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TheSkeletonMan939
03-16-2017, 04:21 PM
Sony has tapped Dante Harper to pen a script for Venom, something that is being envisioned as a franchise apart from and unrelated to the upcoming Spider-Man movie in the works with actor Tom Holland.

Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach, among stewards of the Spider-Man properties, are producing and overseeing the project....

... This Venom is meant to not only stand on its own but to also launch its own franchise.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/spider-man-spinoff-venom-revived-872844

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Dumbledore-Shakes-His-Head-Reaction-Gif.gif

The Deadman
03-16-2017, 04:23 PM
Wasnt this rumored since the Amazing Spiderman films?

MikeandRaph87
03-16-2017, 04:26 PM
In other words it has a new writer to write a new script for a project that has been in development hell before Tobey and Sam ever walked away.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-16-2017, 04:26 PM
Since effin' Spider-Man 3. I'm shocked that after the deal with Marvel, it's still happening. And here I'd thought we'd dodged a bullet.

Candy Kappa
03-16-2017, 04:27 PM
It's right around the corner, next to the Sinister Six movie

THGhost
03-16-2017, 04:35 PM
Makes sense that it's still being made. Venom is an awesome character and it'd be great to see him done properly on the big screen.

snake
03-16-2017, 04:40 PM
lol, I'll eat a f*cking hat if this actually comes out.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-16-2017, 04:45 PM
According to comicbookmovie.com it has a release date
Didn't link to that though as there's no source.

Andrew NDB
03-16-2017, 04:47 PM
Maybe it's kind of intended to be to the MCU what Deadpool is to, like, the Bryan Singerverse.

ToTheNines
03-16-2017, 04:49 PM
They'll get Topher Grace back and make Aunt May the villain.

TurtleTitan97
03-16-2017, 05:38 PM
Talk about pointless.

ProphetofGanja
03-16-2017, 06:07 PM
Wow, Sony's shitshow is going to spread to the MCU? What an awful idea.

Venom is a great character, but I really don't know how well he could really work in a movie

NinjaPug
03-16-2017, 07:26 PM
Rushing a Venom movie that isn't connected to your Spider-Man movie without a director attached into prodcution? Lol, you do you Sony.

oldmanwinters
03-16-2017, 07:42 PM
DC gave this a try with Catwoman.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-16-2017, 07:58 PM
Here's something I was waiting for confirmation on: it's coming out next year.

Spider-Man’s nemesis, sharp of fang, flexible of morals, will get his own adventure, Sony said on Thursday. The spin-off film will swing into theaters on Oct. 5, 2018...

The release shuffle took place hours after Warner Bros. moved “Aquaman” from its Oct. 5 to Dec. 21, 2018. The studio was filling a holiday season hole left by “Avatar 2’s” delays.

http://variety.com/2017/film/box-office/venom-girl-in-the-spiders-web-1202010562/

I think this indicates that the film is essentially being fast-tracked to the big screen. I wonder if that means there's real worry at Sony as to whether they'll even maintain their status as a major studio within a few years. The Emoji Movie certainly won't be a smash hit (at least I'm pretty sure of that).

NinjaPug
03-16-2017, 07:59 PM
Sony and Paramount are both disasters.

snake
03-16-2017, 08:21 PM
NEXT YEAR? There's no way this won't get pushed back. I'm hoping that it's a fun train wreck like ASM2.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
03-16-2017, 08:25 PM
This will crash and burn. This will be hilarious.

Sony, Sony, Sony...

MikeandRaph87
03-16-2017, 08:32 PM
This will crash and burn. This will be hilarious.

Sony, Sony, Sony...

Venom is my favorite Marvel villain so I want it to succeed. I just don't want it be a joke like Catwoman where it is the character in name only.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-16-2017, 09:07 PM
My knowledge of Venom extends to the early nineties... there was this really weird time in between his making a truce with Spidey, and the "Maxinum Carnage" event, where he moved to LA and joined a group of underground hobos. That was bizarre; I hope they don't draw any inspiration from that. :/

DestronMirage22
03-16-2017, 10:59 PM
Oh ****, they for real?! :eek:
This'll be a trip. More likely than not it'll stink, but here's hoping they actually do decently. I also hope they don't take any influence from Agent Venom or Venom: Spaceknight. Agent was ok, but I found Space Knight to be incredibly stupid, but I don't think they should go those routes because they weren't exactly the best fit for the character.

Also, I've always kinda wanted a scene like this in a hypothetical Venom movie: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/3/36/Spider-Man_Reign_Vol_1_4.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070409111839

ProphetofGanja
03-17-2017, 06:47 AM
This whole trend of studio execs deciding when to release a movie before they tap a director, cast any actors, or even write a script really needs to die.

The Deadman
03-17-2017, 12:06 PM
So uhh...here we go with fan theories

Is ‘Life’ a Prequel to Sony’s ‘Spider-Man’ Spinoff, ‘Venom’?! (http://bloody-disgusting.com/comics/3428543/life-prequel-sonys-spider-man-spinoff-venom/)

snake
03-17-2017, 12:19 PM
That would be clever and fun. I hope it is.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-17-2017, 12:40 PM
Neat idea. Sounds too clever for Sony though. Everything they've done is so in-your-face.

ProphetofGanja
03-17-2017, 01:30 PM
Neat idea. Sounds too clever for Sony though. Everything they've done is so in-your-face.

Because it would be a neat idea we can pretty much rule it out. That's Sony for ya

TheSkeletonMan939
03-18-2017, 07:32 AM
Plus, if they were being so (relatively) meticulous about making a Venom prequel without any immediate reference to the character, they really wouldn't be pulling this "we'll make a real Venom movie literally in less than two years!" BS. They'd actually be trying.

ToTheNines
03-18-2017, 09:46 AM
**** Sony either way. I mean, it'd be kinda cool if they were ripping off Spectacular Spider-Man here and spun it off from there, but I don't see them actually doing it.

Just pisses me off that Spidey is literally going to space (or at least being exposed to aliens) in IW and maybe again in A4. Seems like a great time to introduce the symbiote, and be more in line with the comics. Then have Peter deal with and lose the symbiote on Homecoming 2/2019, and then make your stupid ass solo Venom movie no one cares about in 2020 and let the MCU use him if they see fit.

MsMarvelDuckie
03-18-2017, 11:08 AM
That- would actually be pretty cool.

sdp
03-18-2017, 12:23 PM
I love Venom and I hope this movie comes out, I think no matter what they come out with I would enjoy it, even the poorly handled Spider-Man 3 Venom was fine by me.

Now I hope they go full Venom with it and have it reek of the 90s in full anti-hero "Lethal Enforcer" rated R movie now that Logan and Deadpool have proven people like that even if it would in no way compare to those movies.

TheSkeletonMan939
03-18-2017, 12:49 PM
Cool idea but the risk is too high. Deadpool was a fluke in terms of its success.
Sony's main goal here is to make some much-needed money. I don't think they've had a good, solid hit in years now. PG-13 is the most profitable route they could take.

retr0pia75
03-18-2017, 01:09 PM
Yeah, this is going to suck.

ProphetofGanja
03-18-2017, 02:19 PM
**** Sony either way. I mean, it'd be kinda cool if they were ripping off Spectacular Spider-Man here and spun it off from there, but I don't see them actually doing it.

Just pisses me off that Spidey is literally going to space (or at least being exposed to aliens) in IW and maybe again in A4. Seems like a great time to introduce the symbiote, and be more in line with the comics. Then have Peter deal with and lose the symbiote on Homecoming 2/2019, and then make your stupid ass solo Venom movie no one cares about in 2020 and let the MCU use him if they see fit.

Yeah, I really wish Marvel Studios could regain absolute control over the movie rights to Spidey, the Fantastic Four, and whoever else they sold (I know the X-Men are included in this but I'm not that concerned with them as far as inclusion in the MCU goes, because I feel it's hard to achieve the allusion to the civil rights movement that their comics originally evoked when you've got superheros adored by the public running around in the same setting; in my opinion they work best in a setting without other superheroes)

I feel like the MCU could do a decent riff on the original Secret Wars storyline as their next "big" plot point after Thanos

ToTheNines
03-18-2017, 07:21 PM
Agreed about xmen. I'm glad Marvel dosen't have them, I just wish Fox wasn't so bad at them. I would dig it if Marvel got to use Wolverine though. No one else.

Secret Wars could be cool. Definitely need Doom for that.

ToTheNines
03-22-2017, 05:37 PM
And now they want to make a Silver Sable/Black Cat movie...

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/spider-man/another-spider-man-spin-off-in-the-works-as-sony-gets-thor-ragnarok-scribe-for-black-cat-silver-sable-movie-a149815

MikeandRaph87
03-22-2017, 05:54 PM
Why won't Sony give up? Once Sam Raimi and Tobey Maquire walked they lost quality that cannot be replicated. It hasn't been the same since and its not going to be.

NinjaPug
03-22-2017, 05:56 PM
Go home Sony, you're drunk.

I love Chris Yost but this is so stupid. Why create a Spider-Man movie universe that isn't connected to your main Spider-Man movie?

TheSkeletonMan939
03-22-2017, 06:20 PM
Like oldmanwinters said, sounds like they're doing exactly what WB did with Catwoman. Unbelievable.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
03-22-2017, 06:50 PM
And now they want to make a Silver Sable/Black Cat movie...

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/spider-man/another-spider-man-spin-off-in-the-works-as-sony-gets-thor-ragnarok-scribe-for-black-cat-silver-sable-movie-a149815

TTN beat me to the news.

Sony had ONE chance at redemption. And now they're going to frak up the Spiderman 'verse as quickly and as forcefully as possible. :tlol: :tlol:

What was the point of making a deal with Marvel if they're going right back to their original patented "throw-sh!t-at-the-wall" plan? :tlol:

ProphetofGanja
03-22-2017, 07:13 PM
Agreed about xmen. I'm glad Marvel dosen't have them, I just wish Fox wasn't so bad at them. I would dig it if Marvel got to use Wolverine though. No one else.

Secret Wars could be cool. Definitely need Doom for that.

Mannnn, I forgot just how many character rights Marvel sold off. I was reading Deadpool's Secret Secret Wars the other day, a kind-of comedic retconning of the original Secret Wars, and I was getting all these nostalgic feels for the classic. It's such a relic of its time, it would have to be thoroughly updated and re-worked, just for dialogue and plot points alone, not even considering how many characters that appeared in it that Marvel can't currently use. Oh well. We got Age of Ultron, Civil War, and soon Infinity War. I wonder what big "event" storyline they'll adapt next.

Go home Sony, you're drunk.

I love Chris Yost but this is so stupid. Why create a Spider-Man movie universe that isn't connected to your main Spider-Man movie?

:lol: well said. it just reeks of money-grabbing desperation, especially with the confirmation that none of these movies will be connected to the MCU in any way. it's just like, why???

DestronMirage22
03-22-2017, 10:54 PM
And now they want to make a Silver Sable/Black Cat movie...

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/spider-man/another-spider-man-spin-off-in-the-works-as-sony-gets-thor-ragnarok-scribe-for-black-cat-silver-sable-movie-a149815

Ok, now they're just being idiotic.

Also I've been thinking a lot about this potential Venom movie, and I gotta say: I'd love it if it were a part of the same universe from the original Sam Raimi trilogy. I actually liked those movies quite a bit despite their flaws, and would like to see them get revisited in some way.

AT-Man
03-24-2017, 04:24 PM
I just hope it will be in the same MCU universe with Tom Holland, even if they wouldn't say a word about other super heroes. Just don't make them contradict each other, that would be enough.

Andrew NDB
03-24-2017, 04:27 PM
I just hope it will be in the same MCU universe with Tom Holland, even if they wouldn't say a word about other super heroes. Just don't make them contradict each other, that would be enough.

That's probably the general idea. And I bet Feige will be a producer in some capacity, as he was with Amazing Spider-Man 2.

ProphetofGanja
03-24-2017, 04:38 PM
That's probably the general idea. And I bet Feige will be a producer in some capacity, as he was with Amazing Spider-Man 2.

I thought they already said definitively that these movies are in no way, shape, or form tied to the MCU and Feige has zero involvement

Andrew NDB
03-24-2017, 04:40 PM
I thought they already said definitively that these movies are in no way, shape, or form tied to the MCU and Feige has zero involvement

I'm highly skeptical of that. It just wouldn't make sense. And what happens when Marvel wants to include Venom in a new Spider-man movie?

ProphetofGanja
03-24-2017, 05:01 PM
I'm highly skeptical of that. It just wouldn't make sense. And what happens when Marvel wants to include Venom in a new Spider-man movie?

Well, true, but nothing Sony is doing right now seems to make sense.

I would hope Marvel would just proceed full-steam ahead, ignoring whatever hot mess Sony had already made

The Deadman
03-27-2017, 12:57 PM
MARVEL has no creative freedom when it comes to the Spider-Man movie, Sony does, so if Sony wants Venom in the next Spider-Man movie, it'll happen.

Production Listing Suggests ‘Venom’ Will Be a Rated R Horror Film! (http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3429704/production-listing-suggests-venom-will-horror-film/)

Andrew NDB
03-27-2017, 01:13 PM
So uhh...here we go with fan theories

Is ‘Life’ a Prequel to Sony’s ‘Spider-Man’ Spinoff, ‘Venom’?! (http://bloody-disgusting.com/comics/3428543/life-prequel-sonys-spider-man-spinoff-venom/)

I can confirm it is... definitely not a Venom prequel (no way the space manta ray is the symbiote... it doesn't take hosts, it just digests people from the inside out). It's also not particularly a great movie. Ending tried to be clever but was a cheat.

sdp
03-27-2017, 01:57 PM
If Sony went to Marvel for help with Spider-Man I doubt they'll be forcing stuff like Venom onto the films unless it's Marvel themselves that suggest it. I think they'll pretty much have these other movies be independent from Spider-Man and if they aren't then they'll let Marvel do their thing and they'll do theirs without pissing marvel off since they want money.


I'm fine with a bunch of Spider-Man spin-offs, other than X-Men the only other character who has a big enough cast of characters for spin-offs is Spider-Man since he's the most popular Marvel hero. I thought the original plan of the Spider-Man Cinematic Universe Sony was hoping with Amazing spider-man had potential but of course they messed it up.

Autbot_Benz
05-19-2017, 12:46 PM
Tom Hardy is Eddie Brock

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/05/19/venom-tom-hardy-to-star-zombieland-director-to-helm-for-2018-release

IGN can confirm Hardy's involvement as Brock in the film from Sony's Marvel Universe, which will be released on October 5, 2018. Production will start this fall.


Tom Hardy, who will star as Eddie Brock/Venom

Venom will be the first film debuting Sony's bid to build out its own Marvel Universe, despite Sony's unique deal with Marvel Studios to include Spider-Man in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, is not a spinoff from the existing MCU films. Spider-Man: Homecoming director Jon Watts discussed how the films won't be connected earlier this year. And Sony's Marvel Universe will reportedly include a Black Cat/Silver Sable film.

Avi Arad, Matt Tolmach, and Amy Pascal are producing the film, with Palak Patel and Eric Fineman overseeing for Columbia Pictures.
Venom: Sony Sets Release Date for Spider-Man Spinoff Movie
00:25

Sony set a release date for Venom earlier this year, revealing the long in-development project was back on track.

Reports have suggested that the film will be of the action, horror, and sci-fi genres

Developing...

Andrew NDB
05-19-2017, 12:59 PM
Maybe they'll keep the Venom movie pretty self-contained... not committing to make it a part of any universe in particular. Then if it's a hit, they can "lease" Venom to Marvel. If it's a flop, it can quietly go away and Sony-Marvel can make an MCU Venom proper.

Might be just a way to get around the Disney thing, because there's no way Disney is greenlighting any R-rated Marvel movies and they figure Venom needs that.

sdp
05-20-2017, 08:16 PM
Or maybe Sony will tell Marvel to p-ss off after their current deal finishes and they'll continue a new Spider-Man universe sans Marvel.

I'm excited for this, Venom is one of my favorite characters and yes I love me some 90s Spider-Man, it was my spider-man when I was growing up and it took me a while to warm up to a more "traditional" spider-man. This is fine by me, as I mentioned only Spider-Man and X-Men are big enough that they can handle their own universe by themselves without the need for others. I guess Fantastic Four as well.

Autbot_Benz
05-20-2017, 09:22 PM
Sony has failed 3 times with Spider-Man they don't deserve him anymore. 3 strikes and your out. If Venom fails Marvel should go get the rights back. Sony hasn't done well with franchises lately I mean look at ghostbusters

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-21-2017, 11:59 AM
I still don't believe this will actually happen.

I mean, Gambit claimed to have Channing Tatum and THAT still hasn't materialized a year or two later.

Whatever, Sony. Keep dreaming big and throwing money down a rat hole.

The Deadman
06-15-2017, 02:45 AM
‘Venom’ Will Not Be Part of the Marvel Universe; Shooting This Fall
http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3442079/venom-will-not-part-marvel-universe-shooting-fall/

Andrew NDB
06-15-2017, 09:45 AM
‘Venom’ Will Not Be Part of the Marvel Universe

The important part of the verbiage there is the "For now."

CyberCubed
06-15-2017, 11:40 AM
Yeah, I don't see why it matters. Every new film is mostly standalone until they feel the need to bring other universes into it. I'd also find it hard to believe this Venom won't also appear in one of the later Spiderman movies especially if it's a hit.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-15-2017, 11:44 AM
Yeah, I don't see why it matters. Every new film is mostly standalone until they feel the need to bring other universes into it. I'd also find it hard to believe this Venom won't also appear in one of the later Spiderman movies especially if it's a hit.

No no no no no no, Cubed. :tsmile:

Every new film is mostly standalone UNTIL IT MAKES ENOUGH MONEY. :twink:

THEN it becomes part of a cinematic universe. ... Although quite a few people try it the other way around.

Step 1: Form a cinematic universe.
Step 2: Make a critically and financially successful movie.

And most of those people usually screw up at Step 2. :tlol:

Andrew NDB
06-15-2017, 11:58 AM
That's true of "we're starting a TRILOGY with this movie!" too. Plenty of examples of that flatlining at movie #1.

Eragon
Ender's Game
Terminator Salvation
Terminator Genisys

And so on, so on.

The idea is that they think if they sell audiences on the idea that they're not just watching a movie, but rather the BEGINNING OF SOMETHING YUUUUGE, then they'll be more likely to see it. I guess? It never seems to work, though, yet they keep doing it.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-15-2017, 12:07 PM
That's true of "we're starting a TRILOGY with this movie!" too. Plenty of examples of that flatlining at movie #1.

Eragon
Ender's Game
Terminator Salvation
Terminator Genisys

And so on, so on.

The idea is that they think if they sell audiences on the idea that they're not just watching a movie, but rather the BEGINNING OF SOMETHING YUUUUGE, then they'll be more likely to see it. I guess? It never seems to work, though, yet they keep doing it.

With the first two examples, it's a bit weird because the book series are already pretty far along so of course most people who go to see it are going to expect sequels.

You gotta be really bad to not get a film sequel when you're a novel series adaptation. And it keeps happening, too. I Am Number Four, Mortal Instruments, Vampire Academy, etc.

TheSkeletonMan939
06-15-2017, 12:21 PM
One trend that fortunately died off very quickly was "let's split one book into two movies" . Harry Potter did it and Hunger Games did it, and I think Divergent did it too. Only difference is that no one saw Divergent Pt. 1, so they never made a Pt. 2.

Andrew NDB
06-15-2017, 12:35 PM
One trend that fortunately died off very quickly was "let's split one book into two movies" . Harry Potter did it and Hunger Games did it, and I think Divergent did it too. Only difference is that no one saw Divergent Pt. 1, so they never made a Pt. 2.

A little bit different there. They released Divergent, which did OK. Then they released Insurgent, which also did OK. Then they were going to break Allegiant into two movies titled Part 1 and Part 2, but at the last minute decided to just call Part 1 "Allegiant." Then it flopped and they were talking about making Part 2 (which they were calling "Ascendant") a TV movie, or TV mini-series... but none of it went anywhere. Now it's going to be a graphic novel or something, lol... it got "Dawn of the Ninja"ed.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-15-2017, 12:37 PM
One trend that fortunately died off very quickly was "let's split one book into two movies" . Harry Potter did it and Hunger Games did it, and I think Divergent did it too. Only difference is that no one saw Divergent Pt. 1, so they never made a Pt. 2.

It died off quickly? Really? I disagree.

Harry Potter, Divergent, Twilight, Hunger Games, Hobbit, and that's just off the top of my head... um, what else... Batman The Dark Knight Returns...

It will be two parts, but it really needs to be... that's a dense book... in my opinion, The Hobbit needed to be split into multiple movies as well.

Although perhaps it is simply that YA adaptations are dying off, not splitting into two movies. I dunno, now I feel like I'm arguing semantics. :tsmile:

TheSkeletonMan939
06-15-2017, 12:56 PM
Eh, Hobbit is a little different since LotR set precedent.
I've noticed too that there's been a wonderful lull of movies based off of YA novels, but then again I haven't heard of anything relatively recently that's caught people's attention almost universally the same way HP or Hunger Games did.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-15-2017, 12:58 PM
Eh, Hobbit is a little different since LotR set precedent.
I've noticed too that there's been a wonderful lull of movies based off of YA novels, but then again I haven't heard of anything relatively recently that's caught people's attention almost universally the same way HP or Hunger Games did.

Also the fact that the Hobbit didn't have enough material in itself to make it as a full-length feature film.

CyberCubed
06-15-2017, 01:36 PM
Stop watching bad movies then. In recent years we've gotten excellent non-superhero films like Mad Max Fury Road, the new Planet of the Apes, John Wick 1 and 2, Creed, Mel Gibson's "Blood father," and the various Quentin Tarantino films like The Hateful Eight and Django Unchained.

I guess it's easy to forget non-superhero films still exist.

Andrew NDB
06-15-2017, 01:40 PM
Stop watching bad movies then. In recent years we've gotten excellent non-superhero films like Mad Max Fury Road, the new Planet of the Apes, John Wick 1 and 2, Creed, Mel Gibson's "Blood father," and the various Quentin Tarantino films like The Hateful Eight and Django Unchained.

I guess it's easy to forget non-superhero films still exist.

Blood Father was bland and bad. It's almost like a cheaper version of his other movie, Edge of Darkness. Now that was a movie.

CyberCubed
06-15-2017, 01:43 PM
Blood Father was bland and bad. It's almost like a cheaper version of his other movie, Edge of Darkness. Now that was a movie.

It wasn't great, but I like seeing Mel Gibson act crazy and go on a bloodlust. Payback which was made back in 1999 I think...was one of Mel Gibson's best gangster movie roles.

Andrew NDB
06-15-2017, 01:56 PM
It wasn't great, but I like seeing Mel Gibson act crazy and go on a bloodlust.

We got that in Edge of Darkness, and it was way better done. It really makes you root for him at the end.

Interesting factoid: it actually filmed in Northampton.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-15-2017, 01:58 PM
Stop watching bad movies then. In recent years we've gotten excellent non-superhero films like Mad Max Fury Road, the new Planet of the Apes, John Wick 1 and 2, Creed, Mel Gibson's "Blood father," and the various Quentin Tarantino films like The Hateful Eight and Django Unchained.

I guess it's easy to forget non-superhero films still exist.

All good except I've never heard of the Mel Gibson movie.

Man, you are going to end up talking me into watching those new "Apes" movies. :twink:

CyberCubed
06-15-2017, 02:12 PM
The new Apes movies are much more action oriented than the classic movies, so you might enjoy them more.

Andrew NDB
06-15-2017, 02:13 PM
All good except I've never heard of the Mel Gibson movie.

Man, you are going to end up talking me into watching those new "Apes" movies. :twink:

The two new Apes movies are really good. They're also tonally very different from one another. Part 3 looks like it's going to be about like 2, but just on a bigger scale.

DestronMirage22
06-15-2017, 02:15 PM
Man, you are going to end up talking me into watching those new "Apes" movies. :twink:

The new Apes movies are much more action oriented than the classic movies, so you might enjoy them more.

Yeah, you should give those films a chance Cylons. They're pretty good. They have good stories, plenty of ape vs human action, and even some deeper themes if you're into that kind of stuff.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-15-2017, 02:18 PM
The two new Apes movies are really good. They're also tonally very different from one another. Part 3 looks like it's going to be about like 2, but just on a bigger scale.

The new Apes movies are much more action oriented than the classic movies, so you might enjoy them more.

Yeah, you should give those films a chance Cylons. They're pretty good. They have good stories, plenty of ape vs human action, and even some deeper themes if you're into that kind of stuff.

Geez, okay, okay... you guys convinced me. I've placed hold requests at my library, and should be seeing them in the next week or two. :tsmile:

sdp
06-18-2017, 09:08 AM
Look like Venom and all new Sony spider-man movies will take place in the MCU. (https://twitter.com/comicfade/status/876443828370255874)

I think this could be awesome, in b4 "buy mah holy mcu will be tainted by teh evil sony"

NinjaPug
06-18-2017, 09:25 AM
Once again Amy Pascal just throwing **** against the wall. Feige didn't look like he agreed with what she was saying. He's also said the exact opposite multiple times recently.

Sure, Sony could throw Tom Holland into these side movies if they sign him to a new contract but they aren't really part of the MCU if Marvel Studios isn't involved.

TheSkeletonMan939
06-18-2017, 09:33 AM
Feige's face in the thumbnail says it all.

http://i.imgur.com/oBe8n6A.png
^
'wtf is this idiot talking about'

It's almost like Pascal thinks that Sony still 'owns' Spidey as far as public perception is concerned.

MikeandRaph87
06-18-2017, 09:37 AM
This is a complete 180 from less than a week ago. Sony was trying to its own rhing yet now Marvel is putting it together. I wonder if Disney approached Sony and threatened to end its involvement if it was not.

NinjaPug
06-18-2017, 10:55 AM
This is a complete 180 from less than a week ago. Sony was trying to its own rhing yet now Marvel is putting it together. I wonder if Disney approached Sony and threatened to end its involvement if it was not.

Marvel isn't putting these together. They have zero involvement.

ZariusTwo
06-18-2017, 11:06 AM
Amy is the Dixie Carter of superhero movies

Autbot_Benz
06-18-2017, 02:02 PM
Amy is the Dixie Carter of superhero movies

http://i.imgur.com/Gf5ZvtP.jpg

Andrew NDB
06-18-2017, 07:20 PM
Once again Amy Pascal just throwing **** against the wall. Feige didn't look like he agreed with what she was saying. He's also said the exact opposite multiple times recently.

Sure, Sony could throw Tom Holland into these side movies if they sign him to a new contract but they aren't really part of the MCU if Marvel Studios isn't involved.

I don't think either one is wrong. It's like I surmised before:

1. Marvel continues using Spider-Man in their movies in a partnership with Sony, but we all know these are basically Marvel Studios movies.
2. Sony builds their Spider-Man expanded universe on the Sony side of the fence, designed in such a way to not intersect or contradict with anything actually going on at Marvel (i.e., the Avengers just defeated Thanos before the events of the Venom movie... the Venom movie just doesn't talk about it). And they can probably use Spider-Man in it whenever they damn feel like it (Spider-Man didn't cease being their character when they made the deal with Marvel, or anything). And I'm sure Sony could clear this or that with Marvel, given their good relationship (i.e., "Hey Kevin Feige, can we talk about including Ant-Man in our Sinister Six movie?"). And vice versa, Marvel COULD incorporate stuff from the Sony expanded spider-verse into the solo Spider-Man movies.

The deal actually benefits both parties. Sony is free to do what they want in their Spider-verse on the side, and Marvel doesn't HAVE to use it in the solo Spider-Man movies or other MCU movies... but they COULD if they want to and it's a success. If Venom and all that is a failure? It can neatly be swept under the rug by both parties, like it never happened. And the neat thing about Sony is they can actually put out an R-rated Venom movie, while Marvel Studios' hands are tied by Disney. We can get a bloody, cursing Venom movie... and down the road, maybe he pops into a Spider-Man solo movie.

Win win.

ToTheNines
06-19-2017, 08:30 AM
That's all good and well, I just don't understand this Venom business at all. Tom Hardy is 40, MCU Peter is currently 16. They've always been rivals before the symbiotic ends up latching on. Even if it's a Dawson-cast, what's the youngest he can believably play? 30?

Andrew NDB
06-19-2017, 10:09 AM
That's all good and well, I just don't understand this Venom business at all. Tom Hardy is 40, MCU Peter is currently 16. They've always been rivals before the symbiotic ends up latching on. Even if it's a Dawson-cast, what's the youngest he can believably play? 30?

I dunno... how old is regular, non-Ultimate Marvel Brock supposed to be in the comics?

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/1/11136/2989039-004+eddie+brock+-+venom.jpg

He looks about 40 to me.

ToTheNines
06-19-2017, 10:17 AM
Right, but Peter was a grown-ass man by then, too.

Don't get me wrong, it's better casting than Eric fuc*ing Foreman, but considering the current Spidey... I don't get it.

ProphetofGanja
06-19-2017, 11:58 AM
Right, but Peter was a grown-ass man by then, too.

Don't get me wrong, it's better casting than Eric fuc*ing Foreman, but considering the current Spidey... I don't get it.

https://media.giphy.com/media/uhArJ25L9Ycfu/giphy.gif
lmao :lol::lol::lol:

Yeah, the MCU/non-MCU/Sony Venom that they're creating is likely going to have a backstory that deviates a lot from the comics. I wonder what motivation they'll give to Brock to hate Peter, or if they're even going to go that route at all. Plus it's already going to be weird because I can't see Peter getting the symbiote before Brock, so the symbiote and Brock just have to be given some random reason to hate Peter?

Or not, and Sony is just doing random things for random reasons and their version of Venom will have very little in common with its comic counterpart

TheSkeletonMan939
06-19-2017, 01:17 PM
I don't think the comics version of Venom's origin ever has been adapted anywhere else.

DestronMirage22
06-19-2017, 01:52 PM
I don't think the comics version of Venom's origin ever has been adapted anywhere else.

With the Beyonder and the whole Marvel universe in a single planet? Yeah...that's not likely to happen on the big screen :lol:.
It'd be cool though.

Andrew NDB
06-19-2017, 01:56 PM
I don't think the comics version of Venom's origin ever has been adapted anywhere else.

From what I've read of it... is it even a good idea to try?

"Peter gets symbiote, symbiote corrupts Peter, Peter gets a black suit, Peter gets rid of symbiote and symbiote finds Brock."

I don't think that part should be messed with, though.

TheSkeletonMan939
06-19-2017, 01:56 PM
With the Beyonder and the whole Marvel universe in a single planet? Yeah...that's not likely to happen on the big screen :lol:.
It'd be cool though.

No, I mean the whole thing about Eddie Brock publishing a fake story about Sin-Eater's identity, and then Spidey revealing the real identity, and Brock getting pissed over that.
The Sin-Eater story is a good one and I wish someone had the balls to adapt it for the big screen.

ToTheNines
06-19-2017, 03:09 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/uhArJ25L9Ycfu/giphy.gif
lmao :lol::lol::lol:

Yeah, the MCU/non-MCU/Sony Venom that they're creating is likely going to have a backstory that deviates a lot from the comics. I wonder what motivation they'll give to Brock to hate Peter, or if they're even going to go that route at all. Plus it's already going to be weird because I can't see Peter getting the symbiote before Brock, so the symbiote and Brock just have to be given some random reason to hate Peter?

Excellent gif lol.

Agreed, mostly. But even though it might cramp the narrative, they could have Peter join with the symbiote in the first act of Infinity War and maybe have him ditch it in a post-credit scene? That would be Marvel doing Sony a gi-fuc*ing-normous favor, with their silly Venom movie coming out 5 months later, but I don't see any other way around it if they're planning on making any kind of larger connection.

But you kinda still need to have Peter be present in your Venom origin story. Who knows?


Or not, and Sony is just doing random things for random reasons and their version of Venom will have very little in common with its comic counterpart

Probably.

No, I mean the whole thing about Eddie Brock publishing a fake story about Sin-Eater's identity, and then Spidey revealing the real identity, and Brock getting pissed over that.
The Sin-Eater story is a good one and I wish someone had the balls to adapt it for the big screen.

What a fitting time to make a movie about FAKE NEWS and the failing, totally biased Daily Bugle. Major loser @jjjameson is a lightweight editor!

AT-Man
06-19-2017, 03:34 PM
I'm just gonna say it: Tom Hardy is too short! He was too short for Bane and he's too short for Venom. It doesn't matter if he can be made to look tall in a movie, but I will always know they can't just have a shot where Bane and Batman are side by side, because Bane would be a head shorter.

edit: then again, Venom will likely be CGI tall like Lizard. It doesn't matter if Eddie himself is short.

ProphetofGanja
06-19-2017, 03:50 PM
I'm just gonna say it: Tom Hardy is too short! He was too short for Bane and he's too short for Venom. It doesn't matter if he can be made to look tall in a movie, but I will always know they can't just have a shot where Bane and Batman are side by side, because Bane would be a head shorter.

Camera tricks can solve all of that.

Remember Gimli from the Lord of the Rings movies? He's that big ass dude who keeps Indiana Jones from eating the poisoned dates in Raiders of the Lost Ark

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-19-2017, 03:51 PM
Camera tricks can solve all of that.

Remember Gimli from the Lord of the Rings movies? He's that big ass dude who keeps Indiana Jones from eating the poisoned dates in Raiders of the Lost Ark

That's one of the many reasons why I've always wanted Peter Jackson to do a TMNT movie. He also does a great job with group dynamics and fantastical settings... and adaptations.

GoldMutant
06-19-2017, 07:20 PM
I still can't forsee anything out of this until more details are given.

Tom Hardy is a decent choice for the role though. I just hope Venom can be done right. The last time he really was awesome outside the comics was Spectacular Spider-Man, even though I'm not a huge fan with his last episode in it.

Andrew did bring up a good point on it being beneficial to both parties, but it also can be swept under depending on what occurs. Regardless, I'm interested if this can get off the ground.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-19-2017, 07:24 PM
I still can't forsee anything out of this until more details are given.

Tom Hardy is a decent choice for the role though. I just hope Venom can be done right. The last time he really was awesome outside the comics was Spectacular Spider-Man, even though I'm not a huge fan with his last episode in it.

Andrew did bring up a good point on it being beneficial to both parties, but it also can be swept under depending on what occurs. Regardless, I'm interested if this can get off the ground.

You're one of the resident webhead fans around here; how do you feel towards Venom as a character? One of your faves, or overrated?

GoldMutant
06-19-2017, 07:36 PM
You're one of the resident webhead fans around here; how do you feel towards Venom as a character? One of your faves, or overrated?

It all depends on who writes him and how he's portrayed.

Honestly, Venom is still cool, but overrated personally. I'd put him as my eighth or seventh favorite Spider-Man villain. Comics, especially his earlier days, he was awesome. The Todd McFarlane days were amazing and still hold up. I really liked the Ultimate Comics portrayal, at least the first Venom story. His following appearance in War of the Symbiotes... bleh.

I don't like his other media appearances though. Outside Spectacular, I don't find him that compelling so far in movies or television. Personally, I kinda liked Topher Grace in 3, but the character was really rushed. Had 3 been divided into two films as planned at one point, he would've been much better.

I would like other villains to be done before Venom gets reused again. Kraven, Mysterio, Scorpion, and Black Cat especially should come first. They're the only "big" names off the top of my head that could carry a movie alone. I'd also like Rhino to be redone after the atrocity in Amazing Spider-Man 2 before Venom too.

However, as I said, all depends on how you do him.

If curious Cy, these are my personal favorites:

1. Kraven the Hunter
2. Doctor Octopus
3. Kingpin
4. Green Goblin
5. Lizard
6. Mysterio
7. Scorpion
8. Venom
9. Electro
10. Sandman

sdp
06-21-2017, 10:26 AM
http://io9.gizmodo.com/sonys-spider-man-movie-verse-will-feature-carnage-and-1796297310



Carnage in Vernon movie, Peter in Sony MCU , avenger in Homecoming 2 oh my!

ZariusTwo
06-21-2017, 10:35 AM
Solo movies for Kraven and Mysterio too

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-21-2017, 10:43 AM
Solo movies for Kraven and Mysterio too

Not as bad as the Aunt May prequel.

But seriously. Sony needs to go to film studio rehab. :tlol:

Candy Kappa
06-21-2017, 11:01 AM
Not as bad as the Aunt May prequel.

I think that Trouble comic was enough Aunt May prequel we'll ever need...

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-21-2017, 11:12 AM
I think that Trouble comic was enough Aunt May prequel we'll ever need...

But wouldn't you love to see it in live action!?

Candy Kappa
06-21-2017, 11:23 AM
No.


10 characters

NinjaPug
06-21-2017, 11:28 AM
Solo movies for Kraven and Mysterio too

I was hoping that was misinterpreted and that they would be in solo Spidey movies down the line.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-21-2017, 11:40 AM
I was hoping that was misinterpreted and that they would be in solo Spidey movies down the line.

I don't think Sony can use Spiderman while Marvel is using him... that's what seems to be written between the lines.

I mean, otherwise, wouldn't they be including Spidey in the Venom movie and the Silver/Black movie?

MikeandRaph87
06-21-2017, 12:34 PM
Not as bad as the Aunt May prequel.

But seriously. Sony needs to go to film studio rehab. :tlol:

The sad thing is I thought you guys were making it up kidding around at all this talk and the ridiculous ideas Sony has come up with. I think saw an article on Yahoo! about it. Sony should just distribute Spider-Man films and be happy.

Mysterio: The Movie and Kraven: The Movie? Ummm....I can understand Venom as a one-shot thing,but anything else? Why those two because they have yet to be in a film? I actually would see a Myesterio film because he and The Scorpion are the ones I want to see in a Spider-Man film. Kraven I will not go see simply because the character does not interest me. Mysterio can be the primary and Kraven the secondary in a follow up to Homecoming. Sony is all talk and if ever executed will likely fall flat on its face breaking all of its teeth. Just because its Spider-Man related doe not mean its worth making a movie! It needs freaking Spider-Man!

Candy Kappa
06-21-2017, 01:08 PM
What would a Kraven movie be without Spider-Man? The prequel where he kills a bunch of endangered predators and sits on his throne made of ivory, baby seals and lions and shigs that hunting bring no joy anymore. And end credits he picks up a Daily Bugle seeing a blurry pic of "Spider-Man the MENACE!"

mmm, compelling.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-21-2017, 01:58 PM
What would a Kraven movie be without Spider-Man? The prequel where he kills a bunch of endangered predators and sits on his throne made of ivory, baby seals and lions and shigs that hunting bring no joy anymore. And end credits he picks up a Daily Bugle seeing a blurry pic of "Spider-Man the MENACE!"

mmm, compelling.

Maybe Mysterio will be the story of a sad special effects technician or a failed stage magician. :trazz:

shuriken
06-21-2017, 07:43 PM
This sounds stupid to me. Like I'd rather have them make an animated movie but whatever. I'm sure people will go watch it.

sdp
06-21-2017, 08:23 PM
Kraven and Mysterio would have a tough time holding their own as main villains in a Spider-Man movie, let alone a spin-off about them, and I like both characters.

The spider-man has done tons of world building over the decades, why are they focusing on these villains for solo movies?

Venom makes sense since he's super popular and has had many solo runs in comics. Black Cat/Silver Sable even if lesser known also make sense that they would have random adventures but Kraven and Mysterio just work better as supporting characters or villians. Wouldn't it be awesome to see the Scarlett spider/spider-girl or any other spider clone hero? You could've started the Clone Saga somehow, Oscorp could be expanded on, I don't know, I wouldn't start with those two, that's for sure.

This sounds stupid to me. Like I'd rather have them make an animated movie but whatever. I'm sure people will go watch it.

I think they're making an animated Miles Morales Spidey movie.

Candy Kappa
06-22-2017, 03:14 AM
Kraven as the main villain could give us a Physiological Thriller Superhero movie, that'd be neat.

ZariusTwo
06-22-2017, 07:03 AM
I got sent a PM with a few ideas to use Kraven in a movie, it painted him as a reality tv star who uses a serum to make him all bestial, reminded me a lot of the nineties Spidey cartoon where something similar happened to Kraven's love interest.

GoldMutant
06-24-2017, 05:28 PM
I got sent a PM with a few ideas to use Kraven in a movie, it painted him as a reality tv star who uses a serum to make him all bestial, reminded me a lot of the nineties Spidey cartoon where something similar happened to Kraven's love interest.

I wonder who sent it. :shifty:
(All seriousness, if you guys want to know more, I had some ideas for Spider-Man movies. Just PM me.)
____________________________________

I personally see these ideas have potential, but with Sony's track record, I'm hesitant.

sdp
06-25-2017, 10:40 AM
And we're back out (https://twitter.com/erikdavis/status/878995450354913280) the MCU again, this has been hilarious :lol:

ToTheNines
06-25-2017, 11:59 AM
Ok, so I guess Spider-Man is the nexus between the MCU and the Sonyverse. That's not horrible. Kinda like how the Savage Dragon/TMNT crossovers are canon, but neither universe is saddled with the other's baggage.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-25-2017, 12:42 PM
Ok, so I guess Spider-Man is the nexus between the MCU and the Sonyverse. That's not horrible. Kinda like how the Savage Dragon/TMNT crossovers are canon, but neither universe is saddled with the other's baggage.

I really, REALLY don't understand Sony's thinking in this at all. Instead of going for the long game and long-term success, they're going to blow their wad and burn through any remaining credibility and interest as quickly as possible?

Why? Anyone understand this?

TurtleTitan97
06-25-2017, 12:50 PM
I really, REALLY don't understand Sony's thinking in this at all. Instead of going for the long game and long-term success, they're going to blow their wad and burn through any remaining credibility and interest as quickly as possible?

Why? Anyone understand this?

It's all about making as much $$$ as possible.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-25-2017, 01:33 PM
It's all about making as much $$$ as possible.

See, though, I don't agree that's the case--and I don't think even Sony can believe that will happen.

They'll make more money more quickly, but then they lose out on the long haul and make LESS money in the long haul. It's Sony, most of the Spiderman fans HATE them. :tlol:

ToTheNines
06-25-2017, 01:44 PM
See, though, I don't agree that's the case--and I don't think even Sony can believe that will happen.

They'll make more money more quickly, but then they lose out on the long haul and make LESS money in the long haul. It's Sony, most of the Spiderman fans HATE them. :tlol:

Yeah, they're thinking short term. If it was me, I'd beg Marvel to have the symbiote pair with Peter at some point in A4, even if just in a post-credit scene. Then do a black-suit Spidey movie for Homecoming 2 (why not a Kraven's Last Hunt adaption?), and have him ditch it in the 3rd act.

Then IF YOU MUST, make your silly Venom movie in 2020 and have Homecoming 3 be Spidey vs. Venom in 2021 if it was well received.

The Deadman
06-25-2017, 07:16 PM
These people need to make up their minds. First they arent in the MCU, then they are, then they arent because it had to be CLARIFIED that Venom is in the MARVEL COMICS UNIVERSE?! Like people didnt know this already? Who's writing this?

NinjaPug
06-25-2017, 07:19 PM
These people need to make up their minds. First they arent in the MCU, then they are, then they arent because it had to be CLARIFIED that Venom is in the MARVEL COMICS UNIVERSE?! Like people didnt know this already? Who's writing this?

No one is changing their minds on anything. Amy Pascal said an incorrect statement and clickbait sites ran with it.

TheSkeletonMan939
06-25-2017, 07:20 PM
It's obvious that the partnership seems solid on paper, but the two companies are thinking on VERY different wavelengths in reality. Marvel of course is thinking of the film in terms of its own larger universe, and Sony is trying to just use Spidey to propel whatever properties they have left (Venom, and the Black Cat movie) into public consciousness. That's why dumbass Pascal is saying that Homecoming takes place in 'their world': they're trying to increase interest in Venom solely based on its tenuous (basically nonexistent) connection to Homecoming.

Autbot_Benz
10-03-2017, 09:00 PM
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/10/04/venom-script-fifty-shades-of-grey-kelly-marcel/

Script to be Penned by Fifty Shades of Grey writer Kelly Marcel

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
10-03-2017, 09:05 PM
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/10/04/venom-script-fifty-shades-of-grey-kelly-marcel/

Script to be Penned by Fifty Shades of Grey writer Kelly Marcel

And I thought this whole fiasco couldn't be any funnier! :tlol:

PApagreg
10-03-2017, 10:19 PM
You know a bit off topic but an Agent Venom movie would have great potential, imagine if you combine Aliens with The Hurt Locker with The Kingsmen

ProphetofGanja
10-03-2017, 10:32 PM
Is this real life?

DarkFell
10-03-2017, 11:22 PM
Wasn't there an idea for a Sinister Six movie at one time? If there was, did it die off? That still could work and Venom could still join in, should anything happen to Kraven.

I did look for an S.S. movie trailer on Youtube. All I found were fan-made trailers.

Besides, a S.S. movie could work better than giving (I assuming here) each villain a stand-alone movie. Since some of the Sinister Six members traded punches with other heroes from the Marvel comic universe, Sony could add additional heroes to *begrudgingly* fight alongside the web-slinger, should he appear in the movie.

TheSkeletonMan939
10-04-2017, 06:02 AM
Wasn't there an idea for a Sinister Six movie at one time? If there was, did it die off?

Sony was planning a Sinister Six movie I think to be developed after Amazing Spider-Man 3. One would hope that all those plans washed away after the Disney deal.

Slap-Happy
10-04-2017, 02:38 PM
Sony was planning a Sinister Six movie I think to be developed after Amazing Spider-Man 3. One would hope that all those plans washed away after the Disney deal.
Yeah, Sinister Six is done. Drew Goddard was going to write and direct. Apparently involved Spider-Man having to team up with five villains.

There were discussions about Matt Damon for Doc Ock, and funnily enough, Tom Hardy as the Sandman.

DestronMirage22
10-04-2017, 02:57 PM
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/10/04/venom-script-fifty-shades-of-grey-kelly-marcel/

Script to be Penned by Fifty Shades of Grey writer Kelly Marcel

Hahahaha!!
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Man, this movie's future is not looking good.



Speaking of that cancelled Sinister Six film, we never found out what plans they had for Gustav Fiers (the guy in the shadows) did we?
A shame. Even though those films weren't that good, I was sort of interested in where they'd take that particular plot. Oh well.

Slap-Happy
10-04-2017, 03:03 PM
I don't know that Kelly Marcel writing the script is that bad. She did some work on Bronson, which is one of Hardy's best films. She's apparently good friends with Hardy too, so this might turn out kind of interesting.

TheSkeletonMan939
10-04-2017, 03:39 PM
Speaking of that cancelled Sinister Six film, we never found out what plans they had for Gustav Fiers (the guy in the shadows) did we?
A shame. Even though those films weren't that good, I was sort of interested in where they'd take that particular plot. Oh well.

I wasn't. They almost certainly weren't going to do anything cool with him like make him The Rose or The Big Man or someone like that. He was just a stock "all-knowing sinister informant" character. I really dislike how comic book movies use post-credits scenes now; instead of easter eggs or jokes, they're now used to actually further plot, and in ASM's case there clearly was no plot which they were furthering, just gibberish.

ProphetofGanja
10-06-2017, 08:42 PM
I wasn't. They almost certainly weren't going to do anything cool with him like make him The Rose or The Big Man or someone like that. He was just a stock "all-knowing sinister informant" character. I really dislike how comic book movies use post-credits scenes now; instead of easter eggs or jokes, they're now used to actually further plot, and in ASM's case there clearly was no plot which they were furthering, just gibberish.

Yeah, Sony looked pretty stoopid when all that stuff about Peter's parents and secret agents and whatever the f#ck else was left totally unresolved. They really had no idea what the hell they were doing.

Leofan26
10-07-2017, 12:19 PM
This project still going? I thought it was canceled ages ago.

I haven't heard anything since I heard it was given the green light, than again as a Spider Man fan, I'm not exactly looking forward to this film. It was one of my favorite storylines from the series, imagine how disappointed I was how they did things with the story in Spider Man three than this :lol: