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PApagreg
04-12-2017, 10:02 PM
So what are your thoughts on Tiger Claw; did you think he was a great addition to the TMNT universe, did you think the writers tried a little too hard to make him a breakout character , or are your feeling to the character more gray than the examples I listed?

TigerClaw
04-12-2017, 10:07 PM
I think TigerClaw turned out great on the show, I would like to see TigerClaw appear in the IDW comics, or in the new 2018 series that's coming out.

Darth Knuckles
04-12-2017, 10:17 PM
I thought he was a great addition to the TMNT universe. I always enjoyed when he was a major player in an episode or even if he was just in the episode at all. He was portrayed as a competent fighter who you didn't want to mess with in key episodes. He is one of the greats in terms of The Shredder's second in command along with Karai and Tatsu in my opinion. I also hope he becomes a normal character in new iterations of TMNT to come.

ssjup81
04-13-2017, 04:02 AM
Really fun character, missed opportunity, though, with having him leave the Foot after realizing Shredder was "cray-cray". lol

Powder
04-13-2017, 04:19 AM
I like him, he's had some really cool episode features & Eric Bauza is an absolutely amazing performer, but I don't think I'd want to see the character in another universe. Well, maybe, without the tech or western attire. :tlol:

ToTheNines
04-13-2017, 05:18 AM
I like him, he's had some really cool episode features & Eric Bauza is an absolutely amazing performer, but I don't think I'd want to see the character in another universe. Well, maybe, without the tech or western attire. :tlol:

I feel basically the same way. Auman created him while playing a tabletop game as a teenager lol, so that explains the goofy clothes and accessories. Really could have done without the jetpack, too.

He was a really intriguing character at first, and very formidable. Almost as powerful as Splinter. But they nerfed him as the show went on and didn't really give him anything to do.

neatoman
04-13-2017, 06:01 AM
Well let's recap what he actually does:


He pops up to replace Karai but gets eaten and goes away for a few episodes
Reappears in an episode named after him but is really dedicated to Karai
Questions the Shredder's leadership at times but never does anything about it
Fights a bunch of times
Absent during the farmhouse arc
Absent during the space arc
Runs a few errands while Shredder is hospitalised
Gets his arm chopped off by Alopex
Summons Hothead and helps revive Shredder
Helps defeat Hothead


... Did he... Actually do anything of substance before Alopex popped up? I don't think many of the other henchmen did either but at least I tell you what their personalities are. Tiger Claw doesn't even any recognisable quirks. Even Hun, with only one episode focusing on him, had more personality.

So no, I'm not going to miss Tiger Claw. I doubt I'll even remember him when it's been a few years since I last watched the show, unless of course he'll appear in future material but I sort of doubt it.

ToTheNines
04-13-2017, 06:21 AM
... Did he... Actually do anything of substance before Alopex popped up? I don't think many of the other henchmen did either but at least I tell you what their personalities are. Tiger Claw doesn't even any recognisable quirks. Even Hun, with only one episode focusing on him, had more personality.

Yeah, I totally forgot that he disappeared immediately after Wormquake and spent the rest of season 2 fighting his way back to the Nick universe. So yeah... you couldn't even call him a "series regular" until almost half way through season 3. But then he's gone in over half of season 4, and only present for the opening arc of season 5.

His only personalty trait is "warrior". He didn't even show a trace of guilt or affection upon seeing his estranged sister after who knows how many years.

DestronMirage22
04-13-2017, 09:36 AM
He seems alright. Do find it odd he likes to report so much news in so many threads, though. :P

Utrommaniac
04-13-2017, 09:43 AM
To me, Tiger Claw is something of an Diet Old Hob.
An angry one-eyed feline mutant with a score to settle.

But, as pointed out earlier, Tiger Claw wasn't very well, and just wasn't quite as compelling as Hob.

Splinter the boss
04-13-2017, 10:26 AM
He was terrific, he possessed extraordinary skill and caused the turtles trouble numerous times. I found his accessories really cool, the jetpack, the ice guns. It's only natural for me to wish for his appearance in future shows.

ToTheNines
04-13-2017, 10:32 AM
It's also worth mentioning that he had aim worse than an Imperial Stormtrooper. Did he ever actually hit his target once?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
04-13-2017, 10:36 AM
It's also worth mentioning that he had aim worse than an Imperial Stormtrooper. Did he ever actually hit his target once?

The cat has no depth perception, what'd you expect?

Vicky82
04-13-2017, 10:40 AM
I like Tiger Claw, my favourite episode with him in it is, Wrath of Tiger Claw, I loved the final fight scene.

CyberCubed
04-13-2017, 11:57 AM
I liked him, and we never really had a major Tiger mutant in TMNT before. He did generally function as this series version of Tatsu or 4kids Hun though, just being Shredder's second in command.

snake
04-13-2017, 02:06 PM
I liked his design and the concept of TC more than the execution. I'm all for him appearing in other incarnations as a Boba-Fett type figure. I'd change his fur to white though, because it looks better that way.

IndigoErth
04-13-2017, 02:08 PM
He's a pretty good new character for Nick to offer to the franchise. Maybe a little over the top (could have done without the jet pack at least?), but the way cartoons are often done these days may have something to do with that.

Just a shame we didn't get more backstory. If he turns up again someday, I hope there may be a little more depth added and he's more than just Shredder's right hand hitman. Esp the whole brother of Alopex thing, though given her traditional origin and home, eh... Maybe a non-sibling link next time. (Though I wish Nick had explored it more in this series.)

JH24
04-14-2017, 02:30 PM
Very interesting character. Great design and really has a presence whenever he's on screen. At the same time his character feels underdeveloped, it just feels they've could have done so much more with him.

He's not always portrayed consistently either. In some episodes he's a genuine threat, in others he's just being there or more like a comic relief. Like April kicking him in the...

It could have been interesting to see Tigerclaw having some sort of personal vendetta against one of the turtles, like against Leo. (We already had Mikey/Rahzar, Raph/Fishface and Donatello/Baxter)

In some episodes he shows some hints of honor, in others he's more like someone who stabs you in the back. In the end, I just wish they would have done more with his character, like working together with the turtles once in awhile. I never really understood why Tigerclaw is that obsessed with and loyal to the Shredder.

I mean, if it took a demonic dragon to make him realize the error of his ways, then Tigerclaw really must have been blind.

Leofan26
04-15-2017, 12:18 AM
He started off boss, than um it's like the Nick writers couldn't figure out what to do with him :ohwell:

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
04-15-2017, 05:23 AM
One of the coolest antagonists since Armaggon and Verminator X from Archie.

Tetsu Deinonychus
04-15-2017, 09:21 AM
I liked him, and we never really had a major Tiger mutant in TMNT before. He did generally function as this series version of Tatsu or 4kids Hun though, just being Shredder's second in command.
There was Katmandu, who I like better.

GoldMutant
04-15-2017, 09:38 AM
Out of all the new characters the Nickelodeon series has introduced, Tiger Claw is probably my second or third favorite. (Xever being my favorite and Steranko also close) Eric Bauza is a solid voice actor to work with the role, nailing the gruff and stern one would expect out of a bounty hunter. He's had badass showings (specifically his first two appearances) and when used in the spotlight properly, he's a highlight for the series.

However, just because he's one of my personal favorites doesn't make him immune to cons. It took way too long to get the origin of his character for one, coming in at the tailgate of season 4; even then, the Alopex rivalry feels offputting. The Tale of Tiger Claw was rather rushed and with the subplot of Casey Jones' cursing, it made what could've been an excellent feud into something rather unclear. Add into the fact his character seemed to shift dynamics quite a bit.

A few individuals, myself included, have pointed out Tiger Claw questioning Shredder's authority. It was one of the best things brewing into the third season; had the trigger been pulled, there could've been three Foot Clan factions possibly for season 4: Shredder, Baxter Stockman and Bradford on one (possibly Xever), Tiger Claw, Bebop and Rocksteady on another, and finally Karai and the then introduced Shinigami. Despite the opportunity to make Tiger Claw his own villain, it seemed more dedicated to making him Shredder's lackey even after the latter's demise in Owari. At least with Hun in 2k3 he made the Purple Dragons an organized criminal gang following Ch'rell's then presumed death. With Tiger Claw, his loyalty feels a little out of control at points; by the time he made the sudden (offscreen) truce in End Times, it all felt off.

Tiger Claw, along with Bradford and Xever, would've benefited if they each had at least an extra episode or two to flesh them all out earlier on in the series. Now that the aforementioned End Times essentially established the Foot making peace with the Turtles (unless a future episode says otherwise), it bothers me Tiger Claw became an afterthought.

Far from a bad character, but Tiger Claw I'd rather prefer to stay in Nick or be a one off in the future. There are several bounty hunter type characters in TMNT itching for usage, such as Scale Tail. Either way, Tiger Claw was solid for what he was for the most part.

CyberCubed
04-15-2017, 11:56 AM
There was Katmandu, who I like better.

Katmandu really had no personality outside of being a buddhist, and in his second appearance he was brainwashed by Animus so he wasn't even a character in that one. The only really cool thing about him is he had 4 arms and waved swords around, that was about it.

sdp
04-15-2017, 12:30 PM
I haven't really watched the later Tiger Claw episodes but those first appearances were awesome, he's one of the best original characters the CG show created and I would want him to come back in future adaptations.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
04-15-2017, 01:12 PM
Also, Katmandu was an ally of the turtles, Tigerclaw is an antagonist.

FredWolfLeonardo
04-15-2017, 09:31 PM
Great character in my opinion but I think his send off in "end times" felt abrupt. I preferred his ending in Owari, even if it left things open.

I think the greatest missed opportunity was making Tiger Claw the main antagonist of the tmnt after Shredders death, instead he makes his last appearance 4 episodes into the fifth season, not getting the closure he deserves.

In a way, Tiger Claw couldve been the next Shredder of the tmnt, being the main antagonist of future versions all throughout their story or being Shredders brother who is one of the two main antagonists.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
04-16-2017, 05:22 AM
Great character in my opinion but I think his send off in "end times" felt abrupt. I preferred his ending in Owari, even if it left things open.

I think the greatest missed opportunity was making Tiger Claw the main antagonist of the tmnt after Shredders death, instead he makes his last appearance 4 episodes into the fifth season, not getting the closure he deserves.

In a way, Tiger Claw couldve been the next Shredder of the tmnt, being the main antagonist of future versions all throughout their story or being Shredders brother who is one of the two main antagonists.

I agree, Tigerclaw leading the Footclan is so much cooler than Karai. If Karai leads, it always the same. The turtles begin to argue if they shall fight or not, and the conflict slows down much earlier. With Tigerclaw, they have to run and fight for their lives until it's over.

CyberCubed
04-16-2017, 02:52 PM
I agree, Tigerclaw leading the Footclan is so much cooler than Karai. If Karai leads, it always the same. The turtles begin to argue if they shall fight or not, and the conflict slows down much earlier. With Tigerclaw, they have to run and fight for their lives until it's over.

Karai's not their enemy in this show anymore. Karai isn't going to go after the Turtles with the Foot Clan, so I don't see the point you're making

Tetsu Deinonychus
04-16-2017, 03:17 PM
Katmandu really had no personality outside of being a buddhist, and in his second appearance he was brainwashed by Animus so he wasn't even a character in that one. The only really cool thing about him is he had 4 arms and waved swords around, that was about it.

Tiger Claw really has no personality outside of being a tough guy/warrior archetype and the only cool thing about him is his ray-gun.

Also, Buddhists need more representation in western media.

CyberCubed
04-16-2017, 04:09 PM
Tiger Claw really has no personality outside of being a tough guy/warrior archetype and the only cool thing about him is his ray-gun.

Tiger Claw's loyalty to Shredder, his arrogance and sense of honor and duty, and his ability to see reason all make him more than the blank slate Katmundo was.

I just re-read the entire Archie series about two weeks ago. Katmundo is in 4 issues total or so, he's just a nice buddhist in his first 2-parter and then he's just brainwashed into a mindless fighter in his second.

MCLeo28
04-16-2017, 06:14 PM
I agree, Tigerclaw leading the Footclan is so much cooler than Karai. If Karai leads, it always the same. The turtles begin to argue if they shall fight or not, and the conflict slows down much earlier. With Tigerclaw, they have to run and fight for their lives until it's over.

It is better in the sense that it would further exacerbate the rivalry Tiger Claw has with Karai and contribute to Karai's desire to be Leader of the Foot someday which should include some sort of action needed to reach that objective. Competing with Tiger Claw would create significantly more development in that regard.

I don't think Karai being the Foot Leader would be precursory for that relationship. Karai is always going to quarrel with each-other regardless of whether or not Tiger Claw leads the Foot. If anything, Karai orchestrating an ambush against Tiger Claw is something that would realistically happen, so this is inevitable.

Tetsu Deinonychus
04-19-2017, 11:27 AM
Tiger Claw's loyalty to Shredder, his arrogance and sense of honor and duty, and his ability to see reason all make him more than the blank slate Katmundo was.

I just re-read the entire Archie series about two weeks ago. Katmundo is in 4 issues total or so, he's just a nice buddhist in his first 2-parter and then he's just brainwashed into a mindless fighter in his second.

None of which amounted to much. They seemed to be going somewhere with him questioning Shredder's decisions, but they never did anything with that.

A peaceful religious pilgrim stands out a lot more that one more tough guy warrior in a franchise full to the brim with tough guy warriors.

Anyway, they both need fleshing out, but if one of them returns in a future version to be developed, I'd rather it be Katmandu than Tiger Claw.

CyberCubed
04-19-2017, 11:35 AM
Katmandu seems better fitting for IDW to be honest. They could have made him part of the Pantheon.

Tetsu Deinonychus
04-19-2017, 12:08 PM
I could see that.