Disney ending Netflix Deal going to start own streaming service

[Autbot_Benz]

Disney will end its distribution deal with Netflix and launch its own streaming service, the company announced today. It intends to launch the service in 2019.

The move is a huge blow to Netflix, which secured a valuable streaming deal with Disney back in 2012 — before streaming really took off. The deal only kicked into effect last year, so Netflix is barely seeing any benefit here.

At the same time, it’s a natural step for Disney, which has a huge library of valuable content to offer.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/8/16115254/disney-launching-streaming-service-ending-netflix-deal?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

[NinjaPug]

Don't see how this is a huge blow to Netflix. They lose a few Disney movies. All of those new releases had expiration dates to begin with once they hit the broadcast cable networks.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I wonder if that means most of the Marvel content will also migrate away from Netflix...

[Autbot_Benz]

I wonder if that means most of the Marvel content will also migrate away from Netflix...

Marvel Movies are included but I don't think the Netflix Marvel shows are affected since they are Netflix originals.

[NinjaPug]

Yeah the Marvel Netflix shows aren't going anywhere. I wonder if this will hurt future seasons of these existing shows though. I'm sure Disney would rather have Marvel TV working on new shows that will be on this new service.

[TigerClaw]

Yeah the Marvel Netflix shows aren't going anywhere. I wonder if this will hurt future seasons of these existing shows though. I'm sure Disney would rather have Marvel TV working on new shows that will be on this new service.
I could see future Marvel animated shows being exclusive on Disney's streaming service.

[Candy Kappa]

I'm really not a fan of this excessive amount of streaming services that have and are popping up. Netflix was convenient for having a little bit of everything for a reasonable price, but now there's so many with their own shows and I'm not interesting in paying a premium for 7-8 different services.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm really not a fan of this excessive amount of streaming services that have and are popping up. Netflix was convenient for having a little bit of everything for a reasonable price, but now there's so many with their own shows and I'm not interesting in paying a premium for 7-8 different services.

Same. HBO, Hulu, Amazon Prime, and I'm sure there are many more. I'm not paying for a bunch of subscriptions. One and done.

[Candy Kappa]

DC is getting one, the Star Trek one... there's way too many of them.

[Jester]

Indeed. My wife and I have Netflix and Amazon Prime...and I wonder how long those won't be worth it because everyone will just start their own service.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

DC is getting one, the Star Trek one... there's way too many of them.

I wonder, if in any way, this will boost DVD/Bluray sales.

Rather than have a ton of subscriptions, wait a few months and then buy the DVDs. That's my strategy, anyway...

[TigerClaw]

I'm really not a fan of this excessive amount of streaming services that have and are popping up. Netflix was convenient for having a little bit of everything for a reasonable price, but now there's so many with their own shows and I'm not interesting in paying a premium for 7-8 different services.
I have a feeling, cause they are Disney, they are gonna charge a premium price for there streaming service.

[Autbot_Benz]

Yeah the Marvel Netflix shows aren't going anywhere. I wonder if this will hurt future seasons of these existing shows though. I'm sure Disney would rather have Marvel TV working on new shows that will be on this new service.

CEO Bob Iger told CNBC's Julia Boorstin Disney had a "good relationship" with Netflix, but decided to exercise an option to move its content off the platform. Movies to be removed include Disney as well as Pixar's titles, according to Iger. Netflix said Disney movies will be available through the end of 2018 on its platform. Marvel TV shows will remain

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/08/disn...-services.html

[ProphetofGanja]

The excessive proliferation of streaming services is highly annoying

[Jester]

The only thing that could make this worth while if it essentially threw open the "Disney Vault" for good and for ill.

[Autbot_Benz]

The only thing that could make this worth while if it essentially threw open the "Disney Vault" for good and for ill.

agreed get rid of that unnecessary Cash Grab aka the Vault.

[Jester]

agreed get rid of that unnecessary Cash Grab aka the Vault.
And I mean EVERYTHING! Song of the South...EVERYTHING!

[oldmanwinters]

The only thing that could make this worth while if it essentially threw open the "Disney Vault" for good and for ill.

agreed get rid of that unnecessary Cash Grab aka the Vault.

Hope y'all got your VHS copy of Walt Disney's Pinocchio before April, 1994:
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[Jester]

Hope y'all got your VHS copy of Walt Disney's Pinocchio before April, 1994:
kRcza_H3Xic
My parents did...*wipes brow*

[oldmanwinters]

My parents did...*wipes brow*

Well, that's a good thing, because all those internet clickbait articles are so dutiful to inform us that our Disney VHS collection is now worth a fortune big enough to pay for a kid's college education!
:lol:

[TurtleWA]

And I mean EVERYTHING! Song of the South...EVERYTHING!

I know some people that would like all the Five Mile Creek episodes get a release as well. I remember watching Song of The South as a kid at my Grandmas house. Never thought of it as racist when I was a kid.

[ProactiveMan]

It was only a matter of time before the studios set up their own services - I think Warner Brothers have one already for their classic catalog.

Netflix don't pay very well apparently, and the barrier for entry into VOD is getting lower every day.

[Jester]

My local library has a Chinese bootleg, somehow. It's probably about as much a "product of it's time" as Gone with the Wind.

[TurtleWA]

In my opinion I think Netflix sees 'the writing on the wall.' That's why the push for more original content. It's only a matter of time before Nickelodeon and probably NBCuniversal and all others pull away from NF as well.

We are moving from the time of channel surfing to now app surfing. All owners of content will want to keep said content and not allow other streaming services access. But then probably a big company like Comcast will come along and offer all the apps in a bundle for $300 a month.

Maybe I'll get a library card and start checking out seasons of popular shows. Never seen Game of Thrones do to not having HBO, also need to watch last few seasons of Big Bang Theory because I don't have the CBS app.

[oldmanwinters]

We are moving from the time of channel surfing to now app surfing. All owners of content will want to keep said content and not allow other streaming services access. But then probably a big company like Comcast will come along and offer all the apps in a bundle for $300 a month.

Haha, this is totally the way the cable companies (or company, after they all buy each other out) will try to stay in business by creating a new monopoly.

[Shark_Blade]

Well I'm a sucker for Disney films, marvel and Star Wars, so bring it on Disney.

[Cure]

I see. So maybe that's why there's no Star Wars on Netflix yet...

Rogue One is on Netflix.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

http://screenrant.com/disney-netflix-marvel-star-wars/

Netflix is trying to keep Star Wars and Marvel content on their site... we'll see if Disney plays ball or not...

[oldmanwinters]

http://screenrant.com/disney-netflix-marvel-star-wars/

Netflix is trying to keep Star Wars and Marvel content on their site... we'll see if Disney plays ball or not...

What a high-stakes hostage situation!

[TurtleWA]

http://screenrant.com/disney-netflix-marvel-star-wars/

Netflix is trying to keep Star Wars and Marvel content on their site... we'll see if Disney plays ball or not...

I think if Netflix manages to keep StarWars and Marvel the licensing price is going to be so huge that is won't easily be publicly disclosed. Disney has all the power in this negotiation. If I was Disney I would give Netflix nothing. Lower their value enough and then buy them out.

[oldmanwinters]

I think if Netflix manages to keep StarWars and Marvel the licensing price is going to be so huge that is won't easily be publicly disclosed. Disney has all the power in this negotiation. If I was Disney I would give Netflix nothing. Lower their value enough and then buy them out.

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[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

-ke87AhXxag

Wrong lever, Kronk.

[TurtleWA]

Netflix who? Disney doing this all the way to the bank.
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[Shark_Blade]

Rogue One is on Netflix.

Cheers!

I think if Netflix manages to keep StarWars and Marvel the licensing price is going to be so huge that is won't easily be publicly disclosed. Disney has all the power in this negotiation. If I was Disney I would give Netflix nothing. Lower their value enough and then buy them out.

That is so evil, it just might work. :evilgrin: :shredder:

[Autbot_Benz]

Marvel and Star Wars movies will be moving to the Disney Streaming site

http://collider.com/marvel-star-wars-movies-disney-streaming-service-app/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=social#images

but Disney CEO Bob Iger announced today what we already figured: Marvel and Star Wars movies are also moving to the Disney streaming service and the Netflix deal is not being renewed.

[Autbot_Benz]

Loki Tom Hiddleston and Scarlet Witch Elizabeth Olsen will be getting TV shows on the Disney Streaming Service.


Other Heroes who haven't had Stand Alone movies could be getting the same treatment

http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/09/...-scarlet-witch

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Loki Tom Hiddleston and Scarlet Witch Elizabeth Olsen will be getting TV shows on the Disney Streaming Service.


Other Heroes who haven't had Stand Alone movies could be getting the same treatment

http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/09/...-scarlet-witch

I'd rather have a Scarlet Witch movie and absolutely nothing else with Loki.

[TigerClaw]

Loki Tom Hiddleston and Scarlet Witch Elizabeth Olsen will be getting TV shows on the Disney Streaming Service.


Other Heroes who haven't had Stand Alone movies could be getting the same treatment

http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/09/...-scarlet-witch
That's cool. Perhaps the Loki series will be a prequel telling his origin.

[ranger_scout]

Now that Disney+ has launched, contrary to previous reports the original Dumbo is available in its entirety and did not remove the crows. However, they decided to do something similar like with what Warner Bros. did with the character of Mammy Two-Shoes in recent releases of classic Tom & Jerry cartoons by giving fans a warning that the feature might contain outdated cultural depictions of characters. A few other movies also have that description.

https://ew.com/movies/2019/11/12/dumbo-old-movies-content-warning-disney-plus/

[Sumac]

Now that Disney+ has launched, contrary to previous reports the original Dumbo is available in its entirety and did not remove the crows. However, they decided to do something similar like with what Warner Bros. did with the character of Mammy Two-Shoes in recent releases of classic Tom & Jerry cartoons by giving fans a warning that the feature might contain outdated cultural depictions of characters. A few other movies also have that description.

https://ew.com/movies/2019/11/12/dumbo-old-movies-content-warning-disney-plus/
Best compromise really.

[IndigoErth]

So is this the end of Disney stuff on Netflix now?

Considering how long ago this topic originally came up I thought maybe some kind of deal remained, since at least some Disney has seemed to remain on Netflix, but now that they've started the ad for the streaming service... :ohwell:

[Andrew NDB]

Disney really has some funny ideas about how to market Disney+ on social media...

https://i.ibb.co/3RvGdsL/desp.jpg

[Andrew NDB]

Disney+ set to censor its stock of movies on it. Looks like "Splash" is the first, or at least the first people have noticed:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/splash-gets-a-furry-cg-butt-on-disney/

[sdp]

Sucks, we'll never see many "kid" friendly mature stuff there, simpsons will be further edited etc. We will never see official merchandise or anything ever again of slave leia or twilek stuff in the EU in the future anymore either. Wolverine has begun to get his cigarette's edited out of reprints of older Marvel material, so not even future stuff but old stuff is not immune to sanitizing their franchises.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Sucks, we'll never see many "kid" friendly mature stuff there, simpsons will be further edited etc. We will never see official merchandise or anything ever again of slave leia or twilek stuff in the EU in the future anymore either. Wolverine has begun to get his cigarette's edited out of reprints of older Marvel material, so not even future stuff but old stuff is not immune to sanitizing their franchises.

So you're telling me the exhibits in my Slave Leia Basement Museum just became MORE valuable?

[Andrew NDB]

Disney+ just put out a Pixar short about a gay kid coming out to this parents.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/25/entertainment/pixar-out-gay-character-trnd/index.html

Perfect material for the little ones to see. This is OK, but let's censor Darryl Hannah in "Splash"?

[Leo656]

To be fair, they've been promising for a while now that this sort of thing was coming, and would be a prominent part of their brand going forward.

I kinda see both sides of it. I get why they're trying to encourage acceptance and help young people who are struggling with their identity or whatever. But just about every parent I know in Real Life is one of the "MY kid ain't gonna be allowed to watch stuff like that" type. That's still the vast majority of parents. So on a business level, it's questionable, even if there's a nobility to it.

I'm straight, but although I didn't hit puberty until 10 I "awakened" early and already had a fascination and semi-understanding of boobs and girls and sex by age 5 (which apparently happens a lot in my family, so maybe it's genetic). So I can't in good faith say that there's a specific age when it's "appropriate" to expose kids to such material. By the time I was 10 and my parents gave me "The Talk", it was incredibly redundant because I'd already learned everything from books and porn. I think I was like, 7 or 8 the first time I saw two chicks go down on each other, in graphic uncensored detail. So by the time I even knew the basic mechanics of sex, I was fully aware that some people were gay and what that entailed.

So I don't know. I think it's different for every individual as to what's "appropriate" and what they can handle. I don't think stuff like this can "warp" a kid - in my case, all that happened was I grew up to be a huge pervert, but that was likely gonna happen anyway :lol: - BUT I have always questioned whether stuff like this is the right or best way to broach the subject at all. One of the things about Disney that always allowed them to have such broad appeal was because they were kind of apolitical. Their content was a bit "safe" and sterilized but there was nothing that anyone could object to no matter how liberal or conservative they were, they were "just" well-executed children's entertainment. This kind of thing though is dramatically off-putting to at least half of their audience so it kind of stands out to me as a very questionable business move.

((Shrug))

[Andrew NDB]

I don't really care that they're putting out stuff like that... I care that they're putting out stuff like that while at the same time doing the censorship of far, far less dubious things.

Like even this, now. They're now digitally blurring out cleavage shots from stuff like "Wizards of Waverly Place." Basically... stuff that aired on the Disney Channel is too risque for Disney+?

https://www.darkhorizons.com/disney-under-fire-for-cleavage-blurring/

[Leo656]

Yeah that is a ridiculous double-standard, I agree. Especially on a paid subscription service. Such "babysitting" goes against the entire point of keeping content behind a paywall in the first place. Why should anyone pay money for censorship? That's terrible.

I sincerely don't understand how "back in the day" sex and nudity was pretty much 90% of people's entertainment, and we still ended up where we are NOW. We have thousands of years worth of statues and paintings and drawings and whatever else, which should conclusively prove that 1. People are obsessed with sex and nudity as a rule, 2. That's Perfectly Fine, and 3. Growing up surrounded by sex and nudity can ONLY make you a better, more enlightened person, and not the opposite.

Yet now we're supposedly so "advanced", but we have to "protect" people from cleavage. Not even NIPPLES, but cleavage? :roll:

I plain don't trust anyone who's afraid of tits. Tits are one of the best things about being alive. They're majestic. There's a direct correlation between the point where we became collectively "afraid" of tits, and how stupid everyone and everything is nowadays.

You're right. It's stupid that kids can see stuff about gay relationships but they can't see cleavage. Y'know how many kids walk in on their parents having sex at least once in their lifetime? Statistically, a lot. I think cleavage is the least of their problems.

Dumb.

[Xav]

Like even this, now. They're now digitally blurring out cleavage shots from stuff like "Wizards of Waverly Place." Basically... stuff that aired on the Disney Channel is too risque for Disney+?

https://www.darkhorizons.com/disney-under-fire-for-cleavage-blurring/But the episode was censored when it aired. Disney+ didn't change everything.

[Andrew NDB]

But the episode was censored when it aired. Disney+ didn't change everything.

The article is saying it was reported that it wasn't censored when it aired.

[Xav]

Well the replies to the tweet it uses as a source shows it was censored as early as 2009.

[Leo656]

But WHY on Earth would Disney even hire an actress with such spectacular cans in the first place if they were just gonna censor them later, thus defeating the entire purpose? They could've hired some Kristen Stewart lookalike and saved themselves the trouble.

My niece used to love "Wizards of Waverly Place" so I had to see it a lot back then. Not a terrible show but good ol' Mrs. Russo sure made it a lot more fun to watch, that's for sure.

To obstruct hooters like that in any way should be a felony. She shouldn't even be allowed to wear a shirt, it's a crime against nature. Nobody buys a Ferrari to keep it in the garage under a goddamn tarp.

Things really went to sh*t when the hyper-sensitives took over.

My wife suspects it's because a bunch of heavyset and unattractive women are making all of Disney's decisions now and that they're incredibly insecure, thus things like this and "No More Slave Leia", and so on. She said it in much nastier terms, but she does have a vagina so maybe she's onto something.

[Coola Yagami]

But WHY on Earth would Disney even hire an actress with such spectacular cans in the first place if they were just gonna censor them later, thus defeating the entire purpose? They could've hired some Kristen Stewart lookalike and saved themselves the trouble.

My niece used to love "Wizards of Waverly Place" so I had to see it a lot back then. Not a terrible show but good ol' Mrs. Russo sure made it a lot more fun to watch, that's for sure.

To obstruct hooters like that in any way should be a felony. She shouldn't even be allowed to wear a shirt, it's a crime against nature. Nobody buys a Ferrari to keep it in the garage under a goddamn tarp.

Things really went to sh*t when the hyper-sensitives took over.

My wife suspects it's because a bunch of heavyset and unattractive women are making all of Disney's decisions now and that they're incredibly insecure, thus things like this and "No More Slave Leia", and so on. She said it in much nastier terms, but she does have a vagina so maybe she's onto something.

IDK, the last few years it feels there's been movements or something where women are trying so hard to make men go out with heavier set women and almost feel shamed for wanting to go for a hot fit babe instead.

Kinda like the fat acceptance movement, rather than try to solve the problem let's pretend it isn't there, glorify it and shame whoever dares question it.

[Autbot_Benz]

But WHY on Earth would Disney even hire an actress with such spectacular cans in the first place if they were just gonna censor them later, thus defeating the entire purpose? They could've hired some Kristen Stewart lookalike and saved themselves the trouble.

My niece used to love "Wizards of Waverly Place" so I had to see it a lot back then. Not a terrible show but good ol' Mrs. Russo sure made it a lot more fun to watch, that's for sure.

To obstruct hooters like that in any way should be a felony. She shouldn't even be allowed to wear a shirt, it's a crime against nature. Nobody buys a Ferrari to keep it in the garage under a goddamn tarp.



Fun Fact that woman in question was also the voice of Hawkgirl in the Justice League Cartoons and yes she is hot

[Leo656]

Huh, I was not aware of that particular casting. I learned something today!

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

My brother got Disney+ a few days ago for the whole family. After putting Spider-Man 81, Amazing Friends, Spider-Man 95, 90s X-men and Darkwing Duck on my wishlist, I basically have nothing more that I'd want to watch.

[Vicky82]

Disney in the UK are getting rid of all the Disney Channels and moving everything to Disney Plus.

https://www.ladbible.com/entertainment/tv-and-film-disney-is-shutting-down-its-kids-channels-in-the-uk-20200626?fbclid=IwAR2GoNTxc2hsi3aFdKDohiN4oOM0T_IG azzcv8NQR5OMx8hGYos_3i5lLWQ

Even though I haven't watched any of the Disney channels in years, it's still kinda sad that there going. I remember when they first aired in the UK, Late 1995 and Gargoyles was one of the 1st shows airing on it.

[Zulithe]

Wow, just straight up getting rid of the channels eh? That's definitely their long term hope but I wasn't expecting to see it happen so soon.

Anyway for 69 a year I think D+ is amazing value if you have 1 or more kids. They could watch pretty much nothing other than D+ and have plenty of content for many many years. It's taking a while for the original programs I'm most interested in to roll out, but so far I've loved Mandalorian and some of the documentary series they launched

[Andrew NDB]

They're doing monthly meetings with "groups" to see what movies should be slapped with what warnings.

https://mol.im/a/9327239

[Leo656]

Man, the Disney Corporation of Today would never have been able to give us gems like "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?", just for one example.

We are not in any way progressing as a species.

[sdp]

They're doing monthly meetings with "groups" to see what movies should be slapped with what warnings.

https://mol.im/a/9327239

I'd rather get warnings than this, clearly it's going to be one or the other, so better "the other"
https://ruinmyweek.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/disney-gives-daryl-hannah-a-hairy-butt-in-hilarious-splash-edit.png

Man, the Disney Corporation of Today would never have been able to give us gems like "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?", just for one example.

We are not in any way progressing as a species.


Well you can say that about many of the different Disney era's, they've changed a lot depending on the decade and for the most part successfully. The Disney of 2030 will also be doing things Disney of 2020 wouldn't.

So you're telling me the exhibits in my Slave Leia Basement Museum just became MORE valuable?
I think slave leia is allowed to be done again just under a different name "Hutt Slayer Leia"