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***First of Two Latin Kings***
03-18-2017, 05:37 PM
...Is basically Mr. Null voiced by Mark Hamill?

Why is this show ending again?

ToTheNines
03-18-2017, 06:14 PM
He has nothing to do with Null.

CyberCubed
03-18-2017, 06:50 PM
He looks more like Draco from the 2k3 series or Hot Head from the old toyline.

TigerClaw
03-18-2017, 07:31 PM
Kavaxas is supposedly the Nick version of the Warrior Dragon who sometimes is called Hothead, In the TMNT Archie Comics he was an Asian fireman who can turn into a giant anthropomorphized dragon, He even became a love interest for April in that comic series.
http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Chu_Hsi

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/b/b3/344241-142318-warrior-dragon.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110609183417

The fact Mikey just called him Hothead on the Nick series, I think its more a throwaway reference.

***First of Two Latin Kings***
03-18-2017, 10:41 PM
Seems to me like Draco, Null, and Noi Tai Dar all rolled into one.

ToTheNines
03-19-2017, 11:01 AM
I think he's the Nick version of Oyuki Mashimi.

Candy Kappa
03-19-2017, 11:15 AM
Why is this show ending again?

Because we can't have nice things.

neatoman
03-19-2017, 11:27 AM
Why is this show ending again?


The ratings flatlined in season 2
Merch doesn't seem to sell anymore
Reboots tend to fix such problems

plastroncafe
03-19-2017, 11:28 AM
Why is this show ending again?

Because you didn't clap hard enough.

kelligrafie
03-19-2017, 11:31 AM
The ratings flatlined in season 2


Or it could be that they're airing it with absolutely no notion of a regular slot/real schedule and nobody knows it's on to watch it. :lol:

ToTheNines
03-19-2017, 11:42 AM
Or it could be that they're airing it with absolutely no notion of a regular slot/real schedule and nobody knows it's on to watch it. :lol:

And they NEVER rerun it during the week on the main channel. Just Nicktoons, which most people don't even get.

I understand you don't want to burn kids out, but hell. If you can dedicate 8 hours a day to sponge Bob, why not share the love a little bit? It's not like the sponge is moving that much merch these days.

Aaronardo
03-19-2017, 03:20 PM
Or it could be that they're airing it with absolutely no notion of a regular slot/real schedule and nobody knows it's on to watch it. :lol:

That and most kids shows in general kinda dropped off the face of the Earth in terms of ratings around the time Season 2 began airing due to streaming services picking up in popularity.

But geez, Nickelodeon's got a pretty broken schedule, and for some reason Cartoon Network is falling suit as well?

CyberCubed
03-19-2017, 07:13 PM
The fact that this show didn't get 7 seasons is a crime.

FredWolfLeonardo
03-19-2017, 07:22 PM
The fact that this show didn't get 7 seasons is a crime.

Atleast the four seasons we got were all fantastic and the fifth might even be the best unlike the previous shows. And be thankful we're not entering another hiatus for years until the next show.

What would the Nick show do for 2 more seasons without shredder anyway? All the previous shows didn't last very long after Shredder was ultimately defeated.

FW lasted for only 16 more episodes after the final episode with Shredder as the main villain,

Next Mutation doesn't need much explaining.

The Shredder also appeared less and less towards the ends of the 4Kids show, whether it be Utrom Shredder, Cyber Shredder, Demon Shredder etc.

Once the Shredder is down, no tmnt show shall reign like it once did.

CyberCubed
03-19-2017, 07:26 PM
I liked all seasons of previous shows, even the weaker ones. There were always good episodes.

FredWolfLeonardo
03-19-2017, 07:39 PM
I liked all seasons of previous shows, even the weaker ones. There were always good episodes.

True, but I am sure neither of them will be as strong overall as the last season of the Nick show, which looks pretty promising. If Ciro says its his favourite season, you know its gonna be great.

ssjup81
03-19-2017, 07:48 PM
True, but I am sure neither of them will be as strong overall as the last season of the Nick show, which looks pretty promising. If Ciro says its his favourite season, you know its gonna be great.I'm under the impression that Ciro and his team had more freedom regarding season 5 if the last two eps of season 4 is any indication.

oldmanwinters
03-19-2017, 08:01 PM
He even became a love interest for April in that comic series. . . .
The fact Mikey just called him Hothead on the Nick series, I think its more a throwaway reference.

Now that I think about it, this version of Hothead also seems to have a fixation on April... just of a completely different tone.:teek:

CyberCubed
03-19-2017, 08:03 PM
We have a lot of dragon characters in TMNT lore. As I said before, he also reminds me of Draco from the 4kids series.

I guess all red dragons look the same.

ToTheNines
03-19-2017, 08:24 PM
FW lasted for only 16 more episodes after the final episode with Shredder as the main villain,

Really, they only went 10 episodes without him, brought him back for 3, then ended the series 3 episodes later.

FredWolfLeonardo
03-19-2017, 09:52 PM
Really, they only went 10 episodes without him, brought him back for 3, then ended the series 3 episodes later.

True definetly, but he wasn't a main villain like before.

You could even argue that the turning point for that show wasn't Season 8 with shredder being the main villain, but season 7 for being the last season with the "classic" feel established since episode 1.

Anyways, back on topic: As awesome as Kavaxas is, he just won't be able to keep the show going like the Shredder did in all incarnations. Its one of the ten commandments of making a turtles show that you have to make Shredder the main villain.

CyberCubed
03-19-2017, 10:07 PM
Pretty sure Kavaxas is only going to last 4 episodes...

Cryomancer
03-19-2017, 11:09 PM
Its one of the ten commandments of making a turtles show that you have to make Shredder the main villain.

Shouldn't be.

neatoman
03-20-2017, 04:17 AM
Alright, so we can pretty much assume Hothead (let's just be honest here, Mikey said it twice, pretty soon other characters will call him that and it's probably what the toy will be labeled as) does indeed bring Shredder back based on the intro, but how will he do it in a way that screws Tiger Claw over?

ToTheNines
03-20-2017, 07:24 AM
He'll probably just be a mindless beast trying to kill everything in sight.

kelligrafie
03-20-2017, 05:25 PM
And they NEVER rerun it during the week on the main channel. Just Nicktoons, which most people don't even get.

I understand you don't want to burn kids out, but hell. If you can dedicate 8 hours a day to sponge Bob, why not share the love a little bit? It's not like the sponge is moving that much merch these days.

I'll just point out that the Nickelodeon European flagship store in London dedicates quite a good portion of the store space to TMNT. Obviously Spongebob gets the most love but the turtles come a very close second.

I'd say it's pretty much a quarter for Spongebob, quarter for TMNT and the remaining half is split between Dora the explorer, paw patrol and older Nick cartoons like Rugrats and Ren & Stimpy.

Stuff like Breadwinners, Loud House and all the live action stuff like the Thundermans, don't really get a look in.

victory_angel
03-20-2017, 05:28 PM
Alright, so we can pretty much assume Hothead (let's just be honest here, Mikey said it twice, pretty soon other characters will call him that and it's probably what the toy will be labeled as) does indeed bring Shredder back based on the intro, but how will he do it in a way that screws Tiger Claw over?

Shredder looks like a zombie in the intro so maybe Zombie Shredder

MarsicornYT
03-20-2017, 09:16 PM
Alright, so we can pretty much assume Hothead (let's just be honest here, Mikey said it twice, pretty soon other characters will call him that and it's probably what the toy will be labeled as) does indeed bring Shredder back based on the intro, but how will he do it in a way that screws Tiger Claw over?

My theory is he might have to sacrifice TigerClaw in order to revive Shredder. Or maybe he has to give Kavaxas that stone thing and then he betrays him.

snake
03-21-2017, 12:53 AM
Alright, so we can pretty much assume Hothead (let's just be honest here, Mikey said it twice, pretty soon other characters will call him that and it's probably what the toy will be labeled as) does indeed bring Shredder back based on the intro, but how will he do it in a way that screws Tiger Claw over?
I'm gonna go with Nines on the "mindless beast" idea. They'd have no other choice than to put Shredder down again.

ssjup81
03-21-2017, 02:24 AM
I'm gonna go with Nines on the "mindless beast" idea. They'd have no other choice than to put Shredder down again.I hope Karai is the one to do it.

ABrown
03-22-2017, 10:45 AM
The fact that this show didn't get 7 seasons is a crime.

You can't EXPECT 7 seasons/150+ episodes with an action cartoon. Look at He-Man and Thundercats. The 2002 He-Man cartoon was amazing and it got a total of two seasons for 39 episodes. The 2011 Thundercats series didn't even get a second season. Five seasons for 100+ episodes is a very good run for the Nick TMNT series.