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Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-17-2017, 06:45 AM
Why did the 1989 NES game have the Mirage turtles with all-red coloured bandanas? It's not like most children back in 1989 had any idea of it, so to most of them it was just a "mistake with four Raphaels".

mrmaczaps
05-17-2017, 06:59 AM
Why did the 1989 NES game have the Mirage turtles with all-red coloured bandanas? It's not like most children back in 1989 had any idea of it, so to most of them it was just a "mistake with four Raphaels".

Children aren't as oblivious as adults seem to think they are. They see all and know all, even if they don't yet understand.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-17-2017, 07:01 AM
Children aren't as oblivious as adults seem to think they are. They see all and know all, even if they don't yet understand.

I had no idea of Mirage comics. It was before the Internet had gone mainstream.

Ninjinister
05-17-2017, 07:08 AM
I deduced it myself. "Oh! That must be what they all looked like originally."

oldmanwinters
05-17-2017, 10:02 AM
I deduced it myself. "Oh! That must be what they all looked like originally."

It all made sense once I got a copy of The Official TMNT Treasury (https://www.amazon.com/Official-Teenage-Mutant-Turtles-Treasury/dp/0679734848) and saw the Mirage cover gallery. Plus, Raphael was my favorite turtle action figure primarily because of how well his red mask color scheme worked, so having them all red was perfectly fine with me!

I am glad Konami/Ultra resisted the urge to edit over Dooney's artwork.

DestronMirage22
05-17-2017, 10:26 AM
They realized the epicness of that Dooney art. There's a reason why it's been used so much. :)

pferreira
05-18-2017, 09:40 AM
Why did the 1989 NES game have the Mirage turtles with all-red coloured bandanas? It's not like most children back in 1989 had any idea of it, so to most of them it was just a "mistake with four Raphaels".Only the cover as far as I'm aware. In game they should all have different bandana colours.

They realized the epicness of that Dooney art. There's a reason why it's been used so much. :)It's such a terrific piece of art isn't it? :)

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-18-2017, 09:45 AM
It all made sense once I got a copy of The Official TMNT Treasury (https://www.amazon.com/Official-Teenage-Mutant-Turtles-Treasury/dp/0679734848) and saw the Mirage cover gallery. Plus, Raphael was my favorite turtle action figure primarily because of how well his red mask color scheme worked, so having them all red was perfectly fine with me!

I am glad Konami/Ultra resisted the urge to edit over Dooney's artwork.

I am pretty surprised they didn't recolor the masks. Seems like it would have been easy to do, and hard to avoid because marketing decisions.

I wonder what that would've looked like?

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
05-18-2017, 12:47 PM
Only the cover as far as I'm aware. In game they should all have different bandana colours.



Yes, it's only the cover.

Logan
07-30-2017, 04:59 PM
As a kid, I just assumed it was an image montage of Raphael training with all the weapons. Didn't give it much thought.

If I remember right, there is a palette glitch in the Shredder fight where your turtle's mask turns red regardless of who you are playing as.

Cryomancer
07-30-2017, 07:36 PM
I am pretty surprised they didn't recolor the masks. Seems like it would have been easy to do, and hard to avoid because marketing decisions.

I wonder what that would've looked like?

Welp, it felt dirty to mess with a classic, but here's a quick and dirty edit

http://i.imgur.com/Rd7M246.jpg


For the record, this (the original) piece rules a lot. But is also actually somewhat misleading, haha.

edit: well, a little misleading anyway. It's fairly accurate to the issue but thinking of what comes of it later makes it feel a little weird.

DestronMirage22
07-30-2017, 07:53 PM
Welp, it felt dirty to mess with a classic, but here's a quick and dirty edit

http://i.imgur.com/Rd7M246.jpg


For the record, this piece rules a lot. But is also actually somewhat misleading, haha.

Doesn't look quite as good like that.

mrmaczaps
07-30-2017, 08:17 PM
Welp, it felt dirty to mess with a classic, but here's a quick and dirty edit

http://i.imgur.com/Rd7M246.jpg


For the record, this piece rules a lot. But is also actually somewhat misleading, haha.

Nah man. You ruined it. Not the same vibe at all.

Powder
07-30-2017, 08:31 PM
He did a favor to satisfy a member's curiosity. Ease up. His edits are clean.

& if it makes anyone feel better, I'm pretty sure a 'rainbow revision' just like that existed in poster form in the late 80's.

Cryomancer
07-30-2017, 09:48 PM
I was saying the original piece rules. I don't really like the edit either.

oldmanwinters
07-30-2017, 09:51 PM
Yeah, seems inevitably that Leonardo's blue mask blends too much with that blue background. Red masks all round is still the best way to go!

Shark_Blade
07-31-2017, 12:23 AM
Welp, it felt dirty to mess with a classic, but here's a quick and dirty edit

http://i.imgur.com/Rd7M246.jpg


For the record, this piece rules a lot. But is also actually somewhat misleading, haha.

edit: well, a little misleading anyway. It's fairly accurate to the issue but thinking of what comes of it later makes it feel a little weird.
I actually prefer this colored version than the bland all-red-bandanas version tbh. Great work.

pferreira
08-03-2017, 09:51 AM
I don't mind either. It's the art that makes it look great.

Konchadunga
08-06-2017, 02:47 AM
It's interesting to look back on how Mirage-esque a lot of the artwork for merchandise technically based on the Fred Wolf show was; even when they had multicolored bandanas. The game art, as well as the toy designs, featured the turtles putting on the beak-warped grins/glares :tmad:, rather than looking giddy and smiley :trazz:. Well, why not; those areas were where the Turtles were actually doing most of their proper fighting. It's kind of like a look at what might have been, had moral concerns not been as big of a deal during the time the Fred Wolf show itself had been made.

Rooish
08-09-2017, 09:09 PM
It's interesting to look back on how Mirage-esque a lot of the artwork for merchandise technically based on the Fred Wolf show was; even when they had multicolored bandanas. The game art, as well as the toy designs, featured the turtles putting on the beak-warped grins/glares :tmad:, rather than looking giddy and smiley :trazz:. Well, why not; those areas were where the Turtles were actually doing most of their proper fighting. It's kind of like a look at what might have been, had moral concerns not been as big of a deal during the time the Fred Wolf show itself had been made.

Yeah it's weird how the different looks were marketed at the same time. The toys had the "beak-warped grin/glare" too! I remember just taking it in stride as a kid.

Ninjinister
08-09-2017, 10:01 PM
Yeah I never gave any of this a second thought as a lad.

funatic
08-10-2017, 11:25 AM
I'm pretty sure a 'rainbow revision' just like that existed in poster form in the late 80's.

I have that poster but it's the regular red... unless they made two versions?

http://i66.tinypic.com/8yrio2.jpg

I Crave Pizza No More
08-13-2017, 12:21 PM
Pretty sure I had seen the Dark Horse minis and had one of the role playing books, as well as a calendar, and so knew that that's how they looked in the comics (which I hadn't read or paid much attention to).

ABrown
09-21-2017, 01:15 PM
I think the 1989 Nintendo game had more in common with the original comics than it did the original cartoon, and the cover being one of the reasons why. I consider the first game to be the comics game, and TMNT II: The Arcade Game to be the cartoon game.

Andrew NDB
09-21-2017, 01:33 PM
Welp, it felt dirty to mess with a classic, but here's a quick and dirty edit

http://i.imgur.com/Rd7M246.jpg

This should be a war crime.

plastroncafe
09-21-2017, 01:38 PM
https://sep.yimg.com/ay/autographsforsale/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-cast-autographed-2013-comic-con-poster-sean-astin-greg-cipes-rob-paulsen-kevin-michael-richardson-mae-whitman-41.jpg

So like this?
(please hold for new image)

ABrown
09-21-2017, 01:40 PM
https://sep.yimg.com/ay/autographsforsale/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-cast-autographed-2013-comic-con-poster-sean-astin-greg-cipes-rob-paulsen-kevin-michael-richardson-mae-whitman-41.jpg

So like this?

I'm just gonna pretend that I never saw that...

Candy Kappa
09-21-2017, 01:46 PM
I think the Nick recreation of that artwork is wonderful, I like it a lot.

plastroncafe
09-21-2017, 01:50 PM
I'm just gonna pretend that I never saw that...

This isn't the first in the series...


http://yipsterscollection.weebly.com/uploads/1/2/9/2/12921803/7996089_orig.jpghttp://yipsterscollection.weebly.com/uploads/1/2/9/2/12921803/7996089_orig.jpg
https://images.bonanzastatic.com/afu/images/1789/9038/73/DSC_9724_crop.JPG
https://sep.yimg.com/ay/autographsforsale/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-cast-autographed-2015-comic-con-poster-3.jpg
https://sep.yimg.com/ay/autographsforsale/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-cast-autographed-2015-comic-con-poster-3.jpg


I think the Nick recreation of that artwork is wonderful, I like it a lot.

I liked it a lot too. The artists who drew the originals were...surprised when I showed it to them.

Ninjinister
09-22-2017, 12:02 AM
I'm just gonna pretend that I never saw that...

Why...? o.O

ProactiveMan
09-22-2017, 04:45 AM
I don't know if I had read the Mirage stuff when that game came out - I don't think I had because I remember seeing that panel and having a moment of realisation. The thing is though, there was a lot of weird variation in merch at the time, so I wasn't confused by the red masks any more than I was by the different skin tones on the figures.

Cryomancer
09-22-2017, 06:13 AM
This should be a war crime.

Yeah like I said, felt bad doing it. But I enjoy doing terrible mask swaps now and then. I did an all reds and no pupils edit of the Ninja Rap tape at some point.

Candy Kappa
09-22-2017, 07:02 AM
I did an all reds and no pupils edit of the Ninja Rap tape at some point.

omg, pics or it didn't happen :lol: no, seriously do you still have the edits it would be hilarious to see that?

Cryomancer
09-22-2017, 10:46 PM
Alright, have a bunch of real dumb TMNT edits i've done while we're at it then.

Red masks -> color masks https://imgur.com/a/VVcUN
color masks -> red masks https://imgur.com/a/AsG7J
various weird edits to next mutation stuff https://imgur.com/a/tW2M7
2007 TMNT with lightsabers https://imgur.com/a/w57lN
Some wallpapers made from TMNT manga https://imgur.com/a/UdtfV
colorized stuff from TMNT manga https://imgur.com/a/V9iWx

I suppose if someone wants something done lemme know and I'll take a look.

Bonus awful Krang thing: https://imgur.com/ThNxoC0

oldmanwinters
09-23-2017, 09:54 AM
Alright, have a bunch of real dumb TMNT edits i've done while we're at it then.

Red masks -> color masks https://imgur.com/a/VVcUN
color masks -> red masks https://imgur.com/a/AsG7J
various weird edits to next mutation stuff https://imgur.com/a/tW2M7
2007 TMNT with lightsabers https://imgur.com/a/w57lN
Some wallpapers made from TMNT manga https://imgur.com/a/UdtfV
colorized stuff from TMNT manga https://imgur.com/a/V9iWx

I suppose if someone wants something done lemme know and I'll take a look.

Bonus awful Krang thing: https://imgur.com/ThNxoC0

Love the manga color collection!

Konchadunga
09-27-2017, 05:29 PM
I don't know if I had read the Mirage stuff when that game came out - I don't think I had because I remember seeing that panel and having a moment of realisation. The thing is though, there was a lot of weird variation in merch at the time, so I wasn't confused by the red masks any more than I was by the different skin tones on the figures.

I don't think I had an experience of either the Mirage series or the first video game's boxart back then. That being said, I always was bamboozled by how the video games featured the turtles fighting more like actual ninjas against villains that were competent, and the cartoons featured...a sitcom.

BH Daimaouji
10-01-2017, 06:40 AM
Why did the 1989 NES game have the Mirage turtles with all-red coloured bandanas? It's not like most children back in 1989 had any idea of it, so to most of them it was just a "mistake with four Raphaels".

That's only in the PAL/USA versions

If you live in Poland/Russia/China and had and knew the japanese who would be shocked as to why:

-There's no Krang
-Why is April Splinter's dauther
-Why the TMNT theme isn't played

The reason the other is becuase...the show was beggining to air in japan, so Konami mixed the comic (hence why Turtles having no pupils) and cartoon (Splinter being human, Rocksteady, Bebop, Footclan, Technodrome) into one, and a japanese feel to it

Powder
10-01-2017, 02:33 PM
Konami mixed the comic (hence why Turtles having no pupils) and cartoon (Splinter being human, Rocksteady, Bebop, Footclan, Technodrome) into one, and a japanese feel to it

Not accurate at all.

Prowler
10-01-2017, 04:13 PM
I was like 5-6 years old when I first played that game? I had noticed indeed that the Turtles all had red bandanas like Raphael did in the FW cartoon... but I didn't really care. I was, you know, busy playing the game. Well, ore mile trying to play the game since it was hard as hell and I kept dying.

Of all the things wrong with that game, its cover certainly isn't one of them.