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k_lala
03-16-2017, 02:25 PM
Hey, if you had to introduce the series to someone who's never watch the show before. And you had to give him ONE episode to watch, to give him an idea of what the show was about what would it be and why?

ABrown
03-16-2017, 02:29 PM
Given the storybook nature of the series, I think pretty much the only episode that you can show is the first one. It wasn't a very episodic show like the first cartoon was.

CyberCubed
03-16-2017, 02:35 PM
The first episode. Literally that episode alone should be enough to get people interested.

FredWolfLeonardo
03-16-2017, 02:37 PM
If it was someone who's never seen the show before but is a tmnt fan, Id show them turtles forever. Otherwise, the first episode.

Powder
03-16-2017, 02:43 PM
I can't see why you'd pick anything but the first...

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
03-16-2017, 03:21 PM
If not the first episode, "Hun on the Run." It prominently features Bishop and Hun, the two good 4Kids originals.

ToTheNines
03-16-2017, 03:31 PM
If they were a Mirage fan, maybe Kirby and the Warp Crystal? That's the most faithful adaption.

Otherwise... Things Change.

I've watched the Christmas and Halloween episodes with friends a couple times over the years. Those certainly didn't convert any viewers.

TMNachoT
03-17-2017, 09:11 AM
IŽll say "Things change", the first episode I watched, I still remember how curious and anxious I was about this version, it didnŽt fail me, cool episode and introduction to this series.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
03-17-2017, 04:54 PM
Things Change (so he and she can continue following the series in correct order)

MikeandRaph87
03-17-2017, 05:04 PM
The first episode of course is the one episode that would be recommended as other stated above. Outside of 'Things Change' though I would say the two part 'Shredder Strikes' episodes 10 and 11.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-17-2017, 08:20 PM
Obvious answer is "Things Change", but if we were to go on hard mode, I'd go with "Hun on the Run" or "The Darkness Within". Lots of good character moments in those two episodes.

For 'Hun on the Run', we get some really fun dynamics between the bad guys: Hun hates Karai, but has to save her; Stockman hates both of them, but has to work under the employ of the Shredder, whom he hates more. Plus some great Bishop v. Hun action.

'Darkness Within' is definitely a weird one but gives you a pretty well-rounded look at the turtles' more private thoughts. Definitely should be an introduction to the 4Kids series more for the otherwise versed TMNT fan rather than someone who doesn't know the turtles at all, who'll just think it's a f*cked up weird ass show.

ABrown
03-18-2017, 08:25 AM
If not the first episode, "Hun on the Run." It prominently features Bishop and Hun, the two good 4Kids originals.

Obvious answer is "Things Change", but if we were to go on hard mode, I'd go with "Hun on the Run" or "The Darkness Within". Lots of good character moments in those two episodes.

For 'Hun on the Run', we get some really fun dynamics between the bad guys: Hun hates Karai, but has to save her; Stockman hates both of them, but has to work under the employ of the Shredder, whom he hates more. Plus some great Bishop v. Hun action.


Don't get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE the Hun On The Run episode. But how is someone who's never seen the show before going to have any idea what's going on? Specifically, what events happened thus far in the series that have lead up to that episode. I just don't think someone could possibly appreciate the episode without having seen the show to that point.

CyberCubed
03-18-2017, 05:56 PM
I think the 2k3 series is hard to recommend just one episode because unlike the original cartoon or even Nick cartoon, so many of the episodes are connected to one another or multi-parters, that it's hard to jump in anywhere in the middle and not be confused.

***First of Two Latin Kings***
03-18-2017, 09:43 PM
Fallen Angel.

Wesley
03-19-2017, 11:11 AM
It took me a while to get into the series first, but I'd say The Shredder Strikes two-parter is a good episode to start with, as it was that episode that made me a fan of the show.

neatoman
03-19-2017, 01:21 PM
Garbageman

Nah but seriously, I'd go with Insane in the Membrane. If an episode got "banned", you know it's going to leave an impact.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-19-2017, 03:05 PM
Garbageman

Nah but seriously, I'd go with Insane in the Membrane. If an episode got "banned", you know it's going to leave an impact.

Woah man... you can't introduce someone to the show with something like 'Insane in the Membrane'. :lol:

Wesley
03-20-2017, 11:57 AM
Garbageman

Nah but seriously, I'd go with Insane in the Membrane. If an episode got "banned", you know it's going to leave an impact.

The funny thing is Garbageman was the first episode that I watched.

k_lala
03-22-2017, 03:29 PM
Just to play devils advocate. What if they watch the first episode and they think its ok or alright and then based off that don't want to watch the entire series.

Like you can't tell based off the first episode how dark / violent / cool fighting scenes / story telling (character development) the series has. Although yes, most of the series or shows are connected to one another.

AlessandraDC
03-22-2017, 04:47 PM
For Nick TMNT I would pick Invasion or Tales of the Yokai.

Rooish
03-24-2017, 08:06 PM
I did not get into the show from the first episode. I thought it was really cheesy actually.

Then I read about "Same as it Never Was" on a forum and watched it. That got my attention!

I think the show didn't really hit its stride in the first season.

CyberCubed
03-25-2017, 12:19 AM
I did not get into the show from the first episode. I thought it was really cheesy actually.

What made the first episode more cheesy than any other episode? There's no difference in tone from that ep and the other episodes in any of the other early seasons.

I think the show didn't really hit its stride in the first season.

Season 1 is still one of the best seasons of the 4kids show. I'm not sure what you mean by "didn't hit it's stride." The moment "Shredder Strikes" hit it already surpassed my expectations beyond the first 9 episodes.

dragonside
03-25-2017, 09:44 AM
For the 4Kids cartoon - its actually a hard sell with most people.

But I was won over by the Battle Nexus. So start em off on that arc.

Rooish
03-25-2017, 12:19 PM
What made the first episode more cheesy than any other episode? There's no difference in tone from that ep and the other episodes in any of the other early seasons.

Season 1 is still one of the best seasons of the 4kids show. I'm not sure what you mean by "didn't hit it's stride." The moment "Shredder Strikes" hit it already surpassed my expectations beyond the first 9 episodes.

Not sure exactly. I guess because it was mostly adaptations of comics, and it was hard to measure up to those. Once they had more original stories I thought the show got more exciting and darker (until, obviously, Fast Forward). "Shredder Strikes" was standout, so yeah maybe one could start there. I didn't only think the first episode was cheesy; I thought most of the earlier episodes (and some later ones) were.

The jokes were less funny in the first season and the voice actors hadn't quite settled into their roles yet.

Not sure about everyone else but the first season did not pull me in for long. I only really liked it later on, although I always liked the character designs and animation.

Don't get me wrong. I think 2003 was by far the best TMNT cartoon.

For the 4Kids cartoon - its actually a hard sell with most people.

But I was won over by the Battle Nexus. So start em off on that arc.

I loved the Battle Nexus too, although I think it was in part due to the previously established characterizations that got them to that point. Not sure if it's a good starter.

DestronMirage22
03-26-2017, 01:24 AM
As others mentioned, the 1st episode. I mean, that is the way it was meant to be.

CyberCubed
03-26-2017, 11:53 AM
You start at episode 1, and you watch in chronological order the whole way through.

k_lala
03-27-2017, 12:10 PM
You start at episode 1, and you watch in chronological order the whole way through.

Yes in an ideal world that would be perfect, but a lot of people do not have the patience for that. Like if someone wanted me to watch a whole series of Walking dead or Game of throwns and i've never seen an episode before. I might watch an episode and if I'm not hooked no way am i committing myself for 100 plus episodes.

I think the first TMNT show is good, I don't think its better than the episode where Leo cuts off Shredders head in return to new york. That might be a better episode to hook people off and intrigue them to watch the entire thing.

FredWolfLeonardo
03-27-2017, 01:32 PM
I forgot the names, but I think the episodes showing the turtles as kids could work pretty well. One was the episode where they all try and train Casey on the rooftop and in the other one, we learn their story of visiting the Ancient One in Japan.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-27-2017, 02:48 PM
Then there was that really terrible one where Serling goes back in time and meets the baby turtles.

FredWolfLeonardo
03-27-2017, 02:51 PM
Then there was that really terrible one where Serling goes back in time and meets the baby turtles.

There was actually an episode on that? I've never seen it since I skipped most of FastForward/Btts, but that sounds terrible right of the bat.

CyberCubed
03-27-2017, 03:40 PM
There was actually an episode on that? I've never seen it since I skipped most of FastForward/Btts, but that sounds terrible right of the bat.

You should go back and watch those seasons, plenty of good episodes.

Stephen
03-28-2017, 09:07 AM
Hey, if you had to introduce the series to someone who's never watch the show before. And you had to give him ONE episode to watch, to give him an idea of what the show was about what would it be and why?

"Reflections", since that's a very condensed version of the first season.

BYWInsaniac
03-31-2017, 01:05 AM
For what it's worth, I think if someone is a fan of the Turtles then you can skip around 2k3 without being too lost. I say that from experience.

I've never been able to get into 2k3 starting at the beginning. I've tried 3 or 4 times, but always lose interested 13 episodes in or so. I've jumped around, though, watching the highly recommended episodes or the adaptations of Mirage arcs that I like.

I'm certain that there's a whole other layer if you watch everything in order, but I definitely don't think you have to watch it in order to enjoy it.

So with that, as a super casual viewer, I really liked the "Turtles in Space" arc, and I loved the episode that adapts the Leo One-Shot. And while it's not a great starting point, "Insane in the Membrane" was freekin amazing.

-JJ

CyberCubed
03-31-2017, 03:13 PM
Season 1 has the most cohesive and down to earth narrative of all the seasons, and some of the best Shredder episodes until Season 3.

I don't see what there is to lose interest in. The few fillers inbetween are harmless and there aren't many either.

DisKosh
03-31-2017, 03:50 PM
For the 4Kids cartoon - its actually a hard sell with most people.

But I was won over by the Battle Nexus. So start em off on that arc.

I wasn't too keen on that one even though I thought it was really good. I think maybe because I found it too mystical. I like the TMNT episodes that incorporate the mystic and science fiction into everyday New York although there were some more fantasy/sci-fi episodes that I enjoyed.

I think this really illustrates that it depends on the interests of the person you're trying to introduce. Battle Nexus, is a great arc, but I don't think it would have hooked me personally.

You should go back and watch those seasons, plenty of good episodes.

Yeah, I think people tend to remember the overall style which I don't believe worked and the bad ones. I think most shows have series like that for instance in another show I like (Babylon 5), everyone seems to hate the last series but in spite of that it has some really good episodes.

CyberCubed
04-01-2017, 03:00 PM
Battle Nexus arc was one of my favorites, there was so many good subplots going on it too at the same time. It's not like it only focused on the tournament itself, but also everything with Draco and the Ultimate Ninja, Usagi's appearance, the huge vortex at the end, etc.

Prowler
04-01-2017, 04:10 PM
Battle Nexus arc was one of my favorites, there was so many good subplots going on it too at the same time. It's not like it only focused on the tournament itself, but also everything with Draco and the Ultimate Ninja, Usagi's appearance, the huge vortex at the end, etc.
A shame that it marked the downfall of Michelangelo's character. He became really annoying after winning it.

Ulisa
04-01-2017, 06:06 PM
I got into the 2k3 series with "The Shredder Strikes Back" mainly because I recognized a lot of the plot line from the 1990 movie which I loved. So it was fairly easy for me to feel caught up. I think I actually watched the series from that point onward before going back and watching the first few episodes.

neatoman
04-02-2017, 02:40 AM
Even when I wrote my first reply I had trouble to pick one episode, it still is and I can't figure out many better choices. Mainly because of how few episodes really make any sense without having seen previous ones.

Literally, the show has 156 episodes and a lot are eaten up by multi-parters, Look:

Shredder Strikes, 2 parts
Notes from the Underground, 3 parts
The Shredder Strikes Back, 2 parts
Return to New York, 3 parts
The Search for Splinter, 2 parts
Turtles in Space, 5 parts
Secret Origins, 3 parts
City at War, 3 parts
Rogue in the House, 2 parts
The Big Brawl, 4 parts
Space Invaders, 3 parts
Worlds Collide, 3 parts
The Real World, 2 parts
Exodus, 2 parts
Return of Savanti, 2 parts
Good Genes, 2 parts
New World Order, 2 parts
Enter the Dragons, 2 parts


44 episodes, a little less than a third of the series and those are just the official multi-parters, I didn't even bring up how, for example, Ultimate Ninja is set-up for the Big Brawl, the two episodes about Augie's artifact or how season 5 is basically one long arc.

CyberCubed
04-02-2017, 03:38 PM
For goodness sakes the show is meant to be watched in chronological order. This is not a show to skip around in if you've never seen it before. It's not like the Fred Wolf cartoon where you can just watch any random episode out of order and it doesn't make much of a difference.

neatoman
04-02-2017, 03:40 PM
For goodness sakes the show is meant to be watched in chronological order. This is not a show to skip around in if you've never seen it before. It's not like the Fred Wolf cartoon where you can just watch any random episode out of order and it doesn't make much of a difference.

Well yeah, kind of hard to only watch one episode like the thread title states, isn't it?

k_lala
04-05-2017, 09:11 AM
For goodness sakes the show is meant to be watched in chronological order. This is not a show to skip around in if you've never seen it before. It's not like the Fred Wolf cartoon where you can just watch any random episode out of order and it doesn't make much of a difference.

There's plenty of fans on this board that didn't watch the first episode and got hooked off a certain episode and then watched it from the beginning. Proof is shown in this thread.

Yes we agree with you, that its meant to be shown at the beginning. But this is not what this thread is really about. Also many casual fans have never even seen the series before. Fred Wolf and the current series is far more popular and remembered.