is the hood discriminatory against white people? For example if I showed up and started walking down the hood, would I get ganged up on?

Nah, not really. You just have to mind your own business. Unless you really stood out and looked like you didn't belong, but that's true for anyone.

Prowler
03-01-2017, 06:22 PM
I once went into a more "hoodish" area. Not everyone in such places is a dangerous person. I guess it depends since some "hoods" are worse than others. Also you gotta make sure you don't look lost or intimidated, in order to avoid the locals knowing right off the bat "this guy ain't from here".

There's way worse places out there and I'd NEVER venture into those.

plastroncafe
03-01-2017, 06:23 PM
At work place? have you been able to sue them for that? They say it's easy to sue people in the US of A.

It's easy for people with money to sue here.
And yeah, while at work. Really kind of sucks, because unlike the sexual harassment I've gotten say...on the floor of a Con dealer room, I wasn't really able to defend myself.

Thankfully I've had no interaction with that co-worker again.

ProactiveMan
03-01-2017, 08:21 PM
I've been pressured into working overtime and not taking holidays because I'm single with no kids. I also think that the fact that I'm a non-drinker has hurt my career progression.

I've been sexually harassed before, in situations that I couldn't easily get out of, but it wasn't due to discrimination.

Prowler
03-01-2017, 09:03 PM
I've been pressured into working overtime and not taking holidays because I'm single with no kids. I also think that the fact that I'm a non-drinker has hurt my career progression.

I've been sexually harassed before, in situations that I couldn't easily get out of, but it wasn't due to discrimination.
Office jobs rely a lot on politics, socialising with co-workers and asskissing. Well I'm terrible and all of these things. I just don't like co-workers enough to hang out with them outside of work. I mean you see those people 5 days already. You eventually get tired of them.

DestronMirage22
03-01-2017, 10:36 PM
I'm hispanic, not in shape, and incredibly socially awkward IRL, and suprisingly haven't had any discriminatory problems. Guess blending in/not being noticed has it's ups after all. :ohwell:

ssjup81
03-02-2017, 12:45 AM
Nothing is fully coming to mind except for maybe two instances. My friend's friend and a work situation. The former is pretty silly and this may not fully count, the latter definitely could. The former I also don't take seriously.

Now, I have a friend (white). At the time he was sharing a home with two others. My other friend (Central American/Latino) and I used to call them Bob Sagat and Uncle Joey. I can't remember why now. Anyway, Bob Sagat was a bit on the racist side, or more so ignorant. I apparently wasn't bad for a "colored girl", meaning I wasn't ghetto and didn't speak in Ebonics. My friend would always apologize for the things he would say about blacks and latinos, which was tame compared to how he was when we weren't around him, but I was apparently an exception. He was actually concerned when the tsunami and earthquake hit here six years ago since I lived near that area. "Is your nice colored friend alright? I hope she's safe," was apparently said by him. So yeah, maybe ignorance, but karma is kind of sucky for some. He's gay, btw. His boyfriend left him for a black guy. Bob is now a churchgoer, says he's no longer racist, etc. Still funny. So yeah, this is more so indirect.

Back in 2007, I'd lost my job of two years (bad housing market was the main cause) so that meant job hunting again and schooling online. I was registered with a job agency and the job I was sent out on was a temp to hire position. One of the jobs was an office job. I went, had my laptop so that I could do homework, type papers, stuff like that. No internet access though. The workplace was 99% white. I was the 1%, meaning I was the only person of color there...literally. When I walked in to meet the manager (or the supervisor, I forget), her smile faded when realizing that I was the one she was meeting. She also looked puzzled as she reconfirmed my name twice.

Anyway, after three days, I was fired. Reason? For goofing off online/using the internet for inappropriate things. I didn't have my own cubicle nor did I have a work computer, and my laptop didn't have net access. Bottom line, they lied. I saw other employees playing Yahoo games and one I recall looking at WWE's site, and the supervisor was with me during that and those employees had worked there a few years.

Virginia is a right to work state. You can be fired for almost any reason, including no reason. So yeah, I chalked it up to them being prejudiced against non-whites and the reason I was even given a chance was probably because of my name sounding stereotypically white. Sounds straight up European, my full name.

Yet, despite the fact that I've been overweight the majority of my life, I've never been discriminated against for it.

Krutch
03-02-2017, 06:43 AM
Every time I have a random hookup, I need to take a moment to explain briefly explain the Hatchet-Man tattoo on my arm as a unwise decision of my youth before we move any further :roll:

Otherwise? Nah.

Storm Eagle
03-02-2017, 06:51 AM
Well, I'm also black. One significant experience of discrimination might have been when I was pulled over eight years ago for having a non-functioning brake light. The cop wasn't wrong to do that, but after he told me his reason for stopping me, he also asked me where I was going. I'm told that that's what the cops do nowadays, but the he also goes "all right, give me something". I was under the impression that he thought I might have had something I shouldn't have, such as a weapon, or any drugs. Some thing he was trying to trick me into bribing him. Then some time after making all that fuss, he told me that they're looking for someone who has a car that matches the description of the one I was driving. Of course, that's a classic line that cops use to cover their asses.

Long before that, I was also leaving a store that I had been in for a while, and two cops stopped me to check to see if I might have stolen anything. I was also followed around in a Waldenbooks store, and the guy made it so obvious. I regret not confronting him about that. I wouldn't have even gotten aggressive with him, but I'd have just told him that he should at least offer me help if he's going to follow me around the way he did. That's why as a minority, I get a little uneasy when I'm in a store and I get asked if I need any help.

I'm also male, and I might have also experienced discrimination in schools when I was younger, from female teachers. The seemed to treat the boys as though our successes would always be insignificant since we weren't girls.

Katie
03-02-2017, 07:06 AM
I've been passed over for promotions in favor of guys in my department even though I'm routinely called the best at my job, take on harder cases than they do, and come in earlier and stay later than they do. I've asked three levels of managers for feedback as to why I was passed over with no response. Only that I'm the best worker they have.

One guy just got promoted over me and he spends most of his time wandering around the office talking about his kids sports and routinely comes in an hour late and leaves an hour early. Then when he's behind on his work he "delegates" to me.

The kicker is they never post the promotion opportunities or take applicants for the positions. I'd call them on the violation of the EEOA, but all that would do is stigmatize me and I'd never advance again.

Krutch
03-02-2017, 07:35 AM
I've been passed over for promotions in favor of guys in my department even though I'm routinely called the best at my job, take on harder cases than they do, and come in earlier and stay later than they do. I've asked three levels of managers for feedback as to why I was passed over with no response. Only that I'm the best worker they have.I've experienced this personally, as well as seen it happen to others all too regularly. Sorry to hear.

Also reminds me; it's not exactly discrimination as much as it is nepotism, but when I'm promised a promotion one season to only have it then given to the executive producer's accountant's eighteen year old daughter who has no passing interest in the position in the first place, well... :x

ProactiveMan
03-02-2017, 10:47 AM
I've been passed over for promotions in favor of guys in my department even though I'm routinely called the best at my job, take on harder cases than they do, and come in earlier and stay later than they do. I've asked three levels of managers for feedback as to why I was passed over with no response. Only that I'm the best worker they have.

One guy just got promoted over me and he spends most of his time wandering around the office talking about his kids sports and routinely comes in an hour late and leaves an hour early. Then when he's behind on his work he "delegates" to me.

The kicker is they never post the promotion opportunities or take applicants for the positions. I'd call them on the violation of the EEOA, but all that would do is stigmatize me and I'd never advance again.

I've experienced this personally, as well as seen it happen to others all too regularly. Sorry to hear.

Also reminds me; it's not exactly discrimination as much as it is nepotism, but when I'm promised a promotion one season to only have it then given to the executive producer's accountant's eighteen year old daughter who has no passing interest in the position in the first place, well... :x

So much crooked BS goes on in business, and it's always a case of 'is it worth the inevitable poo-storm to complain about it'. Who the hell do you complain to anyway? HR are a bunch of corporate stooges. I don't want to discourage anyone from reporting harassment mind you, but I know people sometimes do so and don't get any support.

It's easy to think that workplace discrimination is getting better too, because companies can't stop talking about diversity and inclusiveness initiatives, but in my experience, they don't really understand the concept at its core. Diversity is just another buzzword to slap on a recruitment ad; it's something they want to be seen to be doing, more than a real concern.

I'll give you an example without going into too much detail. I'm working on some material to support International Women's Day with a couple of my colleagues. This is so important to their boss, that rather than work on any of it himself, he's palmed it off to a bunch of women in his department. He's got a communications manager, and a commercial sales manager organizing morning tea. This guy thinks he's doing the right thing, but he's just mindlessly checking boxes. He says he's committed to equality, while treating engineers, managers, and other professionals like an overqualified secretarial pool. (No offense to any admin - I think they are undervalued too).

Katie
03-02-2017, 11:30 AM
I've experienced this personally, as well as seen it happen to others all too regularly. Sorry to hear.

Also reminds me; it's not exactly discrimination as much as it is nepotism, but when I'm promised a promotion one season to only have it then given to the executive producer's accountant's eighteen year old daughter who has no passing interest in the position in the first place, well... :x

I've had that happen too. When I first started out, entry level girl been there about three years. Was again routinely told I was the best worker blah blah blah. I applied for the management training program and was told they only wanted people who wanted to be managers. WTF? I wouldn't have applied if I didn't want it. They gave the spot to a senator's son who had been with the company less than a year and who I was training.

Then I got moved to a headquarters because i had a certian "look". (Read: size 4 with DD boobs at that time) and the wanted me there. Once there i spent more time fetching coffee and snacks for the officers than doing my own job. I quit. I have 2 masters degrees. I'm not your toy.

Prowler
03-02-2017, 01:06 PM
Every time I have a random hookup, I need to take a moment to explain briefly explain the Hatchet-Man tattoo on my arm as a unwise decision of my youth before we move any further :roll:

Otherwise? Nah.
You were a gigolo?


I'm also male, and I might have also experienced discrimination in schools when I was younger, from female teachers. The seemed to treat the boys as though our successes would always be insignificant since we weren't girls.
That's weird. Is that a thing where you live? I don't recall discrimination against any gender at schools. OK they were more likely to forgive you talking in class if you were a girl, but I remember them being more likely to ask male students questions. Which sucked for me since I was a quiet kid.

I've been passed over for promotions in favor of guys in my department even though I'm routinely called the best at my job, take on harder cases than they do, and come in earlier and stay later than they do. I've asked three levels of managers for feedback as to why I was passed over with no response. Only that I'm the best worker they have.

One guy just got promoted over me and he spends most of his time wandering around the office talking about his kids sports and routinely comes in an hour late and leaves an hour early. Then when he's behind on his work he "delegates" to me.

The kicker is they never post the promotion opportunities or take applicants for the positions. I'd call them on the violation of the EEOA, but all that would do is stigmatize me and I'd never advance again.

I've experienced this personally, as well as seen it happen to others all too regularly. Sorry to hear.

Also reminds me; it's not exactly discrimination as much as it is nepotism, but when I'm promised a promotion one season to only have it then given to the executive producer's accountant's eighteen year old daughter who has no passing interest in the position in the first place, well... :x

Yeah, also if you're like 18-20 in your first ever job or at a 2-3 month unpaid intership(modern day slavery) they'll basically make you do all the boring s*it. And meanwhile, someone got fired so that a kid like you could get the 2-3 month internship, meaning they have to pay one less salary.

Even with labour unions and such, employers like to exploit workers. And people wonder why there are so many unmotivated and unproductive workers. :roll:

I've had that happen too. When I first started out, entry level girl been there about three years. Was again routinely told I was the best worker blah blah blah. I applied for the management training program and was told they only wanted people who wanted to be managers. WTF? I wouldn't have applied if I didn't want it. They gave the spot to a senator's son who had been with the company less than a year and who I was training.

Then I got moved to a headquarters because i had a certian "look". (Read: size 4 with DD boobs at that time) and the wanted me there. Once there i spent more time fetching coffee and snacks for the officers than doing my own job. I quit. I have 2 masters degrees. I'm not your toy.
Makes you wonder how those few women who get to the top na become CEOs and such manage to do so. All the BS they have to put up with.

CyberCubed
03-02-2017, 01:09 PM
Is it true that some bosses try to sleep with their female workers before giving them promotions? I see this in movies and TV shows all the time, does it happen in real life?

Prowler
03-02-2017, 01:12 PM
Is it true that some bosses try to sleep with their female workers before giving them promotions? I see this in movies and TV shows all the time, does it happen in real life?
lol

While i'm sure it happens I doubt it's as common as you'd see on TV. A boss won't just ask a female employee to sleep with him out of the blue. He'd risk getting sued.

At my first job one of the supervisors was having an affair with one of the female workers, but no idea if it involved promotions or not. Most likely just lust.

Krutch
03-02-2017, 01:48 PM
You were a gigolo?
Juggalo. Big difference :lol:

ssjup81
03-02-2017, 02:21 PM
Is it true that some bosses try to sleep with their female workers before giving them promotions? I see this in movies and TV shows all the time, does it happen in real life?Shockingly, I've been in this situation, but I wasn't going to get a promotion out of it. He was just a creepy dude who hit on his female employees.

CyberCubed
03-02-2017, 02:39 PM
It's been said around 70-80% of all female workers in the workplace suffer sexual harrassment from men. I'm shocked the number is so high, especially since most of these men are also married and are thus cheating on their wives.

I honestly wonder how many bosses sleep with their female workers, or vice versa, how many seductive women purposely flirt with their bosses to get raises or promotion.

DisKosh
03-02-2017, 03:15 PM
Back in 2007, I'd lost my job of two years (bad housing market was the main cause) so that meant job hunting again and schooling online. I was registered with a job agency and the job I was sent out on was a temp to hire position. One of the jobs was an office job. I went, had my laptop so that I could do homework, type papers, stuff like that. No internet access though. The workplace was 99% white. I was the 1%, meaning I was the only person of color there...literally. When I walked in to meet the manager (or the supervisor, I forget), her smile faded when realizing that I was the one she was meeting. She also looked puzzled as she reconfirmed my name twice.

Anyway, after three days, I was fired. Reason? For goofing off online/using the internet for inappropriate things. I didn't have my own cubicle nor did I have a work computer, and my laptop didn't have net access. Bottom line, they lied. I saw other employees playing Yahoo games and one I recall looking at WWE's site, and the supervisor was with me during that and those employees had worked there a few years.

Ugh, that's terrible! I hope you found another employer who valued your skills.

I've been passed over for promotions in favor of guys in my department even though I'm routinely called the best at my job, take on harder cases than they do, and come in earlier and stay later than they do. I've asked three levels of managers for feedback as to why I was passed over with no response. Only that I'm the best worker they have.

One guy just got promoted over me and he spends most of his time wandering around the office talking about his kids sports and routinely comes in an hour late and leaves an hour early. Then when he's behind on his work he "delegates" to me.

That guy sounds like a a$$hole. Sadly I know a guy a bit like that in my workplace only he's not my boss (in fact, salary is based on bands from lowest to highest, he's a band 1 and I'm a band 2), but he still fobs off his work on other people. He only gets away with it because he's close to management.

He's also made quite a few discriminatory comments like repeatedly referring to me as 'little girl' and one time when I asked him politely to turn the radio down so I could hear people, explaining that I have a condition that can make it harder to focus around too much noise, he just said I should get a new job. Another time he referred to a patient on a learning disability ward as 'simple' and said you just need to treat them like children.

He only gets away with it because he's close to management.

MsMarvelDuckie
03-02-2017, 06:26 PM
I have on occasion, due to my beliefs. Once I lost a job for unspecified reasons once it became known that I was Wiccan- it was at Hobby Lobby which apparently is very "Christian values" oriented. I've also had people try to convert me or "save" me when they learn of my particular faith. I also get asked to come to churches all the time, mainly by people who know what I am. While not discriminatory as such, it is somewhat offensive at times, especially from those who try to convince me I am "going to Hell" because I pray a different way than them. I've had a few who even thought I needed an exorcism! (Sorry, no I am not possessed by demons nor do I worship your god's arch-rival- the fact that mine is sometimes called "the Horned God" is merely an unfortunate misunderstanding by your ancestors, I assure you....)

Storm Eagle
03-02-2017, 06:35 PM
That's weird. Is that a thing where you live? I don't recall discrimination against any gender at schools. OK they were more likely to forgive you talking in class if you were a girl, but I remember them being more likely to ask male students questions. Which sucked for me since I was a quiet kid.



Actually, it was just the teachers that I had for third, fifth and sixth grade who came across that way. Showing favoritism and all that. Mind you, I had the same teacher for fifth and sixth grade, because at the school I was attending then, both classes were combined except for math and French class, where another teacher would teach French.

When I was in fifth grade, the teacher held this contest on Valentines Day where those who wore the most red would get some sort of prize. All the girls won, and no boys did. That's kind of BS since pretty much all girls' clothing comes in red.

I was taking a summer enrichment class after I finished seventh grade and was going to be in eighth grade soon. One day, the teacher that we had for a course had us do an assignment. Then she wanted to know who was finished with their work. She went and said that all the girls are finished, and had to say something about how girls mature faster than boys. I may not have been done with my work then, but it wasn't like I had been screwing around or anything. For all she knows, some boys might have already finished by then, and were just going over their work. You never know what's going on. So I don't think there was any need for her to shame us.

You said that where you're from, a girl is more likely to be excused for talking in class. That reminds me of how one of my friends told me about how she got to visit her son's kindergarten class. She said that all the kids were talkative, but the teacher only went after the boys for talking so much, and my friend said that the girls were talking just as much.

DisKosh
03-02-2017, 07:20 PM
It's very disheartening to hear so many people being fired from their workplaces due to their race or personal beliefs. This is the 21st century, legally employers should have to give a reason. While this approach isn't foolproof, it's would make it harder to fire someone for those reasons.

On another note, I remember how when I was a kid during 'wet play' (which sounds kind of dirty now I think about it but it actually just means it was raining outside), we had to stay indoors.
They split up the boys and girls with the boys playing lego and the girls colouring and talking. I enjoyed both so switched between the two. The boys and the teacher treated me like I didn't belong because I was a girl and the girls isolated me because they thought it was weird.
I don't know if it's still the case in schools, I sincerely hope not.

ssjup81
03-02-2017, 07:56 PM
It's very disheartening to hear so many people being fired from their workplaces due to their race or personal beliefs. This is the 21st century, legally employers should have to give a reason. While this approach isn't foolproof, it's would make it harder to fire someone for those reasons.

On another note, I remember how when I was a kid during 'wet play' (which sounds kind of dirty now I think about it but it actually just means it was raining outside), we had to stay indoors.
They split up the boys and girls with the boys playing lego and the girls colouring and talking. I enjoyed both so switched between the two. The boys and the teacher treated me like I didn't belong because I was a girl and the girls isolated me because they thought it was weird.
I don't know if it's still the case in schools, I sincerely hope not.In some places of the US, you must give a legitimate reason to fire an employee, unless you live in a "Right to work" state.

Prowler
03-02-2017, 08:48 PM
Juggalo. Big difference :lol:
Oops sorry :lol:

I have on occasion, due to my beliefs. Once I lost a job for unspecified reasons once it became known that I was Wiccan- it was at Hobby Lobby which apparently is very "Christian values" oriented. I've also had people try to convert me or "save" me when they learn of my particular faith. I also get asked to come to churches all the time, mainly by people who know what I am. While not discriminatory as such, it is somewhat offensive at times, especially from those who try to convince me I am "going to Hell" because I pray a different way than them. I've had a few who even thought I needed an exorcism! (Sorry, no I am not possessed by demons nor do I worship your god's arch-rival- the fact that mine is sometimes called "the Horned God" is merely an unfortunate misunderstanding by your ancestors, I assure you....)
I guess you live in a very religious area?

Actually, it was just the teachers that I had for third, fifth and sixth grade who came across that way. Showing favoritism and all that. Mind you, I had the same teacher for fifth and sixth grade, because at the school I was attending then, both classes were combined except for math and French class, where another teacher would teach French.

When I was in fifth grade, the teacher held this contest on Valentines Day where those who wore the most red would get some sort of prize. All the girls won, and no boys did. That's kind of BS since pretty much all girls' clothing comes in red.

I was taking a summer enrichment class after I finished seventh grade and was going to be in eighth grade soon. One day, the teacher that we had for a course had us do an assignment. Then she wanted to know who was finished with their work. She went and said that all the girls are finished, and had to say something about how girls mature faster than boys. I may not have been done with my work then, but it wasn't like I had been screwing around or anything. For all she knows, some boys might have already finished by then, and were just going over their work. You never know what's going on. So I don't think there was any need for her to shame us.

You said that where you're from, a girl is more likely to be excused for talking in class. That reminds me of how one of my friends told me about how she got to visit her son's kindergarten class. She said that all the kids were talkative, but the teacher only went after the boys for talking so much, and my friend said that the girls were talking just as much.
Well dunno if it's a general thing, but every school I've been to, teachers were more likely to ask a male than a female student questions if I remember correctly. Also, male students were way more likely to raise their hands and answer a question made to the whole class. Maybe because males in general are expected to be more assertive or something.

In some places of the US, you must give a legitimate reason to fire an employee, unless you live in a "Right to work" state.
I remember you mentioning that story of you getting fired before. That law sounds like something that only gives companies more power to abuse their workers.

MsMarvelDuckie
03-03-2017, 07:45 PM
Yup, I do. Rural Texas, smack in the middle of the Bible Belt. Mostly conservatives, particularly Southern Baptists. Lots of Catholics around here too, due to the large Latino population. And many of them are VERY supersticious. Especially when it comes to things like Tarot, or anything having to do with hexes or charms, poppets, and pentacles.

Prowler
03-03-2017, 07:50 PM
I've always wondered why there's so many outspokenly religious people and so many religious factions and cults in the Americas. Maybe because all of the different people there means everyone wants to feel their a part of something, whether it's a religious or cultural group?

Unrelated to your example but It's kinda odd/funny how so many people nowadays, even non-believers, hold superstitious beliefs. Some of them quite silly. And don't get me started on football supporters who really believe that their pre-match rituals such as wearing their "lucky boxers", "lucky scarves", or wtv, is gonna lead their team to victory. :tlol:

CyberCubed
03-03-2017, 07:53 PM
I've always wondered why there's so many outspokenly religious people and so many religious factions and cults in the Americas. l:

It's almost entirely Jesus Bible humpers and overly religious people down south. I don't care how religious you are, don't enforce your beliefs onto others and don't hate people who don't believe in the same thing you do.

They're basically like a cult, as you said. Some of them really are insane and think they're possessed by angels or demons or some other such nonsense.

Prowler
03-03-2017, 07:55 PM
It's almost entirely Jesus Bible humpers and overly religious people down south. I don't care how religious you are, don't enforce your beliefs onto others and don't hate people who don't believe in the same thing you do.

They're basically like a cult, as you said. Some of them really are insane and think they're possessed by angels or demons or some other such nonsense.
I said "in the Americas". Meaning both North America and Latin America. Lots of people in Latin American nations seem to be very religious as well.

It wasn't until Brazilian immigrants began "invading" Portugal that I began seeing "Evangelist churches" and "7th Day Adventist" places popping up. What is a 7th Day Adventist even?! :lol:

MsMarvelDuckie
03-03-2017, 08:01 PM
Despite what Cubed said it's NOT almost entirely super-religious foljs here in the South- YES, people are more serious about their religion, and many are very outspoken about their particular brand of Chritianity, but about half are of the garden variety average church-goers, or just on holidays. However there IS a very vocal minority that feel the need to "save" everyone else around them, especially if those others believe something different that they don't understand.

Prowler
03-03-2017, 08:09 PM
Don't sweat, I'm very well aware how rich Cubed's knowledge of the world is by now. :lol:

But yeah, don't get me wrong, there's definitely lots of very religious people in the Old Continent still, but it seems they're just less outspoken and in your face overall. Per example, I watch a lot of football, and it seems most Brazilian players and many other Latin American players in general, like to reference Jesus and God in their interviews or have it written on their underneath t-shirts "100% Jesus". I really don't see European players doing that nearly as much. It's like, it's sorta considered "rude" and "intrusive" to directly ask about someone's religious beliefs here.

CyberCubed
03-03-2017, 08:15 PM
Religion is also where all these people feel justified for being rude, nasty or downright villainous to people. They feel their religion justifies their actions, so if they kill someone they say, "God told me to do it."

Religion really is the worst. It also cause many to be racist and prejudice.

How do you think Trump got elected president? Literally all the racist and religious Christians voted for him to, "make America white again" and get all the Muslims and foreign people out of America. These are the type of people you're dealing with, especially the southern folk down south.

A shame really. In for a penny, in for a pound. What goes around comes around. Do onto others what you will have them do onto you.

Prowler
03-03-2017, 08:17 PM
Religion is also where all these people feel justified for being rude, nasty or downright villainous to people. They feel their religion justifies their actions, so if they kill someone they say, "God told me to do it."

Religion really is the worst. It also cause many to be racist and prejudice.

How do you think Trump got elected president? Literally all the racist and religious Christians voted for him to, "make America white again" and get all the Muslims and foreign people out of America. These are the type of people you're dealing with.

A shame really. In for a penny, in for a pound. What goes around comes around. Do onto others what you will have them do onto you.
I wouldn't go that far. Most religious people are normal everyday folk like you and me. See, that's the thing. Being religious or not is NOT what defines your character.

And I don't think it were just "racist Billy Bob hillbillies" voting for Trump at all.

MsMarvelDuckie
03-03-2017, 09:35 PM
Well he's HALF right on that one. Racist RICH hillbilly-Bobs and corporate grognards who want to go back to the days when they could chomp their cigars at their men's clubs in peace without all those women and gays and ethnic people trying to nose their way in. And all so they can feel superior and make tons of money that they just sit on and do nothing with, other than buy expensive crap like gold toilets. Or they are the poor racist hillbillies who think everyone else is out to take their jobs homes or women.

Prowler
03-03-2017, 09:40 PM
Well he's HALF right on that one. Racist RICH hillbilly-Bobs and corporate grognards who want to go back to the days when they could chomp their cigars at their men's clubs in peace without all those women and gays and ethnic people trying to nose their way in. And all so they can feel superior and make tons of money that they just sit on and do nothing with, other than buy expensive crap like gold toilets. Or they are the poor racist hillbillies who think everyone else is out to take their jobs homes or women.
I still think a lot more people who don't fit that description have voted for Trump than they're willing to admit. Form what I gather, Hillary was not a very sympathetic candidate... well neither was Trump, but Trump didn't have any stains on his political record since he had none before getting into office.

Anyway, most Americans didn't even bother voting.

MsMarvelDuckie
03-03-2017, 10:00 PM
I certainly did- and it wasn't for Trump that is for sure. But my point was the mindset of the people who DID vote for him. I live in a "Red State" where his sort of voters are the majority. I hear them talk all the time about how "bad" Hillary (and Obama) is, while blindly ignoring every cringe-worthy comment and social blunder from their "golden boy". It's disheartening to say the least. And most of them are from the older generations, or those too young to know better because they grew up in an age where fact-checking is too much work and politicians are automatically "bad" even when they really are not. So he won on a technicality based on misinformation and disillusionment. The religious right and the pro-gun, anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-immigration crowd.

Prowler
03-03-2017, 10:10 PM
I certainly did- and it wasn't for Trump that is for sure. But my point was the mindset of the people who DID vote for him. I live in a "Red State" where his sort of voters are the majority. I hear them talk all the time about how "bad" Hillary (and Obama) is, while blindly ignoring every cringe-worthy comment and social blunder from their "golden boy". It's disheartening to say the least. And most of them are from the older generations, or those too young to know better because they grew up in an age where fact-checking is too much work and politicians are automatically "bad" even when they really are not. So he won on a technicality based on misinformation and disillusionment. The religious right and the pro-gun, anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-immigration crowd.
I don't doubt that such people were a huge chunk of his voting base, but let's face it, the left wing can also be blamed for losing this election. It's not like Hillary was a nobody. She was a well known figure already and even the polls pointed to her winning easily.

Now allow me to go an tangent and say that politics have been disappointing people all over the Western world lately, and the more mainstreamish and the closest parties and politicians to the centre haven't been able to gain voters' trust. Many people look in shock and horror at European countries and ask themselves "why are a woman like Marine Le Pen and a guy like Geert Wilders getting more and more popular?". Traditional parties are a lot to blame for the economic issues here in the Old Continent lately. And I wouldn't be surprised if 3rd party candidates have been getting more votes and popularity in the US of A lately.

When people are desperate, they vote for certain people, no matter how shady they might be. Trump certainly has charisma, even though he is extremely rude and a flat out asshole.

That being said, people who thought Trump was anti-system... well a loaded as f*ck guy could never be that. He IS part of said system! :lol:

Oh and believe me, many people in Europe actually like Trump. Not saying it's the majority or anything, but I read news sites from several countries and other forums and many people from countries like Portugal, Spain, the UK and France seem to like Trump. An outspoken minority of people that is, but they're out there.

plastroncafe
03-03-2017, 11:31 PM
Anyway, most Americans didn't even bother voting.

This is inaccurate.
While only slightly more than 50% of Americans who could vote voted, around the quarter of those who didn't were kept from voting for one reason or another.

That's nowhere near the same thing as saying most Americans did not vote.

MsMarvelDuckie
03-03-2017, 11:38 PM
I don't doubt that such people were a huge chunk of his voting base, but let's face it, the left wing can also be blamed for losing this election. It's not like Hillary was a nobody. She was a well known figure already and even the polls pointed to her winning easily.

Now allow me to go an tangent and say that politics have been disappointing people all over the Western world lately, and the more mainstreamish and the closest parties and politicians to the centre haven't been able to gain voters' trust. Many people look in shock and horror at European countries and ask themselves "why are a woman like Marine Le Pen and a guy like Geert Wilders getting more and more popular?". Traditional parties are a lot to blame for the economic issues here in the Old Continent lately. And I wouldn't be surprised if 3rd party candidates have been getting more votes and popularity in the US of A lately.

When people are desperate, they vote for certain people, no matter how shady they might be. Trump certainly has charisma, even though he is extremely rude and a flat out asshole.

That being said, people who thought Trump was anti-system... well a loaded as f*ck guy could never be that. He IS part of said system! :lol:

Oh and believe me, many people in Europe actually like Trump. Not saying it's the majority or anything, but I read news sites from several countries and other forums and many people from countries like Portugal, Spain, the UK and France seem to like Trump. An outspoken minority of people that is, but they're out there.


No Hillary wasn't a nobody- that was part of the problem. People here like to paint her with the same brush as Bill and apparently it worked. Whether she was ever guilty of anything isn't even important- she was automatically guilty by association. And none of the other contenders had enough popularity or clout to really stand a chance. So Chump won by default- and you are right, he IS part of that system, and is one of the biggest movers and shakers in it to boot! I found it utterly disgusting the baldfaced lying and delusional thinking but many swallowed it hook line and sinker.

ssjup81
03-04-2017, 05:17 AM
I said "in the Americas". Meaning both North America and Latin America. Lots of people in Latin American nations seem to be very religious as well.

It wasn't until Brazilian immigrants began "invading" Portugal that I began seeing "Evangelist churches" and "7th Day Adventist" places popping up. What is a 7th Day Adventist even?! :lol:My mother grew up in a Seventh Day Adventist church and I went to one briefly when young. They just celebrate the Sabbath on a Saturday (like in the Jewish calendar)...think it's Protestant. They taught about the second coming of Jesus or something. The only thing I remember is that from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday you're supposedly to not do things like play cards and stuff (the looks I got from the other kids was of terror when I even remotely suggested it). Oh you're also not supposed to watch TV, play video games, and stuff on the Sabbath. The diet is also vegetarian/vegan and you're definitely not supposed to eat pork. Yeah, my mom didn't follow that. lol She quit it, like every other church she tried, because of the rules. We did go back to our old church, which was non-denominational, meaning it doesn't cater to one sect or whatever. No matter which branch you believe in, you're welcome to join.

That particular church helped my family. When I was 4, my parents were struggling. They'd just moved from New York to Virginia and stuff. The church gave us food. We were forever grateful, and back then, the church was super small. It grew over the years...but I haven't been back since I graduated high school and neither have my parents. ^^No Hillary wasn't a nobody- that was part of the problem. People here like to paint her with the same brush as Bill and apparently it worked. Whether she was ever guilty of anything isn't even important- she was automatically guilty by association. And none of the other contenders had enough popularity or clout to really stand a chance. So Chump won by default- and you are right, he IS part of that system, and is one of the biggest movers and shakers in it to boot! I found it utterly disgusting the baldfaced lying and delusional thinking but many swallowed it hook line and sinker.I still think Sanders would've done ok.

DisKosh
03-04-2017, 08:44 AM
Unrelated to your example but It's kinda odd/funny how so many people nowadays, even non-believers, hold superstitious beliefs. Some of them quite silly. And don't get me started on football supporters who really believe that their pre-match rituals such as wearing their "lucky boxers", "lucky scarves", or wtv, is gonna lead their team to victory. :tlol:

I think part of that is psychological. I don't leave the house without my ipod and if I go I feel very insecure. I know there's no logic to it but I just find it comforting and others may be the same with other objects like phones, or make-up.
In some ways they're like cuddle blankets and we never really grow up, we just change our security objects.

I wouldn't go that far. Most religious people are normal everyday folk like you and me. See, that's the thing. Being religious or not is NOT what defines your character.

Agreed. It's also important to remember that religion is influenced by culture and people interpret their religious texts in light of their culture. In a more liberal culture like e.g. some parts of the UK, you have very LGBT+ friendly places of worship and LGBT+ preachers where as if you go to more conservative parts of the US, some places of worship won't accept interrracial couples.
It's the culture that can make the difference.

ToTheNines
03-04-2017, 09:18 AM
Religion is also where all these people feel justified for being rude, nasty or downright villainous to people. They feel their religion justifies their actions, so if they kill someone they say, "God told me to do it."

Religion really is the worst. It also cause many to be racist and prejudice.

How do you think Trump got elected president? Literally all the racist and religious Christians voted for him to, "make America white again" and get all the Muslims and foreign people out of America. These are the type of people you're dealing with, especially the southern folk down south.

A shame really. In for a penny, in for a pound. What goes around comes around. Do onto others what you will have them do onto you.

You're such a fool. Who do you think all of these "racist and religious Christians" (said the racist "atheist" who doesn't believe in evolution) voted for in 2008 and 2012? Trump has payed some lip service to the various right-leaning demographics, but he's obviously not a man of God. He's a New York City shyster.

I'm sure you have no idea how the electoral college works, but to put it simply: only a few states decide the presidency each election. This year it was mainly PA and FL, IIRC. He took a lot of union worker D votes because they liked his retarded protectionist economy crap.

Also, looking at history, it seems we just like to switch between Republican and Democrat every couple of terms anyways.

Prowler
03-04-2017, 01:58 PM
This is inaccurate.
While only slightly more than 50% of Americans who could vote voted, around the quarter of those who didn't were kept from voting for one reason or another.

That's nowhere near the same thing as saying most Americans did not vote.
Kept from voting? By whom and what?

You're such a fool. Who do you think all of these "racist and religious Christians" (said the racist "atheist" who doesn't believe in evolution) voted for in 2008 and 2012? Trump has payed some lip service to the various right-leaning demographics, but he's obviously not a man of God. He's a New York City shyster.

I'm sure you have no idea how the electoral college works, but to put it simply: only a few states decide the presidency each election. This year it was mainly PA and FL, IIRC. He took a lot of union worker D votes because they liked his retarded protectionist economy crap.

Also, looking at history, it seems we just like to switch between Republican and Democrat every couple of terms anyways.
CyberCubed doesn't believe in evolution?

ToTheNines
03-04-2017, 02:15 PM
By work, and other life obligations. We had a whole crew of guys work a 20 hour day on election day and miss out. I almost didn't get back from a long job in Boston in time, and hadn't applied for an absentee ballot.

Prowler
03-04-2017, 02:23 PM
By work, and other life obligations. We had a whole crew of guys work a 20 hour day on election day and miss out. I almost didn't get back from a long job in Boston in time, and hadn't applied for an absentee ballot.
I didn't mean that, though. I thought plastron was saying some ballots weren't working properly due to system errors or that there was any error regarding voter IDs and such.

ToTheNines
03-04-2017, 02:37 PM
CyberCubed doesn't believe in evolution?

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=56312&page=2

I didn't mean that, though. I thought plastron was saying some ballots weren't working properly due to system errors or that there was any error regarding voter IDs and such.

Oh. Voter fraud/suppression. Sure.

Prowler
03-04-2017, 02:45 PM
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=56312&page=2



Oh. Voter fraud/suppression. Sure.
So he doesn't know that humans, albeit rational, are still animals? Didn't he get taught that in his, I dunno, first ever science class or something?