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Prowler
06-07-2017, 12:18 AM
The opening:

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It aired around 1992-1994, I think. Pretty cool action sci-fi(with a bit of fantasy aswell) cartoon series, featuring a teenage boy named Max who's the chosen one and goes on adventures with a fowl and a warrior dude.

This show could be surprisingly edgy for a kids cartoon. It didn't have blood but it had deaths and a lot of times it was heavily implied that someone died/was about to die. I also liked how every time Max went through a portal he got the instructions from Virgil in a different way. That was funny. Max would be watching TV and suddenly "Mighty One, go to portal at the barbershop" :lol:

The main character, Might Max, was voiced by Rob Paulsen... he's like a human Fred Wolf Raphael in this show! It's as if the retromutagen had been used on him and he went on to live as a teenage boy. Also, one of Max's allies, Virgil the Fowl, is voiced by the great late Tony Jay, the same VA who voiced Dregg in the FW TMNT series.

The problem with this show was... the ending. It sucked. Wanna know why?

Norman and Virgil die in the last episode but then Max is able to rest the time and sh*t starts all over again... yep. Total disappointment.

Supposedly this show had a pretty successful toyline, which is funny because I don't recall the show being a success. Then again I only watched it later on cable in the early 21st century. Maybe it has a cult following from the 90s?

CyberCubed
06-07-2017, 12:28 AM
I remember watching it as a kid, but don't remember anything about it except the chicken thing saying, "I'm a Veil not a chicken" and Mighty Max having Rob Paulsen's voice.

It was a typical 90's cartoon, while dated, is still better than the trash they call cartoons today.

Prowler
06-07-2017, 12:32 AM
I remember watching it as a kid, but don't remember anything about it except the chicken thing saying, "I'm a Veil not a chicken" and Mighty Max having Rob Paulsen's voice.

It was a typical 90's cartoon, while dated, is still better than the trash they call cartoons today.
I re-watched a few episodes the other day(found at the usual place...) and it holds up well, imo. It's still entertaining to me and I'm a guy in his mid-20s.

I recommend you watching it again one day if you happen to have time for it. :)

CyberCubed
06-07-2017, 01:41 AM
Wow, the show made 40 episodes total, I had no idea it lasted that long:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mighty_Max_(TV_series) )

For some reason I assumed this show was a short-lived 13-26 episode series or something. 40 episodes total is quite a lot for a series like this.

Prowler
06-07-2017, 01:54 AM
Doesn't surprise me much. I had a feeling the number was around 30-40.

I wonder if the show got cancelled instead of actual finishing... that would explain its crappy ending.

drgon78
06-07-2017, 04:39 AM
I thought it was a great show and like many that I have liked didn't last nearly as long as it should have.

sdp
06-07-2017, 07:56 AM
I never got to watch the cartoon as a kid but I was a huge fan of of the toys, I had a massive collection and they were some awesome toys. In fact they pretty much revolutionized the industry since for the rest of the decade everyone had playsets a la Mighty Max even after Mighty Max stopped.

The cartoon had two seasons and an ending which was rare for this type of shows in the 90s. So while not a huge success it was a successful enough cartoon, I watched it as an adult and while nothing mind blowing it's entertaining enough and would've loved it as a kid, you don't really suffer through episodes like of some other shows we used to love. Sadly it never got a DVD release but there is a guy that just recently started a Mighty Max remaster project and the few episodes he's done look better than DVD because what's out there are horrible VHS rips.

I would love a revival, it's such an awesome concept, sadly Mattel has never shown signs of interest, I don't know why, it was a huge success, there's nostalgia for it and there's nothing like it in the market today.

"I'm a Veil not a chicken".

A fowl, actually.

Shark_Blade
06-07-2017, 08:24 AM
I found this yesterday and feel like it's so similar with this Mighty Max on so many levels...

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Prowler
06-07-2017, 08:33 AM
Never had Mighty Max toys myself.

It seems like it was mostly the toyline that was successful while the cartoon was just another cartoon.

plastroncafe
06-07-2017, 08:38 AM
Oh hell yeah!
Tom Curry was the bad guy and Richard Moll was Norman.

Prowler
06-07-2017, 08:38 AM
Oh hell yeah!
Tom Curry was the bad guy and Richard Moll was Norman.

Norman was pretty badass.

snake
06-07-2017, 09:20 AM
I have a couple of the toys. They're great. Sucks that a line like that literally can't be made today.

plastroncafe
06-07-2017, 10:43 AM
Norman was pretty badass.

He was the BEST!
Mighty Max was destination television for me when it was on the air. As far as I know they've never released a DVD version of it.

I was at a con many years ago and in a fit of the utter loss of scruples, I bought a DVD rip off the entire series. (Max and Cadillacs and Dinosaurs).

Prowler
06-07-2017, 10:52 AM
I have a couple of the toys. They're great. Sucks that a line like that literally can't be made today.
Why not?

He was the BEST!
Mighty Max was destination television for me when it was on the air. As far as I know they've never released a DVD version of it.

I was at a con many years ago and in a fit of the utter loss of scruples, I bought a DVD rip off the entire series. (Max and Cadillacs and Dinosaurs).
I watched Mighty Max back in 6th or 7th grade, I think.

I was a bit surprised the writers never pulled the trigger on him and his female friend Beatrice, but it was an action cartoon so it's understandable.

sdp
06-07-2017, 12:21 PM
I think the toyline could totally be made today, now people online often speculate that it can't because children would eat the toys but while logical there is absolutely no evidence for that and yet it's often repeated in Mighty Max discussions.

The Mighty Max line died in the late 90s around 98 but many other brands carried the mini playset torch, especially Star Wars but we had plenty of companies making mini-playsets.

Some of the last mini playsets that were available were for Episode I and Pokemon that I remember. However with the release of the first harry potter movie which was what 2001 we saw a mini playset of hogwarts.

So to me it was more of a people stopped buying playsets rather than a "ban", since companies stopped making them likely because they weren't selling. In the last few years we have seen playsets kind of trying to make a comeback, I remember Iron Man 2 and Secret Saturdays which came out around that time had similar mini-playsets though they were pretty terrible and I seem to recall another toyline tried to do it 2 years ago as well but can't remember the name. What we have seen is smaller and smaller toys are becoming popular so who knows, maybe one day?



I found this yesterday and feel like it's so similar with this Mighty Max on so many levels...

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How exacly are they similar? They're totally different besides the transportation to worlds but even that is handled fairly different with very different rules. I like both shows but I wouldn't say they're similar.

CyberCubed
06-07-2017, 12:26 PM
It's kind of funny how many obscure 90's cartoons there were. This was before the huge anime boom which started around 1997-1998, so prior to that all of Saturday Mornings just had these obscure cartoons.

Outside of the huge shows airing at the time like TMNT, Batman:TAS, Spiderman/X-men TAS, Power Rangers, etc.....there were all these obscure and niche cartoons being made at the time. It's pretty interesting.

There's also the cartoon based on Jim Carrey's "The Mask" movie, I remember liking it as well. Hell I think there was an Ace Ventura cartoon too if I'm not mistaken

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
06-07-2017, 12:33 PM
Why would children eat just Mighty Max toys? Children under three can eat anything?

sdp
06-07-2017, 12:42 PM
There was also a dumb and dumber cartoon, I think that one was my favorite of the 3 Jim Carrey cartoons. And The mask crossed over with D&D, which I remember being mad since it made more sense for D&D to crossover with Ace Ventura since their shows were similar being only comedy and The Mask was more superhero mixed with comedy.


I wouldn't call Mighty Max obscure though, the show did air for like three years and the toys were there for most of the 90s taking a lot of shelf space.

snake
06-07-2017, 12:44 PM
I don't think it can be made today in the same detail the original line was. Those playsets are hefty plastic. Nor do I think the line would be as successful.

There's only one way to prove any of this though- bring it back!

sdp
06-07-2017, 12:54 PM
I somewhat agree, the original line began in the UK and had amazing sculpts and really gruesome details like dead animals, people and what not molded in. There was even red blood painted in some of them and a bunch of deadly devices, I mean it really was a horror fans dream. Not only that but they were engineered by people with really impressive imagination. The way things connected and the small gimmicks each playset had were awesome. I think all those details would indeed not be there any more.

When mattel bought the line I do think the playsets lost a bit of their cool factor, they didn't do as many deadly or gross out playsets and the engineering wasn't as good. Out of all the copycats that released mini-playsets (TMNT included) they were mostly jsut the basics, the only one brand that not only matched but even surpassed Mighty Max in their playsets were the Star Wars ones, they understood what made the line fun and it wasn't just shrinking the toys with a generic playset. Sadly the revivals of other brands trying playsets in recent years have been pretty boring so yeah, MM may have been a once in a lifetime thing.

CyberCubed
06-07-2017, 01:40 PM
It's weird that the young kids of today won't know anything about pre-2000's cartoons. It doesn't help matters most of these shows never got proper DVD releases or are legally streamed anywhere.

I miss the old style 90's animation before everything got that flat, thick-outline look that all modern cartoons have.

Wesley
06-07-2017, 01:42 PM
I watched an episode or two of the show but never got into it.

MsMarvelDuckie
06-07-2017, 01:53 PM
There was also a dumb and dumber cartoon, I think that one was my favorite of the 3 Jim Carrey cartoons. And The mask crossed over with D&D, which I remember being mad since it made more sense for D&D to crossover with Ace Ventura since their shows were similar being only comedy and The Mask was more superhero mixed with comedy.



You are probably confusing D&D with a different cartoon. D&D was from the mid-80's- it was long cancelled before the Mask ever even aired. Also it was NOT a comedy; it was pure fantasy adventure. And D&D never did any crossover episodes, as it was based almost entirely in the game's fantasy world, and lasted only 29 episodes.

sdp
06-07-2017, 02:29 PM
You are probably confusing D&D with a different cartoon. D&D was from the mid-80's- it was long cancelled before the Mask ever even aired. Also it was NOT a comedy; it was pure fantasy adventure. And D&D never did any crossover episodes, as it was based almost entirely in the game's fantasy world, and lasted only 29 episodes.

I was talking about Dumb and Dumber that I had mentioned earlier when I said D&D which I"m guessing you're talking about dungeons and dragons. The three Jim Carrey movie cartoons along The Mask and Ace Ventura.

It's weird that the young kids of today won't know anything about pre-2000's cartoons. It doesn't help matters most of these shows never got proper DVD releases or are legally streamed anywhere.

I miss the old style 90's animation before everything got that flat, thick-outline look that all modern cartoons have.

Kids today know cartoons of past better than a lot of us, with the advent of youtube and wikipedia/google, kids can research or come across tons of old shows. As a kid I always wanted to watch old Felix the cat cartoons after watching the Twisted Tales of Felix but never could. now a kid who watches say Power Rangers can easily find all 25 seasons to stream easily.

A kid watches Ace Ventura the movie because it was on tv or some other reason, he goes to wikipedia and finds it had a cartoon and bam! He found one. Countless of old people share their nostalgic cartoons of the 80s and 90s on facebook and social media and kids today might be interested and check them out. Sure some obscure cartoons that don't get often mentioned like say UltraForce cartoon might get shafted but overall kids are more likely to check older stuff now than in the past.

I'm not saying the average kid does this but I'm guessing a larger percentage than you'd think.

CyberCubed
06-07-2017, 02:31 PM
I don't know how many people do look for old cartoons, outside of tremendously popular franchises though. Like people would go back to watch old Batman or Spiderman cartoons, or long running anime like Pokemon and Dragonball can go back and watch older sagas/seasons they missed or never watched....but for obscure cartoons that have no long lasting franchise?

It's a bit more unlikely.

Xav
06-07-2017, 05:23 PM
And The mask crossed over with D&D, which I remember being mad since it made more sense for D&D to crossover with Ace Ventura since their shows were similar being only comedy and The Mask was more superhero mixed with comedy.It did? I remember The Mask crossing over with Ace Ventura but not Dumb and Dumber.

MsMarvelDuckie
06-07-2017, 05:50 PM
I was talking about Dumb and Dumber that I had mentioned earlier when I said D&D which I"m guessing you're talking about dungeons and dragons. The three Jim Carrey movie cartoons along The Mask and Ace Ventura.

I'm not saying the average kid does this but I'm guessing a larger percentage than you'd think.


Ah got it. Yes I was and I didn't even realize there had been a Dumb and Dumber cartoon. I can see how that might be confusing using D&D as a nickname.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
06-08-2017, 03:58 PM
I was talking about Dumb and Dumber that I had mentioned earlier when I said D&D which I"m guessing you're talking about dungeons and dragons. The three Jim Carrey movie cartoons along The Mask and Ace Ventura.



Kids today know cartoons of past better than a lot of us, with the advent of youtube and wikipedia/google, kids can research or come across tons of old shows. As a kid I always wanted to watch old Felix the cat cartoons after watching the Twisted Tales of Felix but never could. now a kid who watches say Power Rangers can easily find all 25 seasons to stream easily.

A kid watches Ace Ventura the movie because it was on tv or some other reason, he goes to wikipedia and finds it had a cartoon and bam! He found one. Countless of old people share their nostalgic cartoons of the 80s and 90s on facebook and social media and kids today might be interested and check them out. Sure some obscure cartoons that don't get often mentioned like say UltraForce cartoon might get shafted but overall kids are more likely to check older stuff now than in the past.

I'm not saying the average kid does this but I'm guessing a larger percentage than you'd think.

As a child, a didn't know much how old any series was, I could watch reruns with no idea. I just knew TMNT was still on, because of all international marketing.

Prowler
06-09-2017, 04:49 AM
When I was a kid I didn't care how old a cartoon/anime series was either. Otherwise I'd not have watched Wacky Races, Looney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, Top Cat, the Flinstones, etc. when I was a kid.

CyberCubed
06-09-2017, 11:46 AM
When I was a kid I didn't care how old a cartoon/anime series was either. Otherwise I'd not have watched Wacky Races, Looney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, Top Cat, the Flinstones, etc. when I was a kid.

When I was a kid I also had no idea those were old cartoons either. I watched them in the 90's on Cartoon Network, but all those shows came out in the 60's or earlier. So they were already 30 years old by the time I watched them for the first time.

Wesley
06-09-2017, 12:35 PM
When I was a kid I also had no idea those were old cartoons either. I watched them in the 90's on Cartoon Network, but all those shows came out in the 60's or earlier. So they were already 30 years old by the time I watched them for the first time.

I watched them in the 90s on Rte two but didn't realise they were from the 60s or earlier either.

sdp
06-09-2017, 02:16 PM
I watched tons of old cartoons thanks to Cartoon Network, but even as a kid I knew exactly when a cartoon was old. The style gives it away, I was barely old enough to understand what the "80s" were and yet I could recognize an 80s cartoon a mile away, they felt so "old" in comparison to 90s shows. And I knew Scooby-Doo, Flintstones and other shows were even older than that just because of the style. That didn't mean I didn't like them but I definitely preferred 90s cartoons as they were more modern. It's even easier for kids today to tell shows apart just by seeing if it's widescreen or not. And I'm sure they watch older shows but they prefer the shows aimed at them made now.


It did? I remember The Mask crossing over with Ace Ventura but not Dumb and Dumber.

Yeah I got them confused but there was a crossover that didn't make sense, AV and D&D made more sense than either of those with The Mask.

CyberCubed
06-09-2017, 02:21 PM
Honestly I can't watch many 80's cartoons nowadays outside the original Ninja Turtles, they're in this weird "too dated but not as good as 90's cartoons" type of mentality.

90's cartoons aged a bit better, although some of them were still obviously toned down by censors or being toy-centered series.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
06-10-2017, 03:40 AM
Tom and Jerry have existed since 1940 says Wikipedia.

ssjup81
06-10-2017, 11:09 PM
I loved this show! It was syndicated, so I can't recall what station aired it, but I used to tape it.

TheBlueTurtle1
06-11-2017, 07:47 AM
I used to watch this show from time to time.. Since Prowler open this thread I been back and watch the first 3 episodes, it's actually aged really well, and I think I shall watch the rest. I think the fact Rob Paulson voiced Max helped the show alot.

So many fun cartoons from the 90s,(that were not as big as x-men, spider-man, TMNT, disney afternoon, etc) that kids of today will miss out on, Biker Mice from Mars, Dexters lab, real ghostbusters, Garfield and friends, Recess, Hey arnold, swat kats, to name just a few.

Sigh, makes me feel old:(

CyberCubed
06-11-2017, 11:30 AM
Oh the young kids of today, I feel sorry for them. They'll never know what cartoons were like when they had actual animation and looked like slightly low-key versions of high-end Disney movies rather than the flat/paper thin outline look they use on shows today like Teen Titans Go or Steven Universe, etc.

Prowler
07-04-2017, 01:54 PM
When I was a kid I also had no idea those were old cartoons either. I watched them in the 90's on Cartoon Network, but all those shows came out in the 60's or earlier. So they were already 30 years old by the time I watched them for the first time.
Except that... my mom would eventually tell me "oh those cartoons are from my time!" and thus I'd know. Would that affect my enjoyment of them? No.