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Ninjinister
03-03-2017, 01:57 AM
Well, probably the biggest news in a while was dropped today; 2018 brings a new 2D animated TMNT series, Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

There's very little information on the content (which if you haven't seen yet, and want to read up, there's a topic in the Nicktoon subforum), and literally ZERO toy announcements, but I was thinking about how the toys will go. You know they're obviously going to have toys.

It's a pretty safe bet that Playmates will still have their tentacles on this. And par for the course, the first wave or two will probably start out pretty cool and then quickly diminish into 5 or less PoA underpainted lumps of plastic. I'd love to be wrong though on the latter! I don't want terrible figures!

Megabloks, if they're still under contract, will probably have Rise toys. That'd be neat. Minimates, too, if that still is a thing they'll be doing by then.

My hopes are that all non-Nick lines like stuff based on the '87 series and movies will continue as-is. Especially with Playmates' stuff... I don't want to see them re-re-re-re-re-release the bloody 88 figures AGAIN. Gotta wonder if they'll do more of them there wrestlin' Turtles but with the new Rise designs.

Ooh! I'd also hope to see the Rise characters mix into Heroclix!

Wildcat
03-03-2017, 02:40 AM
It's all about paint jobs/show accuracy for me. I don't really care about scale or or articulation (unless it's some collector type figure)

Having nothing to base the designs on who knows. Judging by the current Nick stuff I'm not very optimistic about them.

Raptor86
03-03-2017, 02:55 AM
I guess all the effort will be on the first wave, than 5 POA crap

Candy Kappa
03-03-2017, 03:31 AM
It'll be business as usual

Huzzah
03-03-2017, 07:43 AM
The first wave will be good probably, gotta have a decent base for the eventual never ending Turtles Variants.

EddieNES
03-03-2017, 10:19 AM
I just hope Donatellos tooth gap and booyakasha get left behind.

Not feeling the mystic city part, but excited to see the art and toys. Probably just going to get what I like this time around.

RaphaelinSTL
03-03-2017, 11:36 AM
I just hope Donatellos tooth gap and booyakasha get left behind.

Not feeling the mystic city part, but excited to see the art and toys. Probably just going to get what I like this time around.

Yeah, I hope it's little more streamlined design wise...and while I never really hated the 2012 look aside from the goofy gap...I know that cartoon designs these days aren't well...subtle at all.

I think how they would've looked in that dropped 2001 series would do just fine...

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3481/4090237024_198c1e30f2_z.jpg

...but sadly, I know the press release said they're going for a "younger" vibe.

Andrew NDB
03-03-2017, 12:38 PM
I speculate there will be a lot, and a lot of 4 year-olds will be happy and a lot of cranky 30, 40 year-old collectors will be cranky, as always.

Ninjinister
03-03-2017, 12:54 PM
I speculate there will be a lot, and a lot of 4 year-olds will be happy and a lot of cranky 30, 40 year-old collectors will be cranky, as always.

I dunno... my cousins and friends' kids are in the 3-7 range and they're bothered more by lack of articulation than most adults. If their elbows and knees don't move, they think it's "dumb". Granted, that's a small sample size... but it's the only one I've got so I've got to run with this data.

I did feel the same way as a lad, though. The characters in perma-crouch like Shredder and Foot Soldier were tough to get to stand or pose... all of the lack of knee joints made it tough to get do fights the way we all wanted, and the fact that characters like Traag and Muckman had unpainted deets made me a tiny bit sad. That's not to say I didn't love the f**k out of the back then... I just had tiny complaints.

Huzzah
03-03-2017, 06:16 PM
I speculate there will be a lot, and a lot of 4 year-olds will be happy and a lot of cranky 30, 40 year-old collectors will be cranky, as always.

What? Never, middle aged collectors are so easy to please...

That said, I really enjoyed the line early on, paint details lacking never really bothered me since I repaint most everything. I didn't become disgruntled until they quit releasing new characters, depending on Turtle Variants...though scale issues did kind of bug me.

snake
03-03-2017, 07:59 PM
I'm thinking a more kiddy line between what we have now and HSH, just going off my mental picture of the designs.

DestronMirage22
03-03-2017, 08:41 PM
What's there to be expected? We know Playmates' track record. They'll just keep on producing the same level of trash as they always have.

Freeman
03-03-2017, 08:56 PM
I'll be most certainly getting the first wave of whatever it comes unless they are too childish of unbareablely ugly.
We could also wish for Paymates loosing this IP...

Ninjinister
03-03-2017, 11:03 PM
What does everyone think about the other companies' potential Rise offerings? Revoltech maybe? Ooh I'd love for Bandai to do Sprukits. Even though they're models and as sparsely painted as Playmates' stuff I love finally having Turtles in 3.75" scale.

I mean we have no info right now so let's go wild with speculation 'til we do! We already have enough "Playmates sucks" topics as is :lol:

Candy Kappa
03-11-2017, 01:38 PM
Imports like Kaiyodo, Good Smile and Bandai is a tough call to speculate on. Depends on how the show is doing and the designs.

I doubt we'll see more new Revoltech figure, though. The re-release was just sheer luck since they where voted by the fans to be a part of a roster of 10 figures that would get the 10th Anniversary re-release.

TurtleWA
02-01-2018, 11:01 AM
I am interested in seeing how the new toys will stand. The 2012 Turtles easily stood with their big feet. But these new designs already have me thinking about the trouble of standing up vintage figures. In the new design April looks to be falling backwards.

TurtleWA
02-01-2018, 12:34 PM
I think I just heard them say during the live reveal that Donnie will have interchangeably battle shells that he created bc heís a soft shell. One shell will have a personality. Sounds like a lot of toy potential to me.

useasneeded4pain
02-01-2018, 12:41 PM
I watched maybe 10 minutes of the Facebook reveal, it was all I could take. The female "expert" playing trivia with Andre was horrible, and didn't know things such as Baxter Stockman or the Technodrome.

Raph looks a lot like an animated version of the 2014 movie.

DonnieLaForge
02-01-2018, 12:46 PM
Knowing how Playmates had a few fumbles last time with matching up the toys to the art, and now amplifying that because of how weird the proportions seem to be on these designs (not to mention the blockiness) I'm skeptical the figures will be a very good match...

EddieNES
02-01-2018, 01:08 PM
I think I just heard them say during the live reveal that Donnie will have interchangeably battle shells that he created bc heís a soft shell. One shell will have a personality. Sounds like a lot of toy potential to me.

That sounds terrible to me lol

TurtleWA
02-01-2018, 01:15 PM
That sounds terrible to me lol

I just imagining separate packs of just shells that are for sale. And they all fit on Donnie.

EddieNES
02-01-2018, 01:18 PM
I just imagining separate packs of just shells that are for sale. And they all fit on Donnie.

Just to make it clear, your idea for toy ideas wasnít terrible. I just donít like the swap smart shell thing.

Iíll take any toy though. Especially Don.

TurtleWA
02-01-2018, 01:28 PM
Just to make it clear, your idea for toy ideas wasnít terrible. I just donít like the swap smart shell thing.

Iíll take any toy though. Especially Don.

Yeah I like Don too. Iím excited to see what will happen with the toys.

Candy Kappa
02-01-2018, 02:47 PM
Hmm, maybe those removable shell figures was a foreshadowing of future Donnie toy gimmicks? :lol:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/1b/ae/0e/1bae0e8a7f8e55616369d06adf7dbc58.jpg

wpugh2424
02-01-2018, 03:00 PM
During the live stream did they happen to give estimates on toy release ?

TurtleWA
02-01-2018, 03:10 PM
Hmm, maybe those removable shell figures was a foreshadowing of future Donnie toy gimmicks? :lol:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/1b/ae/0e/1bae0e8a7f8e55616369d06adf7dbc58.jpg
Good catch. :tsmile:

During the live stream did they happen to give estimates on toy release ?

Nothing that I picked up on.

inaheap
02-01-2018, 03:36 PM
Knowing how Playmates had a few fumbles last time with matching up the toys to the art, and now amplifying that because of how weird the proportions seem to be on these designs (not to mention the blockiness) I'm skeptical the figures will be a very good match...

I kinda hope your right. I'm not sure I want figures that look exactly like the art work revealed. Plus some of my favorite figures are the original basic release from the nick line.

Reputator
02-01-2018, 03:47 PM
Given the new designs, I don't think I'll worry about collecting any toys based on the new show.

DonnieLaForge
02-01-2018, 09:23 PM
I'm 100% in for the four turtles no matter what. Gotta keep the lineage complete... Probably all of wave 1 so long as it sticks to the mainstays.

People, heed my warning, it's the first-wave turtles from the failed shows that end up raking in the $$$ cuz everyone poo-poos them and leaves them at the store to be hauled to the dump and before we know it we all want them for completion but it's too late! eBay got yer number then!

TurtleWA
02-01-2018, 09:50 PM
I'm 100% in for the four turtles no matter what. Gotta keep the lineage complete... Probably all of wave 1 so long as it sticks to the mainstays.

People, heed my warning, it's the first-wave turtles from the failed shows that end up raking in the $$$ cuz everyone poo-poos them and leaves them at the store to be hauled to the dump and before we know it we all want them for completion but it's too late! eBay got yer number then!

Iím thinking about this time around only collecting the non-turtle figures. Like April, Splinter and so forth. I donít need 100 turtle variants. Iíll stick to the 20 non-turtles that get produced. Or at least being very selective with the actual turtle figs I pick up. But canít know for sure until I see the show and see the toys. Iíll pick me up an Iron-Man Donnie though. :lol:

Jester
02-01-2018, 09:53 PM
I went to Playmatestoys.com to see if they updated their site after the design reveal....and then I noticed this:
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27459606_586465202782_3783514561910916247_n.jpg?oh =86cf7358c199e5837eeef374d280210c&oe=5AE2993B

Autbot_Benz
02-02-2018, 12:34 AM
I went to Playmatestoys.com to see if they updated their site after the design reveal....and then I noticed this:
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27459606_586465202782_3783514561910916247_n.jpg?oh =86cf7358c199e5837eeef374d280210c&oe=5AE2993B

Don't worry Pixel Dan did say Playmates are showing the Rise figures at Toy Fair this month

SS Kakarot
02-02-2018, 05:01 AM
Someone on Twitter mentioned that they toys were shown at Toy Fair in London last week, but it was not allowed to take pictures.

I'm sure Playmates will have the Rise toys during Toy Fair in New York.

Powder
02-02-2018, 05:15 AM
Huh! Surprised there wasn't a leak, if so. Looking forward to these, if only for the 4 turtles. I hope the style comes across.

Jester
02-02-2018, 05:52 AM
Yeah, wishful thinking on my part to think they'd have any news...or that they weren't making the toys anymore.

DonnieLaForge
02-02-2018, 09:47 AM
I’m thinking about this time around only collecting the non-turtle figures. Like April, Splinter and so forth. I don’t need 100 turtle variants. I’ll stick to the 20 non-turtles that get produced. Or at least being very selective with the actual turtle figs I pick up. But can’t know for sure until I see the show and see the toys. I’ll pick me up an Iron-Man Donnie though. :lol:

I only meant I was 100% in for the initial release of the turtles.

That's actually how I started out with 2012 ... resolved to buy first 4 turtles, all the non-turtles, and no variants (well, only Donnie variants). But I caved on the variants after I let the series draw me in and realized it was pretty good.

Antnee13420
02-02-2018, 11:51 AM
http://www.comicsbeat.com/rise-of-the-tmnt-character-designs-unveiled/


Found this. Personally I hate the new design. I really hope this is not accurate info.

Candy Kappa
02-02-2018, 11:55 AM
http://www.comicsbeat.com/rise-of-the-tmnt-character-designs-unveiled/


Found this. Personally I hate the new design. I really hope this is not accurate info.

You're late to the party, it's real, it's official and it's been discussed in several threads

The Purple Dragon
02-02-2018, 02:38 PM
Knowing playmate I coued see they did a repaint of the bay turtles with some small changes:twink:

Andrew NDB
02-02-2018, 02:48 PM
Still, weird that they would remove TMNT from "Our brands." I mean, what, are they not even selling 2012 TMNT toys anymore?

CyberCubed
02-02-2018, 03:24 PM
Would be interesting if Nick decided to cut ties with Playmates, and it would make sense at a time where they're about to relaunch a new TMNT series. I don't think they will, but if now was the time, it's as good as any.

Andrew NDB
02-02-2018, 03:38 PM
Would be interesting if Nick decided to cut ties with Playmates, and it would make sense at a time where they're about to relaunch a new TMNT series. I don't think they will, but if now was the time, it's as good as any.

There is probably some mutual finger-pointing at each other between Nickelodeon and Playmates. From Playmates to Nick that the quality of their show led to toy sales decline, from Nick to Playmates that their toys were sucky and costing them viewers. The last two seasons or so of TMNT 2012 took a pretty enormous hit in the ratings... I can only imagine what the toy numbers were.

lilmotto
02-02-2018, 04:03 PM
This is going to be one of the worst TMNT series to date. Ugly Splinter. Odd character design and weird voice cast.

TurtleWA
02-02-2018, 04:23 PM
Yeah with the new show not resembling the Ď87 show as much as 2012 did Iím not sure Playmates can count on a lot of nostalgic toy purchases either. And a lot of people might have gotten that out of their system in the last five years and are now fine walking past the toy aisle. Only time will tell.

mikeyatemypizza
02-02-2018, 05:33 PM
So easy to walk past toy isles nowadays, since all the good characters are swooped up by staff scalpers. Make more money selling short packs than they get Stocking shelves.

leolao
02-02-2018, 06:02 PM
I went to Playmatestoys.com to see if they updated their site after the design reveal....and then I noticed this:
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27459606_586465202782_3783514561910916247_n.jpg?oh =86cf7358c199e5837eeef374d280210c&oe=5AE2993B

I contacted Playmates and they said that they are still making TMNT toys only for the Nick Reboot, No plans for Classics, old movies or Fred Wolf show so for the old fans we have NECA and hopefully BANDAI.

IndigoErth
02-02-2018, 06:32 PM
Oh yeah... That Splinter figure would be interesting to see. :teek: Didn't think much could make the unappealing PD version look almost okay, but geezus.

He's like some ancient mole rat that's just come out of a 20 year hibernation. But gorged on junk food during semi-lucid moments.



If there is one cute enough, I imagine I might at least own one figure of my fave for posterity, unless these figures are horrible and/or I'm too resentful at what 'Rise' does with him.

DonnieLaForge
02-02-2018, 07:50 PM
Splinter's look tells me he's probably going to be a bit of a jokester, amd feisty, which will be humorous because of his stature...kind of like when Yoda kicks it into high gear, but then later on in life acts intentionally like he has gone batty...but both at the same time.

Candy Kappa
02-03-2018, 07:15 AM
I'm interested in seeing how they do gimmick figures, like Mikey can tuck completely inside his shell, Donnie's shell armor, Raph being huge... maybe a power punch feature like vintage He-Man and Leo... I donno, cutting action feature?

I Crave Pizza No More
02-03-2018, 07:26 AM
Zero interest in the toys for me. That's in part because of where I am at this stage of my life, but mostly because I find the designs to be horrendous. Pretty much as offensive as the Bay designs, frankly.

Plasticplayhouse
02-03-2018, 08:57 AM
the animation style reminds me of Andy Kuhn tmnt, but not as good. I agree, splinter is hideous.

ProactiveMan
02-09-2018, 09:24 AM
I'm interested to see the first wave because if history is any indicator, the figures may not resemble the final character designs.

dragonside
02-09-2018, 11:18 AM
if this is anything like teen titans go, they have some decent funko pops.

now would Playmates make some decent figures with these designs.

EHHH in terms of little details - there's a lot. Playmates is good with very streamlined simple designs, like the TMNT 2012. If you guys remember their version of the 2014 movie - while not that bad, it was lacking of a lot of the really nice details.

Playmates also does not care about scale, so having four completely different designs. This series has to make a lot of money in order for them to even attempt.

I'd prefer to see a different toy maker tackle this new series.

TurtleWA
02-09-2018, 01:14 PM
if this is anything like teen titans go, they have some decent funko pops.

now would Playmates make some decent figures with these designs.

EHHH in terms of little details - there's a lot. Playmates is good with very streamlined simple designs, like the TMNT 2012. If you guys remember their version of the 2014 movie - while not that bad, it was lacking of a lot of the really nice details.

Playmates also does not care about scale, so having four completely different designs. This series has to make a lot of money in order for them to even attempt.

I'd prefer to see a different toy maker tackle this new series.

Yes I think Playmates has a challenge ahead of them. Playmates is known for not releasing all four turtles as well. Such as disguise turtles for the movie had no Don. And the tv series had giant turtle mutations but only Raph and Leo got released.

So I could see a lot of series releases not having all four turtles. For example, If they do Head droppiní turtles maybe no Don. If they do Storage/battle shell turtles perhaps no Raph. And maybe only Mikey and Leo for mutating pet-ninja turtle.

Ninjinister
02-09-2018, 01:26 PM
if this is anything like teen titans go, they have some decent funko pops.


We only ever got 87 series Pops though. No Mirage, no movies, no 2012... Just 87 and "pixelated" 87 to rep the games I guess?

TurtleWA
02-11-2018, 02:12 AM
https://s9.postimg.org/lsm7l1z73/2_D2_C7_DD9-_D295-4259-9084-8_FA0_AA93_E8_B1.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/5hm3oqmp7/)

https://playmatestoys.com

***First of Two Latin Kings***
02-11-2018, 08:01 AM
Yes I think Playmates has a challenge ahead of them. Playmates is known for not releasing all four turtles as well. Such as disguise turtles for the movie had no Don. And the tv series had giant turtle mutations but only Raph and Leo got released.

So I could see a lot of series releases not having all four turtles. For example, If they do Head droppiní turtles maybe no Don. If they do Storage/battle shell turtles perhaps no Raph. And maybe only Mikey and Leo for mutating pet-ninja turtle.

It is likely that Leo and Raph will remain tied for most popular turtle with the kids, with Mikey coming in close and Don't remaining least popular.

zaktheneutrino
02-11-2018, 09:26 AM
Iím in the minority as I think these designs could make for some cool looking figures! Iím not wild about Splinter, hate the April design, but I think the turtles look pretty neat.

Time will tell but if the writers go an Ultimate Spider-Man direction where thereís a lot of humor yet serious villains and some fun action, this could be good. A Spider Verse like arc would be interesting too where we see not just a crossover but the other turtle universes.

dragonside
02-11-2018, 10:22 AM
https://s9.postimg.org/lsm7l1z73/2_D2_C7_DD9-_D295-4259-9084-8_FA0_AA93_E8_B1.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/5hm3oqmp7/)

https://playmatestoys.com


there it is. okay Playmates. Hope they put in a good effort on the quality.

tipet
02-11-2018, 01:06 PM
Iím in the minority as I think these designs could make for some cool looking figures! Iím not wild about Splinter, hate the April design, but I think the turtles look pretty neat.

Time will tell but if the writers go an Ultimate Spider-Man direction where thereís a lot of humor yet serious villains and some fun action, this could be good. A Spider Verse like arc would be interesting too where we see not just a crossover but the other turtle universes.

Yes, the figures will be cool think. I've seen the new Ben 10 figures and they are great. I hope Playmates goes in the same direction.

Spidergreg
02-13-2018, 02:17 AM
The first TMNT license came in the form of a role-playing game by Palladium, followed by miniatures from Dark Horse. Within a year, First Comics began to reprint the early issues in color volumes; four were produced, stopping at issue 11. These sold well, and Eastman and Laird were soon contacted by Mark Freedman, a licensing agent who believed he could make something of the Turtles. Freedman took the idea to a variety of toy companies, only to be turned down by those who felt the concept was not popular enough to support a toy line. Only one company expressed interest, a little-known California company by the name of Playmates.

History (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_action_figures)


All you guys sheeting on playmates should feel sorry for yourselves 'cos only playmates gave TMNT a chance at the time.
Basically, playmates created the nostalgia feeling of TMNT toys.....
for me at least.

Powder
02-13-2018, 02:38 AM
Yeah, & Charles Manson wrote nice songs before he formed a psychedelic death cult. Things change. :tlol:

Ninjinister
02-13-2018, 03:24 AM
should feel sorry for yourselves

How about no?