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ProphetofGanja
03-22-2017, 07:30 PM
https://68.media.tumblr.com/666f70ffe7454899e971abc2b1ed3bd9/tumblr_on8uqo5M5V1qelupoo1_1280.png

Michael Peña (https://www.comicbookmovie.com/ant-man/michael-pea-confirms-hes-reprising-his-role-as-luis-in-ant-man-and-the-wasp-after-all-a149814), one of the best parts of Ant-Man, will return for the sequel.

The first film was pretty good, I'm looking forward to the sequel. Seeing Hope gear-up in the Wasp suit will be dope.

ToTheNines
03-22-2017, 07:36 PM
I'm most excited to see how they deal with the Janet situation. This could be the Godfather II of a superhero movies lol. I'm sure Michael Douglas dosen't mind looking 40 again.

ProphetofGanja
03-22-2017, 07:46 PM
I'm most excited to see how they deal with the Janet situation. This could be the Godfather II of a superhero movies lol. I'm sure Michael Douglas dosen't mind looking 40 again.

Yeah I do hope we find out what happened to her. What you mean by the Godfather II comparison? Never seen any of those movies

ToTheNines
03-22-2017, 07:54 PM
Dude... buy them now. The first 2, eff part 3. If you're not blown away I will paypal you the reimbursement.

(The story structure of Part II is a constant flashback/present day deal. That would fit this movie well, I think).

DestronMirage22
03-22-2017, 10:47 PM
I'm really excited for this movie. The 1st one turned out to be a surprisingly great film, and I hope this surpases its predecessor. Wonder who'll be the main villain, as Ant-Man doesn't have a big rouges gallery, and the last guy was pretty much made up and given one of their aliases' name.

TheSkeletonMan939
08-28-2017, 05:07 PM
First look at the costume for the Wasp!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIWBvqyXUAAQGH3.jpg

Annnnnddd it sucks.

NinjaPug
08-28-2017, 05:48 PM
I liked the version (mainly the brighter yellow) from the Ant-Man credits scene more. All of the colors of he costume are too dark.

TheSkeletonMan939
08-28-2017, 05:54 PM
Yeah, she's a WASP. Where's the yellow???

ToTheNines
08-28-2017, 06:24 PM
Looks like an Agents of Shield costume. Need to see the full helmet/mask before making my mind up.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-28-2017, 07:00 PM
Well, there are red wasps in nature...

But I am very, very disappointed to not see a yellow Wasp costume. :tsad:

EDITED: We're all jumping the gun. The official teaser poster and the logo show the yellow and black color scheme. I'm reading elsewhere that apparently her suit glows yellow when it's active? So never mind, all good in the hood...

ProphetofGanja
08-28-2017, 08:16 PM
Not bad.

I wonder who the villain in this is supposed to be, or if it will be a past/present story going on

DestronMirage22
08-29-2017, 08:40 AM
EDITED: We're all jumping the gun. The official teaser poster and the logo show the yellow and black color scheme. I'm reading elsewhere that apparently her suit glows yellow when it's active? So never mind, all good in the hood...

Good to hear.
I was worried that she'd have that drab costume for the whole film.
We need our classic yellow Wasp.

ProphetofGanja
12-02-2017, 02:54 PM
Ant-Man & the Wasp is Reportedly Marvel's First Romantic Comedy (https://www.cbr.com/ant-man-wasp-marvel-romantic-comedy/)

Cure
12-02-2017, 02:55 PM
Oh good. Good good good.

TigerClaw
12-02-2017, 03:53 PM
Ant-Man & the Wasp is Reportedly Marvel's First Romantic Comedy (https://www.cbr.com/ant-man-wasp-marvel-romantic-comedy/)
That's interesting, they can work on the romance stuff in between all the action.

TheSkeletonMan939
12-02-2017, 04:12 PM
Ant-Man & the Wasp is Reportedly Marvel's First Romantic Comedy (https://www.cbr.com/ant-man-wasp-marvel-romantic-comedy/)

https://78.media.tumblr.com/78e42e67d857885594009a81f7a493fd/tumblr_inline_oyl8htwTYq1t4zvyp_500.jpg

Candy Kappa
12-02-2017, 05:15 PM
I'm up for a Super romcom. We've gotten a Super Western, Spy Thriller and soon a Super Horror with New Mutants so this could be fun.

Cure
12-02-2017, 05:33 PM
I'm up for a Super romcom. We've gotten a Super Western, Spy Thriller and soon a Super Horror with New Mutants so this could be fun.

My Super Ex-Girlfriend!

Coola Yagami
12-02-2017, 06:21 PM
Luis is one of the best parts. Glad he's back in.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
12-02-2017, 06:28 PM
Ant-Man & the Wasp is Reportedly Marvel's First Romantic Comedy (https://www.cbr.com/ant-man-wasp-marvel-romantic-comedy/)

Well... it could be very good or it could be very bad.

I'm going to be optimistic and not let this news diminish my expectations at all. :tsmile:

DestronMirage22
12-02-2017, 11:21 PM
Ant-Man & the Wasp is Reportedly Marvel's First Romantic Comedy (https://www.cbr.com/ant-man-wasp-marvel-romantic-comedy/)

Pretty unexpected, but if anyone can pull it off and actually make it great, it’d be Marvel.
I’m sure it’ll be good.

Andrew NDB
12-03-2017, 04:19 AM
Sounds good to me.

On another note... I wonder if anyone when AM2 was even in pre-production ever so much as sent an Email to Edgar Wright to see if he'd be interested.

ZariusTwo
12-03-2017, 06:25 AM
Pretty unexpected

Unexpected? Most of their movies are nothing but comedy.

ProphetofGanja
12-03-2017, 08:08 AM
I'm up for a Super romcom. We've gotten a Super Western, Spy Thriller and soon a Super Horror with New Mutants so this could be fun.

What super western movie has there been? I'd be interested in seeing that

My Super Ex-Girlfriend!

Was that movie any good? I remember seeing a trailer but I never got around to seeing the actual film

Luis is one of the best parts. Glad he's back in.

For real

Sounds good to me.

On another note... I wonder if anyone when AM2 was even in pre-production ever so much as sent an Email to Edgar Wright to see if he'd be interested.

I would guess no, I feel like Marvel feels some type of way about him not falling in line and playing by their rules

But they managed to make the first Ant-Man film one of my MCU favorites so I have high hopes for the second one too

TheSkeletonMan939
12-03-2017, 08:33 AM
What super western movie has there been? I'd be interested in seeing that

Logan is a bit like a western.

- Main character is an oft-quiet wanderer, doesn't have much of a set home
- Has a "code of honor", albeit one he has become confused about and ambivalent of
- Used to be a crimefighter, now is a drunk who is forced to revisit his former glory
- Stays away from cities for the most part, 95% of the film takes place in rural or generally unpopulated environments
- Incredible stunts and choreography are not featured, fighting is more frenzied and raw
- Beats you over the head that it's a western by using footage from another western :trazz:

Candy Kappa
12-03-2017, 07:43 PM
What super western movie has there been? I'd be interested in seeing that

Logan is basically a Western in it's themes and the way it's shot.

Cure
12-03-2017, 07:47 PM
Was that movie any good? I remember seeing a trailer but I never got around to seeing the actual film

Nah, not really.

Andrew NDB
01-18-2018, 03:58 PM
People are upset because Wasp has a penis on her stomach:

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/01/18/internet-marvels-wasp-costume-sexual-imagery/

Candy Kappa
01-18-2018, 04:01 PM
People are upset because Wasp has a penis on her stomach:

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/01/18/internet-marvels-wasp-costume-sexual-imagery/

Thanks Andrew, now I'll never unsee it:lol:

TurtleTitan97
01-18-2018, 04:03 PM
People are upset because Wasp has a penis on her stomach:

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/01/18/internet-marvels-wasp-costume-sexual-imagery/

People are stupid.

TigerClaw
01-18-2018, 04:30 PM
People are upset because Wasp has a penis on her stomach:

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/01/18/internet-marvels-wasp-costume-sexual-imagery/
That's too funny. :lol:

ProphetofGanja
01-19-2018, 08:40 AM
People are upset because Wasp has a penis on her stomach:

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/01/18/internet-marvels-wasp-costume-sexual-imagery/

Anything can look like a dick; this should be a non-issue.

I hope we get a preview soon, the movie is less than five months away now

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
01-19-2018, 08:49 AM
People are upset because Wasp has a penis on her stomach:

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/01/18/internet-marvels-wasp-costume-sexual-imagery/

Ridiculous.

plastroncafe
01-19-2018, 08:52 AM
This is what they get for having boob armor.

ProphetofGanja
01-19-2018, 08:59 AM
This is what they get for having boob armor.

:lol: yeah it's pretty wildly impractical. I gotta admit though, I find it kinda hot ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and then again, pretty much all spandex superhero outfits are impractical and defy the laws of physics

Plastron, which do you think is more ridiculous: Wonder Woman's boobie breastplate or Red Sonja's chainmail bikini?

https://emojipedia-us.s3.amazonaws.com/socialmedia/apple/118/thinking-face_1f914.png

plastroncafe
01-19-2018, 09:17 AM
Are we grading on a curve?

:D

In reality?
I find both wildly impractical. Titillation, pun intended, is the only reason for either. They exist solely to cater to the male gaze.

People can, and do, fanwank any reason for their existence in a story.
"It shows how good a warrior she is that she doesn't fear going into battle without traditional armor!
"It's her body, and she should be able to just play it however she wants!"

Except for the fact that these are fictional characters who don't actually get to make their own decisions, so both of those arguments are invalid as far as I'm concerned.

That said, what kind of a queer woman would I be if I didn't also like to look at pictures of pretty ladies?

In fiction, it really depends on the artist and the story.
I loved Wonderwoman's bustier in her movie. First of all it didn't have individual boob socks, secondly it at least gave the appearance of being inspired by gladiatorial armor.

Plus that movie didn't focus on her ass for no reason. A nice touch.

Gail Simone's Red Sonja was awesome, partly because at no point did I feel like Sonia was there for me to oggle at. She was too busy being awesome. And when she was sexy, she maintained all of her agency. She was sexy because we were supposed to find her sexy in a time when she was being portrayed as seeking sex.

Overall, I'm going to have to say that I find red sonja's outfit to be the more ridiculous of the two.
But I'm not opposed to either, provided the story they appear in is about more than trying to show her boobs an butt in the same shot.

To bring this back to wasp, that costume design is hideous.
And it just kind of makes me wonder if the art Department doesn't actually know how boobs work.

Allio
01-19-2018, 09:47 AM
Except for the fact that these are fictional characters who don't actually get to make their own decisions, so both of those arguments are invalid as far as I'm concerned.


Honestly the same reason I can't figure out why people get so upset over topics like this. Like it's a fictional character, them showing skin literally has no effect on you.

plastroncafe
01-19-2018, 09:59 AM
Honestly the same reason I can't figure out why people get so upset over topics like this. Like it's a fictional character, them showing skin literally has no effect on you.

I disagree.
They are not doing anything, because they aren't real.
What is real are the artists who draw the characters, and they're doing so for a reason. The artists don't exist in a vacuum, and neither dies their work. The devil is in them their details.

Our popular culture says something about us. The stories we tell, the media we ingest, holds a mirror up to our social mores.

YMMV.

Allio
01-19-2018, 10:26 AM
Granted I don't call a man a psychopath for creating a slasher movie where teenagers get brutally murdered like in Hatchet.

Andrew NDB
01-19-2018, 10:53 AM
This isn't "The Iliad," this is "Ant-Man & The Wasp." It's not supposed to be high art and no one of sound mind should or is expecting it to be.

That said, I dislike boob armor. It's not practical at all. It's been proven to actually hurt more than it would help, as it would redirect sword blows (or even bullets, I'd imagine) in towards the sternum.

ProphetofGanja
01-19-2018, 11:17 AM
Overall, I'm going to have to say that I find red sonja's outfit to be the more ridiculous of the two.
But I'm not opposed to either, provided the story they appear in is about more than trying to show her boobs an butt in the same shot.


Yeah, that's always ridiculous (see this cover of Empowered & Sistah Spooky's High School Hell that I saw in the April Dark Horse solicitations for an example)

https://static1.cbrimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/DIAP-353-EMPOWSS-5.jpg?q=35&w=864&h=1307&fit=crop

TigerClaw
01-19-2018, 11:20 AM
If you look closely, the designs on the chest are supposed to look like an Ant, and Wasp.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26903734_10215476790538116_6394430207324358078_n.j pg?oh=5c84f428afacc575e81182073530f197&oe=5AE69CF5

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
01-19-2018, 11:26 AM
If you look closely, the designs on the chest are supposed to look like an Ant, and Wasp.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26903734_10215476790538116_6394430207324358078_n.j pg?oh=5c84f428afacc575e81182073530f197&oe=5AE69CF5

I saw that earlier, and I think that is really really cool. :tcool:

plastroncafe
01-19-2018, 11:29 AM
I get what they were going for, but...nyeeeeaah.
I'm sure at some point during the movie I'll stop giggling.
Maybe.

Yeah, that's always ridiculous (see this cover of Empowered & Sistah Spooky's High School Hell that I saw in the April Dark Horse solicitations for an example)

https://static1.cbrimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/DIAP-353-EMPOWSS-5.jpg?q=35&w=864&h=1307&fit=crop

HA! Nice!
When I see this sort of thing I can't help but automatically go and reread Hark! A Vagrant! on
Strong Female Characters (http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php/index.php?id=311)

Sumac
01-19-2018, 12:26 PM
But I'm not opposed to either, provided the story they appear in is about more than trying to show her boobs an butt in the same shot.
What kind of feminist you are?
Horrible just horrible!! :tlol:
/joke

Our popular culture says something about us. The stories we tell, the media we ingest, holds a mirror up to our social mores.
So, what's the end game here?
All artists ideally should stop drawing sexy women and men?
Because, it won't happen. Sex is hardwired into humans - they find sexy anything, which Internet is living prove of and will continue to sexualize everything. No amount of cries will stop it.

ProphetofGanja
01-19-2018, 12:46 PM
HA! Nice!
When I see this sort of thing I can't help but automatically go and reread Hark! A Vagrant! on
Strong Female Characters (http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php/index.php?id=311)

Oh man those are pretty hilarious. There's far too many ridiculously bad and overused tropes pertaining to "strong female characters"

The Deadman
01-30-2018, 07:43 AM
8_rTIAOohas

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
01-30-2018, 08:42 AM
8_rTIAOohas

Aw hell yeah. HELL YEAH!

ProphetofGanja
01-30-2018, 09:03 AM
Looks pretty dope

plastroncafe
01-30-2018, 09:29 AM
Oh yeah, I'll be there.

Andrew NDB
01-30-2018, 09:44 AM
I was already on board but that trailer is a little... meh. I'm guessing they want to save Michelle Pfeiffer for the next trailer?

ProphetofGanja
01-30-2018, 10:00 AM
I was already on board but that trailer is a little... meh. I'm guessing they want to save Michelle Pfeiffer for the next trailer?

Probably. I could even see them holding off on revealing her return until right before the film is released or the week of.

People who have been following news about the film are aware that Pfeiffer was cast as Janet so obviously she's in the movie in some capacity but the average movie-goer who just sees movies when they come out likely has no idea what the broad strokes of the plot are.

Candy Kappa
01-30-2018, 10:11 AM
That trailer was fun, I'm looking forward to this

Autbot_Benz
01-30-2018, 10:44 AM
I love Hank can just shrink the house and the car. That is awesome.

ranger_scout
01-30-2018, 09:41 PM
I have to say that this really looks like it will be another exciting chapter of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. A lot of people had their doubts about the first one before it was released with the change of directors, but everything turned out just fine and the movie was one of my favorite films released during the summer of 2015. I really like how the Wasp will get to shine in this one.

sdp
01-30-2018, 10:12 PM
I can't believe there's a sequel movie to Ant-Man and it's going to do gangbusters, the Marvel movie brand has really become that powerful?

I mean I think it's awesome, I love (some incarnations) of Ant-Man and Wasp, so to see these underused heroes get a hyped movie is just crazy to me when the character was never big enough to hold a comic book title for long or ever having a solo cartoon, hell he's not even featured in most Avengers cartoons and wasn't in the first movie.

Andrew NDB
01-30-2018, 10:16 PM
I can't believe there's a sequel movie to Ant-Man and it's going to do gangbusters, the Marvel movie brand has really become that powerful?

I wouldn't count the chickens before they're hatched. While MCU sequels do tend to do more money than the previous movie, Ant-Man 1 was one of the lowest grossing MCU movies of all.

TigerClaw
01-31-2018, 05:14 AM
Loved the trailer. its cool to see stuff we never seen before with the shrinking technology. Shrinking a building to the size of a luggage, a car chase which the car shrinks and grows back flipping another car on top of it. this movie is going to be a whole lot of fun.

Splinter the boss
01-31-2018, 04:31 PM
I'm indeed watching this😀😀
In fact, I'm gonna watch the first Ant Man movie (Haven't watched it yet).

Sumac
01-31-2018, 06:02 PM
I need to watch almost all Marvel movies after Avengers 2.
Gladly most of them on YouTube available for pay-per-view.

NinjaPug
04-30-2018, 07:01 PM
-l7TOYJZBtI

DWC
04-30-2018, 07:05 PM
Looking forward to it, the first was excellent.

I first seen Evangeline Lilly in Lost last summer. She's one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen :o

ProphetofGanja
04-30-2018, 08:51 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/T3fwN6Pbm3ZPa/giphy.gif

ProactiveMan
04-30-2018, 10:26 PM
It's weird having it come out between he two parts of Infinity War. It's kind of like, 'here's the biggest thing ever', followed by the further adventures of 'some guy' and friends.

'The events of Infinity War may have been universe changing, but in Ant-Man, They made Thomas the Tank Engine real big! Maybe in Ant-Man and the Wasp they'll make a huge Tazo or something?!'

sdp
04-30-2018, 10:31 PM
Wait, Ant-Man and Wasp haven't even been in an Avengers movie? Where is the outrage? They're founding members.

The latest movie literally featured a huge chunk of the Marvel cast since it's more of a crossover event than a proper Avengers film.


But to answer to your question, sometimes it's nice to have something more low key when big events are happening in a fictional universe, I always liked stuff like that.

Vicky82
05-01-2018, 10:42 AM
New Trailer

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Krutch
05-01-2018, 10:53 AM
I first seen Evangeline Lilly in Lost last summer. She's one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen :o
It's funny when you go back and watch the first few seasons of Smallville where she's a regular background performer. She eventually has a featured role (one scene and no words though) but its funny to see her constantly wandering the halls of the highschool.

DWC
05-01-2018, 11:51 AM
It's funny when you go back and watch the first few seasons of Smallville where she's a regular background performer. She eventually has a featured role (one scene and no words though) but its funny to see her constantly wandering the halls of the highschool.

I didn't even know she was in Smallville. I've only seen a few episodes of it, though.

sdp
05-01-2018, 11:55 AM
Trailer looks good, costumes are a bit boring and reek of X-Men 2000. I love that Wasp is getting such a push, she doesn't feel like a sidekick based on the trailer. This Wasp isn't Janet Pymm I suppose since Hank is an old man :(

I wonder if post Avengers 4 we'll finally be able to get a real Avengers movie with the core 5 Cap/Hulk/Iron Man/Ant-Man/Wasp instead of a Crossover movie like what it's become.

raph27
05-01-2018, 05:05 PM
Looks like a pretty fun movie, just like the first. Some of that CGI was rough, though. Wasp in the van especially.

Coola Yagami
05-01-2018, 05:31 PM
This might be happening during. Like maybe the news tv features the sky doughnut in NY or the movie ends with him or Wasp evaporating.

Andrew NDB
05-14-2018, 10:27 AM
I'm still thinking this might after. Didn't "Infinity War" literally say Ant-Man wasn't there because he was on house arrest... and the trailers for Ant-Man & The Wasp show him on house arrest and then coming off house arrest? That definitely suggests after, or at the very least simultaneous to "Infinity War."

ProphetofGanja
05-14-2018, 07:20 PM
I would say it's likely mostly set before the events of Infinity War, with maybe some of it taking place afterwards

This (https://nerdist.com/ant-man-wasp-mcu-timeline-exclusive/) was posted on Nerdist recently and confirms that there were some reshoots done, maybe to provide more context regarding the events of Infinity War

Andrew NDB
06-07-2018, 10:34 AM
Here's Pfeiffer:

http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/ant-man-and-the-wasp-poster-michelle-pfeiffer-405x600.jpg

ProphetofGanja
06-07-2018, 12:13 PM
So, what do y'all think she's been doing in the Quantum Realm this whole time, making small talk? :lol:

ZariusTwo
06-23-2018, 12:16 PM
Film has been screened to the press. Feedback positive. There are two post credit scenes.

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/06/23/ant-man-and-the-wasp-reactions-2-spoilers/

ProphetofGanja
06-24-2018, 09:50 AM
Wow, finally this movie is less than two weeks away. It seems like it'll be as good as Infinity War but significantly lighter in tone. I'm really curious how it's going to connect to Infinity War and Avengers 4

Shark_Blade
06-24-2018, 09:57 AM
Here's Pfeiffer:

http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/ant-man-and-the-wasp-poster-michelle-pfeiffer-405x600.jpg

Yass Queen. :tlove:

I know that she’s in it eventhough she’s missing from all trailers. She’s a secret character?

Mayhem
06-25-2018, 01:44 AM
I know that she’s in it eventhough she’s missing from all trailers. She’s a secret character?
As far as I know, she's Janet van Dyne... as in Hank's lost wife...

ProphetofGanja
06-25-2018, 01:11 PM
Yeah, she's not really a "secret character", considering she's been featured on posters for the film and we know who she's playing. But they are still keeping under wraps just exactly how Ant-Man and the Wasp find her and rescue her

Andrew NDB
07-06-2018, 11:18 AM
Well, has anyone seen it yet? The reviews I'm seeing online are mostly, "It painfully follows the same formula as all Marvel movie sequels ever, and plays things way too safe" but still "I'd watch a part 3."

Krutch
07-06-2018, 11:34 PM
Well, has anyone seen it yet? The reviews I'm seeing online are mostly, "It painfully follows the same formula as all Marvel movie sequels ever, and plays things way too safe" but still "I'd watch a part 3."

Yep, pretty much my take. Though I went in expecting exactly that, so, I enjoyed it for what it was.

plastroncafe
07-07-2018, 12:20 AM
I really liked it, though it was missing some of the magic that Edgar Wright brought to the project.

Andrew NDB
07-07-2018, 01:47 AM
Saw it. Yep, kind of exactly what I was expecting. But I liked it. Fun! A lot of fun. Just as clever as the first one and some really well-staged, well thought out action pieces. Definitely a nice change of pace after "Infinity War." Lots of what I have to assume to be adlibbing, but it actually works out quite funny here.

No bad guy! There's like, no one that really Ant-Man gets pitted against. Even the FBI guy that keeps hounding Ant-Man is made to be super likeable. Walton Goggins is more buffoonery than legitimate Big Bad, and Ghost begins as kind of scary and then quickly becomes super sympathetic victim that's just trying to stay alive. Which SOUNDS like a good villain on paper, but it's played up much like the female Mummy in the last Mummy movie, where almost every scene hammers home that the Mummy has been horribly victimized and is perfectly redeemable. And then the movie actually cures Ghost out of nowhere... and then has no idea what to do with her. I was expecting her to do some kind of big thing to save everyone to show her gratitude, or go even nuttier and go down in a crazy spree, or... something. Anything. And the the ending of the movie is fairly abrupt and unexpectedly blase.

Sidenote: did it strike anyone as weird that we're told it's been 2 years since Civil War? Does that jive with everything else?

AT-Man
07-07-2018, 03:44 AM
Sidenote: did it strike anyone as weird that we're told it's been 2 years since Civil War? Does that jive with everything else?

No, because aren't they supposed to happen approximately in the current day? In Infinity War Tony said "Thanos has been in my head for 6 years" meaning since the first Avengers.

The only one that doesn't fit the overall picture is Homecoming, which supposedly happens 8 years after Avengers BUT also weeks/months after Civil War? Either they totally messed it up or there will be some kind of time shenanigans involved.

plastroncafe
07-07-2018, 07:39 AM
Maybe I just read one too many X-Men comics, but blips in the continuity like that just make the MCU feel more like its source material.

For me it's a feature not a bug.

raph27
07-07-2018, 05:12 PM
The only one that doesn't fit the overall picture is Homecoming, which supposedly happens 8 years after Avengers BUT also weeks/months after Civil War? Either they totally messed it up or there will be some kind of time shenanigans involved.

Kevin Feige admitted that the "8 Years Later" was a mistake. Dunno how that slipped by, but oh well. So ignoring that, we can assume that Avengers takes place in 2012, Civil War, Black Panther, and Homecoming all took place in 2016, and Infinity War and this movie took place in 2018.

Overall thoughts on the film: it was enjoyable. Nothing super special, but a nice feel-good summer movie. Paul Rudd is at his best here.

More detailed thoughts: I really enjoyed Ghost, though I agree with Andrew that she could have used some sort of resolution. Maybe she'll show up again in a future movie?

For a movie called Ant-Man and the Wasp, I feel like there wasn't very much actual team up work between the two, at least, as their superhero counterparts. There was a lot of moments between Scott and Hope, but that's not exactly the same.

I really wish Janet hadn't been shown in the marketing. That kind of dampened the big reveal. Though the Quantum Realm scenes were still beautiful.

Anyone else think Michael Douglas seemed kind of off during most of the movie? I can't exactly describe why, and maybe it was intentional, but he just seemed... shaky, I guess.

And the mid credits scene. Holy ****. Predicted Wasp would go, but the whole family was devastating.

Another sidenote: there was a Jurassic World amount of product placement in this movie. The Froot Loops, those pastry things, the PEZ, Hot Wheels, I think there were even more that I'm forgetting now.

plastroncafe
07-07-2018, 05:16 PM
I'm thinking that...
We'll see Ghost again, given that Scott was going to the Quantum Realm to get more energy for her.

And that the canister of healing energy is going to play a role in the next Avengers movie.

sdp
07-07-2018, 05:56 PM
Maybe I just read one too many X-Men comics, but blips in the continuity like that just make the MCU feel more like its source material.

For me it's a feature not a bug.

Nah, that's dumb, I made that joke before for Fox's X-Men but it was tongue in cheek since it was like the comics. I do love continuity though but I think strict timelines of when events happen in most shows/movies is a bit dumb because it restricts creative freedom. I think it's easier to fit different stories when there isn't a strict timeline of events, at least dated events, these movies need wiggle room.

ranger_scout
07-07-2018, 08:00 PM
I thought this was such a fun film. There's just a great amount of chemistry between the cast and there are so many likable characters. Plus, it was nice to see Michelle Pfeiffer go from playing a dark and twisted villain like Catwoman in a D.C. Comics film to smart and wise motherly figure in this one. It was just what the Marvel Cinematic Universe needed following the very dramatic ending of Avengers: Infinity War.

Except for of course the mid-credits scene where Hope, Hank and Janet met the same fate as half of the world's population in Avengers: Infinity War. Scott's fate in that film makes sense how. It'll be interesting to see how the remaining heroes will find him. The de-aging done on Michael Douglas was very well-done. Pfeiffer obviously didn't need it as much, but she still looked great in both the past and present scenes.

Andrew NDB
07-07-2018, 11:32 PM
Yeah

Ghost will definitely be back. Like, that was clearly part of the mission statement in this movie. Like, "Make sure and introduce Ghost! Find a spot for her! We need her for _____." But then they didn't really make her part work, entirely. Not in the third act. My suspicion is that she'll pop up in something else (POSSIBLY Avengers 4) as some kind of deus ex machina.

One thing that occurred to me. Maybe this is a big deal and maybe it's not... but in Infinity War, they mention that the reason they don't have Scott (or Hawkeye) is because he's on house arrest, right? And the Sekovia stuff. Now, I'm sure there's a little bit of a time lapse at the end of Ant-Man and the Wasp... clearly at least a month or two has passed between Hank Pym presenting Janet with her new house on the water and the mid-credits scene with actively doing Quantum experiments with Scott, yes? Well that's at least a couple months that Scott has been released from house arrest. This brings up a couple of things:

1) We know that Infinity War plays out over a day or so. Scott wasn't, like, in a vacuum prior to the events of the mid-credits scene. Why would he have no clue about all the Thanos goings-on?

2) We have to assume the Avengers would at least attempt to reach out to Scott Lang. Infinity War made sense when it said he was still on house arrest (and even then, the assumption is that they at least attempted to hit him up)... but now that we've seen "Ant-Man & the Wasp" we know that he absolutely wasn't on house arrest during the events of Infinity War. Like, not even close. So...?

Mayhem
07-08-2018, 03:16 PM
So the film is set closer to Infinity War than Civil War? But before or after...?

XERO
07-08-2018, 09:18 PM
The film itself is 2 years after Civil War but before Infinity War.

The mid-credits scene is towards the end of Infinity War.

drgon78
07-08-2018, 09:22 PM
I saw it Friday, it was good, funny, and entertaining.

psychturtle
07-08-2018, 09:48 PM
There’s were parts I liked. But this one just felt meh and empty to me. I put it on same level as Thor: The Dark World (cringe parts, weak villain, cheesy ending). Post credit scene was my favorite part :tgrin:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
07-14-2018, 01:34 PM
Loved it. Loved it a lot.

This was the MCU's "The Search for Spock", and for that, I don't think Janet was underused. She was the raison d'etre or whatever for this movie.

Also loved that there were no true villains, just a bunch of different obstacles... Sonny Burch (the doofus), Ava and Bill Foster, and Jimmy Woo and the cops.

Only complaint was that Scott Lang DID seem to drop a few IQ points in order to necessitate some of the movie's plot development. I'd rather the writers found a different way to set up necessary events.

Oh, and Cassie was adorable. Just adorable.

ProphetofGanja
07-15-2018, 06:22 AM
Loved it. Loved it a lot.

This was the MCU's "The Search for Spock", and for that, I don't think Janet was underused. She was the raison d'etre or whatever for this movie.

Also loved that there were no true villains, just a bunch of different obstacles... Sonny Burch (the doofus), Ava and Bill Foster, and Jimmy Woo and the cops.

Only complaint was that Scott Lang DID seem to drop a few IQ points in order to necessitate some of the movie's plot development. I'd rather the writers found a different way to set up necessary events.

Oh, and Cassie was adorable. Just adorable.

I also loved that there was no "main" villain, just separate sets of people all trying to get the same thing. It was a welcome change from the first Ant-Man movie which was good but suffered from the Marvel problem of having a villain who was simply a dark version of the hero, with the same power set. I think I liked Ant-Man and the Wasp more than the first one, which for me makes it only the second MCU sequel to surpass the original (the other being The Winter Soldier). I also liked that the stakes were so much lower in this film; the whole world wasn't at risk, it was just a man and his daughter trying to get their wife/mother back, with Scott trying to help them while avoiding being caught violating his house arrest

There’s were parts I liked. But this one just felt meh and empty to me. I put it on same level as Thor: The Dark World (cringe parts, weak villain, cheesy ending). Post credit scene was my favorite part :tgrin:

Man what? The Dark World has got to be the absolute worst MCU film; this one was way better than that. To each their own I guess

Coola Yagami
07-15-2018, 11:13 PM
I enjoyed it. It was different. The first movie was more of a heist movie, this one was more of a rescue mission. It was refreshing to see Ghost get her happy ending since usually a tragic villain, no matter how tragic, gets killed or arrested anyway. Luis was a highlight and I'm glad he came back. The truth serum running gag was hilarious. I even liked that the FBI guy wasn't the usual douche that shoots first and asks questions later. You can tell he's a great guy and he's just doing his job.

XERO
07-16-2018, 02:19 AM
It was refreshing to see Ghost get her happy ending since usually a tragic villain, no matter how tragic, gets killed or arrested anyway.

Not necessarily a happy ending for Ghost:

I mean, sure, Janet used her powers she manifested from the Quantum Realm to ease Ghost's pain and flux, but that was only a temporary solution. That's why Ant-Man went back to the Quantum Realm to retrieve more Quantum matter into the device that could contain it.

Unfortunately, Thanos f*cked that all up. And now Hope, Janet and Hank are eradicated, and Scott is trapped inside the Quantum Realm. As for Ghost... she may be still alive, but we don't know for sure. So it's not much of a happy ending, more like a bittersweet cliffhanger, if that makes sense?

Coola Yagami
07-16-2018, 07:30 AM
Not necessarily a happy ending for Ghost:

I mean, sure, Janet used her powers she manifested from the Quantum Realm to ease Ghost's pain and flux, but that was only a temporary solution. That's why Ant-Man went back to the Quantum Realm to retrieve more Quantum matter into the device that could contain it.

Unfortunately, Thanos f*cked that all up. And now Hope, Janet and Hank are eradicated, and Scott is trapped inside the Quantum Realm. As for Ghost... she may be still alive, but we don't know for sure. So it's not much of a happy ending, more like a bittersweet cliffhanger, if that makes sense?

Yeah, the whole thing ended on a cliffhanger. Antman is basically screwed.

XERO
07-17-2018, 06:58 PM
Yeah, the whole thing ended on a cliffhanger. Antman is basically screwed.

But he escaped before in the first Ant-Man by using the gadget that makes him bigger, so what's stopping him from just doing that again?

ProphetofGanja
07-17-2018, 07:36 PM
But he escaped before in the first Ant-Man by using the gadget that makes him bigger, so what's stopping him from just doing that again?

Different suit.

XERO
07-17-2018, 10:46 PM
Sounds like a minor setback in that category.

ProactiveMan
07-18-2018, 11:48 PM
Where did Michelle Pfeiffer get new clothes from when she was in nanospace? Also... she seemed remarkably sane for someone who had spent half of her life isolated in a psychedelic nightmare.

Vicky82
08-04-2018, 09:46 AM
Finally came out in the UK this week.

I saw it today, I enjoyed it.

I had a feeling that the mid credit scene Was going to be a disintegrate moment. I was right it was going to be Hope (as her actress said she had a very small part in Avengers 4) and Hank turning into dust.

Coola Yagami
08-04-2018, 02:41 PM
Where did Michelle Pfeiffer get new clothes from when she was in nanospace? Also... she seemed remarkably sane for someone who had spent half of her life isolated in a psychedelic nightmare.

For all we know she went through insanity and back during that time frame. Aftera a while you realize to survive, sanity is all you have left to cling to.

ranger_scout
08-12-2018, 01:18 PM
The film crossed the $200 million mark here in North America. I'm glad that the movie reached this milestone because I really enjoyed it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/08/11/mamma-mia-2-and-ant-man-and-the-wasp-pass-major-box-office-milestones/#66e082f22aca