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Cyndaquilfan123
03-06-2017, 09:53 PM
With a new show on the horizon, I'm thinking there could be a new movie coming up as well. What do you guys think?

Autbot_Benz
03-06-2017, 09:57 PM
nah after how much of a box office failure OOTS was I think TMNT movies are on the shelf for a while.

Andrew NDB
03-06-2017, 10:07 PM
2 1/2 year moratorium. Then about that time we'll start hearing rumblings about Paramount hiring some production studio. 2 years after that we'll see it (or you guys will, at least). 4 1/2 years, I wager.

dragonside
03-06-2017, 10:30 PM
Well with the new cartoon coming in 2018, I imagine they would want to time it during that year to announce and release in 2019.

Based on the no break, just keep rebooting spectrum.


Now I feel like the platinum dunes movies had unused potential to crossover with transformers + GI Joe, but now that is dead.

I hope a they can either focus on animated movies or just get a director who wants the dark gritty Judge Dredd or Sin City vibe.

Hell, I'll even accept a netflix only series.

Powder
03-06-2017, 10:42 PM
2-5 years easily. Andrew's probably on the money.

CyberCubed
03-06-2017, 11:32 PM
A long time. Relaunching a movie franchise is a lot harder than a cartoon, and Paramount won't want to take another loss. They'll be a lot more conservative before they greenlit another movie.

snake
03-07-2017, 05:30 AM
2022 is my prediction, as long as the new cartoon succeeds.

ToTheNines
03-07-2017, 06:44 AM
Hopefully never. But probably 2020 or shortly after.

Shark_Blade
03-07-2017, 07:19 AM
They have a moneymaker in their hands, they won't let it sit for too long now. :D

sgtfbomb
03-07-2017, 10:50 AM
I am going to guess sometime in the 2020s, probably towards the middle, and that's not counting any Made for DVD films, though I don't imagine those happening either.

I'd say that if a film happens sooner, either in 2019 or the early 2020s, it will probably be Paramount attempting a third film or loose reboot of the PD Turtles. That doesn't seem probable at this point either, but it's still possible.

Paramount doesn't have a whole lot of useful IPs at the moment. TMNT just bombed. Their attempt to take claim of the Terminator franchise blew up in their face (making it the third time someone has tried to reboot the series and promising more films with no success). The Ring reboot didn't do much. They lost the distribution for any new Indiana Jones films. The GI: Joe franchise wasn't very good and we haven't seen an entry in years and it seems like the only saving grace is a film linked to Transformers. They are doing nothing with Friday the 13th and while before Star Trek Beyond was released, there was talk of another film, they've been quite silent on it. So, they Transformers (ugh!) and Mission: Impossible.

Brand name IPs is a big deal for studios these days. Disney does it well. Universal and Warner Bros. are kind of okay with it. Fox and Paramount stumble quite a bit.

Vicky82
03-07-2017, 11:09 AM
With the new show starting in 2018 and if it does well, I would say we could get a reboot movie between 2020 and 2022.

ProphetofGanja
03-07-2017, 02:45 PM
2-5 years easily. Andrew's probably on the money.

Yup, I'd bet money on that timeframe

A long time. Relaunching a movie franchise is a lot harder than a cartoon, and Paramount won't want to take another loss. They'll be a lot more conservative before they greenlit another movie.

We can only hope

Hopefully never. But probably 2020 or shortly after.

C'mon, never say never! A good TMNT movie really shouldn't be that hard to do. But like others said, I'd be totally down with an adult-oriented miniseries, either live action or animated. I never understood why they keep gearing this property towards children, the Turtles are teenagers for Christ's sake. Teenagers are on the cusp of becoming adults, that's literally their whole deal. Teenagers are not usually the kind of people you want children exposed to in large doses or without adult supervision

They have a moneymaker in their hands, they won't let it sit for too long now. :D

How's that Riverdale series?

Andrew NDB
03-07-2017, 03:13 PM
With the new show starting in 2018 and if it does well, I would say we could get a reboot movie between 2020 and 2022.

The success or failure of a new cartoon will have 0 bearing on them making a new movie.

RaphaelsIsolation
03-15-2017, 12:53 AM
The 2nd movies didn't loose money people. I see that it is estimated to made over 100 million dollars worldwide over budget.

I mean it wasn't nearly as successful as the 1st Bay movie, but lets not kid ourselves here.

The movie made money, just not greedy money.

Candy Kappa
03-15-2017, 01:40 AM
The 2nd movies didn't loose money people. I see that it is estimated to made over 100 million dollars worldwide over budget.

I mean it wasn't nearly as successful as the 1st Bay movie, but lets not kid ourselves here.

The movie made money, just not greedy money.

A movie gotta least make double it's budget back to break even, so no. OotS did not make money with a budget on $135 million and made a box office on $245.6 million.

RaphaelsIsolation
03-15-2017, 10:20 AM
Hmm, doesn't a "budget" imply salaries, advertising etc?

I mean how does 100 million difference in budget to revenue just vanish?

What am I missing?

ToTheNines
03-15-2017, 10:38 AM
There's a production budget, which is always publicized, and marketing budget. For whatever reason, you rarely hear about the marketing budget unless they're doing some big super bowl ad or something outlandish.

Viacom's CEO even admitted that it bombed, and lumped it in with Zoolander 2:

“They under-performed dramatically,” Dooley said. “Those films had losses that were outsized and really created the hole in the bucket that we’ve seen.”

Paramount lost 445 million last year, with Out of the Shadows being a big contributer to that.

Source: http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-viacom-earnings-paramount-20161108-story,amp.html

RaphaelsIsolation
03-15-2017, 10:44 AM
Right, but the marketing budget for this movie wasn't 100 million.

They made money on the 2nd movie. I hate that people act like it "bombed" and all this. Yeah it underperformed. It still made money.

ToTheNines
03-15-2017, 10:49 AM
Check my edited post.

NinjaPug
03-15-2017, 11:05 AM
Production budget was $135 million

Worldwide box office was $246 million. The studio gets roughly half of that - $123 million.

That's already a $12 million loss without accounting for the marketing budget. Marketing isn't included in the production budget.

The movie bombed.

Andrew NDB
03-15-2017, 11:15 AM
Production budget was $135 million

Worldwide box office was $246 million. The studio gets roughly half of that - $123 million.

That's already a $12 million loss without accounting for the marketing budget. Marketing isn't included in the production budget.

The movie bombed.

Saved me some calories there. Yes, it bombed hard.

Krutch
03-15-2017, 12:25 PM
Close to 10 years, I'd bet. Unless a bankable director actually approaches them with a vision of course.

TigerClaw
03-15-2017, 06:24 PM
Close to 10 years, I'd bet. Unless a bankable director actually approaches them with a vision of course.
or writers who understands TMNT, and the studio not interfering with how the movie should be.

Jephael
03-15-2017, 11:02 PM
After the train-wreck of a film reboot we got previously no thanks to Michael Bay, they're hopefully going to take their time and look for the right person to helm the next movie adaptation. I'd say hold out for the likes of Steven Spielberg. I know it's a pipe dream, but you never know. He might take the TMNT into a direction we never dreamed of before.

d_osborn
03-15-2017, 11:53 PM
I think it'll be faster than most are anticipating. Cross your fingers and toes that the success of Logan convinces Paramount to grow a pair and make something less childish. I don't see it happening, but eh-- a guy can wish.

pferreira
03-16-2017, 09:24 AM
Saved me some calories there. Yes, it bombed hard.It didn't bomb hard, you just wanted it to bomb hard. There's tons of movies that have done worse at the Box Office. :roll:

Powder
03-16-2017, 09:45 AM
Stop trying to argue facts, guy. It's even been confirmed by the powers that be. Don't let your bias make a fool of you.

sgtfbomb
03-16-2017, 10:06 AM
I think it'll be faster than most are anticipating. Cross your fingers and toes that the success of Logan convinces Paramount to grow a pair and make something less childish. I don't see it happening, but eh-- a guy can wish.

I think TMNT film rights will have to be sold again before a more serious or even just a better one will be made.

My interest was piqued when Legendary Pictures was allegedly going to make a TMNT film but that years and years ago. Their output was a little better then, as well.

I was really upset the day I learned Platinum Dunes got to put their hands into the TMNT movie cookie jar. I am not sure I have seen a movie produced by them that I have actually liked. Their horror remakes are bland as all get out and most of the time are flat out terrible. They even pitched a Halloween film and my head nearly exploded (granted, what Rob Zombie did was just as bad, if not worse.) And, of course, there is Michael Bay, who even as a director makes films that are essentially Abercrombie & Fitch mixed with blatant sexism mixed with junior high-level humor and topped off with over the top action that you can barely see because the damn sun is in your eyes and the camera won't stop freaking moving...

ToTheNines
03-16-2017, 10:07 AM
It didn't bomb hard, you just wanted it to bomb hard. There's tons of movies that have done worse at the Box Office. :roll:

Lick it up: http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-viacom-earnings-paramount-20161108-story,amp.html

Question: do you ever log in for any reason other than to blindly kiss Fred Wolf ass and/or start idiotic baby fights with neatoman?

NinjaPug
03-16-2017, 10:58 AM
Even if you ignore the numbers that clearly show it bombing hard, the fact that Platinum Dunes acknowledged there wouldn't be a third movie almost immediately after release should tell you just how poorly it did.