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Mexiun
05-02-2017, 05:19 AM
I've been wondering about how people feel about the Shredder using guns (laser, psyonic, teleportation guns etc.)

Me personally i like him better without the use of guns, using guns doesn't seem very ninja-like to me, although on the other hand it does show that he does everything to win and 'cheats' inorder to get victory, that does show that he indeed has no honour at all like what Splinter keeps saying.

What do you think?

Candy Kappa
05-02-2017, 06:00 AM
using guns doesn't seem very ninja-like to me

That's odd, since Ninja did use guns, a ninjutsu technique was to make a musket able to fire a second shot before you had to reload. So the Shinobi was not unfamiliar with firearms.

landmines and grenades are also ninja weapons.

That said, gun fights are usually boring compared to a well done fisticuffs or budo fight scene.

snake
05-02-2017, 06:07 AM
Like CK said, they're not as visually appealing. I wouldn't mind an awesome gun fight, but just not with Shredder. (A version of the fights in bodycount would be great for Nick's anthology format this season)

Technogeek29
05-02-2017, 06:49 AM
It really depends the Fire Arms aren't new to the Foot (Before 2014) I don't see Shredder himself using them but it wouldn't surprise me if he took advantage of various heavy arms for his troops to use.

mrmaczaps
05-02-2017, 08:15 AM
Should have been a third option: don't care either way. The turtles have used guns before... I wouldn't want them to toss their traditional weapons and go all guns but I don't see any issue with either the Foot or the Turtles using them. They might be Turtles but they're American born and technically would have the same Second Amendment rights as you or I (for y'all Americans)... lol

Mexiun
05-02-2017, 09:27 AM
Should have been a third option: don't care either way. The turtles have used guns before... I wouldn't want them to toss their traditional weapons and go all guns but I don't see any issue with either the Foot or the Turtles using them. They might be Turtles but they're American born and technically would have the same Second Amendment rights as you or I (for y'all Americans)... lol


You're right i knew i was missing an option :oops: :roll:

Yeah guns to me are usually a 'no' with anything, to me it's very boring... and i'm not used to seeing ninja's (or the turtles in general) using them.

FredWolfLeonardo
05-02-2017, 10:03 AM
I liked the few moments in the OT where Shredder got a retro mutagen gun and threatened to de mutate the turtles, or in Muckman messes up when he gets a real pistol.

But I prefer him sticking to Ninjitsu while Bebop/Rocksteady stick to guns.

FredWolfLeonardo
05-02-2017, 10:09 AM
I would be interesting in seeing a tmnt version where Shredder is physically weak and has a cowardly/despicable personality but still easily defeats the turtles because he is always using guns and modern technology. The turtles in that version are far stronger than him, but helpless when they are up against him with his barrel staring them down the face, same with their relation to the rest of humanity.

Andrew NDB
05-02-2017, 10:53 AM
I wouldn't really have a problem, in a protracted battle. As a general thing, why not?

Splinter the boss
05-02-2017, 02:20 PM
It doesn't look as cool as using traditional ninja weapons, but I don't care as long as it's moderate.

Weapons@theready
05-02-2017, 04:32 PM
I guess for me the answer is it depends on where we are at in the "series" I would like early versions of Shredder to be bold and brash and thinks he only needs to lean on his physical prowess as a ninja to defeat the Turtles.As the series goes on we see the Shredder turn more to weapons and technology because he is hell bent on beating the Turtles. The same goes for his henchmen, where he starts with traditional human ninjas and eventually he progresses to robotic henchman and mutants.

Cryomancer
05-02-2017, 09:19 PM
He's more of a grenades kinda guy

Ninjinister
05-02-2017, 11:06 PM
He's more of a grenades kinda guy

And look how well that worked out for him.

myconius
05-03-2017, 08:05 AM
i could see Shredder giving orders to Foot soldiers to fire guns,

but can't really see him using them himself.


why fire a gun when you have lackeys do do it for you.


He's more of a grenades kinda guy

And look how well that worked out for him.

PERFECT!!!!! :lol:

Mexiun
05-03-2017, 12:50 PM
And look how well that worked out for him.

I don't get it, can someone fill me in? :P

Candy Kappa
05-03-2017, 12:59 PM
I don't get it, can someone fill me in? :P

After Shredder was defeated in issue 1, he declined committing sepppukku and tried to detonate a grenade taking out himself and the Turtles. But Donnie knocked him still holding the grenade off the roof they where on.

And the, BOOM!

Mexiun
05-03-2017, 01:09 PM
After Shredder was defeated in issue 1, he declined committing sepppukku and tried to detonate a grenade taking out himself and the Turtles. But Donnie knocked him still holding the grenade off the roof they where on.

And the, BOOM!

Oohh yeah you're right forgot about that.
Thanks.

Andrew NDB
05-03-2017, 01:17 PM
Yeah, people forget that it was technically Donatello that killed Shredder the first time around. Basically.

myconius
05-03-2017, 01:38 PM
it was a nice joint effort.

Leo set him up and Donnie knocked him down. :D

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-03-2017, 01:48 PM
He can use both, depending on story, but in epic man against man-fights against Splinter, I prefer traditional Japanese weapons.

Powder
05-03-2017, 02:47 PM
In comics or film? Easy pass. In kids shows where his toy needs an accessory, fine, so long as it's not a primary weapon.

DestronMirage22
05-03-2017, 03:24 PM
Seems to me like using guns in combat in kinda dishonorable.
But seeing as the guy wanted to take everyone out with a grenade after he declined the offer to die honorably, it probably wouldn't be an issue with him.

Ninjinister
05-04-2017, 02:42 AM
Yeah, people forget that it was technically Donatello that killed Shredder the first time around. Basically.

Yeah between that and Baxter he took out the two Mirage villains that people tend to consider "big" ones in the franchise at large.

pferreira
05-04-2017, 11:16 AM
Not a fan of Shredder using guns. I don't mind him using a Retro Mutagen Gun though. I think the best weapon I like Shredder using is a sword.

myconius
05-24-2017, 03:21 PM
i recently re-read City Fall.

the scene where Victor pulls a gun on Shredder and (Dark) Leo,
Shredder slices Victor's hand off saying "Coward's weapon!"

it's pretty safe to assume the IDW version of Shredder wouldn't have used a gun.

slingtheory
05-31-2017, 05:59 PM
i recently re-read City Fall.

the scene where Victor pulls a gun on Shredder and (Dark) Leo,
Shredder slices Victor's hand off saying "Coward's weapon!"

it's pretty safe to assume the IDW version of Shredder wouldn't have used a gun.
I soon as read Shredder and gun that scene popped into my head. I prefer shredder's take on guns that way myself

myconius
05-31-2017, 08:10 PM
I soon as read Shredder and gun that scene popped into my head. I prefer shredder's take on guns that way myself

definitely! the Shredder in IDW is one of my favorites right next to Shredder from Mirage.