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Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-05-2017, 05:50 PM
Where can I find the script for "The Foot Walks Again", the abandoned 1990's film?

Powder
05-05-2017, 05:58 PM
I don't believe it's 'out there', exactly. A guy bought it from an auction & to my knowledge has not made it available.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-05-2017, 07:14 PM
I've never heard of this. Was this a concept before the 1990 film that was produced?

d_osborn
05-05-2017, 08:22 PM
It was one of the later scripts for TMNT 4. TNM was still airing. Karai, Foot Elite, Venus, Kirby, Spyder (alternate dimension Shredder). Not the best of the TMNT 4 scripts, but it had potential.

I don't believe it's 'out there', exactly. A guy bought it from an auction & to my knowledge has not made it available.
It's scanned, archived, preserved, and in safe hands. I was debating on just dumping it out there, but it's much cooler with some additional context. It'll be out there eventually. :)

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-05-2017, 08:42 PM
Ah, when I saw 1990s, I thought 1990. But one of many different takes on a desired fourth film makes more sense...

AquaParade
05-05-2017, 09:13 PM
It was one of the later scripts for TMNT 4. TNM was still airing. Karai, Foot Elite, Venus, Kirby, Spyder (alternate dimension Shredder). Not the best of the TMNT 4 scripts, but it had potential.


It's scanned, archived, preserved, and in safe hands. I was debating on just dumping it out there, but it's much cooler with some additional context. It'll be out there eventually. :)

You're the lucky owner? Congrats.

I'd love to take a peak at it. Glad you're willing to share.

Looking forward to it, hope you'll keep us posted.

pferreira
05-11-2017, 11:24 AM
It's scanned, archived, preserved, and in safe hands. I was debating on just dumping it out there, but it's much cooler with some additional context. It'll be out there eventually. :)It would be interesting to read it one day.

Andrew NDB
05-11-2017, 11:29 AM
Yeah, what the heck is this? Is this the Hallmark thing?

oldmanwinters
05-11-2017, 11:40 AM
d_osborn, if and when you decide to post that (with or without context), I will be greatly indebted to you for your contributions to the fandom!
We had a good time discussing that script and concept art when it was put up for auction years ago!
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=33269&page=4
and here...
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=40446

Yeah, what the heck is this? Is this the Hallmark thing?

Oh, man, I completely forgot about the Hallmark project. It always sounded like the weirdest thing to me, considering the channel's target audience back in the day. I remember seeing a few updates about it on the official website prior to the release of the 4Kids cartoon, and I think Laird even mentioned it in his editorials and letter columns of early Volume 4 issues.

So, in regards to TMNT 4 movie there were multiple ideas and attempts to get it into production until TMNT 2007 finally came out. Here's a few ideas/rumors, I remember:

The 1994 "Next Mutation" movie concept for which Mirage did concept art of revised Turtles and Splinter designs, later uploaded to the old "Blast from the Past" website. I'm guessing this was the same project that was going to feature "Kirby" who basically looked like a live-action Slash?
http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2011/03/4th-live-action-tmnt-movie-that-never.html

The evolved form of this concept that would apparently be an alternate universe adventure featuring corrupted versions of April O'Neil, Casey Jones, Spyder & Nano-Spyder, Super Shredder, and more Kirby ideas (most drawn by Kevin Eastman or Mike Dooney), presumably titled "The Foot Walks Again" which d_osborn owns a script draft for:
http://comicsalliance.com/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtle-fourth-movie-concept-art-kirby-kevin-eastman/

The 2001 project that would supposedly feature Steve Barron teaming up with Brendan McCarthy for more hip and "street" approach to the characters, concept art of which was posted on McCarthy's website.
http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2011/03/4th-live-action-tmnt-movie-that-never.html
http://artbrendan.com/portfolio-items/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/

The rumored "John Woo" R-rated film I heard comic enthusiasts talk about in my college days (circa late 1990s early 00s)
http://thecomicscode.weebly.com/john-woos-tmnt.html

The early 00s Rainbow Studios CGI project that had a demo-trailer made and posted onto the official TMNT website (maybe film, maybe TV series)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_wQ8Xt8GN0

The officially acknowledged (by Peter Laird) "Hallmark" film, conceptualized sometime around 2003.

pferreira
05-11-2017, 12:12 PM
Oh, man, I completely forgot about the Hallmark project. It always sounded like the weirdest thing to me, considering the channel's target audience back in the day. Hallmark? Would the fourth Turtles movie evolved into a TV mini-series since that's what Hallmark are known for?

oldmanwinters
05-11-2017, 12:30 PM
Hallmark? Would the fourth Turtles movie evolved into a TV mini-series since that's what Hallmark are known for?

The Hallmark project apparently did make it to test-costumes!
http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/ask-pl-6.html?showComment=1328938454451#c2136037371629364 025

Concept Art for a creature
http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/shreddant.html
(confirmation of an existing script!)

d_osborn
05-12-2017, 04:28 PM
Yeah, what the heck is this? Is this the Hallmark thing?
TMNT 4 via 1997, post TNM.


Oh, man, I completely forgot about the Hallmark project. It always sounded like the weirdest thing to me, considering the channel's target audience back in the day.

The 2001 project that would supposedly feature Steve Barron teaming up with Brendan McCarthy for more hip and "street" approach to the characters, concept art of which was posted on McCarthy's website.
http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2011/03/4th-live-action-tmnt-movie-that-never.html
http://artbrendan.com/portfolio-items/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/

The Hallmark mini-series was the Barron project! Barron got his start doing Hallmark shows for Henson back in the day. Out of all of the unproduced TMNT movies that were floating around in some form or another, I find this one of the most fascinating. Also, cool little tidbit, Brendan McCarthy was Barron's storyboard artist on the original TMNT. I thought it was cool he had McCarthy work up the initial concept art for the mini-series.

oldmanwinters
05-12-2017, 04:42 PM
TMNT 4 via 1997, post TNM.


The Hallmark mini-series was the Barron project! Barron got his start doing Hallmark shows for Henson back in the day. Out of all of the unproduced TMNT movies that were floating around in some form or another, I find this one of the most fascinating. Also, cool little tidbit, Brendan McCarthy was Barron's storyboard artist on the original TMNT. I thought it was cool he had McCarthy work up the initial concept art for the mini-series.

Thanks for the clarification, d_osborn! You know, I think that Hallmark project could have had a lot of charm if they had gone with Henson-esque animatronics in the early 2000s. But such is the stuff of speculation.

pferreira
05-18-2017, 09:53 AM
The Hallmark project apparently did make it to test-costumes!
http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/ask-pl-6.html?showComment=1328938454451#c2136037371629364 025Blimey! This probably would have been the TV mini-series event of the year even if they didn't bother with a TV series. Shame it didn't get made.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-28-2017, 07:50 AM
I think the film should've been recorded and released at least.

bwwd
08-23-2017, 03:06 AM
This is even worse than bay turtles :lol:
http://artbrendan.com/portfolio-items/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/

AquaParade
08-23-2017, 10:47 AM
This is even worse than bay turtles :lol:
http://artbrendan.com/portfolio-items/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/

I actually happen to LOVE this vision for the turtles. Especially following Baron's original film. I think the designs are fitting for the characters.
As bad as the Platinum Dunes films are, I actually don't mind the character designs they went with as much as most hardcore fans. They've clearly taken inspiration from these concepts, which I dig.

I know that in the past, a few other franchises with abandoned movie projects have eventually been brought over to the comic book medium and finished there. I've never cared, but if Brendan McCarthy, Steve Baron, and Kevin Eastman were to team up on this, I'd absolutely go nuts. Make it happen, IDW!

Andrew NDB
08-23-2017, 11:28 AM
All right, as long as it doesn't have jingle-jangly accessories over the Turtles like in the Bay movies making it impossible for them to be ninjas and move in silence...

*clicks on link*

Yeah, that's dumb.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-23-2017, 11:47 AM
This is even worse than bay turtles :lol:
http://artbrendan.com/portfolio-items/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/

Oh yeah, I remember seeing those before...

Eh.

AquaParade
08-23-2017, 11:55 AM
All right, as long as it doesn't have jingle-jangly accessories over the Turtles like in the Bay movies making it impossible for them to be ninjas and move in silence...

*clicks on link*

Yeah, that's dumb.

I guess my thought process is that it's dumb to be geared up like a ninja 24/7

Let them have some attempts at normalcy, family life, self-expression. Then when it comes time to go above ground and do battle, they dress accordingly.

I mean, if I were truly trying to be stealthy, I wouldn't throw on a red, flowing bandana either.

Andrew NDB
08-23-2017, 12:05 PM
I guess my thought process is that it's dumb to be geared up like a ninja 24/7

Let them have some attempts at normalcy, family life, self-expression. Then when it comes time to go above ground and do battle, they dress accordingly.

I guess that'd be fine. Though I don't imagine four guys raised in a sweaty sewer for all their life to grow up and kill a guy would be terribly worried about concepts of "normalcy," "family life," or "self-expression."

I mean, if I were truly trying to be stealthy, I wouldn't throw on a red, flowing bandana either.

It's probably like Batman wearing a yellow circle on his chest when that was the only part on his costume that was bulletproof... if you're aiming a gun and the Turtles are darting around in the dark your eye might train on the flowing bandannas and not any fleshy parts.

Or maybe they just look cool.

d_osborn
08-23-2017, 01:44 PM
I guess my thought process is that it's dumb to be geared up like a ninja 24/7

Let them have some attempts at normalcy, family life, self-expression. Then when it comes time to go above ground and do battle, they dress accordingly.

I mean, if I were truly trying to be stealthy, I wouldn't throw on a red, flowing bandana either.
I can see that flowing well with Barron's ideas from the first film, which I'm guessing his mini-series would have loosely followed. They weren't solely raised to kill Shredder-- there was obviously trying to maintain a sense of normalcy.

AquaParade
08-24-2017, 11:31 AM
I guess that'd be fine. Though I don't imagine four guys raised in a sweaty sewer for all their life to grow up and kill a guy would be terribly worried about concepts of "normalcy," "family life," or "self-expression."



It's probably like Batman wearing a yellow circle on his chest when that was the only part on his costume that was bulletproof... if you're aiming a gun and the Turtles are darting around in the dark your eye might train on the flowing bandannas and not any fleshy parts.

Or maybe they just look cool.

I actually see that as a really endearing part of the characters but I guess that can vary from person to person. The drive to avenge Yoshi's master is high on my list of essential elements too.
But I think it's important that they feel the isolation down there in the sewers. I would never say that their number one mission is to befriend all of New York, but I like the idea that they try and replicate what they see on television and in the city streets, as a way of belonging, or just to give them some visual personality.

Neither Batman's yellow symbol or the red bandana's being a distraction for enemies really hold much water for me. That said, I can suspend my imagination enough, given that they look fantastic.
My only hangup is when we see the turtles constantly hanging around the lair in knee-pads and masks, with weapons holstered. Image, and sometimes Mirage, handled this pretty well for my taste though.

pferreira
08-24-2017, 11:31 AM
This is even worse than bay turtles :lol:
http://artbrendan.com/portfolio-items/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/Having looked at the link I'm sure there's been worse.