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AlZarkovski
08-22-2017, 03:33 PM
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #76

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/1708/23/tmnt76a.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/1708/23/tmnt76b.jpg
Tom Waltz (W), Kevin Eastman (W/VC), Damian Couceiro (A/C), Ryan Brown (VC)

"Invasion of the Triceratons" Part 1 of 5. A small force of armed extra-dimensional Triceratons have arrived in the heart of NYC! Will the Earth welcome them or destroy them?

FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet points:
• The start of a major new story arc!


Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Universe #16

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/1708/23/tmntuniverse16a.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/1708/23/tmntuniverse16b.jpg
Chris Mowry (W), Giannis Milonogiannis (A/VC), Freddie Williams II (C), Jake Smith (VC)

"Freedom" Part 1 of 2. Journey back to the height of the Triceraton rebellion against the Utroms and learn the secret history of the Triceraton commander who will have a major impact on the lives of the TMNT!

FC • 32 pages • $4.99

Bullet points:
• Ties into the TMNT ongoing's "Invasion of the Triceratons!"


Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters II #1

http://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/1720xauto/public/TMNT-GB_V2_01A.jpg?itok=SCNQd4AZ
Erik Burnham (W), Tom Waltz (W), Dan Schoening (A), Dan Schoening (A/C), Dave Wacther (VC), Karl Moline (VC), Kevin Eastman (VC), Freddie E. Williams II (VC)

The two beloved franchises reunite for a new adventure more action-packed and hilarious than ever! The Turtles are stuck in a ghost dimension by an old adversary and only the Ghostbusters can save them. The ensuing adventure will be an inter-dimensional romp like never seen before!

FC • 32 pages • $3.99


Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters II #2

http://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/1720xauto/public/TMNT-GB_V2_02_CovB.jpg?itok=oar9iSxv
Erik Burnham (W), Tom Waltz (W), Dan Schoening (A/C), Pablo Tunica (A/VC), Donny Tran

As the teams split up to evade their spectral pursuers, Michelangelo and Peter Venkman enter a dimension populated by anthropomorphic animals... including Turtle Ghostbusters!

FC • 32 pages • $3.99


Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters II #3

http://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/1720xauto/public/TMNT-GB_V2_03_CovRI.jpg?itok=zL589fo0
Erik Burnham, Tom Waltz (W), Dan Schoening (A/C), Tadd Galusha (A/VC), Chris Johnson (VC).

Leonardo and Winston face formidable foes in the form of ferocious frogs.

FC • 32 pages • $3.99


Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters II #4

http://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/1720xauto/public/TMNT-GB_V2_04_CovB.jpg?itok=X3zpiu19
Erik Burnham (W), Tom Waltz (W), Dan Schoening (A), Mark Torres (A/VC), Dan Schoening (C), Ben Bishop (VC).

Viking spirits war over Raphael's body! Will Ray be able to figure out a solution before Raph goes berserk?

FC • 32 pages • $3.99


Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters II #5

http://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/1720xauto/public/TMNT-GB_V2_05_CovB.jpg?itok=z8-rQszl
Erik Burnham (W), Tom Waltz (W), Dan Schoening, Charles Paul Wilson III (A/VC), Dan Schoening (C), Adam Gorham (VC).

The climactic conclusion as the teams reunite to face their adversaries... and a long lost ally!

FC • 32 pages • $3.99


Other crossover covers here (http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/exclusive-the-tmnt-meet-the-ghostbusters-again-in-first-look-at-comic-crossover).

ChosenOne
08-22-2017, 03:38 PM
"Ferocious frogs", huh? :D

Is that Cajun Leatherhead, aka Jess Harley, on the #2 Cover A?! :o

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-22-2017, 03:42 PM
In looking at all the pretty covers, I completely missed the text!

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters II #1
The two beloved franchises reunite for a new adventure more action-packed and hilarious than ever! The Turtles are stuck in a ghost dimension by an old adversary and only the Ghostbusters can save them. The ensuing adventure will be an inter-dimensional romp like never seen before!
Expected in-store date: 11/1/17

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters II #2
As the teams split up to evade their spectral pursuers, Michelangelo and Peter Venkman enter a dimension populated by anthropomorphic animals… including Turtle Ghostbusters!
Expected in-store date: 11/8/17

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters II #3
Leonardo and Winston face formidable foes in the form of ferocious frogs!
Expected in-store date: 11/15/17

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters II #4
Viking spirits war over Raphael's body! Will Ray be able to figure out a solution before Raph goes berserk?
Expected in-store date: 11/22/17

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters II #5
The climactic conclusion as the teams reunite to face their adversaries… and a long lost ally!
Expected in-store date: 11/29/17

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-22-2017, 03:42 PM
Punk Frogs, maybe?

And what long-lost ally?

ChosenOne
08-22-2017, 03:44 PM
I just noticed this and I love it: "face formidable foes in the form of ferocious frogs". Channeling our inner Stan Lee, are we? :D

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-22-2017, 03:49 PM
I just noticed this and I love it: "face formidable foes in the form of ferocious frogs". Channeling our inner Stan Lee, are we? :D

It's called alliteration, you pagan. :trazz:

All informed individuals ingress an invitation with intellect.

ChosenOne
08-22-2017, 03:51 PM
I'm well aware, I just love the feeling of unrestrained sillyness and even camp that it evokes, especially as it pertains to these issues with the dimension of anthropomorphic creatures. Those should be a lot of fun!

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-22-2017, 03:53 PM
I'm well aware, I just love the feeling of unrestrained sillyness and even camp that it evokes, especially as it pertains to these issues with the dimension of anthropomorphic creatures. Those should be a lot of fun!

Aw man. You didn't respond with alliteration. I wanted an Alliteration Rap Battle. :trazz:

Yeah, I'm expecting a bunch of familiar Playmates faces in that issue...

ChosenOne
08-22-2017, 04:02 PM
My sincerest sympathies, saintly sir. Seldom seen or scribbled are my skills at searching for synonyms (when feeling too lazy to think them up by myself).

A world of anthropomorphic animals brings to mind the future from Turtles in Time, this one at least looks to be far more cheerful and bright. It's indeed the perfect occasion for a bunch of Z-list character cameos.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-22-2017, 04:07 PM
My sincerest sympathies, saintly sir. Seldom seen or scribbled are my skills at searching for synonyms (when feeling too lazy to think them up by myself).

A world of anthropomorphic animals brings to mind the future from Turtles in Time, this one at least looks to be far more cheerful and bright. It's indeed the perfect occasion for a bunch of Z-list character cameos.

That post was absolutely full of winning! :tlol:

Chaotix12345
08-22-2017, 04:11 PM
This sounds like SO much freaking FUN. Ghost Darius, Dark Turtles, interdimensional travel, and even a potential Punk Frog tease (Perhaps in an alternate dimension where the Frogs were mutated INSTEAD of the Turtles?) While the first crossover was pretty much your standard team-up of this nature, THIS one seems like it's taking FULL advantage of the possibilities and that's just great. Can't wait to pick this up. :D

CyberCubed
08-22-2017, 04:28 PM
It continually amazes me how IDW manages to get nearly every notable old TMNT character from a past series into their universe somehow. Just recently we got Antrax, Ace Duck, Crying Hound, Stump and Sling, Malinga is coming, and now in this we get Dark Turtles and possible Punk Frogs.

spookycookies
08-22-2017, 04:35 PM
So for an LCS to be able to order an Eastman Variant for #1 they need to order 20 copies of #1-5? Like combined or like 100 individual comics? This could be trouble...

So my bet for the long lost ally is that it could be Harold. If they are dimension hopping it is possible he could be the one to bring them all home.

But it will probably just be Slimer or something who knows.

MikeandRaph87
08-22-2017, 05:36 PM
Punk Frogs, maybe?

And what long-lost ally?

That was my thought exactly die to the slip the punk Frogs ate coming soon. It did not happen with Toad Baron, but perhaps here. Just why would they fit into a Ghostbusters crossover?

This the exact text, "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters II #3—Cover A: Dan Schoening and Cover B: Tadd Galusha
Erik Burnham, Tom Waltz (w) • Dan Schoening, Tadd Galusha (a) • Dan Schoening (c)
Leonardo and Winston face formidable foes in the form of ferocious frogs!
FC • 32 pages • $3.".


Also, here is the text of#5 in regard to the long-lost ally,"
Erik Burnham, Tom Waltz (w) • Dan Schoening, Charles Paul Wilson III (a) • Dan Schoening (c)

The climactic conclusion as the teams reunite to face their adversaries… and a long lost ally! FC • 32 pages • $3.99"

It might not be a TMNT ally but a Ghostbusters ally. You all who are fans beyond the two movies might have idea in reference to IDW's continuity. TMNT -wise what about Harold Llija?

ProphetofGanja
08-22-2017, 05:47 PM
Oh man, so many awesome covers to check out

What a freaking great year for IDW TMNT

ToTheNines
08-22-2017, 07:12 PM
Damn, I'm a complete nut about my variant covers. I have every single issue of IDW, and they all have the cover that was drawn by the interior artist. And these have a cover for Schoening and one for the guest artist each issue. What to do?

DestronMirage22
08-22-2017, 09:32 PM
Man, this mini looks like it'll be a ton of fun! Can't wait!

Hmm, "long lost ally"? Who could that be? Tang Shen??? :o

AlZarkovski
08-23-2017, 12:34 AM
Full Solicitations added in 1 post!

TurtleWA
08-23-2017, 12:55 AM
Full Solicitations added in 1 post!

TMNT universe #16 will have two covers both RI?

AlZarkovski
08-23-2017, 01:01 AM
TMNT universe #16 will have two covers both RI?
No, this is a bug. As well as "Karai's Path".

TurtleWA
08-23-2017, 01:02 AM
No, this is a bug. As well as "Karai's Path".

Thanks for clarification. :tsmile:

neatoman
08-23-2017, 04:52 AM
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #76

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/1708/23/tmnt76a.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/1708/23/tmnt76b.jpg
Tom Waltz (W), Kevin Eastman (W/VC), Damian Couceiro (A/C), Ryan Brown (VC)

"Invasion of the Triceratons" Part 1 of 5. A small force of armed extra-dimensional Triceratons have arrived in the heart of NYC! Will the Earth welcome them or destroy them?

FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet points:
• The start of a major new story arc!


Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Universe #16

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/1708/23/tmntuniverse16a.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/1708/23/tmntuniverse16b.jpg
Chris Mowry (W), Giannis Milonogiannis (A/VC), Freddie Williams II (C), Jake Smith (VC)

"Freedom" Part 1 of 2. Journey back to the height of the Triceraton rebellion against the Utroms and learn the secret history of the Triceraton commander who will have a major impact on the lives of the TMNT!

FC • 32 pages • $4.99

Bullet points:
• Ties into the TMNT ongoing's "Invasion of the Triceratons!"


Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters II #1

http://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/1720xauto/public/TMNT-GB_V2_01A.jpg?itok=SCNQd4AZ
Erik Burnham (W), Tom Waltz (W), Dan Schoening (A), Dan Schoening (A/C), Dave Wacther (VC), Karl Moline (VC), Kevin Eastman (VC), Freddie E. Williams II (VC)

The two beloved franchises reunite for a new adventure more action-packed and hilarious than ever! The Turtles are stuck in a ghost dimension by an old adversary and only the Ghostbusters can save them. The ensuing adventure will be an inter-dimensional romp like never seen before!

FC • 32 pages • $3.99


Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters II #2

http://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/1720xauto/public/TMNT-GB_V2_02_CovB.jpg?itok=oar9iSxv
Erik Burnham (W), Tom Waltz (W), Dan Schoening (A/C), Pablo Tunica (A/VC), Donny Tran

As the teams split up to evade their spectral pursuers, Michelangelo and Peter Venkman enter a dimension populated by anthropomorphic animals... including Turtle Ghostbusters!

FC • 32 pages • $3.99


Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters II #3

http://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/1720xauto/public/TMNT-GB_V2_03_CovRI.jpg?itok=zL589fo0
Erik Burnham, Tom Waltz (W), Dan Schoening (A/C), Tadd Galusha (A/VC), Chris Johnson (VC).

Leonardo and Winston face formidable foes in the form of ferocious frogs.

FC • 32 pages • $3.99


Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters II #4

http://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/1720xauto/public/TMNT-GB_V2_04_CovB.jpg?itok=X3zpiu19
Erik Burnham (W), Tom Waltz (W), Dan Schoening (A), Mark Torres (A/VC), Dan Schoening (C), Ben Bishop (VC).

Viking spirits war over Raphael's body! Will Ray be able to figure out a solution before Raph goes berserk?

FC • 32 pages • $3.99


Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters II #5

http://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/styles/1720xauto/public/TMNT-GB_V2_05_CovB.jpg?itok=z8-rQszl
Erik Burnham (W), Tom Waltz (W), Dan Schoening, Charles Paul Wilson III (A/VC), Dan Schoening (C), Adam Gorham (VC).

The climactic conclusion as the teams reunite to face their adversaries... and a long lost ally!

FC • 32 pages • $3.99


Other crossover covers here (http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/exclusive-the-tmnt-meet-the-ghostbusters-again-in-first-look-at-comic-crossover).

I wasn't sure about the #75 Cover but now I'm sure with the Universe #16 cover, that's Traximus!
https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/3/3b/Traximus.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090914230214

MikeandRaph87
08-23-2017, 05:28 AM
So Agent Bishops story ties into a Triceraton invasion! I wonder how Vurnow Island will play into this. Tracking them to Earth and have a similar agenda to the Nick cartoon?

November will be another incredible month!

spookycookies
08-23-2017, 06:43 AM
Man this could not get any better. I wonder how it will play out over 5 issues, 10 if all the universe issues tie into it closely. I am guessing we will of course see the EDF in action and maybe the foot but the big question is: If the Earth the Pantheon is fighting over was being invaded, would they step on to protect it?

This is super exciting!

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-23-2017, 07:40 AM
Awesome. Finally, finally we're getting the Triceraton invasion storyline.

With Bishop in the mix, and maybe (hopefully) even Burnow Island!

ChosenOne
08-23-2017, 07:56 AM
The only downside I can find with this storyline is that IDW "burning through" so many "obligatory" storylines (Bishop, Maligna, the Usagi crossover, the Triceraton invasion, etc) so fast makes it seem like #100 really could be the end. :ohwell:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-23-2017, 08:04 AM
The only downside I can find with this storyline is that IDW "burning through" so many "obligatory" storylines (Bishop, Maligna, the Usagi crossover, the Triceraton invasion, etc) so fast makes it seem like #100 really could be the end. :ohwell:

Yeah, but remember, IDW hasn't closed the book on any of these antagonistic characters/organizations yet.

Bishop and the EPF aren't going to be defeated by Issue #100; Stockman is probably going to be around for a long time yet; we still haven't seen the Mutanimals go to war with Null; the Triceratons will still be out there; we're only getting back to Krang after 29 issues, not even counting Ch'rell; we haven't seen Hun since #47...

I'm not worried.

Sabacooza
08-23-2017, 08:05 AM
The only downside I can find with this storyline is that IDW "burning through" so many "obligatory" storylines (Bishop, Maligna, the Usagi crossover, the Triceraton invasion, etc) so fast makes it seem like #100 really could be the end. :ohwell:That would be a very sad day.

Utrommaniac
08-23-2017, 09:11 AM
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Okay, I had a feeling it would go in that direction, but still.

This is probably where Ch'rell is going to shine after all. My assumption is that the Triceratons will find out where the Utroms are, and without Krang to protect them, depending on how the trial goes, will probably take advantage of that opportunity. And while they're at it, expand their own empire on the planet their bloodlines originally came from.

ProphetofGanja
08-23-2017, 09:23 AM
Wow, ****ing A! IDW just keeps hitting high notes

CyberCubed
08-23-2017, 11:20 AM
I'm glad to see the Triceratons finally get some proper showcasing.

The only downside I can find with this storyline is that IDW "burning through" so many "obligatory" storylines (Bishop, Maligna, the Usagi crossover, the Triceraton invasion, etc) so fast makes it seem like #100 really could be the end. :ohwell:

Nah, IDW TMNT probably doesn't have a planned end at this point. There's only two reasons it would end, either sales of the ongoing dip below 5,000 a month (which is very unlikely, TMNT is IDW's most popular series), or for some reason Viacom doesn't allow IDW to renew their license, the latter which is a possibility. But I don't see it happening since Viacom seems happy with their partnership with IDW.

I think issue #100 will be the "grand finale" of most of the current plotlines, but they're probably already kicking around ideas for issue 101 and beyond.

Weapons@theready
08-23-2017, 11:39 AM
I definitely don't see IDW calling it quits after issue 100. There are still many stories to be told, even after they wrap up the threads they are dealing with right now. Obviously haven't seen the extent of Maligna's involvement, but I figure if the Turtles are the ones behind thwarting her plans in the Dimension X arc, that we may very well see her plot her revenge on Earth after issue 100.

neatoman
08-23-2017, 02:10 PM
I definitely don't see IDW calling it quits after issue 100. There are still many stories to be told, even after they wrap up the threads they are dealing with right now. Obviously haven't seen the extent of Maligna's involvement, but I figure if the Turtles are the ones behind thwarting her plans in the Dimension X arc, that we may very well see her plot her revenge on Earth after issue 100.

Obvioulsy they're not planning on stopping at 100, nor will they stop seeing the license has to be maintained. The question is, how long will the numbering last?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-23-2017, 02:31 PM
Obvioulsy they're not planning on stopping at 100, nor will they stop seeing the license has to be maintained. The question is, how long will the numbering last?

Hopefully for the entire run.

Renumbering is stupid and needlessly mercenary. Leave it to the big two, who went creatively bankrupt years ago.

ChosenOne
08-23-2017, 02:39 PM
I sure hope the numbering goes up to #150 and even further beyond. It's squandered potential if they restart after #100, can you imagine IDW TMNT making it to 172 issues? One reader would say "Wow, this comic has run for 100 issues more than Archie's TMNT Adventures!" and the other would go "Who?" :D

Speaking of Archie influences and this series making it past #100, who else would love to see the Mutanimals in space?!

CyberCubed
08-23-2017, 03:21 PM
It does seem like IDW is going through a checklist of all major TMNT stories or characters to adapt. We're finally getting our Triceraton invasion of Earth (something both the original cartoon, 4kids and Nick did, and to a lesser extent Mirage very briefly at the end of Vol. 2), as well as a lot of Archie influences with Malinga, Null, Stump Asteroid, etc.

In terms of major stories they've hit almost all the big ones, besides a proper Battle Nexus tournament and maybe more time travel or space stories.

snake
08-23-2017, 03:28 PM
I hope IDW does more of their own stories following 100. The Pantheon was a step in the right direction.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-23-2017, 03:32 PM
I hope IDW does more of their own stories following 100. The Pantheon was a step in the right direction.

Agreed. Although--pipe dream here--I'd rather IDW wrapped up everything by Issue #150, closed the book, and then made way for a new "adultier" Mirage-esque take on the franchise.

But Nick will never sign off on that, so... yeah, IDW can keep going for as long as it can. It's the best I can get anymore. :tsmile:

CyberCubed
08-23-2017, 03:38 PM
In terms of stories everything has kind of already been done. With Shredder gone for now, you have your gang wars between the Foot and other mobsters or gangs in NY, you have your alien aspect with Krang/Utroms, Triceratons and other Dimension X aliens, you have all your random mutant stories with the Mutanimals and other one-off mutants, you have Bishop and the U.S. government protecting Earth from aliens or mutants, and then you have your time travel stories, etc.

Other than introducing some more old characters that haven't debuted yet like Rahzar/Tokka, Armaggon, Lord Dregg, or some Nick characters like Tiger Claw, they've covered almost everything.

snake
08-23-2017, 04:02 PM
You are a very uncreative person.

spookycookies
08-23-2017, 04:02 PM
In terms of stories everything has kind of already been done. With Shredder gone for now, you have your gang wars between the Foot and other mobsters or gangs in NY, you have your alien aspect with Krang/Utroms, Triceratons and other Dimension X aliens, you have all your random mutant stories with the Mutanimals and other one-off mutants, you have Bishop and the U.S. government protecting Earth from aliens or mutants, and then you have your time travel stories, etc.

Other than introducing some more old characters that haven't debuted yet like Rahzar/Tokka, Armaggon, Lord Dregg, or some Nick characters like Tiger Claw, they've covered almost everything.

Well it isn't like they can't and haven't been doing their own stuff for a while now. There is plenty they can do without having to rehash source material. I hope this book has a LOT of life left and we can go beyond the usual arcs that we have come to expect from each new TMNT iteration.

neatoman
08-23-2017, 04:06 PM
In terms of stories everything has kind of already been done. With Shredder gone for now, you have your gang wars between the Foot and other mobsters or gangs in NY, you have your alien aspect with Krang/Utroms, Triceratons and other Dimension X aliens, you have all your random mutant stories with the Mutanimals and other one-off mutants, you have Bishop and the U.S. government protecting Earth from aliens or mutants, and then you have your time travel stories, etc.

Other than introducing some more old characters that haven't debuted yet like Rahzar/Tokka, Armaggon, Lord Dregg, or some Nick characters like Tiger Claw, they've covered almost everything.

Or you know, make up new characters and stories?

ChosenOne
08-23-2017, 04:12 PM
Let's not forget we're still two years away from #100, and between the main ongoing, Universe and whatever else pops up, there's still quite a lot of ground that can be covered in regards to other essential characters and storylines in that time.

So the Battle Nexus, Maligna, Ch'rell, Null, Hun and other dangling threads could still be explored; "new" villains like Tokka & Rahzar, Dregg and Armaggon* could still be introduced; and other classic beats like Splinter's death and the return of the Shredder could still happen.

Heck, I bet Splinter's death will happen for sure.

The thing that would thrill me the most if this comic is to continue past #100 would be a Shredder War between Raph, Karai and Ch'rell, and eventually a resurrected Saki, all vying for the mantle of the Shredder with the Turtles caught in the middle. I feel that would pay tribute to several of the iterations that came before while leaving enough room for IDW to make it their own story. That seems to be the winning formula anyway.

* - Why not kill two birds with one stone, and have another time travel story with Renet taking the Turtles to a different future from the one in Turtles in Time #4 now that they've averted Shredder and Krang's rule, and have Armaggon pop up as the big bad of that arc? Among all the possible shout-outs to Archie, one could even bring up the fact that we're not quite in the clear of a global rise in sea level just yet...

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-23-2017, 04:32 PM
Let's not forget we're still two years away from #100, and between the main ongoing, Universe and whatever else pops up, there's still quite a lot of ground that can be covered in regards to other essential characters and storylines in that time.

So the Battle Nexus, Maligna, Ch'rell, Null, Hun and other dangling threads could still be explored; "new" villains like Tokka & Rahzar, Dregg and Armaggon* could still be introduced; and other classic beats like Splinter's death and the return of the Shredder could still happen.

Heck, I bet Splinter's death will happen for sure.

The thing that would thrill me the most if this comic is to continue past #100 would be a Shredder War between Raph, Karai and Ch'rell, and eventually a resurrected Saki, all vying for the mantle of the Shredder with the Turtles caught in the middle. I feel that would pay tribute to several of the iterations that came before while leaving enough room for IDW to make it their own story. That seems to be the winning formula anyway.

* - Why not kill two birds with one stone, and have another time travel story with Renet taking the Turtles to a different future from the one in Turtles in Time #4 now that they've averted Shredder and Krang's rule, and have Armaggon pop up as the big bad of that arc? Among all the possible shout-outs to Archie, one could even bring up the fact that we're not quite in the clear of a global rise in sea level just yet...

It's like you want me to fall in love with you... :tlol:

TurtleWA
08-23-2017, 04:47 PM
Well it isn't like they can't and haven't been doing their own stuff for a while now. There is plenty they can do without having to rehash source material. I hope this book has a LOT of life left and we can go beyond the usual arcs that we have come to expect from each new TMNT iteration.

Even if IDW has the license forever and the numbering stayed the same. Big changes will eventually come with the creative team, right? How long do creative folks in the comic industry usually like to stick with projects? Would all the same team be creatively fresh and motivated to do turtle stuff in 4 more years? I mean that would be near a decade working on the same book for some of them. And if a new team came in they might want to start over and do their own origin story and other usual arcs even if the numbering stayed the same. It's just hard to imagine lots of totally new content being added to the franchise. But I would be in favor of it.

ProphetofGanja
08-23-2017, 05:09 PM
In terms of stories everything has kind of already been done. With Shredder gone for now, you have your gang wars between the Foot and other mobsters or gangs in NY, you have your alien aspect with Krang/Utroms, Triceratons and other Dimension X aliens, you have all your random mutant stories with the Mutanimals and other one-off mutants, you have Bishop and the U.S. government protecting Earth from aliens or mutants, and then you have your time travel stories, etc.

Other than introducing some more old characters that haven't debuted yet like Rahzar/Tokka, Armaggon, Lord Dregg, or some Nick characters like Tiger Claw, they've covered almost everything.

You are a very uncreative person.

Or you know, make up new characters and stories?

Yeah man, for real

https://68.media.tumblr.com/ed0bff877ace96653f3d060b92b0e93b/tumblr_og1c8jBIB51tnden1o1_250.gif

There's countless unexplored story opportunities. I do hope we get more slice-of-life stories with the IDW Turtles, to me they're often at their most entertaining when they're relaxed and just hanging out. But of course I still want to see the IDW team come up with new characters for them to interact with, both friends and foes. Old Hob and the Pantheon have been great additions to the TMNT mythos, I think they can come up with other worthwhile contributions.

And I still want a Spider-Man crossover, dammit :tlol:

ToTheNines
08-23-2017, 05:31 PM
He's a dumb ass. He can't help it.

CyberCubed
08-23-2017, 06:27 PM
Or you know, make up new characters and stories?

Which we have recently with Hakk-R, but his role in all his appearances so far has been a quick fight with the Turtles but they get away. I wonder if he'll continue past #75 or whatever happens to him.

snake
08-23-2017, 08:39 PM
One new character? Welp, quota's filled.

ProphetofGanja
08-23-2017, 08:42 PM
One new character? Welp, quota's filled.

Everybody pack it up, time to go home

CyberCubed
08-23-2017, 09:30 PM
We usually get more old characters re-imagined than new ones.

In the Dimension X arc so far we've gotten two new characters, the guy from the second issue, (who generally feels like Belly Bomb and Joe eyeball merged into one character) and the ball thingies from the first one if you count them, but besides that we've gotten Crying Hound, Stump/Sling, Antrax, Ace Duck, and we know Malinga is coming.

In the upcoming Ghostbusters mini we know the ghost of Darius and the Dark Turtles will be used. Prior to that we had Bishop and Darkwater both from the cartoons. Of the Mutanimals not counting Hob himself, the only other new characters are Sally and Herman the crab. I do love that we have Koya and Bludgeon with Karai though rather than old familiar mutants.

The good thing is the Pantheon has a nice mix of new and old characters, with more emphasis on new ones. Gothano, Toad Baron, Kitsune and Aka are new, while Rat King, Jagwar and Manmoth are old. One of the reasons the Pantheon genuine feels exciting is it's not based on any old material and the new characters they can do anything with.

A lot of the new characters we do get from IDW tend to be secondary human characters, like Harold and his wife, Jennika, Woody, etc. But a lot of the major villains or recurring characters tend to be from TMNT history, and we already have Ch'rell teased too to possibly be the next big villain after Shredder/Krang.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-23-2017, 09:31 PM
Everybody pack it up, time to go home

Don't forget to turn out the lights on the way out.

CyberCubed
08-24-2017, 04:57 AM
Come to think of it since #51 began the new story arc, the only new IDW characters we've gotten besides the reveal of the last few Pantheon members are Jennika, Harold's wife and Hakk-R.

- The first story arc opened with Jennika, Darius and Jammerhead/Street Phantoms, the latter two from Fast Forward.

- Then we had the Old Hob/Mutanimals and Hun arc, nobody new introduced.

- Utroms wake up on Burnow Island, Ch'rell is teased, then we just had Traag and Granitor return for another fight

- Leatherhead finally debuted in IDW as well

- Then just Kitsune using Alopex to attack the Turtles and them going after her in Alaska

- Then the finale of the Darius/Street Phantom story, this did introduce Harold's wife. So that's the only other new character so far.

- Bishop debuted and he originated in 2k3, as well as Dark Water with Agent Winter and Knight. For those who don't know Dark Water is from Season 8 of the original cartoon.

- Then of course the Pantheon arc introduced new characters like Gothano, Toad Baron, etc. Jagwar and Manmoth are from Archie.

- Current Dimension X arc introduced Hakk-R and the alien from the second issue, everyone else is an old character. Everyone else like Antrax, Stump/Sling, Crying Hound, Ace Duck, etc. are old characters reimagined. Malinga is also from Archie.

- In Universe it's the same, we got the IDW debut of Wyrm, a Metalhead story, the Bishop intro arc, Toad Baron, the IDW debut of Dreadmon, Karai's arc.


So since #51 we've gotten 2 new IDW original Pantheon members (Gothano, Toad Baron, in addition to Aka and Kitsune who are IDW created), two new human allies like Jennika and Harold's wife, and then just one real new villain in Hakk-R, and the alien from Dimension X #2.

So as seen just in the whole last batch of issues from #51 on, IDW does tend to bring back old characters moreso than create new ones. Maybe after issue 100 we'll see IDW introduce more new original characters.

2K3
08-24-2017, 05:53 AM
In terms of stories everything has kind of already been done. With Shredder gone for now, you have your gang wars between the Foot and other mobsters or gangs in NY, you have your alien aspect with Krang/Utroms, Triceratons and other Dimension X aliens, you have all your random mutant stories with the Mutanimals and other one-off mutants, you have Bishop and the U.S. government protecting Earth from aliens or mutants, and then you have your time travel stories, etc.

Other than introducing some more old characters that haven't debuted yet like Rahzar/Tokka, Armaggon, Lord Dregg, or some Nick characters like Tiger Claw, they've covered almost everything.

I agree; outside of say "Terracide", "The Future Shark Trilogy" and (like you said) a "Battle Nexus Tournament", most of the stories have been done.

That being said, I'm really looking forward to this (long-overdue) Triceraton storyline. Hopefully it'll be on par with the 6 part epic of 2K3 Season 3 (Space Invaders/ Worlds Collide)

snake
08-24-2017, 08:23 AM
I'm gonna argue that the Future Shark Trilogy is the most creative the franchise has ever been. How do you even come up with that sh*t?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-24-2017, 08:30 AM
I'm gonna argue that the Future Shark Trilogy is the most creative the franchise has ever been. How do you even come up with that sh*t?

The same way you come up with "teenage mutant ninja turtles."

Drugs. Just all the drugs. Incredible drugs.

Weapons@theready
08-24-2017, 10:22 AM
I would be interested in seeing a TMNT vs Mutanimals arc...I don't know what it would be about but it would be interesting to see them actually pitted against each other rather than just the brief differences in ideology that Hob has in contrast to the Turtles

DestronMirage22
08-24-2017, 10:26 AM
One new character? Welp, quota's filled.

Everybody pack it up, time to go home

Don't forget to turn out the lights on the way out.

What, are we not gonna lock the door?

ChosenOne
08-24-2017, 10:33 AM
I would be interested in seeing a TMNT vs Mutanimals arc...I don't know what it would be about but it would be interesting to see them actually pitted against each other rather than just the brief differences in ideology that Hob has in contrast to the Turtles

Me too! I do hope the comic eventually gets around to that, Hob's war on mankind has been a long time in the making for it to just be brushed aside.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-24-2017, 10:52 AM
I would be interested in seeing a TMNT vs Mutanimals arc...I don't know what it would be about but it would be interesting to see them actually pitted against each other rather than just the brief differences in ideology that Hob has in contrast to the Turtles

Sick idea. I like it. :tgrin:

ChosenOne
08-24-2017, 11:04 AM
Of course, I don't think the current Mutanimals roster sans Slash would be able to stand up to the Turtles for long... They're due for a couple of reinforcements (Ace Duck and Dreadmon? Yes, please!).

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-24-2017, 11:15 AM
Of course, I don't think the current Mutanimals roster sans Slash would be able to stand up to the Turtles for long... They're due for a couple of reinforcements (Ace Duck and Dreadmon? Yes, please!).

Herman the Hermit Crab is a walking tank, and I don't even remember the last time we saw the Turtles win a fight. The Gauntlet Battle, I guess?

If the Turtles go into a fight with anyone more than street thugs (with or without invisibility cloaks), I'm willing to bet on the other side. IDW TMNT are quite often ridiculously underskilled.

C'mon, we never even saw them beat Oroku Saki. Not ONCE.

Weapons@theready
08-24-2017, 11:24 AM
Herman the Hermit Crab is a walking tank, and I don't even remember the last time we saw the Turtles win a fight. The Gauntlet Battle, I guess?

If the Turtles go into a fight with anyone more than street thugs (with or without invisibility cloaks), I'm willing to bet on the other side. IDW TMNT are quite often ridiculously underskilled.

C'mon, we never even saw them beat Oroku Saki. Not ONCE.

Good point on them being underskilled, but that Gauntlet battle was against four super mutants...Bebop, Rocksteady, Koya and Bludgeon. So looking at the current Mutanimals roster(sans Slash) you have Hob, Mondo, Ray, Sally, Pete, and Herman. I think its a fairer fight, however you put Slash into the equation that changes things. Maybe their fight could stem from their differences in approach to rescuing Slash.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-24-2017, 11:43 AM
Good point on them being underskilled, but that Gauntlet battle was against four super mutants...Bebop, Rocksteady, Koya and Bludgeon. So looking at the current Mutanimals roster(sans Slash) you have Hob, Mondo, Ray, Sally, Pete, and Herman. I think its a fairer fight, however you put Slash into the equation that changes things. Maybe their fight could stem from their differences in approach to rescuing Slash.

Hakkr has kicked their butts.
Amenon kicked their butts.
Hun kicked their butts.
Slash kicked their butts.
Manmoth, Jagwar, and Gothano kicked their butts.
Metalhead 2.0 kicked their butts.
Leatherhead kicked their butts.

That's just since the Gauntlet Battle. Fights they've WON? Hakkr (but I'm willing to bet he kicks their butts in #74-#75 and Dimension X was just inconsistent), the Street Phantoms, and I think that's it.

One Mirage Turtle could take on all four IDW Turtles and win. Any of the four Mirage Turtles.

CyberCubed
08-24-2017, 12:18 PM
A proper Battle Nexus tournament would be really interesting in IDW because they have so many characters to choose from. They can even have the Mutanimals enter with the Turtles to have more familiar faces around, whereas the 2k3 version just had them face random aliens we didn't know about.

Then have a few villains enter and it would be great. I'd also love to see Leatherhead, Anemon, Crying Hound, etc. enter.

And if they want it could be their way of introducing the Ultimate Ninja and Drako into the IDW-verse too if they want.

Redeemer
08-24-2017, 12:45 PM
I wasn't sure about the #75 Cover but now I'm sure with the Universe #16 cover, that's Traximus!
https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/3/3b/Traximus.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090914230214

Hell Yeah!!!!!! Finally some Triceraton action!!!!!

snake
08-24-2017, 01:01 PM
A proper Battle Nexus tournament would be really interesting in IDW because they have so many characters to choose from. They can even have the Mutanimals enter with the Turtles to have more familiar faces around, whereas the 2k3 version just had them face random aliens we didn't know about.

Then have a few villains enter and it would be great. I'd also love to see Leatherhead, Anemon, Crying Hound, etc. enter.

And if they want it could be their way of introducing the Ultimate Ninja and Drako into the IDW-verse too if they want.
Battle Nexus would be awesome. I'm a sucker for tournament arcs.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-24-2017, 01:10 PM
Battle Nexus would be awesome. I'm a sucker for tournament arcs.

I'm a sucker for 4Kids' original ideas. The good ones, I mean... not the crap like Garbageman or Cody Jones. Cody O'Neil. Whatever the kid's name was.

neatoman
08-24-2017, 01:28 PM
I'm a sucker for 4Kids' original ideas. The good ones, I mean... not the crap like Garbageman or Cody Jones. Cody O'Neil. Whatever the kid's name was.

Cody Jones. By the way, what you consider the good and bad ideas?

ChosenOne
08-24-2017, 01:38 PM
Good point on them being underskilled, but that Gauntlet battle was against four super mutants...Bebop, Rocksteady, Koya and Bludgeon. So looking at the current Mutanimals roster(sans Slash) you have Hob, Mondo, Ray, Sally, Pete, and Herman. I think its a fairer fight, however you put Slash into the equation that changes things. Maybe their fight could stem from their differences in approach to rescuing Slash.

Pete is a non-factor, Hob is nothing to write home about in hand-to-hand but probably the most dangerous of the bunch due to sheer ruthlessness and tactics, Mondo isn't much of a fighter, Sally is just a "normal" mutant who shouldn't be much more dangerous than Karai (and Leo regularly one-shots Kara), Seymour I'm on the fence about but he wouldn't be anythng the Turtles haven't faced before... And so that leaves us with Ray and Hob as the only real tactical threats, and Herman as the only real physical threat. Funny thing about hermit crabs in a square "shell", though: flip them on their back and they're pretty much neutralized. I'm sure Donnie could figure out and arrange for that. Even funnier thing, his weapon of choice works great for flipping enemies over... Also consider the fact that Hob and Herman wouldn't open fire while their teammates engage the Turtles in hand-to-hand, lessening their odds even further.

CyberCubed
08-24-2017, 01:44 PM
Isn't Mutagen Man also just a head now? I wonder if he'll regrow his body or change into something else.

ChosenOne
08-24-2017, 01:48 PM
Isn't Mutagen Man also just a head now? I wonder if he'll regrow his body or change into something else.

Yes, there's that, too. I completely forgot the latest change to the status quo when considering the Mutanimals' odds.

My guess is he will get a new containment suit. The rest of his organs must still be there, right? How else would he still be alive?

snake
08-24-2017, 01:54 PM
I'm a sucker for 4Kids' original ideas. The good ones, I mean... not the crap like Garbageman or Cody Jones. Cody O'Neil. Whatever the kid's name was.

Garbageman is the best. He's TMNTs version of "the obligatory C-List villain who only appears in events and group shots".

CyberCubed
08-24-2017, 02:05 PM
Of 2k3 villains we got Bishop, Hun and Ch'rell, and then Darius/Jammerhead/Dark Turtles. Most of the other 2k3 characters were from Mirage like Baxter, Karai, Triceratons, etc. so they're all in IDW already.

Really the only other characters I could see them using is Ultimate Ninja and Drako if we ever get a Battle Nexus arc. The others aren't really all that memorable or interesting to bring back.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-24-2017, 02:15 PM
Cody Jones. By the way, what you consider the good and bad ideas?

Well, to explain: I don't believe there is such a thing as a bad character, only bad writing.

Cody Jones could have been interesting, the 4Kids' take on Shadow Jones, but a cartoon show taking a hard right turn to sell more toys isn't going to put much more thought into it other than stereotypes, "audience appeal", and toys.

Garbageman could've been interesting, if he'd been toned down. A crazy guy who rules over the homeless, enslaving them for nefarious purposes? Sure, that could work... but not if you give him a bunch of robot technology that makes no sense and also treat him as a gimmick instead of something tragic or dangerous (like Baxter Stockman or Rat King).

So, disclaimer: these characters and situations COULD have worked but they sucked and were written to the lowest denominator OR were huge genre changes that alienated me.

4Kids Originals That Worked:
Hun
Bishop
Earth Protection Force
Ch'rell
Battle Nexus Tournament
Foot Mystics
Ultimate Ninja (EXCEPT for the stupid name)
Drako

4Kids Originals That Failed:
Garbageman
Nano
The Ninja Tribunal
The human acolytes
Tengu Shredder
All that dragon stuff
Fast Forward
Cody Jones
Serling
Jammerhead
Shokanobo or however you spell it (Cubed, of course, will know)
Viral
Back to the Sewers
Virtual Reality Turtles

There. That's off the top of my head.

neatoman
08-24-2017, 02:27 PM
The others aren't really all that memorable or interesting to bring back.

You could say the same thing about about Ace Duck and look what happened. You can literally bring back anything with good writing.

As for "memorable" or "interesting", I'd say most of them have enough potential even if the excecution wasn't always great.

Viral
Touch and Go
Inuwashi Gunjin
Chaplin
Dr. Malignus
Abigail Finn
Sh'Okanabo
Torbin Zixx
Nano
Ancient One
Traximus
Starlee Hambrath
Sydney
Ninja Tribunal
Mortu
Augustus O'Neil
Serling
Chrysalis
Silver Sentry


Are you honestly telling us none of these have potential for revival but Muckman, the literal walking pile of trash, does?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-24-2017, 02:32 PM
You could say the same thing about about Ace Duck and look what happened. You can literally bring back anything with good writing.

As for "memorable" or "interesting", I'd say most of them have enough potential even if the excecution wasn't always great.

Viral
Touch and Go
Inuwashi Gunjin
Chaplin
Dr. Malignus
Abigail Finn
Sh'Okanabo
Torbin Zixx
Nano
Ancient One
Traximus
Starlee Hambrath
Sydney
Ninja Tribunal
Mortu
Augustus O'Neil
Serling
Chrysalis
Silver Sentry


Are you honestly telling us none of these have potential for revival but Muckman, the literal walking pile of trash, does?

I see you and I think alike. Tons of potential! No bad characters, just bad writing.

And I loved Touch and Go. Way better than Carnage and Radical...

Technogeek29
08-24-2017, 02:49 PM
You could say the same thing about about Ace Duck and look what happened. You can literally bring back anything with good writing.

As for "memorable" or "interesting", I'd say most of them have enough potential even if the excecution wasn't always great.

Viral
Touch and Go
Inuwashi Gunjin
Chaplin
Dr. Malignus
Abigail Finn
Sh'Okanabo
Torbin Zixx
Nano
Ancient One
Traximus
Starlee Hambrath
Sydney
Ninja Tribunal
Mortu
Augustus O'Neil
Serling
Chrysalis
Silver Sentry


Are you honestly telling us none of these have potential for revival but Muckman, the literal walking pile of trash, does?

At the moment off my head these few have a lot of potential in being used again. I always felt Touch & Go were underused and like they were recurring villains for 2k3 Mike. If Chaplin comes again I'm unsure if I want him as a love interest for Karai again or not? On the one hand, Karai could have a daughter something she hasn't had since Mirage. On the other hand it just plain contrivance.

CyberCubed
08-24-2017, 03:34 PM
I liked a lot of the Fast Forward villains (except Triple Threat, he sucked), and they could easily work in any sci-fi setting. Torbin Zixx could have been a bounty hunter after the Turtles in Dimension X, and Sh'okonobo and Viral make good alien/sci-fi threats.

I mean we know the Dark Turtles will be in the upcoming Ghostbusters crossover, so it seems like they could make any concept work.

ChosenOne
08-24-2017, 03:37 PM
I liked a lot of the Fast Forward villains (except Triple Threat, he sucked), and they could easily work in any sci-fi setting. Torbin Zixx could have been a bounty hunter after the Turtles in Dimension X, and Sh'okonbo and Viral make good alien/sci-fi threats.

I mean we know the Dark Turtles will be in the upcoming Ghostbusters crossover, so it seems like they could make any concept work.

I have enough faith in IDW that I wouldn't be surprised if they bring in Venus and shortly after Peter Laird is quoted as saying "Eh, she's alright, I guess" :D

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-24-2017, 03:47 PM
I have enough faith in IDW that I wouldn't be surprised if they bring in Venus and shortly after Peter Laird is quoted as saying "Eh, she's alright, I guess" :D

IDW is the perfect engine for improving past TMNT concepts and characters.

I absolutely want to see IDW spin characters like Venus de Milo, Mona Lisa, or Cody Jones. They're the only ones who could do it.

ChosenOne
08-24-2017, 03:49 PM
Hell, for all we know, Venus could already be one of the Turtle Ghostbusters from another dimension! :o

MsMarvelDuckie
08-24-2017, 08:46 PM
Mona Lisa in IDW? YES PLEASE!!! :tsmile: And doth mine eyes decieve me? Dark Turtles? I was hoping someone might bring them in. Now all we need is Drako. I want a Battle Nexus arc.....

ProphetofGanja
08-24-2017, 09:05 PM
Hell, for all we know, Venus could already be one of the Turtle Ghostbusters from another dimension! :o

Hell, why not just make all the alternate dimension Ghostbuster Turtles female? It'd be like a genderbent take on both the Turtles and the Ghostbusters. It could be pulled off but some people would probably overreact

ChosenOne
08-24-2017, 09:08 PM
Hell, why not just make all the alternate dimension Ghostbuster Turtles female? It'd be like a genderbent take on both the Turtles and the Ghostbusters. It could be pulled off but some people would probably overreact

I thought about that myself when I posted about Venus being one of them, but couldn't quite figure out how to word it correctly and was pressed for time, so I dropped the idea.

Yeah, some folks would overreact but then again, if done on purpose as a riff or satire on both the notion of female Turtles and the all-female Ghostbusters reboot, no reason it couldn't turn out to be pure genius! :tsmile:

ProphetofGanja
08-24-2017, 09:17 PM
Pete is a non-factor, Hob is nothing to write home about in hand-to-hand but probably the most dangerous of the bunch due to sheer ruthlessness and tactics, Mondo isn't much of a fighter, Sally is just a "normal" mutant who shouldn't be much more dangerous than Karai (and Leo regularly one-shots Kara), Seymour I'm on the fence about but he wouldn't be anythng the Turtles haven't faced before... And so that leaves us with Ray and Hob as the only real tactical threats, and Herman as the only real physical threat. Funny thing about hermit crabs in a square "shell", though: flip them on their back and they're pretty much neutralized. I'm sure Donnie could figure out and arrange for that. Even funnier thing, his weapon of choice works great for flipping enemies over... Also consider the fact that Hob and Herman wouldn't open fire while their teammates engage the Turtles in hand-to-hand, lessening their odds even further.

Good point about Leo and Karai, but I think that pitting some of these mutants against one another is a bit of a rock-paper-scissors type scenario.

Like Bebop and Rocksteady have been portrayed as nigh unstoppable, against the Turtles and all the Mutanimals, but then we've seen Karai incapacitate them in the blink of an eye. And we've seen Karai be taken out by Leo in a few effortless, almost lazy-looking moves. Shredder has been portrayed as a nearly unbeatable opponent, even when it's four against one, but Krang defeated Shredder in one-on-one combat, and we've seen the Turtles work together to take down Krang.

So really all I'm saying is, the results of all these hypothetical fights are totally situational, which is as it should be. I like that no one character has a power level over 9000

ChosenOne
08-24-2017, 09:23 PM
Good point about Leo and Karai, but I think that pitting some of these mutants against one another is a bit of a rock-paper-scissors type scenario.

Like Bebop and Rocksteady have been portrayed as nigh unstoppable, against the Turtles and all the Mutanimals, but then we've seen Karai incapacitate them in the blink of an eye. And we've seen Karai be taken out by Leo in a few effortless, almost lazy-looking moves. Shredder has been portrayed as a nearly unbeatable opponent, even when it's four against one, but Krang defeated Shredder in one-on-one combat, and we've seen the Turtles work together to take down Krang.

So really all I'm saying is, the results of all these hypothetical fights are totally situational, which is as it should be. I like that no one character has a power level over 9000

Agreed. But I still give the Turtles the edge over the Mutanimals, at least 6 times our of 10. I hope I won't trigger anyone by saying this (one can't be too careful these days) but in a combat situation, each of the Turtles is worth two of the current characters in the Mutanimals roster.

At least in theory. Many things could happen to upset that, especially if the story called for it.

Regarding Bebop and Rocksteady, I've often thought back to that moment when Karai had them in a stalemate, and what I took away from it is: what they're vulnerable to is one thing, what they believe to be vulnerable to is quite another. We've been shown this repeatedly. Sure, she would've stabbed Rocksteady in the mouth or throat... The same dude who gets hacked, shot at, electrocuted, buried under a building, made to look like a porcupine from so many katanas sticking out of his back... I gotta wander if Karai would've made any real, lasting damage there.

Just be glad we never saw (so far?) Shredder fight the Psycho Safari Twins, that would've only muddled things even further!

ChosenOne
08-24-2017, 09:57 PM
Shredder has been portrayed as a nearly unbeatable opponent, even when it's four against one, but Krang defeated Shredder in one-on-one combat, and we've seen the Turtles work together to take down Krang.

And don't forget, Krang fights with a robotic body that is immune to fatigue and superficial damage. In a one-on-one fight, the advantage is on his side. No matter how skilled Shredder may be, eventually he will tire out and/or succumb to injuries and Krang won't, while the Turtles have the advantage of striking from four (or two or three, as the case may be, since they never fought Krang all together) different directions and thus being able to wear him down that much faster. On the other hand, it's precisely Shredder's skill against flesh-and-blood opponents that enables him to stand up to four of them at once and tip the scales in his favor. He's severely mismatched against Krang, is all.

CyberCubed
08-24-2017, 10:57 PM
So going back to the new Triceraton arc, it's safe to assume Bishop will be in it too, right? I hope we get to see his backstory revealed too, and what was up with the cyborg/robot face he had last time.

Utrommaniac
08-24-2017, 11:13 PM
Krang's biggest disadvantage in his suit is that frustration gets the better of him.

And monologuing. And pontificating. It's like he has a word of the day calendar, but he only remembers the interesting words when he's annoyed or really heated up in combat :P

MikeandRaph87
08-25-2017, 05:07 AM
So going back to the new Triceraton arc, it's safe to assume Bishop will be in it too, right? I hope we get to see his backstory revealed too, and what was up with the cyborg/robot face he had last time.

Bobby confirmed he would be in #76 before we knew it would feature thevaTricerston invasion of the Earth.

ChosenOne
08-25-2017, 05:18 AM
So going back to the new Triceraton arc, it's safe to assume Bishop will be in it too, right? I hope we get to see his backstory revealed too, and what was up with the cyborg/robot face he had last time.

Too soon for a team-up with the Turtles, maybe? Which is a shame. This arc would be the perfect opportunity for everyone - Turtles, Mutanimals, EPF, Foot, even Null and the Pantheon - to stand together and defend Earth. If only it didn't come at a time when hostility between the various factions is at its peak...

ProphetofGanja
08-25-2017, 07:53 AM
So going back to the new Triceraton arc, it's safe to assume Bishop will be in it too, right? I hope we get to see his backstory revealed too, and what was up with the cyborg/robot face he had last time.

Ditto. That's quite a big plot point, I'm really curious to see what Bishop's deal is.

Krang's biggest disadvantage in his suit is that frustration gets the better of him.

And monologuing. And pontificating. It's like he has a word of the day calendar, but he only remembers the interesting words when he's annoyed or really heated up in combat :P

Classic Krang #VillainProblems :lol:

Too soon for a team-up with the Turtles, maybe? Which is a shame. This arc would be the perfect opportunity for everyone - Turtles, Mutanimals, EPF, Foot, even Null and the Pantheon - to stand together and defend Earth. If only it didn't come at a time when hostility between the various factions is at its peak...

Oh yeah, way too soon. Bishop is too ruthless and cold at this point for any mutants to team-up with him, which honestly I'm kind of glad about. I don't want the series to get a point where the Turtles team up with every single one of their enemies at least once to take down a mutual enemy. Some enemies are too dangerous to trust, and Bishop seems like one of them. He would pull a move like the Turtles did and try to get the mutants and Triceratons to take each other out, like the Turtles did with Krang and Shredder.

ToTheNines
08-30-2017, 05:57 PM
Sneak peak:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIgpyrFVYAAZr6Q?format=jpg&name=large

Powder
08-30-2017, 06:33 PM
Did Dan draw the turtles wth giant shells & tiny hands last time? I don't recall those traits, not a fan of 'em (They look great otherwise, though). Very much looking forward to these.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-30-2017, 06:37 PM
Did Dan draw the turtles wth giant shells & tiny hands last time? I don't recall those traits, not a fan of 'em (They look great otherwise, though). Very much looking forward to these.

Yeah, exact same look as the first TMNT/Ghostbusters crossover. Kinduva blend of Fred Wolf and Bayturtles. Not my fave...

ProphetofGanja
08-30-2017, 08:13 PM
I think there also may be a little bit of weird foreshortening going on in those pics, I don't remember the hands being quite that small in the last crossover

Powder
08-30-2017, 08:18 PM
I noticed it on his latest covers too, though. Wasn't as drastic last time around.

Chaotix12345
09-01-2017, 11:55 AM
Not sure if anyone posted this yet, but the TMNT/GB 2 trade is up on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Ghostbusters/dp/1684051479/ref=pd_ybh_a_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=0NASR9Y2TRFM21P3DG79) with a slightly more detailed plot synopsis:

They crossed the streams! Turtles and scientists, working together... and they're back for more! The two pop-culture phenomenons join forces again in this sequel to the smash hit to fight a threat more extreme than anything either of them have ever faced.

An enemy from Master Splinter's past is back and hungry for revenge. To get it, he'll summon the most dangerous foe that the Turtles have ever encountered-the Collectors, shape-shifting demons that can pass through dimensions at will and cannot be stopped once they have been summoned to harvest a soul. To save themselves from the clutches of the Collectors, the Turtles team up with the Ghostbusters, the only people who have ever faced them and lived to tell the tale, in a battle that turns into a chase across dimensions both incredible and terrifying.

So the Dark Turtles' true identities are the Collectors, Ghostbusters villains. Nice little melding of the two worlds for a threat rather than just plucking another ghostly baddie from the Turtles' world.

Ninjinister
09-01-2017, 01:42 PM
"Master Splinter's past"

If which they mean a few months ago?

MikeandRaph87
09-01-2017, 02:54 PM
Not sure if anyone posted this yet, but the TMNT/GB 2 trade is up on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Ghostbusters/dp/1684051479/ref=pd_ybh_a_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=0NASR9Y2TRFM21P3DG79) with a slightly more detailed plot synopsis:

They crossed the streams! Turtles and scientists, working together... and they're back for more! The two pop-culture phenomenons join forces again in this sequel to the smash hit to fight a threat more extreme than anything either of them have ever faced.

An enemy from Master Splinter's past is back and hungry for revenge. To get it, he'll summon the most dangerous foe that the Turtles have ever encountered-the Collectors, shape-shifting demons that can pass through dimensions at will and cannot be stopped once they have been summoned to harvest a soul. To save themselves from the clutches of the Collectors, the Turtles team up with the Ghostbusters, the only people who have ever faced them and lived to tell the tale, in a battle that turns into a chase across dimensions both incredible and terrifying.

So the Dark Turtles' true identities are the Collectors, Ghostbusters villains. Nice little melding of the two worlds for a threat rather than just plucking another ghostly baddie from the Turtles' world.

Is this the character or is it another? I am not familiar with Ghostbusters outside of the two films.
http://ghostbusters.wikia.com/wiki/The_Collector

ToTheNines
09-01-2017, 03:07 PM
Is this the character or is it another? I am not familiar with Ghostbusters outside of the two films.
http://ghostbusters.wikia.com/wiki/The_Collector

It's these guys: http://ghostbusters.wikia.com/wiki/The_Collectors

Powder
09-01-2017, 03:41 PM
Color coded monstrous animals? No wonder they were chosen for a crossover with the TMNT. :tlol:

MikeandRaph87
09-01-2017, 03:53 PM
It's these guys: http://ghostbusters.wikia.com/wiki/The_Collectors

Ah, thanks.

They remind me of the entities of the different Corps from Green Lantern.

ToTheNines
09-01-2017, 06:40 PM
If anyone reads through the first crossover again, The Collectors are mentioned by Kylie in TMNT/GB #1.

neatoman
09-02-2017, 05:20 AM
"Master Splinter's past"

If which they mean a few months ago?

The past is the past, even the recent past.

ToTheNines
09-04-2017, 09:30 AM
https://instagram.com/p/BYn3S-ulvwg/

Utrommaniac
09-04-2017, 12:26 PM
There's the resemblance XD . It was a little hard to tell in the mini.

(And still, the outfit seems very Used Car Salesman-ly)

DestronMirage22
09-04-2017, 11:56 PM
https://instagram.com/p/BYn3S-ulvwg/

Wow, can Santolouco draw a great Stump or what? :o

ChosenOne
09-05-2017, 07:16 AM
Wow, can Santolouco draw a great Stump or what? :o

Wait, that's who that is?! :o I thought he'd gone into political cartoons or something. :lol:

Seriously though, Santolouco can draw a great anything!

ProphetofGanja
09-05-2017, 09:14 AM
Wait, that's who that is?! :o I thought he'd gone into political cartoons or something. :lol:

Seriously though, Santolouco can draw a great anything!

Yeah lmao that expression on Stump's face is taken directly from Trump's news coverage any given day

ToTheNines
09-05-2017, 05:08 PM
https://s.faketrumptweet.com/j787gsak_1q0jva_trtu30.png

ChosenOne
09-05-2017, 07:28 PM
Ironically enough, one can't help but feel that Stump would very much value the concept of luchadores (for obvious reasons, aka, ka-ching!), and by extension the culture and country they originate from. :lol:

CyberCubed
09-06-2017, 05:50 PM
I never realized the Stump to Groot connection till that image. With Guardians of the Galaxy being so mainstream now as opposed to the early 90's, I wonder if other casual fans will notice it.

ToTheNines
09-11-2017, 06:23 PM
https://instagram.com/p/BY5whzkFGlv/

Hakk-R.

Redeemer
09-11-2017, 08:36 PM
https://instagram.com/p/BY5whzkFGlv/

Hakk-R.

I can't believe how skilled he is as an artist. Its really amazing he hasn't been picked up by Marvel or DC :o

Utrommaniac
09-11-2017, 10:36 PM
He's shared quite a few Hakk-Rs.

It almost looks like this is still the Trial arch instead of the Invasion that's starting in November.

ProphetofGanja
09-11-2017, 10:58 PM
He's shared quite a few Hakk-Rs.

It almost looks like this is still the Trial arch instead of the Invasion that's starting in November.

Isn't it? I thought it was said that he was coming onboard to help out Cory Smith for #75 since it's double-sized.

I can't wait to see Ronda get her hands on this work

Mutant Ninja Anole
09-12-2017, 09:27 AM
I wonder if Stump has any relation to Macdonald Crump?

But yeah, the Stump/Sling relates to Trump and Don King's exploits in promoting boxing in Las Vegas in the 80s. Big fights in Trump Plaza and all that. Times change.