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Fishface
04-12-2017, 06:54 PM
Which would the fans rather?

Option A: A 6th Season of the 2012 Series?

Option B: A new series to be released in late 2017 which seems to be happening already.

Autbot_Benz
04-12-2017, 06:57 PM
How about Option C We are getting a new show in 2018 called Rise of the TMNT

snake
04-12-2017, 07:12 PM
6th season following the arc format for sure. Maybe they could tackle the Battle Nexus. I love that idea.

DestronMirage22
04-12-2017, 07:38 PM
I choose Option C: None of the Above.
No use prolonging a show that isn't doing good, or introducing a newer one that'll have worse quality.

CyberCubed
04-12-2017, 07:50 PM
I choose Option C: None of the Above.
No use prolonging a show that isn't doing good, or introducing a newer one that'll have worse quality.

The current show is very good, and I would much have preferred to see it get at least 7 seasons before it ran its course.

Likewise, the show we have confirmed sounds like it's going the Teen Titans Go route, so I can't see why anyone would think that would be better.

Powder
04-12-2017, 08:38 PM
While it seems like they'll be ending the series on a high note, & I'm excited at the idea of something new, I would've preferred a sixth season to come out first.

Utrommaniac
04-12-2017, 08:46 PM
With that in mind, though, I did realize that it does seem to be hitting it's "rock bottom".

In the 1990's "rock bottom" meant the over-the-top "goofiness" of Next Mutation and the stage musicals, as well as the two direct to video "musicals".

Today's over the top "goofiness" means something of the Teen Titains Go! variety. Which I think is inevitable, it's happened every time with a new variety of TMNT. Starts off high, and hits a rot a few years in when new writers don't know what to do with what they've got.

Then after a few years, there's a "breathing period", such as it was with the 4Kids show until it gets its own rot, and so on and so forth.

Like some kind of f*cked up circle of life.

CyberCubed
04-12-2017, 08:48 PM
Unfortunately the new show will probably be a hit with kids. Look at how insanely popular Teen Titans Go is, it just got renewed for a 4th season. And other similar shows on CN and Nick.

If that's the case the only TMNT cartoon on the air for the next few years might be just a silly parody show. Very unfortunate.

sdp
04-12-2017, 08:59 PM
I don't really like the CG show too much and I think Rise of the TMNT is going to be awesome for me. Even then I would've preferred a sixth season of the CG show for the sole fact that it was doing interesting stuff and I would've liked to have seen more of that universe before it left, even if I don't love it. Getting a new TMNT show was going to happen eventually anyway but not getting another season of the current incarnation.

CyberCubed
04-12-2017, 09:16 PM
I don't really like the CG show too much and I think Rise of the TMNT is going to be awesome for me. Even then I would've preferred a sixth season of the CG show for the sole fact that it was doing interesting stuff and I would've liked to have seen more of that universe before it left, even if I don't love it. Getting a new TMNT show was going to happen eventually anyway but not getting another season of the current incarnation.

How do you know you'll love it? We know nothing about the new series other than a comedy approach. The Nick cartoon was already based in comedy, so a show even more based on that type of loud comedy that Teen Titans Go is known for doesn't give the impression we're going to get a quality show.

sdp
04-12-2017, 11:04 PM
I don't say I'll love it, I mention that I think it's going to be awesome for me. I just finished writing (http://miscrave.com/articles/rise-of-the-tmnt/) about this a few seconds ago. The gist of it is, based on the paragraph bio we got from the show I think it's going to be something I'll like. I expect it to be a fun show that doesn't take itself too seriously and it'll have some action. I'm expecting it to be similar to the shorts we got at SDCC last year in that they had action and were more focused on comedy but still told a story, of course this will be more polished and won't necessarily use any of those art styles.

Sure the CG show had comedy but so did every other TMNT cartoon before it, this new show will have a bit more. I never loved the CG show since I just wasn't a fan of some of the decisions they made with characters and it just never clicked with me. I still like it but it wasn't the show I wanted. Rise of the TMNT is also not the show I want but I think it'll be cute and more fun than the CG show. This is of course all speculation on the little info we have since we don't know anything about the show and I don't think we'll get much information until next year, I could be very wrong.

Coola Yagami
04-12-2017, 11:37 PM
Noone said it was going to be like Teen Titans Go..... That's all just a stupid assumption at this point.

DisKosh
04-12-2017, 11:49 PM
I don't like the sound of the new series because I prefer the more dramatic/depressing side of TMNT, but I'll give it a shot, I may be surprised. :)

Although what I'd really love to see is a show based on volume 4 of the comics.

Fishface
04-13-2017, 12:00 AM
How about Option C We are getting a new show in 2018 called Rise of the TMNT

That was Option B.

Andrew NDB
04-13-2017, 12:13 AM
None of these children's shows are really for me or my demographic. I don't really care what they do. It'd be neat if they stopped making copies of facsimiles with all the spinoff characters (Bebop, Rocksteady, Mechaturtle, Technodrome, etc.) and truly do something new with the TMNT, but it's really whatever in this medium. I get it.

IndigoErth
04-13-2017, 12:43 AM
I wouldn't mind the current series continuing. But since it isn't...

C... a new show that goes in the opposite direction from what we've already heard about.

DisKosh
04-13-2017, 12:50 AM
None of these children's shows are really for me or my demographic. I don't really care what they do. It'd be neat if they stopped making copies of facsimiles with all the spinoff characters (Bebop, Rocksteady, Mechaturtle, Technodrome, etc.) and truly do something new with the TMNT, but it's really whatever in this medium. I get it.

Yes! TMNT has so much potential yet every version repeats the same elements although I have to give IDW some credit because, even though it uses traditional elements of the franchise, they have produced original material too.

I think you could find at least one TMNT comic/episode/movie for every single genre (there's a game for those wild Friday nights). :trazz:

CyberCubed
04-13-2017, 01:01 AM
Yes! TMNT has so much potential yet every version repeats the same elements although I have to give IDW some credit because, even though it uses traditional elements of the franchise, they have produced original material too.

I think you could find at least one TMNT comic/episode/movie for every single genre (there's a game for those wild Friday nights). :trazz:

Most of IDW TMNT is about the same plot lines and characters from past series, just with some new twists. Old Hob and the Pantheon are really the only completely new aspects, besides the reincarnation angle.

DisKosh
04-13-2017, 01:14 AM
Most of IDW TMNT is about the same plot lines and characters from past series, just with some new twists. Old Hob and the Pantheon are really the only completely new aspects, besides the reincarnation angle.

I think this is the best version of Casey Jones too and his relationship with Hun is interesting. I think some ideas have been reused so well that they feel fresh.

neatoman
04-13-2017, 06:06 AM
Season 6?

... Nah, the show got kind of stale in season 2, the 5 seasons it got was honestly a little too much.

Vicky82
04-13-2017, 10:33 AM
As I love this show and I would love it to go on forever but things have to end and luckily TMNT will end on a high note and not get cancelled on a cliffhanger.

It's cool that Nick are having a new show but it probably won't be for me as it will be more light toned and for younger kids, but hey I probably end up liking it.

At least I still got the IDW comics.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
04-13-2017, 10:38 AM
Nick TMNT doesn't really interest me, although I like some of the character concepts and story ideas (Dogpound, Fishface, Tiger Claw, Miwa being Yoshi's daughter abducted/adopted by Saki). But the bad far outweighed the good.

A "Teen Titans Go" version of the TMNT holds even less appeal for me.

Vegita-San
04-13-2017, 11:02 AM
Nick TMNT is all over the place and doesn't pay off on what it sets up.

or is absolutely downright horrible (platinum dunes)
I have a feeling it's not going to get much better than what we have now. and if that's the case, i'd have no problem if it eventually died out. better to live with good memories...

Storm Eagle
04-13-2017, 11:07 AM
We know this fifth season will be the last for this current series. So just bring on the next series afterwards and that's that.

DisKosh
04-13-2017, 11:40 AM
Nick TMNT is all over the place and doesn't pay off on what it sets up.

or is absolutely downright horrible (platinum dunes)
I have a feeling it's not going to get much better than what we have now. and if that's the case, i'd have no problem if it eventually died out. better to live with good memories...

It depends who's on the production team.

As a Babylon 5 fan I am biased, but I would love to see Joe Straczynski's take on it.

Vegita-San
04-13-2017, 11:41 AM
It depends who's on the production team.

As a Babylon 5 fan I am biased, but I would love to see Joe Straczynski's take on it.

never saw b5, but I DID see his RGB work. i might agree with this sentiment.
someone with some experience who knows what he's doing.

CyberCubed
04-13-2017, 11:51 AM
I have a feeling it's not going to get much better than what we have now. and if that's the case, i'd have no problem if it eventually died out. better to live with good memories...

Or if that's the case you can literally move on from TMNT instead of constantly whining about it and let the rest of us enjoy new material.

Leofan26
04-15-2017, 12:16 AM
I'd rather option A or take another long break for the series. This new series sounds horrible in my opinion, I hate Teen Titans Go to no end.

DisKosh
04-15-2017, 12:53 AM
never saw b5, but I DID see his RGB work. i might agree with this sentiment.
someone with some experience who knows what he's doing.

I feel he could balance the action with relatable drama while having several strong story/character arcs.

Plus seeing his take on Utroms would be pretty awesome. :tgrin:

Vegita-San
04-16-2017, 09:41 PM
I feel he could balance the action with relatable drama while having several strong story/character arcs.

Plus seeing his take on Utroms would be pretty awesome. :tgrin:

as i recall, he also does a little humor too...

tmnt needs the right mixture of reality and goofiness to work, i think.

this new show is so poorly run that nothing they do past the first season at least really stuck or resonated with people. you can't kill off splinter three times and expect people to care by the 4th when it really happens. ugh.

I would love him to re invent baxter stockman too. this show had the weakest version of stockman ever invented. and the Utroms are a mess as characters.

Krang Prime (now forgotten ) Krang SubPrime (only because they seem to like gilbert) Krang FW apparently being a retcon into this series...ugh.

gives me a headache. i really will be glad when this mess is over.

Utrommaniac
04-16-2017, 09:45 PM
Not to mention the Utrom Council. I think if they had been introduced much earlier and had more time to discuss Sub-Prime's backstory, then things would be better, but I don't think anything is going to happen with them at all.

But yeah, hopefully they'll remember Utroms are a (highly important) thing, but I don't have high hopes.

CyberCubed
04-16-2017, 10:20 PM
Krang Prime (now forgotten ) Krang SubPrime (only because they seem to like gilbert) Krang FW apparently being a retcon into this series...ugh.

gives me a headache. i really will be glad when this mess is over.

Do you ever make one post in the Nick section that isn't your constant complaining/trolling about the show?

Vicky82
04-17-2017, 01:55 AM
Krang Prime (now forgotten ) Krang SubPrime (only because they seem to like gilbert) Krang FW apparently being a retcon into this series...ugh.

gives me a headache. i really will be glad when this mess is over.

You know Kraang Prime is dead, right. Did you even watch Annihilation: Earth!

Kraang Sub Prime died in Annihilation: Earth! as well but we might see him again because of the Time travel/trans dimensional stuff.

FredWolfLeonardo
04-17-2017, 02:00 AM
I'd personally much rather have the Nick show continue on with season 6 as I think there's still alot of untapped potential but if they want to reboot, Im all good with it.

FredWolfLeonardo
04-17-2017, 02:16 AM
It really depends though on how the Nick handles the remaining 16 episodes of season 5. If they have good closure, I'm all for having the new reboot.

I wouldn't want the Nick show to go on for too long without Splinter, and it seems appropriate for the show to only go on for 15 episodes after some of the main characters (Splinter and Shredder) are no longer there but...

If the remaining 16 episodes don't wrap up all the remaining plot points which felt inconclusive (e.g. Aprils mom, Kraang Prime, Mutagen Man, Tiger Claw) then I would be dissapointed.

Atleast in FW the inconclusive stories weren't that important and still ended in some sort of closure while 4Kids made sure not leave any stone unturned and explain everything. I am happy with the Nick show going in either direction but not when it tries to do both (make alot important plot points like 4Kids and then not finish it like FW). You can't keep your cake and eat it at the same time.

Vegita-San
04-17-2017, 06:59 AM
bingo.


if you try to be big and dramatic and adult and explaining...stay that way.

if you try to be all fred wolf with loose ends, stay that way.


it gets FRUSTRATING when you try and do it both, cause if you like the big dramatic way, and it never gets resolved, that's just bad writing.

Vegita-San
04-17-2017, 07:41 AM
i was going to start a thread for this, but figured it woudl be better to ask here.

how many people really don't care for this show?

I tried re watching it again a few months back. season one really held my interest. somewhere around season 2 it got less interesting or less fun, or something and i havn't gone back to it since.

even the better episodes i only need to rewatch once or twice, cause they are usually rehashes seen before. like the renet episodes.

and i don't really think it's because i'm getting older either. I can still enjoy the idw comic rather well.
it just seems like it's a rather half assed effort.

Vicky82
04-17-2017, 07:47 AM
I re watch it a lot but sometimes I get bored watching season 1. Even when this show has ended I will still keep watching it. I do re watch 2k3 and OT shows as well.

ToTheNines
04-17-2017, 08:49 AM
Each episode looks great, has awesome action, great voice acting. Season 2 is where the Kraang started over staying their welcome, season 3 they started really dragging their feet with Karai's arc, and season 4 had too many pump fakes on Splinter's death.

But it still holds a high rewatch value with me. Plus my girlfriend likes it a lot, and doesn't care much for the FW or 4kids shows, so I tend to watch Nick the most anyways.

The only two episodes I habitually skip are Pizzaface and a Meet Mondo Gecko. Those aren't even canon to me. Then I tend to fall asleep for some of the space episodes. Riddle of the Aeons and Revenge of the Triceratons are the only turds. And Wyrm was pointless because everyone got their memories erased at the end.

That's certainly a better batting average than the previous 2 shows.

DestronMirage22
04-17-2017, 08:54 AM
Krang Prime (now forgotten ) Krang SubPrime (only because they seem to like gilbert) Krang FW apparently being a retcon into this series...ugh.

gives me a headache. i really will be glad when this mess is over.

Do you ever make one post in the Nick section that isn't your constant complaining/trolling about the show?

He's got a point though. They thought they were more than they were and decided to try to retcon things that barely made sense in the first place, and force them into their canon. The results are just bad and cheap-feeling. Not to mention how the discrepancies make it impossible for things to work the way they want. Hence why I consider this show non-canon.

Vegita-San
04-17-2017, 09:09 AM
Each episode looks great, has awesome action, great voice acting. Season 2 is where the Kraang started over staying their welcome, season 3 they started really dragging their feet with Karai's arc, and season 4 had too many pump fakes on Splinter's death.
.

if i where to rewatch the series, i'd skip alot.

the shellacne episode was just gross. same goes for the bigfoot episode (also weird) and a few others.

But yeah. this show is such a miss, but it also has great hits as well. the animation is spectacular. the sound effects, music, voices, all great. it's just the direction that needs work, as well asthe scripts and season planning that make it a chore to get through.

CyberCubed
04-17-2017, 11:37 AM
He's got a point though. They thought they were more than they were and decided to try to retcon things that barely made sense in the first place, and force them into their canon. The results are just bad and cheap-feeling. Not to mention how the discrepancies make it impossible for things to work the way they want. Hence why I consider this show non-canon.

You consider a show non-canon? What? :lol:

If you don't like Fred Wolf Krang's new origin just ignore it, it's not a big deal.