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CyberCubed
08-03-2017, 10:50 PM
For one thing, the main and original reason any of us came to the Technodrome was to discuss TMNT. We're all TMNT fans here, or else none of us would have discovered this forum in the first place. The TMNT sections could use more activity, but they're there for proper discussion.

A lot of the problems of this forums in terms of trolling/controversy/bashing/debates happens in all the non-TMNT sections. The Everything Else section in particular, the Current Events section due to politics and religion, and to a lesser extent the TV and Movies section. Almost all the worst threads or worst debates with people insulting each other happens in those sections the most. You can see it happen regularly and anyone who has been there knows this is true.

If all the non-TMNT sections of the forums were closed, then people would be "forced" to discuss TMNT here, and thus all off-topic discussion can be had in social groups where you have to ask to become a member of. Granted I know the TMNT forums have debates too, but at least it's the main reason we come here.

Should all non-TMNT discussion go to social groups instead of the forums? What do you think?

Discuss.

And before anyone asks, no, this is not a parody thread. Let's see how this thread turns out. As I said before:

Discuss.

IndigoErth
08-03-2017, 11:05 PM
No.

This thread needs to be locked.




While maybe some behavior needs to be curbed, no one is forced to respond. Or read it. Or visit sections they want closed down.

Powder
08-03-2017, 11:06 PM
Honestly, I would have no problem with that.

But really I think it's just the Current Events section that needs to go. People can't respect the no politics/religion thing, & beyond that it only serves to be a celebrity obituary anyway.

Other than that, the only problems are with certain people who create flame-bait threads with the sole intention of watching things burn, because they know the mods aren't around to deal with it.

Autbot_Benz
08-03-2017, 11:15 PM
ya get rid of current events and keep the movie/TV show section that gets a lot of buzz

snake
08-03-2017, 11:31 PM
Ban politics. Keep the rest, sometimes we can have fun.

Krutch
08-03-2017, 11:35 PM
I mostly hang out in the General Discussion side of things so I'd hate to see it axed... but I'm with Powder on this. It's not the section itself thats the problem, it's the people who actively look to cause issues that need to be straightened out.

snake
08-03-2017, 11:40 PM
Interesting to see how the quality of the forums began to decrease as soon as the "no politics/religion" rule was ignored. If you go back to the GD from, say, 2005/2006 you can see people having actual fun. Coincidentally the rule was enforced then. Really makes you think.

Papenbrook
08-03-2017, 11:42 PM
Interesting to see how the quality of the forums began to decrease as soon as the "no politics/religion" rule was ignored. If you go back to the GD from, say, 2005/2006 you can see people having actual fun. Coincidentally the rule was enforced then. Really makes you think.

Yeah. The environment was different.

Anyway, I do think that the "No politics!" rule should be enforced.

snake
08-03-2017, 11:45 PM
Yeah. The environment was different.

Anyway, I do think that the "No politics!" rule should be enforced.

Pretty ironic coming from someone who used to instigate all the time.

DestronMirage22
08-03-2017, 11:59 PM
NO.
Of course not.
I don't know about others, but I like being able to post my thoughts about non-TMNT stuff or how my day went or just chat about anything with fellow members.

I admit things can get heated up, but that's no reason to remove those entire sections because of a couple threads or whatever. The issues need to be solved directly.

newfan
08-04-2017, 12:14 AM
I don't think it's a bad thing, not all of them anyway. TMNT is the main focus of course but a lot of the fans seem to like the same kind of movies/shows so i can't see that it hurts to talk about that. Ive only just joined so not sure how it was to start, have you always done this? I don't care about politics being on here, it doesn't suit this kind of site and there is enough of it everywhere .....but then I don't have to read the threads if I choose not to.

Andrew NDB
08-04-2017, 12:16 AM
Message boards are a dying breed. You remove the community aspect of it that transcends the topic said forum is based... you end up with the same boring thing that every boring Facebook "fan page" is left with.

But the OP didn't make this thread as a serious post. C'mon.

TurtleWA
08-04-2017, 10:16 AM
Forum rules are rarely followed or enforced. Especially rule number six and four. I guess not so much rules as guidelines in the first place. Removing a certain topic area or thread won't stop anything. It will just force those topics to trickle into other areas and really derail threads. If we keep a place for the "hot" issues they can be contained at least. And people can get it out of their systems rather than dumping the issue sneakily into random threads. Trolls and folks that need drama don't care about the section title so much. It basically comes down to mod enforcement if change is required. It would be an interesting experiment if certain sections got closed down for a week or so. You know for "routine maintenance." :tgrumble: :roll:

Andrew NDB
08-04-2017, 10:30 AM
It would be an interesting experiment if certain sections got closed down for a week or so.

That'd be pretty dumb.

It seems there might be a failure to consider the most obvious of all solutions as to the "hot" threads, political threads, what-have-you: don't click on them. If you're simply unable or unwilling to resist the urge to click on one and then inevitably become upset, that speaks more to you than the original poster.

It'd be like, morbidly obese people asking the government to ban all twinkies from stores so they can't even be tempted to buy them, ever.

IndigoErth
08-04-2017, 10:34 AM
Though I'd like to smack him on the arm sometimes and should in theory be tucking his tail in over the possible link between this thread and the current most inflammatory 'Everything Else' one, I have to agree with Andrew on the community thing. If the thing a forum is dedicated to is in a bit of a lull and not offering all that much to talk about, it's nice to at least keep people around a bit with other things they can connect (or debate) over.

And private groups are just too hidden, they aren't going to encourage a lurker to participate more or catch the eye of someone who isn't in it but might have had something to offer to a discussion...

Hate on the PD films all you want, but after I joined I never had time to check out other parts of the forum until that all settled down. That stuff and the series was enough to keep up with and I didn't bother with non-TMNT areas. But since that isn't really a thing anymore and the series is winding down (with little knowledge of the next), it's nice to have other sections now.



It'd be like, morbidly obese people asking the government to ban all twinkies from stores so they can't even be tempted to buy them, ever.
Off topic (thus spoiler), but I just envisioned them being locked in a glass case like spray paint, razors, and other items, and requiring a doctor's note saying that they believe you can reasonably be okay with eating one of those things, that probably no one should be consuming anyway.

TurtleWA
08-04-2017, 10:34 AM
That'd be pretty dumb.

It seems there might be a failure to consider the most obvious of all solutions as to the "hot" threads, political threads, what-have-you: don't click on them. If you're simply unable or unwilling to resist the urge to click on one and then inevitably become upset, that speaks more to you than the original poster.

Don't click on them? Now that's dumb, my friend.

Warning! Don't click.

you clicked didn't you

Jester
08-04-2017, 10:58 AM
No, that's too draconian. We already have rules for those non-TMNT, they just need more enforcement...and I would if I could, but that sub-forum is out of my limited jurisdiction

GoldMutant
08-04-2017, 11:03 AM
I don't really see the point in doing that. Lately, General Discussion has the more frequent discussion.

At this point with TMNT, there's not a whole lot to fully discuss in the cartoon sections outside new episodes and info relating to the next series. Same with the movies. You can get a discussion out of them, but it does become irritating, especially when a certain someone wants threads locked.

Of course, there's still tons of content that can be discussed. Personally speaking, there just aren't many threads I seek out in TMNT. It brought in many users, that much is true. However, some have fallen out and want to discuss other topics; in general, it does offer some variety as a result.

I will admit that as of late, General Discussion has had a few bad threads. Some of them have been locked, some are in usage. I do feel Current Events should be locked in the distant future because there's really no activity in it. Powder said it best earlier, it's just not working with the current crop of users on specific topics compared to past users.

Locking anything else would be a detrimental blow, especially the Everything Else, Movie, and Video Game sections. There's a ton of content in them, so what would be the point of locking it? You're essentially asking for the forums to speed up their decline by removing a good percentage worth of discussion.

eskater
08-04-2017, 12:26 PM
I honestly didn't think people had a problem with the current event section to be honest. Guess I really need to stick around more. Personally it wouldn't hurt me but I don't really see a reason to get rid of it, just don't go there as often.

plastroncafe
08-04-2017, 01:04 PM
That'd be pretty dumb.

It seems there might be a failure to consider the most obvious of all solutions as to the "hot" threads, political threads, what-have-you: don't click on them. If you're simply unable or unwilling to resist the urge to click on one and then inevitably become upset, that speaks more to you than the original poster.

It'd be like, morbidly obese people asking the government to ban all twinkies from stores so they can't even be tempted to buy them, ever.

Where as I think it'd just be easier to ban people who go out of their way to be dickrinses.

Andrew NDB
08-04-2017, 01:14 PM
Where as I think it'd just be easier to ban people who go out of their way to be dickrinses.

Probably just as easy to add them to an "Ignore" list, I would tend to think.

ProphetofGanja
08-04-2017, 01:30 PM
No........

Krutch
08-09-2017, 11:36 AM
Probably just as easy to add them to an "Ignore" list, I would tend to think.

The ignore feature is worthless on this forum since you still see threads created by the user, it creates ugly breaks within threads where a post from that user would have posted, and since "ignored" users are generally attention seekers, you're almost guaranteed to read every comment they wrote anyway through other people's posts quoting them.

BubblyShell22
08-09-2017, 01:24 PM
No, I don't think the GD forums need to be closed permanently as it's nice for some of us to vent about our bad days or talk about good things. I agree about the politics thing, but the best thing to do if you don't want to talk about such subjects is to just not click on those threads and only pay attention to the ones you want to add the discussion to.

CyberCubed
08-10-2017, 02:16 AM
The ignore feature is worthless on this forum since you still see threads created by the user, it creates ugly breaks within threads where a post from that user would have posted, and since "ignored" users are generally attention seekers, you're almost guaranteed to read every comment they wrote anyway through other people's posts quoting them.

Heh, this reminds me of how Vegita-san said he has like 10-13 members on his ignore list yet for some reason still posts in threads where apparently everyone is blocked to him.

The Deadman
08-10-2017, 07:26 AM
If only TMNT talk was the only thing to talk about, it would get pretty boring pretty fast. I don't know why people complain about what others talk about on forums. Maybe some aren't Turtles fans but they're here anyway cause they like interacting with others on different topics.

newfan
08-10-2017, 07:46 AM
I've been enjoying reading some of the non TMNT threads today, I'd be up for keeping them.

BubblyShell22
08-10-2017, 02:06 PM
Yeah, some of them are pretty amusing at times.

Prowler
08-10-2017, 03:15 PM
If this became a TMNT only discussion forum it'd lose a lot of activity. The video game and especially the tv and movies sub-forums are quite active.

If anything, maybe forbidding political and religion discussion should suffice it? I used to think it was silly to disallow those, but after so many threads getting disintegrated I can now see why :lol:

sdp
08-10-2017, 05:29 PM
Not only is Cubed correct yet again, but I say he is not going far enough with his post. Clearly this forum is named after "The Technodrome" of the original series. As an official drome t-shirt (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=1373) wearing member I know what I'm talking about.

Clearly many of the users we have now have not only not watched the entire OT but have never even visited thetechnodrome.com and seen this month's POTM! Most only know the forums and not what this site is a tribute to, hint: It's the original cartoon.

I remember when even discussing 2k3 was debated about, so I say we close all non-OT TMNT sections as well and that way all users will be forced to discuss the Fred Wolf cartoon only. We can maybe allow discussion of the original TMNT trilogy and Archie/Mirage comics. Of course we don't need to alienate everyone and any non-OT TMNT discussion can all be held in a single "Other TMNT media" thread where anything post-1999 TMNT related can be talked about.

https://web.archive.org/web/20051215070305/http://forums.thetechnodrome.com:80/

#dromeshirts #delete #commente43didnothingwrong #whereisbenvenuto

Redeemer
08-11-2017, 12:49 PM
Not only is Cubed correct yet again, but I say he is not going far enough with his post. Clearly this forum is named after "The Technodrome" of the original series. As an official drome t-shirt (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=1373) wearing member I know what I'm talking about.

Clearly many of the users we have now have not only not watched the entire OT but have never even visited thetechnodrome.com and seen this month's POTM! Most only know the forums and not what this site is a tribute to, hint: It's the original cartoon.

I remember when even discussing 2k3 was debated about, so I say we close all non-OT TMNT sections as well and that way all users will be forced to discuss the Fred Wolf cartoon only. We can maybe allow discussion of the original TMNT trilogy and Archie/Mirage comics. Of course we don't need to alienate everyone and any non-OT TMNT discussion can all be held in a single "Other TMNT media" thread where anything post-1999 TMNT related can be talked about.

https://web.archive.org/web/20051215070305/http://forums.thetechnodrome.com:80/

#dromeshirts #delete #commente43didnothingwrong #whereisbenvenuto

I think thats a bit too far :lol: I like your enthusiasm though :lol:

Unfortunately TMNT is starting to go into hibernation phase again with the current tv series winding down and the movie franchise pretty much dead. I mostly post in the Non-TMNT section or the Comic section of TMNT. Bc everything else is kind of dead or dying off.

BubblyShell22
08-11-2017, 03:00 PM
Well once Rise of the TMNT starts up and we get more news on that, then discussion will come back again.

CyberCubed
08-14-2017, 05:16 PM
Well most younger fans discuss TMNT on tumblr or social media. I'm honestly surprised so many people don't know how huge the Nick TMNT fandom is on tumblr. Mostly consisting of teenagers or young girls, but they're there.

Nobody comes to forums anymore.

CyberCubed
08-14-2017, 07:16 PM
Tumblr is also filled with plenty of adults. I also don't have a tumblr myself I just use the tags to find TMNT stuff.

Jester
08-14-2017, 07:33 PM
Nines...enough. There are better ways to disagree with Cubed than constantly calling him names.

BubblyShell22
08-15-2017, 10:16 AM
People come here quite a bit. However, you also have to remember that a lot of us have lives outside of the forums and don't get on some of the time.

The Deadman
08-15-2017, 12:17 PM
Well most younger fans discuss TMNT on tumblr or social media. I'm honestly surprised so many people don't know how huge the Nick TMNT fandom is on tumblr. Mostly consisting of teenagers or young girls, but they're there.

Nobody comes to forums anymore.

Pls stop

*10 characters*

Splinter the boss
08-16-2017, 05:39 AM
Ge rid of the messed up sections, not the entire "non tmnt" section. I haven't watched tmnt in a while, and I still come to this forums, why? Because there are other interesting sections, like the tv and movie section, videogame section etc... It would hurt a lot of people if it got taken down as a whole.

ProactiveMan
08-22-2017, 03:15 AM
I dunno man, the PD movie section has caused way more trouble than the GD board in the past. I think the problem is behavior as opposed to topic.

snake
08-22-2017, 11:38 AM
Admit it, the PD board was the best thing to happen to the forums. We got an influx of new members as well as a reason to argue with them!

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-22-2017, 11:44 AM
Admit it, the PD board was the best thing to happen to the forums. We got an influx of new members as well as a reason to argue with them!

:tlol: I like your logic...

Vegita-San
08-25-2017, 08:43 AM
Message boards are a dying breed. .

Yep. and it's mostly because people don't know how to moderate them anymore. force things too much, due to the extreme nastiness of some people, and you loose folks. Force things too little, and things get heated and out of control rather fast due to over emotional people who like to cause trouble.

Message boards where much more fun not even more than 6 years ago.

it's really rather sad.

And Facebook pages are LONG ago a lost cause. they make message boards look like a safe haven.

Probably just as easy to add them to an "Ignore" list, I would tend to think.

Ignoring only goes so far.

Once people you ignore realize you have them on ignore, they odly still try to engage you and the cycle continues. you see those quoted posts and feel the need to respond after a while and..ugh.

People come here quite a bit. However, you also have to remember that a lot of us have lives outside of the forums and don't get on some of the time.

unless it's once a thursday ;o).


too quote some popular users, I think this thread needs to be locked. ;o)....

Andrew NDB
08-25-2017, 09:57 AM
Admit it, the PD board was the best thing to happen to the forums. We got an influx of new members

We got an influx of something, anyway...

http://www.1800flowerswindsorheights.flowerama.com/assets/1996/6/web_plant_a_palooza_banner_green.jpg

TurtleWA
08-25-2017, 10:34 AM
Yep. and it's mostly because people don't know how to moderate them anymore.

It's a shame that people can't moderate themselves a little more and that mods are even necessary. I think it's easy to sometimes forget there is another person behind the screen opposite yours.

Vegita-San
08-25-2017, 10:57 AM
It's a shame that people can't moderate themselves a little more and that mods are even necessary. I think it's easy to sometimes forget there is another person behind the screen opposite yours.

yep, but sadly i think the lack of knowing how to mod and adjust modding in this over reactive, overly sensitive world, is part of that too. but that's a tough job i wouldn't want a part in deciding.

there has to be a happy medium somewhere.

BubblyShell22
08-25-2017, 03:38 PM
Well, the best thing to do is if a topic isn't something you want to discuss, don't go there. I think the mods do the best they can, but as I said before, they are just like anybody else and have lives outside of the forums that sometimes take them away from the boards. I think at times like these, we just need to look at what's being discussed and if things get out of hand, report it to the mods or just don't click on those topics if you don't like what's being said.

TheCanadiandrome
09-13-2017, 11:56 PM
No, that's too draconian. We already have rules for those non-TMNT, they just need more enforcement...and I would if I could, but that sub-forum is out of my limited jurisdiction

See maybe then there needs to be more Mods/Admins or things like this need to change and you can do more. What's the point of having Mods if they can't do bugger all?

myconius
09-14-2017, 02:19 PM
We got an influx of something, anyway...

http://www.1800flowerswindsorheights.flowerama.com/assets/1996/6/web_plant_a_palooza_banner_green.jpg

https://resizing.flixster.com/SRt_zscot7DErCWTlYrO_nDL-vc=/720x481/v1.bjsyMzkzNDQ7ajsxNzQ2MjsxMjAwOzcyMDs0ODE

TurtleWA
09-14-2017, 06:12 PM
See maybe then there needs to be more Mods/Admins or things like this need to change and you can do more. What's the point of having Mods if they can't do bugger all?

I wonder where mods/admins even come from. Craigslist? How they get the gig in the first place?

Vegita-San
09-14-2017, 06:25 PM
the mod fairy, between 12AM and 2AM, duh..

Prowler
09-15-2017, 10:23 PM
I wonder where mods/admins even come from. Craigslist? How they get the gig in the first place?
I'm guessing due to 3 main factors:

- Being a good and reasonable poster;
- Being on good terms with the staff;
- Being a veteran user.

CyberCubed
09-15-2017, 10:31 PM
Machias is basically head mod of the entire forums now, isn't she? She's been around for over 15 years.

Prowler
09-15-2017, 10:36 PM
Machias is basically head mod of the entire forums now, isn't she? She's been around for over 15 years.
Yeah, I think so. After the admins/founders Shredder and Krang, she is the user with the most authority around these parts, I believe.

TurtleWA
09-16-2017, 10:27 AM
I'm guessing due to 3 main factors:

- Being a good and reasonable poster;
- Being on good terms with the staff;
- Being a veteran user.

Are you saying mods became members first and then got asked to become a mod?

CyberCubed
09-16-2017, 01:28 PM
Jester became a mod only a few years ago and he's been here since 2004, so over 14 years. But that's because Jester used to be very active on the forums before he became a Dad and was a hardcore TMNT fan for many years. And a fan of all the cartoons and comics. Jester was so hardcore he achieved mod status.

Prowler
09-16-2017, 01:50 PM
Are you saying mods became members first and then got asked to become a mod?
Yes. That's usually how it goes in forums. Admins are the people who found a forum and then they recruit members as moderators as the forum grows.

TurtleWA
09-16-2017, 02:03 PM
Yes. That's usually how it goes in forums. Admins are the people who found a forum and then they recruit members as moderators as the forum grows.

This is the only forum I'm a part of so I don't know a lot about the inner workings. That makes sense though.

TheCanadiandrome
09-18-2017, 11:15 PM
This is the only forum I've been a part of where the inner workings hardly work lol

***First of Two Latin Kings***
09-24-2017, 06:48 AM
Jester became a mod only a few years ago and he's been here since 2004, so over 14 years. But that's because Jester used to be very active on the forums before he became a Dad and was a hardcore TMNT fan for many years. And a fan of all the cartoons and comics. Jester was so hardcore he achieved mod status.

If that's true though, that's ridiculous. Being a hardcore fan doesn't qualify you to be a moderator any more than it would qualify you to be a plumber, electrician, or accountant. Being a moderator requires an ability to solve disputes fairly and diplomatically.

I was a moderator when we had the Volcanic Asteroid, and because people didn't respect the authority Krang had given me and I only had moderation abilities for that section, it didn't last long. People who didn't agree with the decision to make me a moderator purposefully tried to cause problems/havoc.

@CanadianDrome: What are you even talking about?

Vegita-San
09-24-2017, 07:08 AM
If that's true though, that's ridiculous. Being a hardcore fan doesn't qualify you to be a moderator any more than it would qualify you to be a plumber, electrician, or accountant. Being a moderator requires an ability to solve disputes fairly and diplomatically.


perhaps. but i got to stick up for jester on this one. he's one of the saner mods i've come across over various forums. got no beef with him :).

some mods are down right antagonistic, and no better than the people causing problems on said forums that you go to them for help with. some will even stick up for those types of people because of hollywood connections, or other reasons, causing said forum to become a miserable place. i just left one of those recently.

ToTheNines
09-24-2017, 07:17 AM
If that's true though, that's ridiculous. Being a hardcore fan doesn't qualify you to be a moderator any more than it would qualify you to be a plumber, electrician, or accountant. Being a moderator requires an ability to solve disputes fairly and diplomatically.

Serious question: are you retarded?

The Deadman
09-24-2017, 10:36 AM
If that's true though, that's ridiculous. Being a hardcore fan doesn't qualify you to be a moderator any more than it would qualify you to be a plumber, electrician, or accountant. Being a moderator requires an ability to solve disputes fairly and diplomatically.

I was a moderator when we had the Volcanic Asteroid, and because people didn't respect the authority Krang had given me and I only had moderation abilities for that section, it didn't last long. People who didn't agree with the decision to make me a moderator purposefully tried to cause problems/havoc.

@CanadianDrome: What are you even talking about?

You don't become a mod because you're a super fan....

CyberCubed
10-06-2017, 12:21 AM
Maybe the current events section needs to be closed down. Keep the TV/movies section, Videogames, and maybe the Everything Else forum. Close the rest of it down.

Powder
10-06-2017, 12:37 AM
Like I said on page one. I dunno how it hasn't been done already.

newfan
10-06-2017, 07:31 AM
I'm guessing all threads but those are public, except those in groups?

Coola Yagami
10-14-2017, 08:24 AM
Just keep em. If you can't take the heat, stay out of that kitchen. I barely ever visit the current event forums so I'm not getting triggered and calling for a safe place.

Drama only works if someone starts it and if someone is looking for it. Break the chain and you end the drama.

Vegita-San
10-14-2017, 10:56 AM
Just keep em. If you can't take the heat, stay out of that kitchen. I barely ever visit the current event forums so I'm not getting triggered and calling for a safe place.

Drama only works if someone starts it and if someone is looking for it. Break the chain and you end the drama.

hence why the ignore button is your best friend of defense. you don't have to see the constant nasty insults. if only people used it both ways.

Coola Yagami
10-14-2017, 12:05 PM
hence why the ignore button is your best friend of defense. you don't have to see the constant nasty insults. if only people used it both ways.

Or get a thicker skin... or you know, just don't visit that forum.

Vegita-San
10-14-2017, 12:06 PM
thicker skin only works to an extent. if people are constantly nasty, constantly insulting, constantly looking for a fight, that'll wear down even the toughest skin after a while.

sdp
10-14-2017, 04:09 PM
Can we at least NUKE this thread (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=58951)?
My stomach turns just looking at it and the insides of it are already awful, some of the worst the drome has seen in the past decade

CyberCubed
01-17-2018, 09:58 PM
More reasons why the non-TMNT sections should be shut down, threads are going out of control and people are going crazy:

The Star Wars Episode 8 thread is nothing but mindless bickering and back and forth:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=54544&page=65

This thread about a transexual Lois Lane being cast in Supergirl speaks for itself:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=59421

Current Events has mind boggling threads going on like this one:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=59342

The Sexual allegations thread filled with insane posts:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=59129

And Vegita-san being Vegita-san

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=58953


It's time, SHUT IT ALL DOWN.

http://i.imgur.com/4dLWS0W.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NKlfvWd.png?fb


At least for a little while. It's time.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/171/866/b46.jpg

Powder
01-17-2018, 10:55 PM
Once again, I agree. Maybe a temp-lock trial run?

snake
01-17-2018, 11:01 PM
Shut it down. This entire site has gone down the drain in the past 2 years. It's the same f*cking 8 people arguing and quiping at each other. And it's not even fun to watch- just annoying.

plastroncafe
01-17-2018, 11:05 PM
Just don't engage.
It's that simple.

Leonardo_thebest
01-17-2018, 11:05 PM
So the creepo who wrote "A day in May" gets to call the shots?

How does a pedophile get to call the shots, exactly?

FredWolfLeonardo
01-17-2018, 11:57 PM
Stop bringing up that fanfiction.

Bringing it can be funny in a different context, but you are just using it for Ad Hominem.

Leonardo_thebest
01-18-2018, 01:21 AM
What's funny about child porn, exactly?

FredWolfLeonardo
01-18-2018, 01:47 AM
1. Its not child porn. No real children were involved and CyberCubed isn't a criminal for writing it (even though I personally dislike the fic itself).

2. Its still irrelevant to CyberCubed's point about the non-tmnt sections of the drome. You have no other arguement other than to use Ad hominem attacks against him.

3. You're only proving CyberCubed's point about the non-tmnt sections of the drome needing to be shut down by making a thread about Trans Lois then accusing anyone who disagrees with you as a hateful Transphobic.

plastroncafe
01-18-2018, 07:31 AM
Again, y'all could have just not engaged.
Or if you needed to engage, say to counter the concept of complicity by way of silence, Then There are a multitude of ways to do that that don't implicate yourself as holding transphobic views.

I just find it funny that cubed wants the Drome closed when he is just as responsible for making provocative threads.

ProphetofGanja
01-18-2018, 08:26 AM
Again, I'm gonna vote no. If you don't like the conversation taking place in a thread, just step away. It can be frustrating or hard to do, but there are better places on the Internet to engage in sociopolitical discussions if people here can't be civil.

Currently I only read the IDW comics and the updates regarding Rise of the TMNT are few and far between so I enjoy having other topics to discuss on the site, as long as peple can keep it light. Maybe we need new/more mods here or a revamped set of rules to enforce appropriate behavior

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
01-18-2018, 08:36 AM
Close them down? When we all get along so well?

plastroncafe
01-18-2018, 08:45 AM
Right?
Like limiting the places where we disagree is going to keep us from disagreeing.

FredWolfLeonardo
01-18-2018, 09:37 AM
There are a multitude of ways to do that that don't implicate yourself as holding transphobic views.

So expressing the opinion that Lois Lane shouldn't be trans is hateful and "transphobic", but then you calling the people who disagree bastards and LeonardoTheBest constantly raving against other members by personal attacks is A-ok?

I mean, I know not everyone will agree on everything, but this is just crazy.

plastroncafe
01-18-2018, 09:44 AM
The Latin line is a quote from a book and now Emmy award-winning television series.

I posted it because someone new/quiet on the forums posted something and was Dogpiled because of it.
And I wanted to let them know that they were welcome regardless of the Dogpile.

Now, from where I'm standing if you weren't advertently trying to grind them down then you aren't one of the stated bastards.
So there's no reason to be offended.

I think there's a way to express an opinion that doesn't turn your opinion into an all-knowing value judgment.
It takes a certain level of finesse, a level of finesse that I myself am also working on.

It's the difference between having a contrary opinion and being a s#itposter.

For example:
This movie didn't work for me because of these reasons.

Vs.

This movie sucks and anyone who likes it is too stupid to realize how bad a movie it was.

Liking Lois Lane the way she is is not inherently transphobic, but the mere suggestion that a trans woman could play her at some nebulous point in the future by saying that a man shouldn't be allowed to play that character is transphobic.

Machias Banshee
01-18-2018, 08:27 PM
No, that's too draconian. We already have rules for those non-TMNT, they just need more enforcement...and I would if I could, but that sub-forum is out of my limited jurisdiction

I wanted to bump this post up to present. Since there's been a lot of comments about the amount of moderating happening here.

Let me tell you a story...

Back in early 2001-2 (I think), there was a group of us that lived on the forums constantly. We were a tight knit group that helped new members, troubleshoot posting issues, and were the official welcoming party and mango distributors of the forum. As the forum grew, Krang and Shredder asked us if we'd be willing to help. We'd gotten to know each other, we were an upbeat group, and the drome had a good reputation throughout the fandom. The place was growing in popularity, so we agreed to help.

Becoming a moderator is more than just fandom. It took positive, patient people that could settle disputes and keep the peace. If there was a dispute, we'd talk it out in a post or PM and that was it. Back then, we didn't have the kind of hostility and faction-fighting that we have now. People were expected to moderate their behavior. And they did...

Now, most moderators have moved on. We added Jester because he was a positive, outgoing guy that was genuinely like throughout the forums, and was good at keeping the peace in the threads.

The only Supermoderators now are me and GK, and unfortunately, we're both pulled away due to work/life. I am trying to get Jester up to Supermod status, so that he's not stuck monitoring and unable to do anything. He would be able to check accounts, manage threads in all the forums, research IP addresses, and warn/ban people when necessary.

We have been reviewing potential candidates for moderator status, but we would have to get it approved by Krang. Only Krang and Shredder have the administrative access to create Moderators.



So, in all, people need to moderate themselves. Everyone here is capable of looking at a thread and deciding not to post in it. S#itposting is a waste of energy and time and money. Krang and Shredder being gracious enough to pay the costs for hosting and data storage is the reason this place still exists.

I would hate to see them look at the fighting in the General Discussion forum and ask themselves why bother paying for constant fights and hatred. Why spend money on a forum that has gained one of the worst reputations in the fandom due to the fandom?

This forum was closed once. Many years ago. Krang had had enough, and this place was gone. It was a number of months until he decided to upgrade the forums and bring it back. Do we really want to risk that again?



Yes, the moderators are hard to come by. But look at what we deal with - Jester has a family to support. GK Has responsibilities outside this forum. I am taking care of a full time job, taking care of my household, and managing a new sports 'career'. Many of you have the same responsibilities. I'm lucky if I get on here once a month, but when I do, I read every single thread in existence. Want to discuss the upcoming series? Nope, gotta moderate a trump thread. Watch the amazing comic videos with the fandom voiceovers? Nope, another feminism good vs evil slugfest... The forum is not fun for me. It is work.

The thing that bothers me most... the little bit of free time we try to offer here to YOU the members, there's someone claiming abuse of power and that the moderators are both absent and overbearing/corrupt. The fact that I had to come on due to THIRTY reported posts in my email box... and then see the forum problems being blamed on the moderators?

Let me be clear...
We are not your parents
We are not lawyers
We are members, just like you
We want to enjoy the forums, just like you
We don't like when people fight, just like you

But we cannot control YOU.

YOU are the one that must Stop fighting.
YOU are the one that must Stop flamebaiting.
YOU are the one that must Stop trolling.


Every person that has received a warning from me gets the same message:

We can talk to you, we can help you, we can warn you, and we can ban you. Your fate is in your hands.



~Machias

Refractive Reflections
01-19-2018, 12:53 AM
Well I know this will be somewhat unpopular, but I'll say it.

I don't disagree with you Machias Banshee, but maybe there needs to be a through review into these forums as to who is consistently provoking, trolling, flamebaiting, etc. And there's no better way to see that then going through the Disintegrator Unit as to assess which members frequently have posts that end up there within a given span of time (i.e. ranging from 3 months to possibly a year), while also reviewing the content of the posts. ...As the saying goes, "Where there's smoke, there's fire."

There's always going to be a spectrum of personalities and trolling/flambaiting/fighting within a given population. Ultimately though, these forums reflect what the moderators permit though, just as the atmosphere of a community is set by the community's enforcement and laws. With all due respect and not to be rude, but...if you want less headaches, take a stronger disciplinary approach. It will force individuals to think harder about their posts, knowing if there are stronger repercussions; otherwise, why would they bother to reconsider their posting behavior if things continue with the status quo?

Andrew NDB
01-19-2018, 01:07 AM
It's a strange situation. It isn't 1999. It isn't even 2005, or 2010. The rules for handling these things are all different now. Message boards are a side thing now, divorced from the immediate and larger satisfaction of reaching a bigger (if traded for a much more fleeting) audience on social media. I go on Facebook, there's been times I get hit with an invite to some TMNT group that's huge, 3000 active members and has been around for 5 years and I've never heard of it. Stuff like this hits like a kidney punch, out of nowhere, and I'm a guy who's made message boards that are still out there. They're dying everyday. I don't wholly understand the reasons why, but message boards are (this is also compounded on a forum like this one that has 10 year old software that does not allow social media integration... the upgrades are available). The days of 10 moderators banning a bunch of peeps because they posted stuff this week that got others in a tiff is largely over with because... they're passe, lest those message boards just die, earlier than they would otherwise naturally.

And then there's the fact that this is a message board that's 20 years old. Which is awesome. But when it was founded the founders were about 20-35 years old and a good portion of us were all young teenagers, at best. We're not that, anymore. We're not anything close to that anymore. And message boards aren't really a draw for new folks these days.

You poke the bear on old members, you're just going to lose them. And we have. You don't upgrade the software in a 10 years, we're not going to gain any new ones. You can try and be a cutting edge 2018 message board running 2018 software that marries the old with the new social media and maybe get away with that (even then, message boards...)... but you can't be an old board running antiquated software with an old mentality holding onto a belief that this is just going to persevere into the next decade or even the next couple of years. So what do we want to do?

Back on point: banning non-TMNT sections here, in light of all of this? Insanity. You can't cultivate, let alone maintain a true community by not allowing one to happen. Removing the one thing that separates a true TMNT message board from someone replying to John James' latest post on the hippest TMNT Facebook group is the surest way to kill it faster.

Vegita-San
01-19-2018, 05:34 AM
and then you just have the changing political climate.

and I don't mean politics. I mean people going out there looking to INTENTIONALLY troll and rile people up. Or the SJW that, for whatever reason, likes to rile people up with over reactionary responses, and then slink away when they get caught.

If a few of these people would get pruned from here, I think you'd find it would be alot less infighting and things would be at least a little marginally happier.

I reported one thread three times this week, because it's just there to cause trouble, and it's still there. -edit just noticed it finally got locked. but why keep it up at all? and why is the person who started it not banned when it clearly looks like they arn't going to be a good member of the community?

stuff like that I think needs to be addressed in this new age of message boards. it's just not the same climate it was 6 years ago.

Spike Spiegel
01-19-2018, 06:09 AM
I'm absolutely one of those people who likes making jokes and quips, and I see that sort of thing as part of the unique appeal of this board in comparison to larger outlets like Reddit or Tumblr, where the interactions are far less personal.

It's not that hard to look at oneself individually and decide not to be an jerk about things. There's a delicate balance between playful banter and sh*tposting, and it seems like a lot of people here have forgotten that.

plastroncafe
01-19-2018, 07:37 AM
Here's the thing folks, removing one or two people isn't going to change the climate of this board. Updating the software isn't going to change the climate of this board. Locking the Forum to one or two topics, like a music teacher removing bars from a xylophone, isn't going to change the climate of this board.

Actually acting like a community, and respecting the boundaries of the members of that Community, is the only thing that's going to stop the infighting. This means not purposely egging people on because you think it's fun, not going out of your way to use Buzz words and terminology cuz it makes you feel cool, and actually standing Down When someone tells you you've gone too far..

And there's not a moderation banhammer in the world that can do that.

So maybe it's time we actually listen to the mods, and police our own goddamn Behavior.
Be the change you want to see in the world.

Don't like a thread, don't post in it.
Or, if you are like me and see some forms of silence as complicity, raise your objections once and then move on.

If you can't respect the other members of the board, or yourself, at least respect the mods.

Change is the only constant, and it's time to change.

ProphetofGanja
01-19-2018, 08:32 AM
I'm absolutely one of those people who likes making jokes and quips, and I see that sort of thing as part of the unique appeal of this board in comparison to larger outlets like Reddit or Tumblr, where the interactions are far less personal.

It's not that hard to look at oneself individually and decide not to be an jerk about things. There's a delicate balance between playful banter and sh*tposting, and it seems like a lot of people here have forgotten that.

I think there's also a problem caused by people misusing the term "sh!tposting" when they mean "flamebaiting". I think sh!tposting is generally more light-hearted, silly posting and flamebaiting is done expressly to offend or rile up other forum members. The definitions of words related to online affairs definitely change quickly though, so there's that

Refractive Reflections
01-19-2018, 01:50 PM
Here's the thing folks, removing one or two people isn't going to change the climate of this board. Updating the software isn't going to change the climate of this board. Locking the Forum to one or two topics, like a music teacher removing bars from a xylophone, isn't going to change the climate of this board.

Actually acting like a community, and respecting the boundaries of the members of that Community, is the only thing that's going to stop the infighting. This means not purposely egging people on because you think it's fun, not going out of your way to use Buzz words and terminology cuz it makes you feel cool, and actually standing Down When someone tells you you've gone too far..

And there's not a moderation banhammer in the world that can do that.

So maybe it's time we actually listen to the mods, and police our own goddamn Behavior.
Be the change you want to see in the world.

Don't like a thread, don't post in it.
Or, if you are like me and see some forms of silence as complicity, raise your objections once and then move on.

If you can't respect the other members of the board, or yourself, at least respect the mods.

Change is the only constant, and it's time to change.

Actually you'd be surprised how removing one or two off-key bars from a xylophone (and replacing with one or two new bars that can work in harmony with the rest of the bars) can dramatically improve the overall atmosphere of a musical piece, because everytime these off-key bars make noise, the end result is jarring.


If a few of these people would get pruned from here, I think you'd find it would be alot less infighting and things would be at least a little marginally happier.

I reported one thread three times this week, because it's just there to cause trouble, and it's still there. -edit just noticed it finally got locked. but why keep it up at all? and why is the person who started it not banned when it clearly looks like they arn't going to be a good member of the community?


That's why I mentioned earlier to look at the Disintegrator Unit subforum and other locked threads, it becomes evident who the individuals are that perpetually antagonize other members here.

plastroncafe
01-19-2018, 01:53 PM
Actually you'd be surprised how removing one or two off-key bars from a xylophone (and replacing with one or two new bars that can work in harmony with the rest of the bars) can dramatically improve the overall atmosphere of a musical piece, because everytime these off-key bars make noise, the end result is jarring.


I was specifically calling back to grammar school music class where bars not required for a particular piece of music were removed so as to lessen the temptation to go "off book" as it were, but this is interesting to know!

(It's entirely possible that grammar school music classes look a whole lot different now than they did when I was in attendance.)

Leonardo_thebest
01-19-2018, 05:40 PM
I mean people going out there looking to INTENTIONALLY troll and rile people up. Or the SJW that, for whatever reason, likes to rile people up with over reactionary responses, and then slink away when they get caught.
If a few of these people would get pruned from here, I think you'd find it would be a lot less infighting and things would be at least a little marginally happier.
I reported one thread three times this week,
This is infuriating.

I'm, genuinely sorry, that the mods were called in, for this.

Let me make it as clear as I possibly can. I WASN'T TROLLING.
Call me whatever you want, but I honestly thought it was time to give a transwoman a shot on a mainstream show. That's it. What's so wrong with that?

Yes, i got swept up in the attacks, but I didn't go looking for attacks. I thought there might be some differences of opinion, but not massive hate and aggression.

You've all mentioned how I know, you well - yeah, I didn't post often until now, because of the bullying that goes on when you say something others don't like.
I've read old posts, and finally made two posts as of late, the last one being shut down immediately because "that movies going to suck, so who cares", followed by this. It's what I was afraid of.
But, why am I the one who should be silent?

I don't know what you'd call this guy's behavior, but reporting something because you don't agree with the politics of it, is the problem. Ignore, and move on.
It's not for the Mod to editorialize on your behalf. I'm sure it's exhausting to get an ton of email alerts because some guy is uncomfortable with typed words on a screen.
30 alerts? how many came from the same loud-mouthed bully?
It was clear to me that my offense was that the suggestion in my post was read to be so preposterous as to be outright trolling. All I can say is, look around you, the world has moved forward, and though it might be pushing the boundaries for some people, it's far from shocking to suggest, for most of us.

Again, Machias, I'm sorry this happened. I hope you have a good weekend.

TurtleWA
01-19-2018, 07:02 PM
This is infuriating.

I'm, genuinely sorry, that the mods were called in, for this.

Let me make it as clear as I possibly can. I WASN'T TROLLING.
Call me whatever you want, but I honestly thought it was time to give a transwoman a shot on a mainstream show. That's it. What's so wrong with that?

Yes, i got swept up in the attacks, but I didn't go looking for attacks. I thought there might be some differences of opinion, but not massive hate and aggression.

You've all mentioned how I know, you well - yeah, I didn't post often until now, because of the bullying that goes on when you say something others don't like.
I've read old posts, and finally made two posts as of late, the last one being shut down immediately because "that movies going to suck, so who cares", followed by this. It's what I was afraid of.
But, why am I the one who should be silent?

I don't know what you'd call this guy's behavior, but reporting something because you don't agree with the politics of it, is the problem. Ignore, and move on.
It's not for the Mod to editorialize on your behalf. I'm sure it's exhausting to get an ton of email alerts because some guy is uncomfortable with typed words on a screen.
30 alerts? how many came from the same loud-mouthed bully?
It was clear to me that my offense was that the suggestion in my post was read to be so preposterous as to be outright trolling. All I can say is, look around you, the world has moved forward, and though it might be pushing the boundaries for some people, it's far from shocking to suggest, for most of us.

Again, Machias, I'm sorry this happened. I hope you have a good weekend.

Hi dude, Looking back maybe it wasnít the best choice for your first thread. That seemed a little like trolling to create a thread surrounding a ďhot button issueĒ right out the gate. Then admitting you have lurked and know how some members behave just appeared to reinforce the idea of trolling.

Maybe the thread could have been more understandable if you had already posted often. Or maybe were unaware of what gets some members fired up. But you admitted to lurking and still decided to post.

Not a good first impression. Maybe make some harmless TMNT posts. It is a TMNT forum. I would like to know how you selected your user name?

:tsmile:

sdp
02-08-2018, 11:48 AM
Current Events needs to be nuked.

CyberCubed
02-08-2018, 02:03 PM
Current Events needs to be nuked.

Reading through this thread especially is enough cause for that:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=59113&page=13

TurtleWA
02-08-2018, 04:21 PM
Reading through this thread especially is enough cause for that:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=59113&page=13

But we have fun threads like this for example. So the entire area isnít that bad.

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=59511

ProphetofGanja
02-08-2018, 04:40 PM
Yeah let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater

Machias Banshee
02-08-2018, 07:25 PM
The "His/hers/theirs" thread was getting WAY too personal. I've shut it down and moved it to the disintegrator.

The issue is not the non-tmnt sections in general, it's the hypersensitive political topics that get people escalating out of control.

If we have to reinforce the 'no politics and religion' rule that Krang initially put in place when he created the forum, then the mods and I will discuss how to move forward.

Powder
02-08-2018, 07:33 PM
If we have to reinforce the 'no politics and religion' rule that Krang initially put in place when he created the forum, then the mods and I will discuss how to move forward.

Totally should. It never works.

I think the community can police itself (to an extent) when it comes to talking turtles, generalized pop culture/life, but people are far too riled up about politics/religion/social issues not to start hurling insults & whatnot.

sdp
02-09-2018, 02:34 PM
The "good" discussions in Current Events like say the physical media thread can be moved to other sections without a problem. Let's be honest before it became a political section it was the RIP forum, we can just have a general RIP thread in another section. That would eliminate most of the "toxicity".

Andrew likes to troll and it's fine in the turtle sections :lol: but in the political ones it just doesn't work out. Outside of that section really the only ones that are constantly bringing up politics in a toxic way are Vegita San, LeonardoTheBest and Plastron Cafe in that order. Sumac and mrcaez(?) seem to only engage because of the previous ones. It's easy to be "triggered" I was too for a while but dialed it back quite a bit since but keeping politics "light" is a much better alternative.

I do think politics has become very divisive and it's spilled more and more into the media we consume for entertainment making it impossible not to make a political comment every once in a while but there's a difference between "This show is trying too hard to be PC" or "I really enjoyed all the diversity" and leaving it at that and ending up in an endless debate of pages in a topic about something else between 3/4 users which is just tiring.

Yes, we're all adults but when there are members who have such extreme opinions about certain things and it's not bad to post it in the appropriate threads, I think it's impossible to avoid right now as I mentioend but to continue to go on and on about them, it's what causes the toxic environment.

My 2 cents.

CyberCubed
02-09-2018, 02:47 PM
Outside of that section really the only ones that are constantly bringing up politics in a toxic way are Vegita San,

Vegita-san trolls the hell out of the TV/movie section too. Anything that has to do with a women director, women actress, or anything with women in authority, he pulls the "SJW" card and goes around making degrading or derogatory comments toward women and thinks there's a "war against men" going on. And he posts about it non-stop, in the everything else section too to the point where everyone notices it.

It wouldn't be so bad if every thread was constantly derailed by it.

Vegita-San
02-09-2018, 03:03 PM
i love how i get brought up first in that list. plastron and sumac are way worse than i am. I mostly stick to the tv forum anyway. and the only reason i bring it up there , is because sjw stuff ruins so many shows and movies, that it's impossible not to avoid it. and it's only going to get worse as time goes on in hollywood.

plastroncafe
02-09-2018, 03:11 PM
I'm curious as to how people define toxic.

TurtleWA
02-09-2018, 04:16 PM
I'm curious as to how people define toxic.

Can it be defined? Or is it more of a feeling thatís difficult to put into words? Or one of those you know it when you see it type of things? I imagine itís not easy to be a mod. Knowing when to step in and when to let things work themselves out naturally. I wonder how long it would have taken Sumac and LeoTheBest to settle the discussion in the last thread if it didnít get sent to the DU.

Vegita-San
02-09-2018, 04:42 PM
If your first post on this site is about a topic most people think should be banned because it's too divisive, and then you bait people in other posts...I would consider that toxic.

Some things are just people not liking the current topic of conversation. but the conversation itself is rather civil. i wouldn't call that toxic...but it would be easier if those types ignored the stuff they didn't like rather than combat with it.

i'm just glad i'm not running things as a mod. unless it's rather obvious that the person is there just to troll or cause trouble..it's rather tough sometimes to find the genuine people, and the people who like to poke the bear like andrew, but otherwise might be interested in the topic.

sdp
02-09-2018, 08:23 PM
Now I know you reading this are not toxic, you have the facts, the morality and clearly the correct way of thinking, so you must make it clear that the other person that they're incorrect and constantly bring it up in other threads. If you fit in this category, you're toxic.

I don't like to get political because my political views are widely different, over the past few months I accidentally got into more and more political topics until I realized I was being toxic. I started to clean my act up because no one wants all this baggage in every other thread no matter how many people I may feel I am correcting in their wrong views. As I mentioned it's impossible to keep politics out of certain discussions since many shows have indeed become very political but there's ways to be more concise and agree to disagree with it that doesn't end with endless debates.

I apologize for singling out people in the previous post since it's likely unfair and I used to enjoy posts from most of those people before things got bad. This place isn't getting any bigger or better moderated so why not make the best of it auto modding ourselves.

Andrew NDB
02-10-2018, 09:35 PM
The "His/hers/theirs" thread was getting WAY too personal. I've shut it down and moved it to the disintegrator.

The issue is not the non-tmnt sections in general, it's the hypersensitive political topics that get people escalating out of control.

If we have to reinforce the 'no politics and religion' rule that Krang initially put in place when he created the forum, then the mods and I will discuss how to move forward.

I don't fault the shutting down of the "His/Hers/Theirs" thread at all... but that's not politics.

newfan
02-11-2018, 04:44 AM
Obviously it's hard not to clash with sensitive subjects, they can be very personal to people and I don't have a perfect answer here, but maybe it's realising when it's escalating too much (becoming too personal between particular members)and not going to get resolved.
When an argument is put across in a non aggrieve manner I will be reading the points being made, where I see an attacking/insulting post, I find that can overshadow the points being made.

CyberCubed
02-11-2018, 11:48 AM
Vegita-san's current signature is this:

'Wrong, April. We've Been upgraded to Women hating TROLLS'

And between his constant thread de-railing, he's easily the most toxic and troll like person on the forums right now. At least everyone else has some tact.

Leonardo_thebest
02-11-2018, 02:03 PM
Vegita-san's current signature is this:

And between his constant thread de-railing, he's easily the most toxic and troll like person on the forums right now. At least everyone else has some tact.

Sumac's signature is equally obvious:
"Let's add some poison, shall we?"

Redeemer
02-12-2018, 02:53 PM
I'm curious as to how people define toxic.

I think it depends on who you ask :lol:

Leonardo_thebest
02-13-2018, 06:13 AM
It's tough to figure out for sure. :roll:


I like that you use science as your personal whore.

Sumac
02-13-2018, 07:08 AM
Sumac's signature is equally obvious:
Your first post on this forum was basically attempt to rile up as much feathers as possible, while you were pretending to be an innocent wide-eyed victim. Totally not toxic. Especially after you have buried thread about pronounce discussion.

Look after yourself and concentrate less on what people have in their signatures, little nuisance.

Vegita-San
02-13-2018, 11:53 AM
Your first post on this forum was basically attempt to rile up as much feathers as possible, while you were pretending to be an innocent wide-eyed victim. Totally not toxic. Especially after you have buried thread about pronounce discussion.
.

and using terms like cis bro to bait people in other threads. why people like this are not banned instantly is something else that needs to be brought up at the next mod meeting. it's pretty clear they are nothing but trouble.

I think it depends on who you ask :lol:


Obviously. although in some cases, all you have to do is read and even without tone, through the souless texts of the internet, you can kind of judge a persons intentions just by how they reply to people. like telling someone to STBeepU just because you don't like what they say. that's not exactly a happy person.

OR calling someone a woman hating troll, despite posting pretty much exactly the same type of stuff what the person you just called out as being posts.... that's not so much toxic as it is a little coo coo..

Leonardo_thebest
02-13-2018, 02:03 PM
There was ZERO intent to rile people up. There was an attempt to see how people would react, but I didn't expect such a negative reaction.
The two of you are too much. You attacked me I fought back. You don't like being called names, then don't instigate.
Respect goes a long way.

sdp
02-14-2018, 10:40 AM
Toxic thread in 3...2...1..

There was ZERO intent to rile people up.

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=59592

Yeah, I know I know, this thread is "stirring the pot",


Why are guys like Vegital-san and Sumac so angry? They seem to be part of a growing wave of hatred for women, and the LGBTQ community.

Guy's? Real talk. Why so much anger? I really don't think you need a dick to play ghostbuster, do you?
It don't make sense.

I'm curious as to how people define toxic.


it's just unbridled entitlement.

Okay, we're going to take a little break... just because someone doesn't like the same thing you do, doesn't make them a bigot or racist or sexist or whatever phobic. People need to take a breath...

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
02-14-2018, 10:43 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/VOq7iem25Z94Y/giphy.gif

plastroncafe
02-14-2018, 10:47 AM
This will be nice practice for everyone to show the mods that we can behave like adults..

So now all The Usual Suspects have to do is behave like adults.

Vegita-San
02-14-2018, 11:16 AM
Toxic thread in 3...2...1..



yep, not toxic or baiting at all.... silly us and our theories :).

can't you all just feel the valentines day love in the air ;o).

Leonardo_thebest
02-14-2018, 11:28 AM
yep, not toxic or baiting at all.... silly us and our theories :).

can't you all just feel the valentines day love in the air ;o).

Come and talk it out, you'll feel better. This is the olive branch.
It's okay. You'll see, we're not that scary.

FredWolfLeonardo
02-14-2018, 11:49 AM
Toxic thread in 3...2...1..

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=59592

I am not gonna touch that thread with a ten foot pole!

The moment any thread has people claiming that others are toxic, nuke it into oblivion till the points its forever uninhabitable. (aka the disintegrator unit).

plastroncafe
02-14-2018, 11:52 AM
I am not gonna touch that thread with a ten foot pole!

The moment any thread has people claiming that others are toxic, nuke it into oblivion till the points its forever uninhabitable. (aka the disintegrator unit).

Don't worry, it's just a thread about Ethics in ComicBook Storytelling.

FredWolfLeonardo
02-14-2018, 11:57 AM
Don't worry, it's just a thread about Ethics in ComicBook Storytelling.

Judging from the posts I saw sdp quoting, looks more like this to me.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Rsaup7qeMDRFzXXXgPwDPT3Ycwd6rVcnx14QauVwW9z64ukrxi uz7Nu9y8jEpmeXB52t8-GHDg=w443-h332-nc

plastroncafe
02-14-2018, 11:59 AM
Judging from the posts I saw sdp quoting, looks more like this to me.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Rsaup7qeMDRFzXXXgPwDPT3Ycwd6rVcnx14QauVwW9z64ukrxi uz7Nu9y8jEpmeXB52t8-GHDg=w443-h332-nc

Half of those aren't even in the thread in question though.
They're cherry picked from other discussions.

I'm still waiting for folks to define Toxic for me.
Which is a quote from this thread.

Leonardo_thebest
02-14-2018, 11:59 AM
I have FAITH we can do this.

FredWolfLeonardo
02-14-2018, 12:06 PM
Half of those aren't even in the thread in question though.
They're cherry picked from other discussions.

I'm still waiting for folks to define Toxic for me.
Which is a quote from this thread.

Fair enough with the first point.

As for toxicity, I don't believe there is any such thing aside from the stuff emitted by snakes, Just a new label people these days have used to describe what they believe to be wrong and must be censored.

I imagine its because outright banning someone for saying something wrong would be considered a violation of Freedom of Speech, so we have created all these exceptions/loopholes like hate speech, Freedom of Speech is not free, toxic. Basically: "You can say anything you want, as long as it is acceptable." Not that I'm against it or anything, I believe its only natural that people will want to surpress what they consider to be immoral.

Leonardo_thebest
02-14-2018, 12:23 PM
To be fair, I've been edited here precisely because you didn't like what I had to say. If we're actually doing free speech, the mods wouldn't be rung 30 plus times, and we'd have no disintegrator unit.

plastroncafe
02-14-2018, 12:46 PM
Fair enough with the first point.

As for toxicity, I don't believe there is any such thing aside from the stuff emitted by snakes, Just a new label people these days have used to describe what they believe to be wrong and must be censored.

I imagine its because outright banning someone for saying something wrong would be considered a violation of Freedom of Speech, so we have created all these exceptions/loopholes like hate speech, Freedom of Speech is not free, toxic. Basically: "You can say anything you want, as long as it is acceptable." Not that I'm against it or anything, I believe its only natural that people will want to surpress what they consider to be immoral.

Unless is the US Government doing the censoring, there's precious little that's a violation of the First Amendment. What a lot of people confuse with Free Speech violations are really just communities creating and maintaining their own standards of decorum.

The Mods could easily make a rule saying: We will ban anyone who uses SJW or FanBro, and they'd be well within their rights to do so.

That's not violating anyone's Free Speech.

Sumac
02-14-2018, 01:22 PM
Come and talk it out, you'll feel better. This is the olive branch.
It's okay. You'll see, we're not that scary.
No ones is scared.
People just don't want to waste their time on you.

Leonardo_thebest
02-14-2018, 01:49 PM
No ones is scared.
People just don't want to waste their time on you.

The thread has a lot of interest.
Everybody's getting along, but you.

Machias Banshee
02-14-2018, 08:50 PM
Know what, you two both need to step back and stop instigating the hell out of each other.

Right now. I'm seriously sick of your back and forth bickering. And yes, I'm saying this out in public...

Knock it off.


~Machias